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"Iron dome" became gold

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"Iron dome" became gold

The effectiveness of the Israeli air defense system "Iron Dome" is almost zero, writes the American newspaper "New York Times"

Despite statements by the Israeli authorities that the effectiveness of the “Iron Dome” system during the last rocket attacks on Israeli territories by Palestinians in November 2012 reached 90 percent, studies by American and Israeli weapons experts say that the Israelis were not able to shoot down more than 40 percent of Palestinian rockets, and, quite likely, even less, the newspaper notes.

According to experts, a large number of Palestinian rockets were only damaged or shot down from the original trajectory, and were not destroyed, as stated by the Israeli side.

Experts say that "this absolutely did not prevent Palestinian rockets, which received minor damage, to explode in Israeli territories."

The Iron Dome is designed to protect against unguided Grad cruise missiles. The system was developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with the direct financial support of the American authorities. Earlier, the Pentagon allocated to Israel about 280 millions of dollars to develop and deploy this air defense system. Following the Israeli side, the American Congress also described the effectiveness of the “Iron Dome” as “very high”. Congressmen are considering the possibility of providing Israel with an additional amount of 680 million dollars.
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  1. nekromonger
    nekromonger 25 March 2013 13: 08
    +2
    previously read about the effectiveness of this system, the opposite is true. what will the Israeli comrades say?
    1. Konsmo
      Konsmo 25 March 2013 13: 14
      12
      What would you say if you want to allocate 680 million. hi
      Although I am not a Jew, I would hit with my heel on my chest, proving that there is nothing cooler.
      1. nakaz
        nakaz 25 March 2013 13: 48
        +3
        Serious rockets, of course, will still give kumpol to the Jewish people, but fortunately, the Iron Dome can cope with Hezbollah's fart.
      2. Suhov
        Suhov 25 March 2013 16: 14
        +2
        Quote: Konsmo
        What would you say if you want to allocate 680 million.

        For some, the "Iron Dome", but for someone golden rain! laughing
        Well done guys, they managed to make a "philosopher's stone". wassat
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 25 March 2013 16: 28
          +1
          Quote: Sukhov
          Well done guys, they managed to make a "philosopher's stone".

          Nah, the philosopher's stone is a dollar! I printed (or on a clave I accumulated) a couple of hundred parts, and here you are - an ounce of gold smile
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 25 March 2013 17: 12
            +1
            Quote: Arkan
            Nah, the philosopher's stone is a dollar!

            Who would argue ...
            yes
          2. sergius60
            sergius60 25 March 2013 21: 01
            +2
            A "draconian ban" has now been imposed on the printing of evergreens. Departure to "paradise" on other people's humps did not take place. There is no one to pay for the "banquet". The "drain" of the great and mighty "empire of good" began.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 25 March 2013 13: 19
      +1
      Not an Israeli comrade, but in this system the chip that it calculates the trajectory of missiles and those that fall in sparsely populated areas does not bring down. Maybe this is the answer to less than 40% of the goals that were shot down?
      1. Konsmo
        Konsmo 25 March 2013 13: 28
        +7
        USU, USU we heard this from our Jewish comrades. And also from Aesop 2 thousand years ago. "The fox said the grapes are green, unable to jump to it."
        The Jew also says, "The missiles were flying in the wrong direction"
        Go check tongue
      2. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 25 March 2013 13: 30
        0
        Quote: zvereok
        Maybe this is the answer to less than 40% of the goals that were shot down?

        You need to know how many missiles were launched, how many targets were detected, how many were fired, how many were shot down.
        Then we can conclude about the effectiveness.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 25 March 2013 14: 39
        +1
        Even if nothing, let’s say the Palestinians made a rocket with biological rubbish or from Fukushima brought an infected piece of metal and launched it. Well, seriously, if the warhead missile does not have a HE, but what kind of virus?
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 25 March 2013 15: 20
          +2
          !!! chur you .... do not wake famously.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 March 2013 14: 46
      +2
      Here is the shelling scheme




      Total for 2012 year 794 shelling 2.078 missiles, 83 mortar shells of them 520 missiles shot down missile defense system. Killed 5 and injured 107 people.
      1. Commodus
        Commodus 25 March 2013 14: 51
        +2
        if there is any virus. then they will most likely die out at the stage of preparing the rocket for launch. Such a thing, special parts should be prepared. And long and tedious, providing security at all levels. Moreover, given the difficulties that the country that provided the hezbollah with bacteria or viruses will get ... very unlikely. And at least fire at a piece of iron from Fukushima. It is dangerous only if it is imperceptibly put somewhere in a kindergarten or a nightclub. This is much worse. But
  2. Trailer
    Trailer 25 March 2013 13: 12
    +4
    No, the system is good. only to suppress it, dozens of rockets should be launched from one position.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 25 March 2013 14: 11
      +4
      the system is good. only to suppress it, dozens of rockets need to be launched from one position

      I watched on TV - beautiful rockets take off wink And what is interesting to the people, and industry in business fellow . The main thing is that everyone should see that rockets fly in heaps beautifully, all the sky in the tracks wassat . So the army is not sleeping! Vigil, so to speak yes .
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 25 March 2013 17: 01
        +3
        Quote: Botanologist
        I watched on TV - beautiful rockets take off. And what is interesting to the people, and industry in business

        And what would all the colors of the rainbow! wassat
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 25 March 2013 22: 26
          +2
          all the colors of the rainbow

          Do you want to draw gay flags in the sky of Israel? lol
  3. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 25 March 2013 13: 13
    +2
    Jews, unlike our government, do not care about the lives of their citizens, and they are ready to spend any money to save them.
    1. Konsmo
      Konsmo 25 March 2013 13: 31
      +4
      Clarification. Any American money. drinks
    2. yanus
      yanus 25 March 2013 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      Jews, unlike our government, do not care about the lives of their citizens, and they are ready to spend any money to save them.

      Jews, unlike our government, are sawing the money of another state, so they do not care. In life they do not care all the more.

      They recall their lives either in political debate, especially before the election, or as an excuse to promote a military project more expensive.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 March 2013 14: 59
      +4
      Search the internet for what prompted the Israeli government to install the Iron Dome. And you will find - when a rocket falls, the government is forced to pay money to the city hall and money to the victims, this is if the house is destroyed and no one was physically injured, if there are injured and dead, then millions of shekels.

      They say so bluntly - the shelling is very costly for us and we have begun the development of the "Iron Dome".



      Quote from the wiki: “Each launch of an Iron Dome missile costs $ 30 to $ 40, which is many times the cost of any possible intercepted missile. Thus, even with 100% effectiveness, intercepting a weapon of attack will cost much more than the cost But the economic efficiency of the system lies in the fact that earlier, when a missile hit a residential area, the state paid at least one million shekels (about $ 250) compensation to the city and its residents.

      According to an interview with Yediot Ahronot, Colonel of the Israeli army "C" (name banned for publication), head of the "Iron Dome" project, during the Second Lebanon War, about 4000 missiles were fired at Israel, 1000 of which hit settlements. Using the Iron Dome would have cost $ 50-100 million, but during the war alone, direct damage was $ 1,5 billion. The same can be seen in the example of Operation Cast Lead. Thus, in a prolonged conflict, the cost of missiles is only 3-7% of the cost of possible damage. "
  4. BARKAS
    BARKAS 25 March 2013 13: 17
    +2
    Hail cruise missiles is what? And what is shown on TV is more like a sighting shot of a system, and if a volley of a division what happens what
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 25 March 2013 13: 49
      +2
      It is clearly written: "uncontrollable". Primitive missiles with a range of up to 30 km, German V-1 (projectile aircraft), against them the height of perfection.
      1. Genur
        Genur 25 March 2013 14: 44
        +1
        This is a type of our SPR - radio fuse blasting stations. Self-detonating shells and missiles on the trajectory before approaching the target.
  5. homosum20
    homosum20 25 March 2013 13: 17
    +2
    Let them stand out more. The Jews will not be lost. Matzo will buy.
  6. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 25 March 2013 13: 17
    0
    I saw Palestinian rockets on the Internet, they seem to be homemade, and their size does not impress at all, so Israel’s air defense, it seems to me, is all exactly what to shoot from sparrows from a cannon.
  7. elmi
    elmi 25 March 2013 13: 21
    +2
    Of course, amers will criticize the "iron dome" and they criticized ours with 300, they also need to push the Patriots somewhere
  8. Vanek
    Vanek 25 March 2013 13: 33
    +1
    The Iron Dome is designed to protect against Grad type unguided cruise missiles.

    How many guides does BM-21 have? And if the "Grad" (s) will be a dozen? The title of the article is correct.
  9. Apollo
    Apollo 25 March 2013 13: 41
    +2
    read the name the first thing the thought came to go and pull apart to pieces but when I read the info, I changed my mind laughing
  10. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 25 March 2013 13: 55
    0
    It’s necessary to calm people down, and they’re scratching what the Israelis want to hear. Tel Aviv cannot sign its own helplessness.
  11. UzRus
    UzRus 25 March 2013 13: 57
    +1
    Well I do not know. There was information last year how many missiles flew, how many did not fly, how many flew, and how many of them were shot down. Efficiency was quite high.
  12. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 25 March 2013 13: 58
    0
    Well, let them go bankrupt, anyway, there is no better and no Russian weapon. It’s a pity to the Palestinians - with stones, slingshots and improvised rockets against the Israeli military machine, there’s this dome too, well, of course they’re cool, but give them slingshots and stones and see how long Israel lives.
  13. atalef
    atalef 25 March 2013 14: 04
    +1
    Studies by American and Israeli weapons experts suggest that with this air defense system the Israelis managed to shoot down no more than 40 percent of Palestinian missiles, and, quite possibly, even less, the newspaper notes.

    Oh well . they wouldn’t tell us. we lived under these missiles and saw how they were shot down. By the way, the names of Israeli experts would lead, for confirmation.
  14. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 25 March 2013 14: 06
    0
    It is necessary to write a collective letter to the Prosecutor's Office so that they rent Serdyukov to Israel. So that their dome becomes diamond !!! smile
  15. Castor oil
    Castor oil 25 March 2013 14: 33
    +1
    Maybe they are not lying (about inefficiency) - I remember the Iraqis fired at the Israelis with the antediluvian Scuds, so the vaunted Patriots "delicately let through" half of them ...
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 25 March 2013 14: 45
      +3
      Not certainly in that way. The Patriots got into something, but they could not effectively get off course - the Scuds flew on.
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 25 March 2013 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Castor_ka
      the vaunted Patriots "delicately let through" half of them ...

      "delicately" how is it? For money? Or motivated in some other way?
      wassat
  16. atalef
    atalef 25 March 2013 15: 08
    -8
    Quote: UzRus
    Not certainly in that way. The Patriots got caught, but they could not effectively get off course - the Scuds flew on

    Well, in general, the Patriots were used against the Saddam Skads in the 1991 year, almost an eternity from the point of view of generations of weapons. The skuds were knocked down by the Patriots with self-blasting and the fragments were strewed just by hail. The skads were knocked down but continued to fall in energy and caused damage by falling (without undermining the warhead). The Scud fragment is still on my shelf on the r-te. (some kind of Kronshtein 0 In general, only one person died from Skadov milestones. And even then from a heart attack. Here is such statistics.
    Wash from the fragments of the Patriots was more of a problem than from the Scuds themselves.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 25 March 2013 16: 00
      +3
      Major Jew cannot be. Or vice versa... what
      1. atalef
        atalef 25 March 2013 16: 25
        -3
        Quote: Tatarus
        Major Jew cannot be. Or vice versa..

        Of course, the Baltic Tatar laughing
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 25 March 2013 19: 08
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Baltic Tatar


          laughing Imagine, I have never been to the Baltic states. Or was ... Peter is the Baltic?
    2. hrych
      hrych 25 March 2013 20: 00
      +4
      There is a video when two Patriots, falling into the scad, could not be destroyed and the warhead reached its target with an explosion, at the end of the recording. Given the backwardness of the Scud - a complete failure.

  17. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 25 March 2013 15: 23
    +1
    Literate guys. Why pay the population when you can put money in your pocket)) ... democracy in action.
  18. Arkan
    Arkan 25 March 2013 16: 00
    0
    Is it really so difficult to make the Grad missile slightly maneuverable? Arabs still shoot "in that direction" and do not impose any accuracy requirements on missiles ... smile
    1. hrych
      hrych 25 March 2013 18: 15
      +6
      Theirs homemade from channel pipes and so chatters because of poor quality and fly, anyhow, that a smart dome can not be understood.
  19. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 25 March 2013 18: 20
    +7
    Some dispose of old water pipes, others saw someone else's loot, knocking them all in business and to hell with the world? what wassat
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 25 March 2013 20: 07
      +3
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Everything in business and to hell with them peace?

      Nobody thinks about the world there. laughing
  20. Takashi
    Takashi 27 March 2013 15: 39
    0
    But tell me the device of missiles that are launched from the Gaza Strip.
    Kassam -?