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Byzantine intrigues in the Kremlin

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Byzantine intrigues in the KremlinThe power struggle in the late USSR was accompanied by a series of strange deaths.


Recently, March 11 passed 28 years from the day that Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev was elected General Secretary at the Plenum of the CPSU Central Committee. Today it is obvious that his rule was a succession of betrayals and crimes, which resulted in the collapse of the Soviet power. It is symbolic that Gorbachev's coming to power was due to the chain of gloomy Kremlin intrigues.

We will tell you about a series of strange deaths of elderly Politburo members who, as it were, competed for Mikhail Sergeevich to quickly ascend to the party throne and begin his disastrous experiments. But first let us turn to the personality of the Chairman of the USSR KGB, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov (in the photo). It was his insatiable desire to become the head of the party and the state that spring, which, in the end, threw to the top of the power pyramid of Gorbachev.

It is known that Andropov, until the death of Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev, was not considered as a candidate for the highest party post. Having become the Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee in 1967 year, he understood that the absolute majority of the members of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee would not support his claims to the General Secretary. The only solution for Andropov was waiting and timely elimination of competitors. The head of the secret service had enough opportunities for that.

In this regard, some researchers suggest the following version of events unfolding on the Old Square in 1976-1982. Andropov’s plan was as follows. On the one hand, to ensure that Brezhnev is General Secretary until Andropov has real chances to become the first person himself, and on the other, to ensure discredit or elimination of other contenders for the General Secretary.

A powerful ally of Andropov in the implementation of this plan was the secretary of the CPSU Central Committee on defense issues and a candidate member of the Politburo, Dmitry Fedorovich Ustinov. But, apparently, Ustinov did not guess the ultimate goal of Asropov’s aspirations. He was a supporter of the remaining Brezhnev in the post of General Secretary, as he had unlimited influence on Leonid Ilyich. Thanks to this, Ustinov himself and the issues of improving the country's defense were at the forefront.

A full understanding of Andropov and Ustinov on this issue was established during the preparations for the XXV CPSU Congress, which took place from February 24 to March 5, 1976.

Brezhnev, due to deteriorating health, wanted at this congress to pass on the reins to Grigori Vasilyevich Romanov, who at that time had a reputation as an extremely honest, absolutely not corrupt person, a tough, intelligent technocrat who was prone to social innovations and experiments.
53-year-old Romanov was always tucked up, with gray hair on his temples, he was very impressive. Both this and the sharp mind of Romanov were noted by many foreign leaders.

Romanov was extremely unwelcome to Andropov and Ustinov. He was younger than Andropov by 9 years, Ustinov by 15, and Brezhnev by 17 years. For Andropov, the General Secretary Romanov meant a rejection of plans, and for Ustinov, who was considered the head of the so-called “narrow circle” of the Politburo, which had previously resolved all the most important issues, the loss of a privileged position in the Politburo.

Andropov and Ustinov also understood that Romanov would immediately retire them. In this regard, they, with the support of Suslov, Gromyko and Chernenko, managed to convince Brezhnev of the need to remain as General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.

Romanov Andropov neutralized the most banal way. A rumor was launched that the wedding of the younger daughter Romanov was held with the “imperial” luxury in the Tauride Palace, for which dishes were taken from the Hermitage’s storerooms. And although the wedding was in 1974, they remembered it for some reason in 1976. As a result, the career of Romanov was stalled.

Distributors of false information about the wedding of Romanov's daughter were made not only by the inhabitants, but also by the first secretaries of city committees and district committees of the CPSU of the north-west of the USSR. They underwent retraining at the courses of the Leningrad Higher Party School, which at that time was located in the Tauride Palace. Being in the courses in 1981, I personally heard this misinformation from the senior teacher of the department of foreign workers Dyachenko, who conducted an excursion for students of the courses in the Tauride Palace. She confided to us that, ostensibly, she was present at this wedding.

Meanwhile, it is known for certain that Romanov did not allow himself any excesses. He lived all his life in a two-room apartment. The wedding of his youngest daughter took place in the state dacha. It was attended by all 10 guests, and Grigori Vasilyevich himself was seriously late for the wedding dinner due to his employment time.

Romanov appealed to the Central Committee of the CPSU with a request to give a public refutation of slander. But in response, he only heard "do not pay attention to the little things." Then Tsekov's clever men would know, and among them was Konstantin Ustinovich Chernenko, that with this answer they accelerated the collapse of the CPSU and the USSR ...

But not only Romanov, but also the USSR Minister of Defense Andrei Grechko interfered with Andropov. Due to the fact that during the war Brezhnev served under him, the marshal torpedoed the decisions of the General Secretary more than once. This is not surprising. Stately handsome, almost two meters tall, Andrei Antonovich, by vocation, was a commander. The matter came to the direct attacks of Marshal of the Soviet Union on the General Secretary directly at the meetings of the Politburo. Brezhnev patiently demolished them.

Grechko had no problems with the KGB. But he did not hide his negative attitude to the growth of the bureaucratic structures of the Committee and the strengthening of its influence. This gave rise to a certain tension in his relationship with Andropov. Ustinov also hardly divided the sphere of influence with the Minister of Defense. He, as early as June 1941, who became the People's Commissar of Armaments, considered himself a man who had done more than anyone to strengthen the country's defense capability, and did not need anyone's advice.

And in the evening of April 26 1976, Marshal Grechko arrived after work at the dacha, went to bed and did not wake up in the morning. Contemporaries noted that he, despite his 72 of the year, could give young people a head start in many matters.

Considering that the death of Grechko was involved in the Andropov department is very problematic, if not for one circumstance. Strange is that after the death of the marshal, several more members of the Politburo died in a similar way.

Of course, all people are mortal, but it is strange that they all died somehow very on time ... In 1978, Andropov complained to the main Kremlin physician, Yevgeny Ivanovich Chazov, that he did not know how to transfer Gorbachev to Moscow. A month later, in a “miraculous” way, a vacancy arose, the place of Fedor Davydovich Kulakov, secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU for agricultural issues, was released, just under Gorbachev.

Kulakov, like Grechko, arrived at the dacha, sat with the guests, went to bed and did not wake up. People who knew him closely, argued that Kulakov was healthy, like a bull, did not know what a headache or cold, was an incorrigible optimist. Strange were the circumstances of the death of Kulakov. The night before, the guard and personal doctor attached to each member of the Politburo left his cottage under various pretexts.

He wrote about this in the book “Last Secretary General” Viktor Alekseevich Kaznacheev, the former second secretary of the Stavropol Regional Committee of the CPSU, who knew the Kulakov family well. The treasurers also reported another curious fact. 17 July 1978, at half past eight in the morning, Gorbachev called him and very cheerfully, without a single note of regret, said that Kulakov had died. It turns out that Gorbachev learned this news almost simultaneously with the country's top leadership. Strange awareness for the party leader of one of the provincial regions of the country. One feels the trail of Andropov, who favored Gorbachev.

Death Kulakov spawned many rumors. At the dacha, where Fyodor Davydovich died, the chairman of the KGB Andropov himself came with two task forces. Death stated Chazov personally. The detailed, but at the same time very confusing report of the special medical commission headed by him, caused great suspicion among specialists. It was also strange that neither Brezhnev, nor Kosygin, nor Suslov, nor Chernenko came to Red Square for the funeral of Kulakov. At the funeral, they limited themselves to speaking from the rostrum of the Mausoleum of the first secretary of the Stavropol Krai Committee of the Party, M. Gorbachev.

Officially, TASS reported that on the night from 16 to 17 on June 1978, F.D. Kulakov "died of acute heart failure with sudden cardiac arrest." At the same time, the KGB spread rumors that Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee F. Kulakov, after an unsuccessful attempt to seize power, cut his veins ...

No less strangely, the first deputy chairman of the KGB, Semyon Kuzmich Tsvigun, one of the trusted people of Brezhnev, passed away. He, 19 January 1982, that is, 4 a month before Andropov’s transfer from the KGB to the Central Committee of the CPSU, shot himself in the country. People of this rank have many reasons to shoot, but in the case of Zwigun there are too many “buts”.

It seems that someone really did not want this general to head the KGB in the event of Andropov’s departure. At the end of 1981, Tsvigun, who did not complain about his health, at the insistence of the doctors, went to the Kremlin hospital for examination. His daughter Violet was amazed when she found out what drugs were prescribed to her father. He was pumped throughout the day with various tranquilizers.

They try to explain this by the fact that Tsvigun was depressed after an extremely unpleasant conversation with Mikhail Andreyevich Suslov, the second person in the Politburo about Galina Brezhneva's involvement in the case of the stolen diamonds of circus actress Irina Bugrimova. However, it is known for certain that Tsvigun and Suslov did not and could not meet at the end of 1981.

Despite the “strange” course of treatment, Zvigun did not lose his vitality. According to the official version, on the day of the so-called suicide, he and his wife decided to go to the dacha to check how the protracted repair was going. The circumstances of Zwigun's “suicide” are also more than strange. He asked for a pistol from the driver of the car he arrived at, and one went into the house. However, on the porch of the dacha, where no one saw him, he took it and shot himself. I did not leave a suicide note.

Andropov, who arrived at the place of Tsvigun's death, dropped the phrase: “I will not forgive Tsvigun to them!” At the same time, it is known that Tsvigun was a Brezhnev man sent to the KGB to supervise Andropov. Perhaps this phrase Andropov decided to divert suspicion from himself.

Zwigun's daughter Violetta believes that her father was killed. This indirectly confirms the fact that her attempts to get acquainted with the materials of the investigation of the "suicide" of her father were unsuccessful. These documents are not in the archives.

The famous Russian historian N., at the beginning of 2009, gave me new details about Zwigun’s death. It turns out that Tsvigun did not come, but spent the night at the dacha. Before leaving for work, when he was already sitting in the car, the security officer said that Semen Kuzmich was invited to the phone. He returned to the house, and then a fatal shot sounded. Next, the corpse of the general carried out on the street. Believe it or not, this information was allegedly obtained from people who were investigating the circumstances of Zwigun’s death.

By the fall of 1981, Brezhnev's health deteriorated. Chazov informed Andropov about this. He understood that the main contender for the post of General Secretary should work in the Central Committee on Old Square. The traditional problem of vacancy has reappeared. And here Suslov dies in an extremely timely manner ...

Valery Legostaev, former Assistant Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Yegor Kuzmich Ligachev, tells about this: “Suslov and in the eighth dozen complained about the medical part except for pain in the joints of the arm. He died in January 1982 th original. In the sense of the original, that before his death Chazov’s department successfully passed a planned medical examination: blood from a vein, blood from a finger, an ECG, a bicycle ... And all this, notice, on the best equipment in the USSR, under the supervision of the best Kremlin doctors. The result is normal: there are no special problems, you can go to work. He called his daughter's house, offered to have supper together in the hospital, so that in the morning he would immediately go to work. At dinner, the nurse brought some pills. He drank. Night stroke.

It is noteworthy that Chazov had told Brezhnev in advance of Suslov’s imminent death. The assistant of Brezhnev Alexandrov-Agents told about it in his memoirs. He writes: “At the beginning of 1982, Leonid Ilyich took me to the far corner of his reception room at the Central Committee and, lowering his voice, said:“ Chazov called me. Suslov will die soon. I think to transfer him to the Andropov Central Committee. Indeed, Yuri is stronger than Chernenko - an erudite, creative-minded person. "" As a result, Yuri Vladimirovich 24 May 1982, again becomes secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, but now occupies the office of Suslova.

There is a version that the transfer of Andropov to the Central Committee of the CPSU was carried out on the initiative of Brezhnev, who was frightened by the lack of control and absolute power of the secret service chief. It was not by chance that, at the insistence of the General Secretary, V. Fedorchuk, the chairman of the KGB of Ukraine, a close friend of the first secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine Vladimir Vasilyevich Scherbitsky, who was hostile to Andropov, was appointed instead of Andropov.

In this case, all the talk about what Brezhnev saw in his Andropov his successor is nothing more than speculation. It is also known that Brezhnev was well informed about the health problems of Andropov. At that time, Brezhnev considered his successor to the previously mentioned Scherbitsky.

In 1982, Vladimir Vasilyevich Scherbitsky turned 64, the normal age for the highest statesman. By this time he had a great experience of political and economic work. So he decided to bet on Brezhnev. Well, for calm and better control, the Secretary General decided to transfer Andropov closer to his Central Committee.

Former first secretary of the Moscow City Party Committee Viktor Vasilyevich Grishin in his memoirs “From Khrushchev to Gorbachev” wrote: “V. Fedorchuk was transferred from the post of chairman of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR. Surely on the recommendation of V.V. Scherbitsky, perhaps the closest person to L.I. Brezhnev, who, according to rumors, wanted to recommend Scherbitsky, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, at the next Plenum of the Central Committee, and go to the post of Chairman of the Central Committee of the Party himself. ”

Ivan Vasilyevich Kapitonov, who in Brezhnev's times was the secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU for personnel, spoke more specifically about this. He recalled: “In mid-October, 1982, Brezhnev called me to him.

- See this chair? he asked, pointing to his workplace. - In a month Scherbitsky will be sitting in it. All personnel issues decide with this in mind. ”

After this conversation at a meeting of the Politburo, it was decided to convene a Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU. The first was to discuss the question of accelerating scientific and technological progress. The second, closed - organizational question. However, a few days before the plenum, Leonid Ilyich died unexpectedly.

General Secretary Brezhnev at the end of 70-s did not have good health. The feeling of decrepitude created difficulties in his speech and sclerotic forgetfulness (which was the subject of many anecdotes). However, ordinary old people (even without Kremlin care) in a state of deep sclerosis often live very long. Is it possible to consider the natural death of Brezhnev, which followed the night from 9 to 10 in November 1982?

Here is information for consideration. On the eve of the Plenum, Brezhnev decided to enlist the support of Andropov regarding the recommendation of Shcherbitsky’s candidature for the post of General Secretary. On this occasion, he invited Andropov.

V. Legostaev described the day of the meeting between Brezhnev and Andropov: “That day Oleg Zakharov worked as secretary on duty at the General Secretary’s reception, with whom I had long-standing friendly relations ... In the morning of November 9, Medvedev called him from Zavidov, who said that the Secretary General would come to the Kremlin in the 9 clock area and asks to invite Andropov by this time. What was done.

Brezhnev arrived at the Kremlin around 12 in the afternoon hours in a good mood, rested from the festive fuss. As always, he greeted me cordially, joked, and immediately invited Andropov to the office. They talked for a long time, apparently, the meeting was of a normal business nature. I do not have the slightest doubt that Zakharov accurately recorded the fact of the last long meeting of Brezhnev and Andropov. ”

However, after this conversation on the night from 9 to 10 in November 1982, Brezhnev in a dream, like Grechko, Fists and Suslov, died quietly. Again, this death was accompanied by a series of oddities. So, Chazov in the book "Health and Power" states that he received a message about the death of Brezhnev by telephone on 8 in the morning on November 10. However, it is known that the head of the personal security service of Brezhnev, V. Medvedev, in his book “The Man Behind His Back,” reports that he and the officer on duty Sobachenkov entered the Secretary General’s bedroom at about nine o'clock. And only then it turned out that Leonid Ilyich died.

Then Chazov claims that Andropov came after him to Brezhnev’s dacha. However, the wife of Brezhnev, Victoria Petrovna, reported that Andropov appeared even before Chazov arrived, immediately after it became clear that Brezhnev was dead. Without saying a word to anyone, he went into the bedroom, took a small black suitcase there and left.

Then he officially appeared for the second time, pretending that he had not been here. Victoria Petrovna could not answer the question about what was in the suitcase. Leonid Ilyich told her that there was “compromising dirt on all members of the Politburo,” but he spoke with laughter, as if joking.

The son-in-law of Brezhnev, Yury Churbanov, confirmed: “Viktoriya Petrovna said that Andropov had already arrived and took the briefcase that Leonid Ilyich was holding in his bedroom. It was a specially protected "armored" briefcase with complex ciphers. What was there, I do not know. He trusted only one of the bodyguards, the shift supervisor, who drove him everywhere for Leonid Ilyich. He took and left. After Andropov Chazov arrived and recorded the death of the General Secretary.

To believe that this whole chain of deaths and eliminations was carried out in order to nominate Gorbachev is ridiculous. The main character here was Andropov, who sought to become the General Secretary.

By the way, many researchers are perplexed that Andropov, who was disliked by most Politburo members, was 12 of November 1982 of the year to ensure that the Political Bureau of the CPSU Central Committee unanimously recommended him to the Plenum of the CPSU Central Committee for the post of Secretary General. Apparently, this support for Andropov was provided by compromising material from Leonid Ilyich’s “armored portfolio”.

In analyzing the mysterious and strange deaths in the highest echelon of the USSR, one cannot disregard Western intelligence agencies, who, by virtue of their possibilities, tried to eliminate or neutralize promising Soviet leaders. There is no doubt that the articles of the Western press, praising Romanov, Kulakov, Masherov as candidates for the post of General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, served as an impetus for their elimination; some politically, others physically.

Given that the evidence about the direct involvement of the KGB in these strange deaths is missing and is unlikely to ever be discovered, we can only hypothetically argue about the role of Andropov in the struggle for power.

There is no doubt that for many years of work in the KGB, Andropov began not only to operate with concepts of special services, but also to act from their positions. For the special services of any country, human life in itself is not a value. The value of a person caught in their field of vision, is determined only by whether it contributes to the achievement of the goal or interferes.

Hence the pragmatic approach: everything that interferes must be eliminated. No emotion, nothing personal, just a calculation. Otherwise, the secret services never solved the tasks assigned to them. Objection is possible: with respect to high-ranking party workers, especially candidates and members of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, the possibilities of the KGB were limited.

However, many members of the Politburo of the Brezhnev period recalled that they felt the attention of the KGB every day.

Andropov’s ability to control the highest party elite has increased many times after he managed to win over the head of the 4 General Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Health Yevgeny Ivanovich Chazov. Andropov and Chazov were appointed to their posts almost simultaneously, in 1967. They developed very close, if I may say so, relations. This Chazov repeatedly emphasizes in his memoirs.

Andropov and Chazov met regularly. According to Legostaev, their secret meetings took place either on Saturdays in the office of the KGB chairman on Sq. Dzerzhinsky, or at his safe house on the Garden Ring, near the Theater of Satire.

The topic of Andropov and Chazov’s conversations was the state of health of the highest party and state leaders of the USSR, the alignment of forces in the Politburo and, accordingly, possible personnel changes. It is known how attentive the elderly are to the advice of the attending physician. The frankness of senior elderly patients was also quite high. Well, it’s not possible to speak about the possibilities of doctors to influence the physiological and psychological state of patients.

In this regard, you need to tell one historywhich sets out in the book "Temporary workers. The fate of national Russia. Her friends and enemies ”famous Soviet weightlifter, Olympic champion, talented writer Yury Petrovich Vlasov. He cites a unique testimony of a pharmacist at the Kremlin’s pharmacy, who made up medicines for high-ranking patients.

According to the pharmacist, at times a modest, inconspicuous person came to the pharmacy. He was from the KGB. After reviewing the recipes, the “man” piped the dispenser with a package and said: “Add this powder to the patient (tablet, medicine, etc.).”

Everything has been dosed there. These were not poisonous drugs. Supplements simply aggravated the patient's illness and over time he died a natural death. The so-called “programmed death” was launched. (Y. Vlasov. "The Provisionists ..." M., 2005. C. 87).

Most likely, the person who came to the pharmacist was really from the KGB. However, who gave him assignments, it is difficult to say. It is possible that someone "above", fighting for power, cleared his way. But it’s impossible to establish whether the owner of the “KGB man” worked for himself or for someone else.

The secret deadly struggle in the higher echelons for power was also a very convenient cover for the intervention of foreign intelligence services. It is known that not only Kalugin and Gordievsky worked for the KGB in the West.

In confirmation of the fact that in the USSR the sign-board of the special services, as a cover, was often used by people who solved their problems, we present the following fact. In the 1948-1952 in the territory of Western Ukraine and Moldova, which was under the special control of the NKVD, there was a huge private construction organization hiding under the sign of the “Department of Military Construction-10” of the USSR Ministry of Defense.

Its leader, the swindler "Colonel" Nikolai Pavlenko, using the atmosphere of secrecy that prevailed in those years, presented his administration as having to do with the fulfillment of special tasks of national importance. This eliminated questions and allowed the pseudo-colonel and his entourage to appropriate all profits from the construction of facilities. At present, Russian television is showing the TV movie "Black Wolves", partly based on the above facts.

If during Stalin's time, swindlers could hide behind the sign of the NKVD, then in the Brezhnev period, agents of the Western special services could hide behind the KGB with no less success. In short, to attribute the strange deaths that occurred during the Brezhnev period, the KGB is problematic. Moreover, the strange untimely death in those years, in most cases, struck the most steadfast adherents of the socialist path of development.

Recall that 20 December 1984, the sudden death overtook Defense Minister Ustinov. Chazov in his book Health and Power (p. 206) writes that “Ustinov’s death itself was to a certain extent ridiculous and left many questions about the causes and nature of the disease.” According to Chazov, it turns out that the Kremlin doctors did not determine from what Ustinov died?

Ustinov fell ill after conducting joint exercises of the Soviet and Czechoslovak troops in Czechoslovakia. Chazov notes “a surprising coincidence - about the same time, General Dzur also fell ill with the same clinical picture”, the then Minister of Defense of Czechoslovakia, who conducted exercises with Ustinov.

Meanwhile, the official cause of death of Dmitry Ustinov and Martin Dzura is “acute heart failure”. For the same reason, two more ministers of defense died during 1985: Heinz Hoffmann, the Minister of National Defense of the GDR and Istvan Olah, the Minister of Defense of the Hungarian People's Republic.

A number of researchers believe that these deaths thwarted the planned entry in 1984 of the Soviet, Czechoslovak, Gedeer and Hungarian troops into Poland. However, whether the deaths of the ministers of defense of the Warsaw Pact countries were the work of Western intelligence agencies, while remains unknown. But the fact that the American special services considered the physical elimination of the leaders of other states to be normal is not a secret. Only the leader of the Cuban revolution, F. Castro, more than six hundred attempts were made, a number of them with the help of poisons.

As for the testimony of the old pharmacist, it is not confirmed by anyone or anyone except Y. Vlasov. But it cannot be ignored, since the information comes from a person who always, in Brezhnev and in troubled Yeltsin time, personified the “conscience of the Russian people”.

The pharmacist was convinced that only Vlasov would dare to publicize his confession and thereby help to remove sin from his soul. This is what happened. But we will not demonize this evidence, as confirmation of the "inhumanity" of the Soviet regime. The struggle for power, even “to the grave”, is also characteristic of Western democracies, and in general for all times ... Suffice to say that today it has actually been proved that one of the leaders of the conspiracy that led to the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy in 1963, was vice president L. Johnson.

It is known that historians prefer to make a final assessment of the reliability of certain events, based on documentary evidence. However, in some cases, even the availability of official documents can not guarantee the establishment of truth.

Sometimes eyewitness accounts are worth more than a mountain of documents. So in our case. Evidence of the old pharmacist, apparently, should be taken as sufficiently weighty evidence about the methods of struggle for power that took place on the Kremlin Olympus.

It is claimed that Gorbachev initially participated in this struggle. It is difficult to agree with this. Before the death of Brezhnev, Gorbachev was only an extra in the struggle of Andropov for power. But on the eve of the death of Andropov, which followed in February 1984, Gorbachev was actively involved in this struggle.

But then he lost.

The members of the Politburo preferred to make a bet on the predictable, convenient, though mortally ill Konstantin Ustinovich Chernenko. The election of a weak old man as the head of a great power was evidence that the system of higher political power in the USSR was seriously, or rather, fatally ill.

For Gorbachev, the election of a feeble Chernenko meant the beginning of the last crucial stage of the struggle for power. As subsequent events showed, Mikhail Sergeevich was able to masterfully implement his plans to attain the post of General Secretary.
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  1. Tartary
    Tartary 30 March 2013 10: 25
    +9
    Like it or not, but the result of the article, as I would not like to fix the story, nevertheless leads to Gobachev .... And there is Raisa, etc., etc. ...
    And-and-and-and, let's go - "A troika is racing across Russia - Mishka, Raika, Perestroika" ...
    Note that even then, the speech in the popular definition of events sounded not the USSR, but Russia ...
    Interesting ...
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 30 March 2013 22: 46
      +5
      Quote: Tartary
      but the result of the article, as I would not like to correct the story, nevertheless leads to Gobachev .... And there is Raisa, etc., etc. ...
      And-and-and-and, let's go - "A troika is racing across Russia - Mishka, Raika, Perestroika" ...


      As the hunchback said: I'm not a careerist ...
      with ... the destroyer with the drunk of the USSR. No forgiveness to him
  2. Russian
    Russian 30 March 2013 10: 45
    15
    Hmm, nowadays I thought the dynasty we had was the Romanovs, and the Romanov could have become the gene sex, and the story would have been completely different. It turns out that the collapse of the Empire is connected with this surname, and the collapse of the USSR. The vicissitudes of fate.
    And the article is a huge plus! It was very interesting to read, albeit sad.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 30 March 2013 10: 54
      +5
      Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
      Seycham thought the dynasty we had was the Romanovs, and the gene could become a Roman sex

      It says, "History is capable of throwing out even more trickery."
      But it says .........
      But who actually throws them out?
      In an accident, I do not believe something ...........
    2. vezunchik
      vezunchik 30 March 2013 12: 50
      +2
      Eh guys, you can write everything. But who needs this article? In whose interests is it written?
      1. Zeus
        Zeus 30 March 2013 13: 27
        +3
        And in your opinion, in whose?
      2. yak69
        yak69 30 March 2013 23: 36
        +7
        Personally, I have a lot of questions for the Andropov KGB (to its top). After analyzing a lot of open sources, including the recollections of the leaders of those years, I come to the conclusion that it is on the andropov that the points of destructive influence on many social groups converge. and state. processes. in USSR. Humpbacked and N.I. Ryzhkov themselves openly acknowledge the protection of Andropov over the hunchback.
        In addition, I happened to hear a lot of interesting things from the son of a general who was in charge of a well-known operation in Czechoslovakia, from the son of Shelest and from the nephew of a member of the Politburo Ponomarev, V.N. Ponomarev. His father (and the brother of Ponomarev, a member of the Politburo) was an advisor-envoy to Poland in the 80s. I had a chance to work with these people and in private conversations many "difficult" moments of our history were openly announced.
        By the way, the son of Ponomarev V.N. is Ilya Ponomarev, now a deputy of the State Duma, his mother is L.N. Ponomareva (wife of Ponomarev V.N.) for many years "ruled" the finances of Abramovich (now she is a senator in the Federation Council from the ChAO).
        1. Zeus
          Zeus 31 March 2013 11: 07
          +4
          And write an article. It would be interesting to read. In history as well as astrophysics - the more answers you get, the more questions there are.
          1. yak69
            yak69 April 2 2013 23: 03
            0
            Quote: Zeus
            And write an article. It would be interesting to read.

            Interesting offer, but ......
            I still want to live. This is so nice at times. laughing
            1. sleepy
              sleepy April 3 2013 01: 21
              0
              Quote: yak69
              "Interesting proposal, but ..."
              .

              You can write memoirs by hand and keep them scanned on the Internet with a password,
              and burn the manuscript after scanning.
              After 40 years, it will be interesting to re-read, otherwise, over time, many details will be forgotten.
              and only horns and legs will remain of the memories ...
  3. gizz
    gizz 30 March 2013 11: 13
    +4
    The top forgot about the enemies and snapped among themselves for power. This is not the first or even the hundredth time that happens, and not only here but everywhere. It’s only a shame that every time people pay with their lives.
  4. Bresh
    Bresh 30 March 2013 11: 16
    +9
    It’s very sad that everything turned out that way. Lord save Russia ..
  5. Wolland
    Wolland 30 March 2013 11: 16
    -1
    Yes, and all those who were put in mind were old people in the truest sense of the word, try at that time to say that someone was sick or someone became ill, impeachment immediately.
  6. patriot2
    patriot2 30 March 2013 11: 16
    0
    Power is such a sweet and dangerous thing that you never know when you will fall and from what. This article confirms this idea ... the Kremlin beckons many ...
  7. Seaman
    Seaman 30 March 2013 11: 26
    +2
    Yeah! Spiders in the jar! It's sad to remember that time! Such a country about .... whether!
  8. wax
    wax 30 March 2013 12: 09
    +4
    As soon as the reader has swallowed "some researchers who believe ...", then the "noodles" enticingly twist randomly and in any direction.
  9. Aeneas
    Aeneas 30 March 2013 12: 12
    +7
    After all, sole authority is not good. Throws "out of the fire and into the dimness." A strong leader will definitely be replaced by some clever rogue, and the leader himself often degrades in time. It is not for nothing that Deng Xiaoping bequeathed to change the leaders of China every 7 years. And he himself was the first to show an example.
  10. dropout
    dropout 30 March 2013 12: 17
    +2
    Secrets of the Madrid court. It would be funny if ...........................
  11. Rezun
    Rezun 30 March 2013 12: 41
    0
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%E2%E5%E4,_%C2%EB%E0%E4%E8%F1%EB%E0%E2_%CD%E8%EA
    %EE%EB%E0%E5%E2%E8%F7

    Another unrecognized "genius" ...
  12. Black
    Black 30 March 2013 12: 44
    +2
    "Yes, man is mortal, but that would be half the trouble. The bad thing is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that's the trick!"

    It turned out that the USSR was suddenly "suddenly" mortal. Who pulled the threads and led the country to severe heart failure, I think we will not know soon.
  13. vezunchik
    vezunchik 30 March 2013 13: 03
    +6
    See how easily distrust sows. Wrote an article, started a rumor .. and that's it! You always need to have an opinion, and not give in so easily to someone else!
    This is a classic example of how the USSR fell in the 80s! Here are the same articles and rumors .... It's a shame ...
  14. Zeus
    Zeus 30 March 2013 13: 32
    +2
    In the article, almost the only speculation. And the facts are dumb. As a version - interesting. But without proof, this will remain a faded version.
  15. VenDora
    VenDora 30 March 2013 13: 33
    +3
    The fifth column has always existed - this is a common practice. And how many of them are now divorced all sorts of "human rights defenders" of American interests
  16. Atlon
    Atlon 30 March 2013 13: 38
    +4
    An interesting and controversial article ... The truth somehow does not fit with the personality of Andropov. However, we still do not know many secrets, and we will never know. Probably, as a version, has the right to life ...
  17. knn54
    knn54 30 March 2013 14: 00
    +3
    You can add to this list the mysterious death of Masherov ...
    1. However, many members of the Politburo of the Brezhnev period recalled that they felt the attention of the KGB on a daily basis.
    The NKVD was only ONE of the many people's commissariats, albeit formally, but subordinate to the prime minister. Under Andropov, the KGB became subordinate to the Politburo ... But, in fact, this agency itself controlled everyone. The servant has become a master.
    2. When analyzing mysterious and strange deaths in the highest echelons of power of the USSR, one cannot ignore Western intelligence services, which tried to eliminate or neutralize promising Soviet leaders due to their capabilities.
    Since the beginning of 1978, abroad more and more persistently wrote about impending changes in the highest leadership of the USSR. Citing a serious Brezhnev’s disease, which it was difficult to get out of the state of clinical death, they predicted that Leonid Ilyich would retain the nominal post of Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, and Kulakov would become general secretary. Feldsvyaz regularly delivered reviews of the foreign press to Brezhnev, who was resting on the Black Sea, in which the strengths and weaknesses of the new general secretary were discussed. There were more strong ones: independent, principled, reformer, but without Khrushchev’s “tricks”. The last laudatory article from the London “Soviet Analyst” about Brezhnev’s successor in the Black Sea was delivered a few days before Kulakov’s death ...
    3. At that time, Brezhnev considered Shcherbitsky to be his successor.
    People close to Brezhnev later assured that if he had not died so unexpectedly on November 10, then literally a week later, on November 17 or 19, at the plenum of the Central Committee he would have named the name of his successor, Vladimir Vasilievich Shcherbitsky.
    PS It cannot be said that during these more than eight years that the future secretary general spent as the first secretary of the regional committee, there were no attempts to lure him to Moscow. According to Mikhail Sergeyevich himself, in the early seventies P. N. Demichev was interested in how he would react to the proposal to go to work in the Central Committee as the head of the propaganda department. Kulakov spoke about the post of Minister of Agriculture. The candidacy of the "spa secretary" was also discussed with regard to his appointment to the post of Prosecutor General of the USSR. According to the former chairman of Gosplan Baybakov, he offered Gorbachev the post of his deputy for agricultural affairs. However, in all cases, Mikhail Sergeyevich rejected such offers, expecting a high point. And he struck.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 30 March 2013 22: 49
      0
      Quote: knn54
      According to the former chairman of Gosplan Baybakov, he offered Gorbachev the post of his deputy for agricultural affairs. However, in all cases, Mikhail Sergeyevich rejected such offers, expecting a high point. And he struck.

      I expected. and he struck ...
      the humpback knew everything! - Mason, no?
  18. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 30 March 2013 14: 28
    +6
    The whole trouble of the USSR, and of today's Russia, is that the structure of power has converged and converges on one person, before on the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, now on the "guarantor of the Constitution" of the President of the Russian Federation.
    This is the "weak link" in the power structure in our state. The West and the United States have calculated this long ago.
    By knocking out (replacing "your own man") this one "weak link" you can easily destroy the entire chain - the entire state. This was done with relative ease when Gorbachev was nominated for the post of General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee.
    This mechanism of power, with the presence of a "weak link", having changed, has not changed its essence - weakness.
    The mortal struggle for leadership and power has passed from the Central Committee of the CPSU to a community of corrupt officials and bandits, who are at work with the highest state power and skillfully manipulating public consciousness in conducting election campaigns.
  19. family tree
    family tree 30 March 2013 15: 08
    +2
    From the series "Scandals, Intrigues, Investigations". Conspiracy theorists attack. Minus.
  20. Volkhov
    Volkhov 30 March 2013 15: 47
    +1
    Look at the problem as a whole - Russia has been a US colony since 1918, Andropov is the American Glen Miller, the deaths of generals and officials - prevention of a "Russian revolt" so that power does not return to the natives. The Americans operate with jewelry - with several thousand agents they keep hundreds of millions of quite reasonable and strong, but deceived Russians under control - no cowboy in America can cope with a similar number of cattle.
    Chew the hay of propaganda and drag on your American interests ...
    - in Mali, Russians contribute to the destruction of the Tuaregs and Berbers (related white peoples, formerly part of the Russian World) in favor of blacks
    - in Chechnya, the Russians contain the people who slaughtered the Russian diaspora
    - in Syria, Russian tanks and guns, not to mention machine guns, shoot at the legitimate government
    - a group of landing ships in the last call delayed a militia division on the coast, and only after the squadron left they could be transferred to Homs, where they drove out the mercenaries
    - The Far East is open to all comers, and the troops are pulled to the South in the interests of Israel ...
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets 30 March 2013 19: 25
      +2
      Right Only Andropov, a Jew, not an American.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 30 March 2013 19: 44
      +3
      Quote: Volkhov
      Andropov - American Glen Miller

      Please explain ...
      What kind of kitchen is Glen Miller here? I know one Glenn Miller. Musician (famous), jazzman, orchestra leader of his own name.



      Or are you talking about some other?
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 30 March 2013 20: 42
        +2
        Yes he. "Andropov" was nostalgic about how Stirlitz and after his death Glen Miller's records were found in his apartment. The replacement was carried out in the 40s.
        1. sleepy
          sleepy 30 March 2013 20: 47
          +4
          “The fact that Andropov was an agent of the CIA or MOSSAD was already talked about among operatives in 1983.
          His entire policy from the beginning of the 70s basically corresponded to the strategy of operational work of the CIA in our country.
          For this, of course, he needs to erect a monument, but not in the Lubyanka, but in Langley or in Tel Aviv ...
          ... Andropov is credited with the Uzbek "cotton" business. Myth. It's just that one mafia punished competitors -
          southern mafia. That’s the whole fight (on TV, performed by Gdlyan and Ivanov).
          At the same time, they caused a feeling of resentment among the southern Kazakhs and Uzbeks, which was necessary for this whole gang ... "
          http://atnews.org/news/pochemu_ja_schital_andropova_shpionom/2012-05-06-2559
        2. Atlon
          Atlon 31 March 2013 16: 04
          0
          Quote: Volkhov
          Yes he. "Andropov" was nostalgic about how Stirlitz and after his death Glen Miller's records were found in his apartment. The replacement was carried out in the 40s.

          Strange logic ... I love Glen Miller too, so I'm an American spy? The film "Serenade of the Sun Valley", in which Glen Miller personally starred, and his famous orchestra (based on the film "Merry Troubadours") was Hitler's favorite film. This film and I love it, it is in my collection. Do you also trace parallels here ?! belay

  21. nickel
    nickel 30 March 2013 17: 13
    0
    Smiled in the article assertion that Suslov before his death successfully passed a medical examination and even with a "bicycle". Since I remember this time very well, I can say that Suslov at the end of his life was the same miserable sight as Brezhnev. Apparently at that time he had already developed senile parkinsonism. So the news of his death did not surprise anyone.
    And yes, I was surprised by the lack of a story with Mosherov, beloved people of Belarus and who died in a car accident.
  22. Horde
    Horde 30 March 2013 17: 59
    +2
    Does history repeat itself in faces of casualty?
  23. pinecone
    pinecone 30 March 2013 18: 04
    0
    A marked creature of Andropov, who drove Russian patriots to the camps, and sent his fellow "dissidents" and other human rights activists to the United States and Israel.
    1. bask
      bask 30 March 2013 23: 32
      0
      Quote: pinecone
      opov, who drove Russian patriots to the camps, and his fellow "dissidents"

      Andropov-Lieberman was a Jew.
  24. Black
    Black 30 March 2013 19: 05
    +6
    March 30, the first president of the USSR, head of the International Public Fund for Socio-Economic and Political Studies (AS HOW !!!!) Mikhail Gorbachev gave an open lecture at RIA NEWS,

    - recognized his career as successful. (IT WOULD BE !!! !!! Rarely anyone succeeds in spoiling so much their own homeland. The Gordievsky division is resting)

    - noted that all historical changes, including the restructuring, which he considers his the most striking achievement, "did not come by themselves," but were done by the hands of people. (recognizes and is proud !!!)

    - called on the society to unite for the "functioning of democracy" (Here I agree with him. I would like to hold a referendum on the question "Is Mikhail Gorbachev worthy of a bullet or without bothering - shall we hang?")
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets 30 March 2013 19: 27
      +3
      When already, this dog stinker will die ?? After all, long deserved ....
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 30 March 2013 19: 52
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      We would hold a referendum on the question "Is Mikhail Gorbachev worthy of a bullet or, without bothering, will we hang?"

      The criminal case against M. S. Gorbachev was instituted as far back as 1991, and as far as I know, it has not been closed ...

      Here: http://nnm.ru/blogs/armorder/ugolovnoe_delo_protiv_gorbacheva_vozbudil_v_1991_go
      du_viktor_ilyuhin /
      1. Black
        Black 30 March 2013 21: 25
        +2
        Quote: Atlon
        The criminal case against M. S. Gorbachev was instituted as far back as 1991, and as far as I know, it has not been closed ...

        Art. 64 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (treason to the Motherland) is a serious article .... and there is no statute of limitations.
        Let's hope the time comes.
  25. Stalinets
    Stalinets 30 March 2013 19: 22
    0
    I recommend for reading Oreya Volot's book "The Ratmen". There it is intelligible about deaths and with names ...
  26. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 30 March 2013 19: 55
    +4
    Gorbachev is a traitor who sold his homeland. He needs to hang with Yeltsin on neighboring birches!
    1. not good
      not good 31 March 2013 23: 18
      0
      Then it’s easier to bury nearby until he himself is dead and the aspen count is both.
  27. Egoza
    Egoza 30 March 2013 20: 12
    +1
    Quote: Atlon
    The criminal case against M. S. Gorbachev was instituted as far back as 1991, and as far as I know, it has not been closed ...

    That's why he sits here in America and does not show his nose!
  28. sleepy
    sleepy 30 March 2013 20: 31
    +2
    Cases of bygone days.

    "A Jewish specialist (and, concurrently, a poisoner) Colonel Mairanovsky was appointed to the post of the head of the" chemical laboratory of the OGPU "specially established by GG Yagoda (preparation of deadly poisons and long-acting toxic compounds), who at the criminal trial in his case (1954 year) directly showed: "What court sentences,
    They pointed me with a finger who should be removed, and I seized, that is, poisoned with the means developed by the laboratory. ”
    Gesselberg was appointed the head of the OGPU photo lab, and Berenzon was appointed chief accountant of the department.
    After the “transfer of affairs” G.G. Berry - N.I. Yezhov, the last was arrested Chekist-Colonel Schwartzman
    from the investigative unit of the NKVD. "
    http://mrk-kprf-spb.narod.ru/bespal.htm#2.2
  29. sleepy
    sleepy 30 March 2013 20: 42
    +2
    http://www.ic-xc-nika.ru/texts/2008/jun/n220.html

    "Numerous suicides, death sentences, arrests and other conflicts that befell
    high-ranking party and state apparatchiks swept the Brezhnev elite with a heavy press ...
    Political departments were restored in the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
    And then the tragedies began. Head of Sector of the Department of Administrative Bodies A.I. Ivanov
    shot himself in the early 1980s. Some doubt that they did this voluntarily.
    Three deputy chiefs of the GUUR of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR were fired, a group of the best detectives of the country -
    senior inspectors for critical matters - liquidated;
    their boss A.S. Muravyov and the head of one of the departments of GUUR V.N. Nechaev shot himself.
    The total number of suicides in the Ministry of Internal Affairs during this time was 160 people.

    ... From the stated point of view, we can understand that the whole restructuring is nothing but
    as an interdepartmental war along the lines of the KGB of the USSR with its potential opponents. "
    http://www.ic-xc-nika.ru/texts/2008/jun/n220.html
  30. Patriot2012
    Patriot2012 30 March 2013 21: 25
    +3
    "Now we have reached such a stage that we have interrupted perestroika. Politics is increasingly turning into imitation. We need a new system of governing the country," Gorbachev said on Saturday in Moscow, speaking at an "open lecture."

    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/news.asp?id=298555
    This brute lives in America, who should we? He must be judged as a traitor, and he is handed out awards and loses before him, a shame. He took bribes when he ruled the country "Gorbachev, under the pressure of facts, confessed to the Chairman of the KGB Kryuchkov that at a secret meeting with President Ro Dae Woo, he received a bribe of $ 200.000, in bearer checks, for recognizing South Korea"
    And he has the audacity to tell what a pompous ruler he was, to spit in his face
  31. radar75
    radar75 30 March 2013 23: 04
    -1
    The system ate itself.
  32. optimist
    optimist 31 March 2013 00: 06
    +1
    A question for the putinoids: if VVP is a "patriot", then why are the humpbacked, Chubais and many, many others still walking free? And they not only walk, but also continue their "glorious work". Looking at everything that happens around, a strong impression is created that the children from the CIA are instructing with the "guarantor" every day ...
    1. Skuto
      Skuto 31 March 2013 00: 58
      0
      It's simple: there is such a thing as image. Good image = good reputation = good investment climate. Let’s begin to plant everyone in a row (for the cause or not, the guys over the hill deeply **) everything in Russia again is totalitarianism and it’s already obvious. and begin as with Sakharov)))

      The second moment. here you planted Gorbachev marked treason. With this, you very, very strongly smear a huge number of people and a layer of history with an odorous brown substance. simple workers, engineers, miners - who in 1985 looked with hope and believed the "traitor". in fact, we will get the second 20th congress of the CPSU with another condemnation. and this is a blow to the cultural and historical heritage and just prestige.
      1. optimist
        optimist 31 March 2013 09: 58
        +3
        What are you talking about! Following your logic, is the Criminal Code just a book with a lot of "bukoffs"? Here a simple collective farmer who stole a bag of wheat is packed for a couple of years. Punishment has not only a retribution, but also an educational effect. That is why VVP and K are driving the country further into ..opu, because they know that nothing will happen to them for it. And about the "image" again garbage: in the 30s of the last century, when thousands of "Gorbachevs" were put up against the walls, Western countries lined up to help on "great construction sites." And they didn't give a damn about all this: money doesn't smell !!!
  33. optimist
    optimist 31 March 2013 00: 24
    -1
    Putinoids minus ... It would be better to answer the question!
  34. optimist
    optimist 31 March 2013 00: 37
    0
    I see ... There are no brains at all .... So they believe the GDP! laughing But this is understandable: in Russia there has never been a shortage of fools.
  35. krisostomus
    krisostomus 31 March 2013 02: 55
    -1
    You might think that no one knew that there was a usual squabble for power in the "top", as it always went right from the first years of Soviet power. In ancient times it was easier to solve - they could shoot from around the corner, like Lenin or Kirov, or “officially” shoot in the back of the head in court, like the “Leninist Guard” with generals were shot. Well, under Brezhnev they went "the other way" - they were dying of a "heart attack" - so to speak - the "brand" was bloated.
    But why did the Secretary General need to betray something? They strove for power, but for the Secretary General it was simply absolute - any monarch could only envy like the presidents of any country. Well, to hell with them checks even for 200 thousand dollars? Yes, he only had to poke a finger into any catalog and they would bring him any thing.
    Well, as far as Gorbachev is concerned, he could very calmly "pro-genist" to the grave, and certainly no worse than others who were before him. He could have jailed someone, or even shoot them - and everything would have sniffed further into a rag. In the evenings, we would watch TV with the Vremya program about unprecedented labor achievements, and go to regional centers on Saturdays for sausage. Thirty more years would have lasted, but then there would have been a complete "paragraph" and the collapse of the camp would have been more "large-scale". Well, the fact that the entire communist system was bursting at all seams even before Gorbachev - only the blind and deaf could not understand. Well, maybe they lived like in North Korea or Cuba.
    1. Skuto
      Skuto 31 March 2013 03: 49
      -1
      Well, the main idea is generally correct, "only power is stronger than money," and whoever has achieved power will no longer exchange it))))

      If you think so, did Romulus (the last Roman emperor) or Odoacer destroy the Roman Empire? or Diocletian with Constantine?

      Gorbachev was rather trying to reanimate through a series of reforms of the USSR, to move away from the power of the CPSU to the original idea - All power to the Soviets. But alas, since the time of Khrushchev, Soviet and party bodies have grown so much that without a strong party the entire power vertical did not exist.

      Well, about the economy, you can argue for a long time)))
  36. Brummbar
    Brummbar 31 March 2013 14: 52
    0
    Are you trying to justify Gorby? He is a wimp and a coward supposedly afraid to shed blood, and how much of it then poured out because of his cowardice is not counted. In general, if a person has entrusted a country to a person, even cruel decisions can be made if necessary. Why, after the referendum on the integrity of the Union, he did not arrest the conspirators who signed the agreement on the collapse of the USSR? Because he fulfilled the main task set by Uncle Sam - the destruction of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact. Andropov was a normal man under him and the German Democratic Republic would not be lost and the Union would be whole .
  37. valokordin
    valokordin 31 March 2013 17: 30
    +1
    I lived under Stalin, Judas Khrushchev, Generalisimus Brezhnev, etc., until Gorbachev. We all believed them as the best and incorruptible people. There was no knowledge of spider disputes, and now I do not want to believe this article.
    1. krisostomus
      krisostomus April 1 2013 10: 24
      +1
      How could they not? They even knew a lot - almost immediately after the death of Stalin, Khrushchev and Malenkov quickly "snatched" the main competitor Beria. The same fate later befell Malenkov, Molotov, Kaganovich, when they tried to "cheat" Khrushchev. Then the "group of comrades" ate Khrushchev. And all this happened before our eyes - some "incorruptible" ate others "incorruptible".
  38. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer April 1 2013 02: 14
    +2
    The KGB has always been a burden on party power, since the time of the GPU Berry. Only Stalinist purges eased this craving. I have no doubt that the KGB and the CIA had illegal links, which we will not know about. If we take the story more broadly, then we all know about the illegal contacts of the Abwehr and the British, American intelligence during the war. We know about this only because Germany lost the war and some of the archives were opened.
    And where the KGB looked during the collapse of the USSR, it becomes clear by looking at the biographies of the ruling elite of modern Russia.
  39. serge
    serge April 1 2013 09: 41
    +2
    About Romanov in Soviet times, there was still an anecdote made by the KGB, something like "a white émigré comes to Leningrad, looks, Fontanka is like Fontanka, Moika is like Moika, asks a passer-by: And who is in charge of you - Yes Romanov. Why then? I was leaving? " Rumors about dishes from the Winter Palace at the wedding of Romanov's daughter were actively spreading among the people, I myself heard. Moreover, this was the only rumor of this type about a major party leader, and seemed strange even at that time.
    Yuri Andropov was Fleckenstein on his mother, and Lieberman on his father. His stepfather was the Greek Andropulo. Andropov is a revised surname of Andropulo. In general, the swindler is already starting with the last name. He pretended to be a supporter of tough measures in the party line, but he himself, with the help of political assassinations, made his way to the top and dragged his heir Gorbachev. Andropov sympathized with Jews and surrounded himself with Jewish friends and advisers. Andropov did not allow Solzhenitsin to be imprisoned, having sent him to the USA; he was friends with E. Yevtushenko and Y. Lyubimov. Andropov patronized "the foreman of perestroika" Fyodor Burlatsky, tendentious historian Roy Medvedev,
    Israeli lobbyist A. Bovin, freemason G. Arbatov, A. Volsky. In short, it is clear what happened when a Jew came to the leadership of the secret service. Liberals never criticized Andropov and always considered him their own, in the media in the post-Soviet period he was always presented as an intellectual and a supporter of progressive tendencies. This is despite the fact that he declared a tough party line, although this was expressed only in anecdotal checks in the daytime in cinemas. Nobody renamed Andropov Avenue, although whoever did not deserve to be immortalized was Andropov. Andropov, as a true liberal, put on sale cheap vodka, which instantly received the popular nickname "Andropovka". Andropov's anti-Russian sentiments, for all his secrecy and caution, were not a secret, especially in the capital circles, which were much more informed than the rest of the country. Jews began to show unheard-of activity in the USSR, which the KGB resisted only for show. Under Andropov, the Jews almost completely captured the mass media
    information that later predetermined the onset of "perestroika". Andropov's contribution to the future collapse of the USSR is difficult to overestimate, he is this collapse
    and prepared.
  40. i-gor63
    i-gor63 April 1 2013 18: 06
    0
    And the vile, vile little man with a mark came to power and did his dirty deed
  41. washi
    washi April 2 2013 13: 11
    0
    Under Andropov (not a real surname), the so-called dissidents. And Gorbachev, the chairman of the party’s regional committee, had a clicker Misha-Purse. About the bribe that he was given openly in Korea, I think everyone knows