Jose Manuel Barroso is afraid of Putin, but not afraid of Medvedev

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Last Friday, two-day talks between Russia and the European Commission ended in Moscow. The final stage of the meeting was the conversation of Dmitry Medvedev and Jose Manuel Barroso. Many analysts were waiting for a certain “Cyprus” decision from the EU and Russia, which could have been reached during the negotiations, but there was no solution. Barroso merely remarked that the European Commission (at the time of the negotiations) had not received from the Cypriot authorities proposals for overcoming the crisis and preventing a possible "default."

At a press conference following talks between Medvedev and Barroso, a Wall Street Journal journalist asked: “Why Russia could not or did not want to provide assistance to Cyprus? Does this mean that Russia threw depositors in the banks of Cyprus? "- The Russian Prime Minister replied:" We did not close the door, we did not say that we would not discuss anything, we didn’t want to hear anything, because this is an EU member state, and leave me alone us. We have quite understandable economic interests. But we will be ready to discuss various options for supporting this state, especially since we have already provided support, given credit, after the final scheme has been worked out with the participation of the EU states and Cyprus itself. Only in this case Russia will be able to connect to this process on quite understandable legal and economic approaches. ”

Now, as you know, the Eurogroup has reached a compromise on the restructuring plan for Cypriot banks without Russian participation. According to preliminary information“Laiki Bank” will be liquidated, and cash deposits in it for an amount of less than one hundred thousand euros will be transferred to the Bank of Cyprus. The remaining deposits and assets of “Likes” will be lost almost completely. The Bank of Cyprus will be graciously preserved by the EU with the help of recapitalization, which will be partially financed by international assistance, and partly by large contributors. By the way, owners of deposits in excess of 100 thousand euros in this bank will lose up to 40% of their funds. But a one-time tax on deposits in the financial structures of Cyprus will not be introduced - that's a joy, especially for those who lose 40% or all.

The development of the Cyprus topic at the talks in Moscow was awaited because rumors circulated in the media that, say, the situation in Nicosia would embroil Russia and the EU. Moscow unhappy that the EU did not warn her about the decision on the tax on Cypriot deposits, and Brussels is not satisfied with the criticism of Russia, which led to the cancellation of this decision. Well, how can it be: after all, the Kremlin did not warn that the European Commission would almost “expropriate” “overlay” deposits in Cypriot banks. The President of the European Commission, Mr. Barroso, had to admit earlier that Russia was not aware of such a harsh decision of the European Commission. As he noted, “there was no pre-made decision”.

Upon arrival in Moscow, the main expropriator immediately declared that Russia was not afraid of Europe and would even cooperate with it. Still: without gas in winter Europe is bad. Especially in new climatic conditions, when there is more snow and cold than ever. After talking with Comrade Medvedev, Mr. Barroso said:

"We are not only not afraid of Russia, we want to develop constructive partnership."


The head of the European Commission even acknowledged that Russia is a civilized country, not some savage and barbaric one:

"Russia is an important part of European civilization, we are proud of this part."


At home, he must call this “part” nothing more than a “gas appendage.”

Surrounded by thirty (according to other sources, only fifteen) European commissioners (without revolvers and Mauser), Barroso really felt like a brave man. And in order to be even less afraid, the chief European commissioner met with Medvedev twice, and with Putin only once. Correctly journalist “Financial Times” Neil Buckley считаетthat Medvedev has no “steel taste of threat”: “Even when he speaks harshly about the EU, Medvedev does not have that steel taste of threat that is inherent in Putin’s style. Perhaps that is why he lost the battle for the presidency, which, according to at least one Russian analyst, was real. ”

Gas really turned out to be a significant part of the negotiations. The parties signed three documents: a) a roadmap for energy cooperation (up to 2050 of the year); b) a memorandum of understanding between the Rospotrebnadzor and the relevant EU structure; c) a statement of cooperation in the field of civil protection. A well-known question of the abolition of the visa regime of development during the two-day meeting did not receive.

Feeling behind them the breasts of commissars loyal to the EU bureaucracy, J. M. Barroso with a chill said: “There are many questions on which Russian interests do not correspond to our priorities or, at least, how we define our common interests.” Mr. Barroso saw the discrepancy in different approaches “to the role of civil society”, as well as in the attitude of the EU and Russia to “fundamental freedoms and rights”. Then he did not lie: he could not see the six-color homoradian flags over ministerial buildings in Russia, not like, for example, in the free spirit and body of Britain. The question of the attitude to the Syrian conflict also seems to Barroso "mixed". However, her boss does not advise Russia to stop negotiations with the European Commission: you can stop it, but you can only negotiate with each country separately - it will cost you more. “The 27 bureaucracies of the member states are even more complex, even more difficult to deal with than the one and only bureaucracy in Brussels,” he said with confidence in his voice.

On the last day of the Moscow meeting, Friday, Cyprus was again mentioned - just in passing. Mr Barroso said the decision would be communicated to Russia: the Cyprus accounts of its state-owned companies, Jose Manuel, refused to recognize the top priority. It could even be understood this way, writes Kommersant observer Peter Netreba that these accounts will be responsible for the island crisis. Here, Barroso sarcastically emphasized that, they say, “Cyprus found itself in a difficult situation primarily because of the size and structure of its banking system compared to the size of the country”, probably hinting that Russian billions (according to Western media, there are 19) are almost equal to the annual GDP of Cyprus (about 24 billion dollars). Well, Cypriots failed to digest Russian money, what to take from them.

It remains only for Medvedev to say that “in the opinion of the Russian Federation, a mutually acceptable solution should be found by the European Union, on the one hand, and Cyprus as a state party to the European Union.” Only after, according to him, “when the final scheme will be worked out with the participation of the EU states and Cyprus itself, only in this case Russia will be able to join this process according to quite understandable legal and economic approaches”.

Here it should be noted that on the eve of meeting with Comrade Putin, Barroso a lot of things flattering сказал about the relations between the EU and Russia: “We need to build a common civilization, where we share common values. Because when I am in Moscow, I have the full feeling that I am in a European city. I think you feel the same way in Europe. I think that it is this European trend that is the driver that can serve for the development of our future relations. I think that based on this shared vision, we can create free space from Lisbon to Vladivostok, where free movement of both goods and people will be ensured. ” However, he further remarked: "If earlier our partnership was a partnership of necessity, now we turn to the partnership of preferences."

And this topic of “preferences”, as we see, was developed by him at the subsequent meeting with Medvedev. The EU prefers a completely different approach to Syria. The EU wants Russia to treat “rights and freedoms” differently. The EU is eager for Russian money in Cyprus (the accounts of something huge, not at all a hundred thousand) to go away, go to a “restructuring”. The EU smugly considers itself a powerful bureaucracy, with which Russia will have to deal, whether it wants to or not. Feels Barroso and the opposite (energy) dependence, but, apparently, not before Medvedev.

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    1. Nevsky
      +3
      26 March 2013 08: 44
      Why should a liberal be afraid of a liberal? request
      1. +8
        26 March 2013 10: 23
        Liberast liberast strife ... not everyone wants to be "mom" ... everyone wants to be "dads" ...
        1. vyatom
          +1
          26 March 2013 13: 51
          Well, all n ... c. Soon it means gasoline is on the rise, or new taxes will appear, or housing and communal services will skyrocket. We must also support our orphan oligarchs who lose money in Cyprus.
          1. djon3volta
            +1
            26 March 2013 16: 04
            Quote: vyatom
            We must also support our orphan oligarchs who lose money in Cyprus.

            and if I open an account in Cyprus and put 100 euros there, will I automatically become an aligarh? And by the way, why do Cypriots go on strike and protest, don’t you know by chance? per day. that I don’t see striking aligarchs, but what did you see? I see striking ordinary Cypriot residents from whom the government wants to take away (part of) the accumulated.
            and here you are. (and many unenlightened ones), they probably don’t know that gasoline, housing and communal services and so on crap are getting more expensive in many countries, and not just in Russia, because there is such a thing called inflation! For example, in England inflation amounted to 2.8% last year. Oh yes, gas in the USA sometimes gets cheaper, they steal oil in other countries, that's why it gets cheaper from them. By the way, almost 40% of Russia's oil is consumed domestically, and this% will only grow, with an increase production, in general half of the oil we ourselves consume, and only sell half. Well, you don’t know it, now know it! hi Yes, I remembered, I listened to the news yesterday on the radio, in our country, the housing and utilities sector from next month will go down in price from 3% to 14% in various categories, city water, ONE, electricity, etc., and this is a hundred pounds after Putin’s recent instruction, where he said that housing and communal services should not exceed inflation tongue so you can go topple Putin further laughing
            1. +3
              26 March 2013 17: 11
              I’ll add about the Cypriots that everyone understands that such a decision closes offshore and destroys the banking system, and that now they have to work, and besides tourism there is nothing to be done there, and thanks to European cooperation, they won’t. Plus, after such a pogrom, they are not able to repay the same debts of the EU, tobish running in a circle down. So the Cypriots go out into the street.
            2. itkul
              +2
              26 March 2013 18: 43
              Quote: djon3volta
              in our country in Tatarstan, the housing and utilities sector from next month will go down from 3% to 14% in various categories, hot water, water utilities, electricity, etc., and this is a hundred pounds after Putin’s recent instruction, where he said that housing and communal services should not exceed inflation tongue so you can go topple Putin further


              Why didn’t your news reach the Murmansk region

              quote from article

              Residents of Umba offer to build barracks with stove heating due to excessive payments for communal services.


              http://bloger51.com/2013/03/41860#comment-267198
              1. +2
                26 March 2013 23: 48
                the population of Russia will be saved only by mini-nuclear power plants in houses. Such humorous humor.
            3. +2
              26 March 2013 23: 44
              in Tatarstan, in my opinion, the entire Organizational Party that was not killed in the 90s quickly moved to the housing and communal services. This is the impression when the bills arrive.
              1. ABV
                +1
                27 March 2013 00: 28
                uh, brother, do not star, in our suburbs (zamkad) the same subjects on housing and communal services ...!
          2. MAG
            +1
            26 March 2013 17: 34
            Aifonya said "they are robbing the loot" so they will steal the loot again, but they will already know that the West can also expropriate in its own interests
          3. +3
            26 March 2013 23: 41
            Yes, I was raped by a gay Europe, according to Vladivostok itself. And she is also called an old woman. I think too early.
        2. Good Ukraine
          +1
          26 March 2013 16: 00
          good
          ShturmKGB
          Liberast liberast strife ... not everyone wants to be "mom" ... everyone wants to be "dads" ...


          Once the liberalist "mother" asks the liberalist "father" -
          - tell me please. Taboo and I are both liberals and love each other. So how do we differ from each other?
          - Yes, we are both liberals. So, when we love each other - I am in a better position relative to you - answered the liberal "dad"
      2. 0
        26 March 2013 13: 30
        Because a liberal to a liberal in the struggle for a rival democracy. And how competitors are biting .... in the recent history of examples there is no measure.
      3. NKVD
        +6
        26 March 2013 13: 49
        .... The EU wants, the EU wants, but the shit on the shovel of the EU does not want ??? am
        1. ABV
          +1
          27 March 2013 00: 32
          am and their North American brothers ..
      4. +2
        26 March 2013 17: 14
        And who is afraid of a bear at all? Something I do not recall a single such case ... smile
        1. ABV
          +1
          27 March 2013 00: 34
          and no one is afraid of him ... everyone plays a game over him under the name - "rzhunimagu" ...
    2. +13
      26 March 2013 08: 46
      All the same, she is a stranger to us, this Western Geyropa. We are different both in our spirit and in our perception of the world. Barroso probably feels like a brave midget, who managed to accidentally kick Guliver when he was sleeping. Whoever says anything, this whole story with the Cypriot contributions of the Russian nouveau riche will only benefit Russia. More money will remain in the national banking system. After all, the appetite comes with eating. It turned out once in Cyprus at the expense of Russian money to solve the problem, (all the same, after all, stolen) and another time somewhere in Italy or Portugal you can try again. And let our financial delawars scratch their turnips, which is better, to develop their own economy or give away money to support the Eurozone, solving other people's problems free of charge.
      1. yorik_gagarin
        +4
        26 March 2013 09: 31
        It’s not that it’s nouveau riche money. If today your little brother’s money was taken and no answers were received then tomorrow you will be taken from you.
      2. Natalia
        +5
        26 March 2013 09: 36
        Quote: Victor
        All the same, she is a stranger to us, this Western Geyropa. We are different both in our spirit and in our perception of the world.

        A stranger to the wrong word, here they (Borozu, European Commissioners) come ..... they smile, smile, and the case turns up so they put a knife in the back with a smile.
        They can’t be trusted .... and above all, they are not friends to us, but simply partners when necessary. So far, we just need each other because of bindings to energy sources, but at the same time, if everything grows together with China, it will be possible to expropriate them (Geyropu).
        1. nakaz
          0
          26 March 2013 13: 30
          And what is Europe's duty? Smile and wave.
      3. +3
        26 March 2013 11: 32
        I somehow have no illusions .. This is definitely an "attack" on Russia. GDP announced that officials should return all their money to Russian banks .. And all of Europe "fed" with this money .. So they decided, the Europeans with the US, "fuck" - they just brazenly took it. And the fact that "the Russian oligarchs keep their money in offshores is bad" .. Yes, the top of the European one also has its own offshores, only they "do not touch" ... If the population of Europe knew where and how they keep their money, and in what number, their "leaders" .., then there the revolution would begin !! )))) In short, they took "our grandmothers" .. Well, from this we will fuck ...
        1. vyatom
          +1
          26 March 2013 13: 53
          May occupy this Cyprus. Moreover, our Ezhskadra is there nearby. Pick up all the grandmothers as the Americans usually do and tries this European Union. freeze p.
          1. 0
            26 March 2013 15: 04
            Quote: vyatom
            May occupy this Cyprus. Moreover, our Ezhskadra is there nearby. Pick up all the grandmothers as the Americans usually do and tries this European Union. freeze p.

            Yes, I was also pondering ... especially after this their statement-answer why Russia was not included in the course, about the intentions of the European Union for Cyprus, and the answer was "WE WERE SLEEPY ... when making a decision." I was an accidental witness .. We came to a peasant to ask for a debt .. and he let his snot go and said this .. "Yes, to be honest, men .. then when it was, after all, I was drunk .. well, I DON'T REMEMBER really everything." What was one of those who came to him so calmly and peacefully "" Sleepy "was ??? Don't you remember? -So it's great! -Let's we fuck you och_ko right now! You won't remember afterwards anyway !!" we need ... these ... sleepy ones ..))))))
          2. ABV
            +1
            27 March 2013 00: 43
            and in the squadron - 1 corvette, 1 transport, 1 TUKSIR, 1 UDK nuu or a couple ... than we will conquer Cyprus? why do all the trips of our ships involve a long-distance sea tug ?? whom to tow - pirates?
            but
            with all of this --- they will definitely win, even the sailors from the tugboat will take part, because there is nothing to kill the FIGHTING SPIRIT of our soldier!
        2. ABV
          +1
          27 March 2013 00: 38
          but is it not a joint action? ... they showed eccentrics from the type of oligarchs - they won’t throw money in the homeland there, as in the 90s ... but in geyrops they can ... and it doesn’t matter that there is a game and a substitution of concepts, it’s important that the loot holders understand the promise!
      4. to water
        +5
        26 March 2013 12: 51
        This is a very good lesson for anyone who thinks that the European Union is a fairy tale. "Democratic" principles in action. Let the Ukrainian oligarchs, who are pulling their people into this yoke, think. Nobody will open their markets for them. After the fulfillment of all the ultimatum conditions of the European Union, they will suck their lollipops earned in troubled times, the end will be the same for all - like Berezovsky.
        1. Natalia
          +1
          26 March 2013 13: 10
          Quote: regar
          This is a very good lesson for anyone who thinks that the European Union is a fairy tale. "Democratic" principles in action.

          Yes
      5. +2
        26 March 2013 13: 25
        The problem is not that they deprived someone of money, but that it turned out. Now everyone will succeed. Specifically, this Cyprus now needs to set up such an economic bathhouse so that the remaining abnorms themselves collapse, and the economy is bent. For nefig.
        1. Natalia
          0
          26 March 2013 14: 27
          Quote: Geisenberg
          The problem is not that they deprived someone of money, but that it turned out. Now everyone will succeed. Specifically, this Cyprus now needs to set up such an economic bathhouse so that the remaining abnorms themselves collapse, and the economy is bent. For nefig.

          I agree .... it is necessary to create a situation in which they lose more than they gain from a deal with the EU. And maybe it comes to them that betraying our interests is ultimately no longer profitable than the EU.
        2. to water
          +2
          26 March 2013 14: 31
          This is a good precedent for our moneybags and merchants. It's time to think that there are no safe places in the world to keep your money. The only safe place should be at home. And for this you need to tighten up your legislation and create your own banking system of settlements with foreign partners, and not use American or European and pay them a commission for this.
      6. +1
        26 March 2013 22: 49
        The matter is muddy.
        1. Medvedev is going to fight for the money of the aligarchs — if so, you can congratulate the aligarchs on the prime minister.
        2. Medvedev is going to fight for money. DAM-affirmed in an interview that there is money, state corporations, but did not say how much ???????????? exactly! You can understand that state-owned corporations make settlements through the Bank of Cyprus, but at the moment, mutual settlements can be made from anywhere in the world, WHAT the hell are they there ?? - you can congratulate us on the prime minister, glad for Russia.!
        3..Medvedev goes to fight for money. --- Acquired by overwork, you can congratulate the premier-loanula
        The murky business does not say how much - Money Aligarchs
        - Money of state corporations
        - Money acquired by overwork
        D E L O N E H I S T O E
    3. +15
      26 March 2013 08: 52
      But it’s time to change the premiere!
      1. +2
        26 March 2013 12: 55
        It is high time - not fish, not meat. From him more harm than good. Probably, a combination for this operation has not been invented yet ... There must be some queen in Putin’s nest. But something tells me that the current prime minister himself will be dismissed, i.e. he will serve it. And from him there are already a lot of chips flying, but the finished product is still not there. Wait and see.
      2. +4
        26 March 2013 13: 14
        Well, Medvedev is not on his own. By himself, he can only admire iPhones; behind him is a group of people with interests. As well as the hammock, the barroso does not express itself. and the decision of a group of influential people from geyropa. Accordingly, it is necessary to change, first of all, not the bear, I am the pathetic traitors of the Motherland standing behind him.
        1. +2
          26 March 2013 13: 34
          When I see him, I often remember how Sukhorukov described Kirkorov in the film BROTHER ... Romanians in a word.
      3. 0
        26 March 2013 13: 31
        Do you offer castling?
        1. +1
          26 March 2013 13: 48
          Quote: Bosk
          Do you offer castling?


          What kind of castling in FIG - a backslash and a point. The weak link in the current government should be replaced by a stronger one. And Medvedev himself should already understand that he is not drawn to a second person in the country, and the sooner he realizes this, the less painful and without depression he will leave this post.
      4. Vrungel78
        +1
        26 March 2013 16: 49
        will change soon (I have nothing against Putin)
      5. 0
        26 March 2013 17: 54
        Quote: omsbon
        But it’s time to change the premiere!

        You are not 37 years old
      6. Georgs
        0
        27 March 2013 14: 00
        Quote: omsbon
        But it’s time to change the premiere!

        Hello to you through the window! "Prora to change". It was impossible to let him close to the premiership. Here a strong economic man is needed, with a kulak vein, so that he will bring everything into the house and for order. And this is "teteretic" what? No, maybe he, as a lawyer and teacher, is quite high quality. But the economy of such a country, and even with such troubles, is never good. That's how you want it.
      7. sibircat
        0
        27 March 2013 22: 40
        On this score, there are agreements with the incumbent president, which is why they seemed to be at the same time in the last election.
    4. dimarm74
      +3
      26 March 2013 08: 56
      Personally, I am in favor of taking all the money from them both in America and in Europe and on all sorts of islands. All the same, they will not return them to Russia and there is no sense in this money for Russia. And all this proves once again that all these "liberal" or "market" or "democratic" values, whatever you like, all this is complete nonsense. And then there are people who, after that, foaming at the mouth, will be in favor of "democracy" and "liberalism", etc ... tear their ass out ...
      1. +4
        26 March 2013 09: 19
        Yes, not everything is so simple with this Cyprus. There is not much money for thieves and corrupt officials, but normal entrepreneurs who conduct foreign trade activities will suffer for nothing. Many transactions for the acquisition of assets abroad went through Cypriot banks, and these are not only villas on the Cote d'Azur, but a production structure. The same goes for state-owned companies. Without an account with a European bank, it is difficult to carry out any transactions for the acquisition of assets abroad. Of course the bandits and the oligarchs are not sorry, they do not impoverish. "Keep your money in a savings bank!"
        1. +5
          26 March 2013 11: 42
          Quote: ovgorskiy
          The same goes for state-owned companies. Without an account with a European bank, it is difficult to carry out any transactions for the acquisition of assets abroad. Of course the bandits and the oligarchs are not sorry, they do not impoverish. "Keep your money in a savings bank!"


          very many Russian groups opened accounts with the Russian Commercial Bank - the Cypriot “daughter” of VTB (the third largest asset in Cyprus, 14 billion euros. ”), and his law does not apply. The essence of the law is as follows: it is necessary to sacrifice the customers of the two largest and most affected by the cancellation of Greek debt of banks - Bank of Cyprus and Cyprus Popular Bank (Laiki),
          Cypriots intend to divide the problem banks into “good” and “bad”. The Bank of Cyprus will become “good”: it will be restructured and cut in size. About 100% will be debited from deposits and client accounts of more than 000 euros, the funds will be used to recapitalize the bank. Customers who paid the fee will be able to count on the shares of the new bank. Laiki will be bankrupt, its “good” assets will be transferred to the Bank of Cyprus. Deposits and accounts less than 100 euros will save, also transferring them to the Bank of Cyprus
          It is known that Russian citizens are shareholders of these financial institutions. For example, Dmitry Rybolovlev, the former owner of Uralkali, is a co-owner of Bank of Cyprus (owns 5% through the Odella Resources Ltd fund). In Russia, the bank operates under the Uniastrum Bank brand, which the Cypriot bank bought in 2008. Laiki Bank is 84% ​​owned by the state. At the end of September 2012, the bank's losses amounted to 1,8 billion euros. The value of all assets was estimated at 30,4 billion euros, of which more than half - 17,9 billion - were deposits.
          Losses of Laiki customers will depend on how much they can gain from the “bad” assets. According to FT, approximately Laiki’s $ 4,2 billion may be transferred to a “bad” bank - that is, these funds are likely to be lost to investors.
          There are concerns that having over € 100 in Laiki accounts will receive nothing
          So, large investors of this bank will suffer major losses. And who exactly is this ... Sacrificed Laiki was very popular among Russian customers, largely due to the ease of opening an account in it - this could be done remotely directly from Moscow
          Top managers of the state bank and state corporation heard that substantial funds were stuck in Cyprus with Gazprom and Rostec. A person close to Rostec confirmed this, but did not name the amount. A Gazprom spokesman said the company has no accounts in Cyprus. One of the few companies that openly assessed losses in Cyprus is VTB: a maximum of several million euros.
          According to Moody's, Cyprus holds $ 31 billion of Russian origin.
          Upon completion of negotiations the situation of precisely the Russian customers of Cypriot banks worsened, Bank of America Merrill Lynch said yesterday, downgrading the shares of the non-oil segment and the oil sector. As First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said yesterday, the government does not yet have an accurate register of losses that Russian investors may suffer. These capitals should be divided into two parts, he believes:
          “The first is money that has been withdrawn from the Russian economy, for which taxes have not been paid. We believe that this part of the funds is completely insignificant. Most of the Russian funds in Cyprus are completely legal. ”


          And this means that the Cypriot financial blow was aimed (conceived) primarily at the Russian monopolies and legal business, and not at rogue corrupt officials and fraudsters. Latvia, as we see, does not experience the main laundry in laundering dirty money.
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            26 March 2013 12: 14
            Quote: Ascetic
            And this means that the Cypriot financial blow was aimed (conceived) primarily at the Russian monopolies and legal business, and not at rogue corrupt officials and fraudsters.

            But what then is it?
            ** very many Russian groups opened accounts with the Russian Commercial Bank - the Cypriot “daughter” of VTB (the third largest asset in Cyprus, 14 billion euros. ”), and its law does not apply **
            Much more effective would be a blow to a Russian commercial bank !!
            Not this way??
        2. nakaz
          +4
          26 March 2013 13: 32
          All money must be in Russia. Why is the poor population putting all their money into circulation inside Russia, and the rich fat men let excess fat go abroad?
          A person has enough modest housing, food, water and a bit of entertainment. The cult of consumption must be destroyed.
          1. vyatom
            +1
            26 March 2013 13: 58
            Quote: nakaz
            All money must be in Russia. Why does the poor population put all their money into circulation inside Russia, and the rich fat people let excess fat go abroad? A person has enough modest housing, food, water and a bit of entertainment. The cult of consumption must be destroyed.

            Oh my friend. Yes, if our fat men listened to your words. We would have built schools and kindergartens. And they bastards are buying all the villas and buying football clubs over the hill.
    5. work566
      +5
      26 March 2013 08: 59
      Medvedev is a cardboard figure. But, having seized upon real power, it can do a lot of trouble.
    6. +2
      26 March 2013 09: 02
      This Barbos (Barroso) does not solve anything, like a yard dog, can bark, can fall in love, or just go up to the moon (for human rights). That's why he is a watchdog.
    7. +6
      26 March 2013 09: 08
      we are waiting for Putin's response to the EU depository. I hope it will be "asymmetric" as always
      1. 0
        26 March 2013 10: 26
        Quote: Ragnarek
        we are waiting for Putin's response to the EU depository. I hope it will be "asymmetric" as always


        Putin has already given the command to withdraw Russian money from the accounts of Western banks.
      2. vyatom
        0
        26 March 2013 14: 00
        Quote: Ragnarek
        we are waiting for Putin's response to the EU depository. I hope it will be "asymmetric" as always

        Yes I would like to. And then somehow more than we have a simple population suffers from these answers.
    8. +7
      26 March 2013 09: 09
      "Russia is an important part of European civilization, we are proud of this part."

      But we are not very recently proud of another part of Europe.
    9. +9
      26 March 2013 09: 23
      Jose Manuel Barroso is afraid of Putin, but not afraid of Medvedev
      Show him Valuev.
      1. 0
        26 March 2013 14: 59
        Quote: andrejwz
        Show him Valuev.

        Pity the poor fellow. good
    10. +2
      26 March 2013 09: 26
      The face of this Burroughs reminds me of a petty crook from the cartoon Carlson and the Baby.
    11. +2
      26 March 2013 09: 27
      Good morning, forum users! After reading the article, I draw conclusions. Only the west can flatter. But really cooperate, well, nothing ...
      Here it should be noted that the day before, meeting with Comrade Putin, Barroso said a lot of flattering things about relations between the EU and Russia: “We need to build a common civilization, where we share common values. Because when I am in Moscow, I have a complete feeling that I am in a European city.

      And then tell me if in the near future there will be such an equal in spirit, charisma, business qualities, etc. person like vv Putin? They’re not afraid of the others, but yes. =))
      And in order to be even less afraid, the European Commissioner met twice with Medvedev, and only once with Putin


      To delay the terms of partnership and constructive work, we all know how.
    12. +3
      26 March 2013 09: 37
      "Russia is an important part of European civilization, we are proud of this part."
      But we are often ashamed of Europ.
      Everything is more shameful and discerning.
    13. Natalia
      +5
      26 March 2013 09: 45
      All the same, Medvedev is a wimp, no cheat on Putin. Like Libya, he lost so much more to do. Now, if Putin is today, then we will not surrender Syria to the enemies. Putin in general, the whole world, if not afraid, then reckons with him.
      The difference is felt: Putin - scout Medved - lawyer
      1. 0
        26 March 2013 09: 53
        Quote: Natalia

        All the same, Medvedev is a wimp, no cheat on Putin. Like Libya, he lost so much more to do. Now, if Putin is today, then we will not surrender Syria to enemies

        hi Natalie, do you really think that Putin didn’t take part in making decisions on Libya?
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          26 March 2013 10: 02
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          hi Natalie, do you really think that Putin didn’t take part in making decisions on Libya?


          and if Medvedev is really a weak person, then his opinion was hardly taken into account during the discussion!
          1. 0
            26 March 2013 10: 23
            Quote: Yarbay
            and if Medvedev is really a weak person, then his opinion was hardly taken into account during the discussion!

            Alibek, well, do not mind, logically, to the point!
        2. Natalia
          +1
          26 March 2013 10: 20
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          hi Natalie, do you really think that Putin didn’t take part in making decisions on Libya?

          Hi Sasha!) Yes, FIG doesn’t know him, but I think he played at least some negative role.
          1. wax
            +3
            26 March 2013 12: 53
            The President and the Prime Minister have throats, and they cannot discuss everything. Discussion requires an initiative of either one or the other. Then, of course, neither one nor the other will refuse. It is obvious to me that Medvedev did not go to Putin in Libya, otherwise there would be no such vote that would open the way for intervention. The Foreign Ministry, too, could not go out from under Medvedev. The decision on Libya is a major foreign policy failure for Medvedev personally, which was taken into account, along with other inadequacies of DAM, in deciding on the presidency. I predict the removal of DAM from the post of Prime Minister no later than 2014.
            1. vyatom
              +1
              26 March 2013 14: 02
              Quote: Wax
              I predict the removal of DAM and from the post of Prime Minister no later than 2014

              Yes, now it is already necessary to delete. And then it will break firewood until 2014, this iPhone lumberjack.
          2. ABV
            0
            27 March 2013 01: 04
            it's nice to sometimes hear a sensible woman ...
        3. wax
          +3
          26 March 2013 12: 42
          I really think: Putin’s reaction testified to this immediately after the decision of the UN Security Council. Such a statement went beyond the bounds of decency (the Premier is not the President, foreign policy is not included in his sphere, and the post does not allow speaking out of topic, another could have been removed from the post for such as, for example, Kudrin). But DAM noticed when he reproached Putin for this statement.
      2. Yarbay
        +3
        26 March 2013 10: 00
        Quote: Natalia
        The difference is felt: Putin - scout Medved - lawyer

        I assure you that this is a non-indicator !!
        The late Ilyukhin was a lawyer, and illegal spies a couple of years ago were handed over by their immediate boss!
        1. Natalia
          +6
          26 March 2013 10: 24
          Quote: Yarbay
          The late Ilyukhin was a lawyer, and illegal spies a couple of years ago were handed over by their immediate boss!

          I welcome you dear Alibek!)))
          Medvedev is a consistent figure, it is clear what he wants, and it is clear that he may not like it and how it will act.
          Putin is a completely different matter, it cannot be counted, it is not expressed in numbers .... that’s why they are afraid of (enemies) .... and not the least role is played by the fact that he is a scout.)
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            26 March 2013 10: 37
            Quote: Natalia
            I welcome you dear Alibek!)))
            Medvedev is a consistent figure, it is clear what he wants, and it is clear that he may not like it and how it will act.
            Putin is a completely different matter, it cannot be counted, it is not expressed in numbers .... that’s why they are afraid of (enemies) .... and not the least role is played by the fact that he is a scout.)

            Hello dear!
            As for Putin, he is a strong man and I am impressed by many of his personal qualities, but I think that he, having the opportunity to do great things for a great country, chose an easy way for himself!
            what small countries can afford (corruption, theft, lawlessness, oligarchy, nepotism) a great country cannot afford if it wants to be !!
            As for Medvedev, Putin proposed his president and prime minister !!
            does it mean that if he is weak Medvedev, then Putin could not have known about this and that means that he condemned the country to the management of an incompetent person ??
            But what about the people, why did they choose mediocrity ??
            I think all these conversations about the fact that there are disagreements between them are the course of political technologists !!
            1. Natalia
              +3
              26 March 2013 10: 51
              Quote: Yarbay
              But what about the people, why did they choose mediocrity ??
              I think all these conversations about the fact that there are disagreements between them are the course of political technologists !!

              I think Putin just threw a test balloon, putting Medvedev as president, as well as prime minister .... Medvedev will either have to draw conclusions and catch up or sunk into oblivion.
              Well, of course, there isn’t any disagreement between them that Putin says he does. It’s just that Medved is striving to create the image of an independent politician.
              I would say that .... before, he (Medved) even somehow impressed me, I even voted for him then. Now ..... he somehow slowed down, he is no longer as elegant (handsome) as he was in the 2008 election.
              As for Putin, yes .... he should have to tighten the nuts more, for the order.
              1. 0
                26 March 2013 14: 33
                Quote: Natalia
                I think Putin just threw a test balloon, putting Medvedev as president, as well as prime minister .... Medvedev will either have to draw conclusions and catch up or sunk into oblivion.

                I apologize for interfering in the conversation ....
                I think we should not idealize the GDP. "Trial Balloon" is simply "weak" politically, spiritually and charismatically. And since in Russia they still vote mostly not with their heads but with their hearts, why would the GDP put a strong figure in the foreground?
                So, this is corny extension of one’s own power. Well, the appearance of liberalism for the suffering west.
                1. Natalia
                  +3
                  26 March 2013 15: 54
                  Quote: Chen
                  Why was GDP highlighting a strong figure?
                  So, this is corny extension of one’s own power. Well, the appearance of liberalism for the suffering west.

                  .....maybe you're right.....
                  .... I am generally opposed to the GDP playing in democracy, even if Lukashenka becomes a leader as long as he is healthy, let him be elected constantly, otherwise we lose time, money and nerves from these games in "Western-style democracy".
      3. +1
        26 March 2013 10: 28
        Quote: Natalia
        The difference is felt: Putin - scout Medved - lawyer


        Medvedev is not just a lawyer, he is an all-wheel drive liberalist.
        1. Natalia
          +2
          26 March 2013 10: 34
          Quote: Victor
          he is an all-wheel drive liberalist.

          here .... I also think so, but as you know, any liberalism is harmful to Russia. Liberalism is an ARVI for the people.
          Is it possible that the white painters disagree with me .....
    14. mnemonics
      0
      26 March 2013 09: 58
      Little scared bitch
    15. +1
      26 March 2013 11: 11
      I hope that their adventure will not pass so simply for Europe.
    16. +1
      26 March 2013 11: 51
      Europeans punished themselves. Rich people are greedy, and for 30% they can close accounts.
      1. djon3volta
        +1
        26 March 2013 13: 17
        Quote: Dmitry 2246
        Europeans punished themselves

        I already hinted about it before. Europe looks like the dog that bit its tail and spins in place wassat
        1. Natalia
          +3
          26 March 2013 15: 08
          but I think something familiar ....
          Well now it’s clear where it came from ...... I mean your nickname.
          John three volts
          John Travolta .......... a good actor.
          I know that you will say that I'm the captain of evidence, but still smart .... lol
          .... original
          1. djon3volta
            0
            26 March 2013 15: 58
            Quote: Natalia
            Well now it’s clear where it came from ...... I mean your nickname.

            guessed right but not quite tongue djon3volta, it was (maybe now) DJ Djon3volta here I took this nickname from him, but it was 6-7 years ago.
            A travolta actor is not bad, interesting even. For example, a good movie BROKEN ARROW ..
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              26 March 2013 16: 31
              Quote: djon3volta
              nice movie BROKEN ARROW ..

              For me, this is his worst movie))))))))))
              sorry you did not watch his other films)))
              maybe they would make changes in their nickname))))
              1. +1
                26 March 2013 16: 38
                Quote: Yarbay

                For me, this is his worst movie)))

                If you want to understand a person, find out what films he watches and what books he reads!
                The film really sucks negative
                1. +4
                  26 March 2013 16: 59
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  If you want to understand a person, find out what films he watches and what books he reads!

                  Well, what kind of films can a Three-Volt watch while sitting in a matrix? wassat
                2. djon3volta
                  0
                  26 March 2013 17: 09
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  The film really sucks

                  and what sucks? Personally, I like films where there is something about nuclear weapons. And it doesn’t matter who shot it. They don’t argue about tastes, or is it a lie?
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Want to understand a person, find out what movies he is watching

                  and what kind of movies do you watch? If you don’t tell, then it’s encrypted, and if you’re encrypted, then you’re afraid of something, and if you’re afraid of something, it means that you create and hide something bad.
                  I actually watch a lot of things, and I watch old Soviet films.
                  1. Yarbay
                    0
                    26 March 2013 17: 18
                    Quote: djon3volta
                    and what sucks? personally I like films where about nuclear weapons there is something

                    And how old are you the young Putin ???))
                  2. +3
                    26 March 2013 18: 43
                    Quote: djon3volta

                    and what movies do you watch? if you don’t tell me, then you’re encrypted,

                    Yes, normal Russian films, more like old ones.
              2. djon3volta
                0
                26 March 2013 17: 10
                Quote: Yarbay
                sorry you did not watch his other films)))

                watched watched and other movies watched, with and without John.
                1. +1
                  26 March 2013 18: 44
                  Quote: djon3volta

                  watched watched and other movies watched, with and without John.

                  With van dam wink
        2. +4
          26 March 2013 17: 01
          Quote: djon3volta
          Europe looks like the dog that bit its tail and spins in place

          Rather, it’s like a cat who sat on its eggs and get up to laziness laughing
    17. +3
      26 March 2013 11: 56
      There was such a proverb, the cowboys think: "If your pistol is a millimeter further than you can reach, consider that you don't have it." This is something the same with money in banks. The money in the bank is not your money. It's bank money! For various reasons, you can lose them in an instant! At the whim of the bank, government, fraudsters ... Yes, even by mistake or due to a failure in the electronic system! Indeed, your money is only the one that the physicist has in your hands. Therefore, I don't trust banks, cards ..
    18. +1
      26 March 2013 13: 17
      Something that hurts a frisky * luck. Roll his neck and ask for another to be sent, more polite. Although where do the geek savages get politeness
    19. +2
      26 March 2013 13: 26
      Another kick ... whenever you have to, you will have to answer, if your posture is gone. But GDP is happy :) 100pounds. A very valuable lesson was taught to all clever people who kept money in Cyprus - you should go against your homeland, you should be closer to your own.
      1. -1
        26 March 2013 14: 36
        Yes, he most likely has a couple of lyamas there too
    20. Terkin
      0
      26 March 2013 14: 20
      And why are they afraid of Medvedev? Gave him a new iPhone and do what you want with him. First Prime Damn.
    21. +1
      26 March 2013 16: 04
      Bank of Cyprus will be graciously saved eesovtsami using recapitalization

      I re-read the phrase three times, I couldn’t taste everything, what do I have to do with it SS men
    22. 0
      26 March 2013 17: 15
      It is necessary to cherish and cherish their main allies - the army and navy. And then he didn’t jerk.
    23. Yankuz
      0
      26 March 2013 17: 43
      Ha! This European is part of Russian civilization. Confused ...
    24. 0
      26 March 2013 18: 10
      Jose Manuel Barroso is afraid of Putin, but not afraid of Medvedev. And who is afraid of Medvedev?
    25. 0
      26 March 2013 18: 12
      Jose Manuel Barroso is afraid of Putin, but not afraid of Medvedev. And who is afraid of Medvedev? And what are they afraid of? He’s plush. For four years I spit on the TV when it was shown.
    26. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      26 March 2013 18: 41
      What can I say, the EU is a very "reliable" partner.
    27. +1
      26 March 2013 21: 51
      Barroso is not afraid of Medvedev because he’s a fool ... and why fools can be easily afraid of them ... so he met twice ... maybe he’ll give a ride ...
      1. Georgs
        0
        27 March 2013 14: 06
        Quote: I think so
        Barroso is not afraid of Medvedev because he’s a fool ... and why fools can be easily afraid of them ... so he met twice ... maybe he’ll give a ride ...

        Barroso, in the first place, a distinct bastard. Portuguese pirate. Under his command, if anyone remembers, the Serbs were bombed, by the way. Persian. (I freeze in deep sorry).
    28. 0
      26 March 2013 21: 57
      Mongrels, one must speak with them from a position of strength. They relaxed completely in Europe.
    29. ABV
      0
      27 March 2013 01: 12
      unfortunately, we are not talking about any acquisitions in economic terms. It’s just the Germans ... uh Germany, like us (Russia) are tired of living under the blatantly Saxon yoke .... and they go on some kind of carpet games in which it is unclear which and whose German piece of the establishment is trying to = = lift the country, roofing felts alienate yourself a little. and since Germany is a steam locomotive (locomotive) of the Geyropa, you simply don’t get away from its body movements ... you have to poke ... uh ... waving .. denyuzhki, if you do not screw it, and the Germans pour mainly into the European Union ...

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