What's wrong with this drone carrier?

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What's wrong with this drone carrier?

No, seriously, there's something wrong with this ship. In the comments on "X" and other places where you can demonstrate the depth of your intellect, many are openly laughing at the drone carrier, converted from a dry cargo ship. However, laughter is laughter, but such a ship, stuffed with "Shaheds", can cause trouble. Unless, of course, it is preemptively hit with something anti-ship and lethal.

But let's first look at the Shahid Bagheri. Its dimensions are impressive, and a comparison with the American UDC of the America class is very appropriate here. We will compare them, because there is a certain sense in this.




UDC "America"

The displacement of the Bagheri is 42 tons. The displacement of the America is 000 tons.
The length of the Bagheri is 240 meters, the length of the America is 257 meters.
The width of the Bagheri is 32 meters, and the width of the America is exactly the same.

It can be said that the ships are almost identical in size. The only difference is the length of the flight deck. The American ship has a "takeoff deck" the entire length of the ship, that is, more than 220 meters, but without a ski jump. And the Bagheri is 170-180 meters. But with a ski jump. From which Iran recently demonstrated a takeoff and landing UAV, and the landing was carried out “like an airplane”, with the help of an arresting gear.

New photos and videos of 'Shahid Bagheri' have been released following a ceremony marking his official induction into the Navy fleet Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). It is known that the conversion of the "aircraft carrier" from a commercial container ship began in May 2022, and sea trials in the new configuration began in November last year.

About aviation We will talk about the capabilities of the Shahid Bagheri separately at the very end, but now we will note that the ship can be used as a UDC. The pictures of the Shahid Bagheri show the ability to launch and lift small boats using davits through large portals closed by doors on both sides of the hull. There is information that up to 30 different boats and launches can be accommodated inside the ship.


Use of small boats armed with rockets and others weapons, in groups has long been a characteristic tactic of the IRGC naval units. There are opinions that the ship can be used to launch unmanned surface (USV) and underwater (UUV) vehicles.




The photos also show one of the Shahid Bagheri's ports being used to connect via a ramp to a small vessel similar to a landing craft. This allows the Bagheri to load and unload personnel and equipment more quickly, including for further transfer to the shore. The UDC in all its glory, with support aircraft on the upper deck?

weaponry


The Shahid Bagheri has its own onboard weapons, including launchers in the stern that are designed for anti-ship cruise missiles, and a turret with an automatic cannon in the bow.


Something automatic, and, as it seems to me, with Soviet roots. The caliber, it seems, is about 76 mm, like on the frigates of the "Moudge" class. And behind, on the sides of the ski jump, something like that, obviously from Defense.




In addition, at the stern of the ship, behind the main superstructure, there is a large open area that can be used for various purposes, including as an additional flight deck for helicopters and drones vertical takeoff and landing, and for additional launchers, especially container-type launchers. Iranian officials claim the ship has short- and medium-range air defense capabilities, as well as electronic warfare and intelligence-gathering capabilities, but these are not visible in the images.


However, it is possible to hide the antennas of the SIGINT systems and EW not that difficult.


A view of the Shahid Bagheri from the stern. Visible behind the ship's main superstructure are launchers that appear to be designed for anti-ship cruise missiles.


A close-up of the bow of the Shahid Bagheri with artillery Installation






Some of the rooms inside Shahid Bagheri, including a medical room, a mini-hospital and a gymnasium with a football pitch covered with artificial turf, provide space for the soldiers to exercise their bodies during breaks.

But what is this strange ship needed for anyway?


Currently, Bagheri is equipped only with drones and helicopters, so it is not strictly speaking an aircraft carrier. But in theory, it could also carry planes. The runway on the 240-meter vessel is 170 x 18 meters.

Iran currently has no aircraft that are suitable for takeoff from a ski-jump. Not yet, it must be said. The Russian MiG-29K, although it is a frankly outdated yesterday of carrier-based aviation, will be able to take off from the deck of the Bagheri, since the takeoff length of the MiG-29K is from 110 meters, depending on the load. And Iran has more than excellent relations with Russia today.


And China, China shouldn't be discounted either. When Iran and Pakistan started slapping each other in January last year, it was China that sent out a call to calm down and talk. And, most remarkably, the call was heard, and on the fourth day everyone calmed down.

Pakistan is a long-standing Chinese friend against India and a weapons client. So, given that China and Iran have no hot spots at all, it is quite possible that the IRGC will acquire Chinese J-15s. This is, of course, work on the Su-33 theme, but nevertheless, the characteristics of this aircraft will allow it to take off from the deck of the Bagheri.


Here the question is exclusively about the strength capabilities of the Iranian ship, because it is one thing to land a drone weighing 1-3 tons (the MQ-9 Reaper weighs almost 5 tons), and quite another thing if you slam 18 tons of MiG-29K or, even worse, 30 tons of J-15 onto the deck. This moment should be treated with great attention and thoroughness of execution.

But if we consider Bagheri as a training base, then everything is more or less smooth and even. Airplanes are not the first thing, but drones are the first thing. And, it must be admitted, it is easier and cheaper to teach ship crews to launch and receive aircraft on them.

Considering that Iran has never done this. And, fortunately, there are drones in this country like... like peaches. Or quinces.

For example, the Ababil-3 is a well-proven Iranian design that is actively used in Iran and by other operators in the Middle East. The drone is capable of surveillance and reconnaissance missions, as well as the use of small precision-guided munitions.

Larger drones or mock-ups are also visible, with designs that match the Qaher 313, a drone based on an aircraft. There are unconfirmed reports that these drones are 20 percent and 60 percent smaller than the original Qaher 313, respectively. Both aircraft are marked JAS-313, and one is shown in the video being lifted onto the flight deck by an elevator. It is unknown what their actual capabilities are, but they are likely attack drones.












Other types of drones can be seen on the deck of the Shahid Bagheri, such as the Mohajer-6, another popular Iranian drone used in Iran and many other countries around the world. American-made Bell Model 206 and Model 212 helicopters, as well as Russian-made Mi-17s, can be seen on the ship’s flight deck.


In general, a normal set for a UDC. If you look at "America", then really only planes are missing. But here you can see the difficulties.

The main questions about the capabilities of the Shahid Bagheri remain open because some things are not entirely clear. For example, the retention of the original main superstructure of the container ship in the aft section immediately leads to an unusual arrangement of the flight deck.

The Shahid Bagheri retains the original superstructure, which spans the entire width of the deck, which means that the traditional flat-deck UDC configuration cannot be used. Apparently, moving the superstructure to the starboard side is too difficult a task for Iranian shipbuilders. But it is indeed a very difficult task.

The problem of the runway length is partially solved by a ski jump, but a superstructure located directly next to the runway will significantly complicate maneuvering, especially during landing.

The question of what kind of aircraft will fly from this strange ship is key to understanding the purpose of its creation. It is clear that Bageri will be able to launch and receive the entire range of aircraft (airplanes, helicopters, UAVs). Moreover, heavy attack or reconnaissance drones with jet engines - for them, Bageri is an ideal base.


And behind the superstructure, in the stern, there is more than enough space to accommodate smaller types of catapult-launched drones like the Shahed-136 and other modular weapons. Canister-launched cruise missiles are another option Iran is already using.

Of course, it is not worth even considering the Bagheri as a serious strike ship. In general, the basis of the strike force of the Iranian fleet is submarines, and the IRGC fleet, to which the Shahid Bagheri belongs, is missile boats. In this light, the drone carrier of the IRGC fleet does not look like a combat unit capable of inflicting damage on enemy ships or landing an impressive landing force.

Of course, appearing under the cover of a couple of destroyer-class warships, the Bagheri will be able to cause damage to commercial shipping, and in a very large area.

The ability to launch drones, especially strike drones, from a dedicated drone carrier could be useful in scenarios against some opponents without powerful fleets, as well as for attacks in the “gray zone.” However, it remains a big question mark as to how long the Shahid Bagheri would last if used in such a strike role against a more or less decent navy capable of rapid response.

The fact that it can deploy these capabilities virtually anywhere in the world also gives it a unique place in Iran's military arsenal. Projecting power is difficult, but a drone carrier like this is a very cheap way to project power where it's needed.

It is clear that the Bagheri will not last long in such a scenario, but the cost of its conversion from a dry cargo ship is incomparable with the construction of a real aircraft carrier. This is a fact worth thinking about.

A disposable ship? A one-mission ship?


By the way, it is possible. But it has been known for a long time that Iran simply does not have the real capacity to build ships of the required tonnage and configuration. From the very moment when it became clear that some Iranian commercial vessels are not at all what they look like. Iran used modified commercial vessels as secret floating bases for its submarines, as well as for intelligence gathering.

The Shahid Bagheri is a symbolic extension of this theme. Given that American aircraft carriers are frequent visitors to the Persian Gulf, and are the very tools of power projection, Iranian officials are increasingly seeking to deploy naval forces over long distances, including in the Western Hemisphere. The Shahid Bagheri is said to have a range of 22 nautical miles, which, while dubious, fits with these larger ambitions, at least in terms of distraction. A drone carrier is good for that kind of thing.

Whatever real capabilities the Shahid Bagheri may have, it also reflects a real trend towards building new large deck warships, primarily focused on unmanned operations, as well as converting existing vessels to some extent into "unmanned aircraft carriers." The Turks are quite deliberately making their UDC a drone carrier, since they were denied the F-35B. Necessity, you know, is the mother of invention.

So we have two possible scenarios, and the most likely one should be stated first. Shahid Bagheri is simply a testing ground. On this ship, UAV operators and helicopter pilots will practice taking off and landing on a ship, and the ship's tracking and guidance system operators will practice their tasks. At this time, design engineers at Iranian shipyards (for example, at ISOICO, whose shipyards are capable of building up to four ships of any type with a deadweight of up to 80 thousand tons annually) will work on the task of building a ship with a superstructure on the side. Or two.

And sooner or later Iran will receive a full-fledged UDC with the ability to use aircraft. And this path can be covered in 4-6 years, and the personnel will already be trained and waiting on shore. And, given the presence of a full-fledged aviation team on the ship, it will be possible to begin training and training pilots.

And this will already be the birth of Iran's naval aviation.

The second option is simpler. Iran will continue to build such homemade products and use them, disguising them as commercial vessels. "Bagheri", of course, is not an indicator, it is too noticeable, but load several hundred "Shaheds" on it, and together with reconnaissance vehicles, which will play the role of spotters, you get a very good attack ship.


We do not forget that the Shahed-136 is many times cheaper than any missile, and intercepting and shooting it down is still a problem, and an expensive one at that. And destroying the energy structure of any state with a wave of these devices is not such a difficult matter, as recent events have shown.

In general, everyone can figure out the development line themselves, it's not difficult. Well, what these complicated Persians really wanted as a result - we will see over time. But there is such a thought - everything is too simple with this drone carrier. But once upon a time the whole world laughed heartily at a plastic rattle with a gasoline engine and ten kilograms of explosives. And the most advanced gentlemen stroked their cruise missiles. And it turned out that it was the rattles that staged a lockout in half of Ukraine, and now half the world is queuing to Iran for them.

You can laugh at this strange Iranian drone carrier. But perhaps you shouldn't. It's better to see where all this leads.
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  1. +7
    19 February 2025 05: 05
    Is it possible to use Bagheri as 1/2 of an aircraft carrier, i.e. only for takeoff? Strike aircraft take off near, so to speak, a conventional enemy, reducing reaction time to a minimum. And after the strike, the aircraft return to land airfields, because Bagheri ceases to exist by that time - why plan a landing? And this is even without the Islamic "fighters for the faith".
    1. -2
      19 February 2025 08: 40
      It is not at all clear how justified it is to create a drone carrier in conditions where Iran’s main striking force is missile boats and submarines.
      1. 0
        19 February 2025 11: 38
        Incorrect statement: missile boats are good for blocking the Strait of Hormuz, but you can't fit more than 10 cruise missiles on a submarine. An aircraft carrier will take on much more weapons.
    2. +2
      19 February 2025 08: 44
      Theoretically, everything is possible: but what's the point? An aircraft carrier-drone carrier is designed to project force over 1000 km. That is, it is necessary to bring it to the hostile shores at this distance and launch aircraft-UAV-drones. In this case, the aircraft carrier will be closer than the allied shore in any case. But yes, this is possible.
      1. +1
        19 February 2025 11: 09
        The Persian intelligence ship was quietly in the Red Sea and collecting information for the Houthis. No one did anything to it. Well, they tried to force it out of some areas with dangerous maneuvers, it moved to the neighboring one. In principle, nothing changed. So this one will "hang around" somewhere in the middle of the sea (ocean) - until the right moment.
    3. +1
      19 February 2025 10: 38
      Quote: sofa
      And after the strike, the planes return to land airfields, because by this time "Bagheri" ceases to exist - why plan a landing?

      Add speedboats on which the ship's crew will run away and that's it.
      Although it is a bit expensive of course.
    4. 0
      20 February 2025 00: 01
      Leading naval powers abandoned such aircraft carrier concepts back at the end of the First World War - it was too pointless, disposable aircraft. It is not suitable for long-range missions or convoys, and the problem with flight range has long been solved by external tanks or fuel tankers, and solved much more successfully than with the help of this incomplete "jump airfield". The most logical thing is training and simply a question of prestige, like look what we can do.
      1. +1
        20 February 2025 07: 46
        a disposable plane is cheaper than a disposable pilot. And if the disposable plane also returns for recharging and refueling, then of course it will be more profitable.
        But in general, we need to understand how to defeat the enemy cost-effectively. Maybe drone carriers are also beneficial, both surface and underwater and flying...
        1. 0
          24 February 2025 22: 09
          A false contrast, it is not a pilot with an airplane versus a disposable unmanned aircraft, but a reusable drone versus a disposable one. Most disposable drones are launched without major modifications at all, without a runway, and if we are talking about heavy drones, like the modification of light motorized ones Ukrainians, then you always have to understand that something like this is simply a degraded missile. And Iran doesn't seem to have any particular problems with missiles, and for them too, such alterations are unnecessary.
  2. +8
    19 February 2025 05: 23
    Well done, the Iranians... even under the most severe Western sanctions, they managed to raise their unmanned aviation to world-class standards.
    1. +10
      19 February 2025 08: 29
      So, if you steal from profit, and not from loss, you can move mountains.
    2. -3
      19 February 2025 08: 41
      creating this is also only half the battle, it is unclear how Iran plans to provide logistics and repairs to the ship in the conditions of sanctions and a shortage of spare parts
      1. 0
        19 February 2025 11: 10
        What's so complicated about that? The ship is based on a regular container ship. There are no problems at all with the hull and propulsion system.
    3. -2
      19 February 2025 20: 57
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      In the face of the West's harshest sanctions, they managed to raise their unmanned aviation to world-class standards.

      In fact, what they launched in their propaganda video looks like a model aircraft club, and not the use of combat UAVs.
  3. +10
    19 February 2025 05: 38
    People work. Without looking back at "partners". And they have a good mind.
  4. +3
    19 February 2025 06: 07
    Ha, and what is it, the world level?
    Apparently, right now some criteria are being formed/defined, by which the “world level” and so on and so forth will be determined...
  5. 0
    19 February 2025 06: 13
    If this "steamboat" was converted from a dry cargo ship for almost three years, then why wasn't the superstructure moved to one side and a continuous flight deck made? This is a very big operational minus, which crosses out all the advantages of the conversion.
    1. +9
      19 February 2025 06: 30
      Quote: Alexey 1970
      then why wasn't the superstructure moved to one side and a continuous flight deck made

      Because then the time and financial indicators of the project will appear in all their glory and will point out the absurdity of such a rework, since by all indicators it will differ little from the design and construction of a combat ship from scratch...
      1. +1
        19 February 2025 06: 34
        So it seems to me that it was not worth the trouble with such an alteration.
        1. +5
          19 February 2025 07: 04
          Quote: Alexey 1970
          There was no point in making a fuss with such an alteration.

          They are just using their capabilities. They don't have the strength for more yet...
  6. 0
    19 February 2025 06: 21
    A great ship to fight the Zionists.
    1. +2
      19 February 2025 08: 19
      Excellent, that is if Israel decides to sink this drone carrier and can't. But in this form, it will sink it quickly.
      1. -2
        19 February 2025 19: 20
        If low-yield nuclear charges are attached to the attack UAVs based on the drone carrier, it will fulfill its purpose, causing unacceptable damage to Israel, even if it dies with honor.
        1. +2
          20 February 2025 00: 05
          If you have nuclear warheads, then you need to put them on the hardest to shoot down delivery vehicles - ballistic missiles, and not on drones, which can be shot down by the hundreds without any problems. Actually, Iran already has such delivery vehicles, which it demonstrated in a recent strike, and there is no point in making a fuss about a drone carrier for this purpose.
          1. 0
            20 February 2025 08: 36
            You can hang a Davy Crockett or something like Castor Oil Plant on the drone. The decoy drones will go first to overload the air defense, then the drones with nuclear missiles, and then the cruise missiles and IRBMs with NWH will finish off.
            1. 0
              24 February 2025 22: 12
              But instead of this circus with horses, we can knock together a couple hundred more ballistic missiles with these resources and increase the chances and, most importantly, the time of hitting targets. Drones make sense when we are talking about cheap strike weapons for a protracted conflict of economies, and in a nuclear war it is not who can shower the enemy with mopeds longer that decides, but who will be the first to incinerate the enemy's will to resist.
  7. +1
    19 February 2025 07: 33
    Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
    A great ship to fight the Zionists.

    Let me ask you, what exactly is this ship good for fighting Zionists? Why are others not suitable for fighting Zionism, but this one is?
  8. +3
    19 February 2025 07: 55
    Here, most likely, different solutions are being tested at one point. And shipbuilders, missilemen, operators and many others hidden from view gain experience. Not bad at all.
    1. +2
      19 February 2025 08: 43
      Well, how can I say, the project looks more like a tactical experiment and a propaganda tool than a breakthrough in military shipbuilding. The main risk is that such ships can provoke local conflicts, without having sufficient stability to end them.
  9. +2
    19 February 2025 08: 39
    Of course, this example is surprising, but is the ship, deprived of a full-fledged air defense and electronic warfare system, capable of withstanding modern anti-ship missiles or air strikes? Will it not become an easy target for high-tech fleets (for example, the US Navy)? In my opinion, the Shahid Bagheri is not a real reinforcement of the Iranian Navy, it is rather a propaganda project to demonstrate "technological independence".
    1. +2
      19 February 2025 08: 56
      It is obvious that it is impossible to land an airplane on the Bagheri, a medium-sized drone can probably be flown around the superstructure if you manage to do something, a helicopter can be landed, obviously this ship is a carrier of disposable drones
    2. +6
      19 February 2025 09: 12
      Obviously it can't.
      Unless it is part of the guided missile frigates, which is also not particularly observed in Iran.
      I don't even really understand where Iran could use this. Against Turkey - no, they'll sink it. Against Iraq - no need, it doesn't pose a threat now. Against the US and Co. - it won't help, they'll sink it in a minute. Against the sheikhs in the Middle East - the same thing.
      The question of necessity is key.
  10. +4
    19 February 2025 09: 00
    So, what’s wrong, if it wasn’t originally intended that this was a UDC and/or an Aircraft Carrier?

    And what if we assume that it will only be a Drone Carrier, with automated launch of all drones, and with the evacuation of the crew before combat use (for example, on a built-in submarine)?

    This could result (if desired and necessary) in a super-heavy intercontinental naval universal strike disposable UAV with "various separating means of direct destruction". And let it be sunk after the crew has evacuated and all the drones have been launched.

    Actually, that's what he's called (but I don't really understand the specific meaning of the word) Shihid.
    1. PPD
      0
      19 February 2025 10: 27
      This doesn't require such an expensive and complicated rework.
      An ancient dry cargo tanker from a junkyard will be more than enough.
      There is no need to accept back the flying machines at all.
      This is a very ill-conceived project.
      1. +1
        19 February 2025 10: 50
        Nobody knows what it is yet, everyone is just guessing.

        it can be one (training), another (reusable combat against a weak enemy), and a third (one-time strike if necessary).

        ROC "Shahid" (not a cruise missile) lol
        1. PPD
          0
          19 February 2025 13: 55
          Well, there’s nothing to know here, it’s all nonsense.
          They are trying to adapt the UAV to the fleet.
          Before the SVO, the same ideas were circulating everywhere.
          Huge heavy drones are furrowing the expanses. As it turns out, they are furrowing while the enemy is not there.
          In reality, there are a bunch of quadcopters, almost a toy store. And there will be some here too.
          Maximum to support your fleet. Nothing more.
          1. +1
            20 February 2025 02: 17
            So be it.

            But for example
            Compared to a full-size manned aircraft, a large series of the shown drones can also be compared in terms of the difference in labor costs and, especially, in losses as an ATGM and FVP drone.

            Again, no one is prohibiting the launch of hundreds and thousands of smaller drones from this carrier using catapults and/or container installations, including those with defensive anti-aircraft and anti-ship missile functions.
            1. PPD
              0
              20 February 2025 17: 07
              At sea the distances are different.
              Wind, etc. Small things simply won't fly.
              Well, any large ship is like a grenade from a quadcopter.
              UAVs must be large - with the corresponding capability to destroy them.
              And nobody has cancelled electronic warfare either. You can't hide behind a pine tree.
              1. 0
                21 February 2025 09: 45
                Those black ones like stealth, can't they fly far (especially one way)?

                No one prohibits the use of quadcopters (including the BEK drone carrier against attackers), but no one obliges them either.

                Well, in general, this is an endless dialogue. I think we will still see non-standard options for using this "Device".

                We'll live to see.
  11. +3
    19 February 2025 09: 14
    Something reminds me of it ...
    1. 0
      20 February 2025 02: 20
      the containers on the sides are just begging to be converted into Drone Launch Systems.

      and install other retractable remote-controlled artillery and missile weapons stations on the upper containers.
  12. 0
    19 February 2025 09: 23
    That's all with this Iranian! The question needs to be asked differently. What's wrong with our UDCs and where are they anyway?
    1. -2
      19 February 2025 10: 53
      here, the barbecue grills are factory-made on an industrial scale - "the problem".

      No one really needs this except the people.
      1. 0
        20 February 2025 02: 24
        oh, the minus-voters were really offended (for the country, I suppose!?)
  13. +1
    19 February 2025 09: 33
    A worthy cause, IMHO. Cheap, experimental, cheerful, for study.
    In any case, UAVs require fewer decks, area, etc. And there are a lot of unfriendly Arab countries around with oil production, tankers, and not the strongest Navy, Armed Forces, and Air Defense.

    The main thing is that he doesn't interfere with the Jews and Americans.
  14. -1
    19 February 2025 11: 00
    The article was written in a hurry.
    "Superstructure" instead of a wheelhouse.
    "Lockout" instead of blackout.
    1. 0
      19 February 2025 11: 10
      This drone carrier was not built for the seas and oceans, but for coastal navigation under the cover of coastal air defense within the Persian Gulf no further than the Strait of Hormuz, which is only 54 km wide. Given this circumstance, the drone carrier has some chances.
      1. +1
        19 February 2025 14: 16
        Why launch drones from a highly visible, vulnerable drone carrier if they can be launched from the coast of Iran, where it’s hard to track each launcher?
    2. 0
      22 February 2025 09: 09
      Tuning is the correct technical term. The wheelhouse does not cover the entire width of the ship/vessel hull.
      1. 0
        22 February 2025 12: 53
        Tuning is the correct technical term. The wheelhouse does not cover the entire width of the ship/vessel hull.

        So the talk was specifically about cutting down.
  15. +2
    19 February 2025 11: 16
    This ship can put the entire oil industry of one of the neighboring countries out of action. And if you add drone-carrying corvettes to it, it will be dangerous for the fleets as well.
  16. +2
    19 February 2025 13: 21
    Reminds me of the British Atlantic Conveyor, which the Argentinians burned with 2 Exocets. The ship sank after being completely burned out.
    1. +1
      19 February 2025 17: 05
      The Atlantic Conveyor was a NON-converted container ship that was mobilized to transport Harriers.
      Additionally, several block containers with workshops and a hospital were placed on the deck.
      And here is a VERY armed ship.
      1. 0
        20 February 2025 10: 07
        Relatively armed, it won't save you from anti-ship missiles given its radar signature.
  17. +2
    19 February 2025 16: 48
    Something automatic, and I think it has Soviet roots. The caliber seems to be about 76 mm, like on the Moudge-class frigates.

    They write that it is not 76 mm, but 30 mm.
    And behind, on the sides of the ski jump, there is something like that, obviously from the air defense.

    Launcher of the Kowsar-222 air defense missile system.
  18. 0
    20 February 2025 14: 59
    Well done Iranians, now they will work out technologies for unmanned aircraft operation from sea carriers and in a few years they will build a real aircraft carrier, and most likely several aircraft carriers...
  19. 0
    20 February 2025 17: 21
    Actually, Iran has a fighter that was originally made for takeoff and landing on aircraft carriers, the F-14 naval fighter.
  20. 0
    22 February 2025 09: 03
    I wonder how things are going with the AWACS? If there is something good, then this product can be called a successful project.
  21. AVP
    0
    23 February 2025 09: 54
    It is highly unlikely that airplanes will be able to fly from it. It is not only the size of the runway that is the issue. It must also have certain properties - not melt from the gas jets of the turbojet engine, withstand large point loads during aircraft landing. For drones, all this is not so critical, the weight is less, the engines are mainly piston, and those with a gas turbine are smaller, and are unlikely to use a screen during takeoff. These would all be disadvantages, but the ship was hardly planned for airplanes, so for its purposes, it seems to be OK.
  22. 0
    24 February 2025 05: 48
    I wonder if anyone has tried to divide aircraft decks by levels into:
    * Landing (the top one) and
    * Takeoff (one floor below)

    Let the helicopters take off from the Landing Strip (away from the actual landing strips).

    Is there anything to read on this topic?
    Thank you.