Japanese find: Chinese monopoly on rare earth metals will soon end?

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Japanese find: Chinese monopoly on rare earth metals will soon end?According to "The Tokyo Times", Japan discovered truly “astronomical” deposits of rare earth metals: the whole field, located, however, at a depth of about 5,8 km under the surface of the Pacific Ocean, not far from about. Minami-Torishima southeast of Tokyo. Rare elements of the periodic table were found, including dysprosium, which is used in high-tech manufacturing: the manufacture of smartphones, hard drives, etc. at least 200 years.

Comrade Kato continued: “When the researchers returned and gave me the data, I decided that they must have made a mistake: the numbers seemed incredible to me. Nevertheless, this is a fact: the contents of only one drilling vessel can provide Japan with 60 percent of annual demand. ”

A newspaper observer notes that the discovery could be cause for concern for China: after all, Beijing is trying to become the world's leading supplier of rare earth metals. At present, China claims that it owns less than one-third of the global reserves of such metals, despite the implementation of more than 90% of world supply.

Valid: in recent (from 12 March) National Intelligence Report China’s monopoly on rare earth elements (REE, rare earth elements) was highlighted as one of the problems. After all, they are the basis for civil and military equipment of the 21st century, including the development of "green" technologies and advanced defense systems. As the Director of National Intelligence, James R. Klapper, believes, China holds a clear monopoly on the global supply of REE (approximately 95 percent). In the near future, China will also continue to dominate the production of the rarest and most expensive REE (“heavy”) products, which are important in the production of defense systems. It should be noted that in connection with the Japanese discovery, James R. Klapper can breathe more freely.

Professor Yasuhiro Kato clarifiesthat deposits of rare-earth metals found at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean are more than a hundred times greater than the volume of all explored rare-earth elements on Earth. He also said that exploration will continue for about two years, and then production will begin.

Stock are located at a depth from 2 to 4 kilometers from the surface of the ocean floor.

Tyler Falk ("Smart Planet"), referring to France-Press, cites reports by Japanese researchers indicating that the concentration of the deposit is 20-30 times higher than in Chinese mines. Grant Branner (Extreme Tech) writes that the deposit of rare earth metals contains approximately 6,8 million tons of ore. Currently, the Japanese are searching for an economical method of extraction. Despite the fact that the real results of this discovery will manifest themselves only a few years later, the very "threat" of Japan to become the leader of the REE market will fully allow China to be kept in check. If the Japanese succeed, the export of rare earth metals from China will decline significantly in the coming years. “We don't even need to mine intensively,” says Professor Kato. “All we need is to extract enough to make China lower its prices.”

A revolution is coming on the REE market. This opinion is shared by Valeriy Kistanov, head of the Center for Japanese Studies at the Institute of the Far East "Voice of Russia" following:

“This event is extremely important, maybe even of epochal significance. Japan at 100 percent depends on the import of these metals. They are used in the automotive and electronics industries. These are the two whales that hold the Japanese economy.

Japan learned a bitter lesson from the 2010 events of the year when, due to aggravation of relations with China because of the Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu), China stopped exporting rare earth metals to Japan, being practically a monopoly supplier of this raw material. ”


As a result, China will soon lose its monopoly position in the REE market. At least, because of the appearance of an agile competitor, the Chinese will change the pricing policy.

As Ambrose recalls Evans-Pritchard ("Midas Letter"), in 2009, Beijing restricted global exports of this raw material, which led to legal complaints to the WTO by the United States and the European Union. In response to the claims, China explained that measures had been taken because of the fight against smuggling and environmental abuse. It should be added that the PRC simply skillfully used the monopoly position.

REE is needed for the production of iPads, lasers, catalytic converters for automobile engines, plasma TVs and much more. Dysprosium, for example, is used to make powerful magnets that remain stable at high temperatures, neodymium to create hybrid cars, and terbium in energy-saving lamps. Americans need Samaria to build tanks M1A2 "Abrams" and "Aegis Spy-1" audio radars. REEs are also used in precision manufacturing. weapons, Hellfire missiles, avionics, satellites, night vision devices.

Maxim Krylov (Slon.ru) explains popularly:

“Rare-earth metals for a non-expert are a set of sounds from that part of the periodic table that school chemistry classes usually do not look at: 17 elements, including lanthanum, cerium, neodymium, and europium with yttrium adjacent to them. Despite its not very loud fame, rare earth metals are the basis of modern industry: without them, electronics, engineering, and the chemical industry are unthinkable now. For example, the iPhone from which I write this text cannot work without neodymium (magnets for speakers), europium (red pixels on the display, which highlight my spelling errors) or cerium (means for polishing surfaces). That is why rare-earth metals are a tasty morsel for any country producing high-tech products. ”


Ambrose Evans-Pritchard indicatesthat Washington was not ready to restrict the supply of REE by China. The US Secretary of Defense and the energy ministry have announced the search for rare earth metals as their first priority, but warned that this could take up to ten years. Rare-earth metals are not rare, but they are difficult to find in large concentrations.

An analyst quotes Professor Yasuhiro Kato regarding the Chinese export restrictions on REE in 2009. “Their real intention,” said the scientist, “is to force foreign companies to build factories in China.” They say: if you want our rare earth metals, you have to build your plant here, and we will be able to steal your technologies. ”

Japan is known to be an ally of the United States. Therefore, some of the REE mined in the next decade will probably be exported. And this again is an economic blow to China.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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    1. +8
      29 March 2013 11: 22
      95 percent of deliveries are China. Does that come out and Rossich depends? And were there really no reserves of these rare-earth bombs in such vast territories? what
      1. +21
        29 March 2013 11: 27
        We need to fool ourselves better, there can be nothing in such territory. But I’m still wondering if the USA will not find a lack of democracy in Japan now?
        1. +6
          29 March 2013 12: 37
          Oh dear, why should the US seek democracy in Japan? Etozh Soyuznichki is the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the region.
          It's all about the price - how much will 1 kg of this ore cost from 6km depth, m? Touching the distant future and no more
          1. Kaa
            +8
            29 March 2013 16: 32
            Quote: RETX
            It's all about the price - how much will 1 kg of this ore cost from 6km depth, m?

            "Overseas - a half-heifer, but a ruble transportation ..." There is nothing sensationally new in the article, about sea "rare earths" has been known for a long time, the word - to the same Japanese:
            "Japanese scientists led by Kato have quantified this potential source of rare elements. They took about 2 thousand samples of sediments from 78 points from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean and, after analyzing them, came to the conclusion that the content of rare earth metals in them reaches 0,1% in the vicinity of the Hawaiian Islands and 0,2% - in the southern regions.At first glance, this is not so much, but these figures are several orders of magnitude higher than for the rocks of the earth's crust being developed today in China.
            Some of these bottom sediments are up to 70 m thick. Scientists estimate that 1 sq. Km. km of rock around only one of the hydrothermal springs near Hawaii contains about 25 thousand tons of rare earth elements, and in total the ocean floor can store them more than 110 million tons.
            Unfortunately, the availability of these treasures for us is a big question. Experts speak with great skepticism about the possibility of their extraction, considering it to be no more realistic than the prospect of the extraction of fossil resources on the Moon or on the asteroid that has been discussed more than once. In addition, as expert Gareth Hatch notes, in fact, the content of rare-earth elements in most deposits today reaches 3-10%, and the figures about China mentioned by Kato and colleagues make mining economically justified due to the easy availability of this clay rock. What - alas - can not be said about the field, located at a depth of 4-5 km. Http://www.popmech.ru/article/9324-sokrovischa-tsarya-morskogo/
            1. luka095
              +5
              29 March 2013 21: 47
              Dear Kaa, the Japanese newspaper seems to wishful thinking. In essence, this is an attempt at psychological pressure on China. The result is highly doubtful. Another thing is surprising - how hastily some of our scientists evaluate this information ...
              1. Kaa
                0
                30 March 2013 00: 56
                Quote: luka095
                the Japanese newspaper seems to wishful thinking. this is an attempt at psychological pressure on China. . Another thing is surprising - how hastily some of our scientists evaluate this information.

                I agree. But with our "scientists" - a small envelope with evergreens - and a comment on any topic, they also need money for a purchased dissertation ... negative
                1. 0
                  31 March 2013 18: 30
                  Dear Kaa, we will not talk about "scientists", everything is clear. But, you thought that the articles in the press and on the "carpets" of "Abramvichs" and "Deripasoks" are somewhat different. sad Or suspect THESE guys in excess of humanism? lol
              2. mladenec
                0
                30 March 2013 20: 36
                the Japanese newspaper seems to wishful thinking.
                This is an open box (conscious data manipulation), another duck, the same as shale gas for Russia, and this is pressure. Another thing is interesting, China will lead to this, as we at one time, with gas for Europe?
            2. yak69
              +1
              29 March 2013 23: 42
              I think that it will be more important and more effective to move along the path to fundamentally new breakthroughs in science. We need to pay more attention to fundamental science, which is oriented a hundred years in advance. The same controlled thermonuclear fusion (according to scientists) is nothing more than the legendary "Philosopher's Stone" that allows one substance to be easily converted into another. In one scientific article it was said that any element of the table M can be created from ordinary earth (whatever). Also from sea water. And you can make fuel from plain water.
              I don’t know how it looks in practice, but, according to scientists, this is fundamentally possible.
              Vernadsky once argued that cold and ice are universal sources of energy. Tesla spoke about the energy poured into the space around us.
              In a word, it is necessary to look for fundamentally different approaches and solutions.
              It can be not only scientific breakthroughs, but also ideological ones. Associated with the development of human qualities and hidden abilities. After all, a person walking (seriously) along the path of spiritual development no longer needs many things and objects: food, clothing, housing, weapons, means of communication and movement.
              It may sound fantastic, but think about it - many righteous people, saints, initiates, martial artists, did not need so many things. But it is precisely to this that all world religions and the same communist ideology call.
              We must move towards the realization that the Western model of the civilization of consumption makes humanity directly dependent on various kinds of limited resources. And as a result of endless strife and war.
              This is what advanced minds need to think about. To come to an understanding of a simple truth: there is no contradiction between the spiritual and the material! Spirit and matter are one and they just need to learn to combine.
              1. mladenec
                +2
                30 March 2013 21: 15
                fundamentally new breakthroughs in science. We need to pay more attention to fundamental science, which is oriented a hundred years in advance. The same controlled thermonuclear fusion (according to scientists) is nothing more than the legendary "Philosopher's Stone" that allows one substance to be easily converted into another. In one scientific article it was said that any element of the table M can be created from ordinary earth (whatever). Also from sea water. And you can make fuel from plain water.

                Lately, I have come to the conclusion that science is a kind of brake on progress, since most scientists (fundamental, superiors, if you want) earned their Names not on something new, but on confirmation of what was said earlier, maybe even delirium (as if I’m not mistaken Edison , wrote a scientific article with evidence of the impossibility of flying the device heavier than air) but bad luck Majaysky was not a scientist, he did not know that the plane could not fly by the laws of nature, and built it, then the Wright brothers also repeated it, but when they flew and this was seen all over the world, here the scientists stirred, began to come up with a theory, do science, and then base of conscience say that without it planes would not fly; cars (trains) would not go.
                A vivid example of fascist Germany, everyone is amazed at where they got such successes Engineering is decades ahead of time, and even centuries, in all directions, I think that science (traditional was stuck in f ***) since Hitler was a fanatic of mysticism ( Shambhala Tibet, Atlantis, Wijmans) and engineers (THERE WHO MOVES PROGRESS !!!!!!!!!!) received a wide enough degree of freedom, which led to a grand breakthrough in all areas. Financing basic science is just as rational as stoking banknotes, no, of course there will be a result, because many talented people walking along the wrong path will poke their way onto the true paths, but in fundamental terms they will constantly spread rot (as they say if the facts they don’t agree with the convictions of science, all the worse for facts), in general, these points should be explained for a very long time, the general conclusion is that if we want a qualitative breakthrough in a short time, we need to develop a concept of free technology search not limited by the paradigms of old science ... in general, so that an example is clear :
                It’s not necessary to say that the perpetual motion machine is not possible in principle, or even in every possible way slows down all developments that at least look like it, but simply announce once a year a demonstration of perpetual motion from developers, with a detailed explanation of its operation (well, so that there is no pure swindle) with repetition, collection according to drawings in third-party institutes, if it is confirmed, then the prize of Billion rubles blah, blah, blah, and so on.
              2. 0
                31 March 2013 18: 34
                Yes Yes Yes. BUT! First, you need to dig bunkers at a kilometer depth for "seekers of other approaches." Can you guess why?
            3. DeerIvanovich
              +1
              30 March 2013 13: 55
              so, from that and the hype is the same as with slate. production, if possible, is only on condition that the cost is comparable to that which China pulled by its restriction.
              hence the attempts to establish production in order to force China to lower prices as a result of competition, just like with Russian gas.
          2. Gluxar_
            +1
            30 March 2013 01: 38
            Quote: RETX
            Oh dear, why should the US seek democracy in Japan? Etozh Soyuznichki is the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the region. It's all about the price - how much will 1 kg of this ore cost from 6km depth, m? Touching the distant future and no more

            Moreover, it is not yet a fact that something is even there. The Japanese are in despair, the budget is bursting, so they want to bring down the import prices of these resources with such a canard. Before that, it was infa that they found countless gas reserves and extract it from gas hydrates ... also quite by accident, when spot gas prices rose to unaffordable. Tomorrow they will need more uranium, they will find it somewhere, and certainly "the largest on the planet."
            Lazha
            1. avensis
              0
              30 March 2013 07: 05
              I agree . It all looks like that - crap
      2. +15
        29 March 2013 11: 27
        Quote: Yeraz
        And really in such vast territories were not found stocks of these rare-earth gadgets?

        Yes, we have everything! Only well-known forces make it so that we do not use our own wealth! If we had a new Stalin, the situation would be radically different!
      3. ughhh
        +6
        29 March 2013 11: 29
        because they are rare land)
      4. Zynaps
        +8
        29 March 2013 15: 40
        you eat these elements in the crust of the Earth, but they are very scattered. take the same lithium. it is everywhere, it is necessary for electronics and batteries, but to get it you have to sift tons and tons of all empty. to isolate such elements is very difficult and dreary - this
        a whole range of subtle physical and chemical technologies and special metallurgy.

        in fact, the USSR was a leader in the production of rare and trace elements, and domestic industry consumed a lot of them. and since now there is only one zilch left from the electronics industry, machine tool building and instrument making, no one bothers in the production of rare and dispersed ones — like, it will be cheaper to buy from China or to mold from someone else’s kit. but when the Chinese drew neodymium for powerful magnets, they began to think in places where a thinker might think ahead.
        1. ben05
          0
          29 March 2013 23: 54
          We have a rare earth in the Kuril Islands.
      5. StolzSS
        +4
        29 March 2013 16: 30
        There was also in our territory before the collapse of the USSR in Central Asia, but now it has cooled down on Iturup island))) Or do you think cross-eyed just got there ... with the islands)))
        1. Zynaps
          +2
          30 March 2013 02: 50
          so-called The "cross-eyed" Kuril Islands are needed only to maintain the degree of hatred in society. and Japan itself, they did not resist in principle. the Japanese do not know what to do with the island of Hokkaido. they have it like the local Siberia. poorly populated, the infrastructure is relatively undeveloped. well, the rains and fogs are frequent, the winter is cooler - for this, the Japanese soldiers in Hokkaido are read in a year and a half. what are the deposits of rare and scattered on Iturup. as some comrades have justly pointed out, they can be found, isolated and processed in any dump.
      6. +5
        29 March 2013 18: 11
        There are reserves, there are technologies (which none). Some types of rare earths are produced here (at the enterprises of the Rosatom concern), but they cannot withstand competition, it is not profitable to produce - the final price is very high, plus insignificant amounts of production, since they are not mined by specialists. They are obtained as a "by-product" in the production of other metals.
        Here's an example ... native plant)) http://www.chmz.net/product/rzp/
        We have mastered the production of superconductors for the ITER project, mastering the production of ultrapure rare earths and their compounds is also not a problem, but nobody needs it - in China it is cheaper to buy, so no one moves.
      7. +8
        29 March 2013 18: 32
        Quote: Yeraz
        95 percent of deliveries are China. Does that come out and Rossich depends? And were there really no reserves of such rare rare-earth bombs in such vast territories?


        rare earth mining has serious environmental consequences, as it generates toxic and dangerous gases, pollutants and wastewater. That is why production was originally transferred to China. Weak environmental legislation allowed the mining industry to more easily settle in China.
        To say more about China owns 23% of the world's rare earths . And here is 90%
        mining is controlled by China.
        Russia, the USA, Australia, India, Malaysia, Vietnam and Canada (only a few) possess reserves of all types of REE.
        Just the dispute over the Senkaku Islands with Japan had the goal of China closing off its access to REE.
        Germany was thinking about developing the Shtorkvits deposit near Leipzig where, according to geologists, the volume of rare-earth metals is about 20 thousand tons, which is estimated at 2 billion euros.
        We also had rare earths in the USSR before the fig; now I don’t know, probably all the mining is poher.
        1. Kaa
          +2
          30 March 2013 01: 03
          Quote: Ascetic
          now I don’t know, probably all the booty is poher.

          "Russia owns at least 20 percent of the world's geological reserves of rare earth metals, but their production is about 2 percent, and the production of items with rare earth metals - less than 1 percent. This imbalance is planned to be corrected in the next five years within the framework of state-entrepreneurial partnership. Twenty years ago, the rare earth complex The USSR ranked third in the world in production and second in reserves.In 1990, 8,5 thousand tons of rare earth materials were produced, while 5,5 thousand tons were issued by the enterprises of the Ministry of Medium Machine Building (today it is the Rosatom company).
          Today the reserves of rare earth metals are included in the ores of 14 deposits in Russia. The peculiarity of the mineral resource base of our country is that they are mainly complex ores, which, among other things, contain rare-earth metals. Large reserves are confined to the loparite ores of the Lovozero deposit (14 percent of all-Russian reserves), which contain about 1 percent of rare-earth metals. The resulting loparite concentrates contain 30 percent of rare earth oxides, represented mainly by the cerium group. The volume of production of loparite concentrate by Lovozersky GOK is 10 thousand tons per year and is limited by the production capacity of the Solikamsk magnesium plant. In recent years, SMZ has processed about 6 thousand tons of loparite concentrate and produced about 2,5 thousand tons of rare earth products per year in the form of rare-earth carbonates worth about a billion rubles. Approximately 98 percent of production was exported. In 2010, development began in the country's largest and one of the world's largest rare earth deposits, the Chuktukonskoye. The resources of the Chuktukonskoye deposit, located in the Boguchansky district of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, are estimated at 163 million tons of niobium-rare earth ores. Investments in the project should amount to 120 billion rubles. The average content of useful components: iron - 30 percent, manganese oxide - 4,74 percent, niobium oxide - 1 percent, oxides of other rare earth metals - 4,2. The rest of the deposits are in reserve. These are, in particular, rare earth-apatite ores of the Seligdar deposit in the Republic of Sakha-Yakutia (23 percent of Russia's reserves); ores of the Ulug-Tanzeksky and oil-bearing sandstones of the Yarega deposits. The Tomtor field (Buranny site) in the Republic of Sakha-Yakutia is especially promising. The unique ores of the site contain on average 9-12 percent of rare-earth metal oxides, that is, they represent a natural concentrate of rare-earth metals. Http://www.bigness.ru/articles/2012-02-16/redkie_zemli/132919/
          Someone is missing, obviously ...
          1. 0
            31 March 2013 18: 41
            About IT, I do not argue. But, is it worth it to hysteria with the extraction of non-renewable resources. On someone else's x ... somehow more pleasant to ride. Moreover, there was a post about the harmfulness of mining ... We need it.
        2. +1
          30 March 2013 01: 45
          We also had rare earths in the USSR before the fig; now I don’t know, probably all the mining is poher.


          No, not poher.

          NMMC, enterprises in Krasnogorsk, AGMK are just three budget-forming state-owned companies in Uzbekistan, which are also involved in rare-earth elements (the main products are uranium, gold, polymetals, etc.). Since you talked about the USSR, ALL, I unsubscribed, do not think about what. Rare earth deposits are being developed in Uzbekistan, and ties with Russia have never been interrupted.
          1. 0
            31 March 2013 18: 46
            By the way, I wandered into one site. There, a guy from Uzbekistan was very hysterical that the "occupiers" had dirtied the land in the mines and continued to poison the poor Uzbeks. Is there smoke without fire?
    2. Nasty
      +21
      29 March 2013 11: 32
      This crap in the form of industrial waste in our Urals in bulk. In dumps of phosphogypsum, rare-earth metals are 3-5 times greater than in ores. We have technology, but there isn’t something ... something ... brains or something in the leadership?
      1. +12
        29 March 2013 14: 17
        A thousand times + !!! Even under the Soviet Union, the Japanese asked to sell them waste heaps in the Far East !!! In the dumps during the extraction (processing) of copper and other ore, rare earths abound !!! It is only necessary to build modern high-tech factories for their extraction and make a profit, but what about?!?! When there are plants "for free" from the USSR! Row your profit and don't worry !!! Why invest in them when you can invest in Chelsea or Monaco - the standard and dull psychology of the Russian nouveau riche !!! angry
        1. YuDDP
          +1
          29 March 2013 21: 05
          Quote: olegff68
          the Japanese asked to sell them heaps in the Far East

          as well as filters at Novorossiysk cement plants (second series ...)
    3. +5
      29 March 2013 11: 37
      Yes, at the bottom of the ocean and not so much can be found. Let technology be presented, how to get it there. Yet 6 km is decent.
      1. +16
        29 March 2013 12: 02
        Quote: ATATA
        Let technology be presented, how to get it there. Yet 6 km is decent.

        Ancient deepwater mining technology
        fossils wassat belay wassat

        They still forgot to write about a new field.
        strontium near fukushima laughing
      2. 0
        30 March 2013 14: 31
        Here I am about the same laughing Rare elements of the periodic table were found, including Uranus Plutonium, which is used in high-tech production: manufacturing smartphones, hard drives, etc.
    4. +3
      29 March 2013 11: 40
      For the Iponians it’s not so big - go down to a depth of 6 km !!! wassat and get rare earths Me, well, well, we'll take a look. lol
      1. ben05
        0
        29 March 2013 23: 56
        Yes to get a mere trifle Yes
    5. +4
      29 March 2013 11: 40
      It is possible that this is disa .. Japan may already have no other choice but to bring down prices with such desam, and go check it at a depth of 5 km and off the coast of Japan. Storytellers. Generally widespread in recent years, a trick such as in Afghanistan, untold wealth. incredible reserves of shale gas in Europe .. and so on and so forth.
      1. +1
        29 March 2013 12: 02
        With Atlantes they will give thanks, and will trample the matter! bully
      2. +1
        29 March 2013 13: 46
        Yes, they have just recently "discovered" methane hydrates, apparently it doesn't matter at all without an atom. Apparently the same PR man found REE, As in "our rush": Che, do you think it will work?)))
    6. +3
      29 March 2013 11: 46
      Oh, these Japanese are for me, they were going to extract methane hydrate from the depths, now this, almost 6 km, is a lot. Pressure, temperature, production costs will be huge. Although as an option, of course, yes, especially the Japanese are stubborn in this regard. Probably enough for your needs. But that would be unlikely to trade. The price will go through the roof.
      1. 0
        31 March 2013 18: 52
        Process for process sake? And the cost of production from "deep-sea" rare earths?
    7. +1
      29 March 2013 12: 00
      If this is reality, and production will not be prohibitively expensive, then Japan with its statements will bring closer its occupation or destruction, or maybe democratization, from China or the USA. And everyone will spit on some sort of agreement. Rare earth metals in our time with the development of technology, are becoming a strategic resource no lower than oil and uranium in importance.
      1. +3
        29 March 2013 12: 18
        Quote: Alex45
        If this is reality, and production will not be prohibitively expensive

        This is a Japanese kind of panic.
    8. +4
      29 March 2013 12: 21
      At the very least, China skillfully uses the monopoly on rare earth deposits in its interests. It’s bad that Russia does not use monopolies, for sure we also have large deposits. For example, 90% of the world's amber reserves are located and mined in Russia, in the Kaliningrad region, but in reality it turns out the cream is taken by Poland - Poland is the largest exporter of amber, there are many examples. Take Finland - for a penny we buy a round timber, process it ourselves and sell paper to us and are also a leader in the supply of paper in Europe.
      1. Zynaps
        +4
        29 March 2013 15: 43
        "rare earth deposits" are an oxymoron. these elements are everywhere, but they are very much dispersed in the earth's crust. their concentration is very low. for their industrial production, it is necessary to develop again the whole complex of physical and chemical sciences, metallurgy, materials science and submolecular technologies.
    9. 0
      29 March 2013 12: 30
      It remains to take! It can be said that "under the feet" of any state, within 4000 km, there are countless treasures.
    10. Owl
      +2
      29 March 2013 12: 40
      The Japanese share the skin of an unkilled bear. Just discovering the deposits, they already say that they can greatly limit the monopoly of China. Only it’s still not known in which a pretty penny yen will fly in the production of these metals. It turns out that the cost of production is higher than the price of China. The Yankees also shouted about the "shale revolution", but in reality, not everything is so rosy ...
    11. +1
      29 March 2013 12: 56
      The main thing for the Japanese is to bring down the price of gas (RF), and rzm (China). The trend is clear
      1. 0
        31 March 2013 18: 56
        The crowd can boil nonsense. A sense. Volcano business is not from newspapers INFORMATION scooped.
    12. +2
      29 March 2013 14: 07
      Well, let them get it, it won’t be worse ... their fate is to collect dirt from the bottom
    13. +1
      29 March 2013 14: 07
      Yes, let the japas dig. Digging harder and drowning in FIG their unsinkable aircraft carrier.
    14. +2
      29 March 2013 14: 26
      At how wonderful everything is with the Japanese, hydrates found yesterday, today rare metals. That's bad luck, everything is at a great depth and it’s impossible to get it somehow. Well, there are two ways out, either to drain the Pacific Ocean, or to plunge the whole country closer to the deposits. Here the main goal is to set yourself, there is nothing impossible.
    15. +1
      29 March 2013 15: 20
      Interesting info. But 6 km .... Profitability is doubtful.
    16. Genoezec.
      0
      29 March 2013 15: 28
      In my opinion, the 6 km depth will become a difficult factor in the extraction of rare-earth metals, and it is unlikely that this will affect the enormous extraction of these by the Chinese.
    17. 0
      29 March 2013 15: 30
      The news is similar in plan to that of shale gas in America. It is there, but how to take everything? Japan has no Worlds and Losharik! As they say, we will see. But in Russia there are enough of its rare-earths, and we apparently get it only for our own needs, and not for export. Maybe we’re selling something, in a scanty way, in order to keep the market price, but nothing more.
    18. rubber_duck
      +2
      29 March 2013 16: 37
      It reminds an old joke about oil in Afghanistan, saying that even if the Americans find it there, it’s easier to turn it over from Mars, since there are no Taliban on Mars. laughing But seriously, at the moment, mankind is mining at least something from a six-kilometer depth? lol As for the Japanese, they cannot preserve the damaged nuclear power plant at home.
    19. Volkhov
      +1
      29 March 2013 18: 05
      There is a break in the Pacific plate, you can wait a bit, the plate will rise and dig, but why - there will be no demand for ore from Japan either.
    20. 0
      29 March 2013 20: 33
      For playing the stock exchange, not such tales were told to the whole world!
    21. 0
      29 March 2013 22: 20
      According to The Tokyo Times, Japan has discovered truly "astronomical" rare earth deposits: a whole deposit, located, however, at a depth of about 5,8 km below the surface of the Pacific Ocean

      Very close, around the corner !!!
    22. +1
      29 March 2013 22: 36
      The Government of Papua New Guinea in Port Moresby issued (2012) the world's first seabed mining license. For twenty years, the Canadian company Nautilus Minerals has been able to mine precious metals in the Bismarck Sea region. Solwara 1 is a pilot project. It includes enormous wealth: gold, silver, copper, as well as rare earth elements. Papua New Guinea's share is 30 percent of the project's profits.
    23. 0
      30 March 2013 09: 22
      “We don’t even need to mine intensively,” says Professor Kato. “All we need to do is get enough to make China lower its prices.”

      Question:
      Why do the Japanese need to force China to cut prices if the Japanese themselves produce the same rare-earth metals? If something is expensive for one, then why seek a price drop if the second one appears? To reduce the total income of both? Meaning?
      It seems that there is more psychological pressure on China. What and how much Yapi was found there, what is the cost of extracting raw materials, how much it will be mined - can be made unknown to anyone but the Yapes themselves, but to crack up the whole world that huge reserves have been found, much is produced and cheap, so that China reduces its prices rare earths, which, in fact, want yapi. However, Kato practically said so. I hope that the Chinese do not fall for this bait.
    24. 0
      31 March 2013 07: 48
      ahem. and I carefully read those objects that use these rare-earth metals:
      - iPads - I don’t have it, I don’t need it,
      - lasers, - ahem, I understand in medicine, in the military, in science - where to put it in the kitchen ??
      - catalytic converters for auto engine - ZIL-130, GAZ, KAMAZ of the 90s ??,
      - plasma TVs - still tube !!!!!! rarely watch.
      and much more. ??????
      Dysprosium - powerful magnets - I understand this, only to scientists or if you do train with a flying train.
      - neodymium - to create hybrid cars - where is the E-mobile ????
      - terbium - in energy-saving lamps - until now, I use and will use ordinary lamp tubes (although there a spiral made of valuable metal is made)
      - Americans need Samaria to build Abrams M1A2 tanks and Aegis Spy-1 audio radars. REEs are also used in the manufacture of precision weapons, Hellfire missiles, avionics, satellites, night vision devices .. - I definitely don’t need samarium.

      Conclusion: I alone do not depend on China? or are there more citizens?
    25. 0
      April 1 2013 00: 02
      Some kind of unclear information. The Japanese are likely to BLUFF. By and large, they are sorry ... the Chinese have solidly jammed them with me .. they are jerking with these metals. But about the phrase:
      "Japan learned a bitter lesson from the events of 2010 when, due to the aggravation of relations with China"
      I think the Japanese have not learned ANY lesson. Otherwise, they would not have had claims to ALL of their neighbors. And now, in general, they are facing ANOTHER nuclear bombardment. And after such a policy, how can we talk about "lessons learned." As these Japanese were stupid, they remained - they are manipulated, they are substituted, and they, like brainless sheep, go under the distribution ...
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      April 1 2013 11: 17
      Some kind of unclear information. The Japanese are likely to BLUFF.

      hi Naturally! This tale is from a series if you don’t sell metals for us, then we’ll go to kaaak now for 6 km, kaaaaak to drill another 4 km, and we will mine 100500 tons from the depths where no one else worked ...

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