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Norwegian Navy from the website of the Ministry of Defense of Norway


KV Svalbard - icebreaker and patrol vessel of the coast guard of Norway.





Preparation for the operation of Ocean Shield, which will have to ensure the safety of navigation off the coast of the Horn of Africa.





































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  1. svp67
    svp67 30 March 2013 10: 13 New
    +8
    Well, Norway is doing everything to protect its economic space, and these "gray ships" are a very effective tool, if you just remember how many Russian ships they caught for "illegal" fishing. It's time for our fleet to prove itself in those waters, you see, and against their background the Norwegian ones will not look so beautiful ...
    1. beech
      beech 30 March 2013 10: 48 New
      11
      it won’t work ... those disputed waters, as if from a gentleman’s shoulder, were kindly given to them by Medvedev when he was still president ...
      1. itr
        itr 30 March 2013 19: 26 New
        -4
        The ships won't turn out just beautiful
    2. laurbalaur
      laurbalaur 30 March 2013 11: 47 New
      13
      I agree, I would like to add that the Norwegians (they say that this is their national tradition, like that of the Japanese) still destroy whales and they spat on international quotas. So I would like to add that it would not hurt our gray boats to periodically click on the bow of the Norwegian whalers who hunt in Russian waters.
    3. Dante Alighieri
      Dante Alighieri 30 March 2013 12: 45 New
      +9
      To my deep regret, we can only give them the shelf so that poor Norwegians do not starve to death crying
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 30 March 2013 18: 19 New
      0
      Here is the answer, through whom they will put pressure on us. They sosus set, And let's put a chain of mines from Spitz to Murman, and then we make round eyes and say, "Guys, we have nothing to do with this, this is an echo of World War II, all questions are to the Germans.
    5. itr
      itr 30 March 2013 19: 25 New
      +2
      Do not forget how many days they fought for their independence in World War II.
      But fishermen do not need to strangle a lot of militancy
      1. laurbalaur
        laurbalaur 30 March 2013 20: 32 New
        +3
        Dear, do not tell, the nearest fjord will help the Norwegian fisherman to feed his family, and you need to drive the vessels of fishing mega-firms, which then sell this fish to us at prices corresponding to the standard of living in Norway. And this is a mess.
  2. Yeraz
    Yeraz 30 March 2013 10: 26 New
    11
    The ships certainly look beautiful, and the area is beautiful, BUT they are nothing compared to the Scandinavian beauty from the penultimate photo good
  3. Russian
    Russian 30 March 2013 10: 29 New
    +8
    The program was shown that in Norway, on the site of provincial villages, these cities grew up with well-developed infrastructure, and you know why? Because we are driving all the fish to the market for them, it is not profitable to sell it at home, plus smuggling, because before Norway was a poor country, and now it is in the lead in living standards.
    So, here we have a lot of seafood resources, but you will not find them on the shelves, and if you find them, then you will be in three ways.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 30 March 2013 10: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
      So, here we have a lot of seafood resources, but you will not find them on the shelves, and if you find them, then you will be in three ways.

      when were you last in the market? what kind of fish are you looking for and can't find? and the one that is on the shelves doesn't suit you?
      and again, the population of Norway is 5 million people, the population of Russia is 143 million .. the question is how to make at least 130 million Russians live like Norwegians?
      for reference, you can see what prices in Norway))) a couple of quotes: I translate into rubles - gas 60-77 rubles, cigarettes 400 rubles a pack, jeans 3-5 thousand, a loaf of bread 100-120 rubles, eggs 130-150 rubles ... Well, and so on. Read it yourself, you can take and look at any country, and then say at all angles that in Europe salaries are 3-5 thousand bucks so they live richer))) just keep in mind that after paying all sorts of housing and communal services, taxes, etc. they don’t have much left for life!

      http://dalniestrany.ru/norvegiya-tseny
      1. Atrix
        Atrix 30 March 2013 13: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: djon3volta

        will not work ... those disputed waters, as from a gentleman’s shoulder

        Why are you comparing prices like this? And look how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway and you will be very surprised

        So there’s nothing to tell tales about the decaying west laughing
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 March 2013 15: 01 New
          14
          Quote: Atrix
          So there’s nothing to tell tales about the decaying west

          About 10-15 years ago, I would completely agree with you, and now, I'm sorry, all the signs of degradation and decay of the new Roman Empire under the name of the EU, mired in luxury and debauchery, are present, and new barbarians are ready to crush it too. While immigrants from Pakistan do nothing but rape the blond Norwegians (because they are loose in their understanding) in the future they will simply be cut ..
          Narrated by Irina Bergset ...
          The former serfs of Sweden and Denmark - the Norwegians received their language in 1905. There is no own science and culture. Doctors are almost all immigrants. In schools in Norway up to grade 7 learn the alphabet and math. Chemistry, Physics, Geometry, Biologists, etc. are not taught ...
          University of Oslo - Teaching Level - Russian College. Schools and kindergartens do not feed children ...
          Having toilets in their homes, the Norwegians still walk around the corner of their home.
          But the worst thing is the prosperity of homosexuality, pedophilia, incest (in Norway, the marriage of blood brothers and sisters is normal).
          30 form of marriage is officially accepted!
          Do you know the reason for Breivik's revenge on the ruling party? Not Islam ...
          He was taken away by the "child protection" service, while in foster families he was raped many times ..
          In 2008 in Norway, 40 thousand pedophiles were registered with the criminal police (Kripos). About 10 percent of the country's adult population.


          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 30 March 2013 15: 06 New
            +5
            Here is another indirect confirmation of the truth about Norwegian life

          2. itkul
            itkul 30 March 2013 15: 42 New
            -2
            Quote: Ascetic
            all the signs of degradation and decay of the new Roman Empire under the name of the EU, mired in luxury and debauchery


            Come on, at least homosexual prosecutors do not upload their video to the Internet, as here

            Attention! Persons under 18 are forbidden to watch!

            http://tltgorod.ru/news/?news=27627
          3. Atrix
            Atrix 30 March 2013 16: 00 New
            -2
            Quote: Ascetic


            Are you a smart person? I can find so many videos about Russians who live in Russia that it seems that Russia lives in such poverty, so let's rely on the facts.
            Here is a comparison, although I do not like when Russia called Raska
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 30 March 2013 18: 36 New
              10
              Quote: Atrix
              let's rely on the facts.


              lana 19.03.2013/10/18, XNUMX:XNUMX
              No, my sister and her husband live there, their neighbor's child was taken from their friends. At first they came to the garden talking with teachers, there were no curtains on the windows in Norway, they spied through the windows, and then they took the social services. service, for a child at 6 years old dad teaches to read in Russian. These neighbors already have 3 or 4 foster children, dressed like homeless people, children live separately in the basement, and adults on the 1st floor. This is considered the norm. The father tried to pick up the child, he was threatened with deportation, but his mother did not care.


              lana to heh 20.03.2013/11/48, XNUMX:XNUMX a.m.
              Perhaps each commune has its own rules, but where the sister lives in Tromsø, they also feed gravy once a day, and parents give them sandwiches, usually 2 pieces, but they must take the child out of the garden before 5 o’clock. Do not bring with you, go hungry.

              "Russian mothers" staged an action at the Norwegian diplomatic mission
              link

              Norway: Committee on the Protection of Children's Rights (Barnevern) against children
              link
              Children were taken from a Latvian in Norway
              link

              And now try to convince me that all this was 10-15 years ago and despite this, Norway still flourishes. What does this lead to? Elementary degeneration and no buns will save from this ..
              1. Atrix
                Atrix 30 March 2013 18: 47 New
                -7
                Quote: Ascetic
                Ascetic

                Well, this is all very debatable. You didn’t live in this family? How do you know how native parents treated children? And also this is all from their words that children dress like homeless people, there is no photo or video confirmation. Or do you want to say that Russia has adopted children or orphans who live in boarding schools live like in a fairy tale? What particular case relates to the standard of living? At least they leave children in the country by any means, maybe even too cruel for Russian mothers, but in Russia, what was better before when children were given abroad?
                1. in reserve
                  30 March 2013 20: 07 New
                  +7
                  Another naive Ukrainian guy who firmly believes in the well-being and prosperity of Europe. And she wants to go live there. Yes, Europe is thriving in strengthening the institution of same-sex families and the production of porn products.
                  The fact that children are being taken away there, "thousands of Russian women cannot be mistaken."
                2. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 31 March 2013 00: 40 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Atrix
                  What particular case relates to the standard of living? At least they leave children in the country by any means, maybe even too cruel for Russian mothers, but in Russia, what was better before when children were given abroad?

                  The Roman Empire also had a high standard of living and a developed civilization.
                  I repeat once again that Europe of the 90s (my sister lives in France since that time, and her husband is far from poor and her father-in-law is an oligarch in general) is on the path of moral degradation and decomposition unfortunately. People turn into biorobots, When I hear the phrase - fi.sovok from advanced ones are the same biorobots with brains sharpened on buy buy deceive take everything from life and enjoy the patterns of the western dress code, I see how far they are from the scoop, people who, in terms of their consciousness, have reached a higher level of human society of the future. whose time has not come yet. Civilizers feel this in every possible way defaming and destroying the sprouts of this consciousness of the scoop, but in the end, GOOD will defeat EVIL or be reborn from a collapsed civilization of lies and deceit.
          4. smile
            smile 30 March 2013 20: 59 New
            +9
            Ascetic
            I confirm. About ten years ago, a group of teachers from the city of Zelenogradsk of the Kaliningrad region visited an exchange in schools in one of the Norwegian islands ... My friend. the member of this group told incomprehensible facts about their education to the mind ... for example, she, a philologist, went into a beautiful chemistry room and was stunned when she saw at the booth not some periodic table, but some other, simplified one ... asked the Norwegian - and where is Mendeleev - and he was stunned that a simple Russian philologist knows about this great chemical secret - we, they say, study it only in higher educational institutions, and then not in the first year ...
            further, from a quarter to a third of the children in the class are downs (well, an island), at first they were hidden from the Russians (they were okay with the show, no worse than ours) but a week later they were sent to classes ... as a result, in the lessons a complete madhouse is going on ... well, there are a lot of interesting things ...
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 31 March 2013 14: 41 New
              +4
              Quote: smile
              the philologist went into a beautiful chemistry room - and was stunned when she saw at the stand not a periodic table, but some other

              Not arguing about that ...
              The conversation is not about sexual orientation, not about the number of fag ... moat per capita ...
              Talk about the ability of the state to manage its natural wealth and resources.
              About the care of the state for each of its citizens and citizens (here, the discrepancy about pluralism and the rights of sexual minorities begins).

              More than 300 years ago, young Peter sent the sovereign's people for internships and young people to study in Europe. And then in Muscovy Europe was viewed as the concentration of all sins ("Latins" for the Orthodox then, are similar to today's homosexuals).

              Let's take the necessary and the best. It is not a sin to learn in organization and administration.
              And how to drive their "car" is not a bastard.
              And to learn the good and necessary - "what do you mean? But never ..."
        2. wrungel
          wrungel 30 March 2013 17: 06 New
          +5
          see how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway

          Also not entirely objective. You can compare the amount of oil produced per population.

          And if you estimate the number of people with us and with them? I recalled:
          "The smaller the collective farm, the easier it is to manage."
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta 30 March 2013 17: 21 New
            +3
            Quote: wrungel
            You can compare the amount of oil produced per population.

            that’s right, I’m telling that to this ru_s_s_s_k_i_y that I don’t need to compare 5 million and 143 million, but can you prove to them that they are stubborn like bulls fool
          2. Atrix
            Atrix 30 March 2013 17: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: wrungel
            see how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway

            Also not entirely objective. You can compare the amount of oil produced per population.

            And if you estimate the number of people with us and with them? I recalled:
            "The smaller the collective farm, the easier it is to manage."

            Look, in Japan they don’t produce oil at all and what makes them live worse or less than in Russia I can buy it and the population, as it were, is also not a little 126 million? Or Germany?
            1. wrungel
              wrungel 30 March 2013 18: 43 New
              +3
              Atrix
              I would love to have a discussion with you over a glass of tea. wink . Germany and Japan are a very interesting example. For example, Germany. You have the above table from ria.ru. There the numbers are completely different. Anyway. There is a reason for you to sort out this issue yourself. First, find out how much the average German worker (close to you by profession) receives. But only real after paying all taxes, payment, etc. And then take the average price of fuel (for example, 95 = 1,549 Euros (February). And divide it. Although this is all completely off topic (Navy of Norway).
              1. Atrix
                Atrix 30 March 2013 19: 01 New
                -1
                Quote: wrungel
                wrungel

                Well look at the site
                http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries.jsp
                Prices in Germany are higher than in Russia by an average of about 20-40%, but salary after taxes is higher than 279.99%. In Russia, the average after taxes is 550EUR in Germany 2100EUR
                1. wrungel
                  wrungel 30 March 2013 22: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: Atrix

                  Well look at the site

                  Clear. Well, let's leave the numbers as they are. And let's try to divide. It turned out 1355 liters. Dofig, but it's not at all 1818. Error at 463 liters, robust. There is a suspicion that it is the same with other data. Now by 2100 euros, it turns out that it is "dirty" somewhere around 3000. I hope you know who in Germany earns that way? Our employees of these specialties can also earn (not all). Several acquaintances of mine left for Germany at 90. So they figs will buy these 1818 liters. And I can calmly my 770.
        3. djon3volta
          djon3volta 30 March 2013 17: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: Atrix
          And look how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway and you will be very surprised

          but tell me about Venezuela then, is there gas in general 50 kopecks translated into rubles, and what, are people happy there? By your logic, is the people's happiness in the price of gasoline? laughing I honestly do not care how much gas costs in Russia, 1 ruble or 30 rubles laughing it’s just not right for me to tell that the price of food depends on the price of gasoline, even for pensioners it doesn’t hit the wallet, for example, increasing the price of bread from 15 rubles to 16 rubles. bread does not rise from 15 rubles to 40 rubles, such increases were in the early 90s x when inflation was more than 2000% and dropped to 700% in 1993 if I am not mistaken.
          1. Atrix
            Atrix 30 March 2013 17: 22 New
            0
            I just gave you an example that the price does not affect the availability of goods, as you said, gasoline can cost 10 rubles for a salary of 1000 rubles, and it can cost 30 rubles for a salary of 9000 rubles. And you seriously do not understand how the price of gasoline affects the increase in food prices, maybe the price of delivery of goods also does not affect the price? Well, yes there is no difference in shipping costs to pay 1000 rubles or 10000 rubles, because the goods themselves appear in stores. Go better study the economy, then you can understand what prices are formed from and what affects them.
            1. djon3volta
              djon3volta 30 March 2013 17: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Atrix
              Go better study the economy, then you can understand what prices are formed from and what affects them.

              tell me about the economy of Ukraine better. here judging by your flag, you know better about Ukraine, but I'm talking about Russia. Logically?
              I know I know how energy prices affect different goods. You also know the economy like me, it’s no better. You also scoop everything from the Internet like everyone else. So it’s not for you to teach me economics No.
              and about Japan and Germany, so if they had oil, they would sell it as well as all the countries that produce it.
              agree, it’s good when you have your own oil and gas tongue
              and yet, believe me, if a person has a car even for 300-500 thousand, then this person would be silent about the price of gasoline for 30 rubles, and if for 1 million people have a car, then in general they will complain! A million means there is a car, and 300 rubles for 10 liters of benzene is not? Ayah, it’s not good. Usually, alcoholics behave this way, buying a bubble for 200 rubles, and sniff it with electrical tape, it’s a pity they will shell out for an appetizer laughing but 200 rubles per bubble is not a pity laughing
              1. Atrix
                Atrix 30 March 2013 17: 49 New
                -3
                Quote: djon3volta
                just scoop everything from the internet like everyone

                Further discussions with you are useless, believe me there are people who graduated from universities, and not like some 5 classes.
                1. djon3volta
                  djon3volta 30 March 2013 17: 54 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Atrix
                  not like some 5 classes.

                  so I still go to nursery, I’m still little, I’m 3 years old. Moreover, I’m Nashi, Putin’s. politician, Edrosovets, thief, so it’s better not to lead a discussion, you’re right laughing
            2. atalef
              atalef 30 March 2013 17: 49 New
              +3
              Quote: Atrix
              And you seriously do not understand how the price of gasoline affects the increase in food prices, maybe the price of delivery of goods also does not affect the price?

              Take a look at his comments (djon3volta) and you will realize that he really does not understand the connection. He has a problem with causation in general. laughing .
              1. djon3volta
                djon3volta 30 March 2013 17: 56 New
                -3
                Quote: atalef
                that he really does not understand the connection

                I don’t understand, of course, I didn’t pass the exam, I don’t have brains, I’m Russian, I got it like in the picture. Why should I think? I have a bag of money in the corner, I take out billions from it and scatter them to the right and to the left)))
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 31 March 2013 14: 46 New
            +4
            Quote: djon3volta
            that's just inappropriately telling me that food prices depend on gas prices

            That's right!
            In Poland, gasoline costs 2 times more expensive, and local agricultural products - 2 times cheaper.
            I repeat:
            in Russia, not so much the salary is low, but how much the prices and tariffs are unrealistically high. Due to the corruption component.
        4. itr
          itr 30 March 2013 19: 42 New
          -1
          And how was it cheaper for you?
          1. Atrix
            Atrix 30 March 2013 19: 49 New
            0
            Quote: itr
            And how was it cheaper for you?

            What exactly turned out to be cheaper? Gas? If so, then it is more expensive in Norway than in Russia, BUT for an average salary it can be bought almost 2.5 times more than in Russia
      2. Russian
        Russian 30 March 2013 14: 13 New
        +3
        If we had not developed a fishing fleet, the price of this fish would have been much lower! Why not? Well, for example, do you find a Far Eastern crab? Does everything suit you? Perhaps every day you can afford to eat fish?)
        Well, right, now take a look at the map, where it is located, in what latitudes, in our North you know what prices? Take a look too, enlighten)
        As for prices in the rest of Russia, they are growing every year, so we are catching up with Europe, and salaries are much lower.
        Hah, but in general I am amused, they have little left, and here, having paid for housing and communal services, we have a lot of products left for a month?
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 31 March 2013 18: 10 New
          +5
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Well, for example, do you find a Far Eastern crab?

          In 1985, a trial batch of Kamchatka (royal) crab was released in the waters of the Kola Bay ...
          In the spring of 2011, these crabs “dominated” to the southwest of Norway. A local entrepreneur "thrives" in Kirkines, exporting this crab to the countries of the Arabian Peninsula.
          And what about us? ....
          Unfortunately, the waters of the Kola Bay and the White Sea are so polluted that the Kamchatka crab chose those waters that are cleaner.
          Here is a kumake, here is a laugh ...
      3. itkul
        itkul 30 March 2013 14: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: djon3volta
        the question is how to make at least 130 million Russians live like Norwegians?


        For starters, I can at least stop stealing officials. I remember asking my ex-compatriot in Spain why you don’t see super-expensive cars on the streets like in Russia, to which he replied that they had a tax the service will ask questions about what money was bought and why it wasn’t like that. In our city of Murmansk, the head of the housing and communal services cut into Porsche Cayenne and what money he bought it for. It seems that we have a thief sitting on a thief and chasing a thief
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 30 March 2013 14: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: itkul
          tax service questions will appear

          So the tax itself is to go to Kain and Maybach)))) Why is it easier to go outside to go to the tax and see what kind of cars are there and what the employees are driving at, then go to the police and see, etc. And then you will understand why 130 million live worse than in Norway, because the remaining 3-4 million are in power, and the remaining 10 are their families. And no one is fighting and will not fight this corruption, they are all tied together and it scares (((
      4. opkozak
        opkozak 30 March 2013 19: 40 New
        +5
        how to make at least 130 million Russians live like Norwegians?

  4. Kaetani
    Kaetani 30 March 2013 12: 44 New
    +2
    djon3volta So I understand the answer so the answer))))

    The main thing that needs to be taken out of the article is that the Fleet must be developed by all means.
    Icebreaking patrol vessel - Offset. Sight on the Artic
  5. Black
    Black 30 March 2013 14: 27 New
    +1
    Norway is seriously preparing for the division of the North. And he, apparently, did not end.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 March 2013 15: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: Chen
      Norway is seriously preparing for the division of the North.

      And why on these photos did you see one that scared you? A pair of landing barges, a pair of futuristic boats and a military icebreaker.
      1. Babon
        Babon 30 March 2013 15: 22 New
        0
        In fact, they are seriously preparing, and not only Norway. Read here
        http://www.odnako.org/magazine/material/show_24067/
      2. Babon
        Babon 30 March 2013 15: 24 New
        +2
        Hillary Clinton visited the city of Tromsø in northern Norway together with Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Store. At a press conference following this visit, the Norwegian city with a population of 65 thousand people was proclaimed as much as the "capital of the Arctic", and the United States - "the main Arctic state." Despite the fact that from a geographical point of view, Murmansk is the same capital of the Arctic as Tromsø, by 2030 it is planned to build an infrastructure in the Norwegian city that will fill its declared status with actual content. In addition, a more intensive functioning of the Arctic Council will become possible, which is seen by Hillary Clinton as the central body not of oversight, but of management of the entire Arctic. Which now, it turns out, has its own "capital", and the "main state", whose interests, as the head of the Norwegian Foreign Ministry admitted at the same meeting, are dominant.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 30 March 2013 15: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Babon
          Hillary Clinton

          We found someone to listen to, the clowness.
          Quote: Babon
          By 2030, it is planned to build an infrastructure in the Norwegian city, which will allow filling its declared status with actual content.

          What is it that needs to be built so that the town suddenly becomes the capital of the Arctic, is it really a statue of freedom?
          Quote: Babon
          which Hillary Clinton sees as the central authority, not of oversight, but of the management of the entire Arctic.

          In order not to "see" hallucinogenic mushrooms, one must stop eating.
          Quote: Babon
          Which now, it turns out, has its own "capital", and the "main state", whose interests, as the head of the Norwegian Foreign Ministry admitted at the same meeting, are dominant.

          Another authority, damn it.
          1. Babon
            Babon 30 March 2013 17: 22 New
            +4
            These are statements by the US State Department, I just copied their text. These are not mushrooms. in general, they quite seriously say that the northern sea route should be internationally managed, although this is the territorial waters of Russia, it is not for nothing that the Arctic grouping is now expanding. Just follow the news. This authority is representative of one of the NATO countries, if that.
      3. Windbreak
        Windbreak 30 March 2013 18: 06 New
        +1
        Frigates mistaken for barges or boats?
  6. common man
    common man 30 March 2013 15: 38 New
    +4
    I haven’t been to Norway myself, I won’t lie. But here is a firsthand account. 1979 year. A relative of my classmate friend worked in AvtoVAZ service in Norway. There were such. A brief retelling of his letters to them.
    1. In the production at lunch no one goes to the dining room. What would we have in those years, lettuce, soup, the second, a bun with compote is fantastic. They have a maximum, a bun with a bottle of kefir.
    2. Do not buy bread in stores. Expensive. They bake houses themselves from flour.
    3. Everyone dresses, and women, too, in jeans. You will not see dresses or skirts. As a result, gray and monotonous.
    4. Drink alone, in bars, to shit.
    I repeat what I bought for, and for that I sell it. He wrote what he literally remembered from those times. It was more.
    1. itkul
      itkul 30 March 2013 16: 18 New
      0
      Quote: man in the street
      I haven’t been to Norway myself, I won’t lie.


      Well, read the reviews of real people, in twenty years a lot has changed

      http://forum.aves-peugeot.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51934

      http://motomurmansk.0pk.ru/viewtopic.php?id=1806

      http://story.travel.mail.ru/norway/
      1. common man
        common man 31 March 2013 10: 18 New
        0
        Well, read the reviews of real people

        Sorry, I didn’t understand what you wanted to say. I tell you about how the workers lived in Norway in the late 70s, a look from the inside. And you tell me what beautiful places there are, and the tourist service is wonderful. So am I arguing? And they live well there. Only sparingly.
        1. itkul
          itkul 31 March 2013 17: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: man in the street
          didn't understand what you meant by that


          Yes, I wanted to tell you that a lot has changed, and what happened in the late 70s, and what they and we now have, alas, not in our favor. You kind of compared the lives of them and us
    2. Babon
      Babon 30 March 2013 17: 29 New
      0
      Yes, you’re right, before the collapse of the USSR, they had everything like that, wooden piers, old boats, not very high earnings, but from the 90s they had dramatic changes.
    3. Yankuz
      Yankuz 30 March 2013 19: 44 New
      +2
      I was there - in 2000 - the beautiful nature there! Highly! Mountains (black granite), fjords, spruce, mountain lakes ... The truth is beautiful!
  7. region34
    region34 30 March 2013 17: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Atrix
    And look how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway and you will be very surprised
    and do not forget to subtract taxes from this average salary (something like 60% and all sorts of other payments) and recount again
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 30 March 2013 17: 32 New
      0
      Quote: region34
      Quote: Atrix
      And look how much you can buy the same gasoline for the average salary in Norway and you will be very surprised
      and do not forget to subtract taxes from this average salary (something like 60% and all sorts of other payments) and recount again

      Learn to read, all data is indicated on the net salary (after taxes), and not on the dirty. So there is no need to lead people astray
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 30 March 2013 18: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Atrix
        Learn to read, all data is indicated on the net salary (after taxes), and not on the dirty.

        but where is the evidence of the words that I quoted?

        region34he’s lying about this Atrix, you just have to look carefully at the table. The prices and salaries are approximately the same, that's right ..BUT, I specially keep silent for now, listen to what Atrix will say.
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 30 March 2013 18: 14 New
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          Quote: djon3volta
          but where is the evidence of the words that I quoted?

          Shi_zik what are you talking about? Or should I look for evidence of your delirium?

          http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Norwa
          y & country2 = Russia
          ____________Norway _________Russia
          Monthly average one-time salary (after tax) $ 4,279.94 ____ $ 707.79
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta 30 March 2013 19: 30 New
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            well now i and more wassat the more dirt pours on me, then I'm doing everything right! good
            êàî on your link is nothing niznayu you and how there is not necessary any podschityval.fignyu podsovyavat me.
            look at your table about gas prices and how much can you buy - the average income in Russia is 770 liters? dollars? (It turns out $ 770, then Putin doesn’t lie), $ 770 x 30 rubles (for 1 liter) = 23100 rubles. true ? After all, in Russia $ 700-800 is the average income? Am I right? Well they say that the same is in your table. 1 liter in Russia costs 30 rubles, that means 1 dollar, right? Well, how wrong? Right. Agree? laughing but that’s not the point, that’s not the point, but the fact is that if they bring the average earnings in the country, then they don’t make any deductions, you know? no? average salary of 147303 rubles, that is, $ 4900 well, let’s 5 thousand a month, agree? but now, from the average income of 5 thousand bucks, take away their tax? don’t be afraid to take away at least 36%, there will be 3300 bucks from 5 thousand, then pay for utilities their rates, and they are much higher than Russian.
            so you give rotten calculations this time, the second is that not 100% of the population receives 5 thousand bucks a month, keep in mind there are their beggars with 1000-2000 bucks, and who also buy gasoline and pay for utilities and hawking.

            come in not too lazy http://dalniestrany.ru/norvegiya-tseny and think again, what is the point of having 3-5 thousand bucks at these prices for a living.

            it would be better if in Norway you have $ 5 a month, in Russia 15-20 thousand rubles a month - I don’t see any difference. Notice, in Russia there are salaries in 30-50 thousand, and believe in 50 thousand in Russia you can’t to live, it’s much sweeter than 5 thousand in Norway. Still do not understand? Well then I don’t know ...
            1. Atrix
              Atrix 30 March 2013 19: 41 New
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              You're a deer full of what are you then do not take taxes from Russian salaries?
              And I already told you the average salary in Norway after tax is 3300 EUR. Gasoline price 1.87EUR Can you calculate how much you can buy?
              In short, go finish school
  8. itkul
    itkul 30 March 2013 18: 28 New
    +3
    By the way, who wants a pension of 700 euros per month, there is an option
    quote

    a foreigner imprisoned in Norway accumulates “pension money”. Aggravated killing is usually punishable by a ten-year term - this is enough to get a minimum Norwegian pension of about 700 euros per month upon release, hundreds of foreign bandits have already taken this opportunity.

    http://www.newizv.ru/world/2012-02-21/159563-mafija-s-inostrannym-akcentom.html
    1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
      Mihaylo Tishayshiy 31 March 2013 14: 05 New
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      Very useful information good . 10 years before retirement, I’ll probably fall for the Vikings, I’ll kill some Viking angry and calmly retire. drinks
  9. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 30 March 2013 20: 17 New
    +4
    It is high time to put Norway in its place. We got to pinch our fishermen. A couple of boats have been built and are being driven out. To beat back at least one Russian fishing vessel harshly from them, shmalnuyut a couple of times on them and immediately arrogance to catch! I do not understand they constantly seize our ships, but what are we waiting for? Where is the adequate answer? Not in the statements of Lavrov, Mead and others, but really adequate with broken "noses", punched sides))), etc.
  10. k-yu
    k-yu 31 March 2013 14: 28 New
    +1
    there are icebreakers in the service of our armies (Ruslan, Sadko, etc.), they really are not so handsome ...
  11. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 31 March 2013 18: 32 New
    +6
    1. Thanks to the site administration for putting such an article
    2. The forum should have a military-political one, but 90% of comments are in a completely different direction.
    3. Where are you, our smart and competent "specialists" with comments on the capabilities of the Norwegian Navy? Where is the assessment of surface and submarine ships, aviation? After all, this is our "neighbor" blocking our Northern Fleet's access to the Atlantic?
    Instead, we again hear screams about "Geyrop", "decaying bourgeoisie", crappy education, lawlessness in juvenile justice ...
    4. Remember M. Zhvanetsky of the early 90s: "Stop looking at the world through the eyes of Senkevich ..." So let's not refer to Google and Yandex from OBS even now (one grandmother said). Norway, Sweden, Finland can be traveled by car in a couple of days. People in Scandinavia know English quite well. Take a trip and chat. See how the country lives, half of whose territory is located beyond the Arctic Circle. You will see, after Murmansk, you will be pleasantly surprised, in a good way.

    Respectfully to all
    hi
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 1 2013 01: 28 New
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      Quote: stalkerwalker
      with comments on Norwegian Navy capabilities? Where is the assessment of ships surface and underwater, aviation?

      I'm not naval, so briefly.
      The fleet is small, but modern and efficient.
      Composition-6 diesel submarines of the Ula type. The boats are not new (late 80s-early 90s), but quite quiet, plus have recently undergone modernization.
      5 Nansen-class frigates. New, very good. The main locator is the same as on Orly Burks (only smaller), vertical missile launcher, stealth elements. The project is based on the European frigate F-100.
      6 Sklod missile boats. Norwegians qualify them as corvettes. New, super fast, stealth elements, good weapons.
      7 minesweepers of the 90s, 1 mine-layer, 14 patrol vessels (all new)
      Developed basing system. The main base at Bergen (along the Faroese anti-submarine line)
      6 American Orion anti-submarine aircraft (as part of the Air Force)
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      After all, this is our "neighbor" blocking our Northern Fleet's access to the Atlantic?

      This task is primarily assigned to the US and British Navy, but both Nansen and Ula are constantly attracted to NATO forces. Of course, Norwegian bases and anti-submarine Orions will also be used.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 2 2013 11: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: Odyssey
        I'm not naval, so briefly

        Thank you.
        The short answer, no frills - infa issued, then think for yourself ....

        Why did I register this here ...

        On the forum about the "revival" of the "titanium" fleet, I just "stumbled" on hurray-patriotic chatter, etc.
  12. Kir
    Kir April 2 2013 19: 10 New
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    It is amazing that the naked photo compilation caused so many comments, moreover, from other operas.