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South Africa is interested in Russian fighters and helicopters

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South Africa became interested in the possibility of buying Russian Su-30 type fighters and helicopters for various purposes, the Kommersant newspaper reported, citing a source in the Russian delegation that arrived in the country. The number of fighters that South Africa can buy is not yet known, but if the planes are sold, a country after-sales service system can be organized.




According to a newspaper source, 26 March 2013 of the year in South Africa could be signed a contract for the supply of 60 helicopters for various purposes with the possibility of increasing the volume of purchases to one hundred units. The conclusion of the transaction was canceled because doubts arose regarding the financing of the transaction. In particular, the parties could not decide whether South Africa would be able to pay for the purchase on its own, or whether Russia would have to allocate an export credit for the purchase of helicopters.

Discussion of possible transactions was held within the framework of the BRICS summit (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa), which was attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov and head of the Rostec state corporation Sergey Chemezov. Having failed to sign a contract at the summit, the parties agreed to continue negotiations on the supply of military equipment later.

At present, a service center for servicing Russian helicopters is operating in South Africa. Its opening took place on 27 March 2013. This enterprise was created jointly by the Russian holding Russian Helicopters and the South African company Denel Aviation. He is engaged in servicing helicopters of the types Mi-8 / 17 and Ka-32. The fleet of such vehicles in operation in African countries is estimated at 600 units.
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  1. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 29 March 2013 10: 46
    +4
    BRICS is starting to bring real benefits.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 March 2013 11: 17
      +4
      The Yuarovtsev main fighter JAS.39 Gripen is immune to severe frosts and snowfalls, and capable of taking off from short runways and individual sections of freeways. Apparently the Swedes unscrewed the dough for them not by trifles .....
      1. Hey
        Hey 29 March 2013 17: 41
        0
        This aircraft has one significant drawback - it needs super clean fuel otherwise it does not want to fly.
    2. Road runer
      Road runer 29 March 2013 14: 09
      0
      From the economic union to the military is not far. Why not over time create a BRICS military as opposed to NAT ... what
  2. Russian
    Russian 29 March 2013 10: 49
    0
    After the recent events in Syria, Libya, everyone began to build up their Air Force, the conclusion is correct. Now the ball is ruled by aviation.
  3. ATATA
    ATATA 29 March 2013 10: 57
    11
    In South Africa, 30% of the Gripenovs from the cash fleet of the Air Force is not operated due to lack of money. What kind of cones will our buy?
    Again export credit?
    Will they return it?
    Maybe under such conditions it’s better to supply equipment to your army?
    1. avt
      avt 29 March 2013 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: ATATA
      Again export credit?
      Will they return it?

      Someone will get into the extraction of rare earth with this credit sauce. Platinum is easier to mine there than in Norilsk.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 29 March 2013 11: 12
        +2
        Quote: avt
        Platinum is easier to mine there than in Norilsk.

        And what is it still not divided there? Something is doubtful.
      2. MVS
        MVS 29 March 2013 11: 15
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Platinum is easier to mine there than in Norilsk.

        There is not only platinum. This is a very tidbit. Yes, and local can move. If they want to.
        http://www.mining-enc.ru/yu/yuzhno-afrikanskaya-respublika-yuar
    2. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 29 March 2013 11: 45
      0
      And they have only six trained pilots. Here, for any, even pilot training will be carried out on credit. And of course it will not be returned, it is not customary for African countries to repay loans.
  4. avt
    avt 29 March 2013 10: 59
    +3
    Yes, to health. A country with rich resources, Angola is nearby. But they don’t have order there, crazy guys, they won’t walk away from apartheid.
    1. VAF
      VAF 29 March 2013 12: 04
      +4
      Quote: avt
      A country with rich resources


      +! good And with a gorgeous geographical location! wink

      Quote: avt
      Angola nearby


      And what about Angola? belay There a long time ago the patrimony of Ukraine bully and if next .. just in case .. "two bast shoes on the map"

      And Namibia and Botswana ??? And in Namibia, Debirs rules the ball !!! wassat

      Quote: avt
      That's just they don’t have order there


      But there were times when streets with shampoos were washed and everything was .... outlined by white lines of restrictions ...... the order was .. amazing, in short ... heaven on earth crying
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 29 March 2013 14: 02
        +3
        the order was .. amazing, in short ... heaven on earth
        So that time was a good old apartheid.
        1. VAF
          VAF 29 March 2013 15: 21
          +2
          Quote: leon-iv
          So that time was a good old apartheid.


          So I am for what .. what time was ..... a fairy tale ... peace and grace. purity and culture .... oh ... as you recall +! drinks
  5. JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 March 2013 11: 00
    +3
    The title is a little incorrect, it’s right: South Africa wants freebies in exchange for friendship!
  6. Fregate
    Fregate 29 March 2013 11: 00
    +2
    Something like this all fell for our Su-30s, and yet we ourselves also need them in the coastal aviation of the Navy, will there be enough power for everyone?
    1. queen
      queen 29 March 2013 11: 07
      +1
      Quote: Fregate
      Will there be enough capacity at all?

      Not enough, it would be more logical to have two plants, one for export the other for our Air Force
      1. Fregate
        Fregate 29 March 2013 11: 11
        +1
        In-in and so for each technique.
    2. sergius60
      sergius60 29 March 2013 11: 50
      0
      Yes, our entire aviation industry in the 90s and further went to the back of export orders from China, India and others. Judging by how they began to pinch "effective managars", money for the development of production will not be "lost". Probably Abramovich and his team have finally figured out that when RUSSIA is behind their backs, for the darling "loot" there is not so much "glasses". bully
    3. VAF
      VAF 29 March 2013 12: 07
      +6
      Quote: Fregate
      Something like that all sunk into our Su-30


      1.Very good aircraft and gorgeous French avionics support.
      2. The cheapest aircraft for exporting fighters.
      3. The most favorable export credit conditions.
      1. queen
        queen 29 March 2013 12: 18
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        The most favorable export credit conditions.

        Sergey good afternoon. And can our MO buy on credit? laughing
        1. VAF
          VAF 29 March 2013 12: 44
          +5
          Quote: regin
          Or maybe our MO to buy on credit?


          Volodya, hello! But Nichrome’s day is not good .. after +17 today we have -10 ..... to the future harvest crying

          In confirmation ... a little .. "Friday flood" wassat



          And about loans for MO .... for me it is still ... "the secret of Polichenelle" bully

          After all, the loan is received by not ... a banana country, namely Rosoboron service, but under what ... "security" ???? wassat
          1. queen
            queen 29 March 2013 13: 13
            +1
            Quote: vaf
            But Nichrome’s day is not good .. after +17 today we have -10

            So we have the opposite ....
            Rosoboron service is the same mafia (legal).
            Quote: vaf
            but under what ... "security" ???

            Well, Poghosyan probably said laughing
            And I think it would be more reasonable to take a loan from the Moscow Region, it would be more rational to allocate funds, and not allocate all at once. But I’m probably mistaken ...
      2. Fregate
        Fregate 29 March 2013 12: 25
        0
        Yes, I’m not saying that it’s bad, I’m talking about whether there is enough capacity to ensure its own Air Force.
  7. BARKAS
    BARKAS 29 March 2013 11: 00
    +2
    African states are the main users of Russian helicopters, so I don’t see anything logical and sensational in this.
  8. queen
    queen 29 March 2013 11: 05
    0
    You can sell (credit), but only after we have provided our Air Force.
    1. sergius60
      sergius60 29 March 2013 11: 56
      0
      Dear, don't break your heart. SIX Thousand Big Greetings "polar fox" will be sent to anyone. Even in the 90s, there were no "liberators-civilizers" as it were. And now ... It's not even funny. angry
  9. patriot2
    patriot2 29 March 2013 11: 05
    +1
    And that diamonds and gold are no longer mined in South Africa? And there is such a thing as barter.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 29 March 2013 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: patriot2
      And that diamonds and gold are no longer mined in South Africa?

      They get it, but who said that this good has no master there?
  10. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 29 March 2013 11: 08
    +1
    Kind! Most likely they will do barter for gold) Judging by recent events, our people have become extremely attentive to issuing loans with a high share of risks of non-repayment. Is getting warm.
    1. luka095
      luka095 29 March 2013 11: 50
      0
      There is a likelihood of such a development - after all, Russia is actively buying gold in the world market. Perhaps they didn’t have time to settle the details for the visit ...
  11. queen
    queen 29 March 2013 11: 30
    +1
    A new modification of the SU-30MKYU is expected laughing
  12. King
    King 29 March 2013 11: 37
    0
    GDP just does not go anywhere. initially knows where the benefit can be stolen for
  13. valokordin
    valokordin 29 March 2013 11: 42
    +1
    It seems to me that South Africa also ripped off its aircraft industry. They also produced excellent fire support helicopters, but probably the black Madela killed the white aircraft manufacturers.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 29 March 2013 11: 55
      0
      The fighter is somewhat different from a helicopter. The helicopter is made and successfully sold.
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 29 March 2013 12: 40
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        The fighter is somewhat different from a helicopter. The helicopter is made and successfully sold.

        Thanks for the reminder, I thought that a helicopter is different from an airplane. that can fly backwards.
  14. sergius60
    sergius60 29 March 2013 12: 06
    +2
    Dear, have you looked at the geological map of South Africa for a long time? In the Drakensberg mountains it is dazzled by all sorts of "nischyakov" lol Not from the rogues, the BRICS organized itself. Perhaps this is payment for our "roof". For jokes with the organization of a common bank, you can get a kumpol. An alternative to the IMF, however, turns out. Like Israel and the Saudis choose technology. When there is no choice! tongue
    1. VAF
      VAF 29 March 2013 12: 47
      +3
      Quote: sergius60
      For jokes with the organization of a common bank, you can get a shot at the cumpole. An alternative to the IMF, however, is being obtained. Like Israel and the Saudis choose technology. When there’s no choice!


      There is so much MATURE in your THOUGHT! +! drinks
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 March 2013 13: 39
    +2
    Again for loans, which we then generously forgive? It is necessary, like amers, to take the land with a fee. Draw up lease agreements to pay for loans and build your military bases and / or security points.
  16. igor36
    igor36 29 March 2013 14: 05
    0
    for a country of 50 million people to have 26 more or less modern combat aircraft (Gripenov) .... So it is possible for Mr. Zuma to accidentally end up in Gaddafi's place ...
  17. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2013 15: 58
    0
    And who are they going to defend themselves against? Or are you planning to start a new mess with Angola? In general, of course let them buy, money is not superfluous, especially now