Now divisional-corps structure: Ukrainian commander-in-chief Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Now divisional-corps structure: Ukrainian commander-in-chief Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksandr Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine, abandoning the brigade system and switching to a divisional-corps structure. According to Syrsky, the Ukrainian command has already begun reforming the organizational structure of the country's armed forces.

Ukrainian military often explain their failures at the front by the lack of poor organization of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and advocate the rejection of the brigade system of manning the army. At present, the Ukrainian Armed Forces officially fight in brigades - tactical military units numbering 3-7 thousand people, which in turn consist of regiments, battalions, companies and platoons.



The brigades are united into operational-tactical groups (OTG), and they are united into operational-strategic groupings of forces (OSGV), formed in 2022. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have two OSGVs - "Khortitsa", whose area of ​​responsibility includes a significant part of the front line from the north of the Kharkiv region to the southern part of the DPR, and "Tavria", which is participating in battles in the southern directions.

These structures are managed by operational commands (North, South, West and East), the creation of which began in 2015. Each of them is engaged in providing, training and staffing the brigades deployed in the corresponding regions.

As part of Syrsky's reform of the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of general and colonel positions will be increased at the expense of the headquarters of the army corps of the Ukrainian army, which, among other things, will allow the Ukrainian command to concentrate the main financial flows among the "right" people. At the same time, the reform of the combat command system is primarily intended, but the distribution of logistic support.
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  1. +4
    3 February 2025 17: 16
    I don't understand anything, but if there are more generals in the VSU, then I'm all for it, that means less valuable stuff will reach the front. laughing
    1. 0
      3 February 2025 17: 23
      will allow the Ukrainian command to concentrate the main financial flows among the “right” people.

      So they are counting on the fact that there will be something to distribute from the finances. Nothing changes.
    2. +5
      3 February 2025 17: 24
      Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksandr Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine, abandoning the brigade system and switching to a divisional-corps structure.

      Any reform, especially during times of chaos, leads to an increase in this chaos, so let the "brilliant" clown Napoleon continue to make a mess... Syrsky to help him... am
      1. +4
        3 February 2025 17: 33
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        leads to the growth of this mess

        fire in brothel during flood
        1. GGV
          +2
          3 February 2025 18: 19
          And I remembered another joke about a brothel as soon as I read the title of the article: where the beds were moved, but the profits did not increase.
        2. The comment was deleted.
      2. +2
        3 February 2025 17: 41
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        Any reform, especially during times of chaos, leads to an increase in this chaos, so let the "brilliant" clown Napoleon continue to cause chaos... Syrsky to help him...
        A brilliant idea - to change a horse's horseshoes in midstream...
        1. GGV
          +2
          3 February 2025 18: 47
          I hope that nothing good will come of the xoxls. Although there were such cases in history and they worked out. For example: the structural subdivision of tank troops before the Great Patriotic War in the USSR were divisions, which were united into mechanized corps. Then, during the war, they were reformed in 1941 into brigades. In 1942, tank and mechanized corps were formed again, again from brigades. And then by 1943 tank armies had already been formed from these same corps, which were introduced into breakthroughs and made a very large contribution to the victory in the Great Patriotic War. True, in the USSR this was due to a significant increase in the experience of military leaders and an increase in the number of BT. A striking example of this is the Marshal of Armored Troops M.E. Katukov and his 1st Guards Tank Army.
          1. +1
            3 February 2025 18: 56
            Quote: GGV
            True, in the USSR this was associated with a significant increase in the experience of military leaders and an increase in the number of BT.
            You, Georgy, yourself explained the conditions under which reforms during the war are possible.

            And than -
            Quote: GGV
            For example: the structural subdivision of tank troops before the Great Patriotic War in the USSR were divisions, which were united into mechanized corps. Then, during the war, they were reformed in 1941 into brigades. In 1942, tank and mechanized corps were again formed, again from brigades. And then by 1943 tank armies were already formed from these same corps.
            Breaking up is always easier to do. Which is what happened in 1941.
            But to enlarge it, especially in conditions of a shortage of personnel and equipment - this is a rather difficult task in war conditions... We were able to do it in 1943, but where did Ukraine get all this?
          2. 0
            3 February 2025 20: 03
            Before the Great Patriotic War in the USSR there were divisions that were united into mechanized corps. Then, during the war, they were reformed in 1941 into brigades. In 1942, tank and mechanized corps were formed again, again from brigades.
            Well, yes, that was the case. Only in the beginning of WWII divisions and mechanized corps were without communications (they were controlled by flag semaphore, like in a sailing fleet), and in 1942 all tanks had radios. Controllability appeared.
      3. +1
        3 February 2025 22: 46
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        Any reform, especially during times of chaos, leads to an increase in this chaos.

        Well, is the Russian army really "completely without sin"? Does no one really remember the recent history of how they decided to create 3 armies based on corps? The "creation" was "on paper" (there were corps, and they remained), but they began to set "army" tasks! And how did this "come back to haunt"!?
    3. +1
      3 February 2025 18: 34
      I don't understand anything, but if there will be more generals in the VSU, then I'm all for it, it means less valuable things will reach the front laughing


      They want to do it like we do.
  2. +2
    3 February 2025 17: 17
    As part of Syrsky's reform of the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of general and colonel positions will be increased at the expense of the headquarters of the army corps of the Ukrainian army,

    Great move.
    Now the TCC will be catching generals on the streets for vacant positions, not cooks.
    1. +1
      3 February 2025 17: 18
      But what an advertising slogan! Come to the Shopping Center, become a general!!!
      1. -2
        3 February 2025 17: 24
        A bad soldier is one who does not want to become a general. I have heard this somewhere before.
        1. +1
          3 February 2025 19: 37
          Quote from Mitos
          A bad soldier is one who does not want to become a general. I have heard this somewhere before.

          And there was also:
          - I will definitely be a general, I will definitely become a general if I survive the corporal...! laughing
  3. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 17
    Now divisional-corps structure: Ukrainian commander-in-chief Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine


    hi The business started by all the fathers, starting with Khmelnitsky, Makhno, will continue with the embezzlement of money and other delights for the gang of the liquid drug-fuehrer.
    1. +3
      3 February 2025 17: 26
      Quote: ZovSailor
      The case started by all the fathers, starting with...

      this is their original goal, what can you expect from robbers, who they were in their battle
      1. 0
        3 February 2025 17: 34
        Vasilenko Vladimir
        Today, 17: 26
        this is their original goal, what can you expect from robbers, who they were in their battle

        hi Yes, I agree, now NATO won’t have any enemies, because they were taught their gay European traditions and martial arts, but they are changing their orientation.
        Has the head of the SVR Naryshkin already stated, if it is not fake, that NATO commanders should not prepare compromising evidence against the drug narcofuhrer for stealing money intended for weapons? request
  4. +5
    3 February 2025 17: 21
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces fight in brigades - tactical military units numbering 3-7 thousand people, which in turn consist of regiments, battalions, companies and platoons.

    But does NATO really have regiments in a brigade? A brigade consists of battalions. Regiments are only in divisions. So Syrsky wants to return to the battalion-regiment-division structure.
    1. +1
      3 February 2025 17: 38
      This is the Russian system of organizing troops: squad, platoon, company, battalion, regiment, division, corps, army, front, if I am not mistaken, with which we won,
      1. +1
        3 February 2025 20: 41
        This is the Russian system of organizing troops.

        Well, don't go overboard. This is a pan-European system, which was successfully adopted by Russia in its time. And which, by the way, modern Russia abandoned during Serdyukov's reforms.
        1. 0
          3 February 2025 20: 59
          I didn't even know that it was taken from the pan-European system. They didn't tell me about it in the army training. And they told me that it was most suitable for Russia. But Europe abandoned it in favor of the brigade system, and we copied it.
          1. +2
            3 February 2025 21: 18
            But Europe abandoned it in favor of the brigade system.

            The US/Europe had quite understandable reasons for this, related to the nature of the military operations conducted by their armed forces. The NWO turned out to be a completely different conflict, more similar to the "classical war" of national armies. Perhaps this is why there is a "rollback" in the theoretical views of the enemy leadership on the construction of its armed forces.
            and we aped her

            Yes, alas... "They aped" - this is a very apt and most appropriate definition of those reforms
      2. -1
        3 February 2025 20: 54
        Before the revolution there were brigades within divisions. And also in the Red Army during the civil war.
    2. +1
      3 February 2025 17: 43
      Quote: Eugen 62
      So Syrsky wants to return to the battalion-regiment-division structure.
      Rearranging beds in a brothel.
    3. +2
      3 February 2025 17: 53
      Quote: Eugen 62
      But does NATO really have regiments in a brigade? A brigade consists of battalions. Regiments are only in divisions. So Syrsky wants to return to the battalion-regiment-division structure.

      In the USA, a division consists of 3 brigades, a corps of 3 divisions, respectively, 9 brigades are a corps, 2-3 corps are a field army.
  5. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 23
    all this is wonderful))) syrniki just forgot to say - where will he get personnel for these divisions?
    1. 0
      3 February 2025 17: 29
      They wrote this in the morning in kindergartens
      Ukrainian expert suggests preparing kindergarten pupils for service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      https://topwar.ru/258665-ukrainskij-jekspert-predlozhil-gotovit-k-sluzhbe-v-vsu-vospitannikov-detskih-sadov.html
  6. +2
    3 February 2025 17: 25
    I look at the photo and can't understand why the commander needs a "bra", helmet and body armor in some bunker, who is going to attack him there, considering that Zelya is in his pajamas
    1. +1
      3 February 2025 17: 33
      He expects a shot in the back, but he sniffs the greens and the sea is knee-deep for him.
  7. -1
    3 February 2025 17: 26
    The most relevant for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this situation.)) Well done, Syrnick, keep it up!)))
  8. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 30
    "As part of Syrsky's reform of the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of general and colonel positions will be increased" —

    — The conscious ones have bred colonels and generals, there aren’t enough positions for everyone...
  9. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 32
    Well, now I'm not the same as before! wassat
    Checkmate to you!
    Finally.
  10. +1
    3 February 2025 17: 33
    Ukrainian military often explain their failures at the front lack of poor organization APU

    The author could have written it more simply, as in military reports: "due to the presence of absence..." Otherwise it smacks of quotes from the eloquent Kyiv mayor: "not only everything"! crying
    1. +2
      3 February 2025 17: 47
      Quote: Scharnhorst
      The author would have written it more simply, as in military reports: "due to the presence of absence..."
      Yep ...
      General meeting at the collective farm.
      Agenda:
      1. Repair of the cowshed.
      2. The construction of communism.

      The chairman of the collective farm speaks:
      - Due to the lack of nails, I suggest we move on to the second question...
      laughing
  11. +2
    3 February 2025 17: 36
    Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksandr Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine, abandoning the brigade system and switching to a divisional-corps structure.

    Most likely he was going to form army corps, there won't be enough for mechanized equipment. And with the formation of army corps, everything is not so simple and it is not about the generals.
  12. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 51
    Now divisional-corps structure: Ukrainian commander-in-chief Syrsky announced a plan to reform the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    In a mess/brothel, fire and flood at the same time... they will rearrange the beds.
  13. +3
    3 February 2025 17: 54
    There is nothing good in the news, tell Shoigu and his other hundreds of friends under investigation about the horses at the crossing.
    Now Russia's success is largely based on finding areas of the front with weak brigades. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have a very strong difference in level between voluntary associations and busified ones. The divisional system will unite them within one unit and help to spread their level among a large number of soldiers, which will create problems for our current method of attack and will require a change in at least tactics, and perhaps even strategy of conducting military operations. Let's hope that chaos will win again in Ukraine and instead of reform we will get half measures.
    1. 0
      3 February 2025 18: 29
      Quote: Xocelolprox
      Let's hope that chaos will win again in Ukraine and instead of reform we will get half measures.

      I would like to believe it, but we do not know from which units the corps will be formed, it is not realistic to remove from the LBS. It is possible that they will be formed from separate units of different units.
    2. 0
      3 February 2025 20: 45
      The divisional system will unite them within one unit.

      Excuse me, could you please explain your idea more clearly? Brigades (i.e. formations) cannot be combined within the framework of one unit (i.e. a battalion maximum).
  14. 0
    3 February 2025 17: 56
    And these too suddenly learned that the brigades are not for a full-scale war, but only for local operations. God is on the side of the divisions.
    1. -1
      3 February 2025 21: 20
      But, apparently, the Ukrainian brigades are much larger in number than our brigades and are only slightly smaller in number than the divisions.
  15. -1
    3 February 2025 18: 01
    As part of Syrsky's reform of the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of general and colonel positions will be increased at the expense of the headquarters of the army corps of the Ukrainian army


    Of course, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to catch up with the Russian army in terms of the number of generals and admirals; we have more generals than anyone else in the world, of course, we don’t have enough soldiers and sailors, but there are always more than enough generals and admirals for an army of three million people...
  16. BAI
    0
    3 February 2025 18: 37
    Rejection of the NATO system and return to the Soviet system.
    What about the rejection of the Soviet legacy?
    Although they may say that they are using the experience of the Wehrmacht
    1. -1
      3 February 2025 21: 21
      The Americans have divisions, which consist of brigades, and brigades consist of battalions.
  17. +1
    3 February 2025 19: 06
    As part of Syrsky's reform of the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of general and colonel positions will be increased
    Will Trump pay for the general's salary? wink
  18. 0
    3 February 2025 20: 19
    The essence of the matter: until now the Ukrainian Armed Forces fought in brigades that, as needed, were united into TEMPORARY units - TTUs.
    This was apparently done due to the relatively small overall number of troops.

    Now 3-6 brigades will be consolidated into FULL-FLEDGED corps with PERMANENT command, headquarters, reinforcements, etc., as is customary everywhere.
    This may indirectly indicate a planned general INCREASE in the number of troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    Either through total mobilization, or... through the influx of fresh forces from outside. wink
  19. 0
    4 February 2025 02: 13
    At present, the Ukrainian command has already begun to reform the organizational structure of the country's armed forces.
    Pure fascists! It's time for the Nazis to think about "Hende Hoch!", and they are slapping on "reforming the country's armed forces"! Will this "country" exist after its collapse? wassat
  20. 0
    4 February 2025 04: 52
    As they stole, so will they steal.
  21. 0
    4 February 2025 11: 51
    Why didn't the author even mention that the formation of large military units was always regarded as one of the signs of preparation for active offensive actions? Or is your head spinning from the fact that ours are advancing everywhere? So soon we can very well expect a repeat of the Kursk events.
  22. 0
    4 February 2025 17: 52
    Syrsky remembered what they taught in the "Kremlin." It was the politicians who bowed down to the United States who imposed the brigade system on us, which is good in colonial wars. But in a large-scale war with an equal enemy, it collapses. It's good that at least before the SVO they realized this and began to revive the system of the Soviet Army, but it is very easy to "reform" (destroy), but to recreate, especially when everything is changing, is difficult. In addition, much still needs to be revived: military science and the country's air defense, etc., in addition, the West is waging a war in the information field, education alone is worth something. Only the lazy do not talk about the dominance of the 5th column, and despite three years of the SVO, the cart is still there.