Nededeputat from Smolensk, or At the peak of bureaucratic impudence

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Questions of the moral character of representatives of the bureaucratic front are often discussed in the media. With the arrival in the information world of, say, a large Internet, the opportunity to analyze the words and actions of Russian officials at various levels has been taken to a new level. The fact that even a decade and a half ago could have gone unnoticed, zamylitsya in the daily bustle, bureaucratic red tape, today may become known to millions of people in just a few minutes of virtual broadcast. Thanks to the Internet, it became known about the work of one of the representatives of the Smolensk deputies corps, who allowed himself something for which an official not only needs to be deprived of all his ranks and positions, but also prosecuted. However, about everything in order.

Nededeputat from Smolensk, or At the peak of bureaucratic impudence


October 2012 of the year. Hero City Smolensk. Local lawmakers at the current meeting of the Smolensk city council, devoted to problems in the social sphere, discussed the topic of free travel in the city of war veterans and those categories of citizens who were equated to veterans. However, for some reason, there were no residents of Smolensk among the beneficiaries, who in childhood became prisoners of the Nazi concentration camps. Regional lawmakers began to discuss what need and juvenile prisoners of concentration camps to add to the list of beneficiaries in terms of their right to free travel. And while the deputies figured out how many such persons now live in Smolensk, and when Germany stopped paying compensation to the victims of Nazism in Russia, such a legislator as Andrei Ershov, who positioned himself as the ideological supporter of the United Russia party, put in his withering remark. Mr. Yershov was indignant at the fact that it was necessary to provide any benefits to the victims of Nazism, saying literally the following:
“What do we owe them?” What they did not finish off? "


This humiliating dignity of all, without exception, people who have experienced the agony of concentration camps, has caused laughter in the conference room. Apparently, one of the assembled deputies liked the words of Ershov that he personally did not owe the prisoners anything, and that the Nazis didn’t finish off the Russian children. But, thank God, there were those in the hall of the Smolensk city council and those who tried to reason with a truly brazen city official. Here is one of the quotes, which is the answer to Andrei Yershov and those who actually supported his idea with their laughter:
"It's not funny! We owe them that the state failed to ensure their happy childhood. They remained in the occupation. I am obliged to those who could not stop the fascists on the border.


However, this response was not perceived by the deputy Ershov. He expressed his point of view on this issue, in fact having trampled upon his own polished deputy's boot the very foundations of respectful attitude both to the older generation of Russians in general and to those citizens of the country in particular who have experienced all the horrors of Nazism.
After such statements, the deputy should have expected a fair punishment, which is based not only on judicial decisions, but on the moral component of his act. However, further developments show how perverted today are such concepts as morality and ethics, as well as bureaucratic responsibility for their words and actions.

The words of Ershov were heard by those former juvenile prisoners of German concentration camps, whom the deputy called “unfinished”. Two women (N. Khatutskaya and A. Podlesnaya) from among the former prisoners decided to sue the Smolensk deputy and one of the points of the claim indicated compensation for moral damage in the amount of 50 thousand rubles each. The industrial court of the hero-city of Smolensk decided that Mr. Yershov would not pull compensation for 50 thousand rubles to insulted old women, and awarded the deputy a payment of 10 thousand rubles each of the plaintiffs.

Then something happened that can be called a grimace of legality. Deputy Ershov expressed the words that he was misinterpreted, that he had something completely different in mind, and that he would not pay any compensation to anyone at all, and filed an appeal ... It would seem that the court had to reject the appeal without fail and add compensation to Ershov undisguised bureaucratic impudence. However, the Smolensk court not only did not add anything, but in addition also satisfied the appeal of Ershov. They say that a deputy should not really compensate anyone or anything ...

It turns out that the judge who issued the final verdict, in fact, directly agrees with the words of the deputy Ershov that “they were not finished off”, and that no one is obliged to the prisoners of the concentration camps ... If so, then the judge who made this decision together with the deputy Ershov, excuse me I want to see not in their soft armchairs, but in completely different places - in those places where the degree of those hardships and deprivations that children in Nazi camps were forced to endure is better.
It should be noted that one of the plaintiffs (N. Khatutskaya) did not live up to a humiliating court decision, and the second (A. Pododnaya, who survived the horrors of Auschwitz and lost her mother in the gas chambers of this death camp) after the news of the actual indulgence for MP Ershov had a heart attack.

History with the statement of the deputy Ershov and the acquittal judgment caused a wide response in Smolensk. After the words and actions of their colleague, United Russia’s deputies deleted Yershov from their ranks and suggested that they voluntarily resign their parliamentary powers. However, here Mr. Ershov decided that he was not obliged to anyone, and said that he was not going to hand over his deputy mandate, because he did not see any reason for this.

After all these Ershov forts, it remains to hope for the last chance of punishment for a presumptuous regional official, over whom neither his colleagues in the legislative department nor the representatives of the civil court were in power. This chance is criminal prosecution under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which declares responsibility for actions that are aimed at degrading the dignity of a person or a group of people belonging to a social environment that has been committed publicly.
The punishment for this article for a person who violated the law using his official position is as follows: a fine of up to 500 thousand rubles, or deprivation of the right to hold certain positions for up to 5 years, or compulsory work for up to 240 hours, or correctional work for a term from one year to 2's, or imprisonment for up to 5 years.

Let us hope that this time the court of Smolensk will take the right decision in relation to the deputy Ershov. For example, they will finally deprive of their posts and force them to redeem obscene words and actions with real work for the benefit of the city and its citizens: clearing snow in the yards of houses of former juvenile prisoners of concentration camps, scooping out city drain holes and watching a film about that in short breaks between work. than he - Mr. Ershov - is obliged to people who have eradicated the brown plague.
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  1. +11
    29 March 2013 11: 17
    Such freaks should be branded with a red-hot iron "Vyb ... ok" on their foreheads!
    1. +39
      29 March 2013 11: 20
      Quote: ..
      supporter of the party "United Russia". Mr. Ershov




      What party are such and supporters
      1. +28
        29 March 2013 11: 25
        Quote: Vadivak

        What party are such and supporters

        so everything sticks to power, and there are thousands of people like him around the country and many are sitting in armchairs. The only thing.
        1. +32
          29 March 2013 11: 30
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          so everything sticks to power


          One of the five militants liquidated on Thursday near Makhachkala in the village of Semender, turned out to be a prominent United Russia party.
          1. +11
            29 March 2013 11: 51
            Valery (wulf66) you do not read news? It’s not me who came up with the murdered United Russia party — the chairman of the district meeting of the Untsukul district of Dagestan, Magomedkhabib Magomedaliev, you as a former employee (I’m never sorry for the former) should be familiar with the formula of the merger of power and crime
            1. +16
              29 March 2013 17: 51
              Vadivak
              Where do you think United Russia came from? After all, they came running from other parties. There was another party - they would have run over there, and no matter where - even in the communists, even in the liberals. Careerists don't care. And no party would have given up on them - it's a resource ... so you don't have to say that something special is the same ... but about splicing - that's right, but splicing happened even during the collapse Union and thanks to the merits of the bulk of those (or the same) who are now torn under the slogans "Poo is not good and his party is no better" back to the pie ...
              1. +9
                29 March 2013 19: 03
                Quote: smile
                After all, they came running from other parties.


                Vladimir, I don’t want to offend anyone, but basically these are functionaries, members of the Communist Party of Gorbachev
                1. +12
                  29 March 2013 19: 23
                  Vadivak
                  Why be offended if this is true? The cadres of all parties — First, renegades of the CPSU, then all kinds of liberals — the right, the left — (they are again, like that), who went ahead in time, who supposedly communists broke with their totalitarian past .. then a new generation grew up, educated on pseudo-democratic values ​​.. . Where did Pu get new personnel, the training system itself? Yes, even if he were holy and infallible (and everyone understands that this is not so) - what the hell would he do instantly ... this is the inertia of millions of disoriented people who survived the loss of moral values, replaced by - I, I, Me- To me, and a miserable set of propaganda cliches, this is a mass of clans and groups imprisoned solely to defend their personal economic interests ... pah, mlyn, I start to talk about it - I am furious ... :)))) I do not say that we don’t have normal people in all parties .. I say that the composition of all these organizations is about the same .... and there is a worse edra ... :)))
                  1. mansur
                    +3
                    29 March 2013 20: 07
                    And still no way to get drunk
          2. Nesvet Nezar
            0
            29 March 2013 15: 53
            And what are the circumstances of his death? After all, nothing has been written about the circumstances of this assault. Was he firing from the assaults or was he tied up and assaulted precisely because he was a hostage, and why not negotiate with cattle? Journalists at our place. And I would wait with conclusions until circumstances become known ....
        2. +5
          29 March 2013 11: 45
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Only. What is smarter than that, they do not say what they think. And so are the same!
          They hope (and not without reason, judging by a court decision) that everything can be bought or crushed ... But if it doesn’t work out, dump money with a cordon ... No.
          1. +7
            29 March 2013 13: 37
            Quote: domokl
            They hope (and not without reason, judging by a court decision)

            Hello Sasha! What are you talking about?????? They are inviolable to us under the law, all covered themselves with crusts.
        3. +11
          29 March 2013 12: 10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          so everything sticks to power, and there are thousands of people like him around the country and many are sitting in armchairs. The only thing.

          I have long had a vague suspicion, something that the Nazis could not do with us, to complete our ? officials!
        4. +18
          29 March 2013 12: 12
          Underdeath from Smolensk

          I would say subhuman. That is, in appearance as a person like (arms, legs) and in content ...
          Vobschem arrogant arrogant life ... And then outraged. As if it was he who would pay for travel from his pocket. Although yes, theft.
          Anyway, well, such a trifle - travel to veterans, they also discuss.
          And this subhuman apparently got used to tearing a trifle in his pockets all his life and then got out to the deputies.
          "we are not 37th year" - I remember this phrase more and more often ...
        5. +12
          29 March 2013 12: 24
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          so everything sticks to power, and there are thousands of people like him around the country and many are sitting in armchairs. The only thing.

          Hello everyone! Hello Alexander! I myself am from Smolensk, I heard this news when I was in Voronezh (relatives in Voronezh) and thought the news about Smolensk by Fed. channels, only these: the Polish plane crashed, and the deputy is a tyrant ...! It's a shame that such people are in power. This deputy is no exception, can you imagine what will happen if all officials forget to turn off the microphone, we will learn so much "truth" about ourselves feel
          1. +9
            29 March 2013 13: 38
            Quote: evgenii67
            Can you imagine what will happen if all officials forget to turn off the microphone, we will learn so much "truth" about ourselves

            Hi Eugene! and so with many everything is clear, even turn it on, at least not turn it on.
          2. +4
            29 March 2013 18: 15
            Well, probably not "about myself", but about them ...
          3. PiP
            +7
            29 March 2013 19: 54
            Quote: evgenii67
            thought the news of Smolensk on the Fed. channels, only these: the Polish plane crashed, and the deputy tyrant ...!

            Don't worry, one of my grandfathers died near Smolensk. And this "bastard" is a finished PI8R. Smolensk -CITY HERO and that's it.
            Z.Y
            "I understood everything, Jacob: all newcomers to Russia will die near Smolensk."(c) "Formula of Love"
        6. Zhzhuk
          +10
          29 March 2013 15: 22
          Ershov "thank you", although he does not hide his nature, but how many assholes who speak correct speeches, but in fact, much worse than this scum
          1. Kamchadal
            +4
            29 March 2013 18: 20
            .... And this is all our power .... shame .........
          2. +8
            29 March 2013 18: 58
            Mr. Ershov, everyone understood you perfectly - you said what you wanted to say. It is useless to play around and dodge now - you have shown your bastard nature in all its "glory"! Please go out.
        7. +8
          29 March 2013 20: 26
          Zadolbala this edrosnya!
      2. +12
        29 March 2013 11: 43
        Quote: Vadivak
        What party are such and supporters
        Hello everyone! They are all supporters now .. But the most disgusting thing is that people vote for them ... And this is the paradox of the day ... It is clear that the administrative resource and other, but cattle, he not only became cattle now ... He he was. However, the deputy .. We then where are we looking? It's a shame just for us ...
      3. +32
        29 March 2013 12: 02
        Quote: Vadivak
        What party are such and supporters


        Alas, the CPSU also crawled a lot of shit out of career considerations, and millions of ideological communists of honest people were later deceived by the same shit that was transformed into democrats. since then, the proposal to join any party (no matter what, at least the Union of the Sword and the Oral) I have been associated with the proposal to join it. Russia doesn’t need any parties,
        and true democracy is possible only at the grassroots level. as we had rural communities or zemstvos. and all that is above is just an instrument of power of moneybags.
        1. +14
          29 March 2013 12: 10
          Quote: Ascetic
          Alas, the CPSU also crawled a lot of shit for career reasons,


          Hello stas. This shit and began to form the United Russia, wherever you throw or a former Komsomol member or a former communist, although no, not a communist - a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
          1. +3
            29 March 2013 13: 01
            Fedorov is here http://warfiles.ru/show-18846-bolshoe-intervyu-efedorov-oko-planety.html in simple words explains how the rebirth of United Russia happened, what they were like before and who they are now.
            And in general, a rather interesting interview.
          2. +3
            29 March 2013 15: 45
            Quote: Vadivak
            EP, wherever you throw or former Komsomolets or former communist

            And also Chernomyrdinsky shots from "Our Home Russia"
            Like it or not, the defendants are alone! Smoothly flow from one party of power to another!
            Now the BUCKET will die out, so they’ll come up with a new one! What would be at the trough, and steal, steal, steal ...
          3. +8
            29 March 2013 17: 27
            Quote: Vadivak
            wherever you throw or a former Komsomol member or a former communist, although no, not a communist - member of the Communist Party


            Once they gave us a deal
            And they sent to the port of Bugaz.
            The three of us saw
            We gathered a scar
            And in Bugaz they gave gas.

            Who are we?
            We are from Odessa:
            Illichivsk, Cher-Az-Morput.
            Lyokha is a welder,
            I'm a locksmith with him
            How can one not get gas?

            And we have a lot of days off
            For work on Sundays,
            Like, “Here for the best workers
            Our best solutions. ”

            And the port-point Bugaz is such:
            Sixty Kilometers
            He is from the company Ilyichevskaya -
            And he is marine, and the Dniester, -
            The beach is both a garden and grapes.

            And our third said, Lyakhov,
            All days off counting:
            - With you I - but at least for the chopping block!
            In fact, I'm a guy - a shirt!
            I'm absenteeism for absenteeism
            I will achieve everything. Or am I wrong?

            - How! - Lyokha and I yelled, -
            You are our leader near Odessa!
            And they sent you with us
            From KaPe eSeS itself,
            To run a party press!

            - Yes, the role of the party cannot be reduced, -
            Proudly our elder said, -
            - What are we here "bazaar-station"?
            You will not offend the party:
            A member with her - he is a member,
            I’m calling to Illichivsk, - you’ll see,
            We will count the days off here.

            And even though it’s awkward for them,
            We will be extended business trips.

            We walked without insurance
            And we woke up - in the mentovik,
            The engineer woke us:
            C-near Odessa rolled.

            He is for our behavior
            Promised us zeroing
            Premium for the quarter.
            And drove home, jackal, -
            And truancy rolled up.

            What is the third?
            Third?
            Lyakhov?
            He did not fall under the press.
            We walked godlessly
            He - legally walked.

            Because a member is a member:
            He is a party gentleman.

            Odessa, Ilyichevsk, "Cherazmorput", the wall newspaper of the trade union organization
            "Sea Traveler" - printed with bills about the party in October 1965;
            this edition is 11.08.2010/XNUMX/XNUMX.)
          4. yak69
            +8
            29 March 2013 22: 58
            Quote: Vadivak
            or a former Komsomolets or a former communist,

            Dear forum users! The word is a powerful force. I beg you not to call the Komsomol and Communists clinging to the party (CPSU) for selfish motives. These are werewolves, traitors! They climbed into the party only out of a desire for power and privileges. And someone penetrated with the most criminal purpose, collapse. These are not Komsomol members and communists, these are TRAITORS.
            Otherwise, we will discredit the very idea of ​​communism as an ideology of positive development and those who, giving their lives for the benefit of a great country, considered the title of communist-Leninist to be the most honorable.
            After all, we do not call an officer and soldier the one who cowardly escaped from the battlefield or became a traitor, or spies.
            In my opinion this is not correct.
            1. wax
              +2
              30 March 2013 14: 44
              Careerists stick to any power and party in power. Over the past 20 years, everyone has seen this more than once. In February 1917, there were only 24 thousand Bolsheviks. Then the number began to grow rapidly. You know that terrible purges were carried out so as not to erode the party. After the death of Stalin, they began to turn the party into the so-called nation-wide. The purges have taken place. The overwhelming majority of members of the CPSU could occupy leading positions in the national economy. Naturally, as a result, she lost credibility. By the EBNovsky coup in the CPSU, there were more than 28 million members, i.e. more than a thousand times bigger than February 1917. So what? The USSR was put to pieces without a single shot for a penny. Adherents to the party quickly clung to the wealth of the country.
      4. +8
        29 March 2013 12: 55
        Dismiss with a ban to hold public office and engage in public activities.

        And the legislators should develop a bill, according to which it will be possible to classify and hold officials and public figures accountable for such "crimes against morality."

        ... a rare bastard!
        1. Grishka100watt
          +3
          29 March 2013 14: 30
          As for Fedorov I will support, watch his video (there are a lot of them), everything falls into place!
      5. +5
        29 March 2013 15: 40
        Quote: Vadivak
        artia such and supporters

        You can’t say more precisely! These nonhumans also enter their party in order to steal with impunity and to be beyond jurisdiction.
        The United Russia party was created for the well-being of its members, not to improve the well-being of the country!
        1. 0
          29 March 2013 21: 06
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          The United Russia party was created for the well-being of its members, not to improve the well-being of the country!
          -Yeah, someone rolled a minus. Someone really pricks his eyes. Likely on the site VEDROrasy dug in!
          Be vigilant comrades!
          1. +2
            30 March 2013 00: 02
            AlNikolaich
            Besides someone else, I also minusanul. Briefly explain:
            What do you think, if now to create and bring to power the best party of all time, people will not go there? And where will all the careerists go? Will resolve? Come to power any of the existing parties, then all the rubbish from the bucket will instantly rush there. Moreover, m other party members the composition is no better ... and in some places worse ..
            And minusanul for the loss of memory - you forgot, under what slogans fell the union and the CPSU paraffin .. and how it all ended .... do not you think that everything is repeated? And who benefits? It's time to grow up and not scatter loud slogans .. sorry ...
      6. +1
        29 March 2013 20: 56
        and what supporters such and such a party!
      7. +3
        29 March 2013 22: 14
        Quote: Vadivak
        What party are such and supporters

        Which party is this? it's like a fashion trend! who is not in the topic that by the cash desk !!!
        Look a little bit back .......
      8. -3
        29 March 2013 23: 08
        I’ll tell you so today, Russians completely lack self-esteem, they just have to live on the animal and eat everything, and if I’m wrong then it should be dead tomorrow and then I’ll apologize because the same thing happened in Chechnya while we cut our neighbors and mocked and thought they won’t come to me, I will live, and so 300 people were cut to the root
  2. +22
    29 March 2013 11: 19
    “What do we owe them?” What they did not finish off? "
    A person who says this does not have the right to call himself Russian at all. I won’t be surprised if I find out that he is celebrating Hitler’s birthday. I don’t want to talk about such a thing. Ugh right in his photo.
    1. +5
      29 March 2013 12: 12
      A person who says this does not have the right to call himself Russian at all.
      His place is not in the deputy corps, but somewhere in the logging area, which remained after the captured fascists. So that he would work there with his hands and finish what the predecessors did not have time to do there. That is why the other deputies had to vote for this, and not answer the dead man.
    2. +8
      29 March 2013 12: 15
      And we are still sinning in the Baltic states. It’s over there, the Nazis in power ...

      What sort of nonsense with avatars and a personal account. Is it like that for everyone?
      1. +6
        29 March 2013 12: 29
        Quote: klimpopov
        What sort of nonsense with avatars and a personal account. Is it like that for everyone?


        My picture is not loading, probably the repair work is going on
    3. +2
      29 March 2013 17: 42
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      “What do we owe them?” What they did not finish off? "
      A person who says this does not have the right to call himself Russian at all. I won’t be surprised if I find out that he is celebrating Hitler’s birthday. I don’t want to talk about such a thing. Ugh right in his photo.

      I think it is worthwhile in this case to initiate a civil lawsuit against the deputy and the judge who acquitted the deputy, it is not difficult to come up with the wording, and preferably hundreds of claims for various reasons from different people and groups of citizens.
      Let them torment, since you cannot kick with your feet.
  3. +5
    29 March 2013 11: 19
    Some people perceive power as impunity and permissiveness ... unfortunately.
  4. +18
    29 March 2013 11: 21
    Time of troubles - the government protects scum, after such a court decision, all the speeches of the GDP about the respect for veterans look like a clean window dress, unfortunately ... hi
    1. Vrungel78
      +6
      29 March 2013 12: 01
      I believe that this is not window dressing if the GDP personally asks for this scum and contributes to its punishment.
  5. +7
    29 March 2013 11: 22
    But the earth bears on itself ...... in, 3,14 ..... in. For him and people like him, he doesn’t need a prison, but to rebuild a concentration camp.
    1. +1
      29 March 2013 11: 33
      and cut along with relatives! then we must finish them off!
  6. avt
    +3
    29 March 2013 11: 24
    Author good ! Kozlov must be pressed drop by drop if it doesn’t work right away, they are stuck, the scent of cats lost their scent.
  7. +18
    29 March 2013 11: 26
    quote- "What do we owe them?" What didn’t they finish? ”

    only a fascist can reason unambiguously and he does not have the right to be a citizen of Russia .. am IMHO
    1. +4
      29 March 2013 20: 52
      Quote: Apollon
      only a fascist can reason unambiguously

      That’s all parliamentary immunity and crap, okay! And what not in any faction there was a couple — three of the same untouchable who would bring this scum to the garbage and hurt food? am not in edra thing oh not in edra recourse
  8. +2
    29 March 2013 11: 26
    Shoot these and others like him!
    1. PiP
      +2
      29 March 2013 11: 34
      Quote: Seaman
      Shoot these and others like him!

      Great honor. Let it disappear in uranium mines.
    2. +2
      29 March 2013 18: 33
      Ice ax for ..... t! am angry
  9. +4
    29 March 2013 11: 27
    This humanoid would arrange an "excursion" to a Nazi concentration camp with full immersion in those realities! A year old for four. For this creature to experience everything on its own skin! Only when his beloved skin is painful, cold and hungry, then this creature can understand something.
    1. +3
      29 March 2013 17: 44
      Quote: Kahlan Amnell
      then this creature might understand something.


      No, I do not understand, snickering.
      1. +2
        29 March 2013 18: 43
        I support. He will never understand. Yes, this entity in human form, spun off from Satan and sent him to Earth to do obscene things, finding himself where those unfortunate prisoners of concentration camps have been, will die in writhing in a few days - for he cannot imagine life without a cozy heated toilet, coffee with donuts, and "secretary" and a comfortable company car.
        Shoot in batches, publicly. And it’s better to apply everything that was experienced by those to whom he and his ilk owed too much. angry
  10. PiP
    +4
    29 March 2013 11: 30
    According to the logic of this "comrade" (Ershova), the state does not owe any of its citizens. For example, children caught in the Chernobyl accident zone are also considered "not finished off"? Residents of besieged Leningrad are also not worthy of benefits? One word - ZAS8ANETS.
  11. +3
    29 March 2013 11: 33
    People! Is there anyone from Smolensk? Though to pierce the wheels of the car in this reptile, or paint with what! It’s a pity you can’t fill the face - the jurisdiction ...
  12. +11
    29 March 2013 11: 33
    This is exactly the case when it is worth asking "And the judges - who? "Something often our courts began to defend, and not condemn criminals.
    1. +3
      29 March 2013 17: 45
      Quote: Genur
      Something often our courts began to defend rather than condemn criminals.


      And you think who goes to the judges? a normal person has nothing to do there.
  13. +3
    29 March 2013 11: 34
    This is a subhuman. How does the Russian land carry such scum?
    1. +9
      29 March 2013 12: 08
      Quote: zao74
      This is a subhuman. How does the Russian land carry such scum?


      He’s not Russian, they all reincarnated there as gentlemen, the highest race of officials heartily have fun mocking the poor and wretched when they decide issues such as disability pensions or benefits for caring for a disabled child,
    2. +2
      29 March 2013 21: 35
      As the unforgettable William Shakespeare said, “hell is empty, all the demons are already here” ...
      Yes, it’s time to deal with such deputies! Moreover, the full program! Is this not the 5 column? And how will the people trust the authorities if they see such deputies?
  14. Revenge
    +2
    29 March 2013 11: 38
    Check for mental health, the faster the better for society!
    1. +4
      29 March 2013 13: 42
      Not much did the COURT recognize his words RIGHT ?!
      Do you think the doctors will do otherwise?
  15. +2
    29 March 2013 11: 40
    While the deputies and officials will live outside the law, while the presence of crusts of any structure is the armor of the Law, this will be so ... The authorities are now trying to do something, but the tumor has grown so much that the whole body needs to be changed probably ...
    1. +1
      29 March 2013 19: 14
      When therapy is powerless, surgery comes to the rescue. But it seems to me that in this case, and surgery is powerless ...
  16. +3
    29 March 2013 11: 44
    with such bureaucrats we are more and more like Byzantium of the late era! And GDP before37 doesn’t see FOG THERE! And this lamb-eyed lad would now go to Dr. DEATH for experiments! An excellent wallet would then come out of it, even if it is silent!
  17. +1
    29 March 2013 11: 47
    In this country, power and bureaucrats do anything, because it is above the law. what else to expect from a corrupt government?
  18. +4
    29 March 2013 11: 49
    Quote: Kahlan Amnell
    This humanoid would arrange an "excursion" to a Nazi concentration camp with full immersion in those realities! A year old for four. For this creature to experience everything on its own skin! Only when his beloved skin is painful, cold and hungry, then this creature can understand something.


    This body has already chosen which side of the spine it would like to stand in the proposed situation. Probably he even mentally tried on the Nazi form.

    We here and there periodically discuss that children need to talk more about the history of our country, including the Second World War. And if itThe one pictured has his children, what does he tell them?
    1. +4
      29 March 2013 18: 49
      Aleks45
      And if this one pictured has his children, then what does he tell them?


      That Uncle Joe oppressed and oppressed him and their ancestors in every possible way, and that only the incredible efforts of Western democrats destroyed the Evil Empire, and therefore - you, my children - should continue the "holy" work of combating "false values" and shortcomings of the sinister Soviet era. .. Mmma ... He felt sick himself ... sad
  19. Drosselmeyer
    +2
    29 March 2013 11: 53
    Yes, he wanted to spit on everyone. And after all, nothing will happen to him.
    These "gentlemen" have long kept the people for working cattle.
  20. +3
    29 March 2013 12: 04
    The most striking thing in this case is that it seems that Ershov himself really does not understand that he said something terrible!
  21. +6
    29 March 2013 12: 06
    Indeed, these bastards are completely insolent! And he doesn’t feel any shame! And I suppose he sleeps soundly, sniffing with his honest nostrils!
    They would give so talkative for prevention at least 2 months of strict regimen, would lively apologize for their nonsense, and bow at the feet of people who have experienced a hundred times more terrible time !!!!
  22. +5
    29 March 2013 12: 15
    Where do such creatures come from? From which viper creeps creep out?
    And these creatures climb into the warmest places where you can grab and warm. I understand that it was and will be so. But I can’t understand how you scum live on this earth? How do you feel sick breathing, eating, drinking?
    Or your grandfathers do not lie in this land, did not spill sweat and blood for it?
  23. WWW.budanov
    +5
    29 March 2013 12: 21
    Genur, smart girl! Indeed, it is not the United Russia party that is to blame for this, but the entire system of "democracy" sewn by the hands of "amers" in the 90s, and under-trembling "by them ...
    Here I am a Cossack, BUT, I bow down to veterans - patriots from both the former Communist Party of the Soviet Union and Orthodox and Muslim communities! And these "geeks" are dashing echoes of education and "new education" of the 90s! I wonder how old this "under-deputy" is? YES, can he also be in the Communist Party?
  24. +1
    29 March 2013 12: 30
    To the scoundrel’s count! The purges in the authorities are simply necessary. Penetrated nits everywhere, it is necessary to calculate!
  25. +4
    29 March 2013 12: 34
    No, it's time to tie with these elections, according to party lists. stop
    1. +3
      29 March 2013 15: 52
      Quote: perepilka
      No, it's time to tie with these elections, according to party lists. stop

      That's right, and still limit the number of terms of deputy! Otherwise, a caste of professional "people's choices" has already appeared, who have been sitting in various councils of various levels for decades, improving their own well-being, and doing nothing for the country and voters!
  26. 120352
    +2
    29 March 2013 12: 46
    Stunning cynicism, rudeness and inhumanity of officials - "the talk of the town"! But IT represents the STATE! And this very state is not disgusted with the fact that its authority among citizens, thanks to such "Cicero", has long since fallen into a negative area? But this state does not realize that the attitude of the same citizens to the state, the assessment of this state depends on the attitude of citizens to such officials?
    Three options are possible here:
    1. The official expresses the position of the state, therefore he is still not dismissed with shame.
    2. The state is so stupid that it does not understand what its official representatives say.
    3. The state does not give a damn about what is happening in relations between officials, i.e. the state and the "population", because this state does not see citizens.
    Question. In which of the three cases does the state have a right to exist? Let me give you an answer: in none.
    1. WWW.budanov
      +1
      29 March 2013 13: 41
      I give one more answer (fourth) to the question
      120352 (1): In which of the three cases does the state have the right to exist? - Only and only "when he starts talking to his people DIRECTLY, and not through the" yellow "press and" hacker Internet ".
  27. +2
    29 March 2013 12: 46
    Quote: klimpopov
    And we are still sinning in the Baltic states. It’s over there, the Nazis in power ...

    What sort of nonsense with avatars and a personal account. Is it like that for everyone?

    The Nazis have nothing to do with it, he just feels sorry for the money that he can steal, and so he could say about veterans and heroes, but about anyone who can profit from it.
  28. +7
    29 March 2013 13: 03
    Well, they piled on poor Okunev, but no one spoke of a judge or a pike perch who went to meet Okunev. Probably having received decent salaries, they decided not to quarrel with those in power. Probably (it is necessary to check) this rotten fish has a patron in the Smolensk Regional Court. Maybe some crustacean that adores stew.
  29. +4
    29 March 2013 13: 04
    These are the cattle and climb into power ...
  30. +2
    29 March 2013 13: 07
    ruffs and Smolensk judges pedorasy
  31. +4
    29 March 2013 13: 09
    Brothers, that's just honestly, without cheating. After all, there is nothing surprising. Everyone knows the old Russian proverb "What is the pop, such is the arrival." But there are worse things, look how stupid the people are, they will still go to the polls, knowing that all those hungry for power are no different from each other.
    1. +2
      29 March 2013 18: 55
      Since the column "against all" was removed from the ballots, thereby depriving me of constitutionally expressing distrust of all the cattle-power, I myself do not go to elections and do not advise my neighbors. This time he barely dissuaded the tenants of our 9-story building from voting for Prokhor ...
      1. +3
        29 March 2013 21: 57
        Raphael! You're not right! It is NECESSARY to go to the polls and to spoil the bulletin! So that later they could not add the "necessary party" !!! We also removed the "against all" column! And how they cheat .... I had the opportunity to look "from the inside" (I was an observer).
        1. +1
          30 March 2013 00: 48
          Good method, I admit - not dop ... Next time I’ll surely spoil recourse
  32. +4
    29 March 2013 13: 23
    Bad man, this deputy! And his party and even more so - a rare guano! I am amazed at the ability of the leadership of this party to choose from among the masses of people such non-people who spit on people, spit on laws. They just gave them carte blanche and they use it! And what kind of judges are you talking about? The other day I read on the forum that the former minister Taburetkin is continuing the legal construction of his dacha in the Red Book forest. It is he who is so "afraid" of the future court! May there be no trial over the "untouchable"! How annoying it all is!
  33. +3
    29 March 2013 13: 29
    Oh, and powerful article 282 .... and the fiddling detective forgot that the avaricious pays two times, and the stupid one, it turns out five times more ....
  34. 0
    29 March 2013 13: 31
    read ... emotions remained with me. it’s just that the official becomes the master of his city, village, etc. but where does the special service, internal security, the ethics committee (or whatever) look like? is it really that easy to get away with it and what are 2 more years, this is an impudent agreement with a crime against humanity
  35. Old skeptic
    +5
    29 March 2013 13: 37
    And that there are no normal men in Smolensk to clearly explain to this scum how he is wrong? angry
    They should be taught, responsible for their words, wiped a couple of times with their faces on the asphalt, maybe the brain will turn on.

    "Mistakes should not be admitted, but washed off ........"
  36. Gagarin
    0
    29 March 2013 14: 00
    ! and I won’t have to work a second after such words! But the worst thing is that he will also make a career. How is this possible?
    1. 0
      29 March 2013 19: 58
      Must live .. a couple of minutes.
      1. 0
        30 March 2013 07: 07
        And someone believes that he should live and prosper, continuing violent legislative activity for the benefit of the people wassat
      2. wax
        0
        30 March 2013 15: 06
        Someone, putting a minus, did not take into account that two minutes is just the life time of the brain without access to oxygen.
  37. +8
    29 March 2013 14: 04
    The deputy who offended prisoners of concentration camps will appear before court

    The deputy of the Smolensk city council Andrei Ershov, who insulted former juvenile prisoners of concentration camps, will appear in court, said Natalya Khomutova, senior assistant to the head of the Investigative Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia for the Smolensk Region.
    “Ershov is accused of committing a crime under Part 1 Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation -“ Actions aimed at humiliating the dignity of a group of people on the grounds of belonging to any social group committed in public, ”she told ITAR-TASS.
    “According to the investigation, the deputy publicly made statements containing signs of humiliating the dignity of the former juvenile prisoners of fascist concentration camps as a social group,” Khomutova explained.
    Currently, the investigation of the criminal case is completed, with the approved indictment, it was sent to the court for consideration on the merits.
    http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/3/29/626559.html

    well now i think he will be given what he deserves am But here is one big BUT, namely, why on 1 the parts are held accountable immediately on the 2 part

    here is the disposition of the article
    Article 282. Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as the humiliation of human dignity

    1. Actions directed to incite hatred or enmity, as well as to humiliate the dignity of a person or a group of persons on grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to a social group, committed publicly or using funds mass information, -
    shall be punished with a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to two years, or by depriving them of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or by compulsory works for a term up to one hundred and eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or imprisonment for up to two years.
    2. The same acts committed:
    a) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use;
    b) a person using his / her official position;
    c) by an organized group, -
    shall be punished with a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to three years, or by depriving them of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to five years, or by compulsory works for a term from one hundred and twenty to two hundred and forty hours, or correctional labor for a period of one to two years, or imprisonment for up to five years.
    http://www.ukru.ru/code/10/282/


    under this article, part 2 of clause b must be involved to the fullest up to five years.
    1. 0
      29 March 2013 17: 41
      Yes, here exactly part 2 of paragraph "b" of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, but the court will not be able to re-qualify.
      1. 0
        29 March 2013 21: 17
        Eh, if only they were sentenced to two years of general regime on the first part. Then there will be a precedent, and the people will believe that at least some remnants of justice remain with us! And other such "cadres" will have information for thought !.
        By the way, he was never expelled from the EP party!
  38. +3
    29 March 2013 14: 24
    One of the main problems of modern Russia is the lack of the elite as such. Our officials, deputies, heads of administrations, the vast majority of big business are rather dirty scum without a homeland and a flag, generated by the era of collapse and recession, than the elite of society, leading this society to a brighter future.
  39. Horde
    -1
    29 March 2013 14: 28
    Nededeputat from Smolensk, or At the peak of bureaucratic impudence


    here is this bug-eyed? Yes, and he is not Russian, everything is probably clear from what kind of people he was elected.
  40. +2
    29 March 2013 14: 44
    Quote: Seaman
    Shoot these and others like him!

    I completely agree, such reptiles must be shot from a mortar, so that there is no wet place left.
  41. Fox
    +1
    29 March 2013 15: 00
    an attempt to attract this lifetime advertisement of condoms at 282, apart from a bitter smile, can cause nothing. This article "works" against Kvachkov and other patriots, but not against the "legislative" mrazota. Against them, only an aspen stake.
  42. patriot2
    +2
    29 March 2013 15: 16
    If this crime is left unpunished, then other "followers" of fascism will creep out and openly persecute participants in the Great Patriotic War.
    But most of all, the position of the judges on this issue is most surprising, does that mean the judge is corrupt or is he a fascist too? am
    1. +2
      29 March 2013 19: 05
      No, just dumb.
      For three years now, I’ve been monitoring civil proceedings or criminal cases, with periodic representation of the interests of the bank in court.
      The judiciary has completely degenerated. No, sometimes (very rarely!) Professionals are found, but the bulk are insignificants.
      The last time, a week ago, the judge turned down our lawsuit against a swindler who shod us for 150 lam, for a reason - don't laugh! - "mnogobukaff niasilil", literally! The lawsuit began to be considered only after I, with the help of a couple of editors, reduced a complex multi-story lawsuit to the visibility of multi-colored pictures and comics, plus a couple of graphs.
      It is not necessary to be a corrupt creature or a worthy heir to Hitler’s case in order to refuse people who have really suffered. Alas... hi
  43. +2
    29 March 2013 15: 17
    Let’s see how the upper echelons react to this. It is clear that nothing can be expected from the locals, there is mutual responsibility. Colleagues deputies washed their campaign ...
  44. tommy1984
    +3
    29 March 2013 15: 25
    However, the Smolensk court not only did not add anything, but also granted the appeal of Ershov. Like, the deputy really should not compensate anyone ...

    Just no words, what a disgusting thing! And is this judge still working?
    In Germany, for such "antics" the deputy would be thrown out of parliament and the judge would be deprived of office. Even if these subhumans spoke so about Russian prisoners of concentration camps.
    This is Russia, how so? If the state does not protect its citizens, then what to do next?
  45. Genoezec.
    +1
    29 March 2013 15: 31
    Maybe a stricter selection will help for those who want to stick to power?
  46. +1
    29 March 2013 15: 38
    Dalboyashchik and not a deputy! In short, he is Arschlecker.
  47. Nesvet Nezar
    +1
    29 March 2013 15: 49
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: ..
    supporter of the party "United Russia". Mr. Ershov




    What party are such and supporters


    in his photo is the deputy badge of a communist.
  48. +6
    29 March 2013 15: 55
    It would be nice to hear such news about this rabble!
    1. Zhzhuk
      0
      29 March 2013 18: 16
      Awesome picture, as they say everyone deserves it laughing
    2. +3
      29 March 2013 19: 18
      AlNikolaich, thanks for the visual material!
      I used it here for selfish purposes at work during the training of performers. I referred to your ownership in the course of the lecture ... fellow
      1. +1
        29 March 2013 21: 24
        Quote: Raphael_83
        I referred to your ownership in the course of the lecture ...

        Nah, this is my plagiarism! Or rather not mine wink On the demotivator ru in the public domain! laughing The main thing is good for the guys! good
    3. 0
      29 March 2013 19: 27
      Do not touch Ekaterina Andreev, you want to say something, say it to men !!!
  49. +1
    29 March 2013 16: 08
    A congress of the so-called "People's Front" is taking place in Rostov! This is a replacement for the crumpled PEDR!
  50. 0
    29 March 2013 16: 39
    It would be interesting to know the home address of Mr. Ershov. Personally, thank you for caring for the people.
  51. +2
    29 March 2013 17: 32
    "to be prosecuted" - Nope!
    I vote - SHOOT HIM!!!!
    1. 0
      29 March 2013 19: 57
      Much honor, see my post above hi
  52. +2
    29 March 2013 17: 55
    He is a natural product of a consumer society. People are degenerating spiritually. New generations do not develop love for their homeland. Everyone wants to settle in and grab more. And officials need to be checked every six months under a microscope. even use a polygraph.
  53. vovka
    0
    29 March 2013 17: 56
    Unfortunately, people like Ershov believe that state money is their personal money, which they will give to whoever
  54. 0
    29 March 2013 18: 40
    You can see from the photo!
  55. DuraLexSedLex.
    +2
    29 March 2013 19: 19
    Well, gentlemen, members of the forum raised a howl))))) He doesn’t hear you - take care of your nerve cells) You can judge such people as much as you like, but they are above us, well, at least for me to such career heights as a cancer crawling along the ground from Kaliningrad to Beijing, what about the prank, and * with him. He does what he wants, the people are not his decree, like the state, they have their own atmosphere there, and the law is not written to any of them, if you don’t understand this, it’s a pity. He can take a machine gun and shoot a manger, and not sit down... but he won’t pay the fine, and we, gentlemen, will continue to excrete feces on the forums! So from words to action... but who has depleted uranium yats?! Who will take up the license to shoot large and small ruminants? Wow... no one, so gentlemen of the forum, don’t be surprised at anything, or have you forgotten what country we live in!!!
    “It’s high from God, it’s far from the Tsar...”
  56. +3
    29 March 2013 19: 24
    "It's not funny! We owe it to them that the state was unable to provide them with a happy childhood. They remained under occupation. We owe it to them that they couldn’t stop the fascists at the border.”
    The word “We” is surprising; does at least one of the officials understand that he is a servant of the people, and not vice versa. Take responsibility for the Soviet government...
    1. DuraLexSedLex.
      +1
      29 March 2013 19: 39
      + but it’s not even funny anymore.
  57. cool.ya-nikola
    +2
    29 March 2013 19: 25
    About a non-deputy and a subhuman, everything is more or less clear! Scum! But I would also like to know more about the “judge”. Last name, first name, year of birth, length of service, and so on! In the end, the country must know its own scum "heroes"!... am
  58. +2
    29 March 2013 19: 59
    “Let’s hope that this time the Smolensk court will make the right decision regarding deputy Ershov.”

    Don't get your hopes up. Our court makes decisions of this kind only on recommendations from Moscow.
    And United Russia, like sacred cows in India, is avoided for fear of angering the capital’s authorities.
    In a word - puppets...
  59. Sinus cosinus
    +1
    29 March 2013 21: 42
    Previously, to get a party card. It was necessary to prove to society or the team their decency and patriotism to the ideas and principles embedded in Soviet society.
    Nowadays they recruit according to the principle: oratorical qualities, then financial status and the ability to lick ass.
    So it turns out that there are only scoundrels in power. And there are no selection or screening rules.
  60. SHOGUN
    +2
    30 March 2013 03: 09
    Ershov! Why did you minus the article?
  61. +3
    30 March 2013 05: 32
    Quote: SHOGUN
    Ershov! Why did you minus the article?

    Damn... Short, but definitely funny...

    Well, how else can he protect himself from the people’s anger?
    If they throw him, I hope, out of the nest with the feeding trough, then in revenge he will go to scratch people’s cars and break the wheels... belay
    And in the case of a nimble, they will sharpen their lasses already in the opposition camp, somewhere in the peripheral brigade of Udaltsov/Navalny and their “familiar” Georgian...

    Such dandruff has always been on Russia's shoulders... What can you do? Without dust soap on tar, there is no way to remove...
  62. avensis
    +1
    30 March 2013 07: 19
    - “What a disgusting face” (film Gentlemen of Fortune) smile
    I always wonder how such brutes become deputies, because some people vote for them!
  63. shtabs
    +1
    30 March 2013 07: 28
    Andrey Ershov, Smolensk (search in classmates) admire the people's choice
  64. +1
    30 March 2013 13: 11
    You are a bastard, Ershov! I’m an ordinary fascist bastard, I tell you this - the son of a Red Army major who reached Vienna!
  65. +2
    30 March 2013 13: 40
    But to the State Duma some woman from the communists, it’s not even worth remembering her last name, complained about the low salaries of deputies - they should raise them.
    Snickering
  66. wax
    0
    30 March 2013 14: 58
    [quote]... rare bastard! [quote]
    I absolutely agree with you. There may be no need to imprison him (let him feed himself), but fining him half a million on behalf of the Russian Federation would be convincing. But, to be honest, it’s unpleasant to breathe the same air with him, but this is not 37 (in this case, unfortunately).
  67. +1
    30 March 2013 15: 50
    ...here’s a fine of half a million on behalf of the Russian Federation

    Rope+bar of soap+aspen for the traitor!
  68. Yastreb
    +2
    30 March 2013 20: 43
    I consider parliamentary immunity in Russia to be criminal.
    The USSR collapsed, not least because after Stalin’s death, state security agencies were prohibited from carrying out operational investigative measures against party bosses without orders from above. hi

    The idiot who earns political capital by making statements in the spirit of Nazism should be beheaded am
  69. 0
    30 March 2013 22: 06
    This is not a person, a walking shell......they have money and power has completely clouded their brains......

    Quote: Yastreb
    “What do we owe them?” What they did not finish off? "


    If he doesn’t owe them anything, let him go to Israel or America; in Russia he’s clearly not in his nest
  70. 0
    31 March 2013 03: 19
    "Ideology (Greek ιδεολογία, from Greek ιδεα - prototype, idea; and λογος - word, mind, teaching) is a system of conceptually formulated views and ideas, expressing the interests of various social classes, groups, societies, in which people’s relationships are recognized and assessed to reality and to each other, and also the forms of domination and power existing in society are sanctioned, or their transformations are justified." Ideology is always present in society, and only Yeltsin officially recorded its complete absence in Russia. And therefore, Ershov is a product of this putrid transformation. His brains were completely transformed by the ideology of the golden calf and the type of relationship: CHW (man is a wolf to man). And United Russia became like Lavrenty Pavlovich: no person (in the party) - no problems. Okay - the party, but where does the "sovereign eye" look - the prosecutor's office, whose direct duty is to guard the law of the state?! It is worth paying attention to yourself: dumbing down and thoughtlessly voting for others like him leads to such excesses. Let’s not forget that society deserves the deputy (president) it elects. And, alas, from the entire Smolensk region they managed to choose Ershov and his giggling comrades - scum who mocked the memory of their fathers and grandfathers. Sad...
  71. bazillius
    0
    31 March 2013 10: 45
    Scum and scum always creep into power. You should not be shy about destroying such reptiles. The position of a deputy obliges him to answer literally for every word. And so it turns out: “Yes, I didn’t shit myself, I farted, and the fact that it stinks - well, that’s always the case.”
    1. +2
      31 March 2013 10: 56
      Quote: bazillius
      The position of a deputy obliges him to answer
      You will also say...
      That's not why they go there
  72. bazillius
    +1
    31 March 2013 10: 59
    Denis: You know, among them the right ones are also found, but rather as an exception confirming a bad rule.
    1. +1
      31 March 2013 12: 35
      Quote: bazillius
      To Denis: You know, among them the right ones are also found, but rather as an exception confirming a bad rule
      I would really like to believe in this. Only how is this possible, my colleagues will immediately devour me. Any road to power is the road of flexibility and compromise. Well, this is in tolerant language, but in normal language the road is lies and betrayal
  73. redwar6
    0
    31 March 2013 15: 40
    Quote: kris
    Zadolbala this edrosnya!

    And they didn’t lie about the Caucasus..
    And on the topic, I was boiling, I definitely didn’t expect such an attitude...
  74. +1
    31 March 2013 16: 16
    What a bitch. And the way the deputy corps behaved, they should have stood up and left the meeting until this type was removed from the deputies. And the party must react to such cases quickly and harshly. It is clear that all sorts of crap sticks to the party in power, but any party must be able to cleanse itself of it. By the way, the liberals from the democrats. This also applies to the opposition, you shouldn’t dress up in white clothes either, there’s plenty of D-ma in your ranks.
    1. +1
      April 1 2013 04: 53
      Quote: galan
      There are enough doctors in your ranks
      And where, in what ranks is he not?
      I haven’t eradicated everything in mine yet
      Not the government, not the opposition. Like in that movie:
      -Are you with the Reds or the Whites?
      -Me? Yes, I'm with my grandma
  75. 0
    31 March 2013 22: 41
    A special opinion is being formed about the authorities and about us, because of people like this. Maybe we really, animals, allow ourselves to be treated like this... Can we really do anything? Honestly, I’m not being crooked. They voted to preserve the union, they didn’t listen to us, they divided what they took from our great-grandfathers among themselves without asking us. What was built during the Soviet era is still not ours. We don't like something, but we cannot dictate our will. I have great respect for V.V. To Putin (but not to Medvedev), Nazarbayev BUT I don’t understand what’s happening, are they intentionally not noticing many things? How? Well, let them say, “Guys, we can’t cut out the entire tumor - it will always be measured!” It is necessary to pass a law on the special responsibility of civil servants. deputies right up to logging! There is no need to wish them down, they are striving for power to make not our lives better, but their own!
  76. +6
    April 1 2013 05: 43
    Rotten fascist evil spirits - we'll drive a bullet into the forehead,
    Let's put together a strong coffin with the scum of humanity!

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