Use of powerful combat lasers, placed on aircraft carriers, against enemy personnel and equipment

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Use of powerful combat lasers, placed on aircraft carriers, against enemy personnel and equipment

Use a megawatt-class laser on individual fighters?

Absurd! It's like shooting sparrows with a cannon!



And if you use such a laser against tank?

Even worse, there are currently no combat lasers that can burn through tank armor, and there are no plans for them to appear in the foreseeable future.

This means that the use of powerful combat lasers placed on aviation carriers, in terms of enemy manpower and equipment, it makes no sense? Should we disperse?

Let's not rush to conclusions. First, let's look at why lasers are used to destroy ground targets at all?

Positional impasse


Is it not enough that the Armed Forces (AF) have for the existing weapons to destroy ground targets – artillery, multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), tanks, infantry fighting vehicles (IFV), armored personnel carriers, small arms of all types, FPV-drones and so on, and so on?

It has long been no secret that the situation that has developed on the combat contact line (CCL) in the area of ​​the special military operation (SMO) in Ukraine is more reminiscent of the positional battles of the First World War (WWI) than the maneuverable combat operations of the Second World War (WWII).


LBS in Ukraine is shifting very slowly. Image opermap.mash.ru

The main means of disrupting the enemy's mechanized offensive have become kamikaze unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), primarily numerous FPV drones, especially now that models with fiber optic control have appeared, which cannot be suppressed by electronic warfare (EW).

At the same time, the basis for the stability of the ground forces of the warring parties is the provision of supplies and rotation of personnel - without this, the defense begins to "fall apart". The supply problem cannot be solved with drones alone, not to mention the rotation of personnel.

If you look at the offensive being carried out by the Russian Armed Forces, you can see how difficult it is to cut off the supply routes even of those enemy strongholds or settlements occupied by the enemy that are already largely surrounded. If there is at least some road, even the smallest loophole, then the enemy will try to supply its fighters, ensuring their ability to resist, until the encirclement is closed.


The enclave captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region – despite its small size, it has not yet been possible to drive the enemy out of it.

This is a consequence of the inertia of reconnaissance and strike circuits, when the detected enemy cannot be attacked and destroyed in the same second. All types of destructive ammunition require time to approach the target - shells, rockets, mortar mines, FPV drones.

But a laser beam does not have such inertia – a detected target can be attacked immediately, instantly, at a speed of three hundred thousand (300) kilometers per second.

Why do we need an airborne laser?

Because of the curvature of the earth's surface, any ground laser will have a very limited range of operation against ground targets. Even if you raise the radiation source on some tower, for example, to a height of about 50 meters, the laser range will in any case be only 30 kilometers, which is significantly less than that of modern artillery systems, MLRS and UAVs of various types.

As for aircraft carriers, anti-aircraft missile systems with a range of about 100-180 kilometers can operate against them, that is, to ensure the safety of the carrier, it must operate from a range of about 200 kilometers or more.


The longest-range Ukrainian Patriot air defense system can operate against high-altitude air targets at a distance of about 100-180 kilometers


Megawatt-class laser will be able to engage targets from a safe distance

Is this even feasible?

To understand this, let's consider what types of targets we are going to attack with a laser.

Ground targets for laser weapons


So, we plan to use a combat laser against ground targets to isolate the combat zone. We consider disruption of the enemy's rotation and supply to be the main method of isolation.

Rotation and supply are most often carried out by wheeled transport moving on public roads, since other types of terrain can be mined by the enemy, and remotely. By the way, we previously considered one of the promising methods of remote mining in the material "Farming" on the Ka-52: operational laying of minefields from combat helicopters to isolate the combat zone.

Accordingly, our main target will be wheeled transport. Even if the enemy uses armored MRAPs, they all have vulnerable points - chassis, driver's cabin, radiator grille.

When exposed to powerful laser radiation, rubber tires will quickly become unusable, even if they are equipped with a RunFlat system, and an intense fire of tires is also possible - if they are not quickly extinguished, the car will burst into flames after them, burning tires have a very high calorific value.


Impact in the area of ​​the engine radiator can cause it to overheat and fail, with corresponding consequences for the engine. However, here the enemy can start to apply protection, for example, by installing a sufficiently thick steel sheet at a distance of half a meter from the radiator.

As for the driver's cabin, everything is quite sad here - the impact of powerful laser radiation on open areas of the body will instantly cause fourth-degree burns and death from pain shock, and it is possible that the radiation power will also cause damage to internal organs.

Is there any way to protect yourself from this?

You can try, for example, by completely removing the glass and driving using the image received from external video cameras. However, this will only be a delay - you can implement the laser operating mode in the "scanning" mode, when it will scan the target several times, sequentially passing over its surface, as a result of which all cameras will be destroyed or damaged, and further movement will become impossible.


MRAP and its areas vulnerable to high-power laser radiation

Stopped vehicles can be subjected to additional laser irradiation in order to ensure their ignition, and dismounted enemy soldiers can also be attacked - with sufficiently effective guidance systems, they have virtually no chance of escaping.

By the way, laser radiation can also be used to attack highly protected tracked vehicles. Firstly, the same driver observation devices, and secondly, any points where it is possible to cause a fire or overheating.

Creating fire sources is a universal method of combating any ground combat equipment. It is extremely difficult to make sure that any machine does not have flammable components - paint, rubber seals, plastic, wiring sheaths and much more.

Car owners know how quickly a car can burn out in the event of any, even the most minor, fire, due to some internal causes - damaged wiring, oil leakage or some types of antifreeze. What can we say about when a high-power laser beam "searches" the car body, looking for any potential sources of fire.


It is practically impossible to protect foot soldiers from powerful laser weapons.

The question is that in order to work on ground targets, they must first be detected.

Eagle's eye


As always, one man is no warrior. The aircraft carrying the laser weapon must operate within the framework of a single reconnaissance and strike circuit (RUK), however, this does not eliminate the need to install highly effective reconnaissance equipment on it.

Essentially, we face two main tasks:
- primary detection of the enemy;
- additional search and targeting of the laser beam at the enemy.


Accordingly, the initial detection of the enemy can be carried out by fighters, as well as by tactical-class reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), with subsequent transmission of the coordinates and direction of movement of the enemy.

It should be noted here that the ability to work on the enemy with a laser does not at all exclude the need to use other available means of destruction. As always, the question lies in the plane of expediency and effectiveness, and first of all in which of the available weapons can be used faster.

It can be assumed that one of the most effective methods of primary detection of the enemy could be the Tu-214R integrated radio-technical and optical reconnaissance aircraft.


Integrated electronic and optical reconnaissance aircraft Tu-214R

We have been talking about the feasibility of using these machines since the very beginning of the SVO; the first mentions of Tu-214R aircraft being used in the SVO zone appeared approximately seven months after its beginning, which we discussed in the article "Tu-214R" in a special military operation in Ukraine: less than a year has passedThere was no further information about the use of these aircraft, either they did not justify themselves, or everything was very secret.

Of course, everything here depends on the effectiveness of the Tu-214R side-view radar, or more precisely, on its ability to detect enemy transport at a distance of about 200-250 kilometers. If this is possible, then the Tu-214R aircraft will be able to effectively operate in conjunction with aircraft carrying laser weapons, even without guidance from the ground or from UAVs.

Another option is to place suspended containers with side-looking radars directly on the aircraft themselves - carriers of laser weapons. It seems that we have such containers - these are containers of the "Sych" family, in particular, the side-looking radar is installed in the "UKR-RL" container. Again, here everything depends on the operating range and resolution of the said container.


Sych family containers on the M-55 Geofizika high-altitude aircraft

Of course, one might assume that a separate aircraft with a powerful radar and qualified operators on board would be preferable.

But the additional search and guidance of the laser beam can only be carried out directly from the aircraft - the carrier of the laser weapon. For this, a powerful unique optical-electronic system (OES) must be placed on it, comparable in characteristics to those installed on optical reconnaissance satellites.

Modern optical reconnaissance satellites equipped with meter-diameter lenses are capable of obtaining an image of the earth's surface with a resolution of several tens of centimeters from an orbit at an altitude of about a thousand kilometers. Accordingly, a similar OES placed on an airplane will be able to obtain an image with a resolution of several centimeters from a distance of several hundred kilometers, which will allow for highly efficient target identification and laser beam guidance to their vulnerable zones.


Optical reconnaissance satellite "Yantar-2K"

Considering the expected dimensions of the optical system of such an OES, it will be placed inside the fuselage with windows on each side, that is, observation and guidance will be carried out perpendicular to the direction of the aircraft's flight, on the pass. Accordingly, combat work will also be carried out - the aircraft carrying the laser weapon will draw "eights", working alternately with the right and left sides.

As is already clear from the dimensions of the optics, a transport aircraft will act as a carrier; in addition, a laser placed on an aircraft carrier, which can operate at a range of several hundred kilometers, must have the necessary power for this, which also determines the choice of a transport aircraft as a carrier.

What power should a laser have to be able to operate on ground targets from a distance of several hundred kilometers?

Megawatt class


Yes, to hit ground targets at a range of several hundred kilometers, a laser with a power of about one megawatt (MW) or more will most likely be required; we recently looked at the prospects of this direction in the article “Airborne Megawatt-Class Combat Lasers: Who Will Be First – the US or Russia?? '.

The American air-based laser system Boeing YAL-1 with an expected laser power of up to 14 MW was supposed to ensure the destruction of launching ballistic missiles at a range of 500-600 kilometers, but, having an actual power of about 1 MW, ensured the destruction of training targets at a range of about 100-250 kilometers.


Boeing YAL-1

Even though the targets were training, they were still high-speed, accelerating targets, cooled by the oncoming air flow, possibly rotating.

According to open data, by using adaptive optics, the Americans managed to focus a combat laser beam to the size of a basketball at a range of 250 kilometers. The diameter of a basketball is 25,4 centimeters, that is, for a laser with a power of 1 MW, the specific power will be about 6 kilowatts (kW) per square centimeter (cm2).

As a result of losses in the atmosphere, the actual power will be lower, but even with a twofold decrease, one can imagine the result of even a short-term impact of radiation with a specific power of 3 kW per cm2 and a total power of about half a megawatt on military equipment or the human body.

Conclusions


The use of megawatt-class combat lasers, placed on aircraft carriers, against ground targets will ensure the isolation of the combat zone by disrupting the rotation and supply of the enemy.

The use of such weapons will have a monstrous psychological effect, causing the enemy to abandon their positions or surrender.


When in the kill zone of such a laser complex, the enemy will be able to provide rotation and supply only in very bad weather conditions, and the main problem will not be the drop in the power of the laser beam, but its precise guidance using high-resolution OES from on board the carrier aircraft.

Of course, the enemy will try to counteract laser weapons, for example, by hiding behind smoke, but this in itself will significantly slow down its speed of movement and make it vulnerable to other means of destruction, such as MLRS or barrel artillery, and will increase the likelihood of leaving the route or ending up in minefields.

It is possible that the main obstacle to the creation of megawatt-class laser weapons on aircraft carriers is the author’s excessive optimism about our achievements in this direction; otherwise, everything presented in this material is entirely feasible.


Image from the patent of a promising Russian aircraft carrying laser weapons

Surely someone can say that the use of high-power laser weapons is inhumane, especially against enemy manpower?

Well, tell about humanism to the residents of Kursk Oblast, who were buried alive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers in Sudzha, or to the women and girls who were raped and brutally murdered by mercenaries and Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers in Kursk Oblast, and in other regions where our enemies have been. Or maybe it is humane to use thermobaric munitions against the enemy or to scatter burning thermite mixtures on positions?

War is not about humanism, but about efficiency and expediency. There is no doubt that the enemy would immediately use such a weapon against us if he had it.

A megawatt-class laser on an aircraft carrier as part of a reconnaissance and strike contour could potentially ensure a breakthrough of the enemy's defense at any point where it appears. Just as Ukraine now freezes at the takeoff of carriers of the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in anticipation of an inevitable and irresistible strike, the very information about the appearance of a combat laser operating on ground targets in one or another section of the LBS will lead to the collapse of the enemy's defense.

It is unlikely that such a weapon will be created before the end of the Second World War, but there is no doubt that we will definitely need it in future wars and armed conflicts.
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  1. +12
    4 March 2025 03: 40
    And I liked it:
    It is unlikely that such a weapon will be created before the end of the Second World War., however, there is no doubt that we will definitely need it in future wars and armed conflicts.

    Our existing, tested developments are struggling to reach the consumer, and then this fantastic laser...
    War is not about humanism, but about efficiency and expediency. There is no doubt that the enemy would immediately use such a weapon against us if he had it.

    But here I can't help but agree... There's one catch, our government doesn't think that a good Nazi is a dead Nazi. We can't even apply an effective measure (IMSZ) against this scum...
    * * *
    Dreaming is not bad ...
    1. +6
      4 March 2025 14: 24
      There is no need to read this fairy-tale nonsense. A person who has no idea about modern combat operations is still thinking about something based on the SVO. There are no modern BDs in the SVO, yes, some elements are visible, but this is more in spite of, and not thanks to. We only had 2 Tu-214R aircraft with an unfinished, or rather truncated reconnaissance complex.
      Assault operations with drones falling on your head is the insanity of the SVO, this is not a modern war, this is extermination. It's just that generals who are incapable of anything and know nothing have been able to offer the Russian Armed Forces anything since 1991. They are doing anything but creating a modern army...
  2. kig
    -4
    4 March 2025 04: 14
    Excellent, magnificent, extraordinary idea. What a pity that the author does not work (serve) in the RF Ministry of Defense
    1. +15
      4 March 2025 05: 01
      What a pity that the author does not work (serve) in the Russian Ministry of Defense
      There you need to go through a medical examination with a psychiatrist.
      In this case, the author of more than four hundred publications of the VO may be hospitalized during the above-mentioned medical examination, in connection with a sharp "spring laser exacerbation".
      And in general, it’s a pity that the author is not undergoing the medical care he absolutely needs.
      1. +11
        4 March 2025 05: 57
        Quote: Wildcat
        And in general, it’s a pity that the author is not undergoing the medical care he absolutely needs.

        It's a pity that the author doesn't know physics at least at the level of a high school. Then he would know that in order to boil 1 liter of water, more than 4 megajoules of energy are needed. That is, for this, a megawatt laser must discharge ALL its energy within at least four seconds. And taking into account scattering and losses on the highway, this time should increase tenfold. And where will the instant burns of the driver or instant damage to the tires come from? And aluminum food foil, sold in any grocery store, serves as protection from such a laser.
        1. +9
          4 March 2025 06: 02
          And aluminum food foil, sold in any grocery store, serves as protection from such a laser.
          I kindly ask you not to suggest ideas for articles to the author. lol
          There is already a risk that tomorrow the author will publish an article on the topic "For every tricky laser there is a foil", with patterns for protective clothing made from foil... wassat And maybe he will manage to make a helmet and cuirass out of foil by the morning of 05.03.25/XNUMX/XNUMX, and illustrate his creation with them... soldier
          1. +2
            4 March 2025 07: 04
            https://dzen.ru/video/watch/6165871bca958f675b9d8c97[media=https://dzen.ru/video/watch/6165871bca958f675b9d8c97]
            Lasers have been cutting foil perfectly for decades. Even the weakest ones.
            1. +5
              4 March 2025 07: 19
              Well, yes, in a spot with a diameter of ten microns. But the essence of my phrase is different. The reflection coefficient of aluminum, as any reference book on physics will tell you, is 0.8-0.95. That is, less than 10% of the energy will be absorbed by the foil, the rest will be dissipated uselessly. And that means we are no longer talking about megawatts of impact, but about hundreds of kilowatts.
              1. 0
                4 March 2025 07: 41
                If the laser power increases, the foil will become thick aluminum armor.
                It's easier to cover with PVC - a thousand times cheaper
              2. +5
                4 March 2025 07: 43
                Add.
                You are not taking into account the required energy density. If you want a beam of 1 mm diameter to have the same effect as a beam of 10 microns, then the laser power will have to be increased ten thousand times. And your 1 watt engraver laser that cuts foil will have to be turned into a ten kilowatt laser.
                1. 0
                  5 March 2025 05: 35
                  I’ll add smile
                  And if you want your laser to also cut foil with ease ( wink ) in a spot 100 mm in diameter (and to get this at distances of several kilometers is already a feat), then the laser power will have to be increased another ten thousand times. The laser will have to be made at 100 megawatts.
          2. +2
            4 March 2025 11: 31
            Quote: Wildcat
            I kindly ask you not to suggest ideas for articles to the author.
            There is already a risk that tomorrow the author will publish an article on the topic "For every tricky laser there is a foil", with patterns for protective clothing made of foil... Or maybe he will manage to make a helmet and cuirass from foil by the morning of 05.03.25/XNUMX/XNUMX, and illustrate his creation with them...

            But you are right! The threat you mentioned from A. Mitrofanov is quite real and expected!
        2. +5
          4 March 2025 08: 59
          Quote: Cube123
          Then he would know that in order to boil 1 liter of water, more than 4 megajoules of energy are needed.

          You are very, very wrong.
          To boil 1 liter of water in a 2 kW electric kettle, you will need approximately 0,1 kW h of electricity 4.
          For calculation, you can use the formula: Q = c * m * ΔT, where Q is the amount of heat (in kJ), c is the specific heat capacity of water (4,18 kJ/kg*°C), m is the mass of water (1 kg), ΔT is the change in temperature (100°C - 20°C = 80°C) 4. Substituting the values, we get: Q = 4,18 * 1 * 80 = 334,4 kJ
          Now you need to convert kJ to kWh 4. 1 kW h is equal to 3600 kJ 4. Therefore, to boil 1 liter of water you will need: 334,4 kJ / 3600 kJ/kWh ≈ 0,093 kWh

          Therefore, to boil a liter in a second, you need to supply 3600*0,093 = 334,4 kW/s. The laser power is calculated per second, which means that to boil a liter with a megawatt, in ideal conditions, it will take a third of a second.
          But the author's idea is so-so.
          1. +1
            4 March 2025 09: 29
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            But the author's idea is so-so.

            You are right. I looked in the wrong column of the directory. lol A standard physics problem for grades 5-9: "What amount of energy must be expended to bring 5 kg of water, taken at a temperature of 0 °C, to a boil and evaporate it?" That is, a calculation taking into account the heat of evaporation. The temperature of the water does not increase after it starts boiling:
        3. +1
          4 March 2025 10: 04
          That's right:))) The author can be given an idea for new fantasy comics, for example, "ultrasonic wave covering enemy fortified areas, and the enemy's pituitary and hypothalamus injuries are incompatible with life
        4. 0
          5 March 2025 20: 14
          Yes, yes, and drones were funny toys for people like you for many years, but now lasers are not serious weapons in your opinion.
        5. 0
          6 March 2025 09: 22
          heating water from 0 to 100°C requires 420 kJ of energy. What Mega?? The specific heat capacity of water is 4,2 kJ/(kg*K). Metals have tens of times less. This means less energy is required. So when focusing a beam into a small diameter spot, destroying enemy objects is no longer a fantasy...
      2. 0
        5 March 2025 20: 12
        I remember similarly witty comments were once left here about drones. Like, funny toys, no one needs them... we remember, we remember.
  3. +6
    4 March 2025 04: 53
    A super-duper laser from an airplane is a strange thing.
    An aerosol cloud (or just a cloud in the path of the beam) and there is no longer any point.
    And what’s more important, the same megalaser on a tank or air defense system will work much better against an aircraft (let’s say an air defense system may have armor (go ahead and burn it through), but an aircraft practically has foil).
    But as a short-range air defense for the aircraft itself, it’s not bad.
    Shoot down missiles.

    Another thing is that the article should be about "how it can be done". And as for "ololo pyshchpyshch it's real!", even a kindergartener can explain this (especially if they've already watched Star Wars).
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  5. -1
    4 March 2025 06: 15
    The whole problem is in the remaining civilians in the occupied areas. Another problem is the lack of military solutions that would allow the captured territories to be liberated in a short time. There is no so-called brainstorming.
    And then someone alone must lead the combat operations and manage the reserves. But it looks like they are commanding by phone from the General Staff, and no one bears personal responsibility.
    We here on the academy website did not graduate, but we feel that something is wrong. And victory is needed more than ever, with what feeling will we watch the parade on May 9 when for almost a year we have not been able to free the regional center with people languishing in captivity.
  6. +5
    4 March 2025 08: 02
    and what is the absorption of the laser by the atmosphere? 200 km of the densest layers is a serious obstacle even without any clouds, at least the sun when overhead at midday in the summer, is very hot, since the layer of the atmosphere on its path is thin, at the same time during sunset, almost the entire spectrum is absorbed except for red and it can be seen with the naked eye precisely because of the very large thickness of the atmosphere that the rays have to overcome....
    1. +2
      4 March 2025 08: 28
      Quote: Max-1984
      and what is the laser absorption of the atmosphere?

      It's not just absorption that affects it. You've probably seen oscillating mirages appearing over very hot soil. This is turbulence caused by the mixing of air flows with different temperatures. Even a perfectly focused beam, at one kilometer, this effect will spread to several meters in diameter. Ask the snipers how much this bothers them.
      1. +7
        4 March 2025 11: 11
        Quote: Cube123
        Surely you have seen oscillating mirages appearing over very hot soil. This is turbulence caused by the mixing of air flows with different temperatures. Even a perfectly focused beam, already at one kilometer this effect will spread to several meters in diameter.

        Powerful laser beams have another problem - they themselves change the refractive index of the medium in which they propagate. In principle, any light beam does this, but at low powers the effects can still be neglected. But at hundreds of kW and MW, complete nonlinearity begins - up to self-focusing of the beam due to the formation of a lens in the medium (due to the uneven distribution of power over the cross section - "bell"). Wanted to hit the target - but as a result, the air was set on fire halfway, after which the beam dissipated. smile
        1. +3
          4 March 2025 14: 19
          Quote: Alexey RA
          But at hundreds of kW and MW, complete nonlinearity begins - right up to self-focusing of the beam due to the formation of a lens in the medium.

          There are more complex and interesting effects, like wave front reversal. A stunning, beautiful idea. B.Ya. Zeldovich was involved in this.
          "Wave Front Reversal"
          http://prometheus.al.ru/phisik/obrwavr.htm
          Source: IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE - 1986/2
  7. 0
    4 March 2025 08: 18
    Lots of... words! But the main thing is that war is not about humanism. We must kill the "green muck" with everything we have!
    1. +1
      4 March 2025 09: 00
      In order to burn out the optics of a surveillance device, a combat laser must be somewhere inside the viewing angle of this device, this means that if you have a TV camera with a long-focus lens and a viewing angle of 4*, then the laser must be inside this angle, by the way, if you make surveillance devices for the ultraviolet spectrum, then the diameter of the lens can be reduced to 2-3 mm, and the size of the camera will be the size of a short pencil and there can be many such cameras on a tank, more than one.
  8. 0
    4 March 2025 08: 58
    Well, have you read about lasers that destroy tanks and infantry from a distance of 200 km? Have a rest.
    Now grab your Kalashnikovs and head into the trench.
    Stop dreaming.
  9. +3
    4 March 2025 09: 29
    This is no longer a "military review", but "unbridled fantasy". I will not juggle megawatts and other science, I will focus on physics "in everyday life", so to speak. Firstly, in order to use a laser (maser, phaser and other "turbolasers" and "disruptors") it is necessary to be in direct line of sight from the target - over-the-horizon or mortar shooting with beams of any energy is impossible. Secondly, the duration of the beam pulse increases with the distance from the target - the further the target, the more energy is needed to form and maintain the beam. Thirdly, the effect of the beam energy flow can be effectively neutralized by means of the simplest passive protection - special means of setting up smoke interference (from simple smoke to special compounds) coupled with maneuvering and active counteraction. To be honest, then for combat use it would be necessary to launch a "star destroyer" or a "death star" from orbit into the atmosphere. Does anyone remember the orbital parameters of the nearest "destroyer"?
  10. 0
    4 March 2025 10: 52
    The use of lasers is a very good thing, but probably in a different context))) less fantastic.
    Now there is a very serious problem in the form of enemy drones flying to the central regions, the destruction of such a drone with a SAM or air-to-air missile is insanely expensive, tens of times more expensive, it would be reasonable to place a fiber optic laser in a container with optics optimized for a range of 1-2 kilometers and destroy these drones with an energy consumption of less than 1 kilowatt hour per target. There will be no need to make approaches to the target with a salvo of GSh-30 cannon. And reflectors will not help much here - only the EPR of the drones will increase tens of times ...
  11. DO
    +1
    4 March 2025 11: 06
    An effective weapon for working against equipment and manpower in the SVO already exists and is widely used - these are drones.
    But the Russian Armed Forces have a problem with selective weapons against Starlink satellites used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces for communications and control of the BEC. There are not enough missiles for 7 thousand satellites. Detonating nuclear charges in orbit, without a highly probable threat of the enemy using nuclear weapons, is not entirely adequate for political reasons. Will megawatt-class lasers on aircraft carriers be operational for disabling Starlink satellites? Will the main energy of the laser beam be absorbed by the atmosphere? This question, of course, is for the relevant specialists.
    1. +2
      4 March 2025 12: 13
      Quote: DO
      There aren't enough rockets for 7 thousand satellites.

      Are all 7 thousand satellites simultaneously flying in space above, for example, the North-Eastern Military District theater of operations? Or no, not 7 thousand? How many satellites are simultaneously rotating above the North-Eastern Military District? Above 50% of the North-Eastern Military District zone? Starlink is primarily radio emission! Is it possible to jam the receiving channels of "starlinks" with radars? How is this attributed to the Crimean "SuperREB", which supposedly successfully affects NATO "radar" satellites? Of course, we can talk about the possibility of improving (even radically) the likeness of the Crimean "radio dome"!
      1. DO
        +3
        4 March 2025 12: 56
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Is it that all 7 thousand satellites are simultaneously flying in space above, for example, the SVO theater of military operations?

        The minimum angle of visibility of the Starlink satellite from the terminal is 25°. The orbital altitude of Starlink satellites is 328-550 km (LEO, most satellites) and 550-1150 km (MEO, for covering the Arctic and Antarctic). Therefore, most orbits in which Starlink satellites revolve around the Earth are accessible from the SVO zone in Ukraine and the Black Sea.
        Because the density of Starlink satellites in orbit is high, what matters is the reach of the ground terminal of the orbits, not the individual satellites flying over them.

        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Is it possible to jam the receiving channels of "starlinks" with radars?

        New Starlink satellites and terminals use antennas with AFAR. The diameter of the satellite's radio beam on the ground is from 24 to 70 km, depending on the beam's tilt angle. Therefore, if the Starlink terminal is located in the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it is very difficult to jam it, unless you hit the side lobes of the antennas with a powerful directional jammer.
        1. 0
          4 March 2025 19: 27
          Thanks for the clarification! hi .................................................. ..........................................
  12. -1
    4 March 2025 11: 13
    Russian storytellers "effective managers"...!
  13. +4
    4 March 2025 11: 26
    The diameter of a basketball is 25,4 centimeters, so for a 1 MW laser the specific power would be about 6 kilowatts (kW) per square centimeter (cm2).
    The author has some problems with school mathematics. The area of ​​a circle with a diameter of 25,4 cm will be equal to Pi * D ^ 2 / 4, respectively, it will be 3,14 * 25,4 * 25,4 / 4 = 506,4 sq. cm.
    1 MW/ 506,4 sq. cm will be 1,97 kW per sq. cm. That is, three times less.
  14. +3
    4 March 2025 11: 30
    The boys sitting in the trenches read another Mitrofanism about powerful lasers, then sat on donkeys and went to deliver soup to the neighboring trench
  15. +1
    4 March 2025 13: 03
    The Americans had a laser on the plane.
    They refused due to the monstrous cost and vulnerability of the carrier.
    200 km is good, but what will prevent the enemy from shooting down the carrier aircraft at these ranges?
    And the system also depends on the weather. Fog, clouds.
    The idea is not new, but utopian, in the version proposed by the author.
    The laser is used to disable (expose) TV and video matrices.
    That's all he can do for now.
    1. +6
      4 March 2025 14: 00
      Quote: 26_Sergey_26
      They refused due to the monstrous cost and vulnerability of the carrier.

      And not even because of that, although you are absolutely right about the high cost and vulnerability. But because humanity has not yet invented batteries that would allow an airplane to give the laser the required power.
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        9 March 2025 16: 48
        The plane has at least a couple of engines that produce a dozen and a half megawatts each in nominal power. A modern megawatt-class generator is a couple of hundred kilograms...
        1. +1
          9 March 2025 17: 38
          Quote: bootlegger
          The aircraft has at least a couple of engines, each producing a dozen and a half megawatts nominally.

          Tell that to the Americans, because the poor things never managed to squeeze a 747 mW laser into a Boeing 14. They made do with a one-megawatt one.
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            9 March 2025 17: 41
            Who argues?
            I'm talking about megawatts. For 14 you'll need an additional engine and a generator of several tons.
            1. +1
              9 March 2025 17: 55
              Quote: bootlegger
              I'm talking about megawatts. For 14 you'll need an additional engine and a generator of several tons.

              Even a megawatt laser is not powered directly by the engines
            2. 0
              11 March 2025 23: 45
              Another nuance: even with an efficiency of 95%, the remaining energy needs to be put somewhere. And when it is released in a pulse... half a megawatt in a fraction of a second, does that remind you of anything?
              1. 0
                Yesterday, 10: 23
                Well, we are not in space, there is a working fluid for cooling. The efficiency of modern turbofan engines reaches 60-70% and somehow they cope with cooling. I am not even talking about liquid rocket engines.....
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                  Yesterday, 17: 09
                  Не путайте теплое с мягким. Все излишки тепла в указанных вами конструкциях выносятся с рабочим телом. Запустите ЖРД в помещении и увидите результат.
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                    Yesterday, 22: 34
                    И в авиационной пушке тоже?
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                Yesterday, 10: 41
                Общая теплоотдача GAU-8 Avenger в режиме непрерывной стрельбы достигает 30–40 МДж/с. Это эквивалентно мощности 30–40 МВт — достаточно, чтобы за несколько секунд расплавить сотни килограммов стали.
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    4 March 2025 13: 14
    Of course, talk about laser aircraft guns, flying like flies here and there, is currently worthy of the inhabitants of the "famous" "canal dacha"! But what the hell is not joking while the Lord is resting?! Maybe we should try to somehow revive the "mind-blowing" idea of ​​M-nusha...oy! Mitrofanov? Let's replace the inhabited laser airliners with drones - laser repeaters; and place the "megawatt" laser "guns" on the ground? On the ground, lictricity will be cheaper and more accessible! And there will be more space! And laser beam repeaters can be placed (suspended), for example, on airships with the ability to "tie" to the ground... or "SuperCopters" (transportation to the point of placement - "itself, itself"; but with the ability to "tie" to the ground with a rope-cable...)!
  17. +1
    4 March 2025 14: 47
    Methods of counteracting such use are not only budget-friendly, but also integrated with other methods of protecting equipment from threats. I mean, of course, various means of setting smoke that can be placed on equipment and used when necessary (including in automatic use mode), these can also be aerosol curtains.
    The issue of controllability of equipment moving in such a cloud is also not a major problem, since there will be correction by satellite navigation and visual observation means in spectra where smoke does not kill the picture. Such equipment can be installed, for example, on the lead vehicle of the column.
    I would like to point out separately that smoke curtains, when produced on a large scale, can be the most cost-effective solution, modular, varied in properties, compact in installation and extremely easy to integrate.
    To overcome smoke screens, of course, a more powerful LO will be required, but increasing the power of LO with an increase in quantity does not compare with increasing the efficiency of smoke screens and ways to scale up their production.
    So I suspect that until a certain moment (when, for example, a single pulse of LO will be capable of incapacitating a military truck in a second, for example) smoke screens and aerosols will be quite an effective solution even in their pure form. With the increase in the power of LO, perhaps there will be some combined solutions from special coatings that give time for the smoke screens to operate.
  18. +2
    4 March 2025 15: 44
    This is a consequence of the inertia of reconnaissance and strike circuits, when the detected enemy cannot be attacked and destroyed in the same second. All types of destructive ammunition require time to approach the target.

    or maybe it’s all simpler: first we need to link together reconnaissance and strike capabilities, without additional coordination (remember the Korean Boeing over Sakhalin), and then talk about inertia...
    maybe it's not inertia, but something else...
  19. +2
    4 March 2025 20: 39
    I'm shocked... What complete nonsense! And all these bold and italicized inserts clearly demonstrate the author's inadequacy! It's not even suitable for April Fools' Day, because it's not funny.
  20. 0
    4 March 2025 23: 03
    Now SDI, now Phobos-Grunt, now torsion generators.... Now here are lasers. We always want something super-powerful, but they themselves can't weld visors on tanks and install banal timers in shells. How long can we be led by dead-end projects thrown up by enemy agents of influence to exhaust our resources.
    Today the only real laser project is...
  21. 0
    5 March 2025 09: 35
    The article is so-so harmless, something else is scary. SVO showed that the trends in the development of military equipment are airborne, autonomous, non-returnable, equipped with AI, with multiple means of destruction. And all this lies in the field of additive and precision technologies, algorithms of technical vision and computer technology. As you know, the country is in the WTO and even military orders are carried out by private contractors. And whether they will want to deal with military issues or not is not an unambiguous question. There are a lot of scientific disciplines and to become a specialist in it you need decades. Do you know many such enterprises that do not think about survival, but are leaders in their industry in Russia at least? The conclusion is simple - the country must leave the WTO and return to the path of socialism at least by 50 percent in the economy. On the stupid collection of taxes and sending part of it to NATO countries, as is happening now, our country has no future in military terms. The modern economic model is the path to the abyss.