The Netherlands intends to reduce the number of purchased lightning-35 F-2 fighters

The order for multi-purpose fighters of the fifth generation F-35 is likely to be reduced, Reuters reported, citing sources familiar with the negotiations.

The reason for this step is the rising cost of the aircraft, the delay in the implementation of the program, the lack of a coherent defense strategy for the Netherlands, and the established practice of reducing defense spending in European countries.

The Netherlands MoD initially considered buying up to the 85 new F-35A aircraft with regular take-off and landing to replace the existing F-16. Currently, the status of the program is not completely determined. According to sources from Reuters, the number of F-35 purchased can be reduced by 17-33 units. The final figure may be called before the end of the current year.

The Netherlands, along with the UK and Italy, is one of the main partners in the F-35 development program and has currently invested billion euros (1,233 billion dollars) into the 1,59 project. Despite this, the country's leadership is conducting a comprehensive assessment of the acquisition. At the end of last year, the ruling coalition formed by the People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy and the Labor Party reached an agreement that the decision to acquire a new combat aircraft for the country's Air Force would be made by 2014 year based on an extensive assessment of various options.

At the same time, the People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy and Prime Minister Mark Rutte who heads it are supporters of the acquisition of American aircraft, and the Labor Party in July 2012 of the year urged to abandon the purchase.

Last year, Secretary of Defense Hans Hillen said that the number of aircraft purchased could be reduced to 56 units.

The government coalition plans to complete the development of a new defense strategy, which will affect the determination of the number of aircraft acquired, this year.

A recent analysis by the Court of Accounts of the Netherlands (Algemene Rekenkamer) of the cost of purchasing F-35 Lightning-2 fighters indicated that the BN euros initially allocated for the 4,5 project would not be enough to acquire the planned 85 fighters. These funds can only be purchased around 35 aircraft.

According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.

Comments

[Vanek]

And why does he have so many flags on board? Who is in the know?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Vanek

And why does he have so many flags on board?

Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development.
hello Ivan

[vorobey]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Vanek

And why does he have so many flags on board?

Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development.

It’s strange the United States to see there. then they get grannies and breed.

quote

According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.

Oh unrealistic.

-Gene we need chrome boots?
-Need Cheburashka.
-Gene and there is garbage in them.
-Well, shake it out.
- I can’t Gene, he holds my ears.

[zanoza]

For information:(what they wanted and what is already there)Article 11.03.2013/17/21 XNUMX:XNUMX

"... Solemn ceremony roll out (precise definition) second fifth-generation fighter F-35 Lightning II, intended for the Dutch Air Force, took place in Texas at the Lockheed Martin company in Fort Worth. This F-35 aircraft received the designation AN-2. It is expected that factory testing of the aircraft will begin in the near future. Before the start of ground and flight tests, a 5th generation fighter must pass a fuel system test. By the summer of this year, the aircraft will be painted and relocated to the state of Florida at the Eglin Air Force Base, where the Netherlands Air Force unit is located, which conducts aircraft tests and trains pilots and technicians.

Dutch Ministry of Defense considers acquisition up to 85 new fifth generation aircraft F-35 with conventional takeoff and landing. To date, the status of the program has not yet been determined. At the end of 2012, the new ruling coalition agreed that the decision to purchase new combat aircraft for the country's Air Force would be postponed until 2014, based on an assessment of various options ... " (http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/704-fighter-f35-for-air-force-netherland
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... The air force of the Netherlands - an independent type of armed forces. To date, according to the foreign press, there are about 20 thousand people (more than 13 thousand full-time military personnel, almost 4 thousand contract employees, 3 thousand civil servants), more than 170 combat 12 military transport aircraft and more 90 helicopters for various purposes ....
Here, damn it, the militarists !!! As soon as they all have enough sky over Holland?

[qwert]

Quote: zanoza

. This F-35 aircraft received the designation AN-2.

Good name An-2. So it became known who they took during the design as a prototype.

It’s just the number of such 20 that the Dutch need to pollinate marijuana

[Vladimirets]

Quote: zanoza

"... The roll-out ceremony (exact definition) of the second fifth generation F-35 Lightning II fighter, intended for the Netherlands Air Force, was held in Texas at the Lockheed Martin facility in Fort Worth.

Rolled out and rolled back .... so as not to scratch.

[Arkan]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Flags of countries of suckers who believed in this plane and partially involved in its development

Well, why do you open your eyes to life with suckers? Well, it’s not by concept, in kind!

[Yashka Gorobets]

It’s they who are buying

[Asgard]

America is weakened and even the worn-out Oran surname (which is ruled by the country of tulips) decided to throw the American Corporation with the purchase ....
As a rule, conversations begin that we don’t need the agreed number, then there will be a kiddock with the whole party .... and why should the state use fighters if the territory does not allow a full-fledged airfield ..... and it’s impossible to make a combat turn, not flying into the territory of neighboring states .....

flags, these are the suckers that declared ......., ALREADY))) purchase of an unfinished aircraft)))

[ultra]

Over $ 2011 billion was spent on the development of the aircraft in April 56. [62]
The cost of both small batch (LRIP) and large batch (FRP) samples:
Contract date Batch Quantity and versions Unit cost (million) Notes
April 2007 LRIP-1 F-35A - 2 units. $221,2 -
July 2007 LRIP-2 F-35A - 6 units. $161,7 The cost of the party increased from 771 million to 1,15 billion,
due to the increase in the launch of the series [63]
The contract includes the costs of the previous installment.
May 2008 LRIP-3 F-35A - 9 units.
F-35B - 12 units. $128,2
(average per unit) Includes 2 F-35Bs for the RAF and 1 F-35A for the Netherlands Air Force[64]
The contract includes the costs of the previous installment.
November 2009 LRIP-4 F-35A - 13 units.
F-35B - 15 units.
F-35C - 4 units. F-35A - $111,6
F-35B - $ 109,4
F-35C - $142,9 First batch with a fixed unit price.
Includes 1 F-35B for the British Air Force and 1 F-35A for the Netherlands Air Force. [65]
December 2011 LRIP-5 F-35A - 22 units.
F-35B - 3 units.
F-35C - 7 units. F-35A - $107 million[66]
F-35B -?
F-35C - ? The total cost of the party is $4 billion.[67]
March 2012 LRIP-6 31 units n/a -
June 2012 LRIP-7 F-35A - 19 units.
F-35B - 6 units.
F-35C - 4 units. n/a -
2014 (plan) LRIP-8 90 units (plan) n/a -
2015 (plan) FRP-1 107 units (plan) n/a First batch of large-scale production
2019 (planned) FRP n/a F-35A - $83,4
F-35B - $ 108,1
F-35C - $ 93,3 [39]
(plan) -

[Su24]

it was indicated that the initial allocation of 4,5 billion euros would not be enough to acquire the planned 85 fighters. With these funds, you can buy only about 35 aircraft.

Or $ 167 million for a production plane. And the price may rise. Someone was terribly dissatisfied when, according to the results of an article about the Norwegian Air Force, I concluded that the Norgs allocate about 200 lyam for one plane.

[Lord of the Sith]

Purchase plan for all models of the F-35 for the needs of the USA and NATO countries

USA 2443
United Kingdom 138
Italy 90
Turkey 100
Australia 100
The netherlandss 85
Canada 65
Norway 52
Denmark 30
Total 3103

And now on the internet we are looking for news on these countries. Australia refuses, Denmark refuses, Canada cuts, Holland cuts by 2/3 to 33, Italy considers refusal. And in the United States, the procurement plan was reduced by 200 units.

Netherlands - in the news itself.

Australia - "The Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs, Armaments and Trade (JSCFADT) of Australia held a meeting to assess the need for the purchase of American F-35 Lightning II fighters for the Australian Air Force. The Canberra Times reports that representatives of the analytical agency Air Power Australia spoke at the meeting. and simulator company RepSim, who said the United States and Australia were developing "wrong plane", which should not be bought... Speakers at the meeting demanded that the Australian government abandon the purchase of the F-35 and begin to pressure the US government to allow the sale of F-22 fighters to the Australian Air Force. F-22 export is currently prohibited by law for reasons of copy protection of key technologies. "

Canada - "Government of Canada suspended financing of the procurement program promising fighters F-35 Lightning II due to the fact that the country's Ministry of Defense hid information from parliament about the true cost of the aircraft. According to Defense News, the government has also decided to transfer the F-35 program from the Ministry of Defense directly to its control. "

Denmark - "The Danish Defense Ministry as a result of several years of negotiations with the Pentagon refused to purchase American looking fifth-generation fighter F-35 Lightning II... According to The Copenhagen Post, the reason for the refusal was the increase in the cost of the fighter compared to the price announced at the beginning of the project. "

Italy - “The Italian government has embarked on another phase of cutting defense spending. This time, the procurement program for the fifth generation F-35 Lightning 2 multirole fighters will be seriously revised.
According to Aviation Week, at least a third of the 131 F-35 fighters planned for purchase will be reduced. At the same time, some parties with a minority in the Italian parliament advocate the complete curtailment of the program. Respectively, Italy refused to purchase the first prototype F-35 from the number produced in the third batch (Lot 3) of small-scale production. The purchase of the second previously planned F-35 in the fourth batch (Lot 4) was also canceled."

Now look Britain - "It should be noted that the UK originally planned purchase 138 F-35B fighters. In October 2010, the country's government unveiled a national security strategy whose goal was to reduce defense spending while maintaining the overall combat effectiveness of the troops. This document implied cutting the volume of the purchase of the F-35 in half. "

[Lord of the Sith]

Turkey - "According to DefenseNews, Turkey on January 11, 2013 postponed the acquisition the first two F-35 fighters due to technical problems and rising costs... However, it was stressed that in the future the country still plans to purchase one hundred aircraft. The Defense Industry Secretariat said: "Due to the current state of the JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) program and the rise in cost, it was decided to postpone the order placed on January 5, 2012 for the purchase of two aircraft." Undersecretariat for Defense Industry - SSM - the public authority responsible for the procurement of weapons for Turkey, said the decision was made due to the fact that the technical capabilities of the F-35 are "not yet at the desired level."

[Dwarfik]

F 35 - the grandest project in terms of scale!

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Dwarfik

F 35 - the grandest project in terms of scale!

There probably even Sirdyukov participated!

[kostyan77708]

that's his whole essence

[Refund_SSSR]

And glory to the gods!
We are only happy

[alexng]

text from article
F-35 fifth-generation multipurpose fighter order likely to be cut

To one.

[slavik_gross]

And what as an exhibition sample for the show to buy pieces and show everyone, oh, what beautiful "Axes" for gays is the very thing. And the flags of the campaign are those who gave the loot for development.

[slavik_gross]

Yes, the campaign there was not without our friends ...

[Ruslan_F38]

The good news is, they may refuse to buy at all - even better.

[ziqzaq]

Yeah, the partners began to wrinkle their skin on .ope ...... So far, only to "reduce the number", but in fact they are checking the reaction of the Washington regional committee, if they do not force to "intercourse" with Fu-35, then nobody will won't look ...

[queen]

Marriage under duress)))) Europeans got involved at most do not spoil it. They still have to maintain and serve. Full w..a

[Stiletto]

These flags are the marks of victories over countries that Fashington raised to fund the "flying ax". In principle, above them you can write in Russian (well, or in English): "LOCHI". And then - the list of countries participating in the project.

[sens17]

NATO already has about 190 F22, and most of the F18 / F16 has been modernized. Pilots fly for a long time and gain experience. Actually, F35, judging by the wiki, has already built about 60 pieces.
We, by the way, do not have a 5th generation destroyer yet, and all the news about the supply / modernization of five or ten new aircraft looks ridiculous against the background of these numbers.

Actually, with aviation and pilot training, they are doing fine, we are talking about updating the fleet. And, if you think about it, even the adjusted purchase figures of some Holland look pretty impressive.

[ultra]

Quote: sens17

NATO already has around 190 F22,

Not with NATO, but with the USA!

[MY THOUGHT]

how much can be judged from the publications, not one f 22 was not used in the active air defense zone, although its invisibility was intended to break through it, why? , And the fact that the guys built 60 !!! prototypes WITH SUCH SUCCESS, THEY COULD BE SIMPLY TO DRAW THEM ON PAPER

[DmitryMSK]

Hmm. Amers Europeans erected like loshki

[GSH-18]

Quote: DmitryMSK

Hmm. Amers Europeans erected as wassat

For the umpteenth time!
And unfortunately, this does not teach them anything ..

[qwert]

And simply does not completely refuse the Dutch upbringing ?????
Or national traditions, there are different BDSM ?????

[Dart weyder]

the farther - the less willing)))))))))))))) shorter fools are becoming less and less))))))))))))))

[GSH-18]

Quote: Dart Weyder

the farther - the less willing)))))))))))))) shorter fools are becoming less and less))))))))))))))

And they need it (Euroleucheans ) offer the Su-27, it will definitely be better than the Fu-35! Instead of simply writing off (by developing a resource), it will be possible to raise the native defense of the Babos!

[elmi]

Let tulips grow better, they get it better

[Alikovo]

orders were cut by australia netherlands canada. who is next?

[vadimm]

no matter what the topic is about f35, so immediately some inappropriate childish ridicule. but in fact, do not laugh. it parasitizes that some small countries, by the way consisting of a military bloc, even need such a minimally reduced number, why do they even need at least 1 plane?
or in our case, in case of war, we’ll fight the whole world with rhinestones, and the supply is only 60 pieces, is that not a laugh

[Nayhas]

Well, they have already invested 1,6 billion dollars, here you will not refuse, they will buy.

[GSH-18]

Quote: vadimm

why do they even need at least 1 plane? why!

This is a competent scam-financial policy of the State Department!
It has not yet reached the European suckers.

[Su24]

They do not need, they fulfill their obligations under NATO. As a member of the bloc, Holland is obliged to buy production equipment from NATO countries, and as a country that participated in the development of the F-35 at one time, this aircraft. They have a GDP of 860 billion, they can afford such a purchase.

[z-exit]

Quote: qwert

Good name An-2. So it became known who they took during the design as a prototype

Moreover, the flight characteristics, apparently, will be very similar))

[Bort radist]

Quote: z-exit

Moreover, the flight characteristics, apparently, will be very similar))

And here you are mistaken! AN-2 will be cooler, from the ground, in frost and thunderstorms is not afraid

[sharingan]

Yeah. It would be better in Europe to do another Eurofighter, what the hell got in touch with the USA. Share.

[rpek32]

According to the US Congress service, the average cost of the F-35 fighter has almost doubled since the start of the program in 2001 (from 69 million to 137 million). At the same time, the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Manager insists that the price of the aircraft will drop to $ 90 million by the year’s 2018.

I drank it, but the local Serdyukov reassured everyone.

[Geisenberg]

Stop guys, did you sit there in coffee shops? Go ahead! You can’t cut back on purchases of such a valuable item!

[Lone gunman]

Well, you say so, the plane is good - these are bad amers

[Hemi cuda]

Gee gee Lockhart Martynitch arranged a funny scam for the loot)))