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Crisis month in the defense of the city

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In August 1941, units of the Red Army, under the onslaught of the Nazis, left the Luga line prepared for defense, and retreated to the Krasnogvardeisk area. The Germans attacked in all directions, and on some days the speed of advance of their units to the city on the Neva reached 30-50 km. Tank Major General Viktor Ilyich Baranov’s division was removed from the Kandalaksha direction by order of the Northern Front command and relocated to the Krasnogvardeisk area. In this situation, an experienced commander could oppose the 4th tank group with Colonel General Erich Gepner only with howitzers. As a result, the advance of the Germans in the Red Guard direction slowed down. Serviceable KB tanks approached and Viktor Ilyich in front of the tank company commander, which consisted of only five combat vehicles, set the task - in the area of ​​Voiskovits “to take such a position that not a single Nazi tank could get to Krasnogvardeisk, but stay alive, since the upcoming battles for Leningrad you will need. " The commander of this company accurately complied with the order of the Major General, the tanks were dispersed, disguised, covered by military guards and could shoot all the roads. In this battle, five KB tanks destroyed 43 fascist tanks, and only the commander of one of the vehicles, Lieutenant Evdokimenko, died when replacing a panoramic sight. But his tank was towed to the gathering place of the company. This tank battle frustrated the Germans' plans to capture Krasnogvardeisk from the march, and Leningrad was able to fortify the fortifications for another two weeks, and take out the equipment of factories and people to the East.


Crisis month in the defense of the city
Soviet infantry passes through Leningrad streets, heading for the front


Having broken down the defense of the Red Army units near Tallinn, the Nazis broke into the city at the end of August. All ships of the Baltic fleet left the main base and arrived in Kronstadt with heavy losses. The subordination of the ships of the Baltic Fleet was transferred to the newly created Leningrad Front, and the distribution of ships across the Neva, the sea channel and the bays of Kronstadt began. And the troops of the Leningrad Front continued to retreat, the German military units of the Army Group "North" outnumbered the parts of the Leningrad Front in numbers and weapons. By the end of August, the Germans occupied the stations of Chudovo and Mgu. The October Railway stops the work on the evacuation of factories and residents of Leningrad. After the capture of Tosno, German long-range artillery begins shelling the city. Only the heroism of soldiers and commanders could oppose the enemy at this moment. The Germans were stopped in the Oranienbaum region, and Finnish troops on the old border in the Sestroretsk region. Daily, the irretrievable losses of our troops amounted to about three thousand soldiers, and in four days the Leningrad Front lost the division. The headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief recognized the organization of the defense of Leningrad by the front command as extremely unsatisfactory, if not in other words.

Therefore, September 9 immediately after the surrender of Shlisselburg to the Germans GK arrived in the city. Zhukov, to lead the Leningrad Front, K.E. Voroshilov was removed from command and urgently recalled to Moscow, and a directive on this came to the front headquarters a day later. A group of generals, arrived with G.K. Zhukov, immediately revised the sector of fire support of the troops ships of the fleet, coastal and railway batteries to eliminate the advancing fascist units. The Sinyavino operation began, the Oranienbaum bridgehead was strengthened, and the Nevsky Penetula was captured. But, despite the fact that the remnants of the 4-second tank group of Colonel-General E. Gepner began to be transferred to Moscow, units of the Red Army were forced to leave Krasnogvardeisk, Krasnoye Selo and Pushkin. The front command believed that the danger of the capture of Leningrad by the fascists was still high, so on all ships, coastal batteries kept a strange secret order, which was developed by the former front command, and with which the ship commanders could be found only after special notification.

In September, Hitler left the 8 Volhram von Richthofen air attack corps on the Leningrad front to support the Army Group North. This corps was faced with the task of destroying the Baltic fleet and coastal artillery batteries. The new commander, having familiarized himself with the order that was sent in secret packages to ships in early September, could not come to his senses for a long time. It was difficult for him to imagine what could happen to the country in the event of the explosion of all the ships along the seven established lines and the surrender of Leningrad to the Germans. In this case, the six hundred thousandth grouping of the armies "North" would have been near Moscow in three days, and further events could lead to a complete collapse. Therefore, the tough leadership of the troops that were subordinate to G.K. Zhukov and carrying out preventive strikes against the enemy, was fully competent. The fears of the front command regarding the use by the fascists of the 8 th attack aircraft corps were justified. The duty shift of the Redut-3 radar station, which was located in the Greater Izhora on the Oranienbaum bridgehead, on September 21 recorded the movement of three groups of fascist bombers totaling about 200 units to Kronstadt. The alarm alert announced on time provided a response to this attack.

In the next two days the picture of the fascist raid aviation repeated, but the fleet survived, repulsed the attacks of the bombers with minimal losses. And on September 23 a secret order from ships and batteries was withdrawn and transferred to the archive. 8 th attack aircraft corps was transferred to Moscow. The city on the Neva survived, the situation on the Leningrad front stabilized. In order to reflect the attacks of enemy aviation 24, the 6 th anti-aircraft artillery regiment was transferred to Kronstadt, and the 71 fighter regiments began to be stationed at the Bullfield airfield. To repel the attacks of the fascist units, only the ships of the Baltic Fleet in September fired at the enemy more than 25 and thousands of shells from the main caliber guns. And the main caliber of artillery from 130 to 350 mm, the weight of the shells with terrible destructive force ranged from 30 to 450 kg. Understanding the tremendous power of all the artillery of the fleet, coastal and rail batteries, the front command began to develop measures to coordinate their interaction. Scientists in the besieged city, together with the Navy Hydrographic Office, were able to implement original methods of sound-optical adjustment of artillery fire using long-focal stereo cameras, stereocomparators, reference and working films, and spaced serif points. As a result, at a distance of 20-25 km, the error in firing the main-caliber guns was no more than 40 meters. Now not a single shot of the enemy remained without an answer to the suppression, and this in a few seconds. But fierce fighting throughout the Leningrad Front continued under the blockade. The government of the country made every possible effort in negotiations with the United States and Britain to open a second front. To stabilize the situation, it was necessary to draw off the 50-60 divisions of the fascists from the East. Because of the failure of the capture of Leningrad, Hitler replaced the commander of the Army Group "North". The new commander had the same task of capturing Leningrad, but at a different price. The plan was to break through the Georgian, Budogoshch, Tikhvin to the Svir River and, together with the Finnish troops, isolate the city from the whole country. On October 23, the fascists captured Budogoshch, the Soviet troops, having missed time to strengthen the 4 army covering Tikhvin, were forced to leave the city on November 8. Leningrad lost its last communications base, as the railroad to Volkhov was also seized. Having strengthened the 52 and 54 units of the SVG army and created an advantage on this sector of the front in more than 40 thousands of fighters, the command of the Leningrad and Volkhov fronts planned the liberation of Tikhvin. Having destroyed the strongholds of the fascists by specially prepared assault groups, the Red Army 20 November liberated Malaya Vishera. And then, defeating the Tikhvin garrison, as well as the fascists, the French, Italian and reserve 61 divisions into the city for its defense, 52 and 54 of the army 8 December, liberated the city. This victory inspired not only the fighters of the Leningrad and Volkhov fronts, but also the inhabitants of our whole country. The song “Volkhovskaya table” reflects the victory of the Red Army in this battle.



In the north, the Finnish troops, despite the warnings of the British and US governments about the cessation of hostilities by the Finns on the territory of the USSR, continued offensive operations. Finnish President R. Ryti and Marshal Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim, commander of the Finnish army, against the will of the Finnish people not to participate in the war on the side of Germany against the USSR, on Hitler's orders, moved troops to capture Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. These two criminals created concentration camps in the occupied territories, where not only prisoners of war, but also Russian children were kept. Such camps they created more than 20. At the insistence of the USSR Government 8 December 1941, England nevertheless declared war on Finland and, together with the US Government, warned Ryti and Mannerheim that after the defeat of Germany they would be declared war criminals who would face the death penalty by hanging. This sobered two Finnish leaders. 8 December 1941 on the White Sea-Baltic Canal after the Finnish armored battalion captured the village of Povenets in command of the 131 regiment of the 7 Division of the Karelian Front ordered the first Kanral dam to be blown up. The ice rink washed the equipment and personnel of the battalion into Lake Onega. On the Karelian front on 3, the relative calm was finally established, preserving the line of contact of the troops, fixed on December 8 of 1941.

The fighters of the Leningrad Front are sitting in the trenches before the offensive, September 1 1941.Analyzing the statistics of irretrievable losses, one wonders why snipers were not widely used at the beginning of the war on the Northern Front. After all, the war with Finland 1939 of the year showed the effectiveness of their use on the advancing enemy. One experienced sniper can do up to 8 rounds per minute, and the separation of snipers, as experience has shown in subsequent battles, can stop the advance of a whole infantry battalion.

So what made it possible to stop the fascists near Leningrad, to exhaust their troops and in the 1944 year to drive to the West? Analyzing the provisions expressed in the literature, it can be noted. We were taught that the city was defended by the Communists and the activities of the party organization. It’s hard to disagree. The party was the organizer of the defense and defeat of the enemy. But when Tallinn, Luga, Kiev, Minsk and other cities were handed over, was there a different kind of communists? How the communists of the "first grade of Leningrad" could admit that the fascists, not having a fleet, took possession of the Baltic Sea at the beginning of the war. The city was defended by its inhabitants and fighters who went into battle, preventing the enemy from gaining a foothold in temporarily occupied territories, strategically and tactically competent leadership of the two fronts, permanent counterstrikes in individual sectors, and not a dull defense of the Red Army units, coordinated use of fleet, coastal artillery and railway batteries, each shot of which caused great damage to the Nazis. Massive use of artillery did not allow the fascists to go on the offensive and use tank groups. Since 1942, on the Leningrad front, Soviet aviation has already dominated the air. Leningrad plants during the blockade continued to produce weapons and ammunition not only for the Leningrad, but also other fronts. The Supreme Commander and the Supreme Headquarters personally provided great support to the defense of Leningrad.

PS By the nature of my work, I had to be in the combat areas of limited contingents of troops. Upon my return from business trips, I asked myself the question: "Why?" After all, we will lose these territories and influence on the governments of these countries. Only the United States declares faraway territories, where military operations are conducted "as territories of their vital interests." The leadership of the country, Gorbachev, during this period of time pursued other goals, so as not to create programs for the development of the country with the participation of foreign countries, where our limited contingents of troops and advisers fought.

I often thought back to my childhood and imagined what my father could think about before he died? He died December 27 1941 of the year on the Leningrad front, providing work "Roads of Life". I am sure that he said goodbye to us and prayed that the family would survive and be well after his death. He did not die with the name of Stalin on his lips, as Lev Z. Mehlis fooled the Soviet people. My father fought against the fascists for his family, and also for the fact that there were not 14 millions of Russians left after the war, as Hitler had planned, but hundreds of millions. The co-workers, who so respected and appreciated my father, buried him in a separate grave at the Theological Cemetery, and this is in December 1941 of the year! I constantly come to my father’s grave and talk with him for a long time about everything, as if he had never died and had lived all my life next to me. I remember him a little, although I was three and a half years old, I remember his letters that he wrote to us with his mother from the besieged city. Apparently the protection of their homeland and family - this is patriotism, which needs to educate all the growing population! And in our country now there are more than 100 thousands of children without parents. How could this happen, who is responsible for this to the people? What a feeling of patriotism these guys will have when they grow up. It is necessary to immediately change the vector of work to preserve and strengthen the family. The family should become a state value and its national wealth.
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  1. Arberes
    Arberes 30 March 2013 10: 57 New
    10
    INFANTRY.

    Cruel, merciless load
    Infantry took over
    Having marched hundreds of miles
    Forests, plains and swamps

    You fought in complete surroundings
    Belt in my own blood
    And in the wedges of tank Manstein
    Fought stubborn fights

    You died in the cities
    For every house to melee
    Bayonets clearing the way
    In a deadly battle with a fierce, terrible

    You were laid in the fields
    Machine gun dagger fire
    And torn to pieces
    Slaughter mortar volley

    You made the bloody way
    Drinking all the bitterness without a trace
    And how many dug graves
    Your sapper shovel

    In many cities of Europe
    Granite garrison stands
    Under black marble cold
    SOVIET infantry is sleeping!

    No need to be an expert to know for sure!
    The biggest losses and hardships fell to the infantry!
  2. vovich
    vovich 30 March 2013 11: 59 New
    +7
    It would not be out of place for the author to note that Zinoviy Kolobanov was the commander of the KV company at Voyskovits. It was his crew that destroyed 22 tanks and 2 anti-tank missiles of the 6th German Panzer Division.
    1. Alew
      Alew 30 March 2013 17: 13 New
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      KV heavy tank
    2. Alew
      Alew 30 March 2013 17: 16 New
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      KV heavy tank
  3. lelikas
    lelikas 30 March 2013 15: 50 New
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    Finnish President R. Ruti and the Commander of the Finnish Army, Marshal Karl Gustav Emil Mannerheim, contrary to the desire of the Finnish people not to participate in the war on the side of Germany against the USSR, on Hitler's instructions, troops moved to capture Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. These two criminals ,,,,
    - I clearly remembered the good old political information;)
    The Finns reached their old borders and did not go any further, although they could.
    1. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 30 March 2013 16: 23 New
      +2
      but they became the rear of German troops and the supply of the advancing Germans to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk and Leningrad was carried out through this country
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 31 March 2013 01: 43 New
        +1
        And what in Europe did not become their rear ??
      2. alex20081308
        alex20081308 31 March 2013 08: 56 New
        -3
        Again, the fault of our policy. And they could be neutral and even friendly. The USSR was the first to launch a bombing of Finnish cities on 22 on June. And only a few days later, Finland took the side of Germany
        1. svp67
          svp67 31 March 2013 09: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: alex20081308
          Again, the fault of our policy. And they could be neutral and even friendly. The USSR was the first to launch a bombing of Finnish cities on 22 on June. And only a few days later, Finland took the side of Germany


          And before that she managed, even before the 22 of June, to let German troops through her territory and 22 to capture several disputed islands ... In that situation, Finland could not remain neutral ...
    2. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 30 March 2013 17: 47 New
      +1
      HE XE - ALLIES.
    3. smile
      smile 30 March 2013 20: 10 New
      +5
      lelikas
      Well, maybe the quotes below will cool you - excuse me, writing yourself is too lazy .. :)))
      Finland was going to establish a new border with the USSR along the Neva, the southern shore of Lake Ladoga, Svir, Lake Onega and further to the White Sea and the Arctic Ocean (with the inclusion of the Kola Peninsula) ”[210]. Like this!
      At the same time, Finland’s area was doubled, and the land border with the USSR was more than halved. The border would pass entirely along deep rivers and sea-like lakes.
      On May 25–28, the German and Finnish General Staffs finally settled and agreed on plans for joint operations, the terms of mobilization and the start of the offensive. Finnish forces were to take action 14 days after the start of the German invasion. Two operational German-Finnish groups were created to conduct the fighting. The first, subdivided into three separately operating groups, was intended for an attack on Murmansk, Kandalaksha, Louhi (Operation Polar Fox). The second had the task of attacking Petrozavodsk with the forces of the Finnish Karelian army, together with the German 163rd infantry division, and with the forces of the Finnish Southeast Army, in Leningrad, with the 18th German army. In addition, it was envisaged that the Finns would capture the Hanko Peninsula. [804]
      On June 17, 1941, Finland officially left the League of Nations, and on June 18 began a general mobilization. [805] On the same day, German troops began to advance in the north of Finland to the Soviet border and take up positions for an offensive. A meeting of the heads of the operational divisions of the corps headquarters was held at the General Staff of the Finnish Army, where they were informed about the planned course of events. On June 19, Major General Talvela wrote in his diary: “A preliminary order for the offensive has been received.” [806]
      Trumpeting the whole world about "Soviet aggression", Finnish statesmen did not consider it necessary to hide the true goals of the war. “We now need to unite all Finnish tribes, we need to implement the idea of ​​creating Great Finland and make sure that the borders are moved to where the most direct line runs from the White Sea to Lake Ladoga,” said Salmiala at a parliament meeting on June 25. To the remark of one of the colleagues: “You don’t have to say everything that you think about,” the unifier of the fraternal peoples reassuredly noted that the meeting was still closed. [815]
      On the eve of the invasion, Finnish units received an order from the Commander-in-Chief Marshal Mannerheim, which specifically said:
      “During the liberation war of 1918, I told the Karelians of Finland and the East that I would not put my sword in the scabbard until Finland and East Karelia were free. I swore this name to the peasant army, fully trusting the selflessness of our men and the sacrifice of women.
      For twenty-three years, North Karelia and Olonia waited for the fulfillment of this promise, and a half years after the heroic Winter War, the Finnish Karelia, devastated, expected the dawn to rise ...
      The commander of the 30th Infantry Regiment of the 7th Infantry Division, on the day of crossing the old border, issued an order that said:
    4. smile
      smile 30 March 2013 20: 13 New
      +4
      lelikas
      Continuation of the answer.

      “With a solemn mood, we cross the state border. Stepping on the old Finnish territory of the Kalevala Country, which was inaccessible to us for centuries, we bring a bright future to our people, to all its subsequent generations. It fell on our lot to fulfill the great wish of the Finnish people. The bravest ones decided on this ...
      We will deliver the last strong blow in the name of sustainable peace for all our people and in the name of a happy future for Finnish-related peoples in the ancient Karelian land! ”. [819]
      The record dictated by General Talvel to his secretary on September 8, 1941 is no less pathos: “I arrived on the Svir and felt its mighty course. Now the new border of Finland, about which I dreamed in a dream, will calmly pass along it. ”[820]
      Ahead of the upcoming capture of Leningrad, a ceremonial speech had already been prepared, which was to be delivered by the future President of Finland, Juho Paasikivi. It said:
      “For the first time in its history, the once-so-magnificent Russian capital fell close to our borders. This news, as expected, lifted the spirit of every Finn ... For us, the Finns, Petersburg really brought evil. He was a monument to the creation of the Russian state, its aggressive pursuits. ”[821]
      However, thanks to the stamina and courage of the city’s defenders, this pathetic speech was lost in vain. Relying on the long-term structures of the Karelian fortified area, the Soviet troops took up a solid defense, which was practically impossible to break into when the Finns did not have diving bombers and heavy siege weapons. On September 5, Old Beloostrov was recaptured by the Soviet troops. [822] Not wanting to die inappropriately under impregnable pillboxes, Finnish soldiers began to refuse in large numbers to go on the attack. After this happened in several regiments, and the total number of refuseniks and deserters began to number in the thousands, Mannerheim was forced to completely abandon the attack on Leningrad and go on the defensive. *
      Like this. you can still quote a lot, confirming that the war was aggressive on their part and how much of our land they hoped to grab ... but perhaps you already understand that they refused to carry out their plans not by their own will .... .
      I advise you to read - Shirokorad. "The Great Intermission", Mukhin "Crusade to the East. Victims" .. of course, these books are the ultimate truth, especially some of Mukhin’s conclusions, but they have enough links to documents and serious historical research ... you’ll draw your own conclusions ...
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 31 March 2013 01: 35 New
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        And I didn’t get excited to cool me.
        The fact that they were going to promise does not mean marrying - this was declared to the Germans as a maximum plan, ask for as much as possible by type. How many URs were in the way of the Germans - they all simply circumvented, certainly URs and mortgages in s, s, and the entry of Britain into the war (at least its declaration) played a small role, but still if they had not stood still , but broke forward, and even in concert with the Germans, everything could have been much sadder.
        In your opinion, after the winter war all Finns should have kindled love for us and signed up for pacifists ??
        And in July we were the first to bomb them.
        Ours at 44m did not go to Helsinki, although they could. Cheny already wrote about Stalin, who deleted Mannerheim from the list of criminals - probably just like that, right?
        1. smile
          smile 31 March 2013 02: 16 New
          +2
          lelikas
          Sorry for the "got excited." But, in my opinion, the main thing is that the Finns aimed to seize our land long before the winter war, from the moment of statehood that first arose thanks to the Entente ...
          ... in fact, they nurtured this valuable idea (not they, but their leadership) from the moment they arose ....
          and with the Germans they didn’t agree on min-max programs, but on the concrete actions of their armed forces ... what the hell. min-max, if we are talking about coordinated actions of not even divisions!
          Now - quote, I'm sorry, I quote only when I'm tired and too lazy to process the text in a more digestible and concise ...
          ... Just before the surrender of France, a German officer of the 9th Panzer Division, examining the captured headquarters train, discovered an air attack plan. Carelessly printed documents lay in the folder on which it was written by hand: “ATTAQUE AER1 ENNEDU PETROLE DU CAUCASE. Liaison effectue au GQC Aerien le avril 1940 9
          ".
          Large stamp with the words "TRES SECRET" 10
          made these documents even more tantalizing. Like the lack of a date. The Germans cheerfully published all these documents together with the Anglo-French plan for the invasion of Norway under the pretext of helping the Finns. It was a great propaganda move, and now, looking at these yellowed pages, you are wondering if the leaders of the Western countries who insisted on such crazy adventures were in their minds. ” [208]

          Strictly speaking, this is incomprehensible to the mind: how could Finland, with its 3,5 million population, have plans to seize the territory of the USSR with its 170 million?! Nevertheless, the work of the commission of Russian-Finnish historians in the Finnish archives leads to this conclusion. From the operational plans of the Finnish army, preserved in the Finnish Military Archive, it follows that “it was assumed immediately after the Soviet attack to go on the offensive and occupy a number of territories, primarily in Soviet Karelia ... the command of the Finnish army finally abandoned these plans only a week after the start of the“ winter war “, since the Red Army grouping in this direction was unexpectedly powerful” [209] ...

          even this wed .... cherished dreams of the seizure of our territories .... tell me, what are they right about? what should we give them. that you say everything is fair? Or it’s time to admit that we are not the best in the world. and?
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 31 March 2013 15: 43 New
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            OK -Finland, to which we gave freedom and independence, is a bloodthirsty aggressor. The question is why? Well, is it not because the Bolsheviks started a civil war there right after that, and after the victory of the “whites” there, it also went over to the war with Finland from 1918-1922 (about which the majority had not heard anything)
            and which we rather lost than won, the Finns chopped off a piece of territory from us. The end of the war is the Tartu Treaty and in the 32th year of the USSR with Finland also concludes a non-aggression pact up to 45 years (doesn’t it remind anything?)
            Winter war - the Finnish aggressor is preparing to capture Soviet Karelia with 26 tanks and 270 aircraft - apparently this scared our leaders so much that they dealt a preventive strike, and for one during the war they formed a new government.
            Why, after all this, should the Finns have better feelings for us?
            Actually about why they do not like us.
            Regarding what and whom to give, I didn’t write such a thing, but on the topic of justice, let’s go back to the beginning of my post — the text of the article was rewritten in places from the good old Soviet agitation — which was indicated.
            Mannerheim refused to storm Leningrad - what happened in real history - I personally have enough of this. It’s good to be a patriot of your country, and even better to know at least a little the history and motives of certain actions of its characters.
            Sincerely .
            1. washi
              washi April 2 2013 13: 25 New
              +2
              Freedom and independence was given to all by the Provisional Government. The army destroyed it. The Bolsheviks, even Trotsky, simply wanted to restore the country within their borders.
              The Finns could not overcome Our UR. Therefore, they stopped the offensive.
        2. gora1960
          gora1960 April 10 2013 17: 54 New
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          The first to bomb on June 25th.
    5. alex20081308
      alex20081308 31 March 2013 08: 57 New
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      Well done. Azaz amused me about the mass use of snipers.
    6. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 31 March 2013 15: 15 New
      +3
      Lelikas "The Finns have reached their old borders and have not gone further, although they could."
      Your Finns ran into our fortified area on the old border and were blown away. They wouldn’t go anywhere further. They were enough for one of our bunkers, which they occupied.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 31 March 2013 18: 07 New
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        Well, firstly, they are not mine, and secondly, the CSD was half understaffed both in terms of armament and personnel, it was quite feasible to break through it as needed. The Finns' plans were initially to go to him - which they did not without success. Their further attack took place as planned beyond Lake Ladoga. Here it was choked due to our defense, lack of personnel, including under pressure from England on them.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 31 March 2013 20: 16 New
          +1
          Lelikas "in the second KUR, it was half understaffed both in terms of armament and personnel, to break through it and if necessary was quite a doable business."
          I agree, I think there are no impregnable fortresses. All of them are taken by assault in the presence of forces and means. Apparently, the Finns, fortunately for us, something was not enough.
          Lelikas "So it choked because of our defense, lack of personnel, including under pressure from England on them."
          The successes and non-successes of the warring parties are usually to blame for the actions of the enemy. And since ours resisted ... the Finns could not break through our defense. Plus, what you have listed. And it turns out that the Finns simply did not want to go further and that’s it.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 31 March 2013 22: 50 New
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            Quote: Nagaibak
            And it turns out that the Finns simply did not want to go further and that’s it.

            -on the Karelian Isthmus, that was what I’m talking about.
            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak April 1 2013 08: 18 New
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              Nagaybak "And it turns out that the Finns simply did not want to go further and that’s it."
              Lelikas "-on the Karelian Isthmus, that was what I’m talking about."
              Ordinary Finnish soldiers really did not want to go any further. 48 soldiers in the 83th Infantry Regiment received 10 years in prison. For unwillingness to cross the old border. And in the second half of September 1941, ours made attempts to recapture the pillbox captured by the Finns. True, to no avail. This pillbox was captured by the Finns earlier after they seized the village of Beloostrov on September 4. Armed with two cannons and two machine guns. Built in 1938. Only after these unsuccessful counterattacks did we calm down in this sector of the front.
  4. vovich
    vovich 30 March 2013 16: 24 New
    +7
    Quote: lelikas

    The Finns reached their old borders and did not go any further, although they could.

    Are you kidding me right ?!
    Could not even though they wanted to. Ours did not let them in. They ran into KaURy. However, the Finns were able to capture a significant part of Karelia, including Petrozavodsk. And the population in the occupied lands was driven to free work.
    And along the way, they fired on the northern outskirts of St. Petersburg and the forts of the Kronstadt fortress.
    The Finns themselves recognize at the expense of "did not want to."
    "Finland as an occupier in 1941-1944" by Helge Seppälä.
    1. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 30 March 2013 17: 46 New
      +4
      MANNERHEIM (former graduate of the General Staff of Russia) and His generals LOOK AT KRONSTADT and LENINGRAD-gut is thin to take it by STORM.
      1. Black
        Black 30 March 2013 23: 59 New
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        K. Mannerheim is smart. He literally "in the rain between the streams" led the country.
        And Germany's support in the war was highly controversial. Stalin and Mannerheim had a wonderful relationship. Stalin personally prevented the clarification in Nuremberg of some piquant facts of the history of Finland from the era of the War of Independence and the beginning of the 40s. The leader of the people understood the role of Finland in the war.
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 31 March 2013 01: 39 New
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      Anything can be recognized - we have a rezun admitted that they wanted to capture the whole of Europe.
      t, e, they could shoot at Leningrad and Krnstadt, but at the bunkers of KaUR - not what was ???
      About the population, ours is the same after the winter war they were not relocated to Crimea.
  5. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 30 March 2013 17: 37 New
    +5
    Thanks to the author for even mentioning "the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Supreme High Command headquarters personally provided great support to the defense of Leningrad."
    I was probably ashamed to mention the name of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich. And then some authors of such articles are added to the point that the Soviet people "won not because of, but against the will and actions of Stalin IV."
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 31 March 2013 16: 18 New
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      Quote: vladimirZ
      I was probably ashamed to mention the name of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich. And then some authors of such articles are added to the point that the Soviet people "won not because of, but against the will and actions of Stalin IV."


      As it was in the original manuscript written by the Onulitegs from the ideological department of the Phasington Regional Committee, they write so. Word for word with their ugly little hands scribbling dirt on their people.
  6. pinecone
    pinecone 30 March 2013 18: 56 New
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    Quote: lehatormoz
    but they became the rear of German troops and the supply of the advancing Germans to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk and Leningrad was carried out through this country

    In fairness, we must nevertheless note that the "Germans advancing on Arkhangelsk" is already too much.

    And one more thing: the author calls the 8th air corps of the German Air Force “shock”, which is not entirely true, since in reality this connection was designated as a “special air corps” and organizationally was not part of the structure of any of the Air Fleets, but was assigned to them by as necessary for use as an operational reserve on the sectors of the Soviet-German front that are most important from the point of view of the German command.
    1. lechatormosis
      lechatormosis 30 March 2013 19: 17 New
      +1
      in Arkhangelsk the convoys of the conscripts were unloaded under the Lend Lease.
      The city was repeatedly bombed by German aircraft.
      KILLED ABOUT 4000 people.
  7. Lignitz
    Lignitz 30 March 2013 20: 18 New
    +1
    It would be interesting to know by name and name of all our soldiers in the photographs. I think they should be known.
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 31 March 2013 23: 20 New
      +2
      My grandfather fought near Leningrad. True, not in 1941, but since 1942.
  8. wolf1945
    wolf1945 30 March 2013 22: 28 New
    +1
    Glory and eternal memory to the defenders of our homeland of the USSR! soldier
  9. vovich
    vovich 31 March 2013 02: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: lelikas
    Anything can be recognized - we have a rezun admitted that they wanted to capture the whole of Europe.
    t, e, they could shoot at Leningrad and Krnstadt, but at the bunkers of KaUR - not what was ???
    About the population, ours is the same after the winter war they were not relocated to Crimea.

    Somewhat strange position. Quotations and sources are given to you, but forgive the answer, at the level of "I hear from this." It is not a matter of faith that is discussed. It's about our story, which our Western "pale friends" are trying hard to rewrite. What is your statement based on the desire of the Finns to stay within the old border? Share the source?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 31 March 2013 15: 06 New
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      The position is normal, the answer (if you did not understand it) came down to the fact that you can write a lot in books and they are not always a good reason.
      In the sense of the dispute itself - initially it was a question of the fact that the Finns and Mannerheim in particular refused to participate in the storming of Leningrad.
      If anyone doesn’t know - I will remind you on August 28, Keitel strongly recommended changing his plans and switching to joint attacks on the city - was refused, on September 4 Jodl - with the same effect. I hope everything is outlined and there is no census of history.
      1. vovich
        vovich 31 March 2013 16: 57 New
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        Quote: lelikas
        On August 28, Keitel strongly recommended changing his plans and switching to joint attacks on the city - was refused, September 4, Jodl - with the same effect

        Yes. The only reason for the refusal is not sudden attacks of pacifism of Mannerheim, but the lack of sufficient forces and means to attack the Finns.
        With all due respect to Mannerheim, as a politician, an officer of the Russian army, an explorer of the east, it cannot be denied that on his conscience the death of hundreds of thousands of Leningraders.
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 31 March 2013 18: 42 New
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          I repeat once again - it was not in the plans for the assault of the city, not in the plans, not in fact.
          Responsibility is, but not only on him, but on everyone, including ours.
          Rewind up - look at the map - and even if the Finns had remained within their borders - where did they come from the north and the main thing was to bring to Leningrad.
  10. valiant
    valiant 31 March 2013 10: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: alex20081308
    And they could be neutral and even friendly. The USSR was the first to launch a bombing of Finnish cities on June 22. And only a few days later, Finland took the side of Germany

    The first retaliatory strike of our aviation was delivered on June 25 at the AIRFORDS of Finland with the aim of destroying GERMAN airplanes there, which in the first days of the war raided from there to Leningrad, Petrozavodsk, Kronshtadt and Murmansk. Air attacks were undertaken only against the GERMAN Air Force. The Finns took advantage of this and declared the country a victim of "new Soviet aggression." Although as early as June 21, under the protection of FINNISH ships, German minzags established minefields in the Gulf of Finland, and on June 22, the USSR was subjected to shelling and air strikes by German aircraft based on 6 Finnish airfields. The list of only these actions of the Finnish side, according to the laws and norms of international law, qualifies as open aggression against a neighboring state. The Finns needed an excuse to declare war and justify these actions, and he introduced himself to them.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 31 March 2013 18: 26 New
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      The first hit was on the AIRDOMS - what was the airfield in the center of Turku?
      To recall the late "peaceful" raids?
      On the 22nd we confirm the neutrality of Finland, on the 24th we withdraw the embassy, ​​on the 25th armada (there is no other word), bombers destroy Finnish airfields (we will adhere to the version that there are no casualties among civilians).
      Despite the fact that at the same time there is practically no front-line aviation at the same time, and TB-3 bombed bridges without cover during the day. The question is why?
  11. nnz226
    nnz226 31 March 2013 10: 51 New
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    Yes, Leningrad is the hero city of 1 in the USSR !!! Although everything was much more tragic than in the article. And counter-battery combat unfolded widely only in the 1943 year, and before that the guns had 2-5 shells per barrel for a day ...
  12. Udom84
    Udom84 31 March 2013 12: 25 New
    +2
    My great-grandfather Efim Bryzgalov was drafted to the front in 1941 at the age of 48 and died in 1942 on the Leningrad Front. Glory and eternal memory to the fallen heroes!
  13. vovich
    vovich April 1 2013 00: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: lelikas
    look at the map - if only the Finns remained within their borders - where did they come from the north and what’s most important is what to bring to Leningrad.

    If you noticed, the areas of the German-Finnish flotilla are marked on the map, which seriously affected the cargo transportation in Ladoga. (emnip, the Germans at the end of the 41st managed to throw a floating battery equipped with several 88 guns into that area) Add the action of enemy aircraft. Here is the answer. Well right, that's obvious.
  14. volga248
    volga248 April 1 2013 10: 11 New
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    To the author for the article plus. A lot of facts have been raised, about which they either closed or did not know.
    Family is the value of the state. Where to talk about it. Children without parents. The author is absolutely right, it is necessary from mothers and fathers identified by DNA to collect alimony for life and finance those families that accept single children. Children cannot be brought up in orphanages, our state is rich and we are obliged to make every child have a family.
    There were comments that the ships, coastal batteries released were experiencing hunger in large-caliber shells. In just 20 days of September, the fleet and coastal batteries fired at the enemy more than 25 thousand large-caliber shells, in October even more. Shells and charges were in stocks and factories were constantly releasing them, despite the blockade, hunger and cold.
    After correcting matters on the Leningrad Front on October 5 (less than a month later), Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov left for the Reserve Front. So it was necessary to fight.
    Now regarding snipers. By 1941, more than 9 million people in the country had the Voroshilovsky shooter badges. Is that a props? Snipers F. Okhlopkov destroyed more than 1000 enemies, V. Sabiev - more than 600 people, V. Kvachantiradze - more than 500 people, I. Sidorenko - more than 500 people, etc. In Leningrad, there were optical and weapons enterprises, which, at the direction of Voroshilov and Zhdanov, could arrange the emergency release of sniper rifles. But these two leaders did nothing to create special units for snipers. The preparation of a sniper takes 2 days, and per position, in battle. Then in July, the Nazis would not go at a pace of 30-50 km. per day, and would crawl at a speed of 3 km. per day. Snipers had to knock out up to 150 thousand fascists in a month and a half, when they walked to their full height and moved in convoys on trucks.
    1. Alex
      Alex 5 October 2013 17: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: volga248
      In Leningrad, there were optical and weapons enterprises, which, at the direction of Voroshilov and Zhdanov, could arrange the emergency release of sniper rifles. But these two leaders did nothing to create special units for snipers.

      To weld optical glass and polish the lenses - this is not yet to make a spider scope. Maybe this is news for you, but in optics (especially in the military) the main thing is the exact mechanics. A sight made without special equipment costs nothing.
      Sniper training takes 2 of the day, and to the position in battle.

      And in the coffin, without noticeable result.
      Then in July, the Nazis would not go with the pace of 30-50 km. per day, and would crawl at a speed of 3 km. per day. Snipers had to knock out up to 150 thousand fascists in a month and a half

      I don’t even want to comment on this.
  15. washi
    washi April 2 2013 13: 31 New
    +1
    Zhukov during the defense of Leningrad proved to be complete. Everything was done before him by Voroshilov. Do not believe his memoirs. Here, Rezun’s position is closer to me.
  16. gora1960
    gora1960 April 10 2013 18: 28 New
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    It is sad to read Glavpurovsky relations in the 21st century. Zhukov G.K. arrived in Leningrad on September 13, not 9. The last German tank, which allegedly shot at trams on the outskirts of the city, left for Moscow on September 14. To say that the Germans stormed the city without tanks is to recognize them as idiots, but this is not so.
  17. Alex
    Alex 5 October 2013 17: 15 New
    +2
    Typical propaganda craft, plus defirambes to Zhukov (well, it’s fashionable again now). A bunch of small, but fundamental errors, which I just don’t want to list. The article is unambiguous "-". But the defenders of Leningrad - a low bow and eternal memory.