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The Netherlands intends to reduce the number of purchased lightning-35 F-2 fighters

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The order for multi-purpose fighters of the fifth generation F-35 is likely to be reduced, Reuters reported, citing sources familiar with the negotiations.


The reason for this step is the rising cost of the aircraft, the delay in the implementation of the program, the lack of a coherent defense strategy for the Netherlands, and the established practice of reducing defense spending in European countries.

The Netherlands MoD initially considered buying up to the 85 new F-35A aircraft with regular take-off and landing to replace the existing F-16. Currently, the status of the program is not completely determined. According to sources from Reuters, the number of F-35 purchased can be reduced by 17-33 units. The final figure may be called before the end of the current year.

The Netherlands, along with the UK and Italy, is one of the main partners in the F-35 development program and has currently invested billion euros (1,233 billion dollars) into the 1,59 project. Despite this, the country's leadership is conducting a comprehensive assessment of the acquisition. At the end of last year, the ruling coalition formed by the People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy and the Labor Party reached an agreement that the decision to acquire a new combat aircraft for the country's Air Force would be made by 2014 year based on an extensive assessment of various options.

At the same time, the People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy and Prime Minister Mark Rutte who heads it are supporters of the acquisition of American aircraft, and the Labor Party in July 2012 of the year urged to abandon the purchase.

Last year, Secretary of Defense Hans Hillen said that the number of aircraft purchased could be reduced to 56 units.

The government coalition plans to complete the development of a new defense strategy, which will affect the determination of the number of aircraft acquired, this year.

A recent analysis by the Court of Accounts of the Netherlands (Algemene Rekenkamer) of the cost of purchasing F-35 Lightning-2 fighters indicated that the BN euros initially allocated for the 4,5 project would not be enough to acquire the planned 85 fighters. These funds can only be purchased around 35 aircraft.

According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek 25 March 2013 10: 22 New
    +7
    And why does he have so many flags on board? Who is in the know?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 29 New
      19
      Quote: Vanek

      And why does he have so many flags on board?

      Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development.
      hello Ivan hi
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 25 March 2013 10: 39 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Vanek

        And why does he have so many flags on board?

        Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development.


        It’s strange the United States to see there. then they get grannies and breed.

        quote

        According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.

        Oh unrealistic.

        -Gene we need chrome boots?
        -Need Cheburashka.
        -Gene and there is garbage in them.
        -Well, shake it out.
        - I can’t Gene, he holds my ears.
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 25 March 2013 11: 21 New
          +1
          For information:(what they wanted and what is already there)Article 11.03.2013/17/21 XNUMX:XNUMX

          "... Solemn ceremony roll out (precise definition) second fifth-generation fighter F-35 Lightning II, intended for the Dutch Air Force, took place in Texas at the Lockheed Martin company in Fort Worth. This F-35 aircraft received the designation AN-2. It is expected that factory testing of the aircraft will begin in the near future. Before the start of ground and flight tests, a 5th generation fighter must pass a fuel system test. By the summer of this year, the aircraft will be painted and relocated to the state of Florida at the Eglin Air Force Base, where the Netherlands Air Force unit is located, which conducts aircraft tests and trains pilots and technicians.

          Dutch Ministry of Defense considers acquisition up to 85 new fifth generation aircraft F-35 version with conventional take-off and landing. To date, the status of the program has not yet been determined. At the end of 2012, the new ruling coalition agreed that the decision to acquire new combat aircraft for the country's Air Force would be postponed until 2014 based on the evaluation of various options ... "
          (http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/704-fighter-f35-for-air-force-netherland
          s)

          ... The air force of the Netherlands - an independent type of armed forces. To date, according to the foreign press, there are about 20 thousand people (more than 13 thousand full-time military personnel, almost 4 thousand contract employees, 3 thousand civil servants), more than 170 combat 12 military transport aircraft and more 90 helicopters for various purposes ....
          Here, damn it, the militarists !!! As soon as they all have enough sky over Holland?
          1. qwert
            qwert 25 March 2013 11: 27 New
            10
            Quote: zanoza
            . This F-35 aircraft received the designation AN-2.

            Good name An-2. So it became known who they took during the design as a prototype.

            It’s just the number of such 20 that the Dutch need to pollinate marijuana
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 25 March 2013 13: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: zanoza
            "... The roll-out ceremony (exact definition) of the second fifth-generation F-35 Lightning II fighter, intended for the Netherlands Air Force, took place in Texas at Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth.

            Rolled out and rolled back .... so as not to scratch. smile
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 25 March 2013 13: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development

        Well, why do you open your eyes to life with suckers? Well, it’s not by concept, in kind! laughing good
    2. Yashka Gorobets
      Yashka Gorobets 25 March 2013 11: 46 New
      +1
      It’s they who are buying lol
    3. Asgard
      Asgard 25 March 2013 11: 50 New
      +3
      America is weakened and even the worn-out Oran surname (which is ruled by the country of tulips) decided to throw the American Corporation with the purchase ....
      As a rule, conversations begin that we don’t need the agreed number, then there will be a kiddock with the whole party .... and why should the state use fighters if the territory does not allow a full-fledged airfield ..... and it’s impossible to make a combat turn, not flying into the territory of neighboring states .....

      flags, these are the suckers that declared ......., ALREADY))) purchase of an unfinished aircraft)))
    4. ultra
      ultra 25 March 2013 12: 38 New
      +1
      Over $ 2011 billion was spent on the development of the aircraft in April 56. [62]
      The cost of both small batch (LRIP) and large batch (FRP) samples:
      Contract Date Lot Number and Versions Unit Price (Million) Notes
      April 2007 LRIP-1 F-35A - 2 units. $ 221,2 -
      July 2007 LRIP-2 F-35A - 6 units $ 161,7 The cost of the party increased from 771 million to 1,15 billion,
      due to the increase in the launch of the series [63]
      The contract includes the costs of the previous installment.
      May 2008 LRIP-3 F-35A - 9 units
      F-35B - 12 units. $ 128,2
      (average per unit) Includes 2 F-35B for the British Air Force and 1 F-35A for the Dutch Air Force [64]
      The contract includes the costs of the previous installment.
      November 2009 LRIP-4 F-35A - 13 units
      F-35B - 15 units.
      F-35C - 4 units. F-35A - $ 111,6
      F-35B - $ 109,4
      F-35C - $ 142,9 First installment with a fixed unit price.
      Includes 1 F-35B for the British Air Force and 1 F-35A for the Netherlands Air Force. [65]
      December 2011 LRIP-5 F-35A - 22 units.
      F-35B - 3 units.
      F-35C - 7 units. F-35A - $ 107 million [66]
      F-35B -?
      F-35C -? The total cost of the party is $ 4 billion. [67]
      March 2012 LRIP-6 31 units n / a -
      June 2012 LRIP-7 F-35A - 19 units
      F-35B - 6 units.
      F-35C - 4 units. n / a -
      2014 (plan) LRIP-8 90 units (plan) n / a -
      2015 (plan) FRP-1 107 units. (plan) n / a The first batch of large-scale production
      2019 (plan) FRP n / a F-35A - $ 83,4
      F-35B - $ 108,1
      F-35C - $ 93,3 [39]
      (plan) -
      1. Su24
        Su24 25 March 2013 17: 19 New
        -1
        it was indicated that the initial allocation of 4,5 billion euros would not be enough to acquire the planned 85 fighters. With these funds, you can buy only about 35 aircraft.


        Or $ 167 million for a production plane. And the price may rise. Someone was terribly dissatisfied when, according to the results of an article about the Norwegian Air Force, I concluded that the Norgs allocate about 200 lyam for one plane.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 March 2013 16: 29 New
      +1
      Purchase plan for all models of the F-35 for the needs of the USA and NATO countries

      USA 2443
      United Kingdom 138
      Italy 90
      Turkey 100
      Australia 100
      The netherlandss 85
      Canada 65
      Norway 52
      Denmark 30
      Total 3103

      And now on the internet we are looking for news on these countries. Australia refuses, Denmark refuses, Canada cuts, Holland cuts by 2/3 to 33, Italy considers refusal. And in the United States, the procurement plan was reduced by 200 units.

      Netherlands - in the news itself.

      Australia - “The Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs, Arms and Trade (JSCFADT) of Australia held a meeting whose purpose was to assess the need to purchase American F-35 Lightning II fighters for the Australian Air Force. According to The Canberra Times, representatives of the analytical agency Air Power Australia spoke at the meeting and RepSim, a simulator company that says the US and Australia are developing “wrong plane” that should not be bought. Speakers at the meeting demanded that the Australian government refuse to purchase the F-35 and begin to put pressure on the US government to allow the sale of F-22 fighter aircraft by the Australian Air Force. F-22 exports are currently prohibited by law for reasons of copy protection of key technologies. "

      Canada - "Government of Canada suspended financing of the procurement program promising fighters F-35 Lightning II due to the fact that the country's Ministry of Defense hid information about the true cost of aircraft from parliament. According to Defense News, the government also decided to transfer the F-35 program from the Ministry of Defense directly to its control. "

      Denmark - "Danish Ministry of Defense as a result of several years of negotiations with the Pentagon refused to purchase American looking fifth-generation fighter F-35 Lightning II. According to The Copenhagen Post, the reason for the refusal was the increase in the cost of the fighter compared to the price declared at the beginning of the project. "

      Italy “The Italian government has embarked on another phase of defense spending cuts. This time, the procurement program for the fifth generation F-35 Lightning-2 multi-role fighter will be seriously revised.
      According to Aviation Week, at least a third of the 131 F-35 fighters planned for purchase will be reduced. At the same time, some parties with a minority in the Italian parliament advocate the complete curtailment of the program. Respectively, Italy refused to purchase the first prototype F-35 from the number produced in the third batch (Lot 3) of small-scale production. The purchase of the second previously planned F-35 in the fourth batch (Lot 4) was also canceled."

      Now look Britain - "It should be noted that the UK originally planned purchase 138 F-35B fighters. In October 2010, the country's government unveiled a national security strategy whose goal was to reduce defense spending while maintaining the overall combat effectiveness of the troops. This document was intended to halve the purchase of the F-35. "
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 25 March 2013 16: 34 New
        +2
        Turkey - "According to DefenseNews, Turkey postponed the acquisition on January 11, 2013 the first two F-35 fighters due to technical problems and rising costs. However, it was emphasized that in the future the country still plans to purchase one hundred aircraft. The Defense Industry Secretariat said in a statement: "Due to the current state of the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) program and the rising cost, it was decided to postpone the order for the purchase of two aircraft placed on January 5, 2012." The Undersecretariat for Defense Industry Secretariat - SSM, the public authority responsible for arms purchases for Turkey, made a statement that the decision was made because the technical capabilities of the F-35 are "not yet at the desired level."
  2. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 25 March 2013 10: 24 New
    +3
    F 35 - the grandest project in terms of scale!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 25 March 2013 10: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Dwarfik

      F 35 - the grandest project in terms of scale!

      There probably even Sirdyukov participated! laughing
      1. kostyan77708
        kostyan77708 25 March 2013 11: 50 New
        +4
        that's his whole essence bully
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 25 March 2013 13: 42 New
          +1
          And glory to the gods!
          We are only happy repeat
    2. alexng
      alexng 25 March 2013 10: 38 New
      +4
      text from article
      F-35 fifth-generation multipurpose fighter order likely to be cut


      To one. lol
  3. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 25 March 2013 10: 29 New
    +4
    And what as an exhibition model for the show to buy pieces and show the whole thing, oh what a beautiful "Ax" for gays it is. And those who gave the loot to the development campaign flags.
  4. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 25 March 2013 10: 32 New
    0
    Yes, the campaign there was not without our friends ...
  5. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 25 March 2013 10: 40 New
    0
    The good news is, they may refuse to buy at all - even better.
  6. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 25 March 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    Yeah, the partners began to wrinkle the skin on .ope ...... So far, only to "reduce the number", but actually check the reaction of the Washington regional committee, if they do not force a "sexual intercourse" with the Fu-35, then nobody even will not look ....
  7. queen
    queen 25 March 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    Marriage under duress)))) Europeans got involved at most do not spoil it. They still have to maintain and serve. Full w..a smile
  8. Stiletto
    Stiletto 25 March 2013 11: 15 New
    +1
    These flags are marks of victories over the countries that Washington has spread to finance the "flying ax." In principle, above them it is possible to write large in Russian (well, or in English): "suckers." And further - a list of countries participating in the project.
  9. sens17
    sens17 25 March 2013 11: 23 New
    -5
    NATO already has about 190 F22, and most of the F18 / F16 has been modernized. Pilots fly for a long time and gain experience. Actually, F35, judging by the wiki, has already built about 60 pieces.
    We, by the way, do not have a 5th generation destroyer yet, and all the news about the supply / modernization of five or ten new aircraft looks ridiculous against the background of these numbers.

    Actually, with aviation and pilot training, they are doing fine, we are talking about updating the fleet. And, if you think about it, even the adjusted purchase figures of some Holland look pretty impressive.
    1. ultra
      ultra 25 March 2013 12: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: sens17
      NATO already has around 190 F22,

      Not with NATO, but with the USA! hi
    2. MY THOUGHT
      MY THOUGHT 25 March 2013 14: 30 New
      +2
      how much can be judged from the publications, not one f 22 was not used in the active air defense zone, although its invisibility was intended to break through it, why? , And the fact that the guys built 60 !!! prototypes smile WITH SUCH SUCCESS, THEY COULD BE SIMPLY TO DRAW THEM ON PAPER
  10. DmitryMSK
    DmitryMSK 25 March 2013 11: 24 New
    +2
    Hmm. Amers Europeans erected like loshki wassat
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 March 2013 13: 23 New
      0
      Quote: DmitryMSK
      Hmm. Amers Europeans erected as wassat

      For the umpteenth time! laughing
      And unfortunately, this does not teach them anything ..
  11. qwert
    qwert 25 March 2013 11: 24 New
    +2
    And simply does not completely refuse the Dutch upbringing ?????
    Or national traditions, there are different BDSM ?????

  12. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 25 March 2013 11: 29 New
    +2
    the farther - the less willing)))))))))))))) shorter fools are becoming less and less))))))))))))))
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 March 2013 13: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: Dart Weyder
      the farther - the less willing)))))))))))))) shorter fools are becoming less and less))))))))))))))

      And they need it (Euroleucheans laughing ) offer the Su-27, it will definitely be better than the Fu-35! Instead of simply writing off (by developing a resource), it will be possible to raise the native defense of the Babos! lol
  13. elmi
    elmi 25 March 2013 11: 44 New
    +3
    Let tulips grow better, they get it better
  14. Alikovo
    Alikovo 25 March 2013 11: 49 New
    +1
    orders were cut by australia netherlands canada. who is next?
  15. vadimm
    vadimm 25 March 2013 11: 55 New
    0
    no matter what the topic is about f35, so immediately some inappropriate childish ridicule. but in fact, do not laugh. it parasitizes that some small countries, by the way consisting of a military bloc, even need such a minimally reduced number, why do they even need at least 1 plane?
    or in our case, in case of war, we’ll fight the whole world with rhinestones, and the supply is only 60 pieces, is that not a laugh
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 25 March 2013 12: 22 New
      0
      Well, they have already invested 1,6 billion dollars, here you will not refuse, they will buy.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 March 2013 13: 33 New
      0
      Quote: vadimm
      why do they even need at least 1 plane? why!

      This is a competent scam-financial policy of the State Department! laughing
      It has not yet reached the European suckers.
    3. Su24
      Su24 25 March 2013 17: 45 New
      0
      They do not need, they fulfill their obligations under NATO. As a member of the bloc, Holland is obliged to buy production equipment from NATO countries, and as a country that participated in the development of the F-35 at one time, this aircraft. They have a GDP of 860 billion, they can afford such a purchase.
  16. z-exit
    z-exit 25 March 2013 12: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: qwert
    Good name An-2. So it became known who they took during the design as a prototype

    Moreover, the flight characteristics, apparently, will be very similar))
  17. Bort radist
    Bort radist 25 March 2013 12: 29 New
    +5
    Quote: z-exit
    Moreover, the flight characteristics, apparently, will be very similar))

    And here you are mistaken! AN-2 will be cooler, from the ground, in frost and thunderstorms is not afraid wink
  18. Sharingan
    Sharingan 25 March 2013 12: 37 New
    0
    Yeah. It would be better in Europe to do another Eurofighter, what the hell got in touch with the USA. Share.
  19. rpek32
    rpek32 25 March 2013 13: 25 New
    +1
    According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.


    I drank it, but the local Serdyukov reassured everyone. laughing laughing
  20. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 25 March 2013 13: 32 New
    +1
    Stop guys, did you sit there in coffee shops? Go ahead! You can’t cut back on purchases of such a valuable item!
  21. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 25 March 2013 15: 35 New
    0
    Well, you say so, the plane is good - these are bad amers winked
  22. Hemi cuda
    Hemi cuda 26 March 2013 07: 56 New
    0
    Gee gee Lockhart Martynitch arranged a funny scam for the loot)))