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Nikolay Starikov: our main task is the restoration of a torn Russian world

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Nikolay Starikov: our main task is the restoration of a torn Russian worldThe union state of Russia and Belarus is not built the first year. And what are the results? I would like to especially note the most important, in my opinion, achievement of the Union State. I get on the train Moscow - Brest and all the way I have a feeling that I travel in one country. But if I, for example, go to Ukraine, then I will check the documents and inspect things at the border, and the feeling of a single space will be broken. So, from the point of view of territoriality, we can say that there is a single state of Belarus and Russia.


The same can be said about defense, where we have a unified air defense system, and there is integration of armies. The same applies to politics, since both Russia and Belarus are the same, with a united front on virtually all foreign policy issues.

Of course, I would like the Union State of Russia and Belarus to grow in other states. The key point here is undoubtedly the entry into the Customs and Eurasian Unions of Ukraine. If this happens, then after a while you can raise the issue of expanding the Union State of Russia and Belarus. Now it is the case that there are several integration projects that move in parallel. And which of them will be the main, and which is secondary, it is now unknown. But as long as Ukraine’s position on integration has not been determined, while the Americans are actively slowing down this crucial process, there is no point in giving some new status to the Union State of Russia and Belarus.

It must be said quite frankly: our task is to restore the united Russian world, torn apart. The borders of the Russian world, the Russian civilization - they are wider than the borders of Russia and Belarus. The Russian world is in fact, with minor territorial changes, the entire post-Soviet space. Therefore, we must think about the restoration of this large whole, and not some small fragment of it. In this sense, the Union State of Russia and Belarus is not the end point of the movement, but a tool for building something more. Just as it seems to me, the Union State should be treated as well.

Today, there is still talk of creating a single currency of the Union State. The issue of money in Russia is the Central Bank, which is actually independent of the state. A bank that more obeys the International Monetary Fund and the US Federal Reserve. And what is the point of Belarus to switch to a single currency with Russia, in which there is such an emission situation? There is no meaning.

But, for example, a certain emission center called, say, the Central Bank of the Eurasian Union, which would issue a new Eurasian currency, would solve the issue of emissions without any upheavals. That is, the central banks of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan would be engaged in the issue of stamps, badges, or, say, match labels. Would organize the process of something or control something. But the issue of currency would be engaged in the supranational Central Bank of the Eurasian Union. That would be an important step. This is actually tantamount to declaring war on our geopolitical opponents. Therefore, it is meaningless to take such steps unnecessarily, without continuing a forward movement.

I will give this analogy. Imagine: a big offensive began at the front. It should end with the capture of some important points and positions. Instead, they took a little artillery, shot some, launched several minor attacks and retreated. They suffered losses and did not reach the goal. Here is the same thing here, with the single currency of the Union State. The process should start if there is an ultimate goal that can and should be achieved. But today the situation is such that without Ukraine such a goal is unattainable, and there is no point in starting artillery preparation.

Today, fears are expressed that after the creation of the Customs Union or as the Eurasian Economic Union develops, the Union State will either leave, like a Moor who has done his job, or dissolve in a larger project, like a piece of sugar in a glass of boiling water.

I repeat: The Union State is not a goal, but a tool. And if this tool is necessary for today's politics, then it is necessary to develop it. And even despite the emergence of new tools - the Customs and Eurasian Unions, I don’t think that it is necessary to take some steps to dismantle the Union State of Russia and Belarus. The construction of the Union State is a movement in the right direction, which, having reached a certain point, can stop here for the time being. Since the parallel movement begins in a more interesting format.

In general, it should be understood that the movement towards reunification of a people torn apart into a single whole is, without false pathos, a holy task. And here it is completely unimportant in what form it will be implemented, under what name this process will come to a logical end. Therefore, one should not be afraid of dissolving one or another project in another, more successful one. In essence, this is all - movement in one direction. What this new united powerful state of Russian civilization will be called is absolutely unimportant. It can be called Kievan Rus with its center in Kiev, maybe - the Eurasian Union with the center in another city, it can be called somehow with the center in Moscow - all this is unimportant, but its essence is important. And I want to say a big thank you to the presidents of Belarus and Kazakhstan - Lukashenko and Nazarbayev, who consistently defend the interests of integration and consistently move in this direction. As for Russia, of course, it is and should be the center that restores this destroyed unity. But it should be noted that Russia began to play this role only under Putin. Under Yeltsin, despite all the persuasions of Lukashenko and Nazarbayev, no integration “for some reason” was possible.

And one more question related to the Union State. This is a question of ideology on which this alliance should be based. In my opinion, this should be the ideology of common sense, the ideology of patriotism. Let's ask ourselves: do we, living in Russia, want, say, Belarus or Ukraine, to connect with Russia of Chubais, with Russia of those who are talking about new privatization, with Russia of corrupt officials and thieves, fleeing justice and living in London? Of course not. We want our brothers to be reunited with patriotic Russia, with a country that is looking to the future, which has been able to overcome the demographic hole and is beginning to slowly grow in population.

But in order to be attractive not only for our neighbors, but also for ourselves, we must conduct an internal cleansing of the scale that has accumulated in us since 1991. Therefore, Russia must first understand within itself. And only then the process of integration beyond our borders can go simply by leaps and bounds.
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  1. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 29 March 2013 10: 40
    15
    From scale (chubais, etc.) must be cleaned regardless of anything.
  2. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR 29 March 2013 10: 47
    +9
    The Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast ...
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 29 March 2013 11: 04
      +2
      Where are they going? Here is another need to resolve the issue. It is not clear yet.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 29 March 2013 11: 18
        +8
        Quote: fzr1000
        Where are they going? Here is another need to resolve the issue. It is not clear yet.


        Is it not you, Russia, that a brisk, irresistible trio, rushing? The road smokes smoke under you, the bridges rattle, everything lags behind and remains behind. The contemplator, struck by God's miracle, stopped: is this lightning cast from heaven? What does this terrifying movement mean? and what kind of unknown power is enclosed in these unknown horses of light? Oh, horses, horses, what kind of horses! Do whirls sit in your manes? Does your sensitive ear burn in every vein? Heard a familiar song from above, together and at once strained the copper breasts and, almost without touching the hooves of the earth, turned into one elongated line flying through the air, and all inspired by God rushes! .. Russia, where are you rushing? Give an answer. It does not give an answer. The bell is filled with a wonderful ringing; the air rumbles and becomes the wind; everything that is on the earth flies past, and, squinting, stand back and give it way to other nations and states.


        N.V. Gogol excerpt from the book “Dead Souls”

        And if you take into account the fact that the cunning swindler Chichikov (corrupt official) fell apart in the top three. then, alas, a direct analogy with today is visible.
        1. bask
          bask 29 March 2013 13: 54
          +8
          Ordinary people of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus at 1005 are ready to live in a single state.
          But this does not want, the "elite" of our countries.
          And the main enemy of Russia
          It is up to the politicians.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 16: 33
            +4
            Quote: bask
            And the main enemy of Russia

            "... Carthage must be destroyed ..."
            Bitch won't want .....
            Forgive me, Ukrainian brothers, but consent is a product of the interaction of both sides.
            1. imrek_ua
              imrek_ua 30 March 2013 06: 34
              0
              Our political forces are now working to break up the country and fill our pockets. I'm afraid it will end in the collapse of the country and civil war. It is unlikely that in this case we will end up in the Customs Union. One thing "consoles" - we will not get into the European Union either. Both amers play into the hands.
          2. Patriot.ru.
            Patriot.ru. 29 March 2013 21: 34
            0
            The main enemy of Russia, USA, but look what Ukrainians think
        2. Deniska999
          Deniska999 29 March 2013 16: 45
          +1
          They will give us the way, but not without a fight.
        3. Nick
          Nick 29 March 2013 19: 25
          0
          Quote: Ascetic
          in the top three the cunning swindler Chichikov (a corrupt official) fell apart.

          Which, in recent times, more and more worried. So, there is hope for a change of passenger ... wink
  3. domokl
    domokl 29 March 2013 10: 53
    +9
    Honestly, I didn’t understand what the author was calling for ... Show me the one who is against the unification of the Russians? Who is against the unification of the Slavs, if you want ... There are none, except probably ardent radical nationalists in all countries ....
    The Russian space as such cannot be created by order or presidential decree ... It must mature ... Russia has quite legitimate claims against Belarus, Belarus against Russia, Ukraine against Russia, Russia against Ukraine, etc.
    The past years have been largely spent on creating differences between us ... Maybe not on purpose, maybe the costs of restructuring states, but there are a lot of differences ...
    And now we must resolve these differences ... not to say ours is better, we will refuse yours, but to think how to unite ours and yours, or better
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 29 March 2013 11: 16
      +6
      Quote: domokl
      not to say ours is better, we will refuse yours, but to think how to unite ours and yours, or better

      The author also formulated that in order to unite by "leaps and bounds" Russia needs to be attractive. And that for this it is necessary to clean up the Chubais and London.

      In my opinion, for the unification of Russia you need to be attractive to the independent elites. Those. for Firtash, Kolomoisky, etc. And they are just the main opponents of reunion. There is another option, less real than with Chubais, if Ukraine cleans these firtashes and Kolomoisky. But Khmelnitsky for them is dumb for this.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 29 March 2013 14: 53
        +2
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        to unite by leaps and bounds, Russia needs to be attractive. And that for this it is necessary to clean up the Chubais and London.

        In principle, I agree with you.
        Having built an attractive society, with an attractive economic model, problems with integration will be resolved.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 29 March 2013 15: 15
          +1
          Quote: baltika-18
          Having built an attractive society, with an attractive economic model, problems with unification can be resolved.

          This is just the point of view of the author. Moreover, he speaks not so much about the economic model, but about the health of the system, the cleansing of corrupt officials and thieves, etc.

          I expressed only a practical consideration that if neighbors are ruled by the same corrupt officials and thieves, it is possible that they are even more unprincipled and immoral, then Russia's attractiveness for our peoples is not enough. This corruption-thieving elite has other interests, and they obviously do not coincide with the interests of the state and the people - a typical comprador bourgeoisie.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 29 March 2013 16: 29
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            if neighbors are ruled by the same corrupt officials and thieves, it is possible that they are even more unprincipled and immoral, then Russia's attractiveness for our peoples is not enough.

            I will not agree to bet all due respect. It is precisely the fact that Russia has enough of its own corruptionists and frightens off ordinary people as not funny. "We don't have enough of our own thieves, so also Russian thieves will sit on their necks." This is where our tops play. But if a big harvest took place in the Russian Federation, then the entire people would really be able to demand from the "rulers" decisive steps towards unification. The latter, not wanting to lose what they have, would have made concessions.
            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 29 March 2013 17: 38
              +1
              Quote: Egoza
              It is precisely the fact that in Russia there are enough of its corruption officials and it scares ordinary people out of the blue.

              Actually, the article under discussion is about this, that for the attractiveness of Russia, first of all, it is necessary to clean thieves and corrupt officials. My doubt is not that, but that it will not be enough.

              If in Ukraine thieves and corrupt officials are not cleaned out in the same way, then public influence on them will not be enough. Actually, even now Russia is relatively attractive: the standard of living is higher, and, I think, the level of corruption and nepotism is lower, and at least some kind of struggle is being waged against this. The more Russia will clean up the Chubais, the more your Chubais will be afraid of Russia. And the changing public opinion as a result of this is taken into account by the independent corrupt officials. They now have an answer to this, which in my opinion looks like this. Through Kolomoisky, the fascist "Svoboda" was promoted: they say, if not us, then such beasts will come instead of us that more than once they will cry for us with bitter tears, they say, there is no other alternative besides us.

              Ukraine will take steps towards it when your current state of affairs ceases to be preserved, thieves and corrupt officials plant themselves or, at least, get squeezed out of politics. To do this, you need a leader and the will of the leader.

              However, this is all rushing ahead. Russia needs to clean up Chubais no matter what Ukraine will think there and where to go.
              Yours faithfully,
              1. Genur
                Genur 29 March 2013 18: 54
                0
                It’s time for huge Russia take adopt useful things from small Belarus (Belarus) ... The main interest in Belarus now is shown by all sorts of Abramovichs, Millers, etc.
                It would be nice to "borrow" the experience of Belarus in matters of preserving and developing agriculture, preserving nature, not to mention maintaining elementary order in housing and communal services.
                Again, I bring a photo of the fat from Minsk. There is something to compare (with modern, St. Petersburg, for example) ... It's not about the amounts, but about the list ...
      2. edge
        edge 29 March 2013 15: 11
        0
        if an offshore + financial supranational structure serving interests is created within Russia, then all these guys will be here
      3. opkozak
        opkozak 29 March 2013 17: 49
        +5
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        if Ukraine cleans these firtashes and Kolomoisky.
        What are we talking about?
        Example. Ukraine has launched new biometric passports. AND...

        Reading ... "The State Migration Service of Ukraine promises to correct the error in the sample of the biometric passport, which was previously approved by the Cabinet of Ministers, where the name of the country in Arabic is written as" URKAINA ".

        "Measures are being taken to correct this error of translators and make appropriate changes to regulatory legal acts. The State Migration Service of Ukraine will ensure that this issue is resolved before the start of issuing and issuing new passports of a citizen of Ukraine, so that no passport with an error will be issued in Ukraine. ", - stated in the press service of the department.

        The Cabinet of Ministers approved the specified sample by resolution dated 13.03.2013 No. 185."
        What Cabinet and such orders ... The whole Cabinet must be cleaned up.
      4. imrek_ua
        imrek_ua 30 March 2013 06: 38
        0
        Avzhezh. Do you recognize the dzhe yog? :)
    2. edge
      edge 29 March 2013 15: 07
      +3
      according to the project of Stalin, after the 2nd World War the Red Empire was to be created within the borders of the Slavic states — this was the maximum program and we were one step away from its implementation ..........
  4. kvodrato
    kvodrato 29 March 2013 10: 56
    0
    Together we are not victorious
  5. 120352
    120352 29 March 2013 11: 06
    +5
    The single Russian world was destroyed during the First World War, because, according to our enemies, Russia is invincible, and its enemies dismembered it. Watch the film "Kill the Russian in yourself" here. Everything is said there very carefully and thoroughly. Ukraine was made of Little Russia precisely for the dismemberment of a united Russia. When I visit Ukraine, I often find supporters of unification among normal people, but politicians do not need this, otherwise they will lose their posts. Not our single world is important to them, but their own well-being, or rather, its illusion.
    Until we overcome this, create a unified Russian state, Russia will remain in jeopardy.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 29 March 2013 21: 37
      +1
      In the USSR, everyone was equal and Ukrainians in Kamchatka and Ukraine
  6. erased
    erased 29 March 2013 11: 08
    +1
    The idea is good, but implementation is problematic. Too many enemies are in power, and they are listening to overseas masters.
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 29 March 2013 14: 26
      +3
      And you don’t get out of the cave, then ANY task for you to turn into intolerable and global. Everyone in their place SHOULD strive to realize the idea of ​​uniting the Russian World.
  7. Kaa
    Kaa 29 March 2013 11: 11
    11
    Looking from Ukraine, I can say for sure. that the best agitating argument for those who doubt and even resist integration with Russia would be to restore order with the oligarchy, the lawlessness of officials, courts, tax authorities, police in Russia - because we have a surplus of this good too. If there was order in Russia, people would choose integration at least in order to really live in a legal, not a "conceptual" Union. The citizens of Russia have an advantage - a leader who is trusted (with reservations or completely) by more than 50% of the population, if he moves in this direction, he will be supported, we do not and is not expected.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 11: 53
      +6
      Looking back, I would like to ask (everyone), when, after the signing of the "Belovezhsky Pact", the "point of no return" was almost passed? Under the influence of what processes in one Slavic country a political leapfrog developed, while in another a stable political leader appeared, who, oh, how difficult it was, to communicate with neighboring Slavs, sometimes "inadequate", along the way "leading a showdown" with his own fifth column.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 29 March 2013 12: 20
        +2
        I personally do not think that the point of no return has been passed. There is still a very strong communication, first of all the population. That's when a generation is born whose generation does not have family ties with each other - then tryndets ...
        In another Slavic country, an adequate leader will surely come to power, it takes time ...
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 12: 32
          +5
          Quote: klimpopov

          I personally do not think that the point of no return has been passed

          I wrote almost.
          And again - WHAT, besides the availability of energy resources, influenced the dissimilarity of the development of the situation in countries with practically the same people?
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 29 March 2013 11: 53
      +4
      Here I am about the same. If we unite now, there will be a replacement in (in) Ukraine of the local ruling elites with Moscow, as happened by the way in the regions of the Russian Federation (my region is proof of this). This is extremely unprofitable for local elites, they will have to play according to Moscow rules.
      I absolutely agree with you, as soon as Russia puts an end to the devastation that happened in 90, it will immediately become attractive to many ... I put an ellipsis on purpose.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 12: 35
        +7
        Quote: klimpopov
        If you unite now there will be a substitution

        I do not understand something....
        And where in Belarus did the Moscow ruling elites replace the Belarusians?
        I’m probably naive ...
        But, as it seems to me, the conversation is about common interests, at least.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 29 March 2013 12: 55
          +1
          Really interests. And their personal ones.
          This is extremely unprofitable for local elites, they will have to play according to Moscow rules.

          и
          In another Slavic country, an adequate leader will surely come to power

          For which the interests of the country will be higher than personal.
          This is probably naive ...
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 13: 52
            11
            Thanks for the reply.
            And so I see the situation.
            A. Lukashenko wanted an alliance, and went to this. He walked, not considering it shameful to bend his back and break his "hat" in the Kremlin, not forgetting, at the same time, in the name of what he was doing it.
            Even on the beholder in the form of P. Borodin he agreed, for which, in the end, the Belarusian people say "Yes" to him at the next elections.
            "Old Man" was not too lazy to bargain for hydrocarbon preferences. And for a long time I started to ignore the image that was painted in Russia, at times, by the media. And no one in Belarus was imprisoned for fraud in trade deals and agreements with the Russian Federation.
            The leader of Belarusians conducts business with ANY Russian leader, both in the 90 and in the zero, as he does now.
            Already posted his comment that not only ethnic Belarusians, but also Russians began to seek the opportunity to move to permanent residence in Belarus.
            I'm not talking about "father" Lukashenko.
            More about desire to move towards both sides without SPECIAL RESERVATIONS.
            hi
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 29 March 2013 14: 21
              +4
              Already posted his comment that not only ethnic Belarusians, but also Russians began to seek the opportunity to move to permanent residence in Belarus.

              Uncle after retirement (after many years of service) chose Minsk as permanent residence. I go there myself, I like it very much, although not everything is clear there, but it cannot be otherwise.
              In the end, Belarus and Kazakhs from the moment of the collapse and were drawn to unification, even the Russian leaders did not want this, but still the process has moved forward.
              I agree with you on 100%. Thank you too for your questions.
  8. Circle
    Circle 29 March 2013 11: 15
    +4
    Quote article. And I want to say a huge thank you to the presidents of Belarus and Kazakhstan - Lukashenko and Nazarbayev, who have consistently upheld the interests of integration and are consistently moving in this direction ... Under Yeltsin, despite all the persuasions of Lukashenko and Nazarbayev, no integration "for some reason" failed.
    The entire history of the ex-Soviet space over the past 20 years is formulated extremely briefly.
  9. Predator-74
    Predator-74 29 March 2013 11: 19
    +2
    I absolutely agree that let's first sort it out inside the country, and then this process (unification) will become simply inevitable, but for now it is better to sit "evenly and not twitch."
  10. valokordin
    valokordin 29 March 2013 11: 22
    +4
    Quote: Kaa
    Looking from Ukraine, I can say for sure. that the best agitating argument for those who doubt and even resist integration with Russia would be to restore order with the oligarchy, the lawlessness of officials, courts, tax authorities, police in Russia - because we have a surplus of this good too. If there was order in Russia, people would choose integration at least in order to really live in a legal, not a "conceptual" Union.

    Wise Kaa, I agree with you that the interests of the inhabitants of Ukraine will unite with oligarchic Russia is not enough. If Russia was an example for Ukraine in the social sphere, if the inhabitants of Ukraine saw how power in Russia relates to the people in a good social sense. If they saw that the country's economy does not work for bourgeois, but for citizens, the desire for unification would be the strongest. And it turns out that Ukrainian oligarchs-robbers are robbing, Russian oligarchs will come-also robbing, where are the grammarians to go. And your Ukrainian gangsters will never agree to fall under the arm of my mother. So the union in the current situation is not worth remembering.
    1. opkozak
      opkozak 29 March 2013 18: 12
      +4
      Quote: valokordin
      And it turns out that Ukrainian oligarchs-robbers are robbing, Russian oligarchs will come-also robbing, where are the grammarians to go.

      Not only rob but also destroy everything that is possible.

      Until 2017, the Ukrainian army will be cut in half. This was stated by Igor Nikolaenko, Deputy Chief of the Main Directorate of Personnel of the General Staff. "Now the number of the armed forces is 193 thousand people. By 2017 it is planned to reduce it to 100 thousand," Nikolayenko explained. According to the newspaper "Kommersant-Ukraine", the reduction of the size of the army until 2017 is one of the provisions of the concept of reforming the armed forces. It is proposed to implement it through the gradual elimination of support structures. At the same time, the Ministry of Defense expects to increase the proportion of combat units and allocate more funds for the development of the army.
      Read more here: http://www.unian.ua/news/524158-ukrajinsku-armiyu-hochut-skorotiti-vdvichi.html
  11. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 29 March 2013 11: 53
    0
    Nikolai Starikov was mistaken a little, saying that the Russian World is a post-Soviet space. There are Russians on any continent of the Earth. And from here, Earth is the Russian World. Do not be shy about this, but you need to collect it by any methods.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 30 March 2013 06: 44
      0
      and the Russian world is only Russian, but also Belarusians and Ukrainians (except for Bandera)
  12. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 29 March 2013 11: 58
    0
    Well laid out on shelves. Thank.
  13. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 12: 00
    +7
    This article, and the article on "nationalism" were put up for discussion at the same time. An interesting coincidence: "We are discussing issues of integration and separatism at the same time."
    This is a type of sociological research of members of the forum?
    fellow
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 29 March 2013 12: 44
      +4
      fellow
      What happened?
      Where did the "national article" disappear to?
      Or is the temperature of the discussion "off scale"?
      fellow
  14. Semurg
    Semurg 29 March 2013 12: 22
    +1
    [quote = Kaa] Looking from Ukraine, I can say for sure. that the best agitating argument for those who doubt and even resist integration with Russia would be to restore order with the oligarchy, the lawlessness of officials, courts, tax authorities, police in Russia - because we have a surplus of this good too. If there was order in Russia, people would choose integration at least in order to really live in a legal, not a "conceptual" Union. The citizens of Russia have an advantage - a leader who is trusted (with reservations or completely) by more than 50% of the population, if he moves in this direction, he will be supported,
    At 100% in favor. And I also liked the thought of moving the capital, maybe in Western or Eastern Siberia, otherwise there is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road?
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 29 March 2013 12: 58
      +6
      I have long been calling for ....
      1. Let Russia become part of Ukraine .... what happens next - let's see, we will solve everything by numerical vote;
      (why not Belarus or Kazakhstan - well, we get along already ...)
      2. Move the capital of Russia to Novosibirsk. Or Krasnoyarsk. China will be ... nice .. surprised. Japan too.
      Then inside MKAD - normalizes.
      Etc.
      Dreams Dreams....
      The article put a plus. But she is rhetorical.
  15. gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 29 March 2013 12: 39
    +1
    As the experience of past associations shows, they occur during wars and hard times. I would like it differently, but hardly. In the event of a major war, there will be a choice: either together or disappear.
  16. knn54
    knn54 29 March 2013 13: 18
    +2
    Against those who want to "privachize" the Motherland. For those who want to create a mighty Power / Empire.
  17. Anti
    Anti 29 March 2013 13: 29
    -2
    It is necessary to grow-prepare leaders for subsequent installation in countries that are of interest to Russia. There are technologies, even the USA adopted them.
  18. Gladius
    Gladius 29 March 2013 14: 14
    11
    The Ukrainian elite wants to plunder and not be accountable to anyone. They are now "kings" - what they want, they do without looking back at someone. Therefore, the authorities are in no hurry to join the Customs Union. In general, it would be good if on Russian channels (after all, we show ORT, NTV, RTR, and many other Russian channels) they explained, showed the advantages and benefits that Ukraine's accession to the CU would bring, what prospects and new opportunities would open up. from such cooperation. After all, many people do not understand anything about this. And if an ordinary person can clearly explain, show examples, you look, he will understand and agree - why not join the CU, who is waiting for us in the EU and who needs us in the West? And when a person is informed and enlightened, it will be much more difficult to manipulate blindly.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 29 March 2013 16: 51
      +5
      Sergey, "Roman sword", hello.
      And let me ask you to prepare a script for a television show, well, in three to five clips so that it attracts the attention of the audience.
      Gossip - got it. Malakhov already in the studio gladiatorial battles are on. At Guzeeva - the old people are doing the front desk. In Pushkina, on the contrary, everyone runs away from each other.
      What are we people interested in the transfer of the benefits of the CU for Ukraine?
      The people who are still in Ukraine. But not ... standing on Leningradka, working on all sorts of Bridgebuilding, on Urengoy?
      What will we show?
      Naked thighs?
      Or how does our, Russian, village get weaker every year? How do tractor drivers go to Moscow to work as security guards?
      .....
      It was a state. There were ..thousands of connections, a lot of cooperations, connectedness, communion - to the GENERAL CASE.
      Shared. Awarded. Independence.
      Those. - unnecessary. Nobody, by and large - somersault yourself as you can.
      And now we - tyk, myk - what to do, what to do?
      Etc.
      Unite. Not looking for benefits !!!
      1. Gladius
        Gladius 29 March 2013 23: 00
        +1
        Hello, hello. Closer cooperation between Russia and Ukraine will be beneficial to both fraternal powers. It would be possible to create joint projects in many sectors: the military-industrial complex, the rocket and space industry (development and production of launch vehicles), aircraft, shipbuilding, agricultural machinery, etc. ... It is necessary to increase trade between the two countries. All of the above will only strengthen the economies of our countries.
        To explain what a vehicle is and what is the benefit, I think it is not necessary to create separate transmissions, although they would not be superfluous. It is enough, when raising the topic of TC in the news or in any program, briefly, by the way, to list the advantages and benefits of this form of interstate integration, so that people know "what it is and what it is eaten with," IMHO.
        A screenwriter will come out of me bad. drinks
  19. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2013 15: 46
    +1
    The question is very serious and is directly related to the survival of Russia ...
  20. Skavron
    Skavron 29 March 2013 21: 35
    -2
    oh and crafty article ...
  21. vvp901
    vvp901 29 March 2013 23: 30
    +1
    It is high time to think about how to live further in this world! The humiliation of the "Yeltsin" period in the past. Together to a strong and just union. Understanding is, now we need the will to do it all. Goodbyes to the liberators!
  22. darksoul
    darksoul 30 March 2013 22: 25
    0
    Quote: vvp901
    It's high time to think about how to live in this world! The humiliation of the "Yeltsin" period


    The Yeltsin period is very tenacious and right now it does not feel bad how unfortunate. It would be less

    And more of these officers who lie down on their grenade for their soldier

    But Major Sergei Solnechnikov died heroically, his blessed memory and the earth rest in peace, but people like Chubais feel very comfortable. The color of the nation is leaving, the scum remains ........... it is necessary to change the situation so that it is a turn and then Russia will live Mother
  23. darksoul
    darksoul 30 March 2013 22: 30
    0
    Quote: vvp901
    It's high time to think about how to live in this world! The humiliation of the "Yeltsin" period


    The Yeltsin period is very tenacious and right now it does not feel bad how unfortunate. Less would be like Chubais and other things ..... but


    And more of these officers who lie down on their grenade for their soldier

    But Major Sergei Solnechnikov died heroically, his blessed memory and the earth rest in peace, but people like Chubais feel very comfortable. The color of the nation is leaving, the scum remains ........... it is necessary to change the situation so that it is the other way around and then Mother Russia will heal