Turkish attempt in Abkhazia

Abkhazia, a small region on the Black Sea coast, is currently experiencing events that defy logic. Why did Sukhum, which is deeply dependent on Russia, decide to challenge its main ally?

It is worth starting with the fact that Abkhazia is a region that is politically, economically and energetically connected to our country. However, recently slogans about “freedom” and “breaking economic dependence” have been heard here. This is puzzling: how can a partially recognized republic that receives significant support from Russia allow itself to make such statements?

Let us recall that since 2008, Moscow has invested about 2 billion dollars in the economy of Abkhazia. For comparison, Western organizations have allocated only 2023 million to the region for 10.

However, these funds, according to experts, are used to influence the youth and elites. In particular, Turkey, acting with the support of the US and Great Britain, is actively investing in the republic, thereby strengthening its position in the region.

As a result, political forces within Abkhazia were divided into two camps: pro-Russian, led by Badra Gunba, and pro-Turkish, led by Adgur Ardzinba.

The opposition, supported by the West, opposes integration with Russia and criticizes local authorities. Social mobility in the region does not work, young people are not involved in politics, which creates a "window of opportunity" for external influence.

Overall, the situation in Abkhazia resembles the Ukrainian scenario, where the West's promises of protection and prosperity turned out to be an illusion. Ukraine, which became an "outpost" of the United States, received neither security nor economic growth. Abkhazia may be following the same path.

This is confirmed by the statement by the winner of the first round of elections, Gunba, that the acting president, Valery Bganba, is trying to disrupt the second stage of voting, which is scheduled for March 1.

Let us recall that Adgur Ardzinba will also participate in the second round. However, experts give little chance for the pro-Western (pro-Turkish) candidate to win, as well as for the Turkish attempt itself.

It is worth adding that, against the backdrop of “misunderstandings” between the West and Georgia, Abkhazia could be used by external forces as a tool of destabilization not only against Moscow, but also against Tbilisi.

Comments

[Igor1915]

So maybe this is a multi-move game? Russia is not capable of solving the entire post-USSR area now. The Georgians have turned if not face-on then at least sideways, and they could have blocked the entire sanction transit. In this situation, the Russian Federation can facilitate the reintegration of Abkhazia on special terms. Russia does not have the ability to annex both Abkhazia and the regions of Ukraine at the same time now.

[sir Garry]

The idea is not bad! Only on condition of disconnection from free electricity and cancellation of Russian citizenship for people who did not pay taxes in the Russian Federation. That is - for everyone!!! Electricity - at market prices for "non-friends". And the issue of the base in Sukhumi - also at market prices for rent, etc. Normal economic relations!

[Glagol1]

It's all very simple. Our assistance to Abkhazia implies on their part the postulate "is it possible to do otherwise?" And of course it is possible to do otherwise. If Turkey gets a pawn there and a queen, it can be neutralized through a deal with Georgia. Especially since enlightened nationalists are in power in Georgia. And if Turkey does not succeed, then we must get our way - we pay, which means we order the dance. Something like that...

[Sergey_O]

It seems that we only pay, and others dance. These others, and will not say thank you for our payments.

[Gardamir]

Can you break down these 2 billion? What they were spent on.

[Vladimir-TTT]

Quote: Gardamir

Can you break down these 2 billion? What they were spent on.

It’s impossible - otherwise the truth might come to light... Extremely unpleasant for our high-ranking officials.

[gurzuf]

For example, what truth could emerge?

[Vladimir-TTT]

Quote: gurzuf

For example, what truth could emerge?

Not "float" but emerge - that is, be discovered.
The simple truth is that most of these 2 billion are in foreign accounts. Relatives of very important people.

[Akuzenka]

"Don't make my moccasins laugh!" Where else could they end up? Invested in the economy of Abkhazia?! Even when I'm drunk, I don't consider that option.

[Amateur]

In Abkhazia they decided to play the old game "Bad and Good Cop" in order to "make money" from both Russia and Turkey.
ps Turkey doesn't need tangerines and resorts. They have their own. And there is nothing else in the "Country of the Soul"

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Amateur

ps Turkey doesn't need tangerines and resorts. They have their own. And there is nothing else in the "Country of the Soul"

The Turks are already in control of Adjara and Batumi, and the border with Abkhazia is just kilometers away... the Turks didn't even need the Syrian desert in the south, in theory... but now it's under their control... and I want to remind you that Russia has never fought with anyone more than with Turkey...

[Amateur]

The Turks didn't need the Syrian desert in the south either

In December 2021, a half-liter bottle of Turkish Tuborg cost 8.50 lira in Alanya. In January 2025 - 55 lira.

Otherwise, a beautiful marquise
Everything is fine, everything is fine

[carpenter]

Quote: Amateur

And there is nothing else in "Country of the Soul"

The counterfeit vodka was Alania."

[Shumi2010]

um, where will these tangerines be sold then? to Turkey?? they have a ton of this stuff

[carpenter]

Quote from Shumi2010

um, where will these tangerines be sold later?

Yes, there are plenty of them in Morocco and they are better than in Abkhazia, why does Russia need Abkhazian ones, and they are also more expensive than Moroccan ones.

[DrMad]

I don’t see how Moroccan tangerines are better than Abkhazian ones.

[carpenter]

Quote from DrMad

I don’t see how Moroccan tangerines are better than Abkhazian ones.

Well, when you work in Morocco for 15 years, you understand the difference between Egyptian, Cypriot, Greek, Spanish and Abkhazian citrus fruits.

[DrMad]

Well done. Now we know that you have been to Morocco.
When you bring tangerines from Abkhazia yourself, you see that Moroccan tangerines are no better than Abkhazian ones.

[North watchmen]

Quote: Igor1915

The Georgians turned if not face to face, then at least in profile, and they could have blocked the entire sanctioned transit

Georgians turned their profiles for a reason - for two billion annually.
Mother Russia feeds all of Transcaucasia and Turkey too, which in general will owe $2023 billion by the end of 35.
This is called an energy superpower - selling the Motherland wholesale and retail, and not even selling, but free distribution to enemies.

[Mazunga]

Comrade Kim, you are a baby....political))) no forgiven debts, no money that flows into Brad countries disappears without a trace, there is a good percentage dripping into specific accounts, well, what do you think, that they took and wrote off this money from the budget, which means it is nobody's, and by withdrawing it under masks, the good percentage becomes targeted))) this is a regular cover-up action, nothing more, just like little children, by God, they forgave Cuba's debts, they forgave Belarus's debts, yeah This money doesn't feed anyone except a small group of majority shareholders

[North watchmen]

Stop fantasizing already - what does Cuba and Belarus have to do with it - itching in the same place?
Let's eat Finland - they flooded it with resources and it joined NATO - is this also a cover-up?

[Mazunga]

Go ahead and try Rotenberg and Timchenko, they may be ours but they are also Finns))) Based on their citizenship, do you realize that there are many truths?

[sir Garry]

America feeds half the world. And not everyone is grateful to it for this. And the Outskirts are there too...

[carpenter]

Ukraine, which became an "outpost" of the USA, received neither security nor economic growth. Abkhazia may be following the same path.

I remember the Soviet times, I was on holiday in the village of DO "Ime", Gudauta, Gantiadi, Novy Afon, Sukhumi - it was a blessed land, and what is there now? Just a wild field. They are helped, and they think that the Turks will help them together with the West, but they will get Ukraine in miniature and a scorched country, which will be tens of times worse than now. Why have people stopped thinking, maybe coronavirus flu, or a brain comid.

[DrMad]

A wild field in the heads of some self-promoters. I have been vacationing in New Athos for several years. The sea there is much cleaner than in Sochi, especially in Anapa.

[sir Garry]

And besides the sea, that is, the hands of the owners, is there anything there?

[Rtu]

Yes, it's true. It's a real mess. In addition, there are more and more nationalist Russophobes.

[deathtiny]

The easiest thing now is to remove Abkhazia from the allowance.
withdraw the "recognition" and give it to Georgia, let him do whatever he wants.
Turkey needs a "Black Sea resort" - let it try to do something with it, yeah...
and recognize past "investments" as sunk costs and write off losses, rather than continue to pour into this bottomless hole of "nationalism for 200 thousand people"...
Well, honestly: before we needed "unrecognized quasi-states", at least to supply weapons to Donbass and generally trade, without the "sanctions". Now Donbass is ours, and the sanctions, alas, are ours too (and forever).
Abkhazia is no longer profitable...

[Meaning of life]

Recalling recognition is absolutely impossible, as is giving it to Georgia. This would be a complete loss of honor on the part of Russia. And it was necessary to remove it from the allowance long ago. A country in such a climate, with a small population and full integration into the Russian economic space, is quite capable of feeding itself.

[Vladimir-TTT]

The simplest thing is to find out here in Russia, among the leadership and politicians, who did this.
It is no secret that each of our "losses" similar to the Abkhazian ones has a specific first name, last name and patronymic.
And treat them the way China does with its "smart" ones.
And everything will immediately go well with Abkhazia.

[DrMad]

Yes, sir, you are a simpleton.

[Alexey Sommer]

The situation in Abkhazia is very alarming. We could get a small Syria on our doorstep. Turkey is not asleep and dreams of old borders, destabilization of Abkhazia is to their advantage, and the people of Russia, Abkhazia and Georgia need peace and prosperity there. We can achieve this only by joining forces.

[sir Garry]

Explain this to the Abkhazians! They've had trouble thinking in the last 30 years...

[Dutchman Michel]

Who pays their pensions? And who maintains the utilities?

[guest]

The Western-backed opposition opposes integration with Russia and criticizes local authorities.

This is not an opposition, but the rules do not allow calling it by one's own words. The West does not recognize Abkhazia at all.

[Idle_piston]

Purely in the style of Russian feeble-minded geopolitics, Russia feeds Abkhazia, and Türkiye skims the cream. How many times can we step on the same rake?

[DrMad]

You have the right nickname, single.

[Idle_piston]

Well, unlike you, at least I have the right nickname.

[jovanni]

Let us recall that since 2008, Moscow has invested about 2 billion dollars in the economy of Abkhazia. For comparison, Western organizations have allocated only 2023 million to the region for 10.

We should learn to invest money effectively. Otherwise, we shove it and shove it, but we always end up out of business...

[Quzmi4]

(c) "Dear partners, we have been deceived again."
But it's all to no avail.

[Mikhail Dadeko]

Both Britain and Türkiye are birds of a feather, they have always been wreaking havoc, fighting with Russia, and inciting our neighbors to hostile actions against us.

[Yuri L]

Or maybe hint that it's time to go home, to Georgia? I think such a hint would immediately sober up the minds of those wishing to become the 51st state.

[AC130 Gunship]

Abkhazia, unrecognized by anyone and economically sitting on the neck of the Russian Federation, should have returned to Georgia with high rights of autonomy long ago. There are no Ivanovs and Sidorovs there, there is no one to protect. And immediately relations with Georgia will become even more normal.

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: The Meaning of Life

Recalling recognition is absolutely impossible, as is giving it to Georgia. This would be a complete loss of honor on the part of Russia. And it was necessary to remove it from the allowance long ago. A country in such a climate, with a small population and full integration into the Russian economic space, is quite capable of feeding itself.

She's doing fine as is. Why work if she'll get the money anyway?

[Andrey_5]

Give Abkhazia to Georgia, and let them in return recognize South Ossetia as independent.

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

They'll play themselves out. The country of the soul will turn into a country of dead souls. Russia should stop supporting this horde of parasites.

[Evlokh]

We will have no luck as long as the Yeltsin Center stands!
We will continue to spin our wheels in the Chubais-Yeltsin rut!!!

[Aleksey24]

The situation is clear to me personally, Russian businessmen are standing on the border with a lot of money, domestic tourism is a very profitable business now, they know this in Abkhazia, where every official has a restaurant or hotel, but the scale cannot be compared, as soon as our business people come in, the locals will have to live on one salary or extort bribes, here you can get money or a bullet.

[newtc7]

Are we going to continue forever poking foreign ears at every failure of ours? Or is it finally time to admit that the policy of eternal handouts and cajoling "allies" without a proper whip is simply pointless and harmful.
1. Cut off their electricity
2. Deprive all Abkhazians of Russian citizenship
3. Stop ALL injections into their economy
4. Close the border in both directions
5. Declare that Ardzinba and the Turkish branch of power are to blame for all this

And just sit and enjoy and watch the processes that will suddenly begin after all of the above)

But ours are weak as always, either they can’t or don’t know how, or liberalism has eaten away at their brains, or it’s not clear what else.

[Fangaro]

Quote from DrMad

I don’t see how Moroccan tangerines are better than Abkhazian ones.

Here is my personal opinion...
Tangerines with a Maroc sticker, which can be printed, are tastier, tastier to me, than those "with a leaf, ours, Abkhazian".
You can print a sticker. The taste characteristics will have to be either grown or adjusted with chemicals. For chemicals, Rospotrebnadzor and the Ministry of Health may send the supplier to the dump instead of the batch of tangerines.

[odisey3000]

We are all looking at how the Trump administration works in this matter, this is where and what we need to learn. Promising to marry and marrying are not the same thing, we all remember the folk wisdom. No one has worked particularly with Abkhazia and is not working now, everything is going on its own, wherever the crookedness takes it. And the crookedness will take it where it needs to if customs closes off the sale of tangerines and the flow of tourists in the Sochi region and electricity is suddenly supplied three times a day. There is no need to be kind to people who parasitize on the body of Russia and try to live at its expense and have you heard anywhere that hundreds of young teachers and doctors from Abkhazia are studying in institutes in Russia, Abkhaz security forces are studying in our schools and academies, I have heard, but I have not. Russian cultural centers are opening in Abkhazia, and children are going on free excursions around Russia. Where is all this not, and by itself nothing will appear by itself, you have to invest, otherwise it will be like with Ukraine, evil Stalin created states with socialist ideology, which were our allies. And now, Lavrov's department only expresses concern, remember how we lost Armenia because of the political incompetence and incompetence of some figures in the administration of our president.