Who and why wants to kill Russian children so much

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Who and why wants to kill Russian children so much

As is known from the past, there are two troubles in Russia. However, times and people change, and everything can be much more sad if people, for the sake of a "tick" or a line in a report, stop thinking with their heads at all. And one category of people starts to come up with instructions, and the second starts to carry out these instructions.

And then it turns out... Voronezh!




Unlike many cities in Russia, all sorts of things systematically and regularly fly into Voronezh from Ukraine. Yes, not as much as in Belgorod, but they do fly. Thanks to the excellent training of local anti-aircraft gunners (we wrote about them, one of the best units of the Western Military District), nothing significant has been damaged or destroyed in the city in three years. And the damage is minimal, but Voronezh is not as close to the enemy, unlike Kursk and Belgorod.

But this year, someone got the idea that the city wasn't paying enough attention to the threat from the air. And so it began...

The bacchanalia of "wise" decisions swept over the city. They began to install "bomb shelters" at gas stations, designating basements of houses as such. The commissions went straight through and recognized ALL basements of houses as suitable, about which the corresponding announcements were posted.

Honestly: I wouldn't hide in the basement of my home on Komarova Street. Being eaten by a pack of rats in puddles (at best) of water in complete darkness - I'd rather run under fire, I don't have much experience, but I do, and the probability of dying in a basement is much higher.

But we are not even talking about these stupidities now, although stupidity in the performance of the Voronezh authorities is the norm. To demolish a bakery that survived two world wars, a revolution and a civil war, having the status historical building, so that someone could build a residential complex in its place - this is a reality. To cut down apple orchards to build human anthills - this is easy. To disfigure the historical center of a noble city, carefully restored after the war, with a "blue... "organ" (this is how the Marriott hotel is called in the city environment, which completely disfigured the historical face of the city center) - this is also normal.


This construction, the brainchild of Russian urban planners, hangs over the old noble city center, lovingly restored by Soviet people. A better idea to disfigure the historical appearance of the city, probably, will never be invented.

And so on, there have been a lot of “smart” solutions over the last 30 years. But there were also some very smart projects, that cannot be taken away. The Central Park, the embankment again…

However, now we will not talk about construction sites and budget development, but about children. About small and not so small citizens of Russia living in this city and who have become objects of zeal on the part of officials.

I don't know who is to blame for the madness that is being implemented. Perhaps more than one ministry is responsible for what is happening. Yes, Voronezh is not a piece of cake, there are no more departments here. Ministries. With ministers and their deputies.

The Ministry of Education of the Voronezh Region that interests us is headed by Natalya Valeryevna Salogubova and four of her deputies. And here in Natalya Vasilyevna's department there is complete obscurantism, and even interspersed with lies performed by some absolutely irresponsible people from among her subordinates. However, who is more to blame for the situation, those who drew up the orders or those who thoughtlessly execute them, is not for us to judge.

The idea of ​​"taking care" of children by moving them in case of an air strike to some "bomb shelters" or "specially equipped places" was initially so-so, since these bomb shelters do not exist. No, perhaps they are in the ministry's offices, in the reports, but in fact, the school administrations around the city are doing things that are very difficult to describe in censored language.

Let's take as an example such an institution as MBOU Secondary School No. 29. This school is always in scandals, but what to do if the school administration does everything to attract attention?


So, school #29, headed by the director Koroteeva Inna Vyacheslavovna. It should be noted that under the leadership of Inna Vyacheslavovna, the first major renovation in the history of the school was carried out. And this building was built in 1936, and I was there before the renovation began, believe me, it looked more than miserable. After the renovation, the school really looked like a school, and a beautiful one at that, and the cafeteria was reorganized, and the darkish "canteen" with aromas more like a stench, became a real place where you can not just eat, but have a tasty meal. This is what the students themselves say, and who can you believe if not them? And they praise.

In general, everything seems to be fine, but no. Complaints are coming, not everyone was happy, and let's face it, the school administration is to blame for this, as in many other schools.

Here is the local publication "Bloknot" published the responses of the administration of school #29 to the complaint. The claim is quite fair: the school supposedly has a basement, in which, theoretically, it would be possible to organize a bomb shelter and try to send children there during an "air raid", if someone felt the urge to send them somewhere. But no, as I was told, there is a warehouse of materials left over from the renovation.

Therefore, without further ado, according to this answer (this is an excerpt, the answer in full is available, but there is no point in citing it in full):

"When a danger is declared, the school administration and staff act according to an approved algorithm. Students, together with teachers, are sent to a safe place, which may include corridors without windows or with protected windows."

So, a safe place. I translate: the students are simply sent out into the corridors during the alarm. For an hour, two, three, they just hang out in the beautiful, bright corridors. There is not a single corridor in the school without windows, and, naturally, not a single window is protected. Why Koroteeva and her subordinates lie is a question.








Agree, the school looks gorgeous! But absolutely ordinary windows will become a source of a huge number of fragments if something happens. And considering that there are also classrooms with glass walls, it will be absolutely beautiful.



Do you see even one corridor without windows? I don't see one. And no one does. But the children are thrown out, and they stay there until the end of the "air raid alarm" signal.

The same thing is happening, according to the data received, in many schools, gymnasiums and lyceums of the city. Gymnasium No. 5 (director Bolgova Marina Andreevna), Lyceum No. 2 (director Shapovalov Alexander Serafimovich), the list can be continued, the Internet is overflowing with photos and videos from the most unflattering places, such as unequipped basements, without ventilation, where children sit on pipes (apparently - school No. 46, director Artemova Tatyana Vitalievna). The Internet is overflowing, I repeat.

Why do principals and head teachers care so much about children that they are ready to expose them to anything in the name of a report - this is beyond me. Some kind of strange concern, on the edge of reason.

Here we have something like "Military Review" with the corresponding contingent. So let the contingent correct me if I'm thinking in the wrong direction.

If suddenly a real UAV, and this happens with them, loses guidance due to the actions of the same electronic warfare, and ends up in a school. Where will it cause more damage, in a separate room where 20-30 people sit or in a school corridor where a hundred are placed?

The most interesting thing is that in the event of an air raid alarm, if classes are over, children are not released from school. And in some schools, parents are not even given a receipt. And the already mentioned Mrs. Koroteeva personally dragged children back by the hands after classes had ended.

Let them stand in the corridors by the walls and wait for it to arrive.

I don’t know who decided to curry favor with whom, but as usual, everything was done clumsily and at the level of a traveling circus tent.

But the children understand the essence of what is happening. They are not as stupid as the teachers would like them to be, and they evaluate what is happening to them as the most base clown show. Everyone understands perfectly well that if it flies, it will be bloody. The fact that the same Ms. Koroteeva called the new school windows "protected" does not make them armored and will not stop the fragments. On the contrary, they themselves will turn into a damaging factor.

But – the school administrations complied with the order: the children were removed from the classrooms. And as for the completely unprotected places – well, they have no other, and they have to report on the work done.

And children will stand for hours at completely ordinary windows, or sit in unlit, stuffy basements, without water or ventilation – but who cares about all these details? It is important to carry out the order…

And we want to have caring, patriotic children who love their homeland? Don't make me laugh. Teachers and principals should read what their students write about them in their groups after these circus performances. I was introduced to them as a friend. I don't want to be a teacher who drags her students out into the hallway for three hours. Karma won't stand it.

I am simply amazed by the desire to curry favor and report at any cost, without thinking at all about the consequences.

What if it really does arrive? And creates a bloody mess in a corridor like this?

I wonder what the director will say? What arguments will he use in his defense if the standard 5 kg explosive charge for incoming UAVs really does explode?

Gentlemen directors, have you ever thought for a second about what your incredible stupidity, coupled with the desire to carry out orders at any cost, could lead to? And any cost is our children, by the way.

And what's most annoying is that no one even planned to think. Why? They don't get paid for it, right?

Although, you know, there are people in the city who think. Everything is, of course, shameful, but there are exceptions.

There are people in the city who treat their work differently than the above-mentioned gentlemen. For example, there is kindergarten #198, which is headed by Inna Viktorovna Samukhina. She seems to be a teacher, but with the concepts of a completely normal officer. At least, that is how she was described by a user of this kindergarten, a former FPS officer.


Each parent received a piece of paper against signature stating that in the event of an air raid alarm, group "I" (for example) would be located in the corridor between office #5 and the speech therapist's office. And group "M" - between the service toilet and office #11.

Yes, this kindergarten is lucky: it has windowless corridors and a thoughtful director. And indeed, having arrived during the alarm, my correspondent found his child in the designated place and not a meter further. Along the wall are chairs from the dining room (and you still have to bring this), every five meters there is an adult ready to bring a drink, a forgotten doll, without which you can’t wait out the alarm, and so on. The toilet is in the adult, service, not in the groups where the windows are.

It made an impression, I must say, on Comrade Major. But at his wife's sister's, in another kindergarten, without further ado, the children are driven into the toilets. And they stay there for 2-3 hours. But yes, you don't have to go anywhere.

Everything that is happening generally resembles some strange (for now), and in the long term, a terrible dream. In fact, for three years, while the SVO was going on, everything was more or less normal, but why now, when the situation is confidently being led to the end, do we have to start organizing incomprehensible shows in full swing?

It is not worth explaining that the closer to its end, the more the snake of Ukrainian nationalism will try to bite harder. And for this absolutely all means will be good, including strikes not on military objects, but on absolutely civilian ones. Including schools. And, as far as I know the psychology of those who are Ukrainians, and believe me, I am much more familiar with it than many reading this, they will easily allow themselves to do this. At least those who give such orders.

And here, on our side, what? It turns out that there are voluntary helpers/accomplices here? Those who drag children back to schools by the hand and concentrate them there, creating a place of mass gathering of children with the possibility of their mass defeat? And what to do with them then? Oh, judge them by a fair court? Together with those who gave such an obviously stupid and treacherous order? Or immediately award them state awards of Ukraine in absentia?

Well, everything is moving towards the fact that intelligent and thinking people at the lower levels of power will not be needed at all. Maximally devoted to the cause (I almost wrote "party") and merciless to the enemies... of the state. And maximally executive, and, while performing, it is also undesirable to think. In general, "1984" by Mr. Orwell, in all its glory, but in 2025.


And then the surprise through the bloody curtain in the eyes: how is it possible, they built and built barriers, and through them, like a knife through butter, Ukrainian troops entered the Kursk region. How is it possible? Yes, just like that, if they had built fortifications, like in the Belgorod region, and not a bright future for individual citizens at the expense of the budget, then everything could have been different. For some reason, the Ukies did not go to the Belgorod region. Strange, right?

Here they are, the accomplices. And whoever you grab by the lapels, shake - he/she is "for". For Russia, for the SVO, for victory. For everything and at once. Such wholesale patriotism, without thinking. No need to think, "for" - and forward, to execute. Also without thinking.

And the younger generations see the attitude towards themselves. They understand perfectly well a little more than they would like. And what kind of patriots will they grow up to be, I wonder?

In principle, the older generation, those between 25 and 30, have already demonstrated all their patriotism by storming Verkhniy Lars and exploring distant shores. It is unlikely that those who follow them will behave any differently. When the state, and the state is also municipal education officials, who demonstrate such an approach, it is very doubtful that patriotism will grow by leaps and bounds. And nothing can fix this, no "conversations about the main thing" according to hackneyed manuals performed by people who themselves do not believe in what they are mumbling.

And since it has become the case in our country that the main question of existence is "Who is to blame and what to do", then here is the question: who will bear responsibility today in the event of another tragedy in the country? Who gave absolutely stupid orders or those who thoughtlessly carried them out?

And the second question: who will be responsible tomorrow for the emergence of yet another wave of completely apolitical and indifferent citizens who will be raised by their personal examples by such “caring” officials and teachers?

The Russian president is probably to blame, as he does not speak enough about the need to educate young people in the right way. More precisely, Putin speaks more than clearly and a lot, but why none of those who are supposed to implement these plans bother themselves with thoughts on this matter – that is also a question. And clearly not for Putin.

The country's huge problem today is precisely that the local executors are completely unwilling to think and take initiative. We are silent about responsibility; Her Majesty the Reply reigns in people's minds, which is the standard way to solve any problem. The main thing is to give an answer, even if you lie decently, and what happens next - that will happen later.

Of course, until a tragedy happens, until something really hits the school, until someone suffocates in an unequipped basement, until the Belgorod-Voronezh virus flies into other cities, it would be nice if the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, in the style of Bastrykin, took an interest in what is happening in Voronezh. And the Prosecutor General's Office should also inquire on the basis of what acts and documents corridors with windows suddenly turned into bomb shelters. The same applies to basements, on the basis of which they suddenly became such objects.

Of course, if money was allocated from the budget for this, then everything is basically clear, but if not, it would be nice to assess the actions of people who, in order to please someone who is not entirely clear whose interests, expose children to a possible, but still a blow.

Soon it will be three years since the beginning of the SVO. It is time to decide who is for whom. And what to do with those who are not for Russia, especially those who are "for" in words, but in fact are very much against. And it does not matter what chair this person sits in, a ministerial or a directorial one.
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  1. +32
    3 February 2025 03: 51
    Soon it will be three years since the beginning of the SVO. It is time to decide who is for whom. And what to do with those who are not for Russia, especially those who are "for" in words, but in fact are very much against.

    As long as there is no personal responsibility not even for such thoughtlessness, bordering on idiocy, but for outright failures, then Russia will be approaching its own demise the further it goes. And this responsibility has never been and still is not there...
    As an example - the Black Sea Fleet, the Kursk region and a lot of "Puzikovshchina", not to mention the migration service and the multi-hundred-billion dollar ecological hole.
  2. +31
    3 February 2025 04: 05
    More precisely, Putin speaks more than clearly and a lot, but why none of those who are supposed to implement these plans bother themselves with thoughts about this at all – that is also a question. And clearly not to Putin.

    Indeed, for a quarter of a century we have been repeating the same thing, pouring from empty to empty, but the cart is still there.
    Probably, The Russian president will be to blame for not talking enough about the need for education youth in the right way.
    And he is a priori responsible for everything. He is the guarantor of the Constitution that he himself rewrote. It can be said about him: "I led you, I will answer for everything!"
    It was not Lenin who placed his friends and acquaintances everywhere... It was not Stalin who proposed obviously worthless candidates for the positions of the tame State Duma and the pocket Government... All these Medinskys, Manturovs, Golikovs, Pamfilovs, Nabiullins, Medvedevs, Matvienkos and other Merzlyaevs showed themselves in all the glory of their dark deeds...
    M.A. Krylov has a fable called "The Fox-Builder". And there are these words:
    But is there any use to change?
    No: the yard seems to be strong,
    And the fence is dense and high –
    And the chickens are less and less hour by hour.
    Break the trouble, could not come up.
    But Leo ordered to keep watch. Who did they lie in wait for?
    That same fox villain.
    It’s true that she brought the building down
    So that no one burst into it, no way,
    Yes, just for myself I left a loophole.

    When the right people are placed in positions that leave loopholes for themselves in legislation, in duties, in registers, everything happens as it happens.
    The level of accounting, control and responsibility of specific individuals for specific assigned tasks is at a very low level in the country....
    1. +18
      3 February 2025 06: 37
      Quote: yuriy55
      The government obviously has worthless candidates...
      How independent is the president himself, and what course can he take from the combination of Sobchak, Chubais, Yeltsin, is a question. You can look for an answer to this question in Oleg Deripaska's interview. Believe it or not, but it suits the situation.
      N.A. - Nikolay Asmolov, journalist

      O.D. - Oleg Deripaska

      N.A. What is included in the concept of "power"?

      Oleg Deripaska - First of all, a group of people, the elite, capable of making decisions and implementing them. You see, the head of the state apparatus is not necessarily the real leader of the country. He can only use the powers of those who have real power. He may be, for example, a hired manager responsible for coordinating the activities of various businesses in the region, and for the publicity of business and the state. The name is inconsequential - the president, prime minister or something else.

      ON THE. And Putin, excuse me, is he a manager? Or does he make decisions?

      O.D. - The President of Russia is a kind of top manager managing the whole country. He is an intelligent, adequate person, never exceeding the limits of his authority. They noticed how the state apparatus in the White House worked, how the prosecutor’s office, the courts, special services work, how Russian television channels and newspapers work? Just brilliant! Everything helps the economy, business, and does not interfere with us, as it was recently. Under this you can give money, which we do.

      ON. - "We" are big business?

      O.D. - "We" is the Russian real power. Big business is part of our technology.
      1. +7
        3 February 2025 12: 06
        I agree with your comment.

        ... He is an intelligent, adequate person who never exceeds the limits of his authority.


        “We”, which considers itself the real Russian Authority, must have some levers of influence on the top manager who runs the entire country.

        They probably exist because "We" must be sure that a top manager "will never exceed the limits of his authority."
      2. +4
        3 February 2025 22: 50
        O.D. - "We" are the real Russian power. Big business is part of our technology

        I understand the way people like Chubais think. During Yeltsin's time, these US and European agents of influence tried to gain influence and control over Russia's resources, destroy industry, enslave, essentially reducing the country's population to the necessary minimum. Clear. God be their judge.
        But I would like to ask a question to the Russian elites. Over the last 100 years of Russia's existence, there have been periods of its prosperity and periods of kneeling before the West. There have been many things. The children of the parents of bosses and directors, respected people, sometimes became spoiled and disadvantaged. And vice versa. From not very prosperous families, hard workers and conscientious people, luminaries of science, grew up. The centuries-old history of the development of society in general and our country in particular teaches us to understand the main values, meanings. That no matter how rich we are, we will not take it with us and will not provide ourselves with eternal youth, we will not guarantee a bright future for our children with money. More likely, we will only spoil it. Along with this, has any of you thought about the fact that thanks to the merits of our ancestors, you have inherited such a beautiful territory? Something that is not found in Europe, Asia, or Africa. Has none of you really had the desire to preserve it for your children and grandchildren? They will live here after us, they will learn to be people, make their own mistakes and bumps, look for meaning and harmony in life. Learn to live as a human being in human form. Money is a temporary power that does not guarantee happiness to a person. Isn't it? How many more centuries must pass for a person to realize this!?
        Ps: Love your homeland!
        1. +1
          4 February 2025 13: 55
          Andrew, wonderful words - I join in with every word you say!
          With one amendment...
          But I would like to ask a question to the Russian elites.

          ...this is not elite... This is so-so, not even "elite"...
      3. +1
        8 February 2025 21: 13
        Deripaska is a thief who took advantage of such leaders as Yeltsin, Kozyrev, Chubais. And deceived a large number of people - privatized a huge plant. He is a hero here, but abroad - nobody. What did he do when foreigners took away almost everything from him? Well, okay. Although what kind of power is he? Who elected him, who knows? Compared himself to Putin. His turn will come and they will take away from him what was stolen from the people. Not much time left. And that is right.
        Foreign millionaires earn their wealth for generations (almost all of them), and here in a few years he's a billionaire. Ugh.
    2. 0
      4 February 2025 13: 30
      He is the guarantor of the Constitution he himself rewrote. It can be said about him: "I led you, I will answer for everything!"

      I am embarrassed to ask - who has even briefly read this “new edition” of the “edited Basic Law”?
      No, seriously?

      You signed it anywhere - wherever you get caught...
      On benches, on the lids of garbage cans (don’t blame me for everything - I’m saying that I saw it myself in my city).
      1. +2
        4 February 2025 13: 35
        I remembered the character from "Manka-Abligation"...
  3. +16
    3 February 2025 05: 06
    Of course, if money was allocated from the budget for this, then everything is basically clear,


    Here is the essence of funding priorities. Right now, in a similar situation - there is money for curbs with forums, but not for capital repairs of basement shelters. This is a federal issue. ....
    1. +15
      3 February 2025 07: 47
      Quote: samarin1969
      That's the gist of funding priorities.

      Quote: samarin1969
      This is a federal issue...

      I agree 100%. But this should be understood correctly, including the areas of responsibility of officials. Here Roman uploaded all the claims to the school principal, but what is her fault? The principal of a secondary school is a person with a pedagogical education, her main activity is the organization of the educational process. In matters of identifying places where shelters for children can be arranged, specialists from the Russian Guard should work together with builders. They should inspect each room and determine their protective properties or measures for strengthening with proposals to the Ministry of Education of the region on organizing the necessary construction and assembly work. It should be understood that issues of major repairs are not issues for the school, but at least for the Capital Construction Department of the Ministry of Education or the department. And the warehouse in the basement is not due to the director's sloppiness, but due to the indifference of the same Capital Construction Department, which planned and organized the major repairs. Any institution today has accumulated stocks of material and technical equipment, which hangs around the neck of the director and his employees with serious financial liability. But when building a new or reconstructing an old public building (school, hospital, etc.), everyone diligently forgets to build a utility warehouse. And therefore, every manager is forced to violate the rules for the operation of buildings and structures everywhere, because the material reserves for which they (managers) are responsible, including criminal liability, cannot be thrown into the open air. That's where the basements occupied by the school's belongings come from. Where else to put it? And not only the business entity should think about this, but also the organizer of a higher level, because the money and authority for this are at an authority one or two steps higher than the director. And Roman simply did not give his correspondent the command on whom to gnaw... Because he himself did not think about it... but he should have.
      1. RMT
        -1
        3 February 2025 15: 01
        From the Instructions from the website of MBOU Secondary School No. 29. In the Shelter, it is necessary to remain calm, maintain cleanliness and order, provide assistance to the sick, disabled, children, observe safety regulations, follow the instructions of the shelter supervisor, and watch over the children.
        It is prohibited to: smoke, drink alcohol, make noise, talk loudly, use open fire, open and close entrance doors.
        Smoking and drinking alcohol are prohibited!!!
        1. +1
          3 February 2025 16: 23
          Quote: RMT
          Smoking and drinking alcohol are prohibited!!!

          And you probably think that the instructions are written only for children? wink In addition, during a special period, the shelter can accept not only people connected with the school, but also those who happen to be nearby. You won't believe it, but there may be smokers and drinkers among them, with all their paraphernalia. I don't see anything "outstanding" in the instructions. It's good that they already exist...
          1. RMT
            +1
            4 February 2025 08: 57
            the whole site there is made "for the hell of it".
            From the section History of the school: "There was a quarry behind the school, from where rotten waste was taken out... In January 1943, residents saw a terrible picture of an aerial city, everything was in ruins and ruins." Check it out
            1. 0
              4 February 2025 10: 04
              Quote: RMT
              the whole site there is made "for the hell of it".

              You have drawn attention to the ban on smoking and drinking alcohol in the shelter, I have responded to your remark as I see the situation. You want to evaluate the site as a whole. You have the right. I have not seen it and will not join in the evaluation.
  4. +20
    3 February 2025 05: 12
    They wrote this about Voronezh, where housing and communal services were recently raised by 12%, and pensions by 7,3. Yes, recently the "minister" of housing and communal services and his comrades were taken, for now to jail, for theft. But again they will get off with a light fright. And what's going on in the region? The birth rate is two times lower than the death rate (according to Bloknot), I don't even want to write about medicine, the industry is dead, what's left (but there are plenty of stores with English letters), etc. And about children, read the article above. No responsibility or punishment, just chatter from the highest tribune, you know who. Instead of identifying and destroying enemies of the people, they talk about "Soviet galoshes" and blah, blah, blah.
    1. +22
      3 February 2025 05: 36
      Quote: Taimen
      They wrote about Voronezh, where housing and communal services were recently raised by 12%, and pensions by 7,3. Yes, recently the "minister" of housing and communal services and his comrades were taken, for now to jail, for theft. But again they will get off with a light fright. And what is going on in the region? The birth rate is two times lower than the death rate (according to Bloknot), I don't even want to write about medicine.

      The Voronezh region is no different from others in this regard.
      1. GGV
        +5
        3 February 2025 09: 26
        The Voronezh region is different in this regard, in some others things are much worse. Compare at least the Volgograd region with the Voronezh region and it turns out that everything is still not so bad. In Volgograd, at least the roads got a little better when the last governor Bocharov came (but there is still a lot to do), otherwise it is such a depression.
    2. -1
      3 February 2025 15: 14
      You say that the birth rate is lower than the death rate. A small example of a big problem: How maternity capital grew
      Year Sum of thousands Natural population decline
      rubles
      2007 250 -470323
      2008 276.2 -362007
      2009 312.1 -248856
      2010 343.3 -239568
      2011 365.6 -129091
      2012 387.6 -4251
      2013 408.9 24013
      2014 429.4 30336
      2015 453 32038
      2016 453 -2286
      2017 453 -134456
      2018 453 -218394
      2019 453 -316160
      For the firstborn For the second child,
      born after
      1.01.2020/
      if firstborn
      born before
      01.01.20
      2020 466.6 150 / 616.6 -688700
      2021 483.8 155.5 / 639.4 -1427000
      2022 524.5 168.6 / 693.1 -599600
      2023 586.9 188.6 / 775.6 -500300
      2024 630.3 202.2 / 833
      2025 676.3 217.4 / 893.8
      And nobody cares.
  5. +25
    3 February 2025 05: 34
    By the end of the 3rd year of the SVO, which I remind you was started to protect Donbass, we are discussing the problems with Voronezh bomb shelters. Putin, results.
    P.S. As for school principals and teachers, for them, as for most people in modern Russia, the main thing is to report to their superiors. If they tell you to put on tinfoil hats, they will put on tinfoil hats, if they tell you to guard an empty space, they will guard it, etc.
    The report is there, the box is checked. And what will fly in, some kind of security, some kind of children.... It doesn't matter anymore.
    1. 0
      3 February 2025 19: 29
      It feels like the government is conducting a VERY slow-moving rehearsal (thankfully not a dress rehearsal yet) of an inevitable future full-scale conflict with NATO, both at the front and in the rear.
  6. +14
    3 February 2025 05: 48
    As is known from the past, there are two troubles in Russia. However, times and people change

    And these two troubles have now become spiritual bonds.
  7. +11
    3 February 2025 06: 34
    Well, we have a real problem with shelters, it's hard to find even a more or less intact one, let alone one ready to accept people, and when they talk about using nuclear weapons, those people don't understand that we ourselves have nowhere to hide from such attacks. In principle, we have nowhere to hide from any attacks, practically no building protects us from anything, what can I say, we still close fire exits with large barn locks. And so on until the first tragedy, then they rush around for a couple of months, check everything, do everything, and then the lock appears on the door again, and that's how we live.
  8. +2
    3 February 2025 06: 56
    each error has an address, last name, first name, what's the problem?
    1. +13
      3 February 2025 09: 42
      Quote from Mazunga
      each error has an address, last name, first name, what's the problem?

      The only problem is that when finding out these addresses and full names, the investigation does not lead to themselves))) That is the only problem.
  9. +11
    3 February 2025 06: 59
    If the author had visited Lipetsk, Voronezh, according to him, is more or less, Lipetsk is the game of all game,
  10. Des
    +4
    3 February 2025 07: 07
    From the article of the best) (almost without "") author VO: "To be eaten by a pack of rats in puddles (at best) of water in complete darkness" ...
    Emotional, topical and - of course - children + local showdowns. Standard set for impact. Off the charts. As if on order.
    ..."it would be nice to assess the actions of people who, in order to please someone who is not entirely clear whose interests, expose children to a possible, but still a blow."
    Burn with words and deeds!
  11. +7
    3 February 2025 07: 08
    In 1978 they built my school, 3 floors, there was no bomb shelter, we went to the basement for NVP. The basement was not equipped in any way, there wasn't even a floor there - just not aligned priming.
    In 2011, my son went to the same school with the same basement.
    I understand that there is no money for equipment. NOT ADAPTED No one will give you premises for a bomb shelter.
    What should the school principal do???!!!

    No amount of shouting at the level of "As long as there is no personal responsibility...." will provide the finances for the project and re-equipment.
  12. +6
    3 February 2025 07: 23
    In defense of your teachers, I have never been to Voronezh.
    There was a country where there were GOSTs, SNIPs, and Civil Defense. I even took part in the civil defense exercises. That is, everything was written down. And now, the teacher decided that it was better this way, there was no law anyway. So they do whatever God puts on their souls.
    1. +8
      3 February 2025 09: 41
      Quote: Gardamir
      And now, the teacher decided that it was better this way, there was no law anyway. So they do whatever God puts in their souls.

      After state bodies were banned from inspecting small and medium businesses, all right, consumer supervision, headed by the prosecutor's office, is inspecting ped. and medical organizations. And fines are imposed up to 50 rubles for one violation. So don't rush to throw stones at the teacher. If he took old, unwritten-off desks to the basement, it's only because he has no other place to store them. And he bears financial responsibility for the property that is under his control. If he takes it to his own garage, for safekeeping, he will be jailed as a crook. Where to put this property, tell me your decision?
      Quote: Gardamir
      There was a country where there were GOSTs, SNiPs, and Civil Defense.

      Yes, it was until the 60s. And then it ended, because not a single school has a room planned for storing MTBs. And so the director was spinning on his belly, either asking for a trailer from the builders, or a container from a sponsoring organization... And if no one gives anything, then all the junk goes either to the basement or the attic. And then the fire inspector comes and issues a fine... I wonder if this gets to the minister?
  13. +6
    3 February 2025 08: 01
    My TV hasn't worked for a long time, the iron is broadcasting about the transit of power. There is a serious struggle, victims, and luck, if only broken faces with the subsequent insertion of titanium plates to return the human appearance, albeit far from the original...
    Who dared to do this?
    They dared - while we are here discussing, gasping and groaning. Honest officers and civilians. Who will come? Scoundrels.
    I want to believe otherwise.
  14. +13
    3 February 2025 09: 20
    Quote: Per se.
    O.D. - "We" is the Russian real power. Big business is part of our technology.

    Deripaska is just a parsley appointed by foreign capitalists. It was only recently that they screwed him with Strabago, Magna and Russian aluminum. The kingmaker has been found.
    All Russian oligarchs live until the moment when they carry out orders from abroad from their real masters - they are penniless, upstarts, suckers. It is enough to remember Friedman who was robbed blind in Britain.
    Hence the conclusion that Russia and the Russian people can live without oligarchs, but the so-called Russian oligarchs cannot live without the Russian people.
    1. +7
      3 February 2025 09: 47
      Quote: Dozorny_ severa
      Hence the conclusion that Russia and the Russian people can live without oligarchs, but the so-called Russian oligarchs cannot live without the Russian people.

      And another, more harsh conclusion, I do not dare to voice, but it irritates me how the thief Chubais, who destroyed the energy sector, calmly left Russia. Maybe he is not connected with Putin in any way (like Rotenberg), but here is the funny thing:
      1. +1
        3 February 2025 19: 04
        Maybe he has nothing to do with Putin (like Rotenberg)

        In vain you think so... Do you know about such a sambo sports club called RVS? (Vyborg Side Guys)... Who trained there? Who was the coach? And the name Usvyatsov Leonid Ionovich does not mean anything to you? Then you should go to WIKI for information...
      2. +2
        4 February 2025 14: 17
        This is some kind of illogical logic, Judge for yourself, a person who receives tens of thousands of dollars from abroad to finance a public organization is a foreign agent - is it logical? Yes, it is logical. But what do you call a person who calmly takes billions of dollars to a country that supplies weapons to fight us. They are not limited in their rights, they are not limited in anything at all - they are our everything.
    2. +9
      3 February 2025 11: 40
      Quote: Dozorny_ severa
      Quote: Per se.
      O.D. - "We" is the Russian real power. Big business is part of our technology.



      Hence the conclusion that Russia and the Russian people can live without oligarchs, but the so-called Russian oligarchs cannot live without the Russian people.

      Hence the question. Why do the "Russian people" need this superstructure? The strength of traditions? wink
    3. +1
      3 February 2025 15: 23
      I don't notice any difference between Khodorkovsky and Deripaska. I'm ignorant.
  15. +13
    3 February 2025 09: 37
    The Russian president is probably to blame, as he does not speak enough about the need to educate young people in the right way. More precisely, Putin speaks more than clearly and a lot, but why none of those who are supposed to implement these plans bother themselves with thoughts on this matter – that is also a question. And clearly not for Putin.

    The country's huge problem today is precisely that the local executors are completely unwilling to think and take initiative. We are silent about responsibility; Her Majesty the Reply reigns in people's minds, which is the standard way to solve any problem. The main thing is to give an answer, even if you lie decently, and what happens next - that will happen later.

    Simply BRAVO!!! Questions not for the guarantor... Yeah. And to WHOM THEN? To this gray and wretched bureaucracy? Forgive me, excuse me, but WHO created this entire vertical system? Who turned a blind eye to the massive cheating during the elections? WHO pulled United Russia by all its limbs into an absolute majority in all branches of power? WHO is pulling the wool over our eyes from the very top, about a united impulse, bonds and sacred trust in our native government, and from the smallest fry, to the guarantor himself? Doesn't the author himself understand that they are ALL untouchable there, and precisely because they are FOR. And thinking is not welcome there. You just have to salute and obey. They don't need thinkers there. Otherwise, you never know what they might come up with. Only loyal ones are needed there.
    So I am absolutely sure that the top management already believes in its own lies, in its parallel reality. And it bubbles sweetly and rots in it. That is why we have everything we have. The fish rots from the head, and nothing else.
  16. +7
    3 February 2025 10: 09
    It will soon be three years since the beginning of the SVO.
    And then the fourth one will go... And the eternal questions, who is to blame and what to do...
    It's time to decide who is for whom.
    And those corrupt officials in the Russian Ministry of Defense, who are they for? And who? For example...
  17. +12
    3 February 2025 11: 40
    Quote: yuriy55
    Maybe he has nothing to do with Putin (like Rotenberg), but here's the funny thing:

    "The state is the dictatorship of the ruling class" (V.I. Lenin).
    And international capital rules in the Russian Federation, and Chubais' actions were in the interests of international capital - primarily GE and Siemens. And also the Finnish FORTUM - which wanted to install wind turbines in the Russian Federation for 2,8 trillion rubles.
  18. +10
    3 February 2025 11: 43
    Quote: Sovetskiy
    Quote: Dozorny_ severa
    Quote: Per se.
    O.D. - "We" is the Russian real power. Big business is part of our technology.

    Deripaska is just a parsley appointed by foreign capitalists. It was only recently that they screwed him with Strabago, Magna and Russian aluminum. The kingmaker has been found.
    All Russian oligarchs live until the moment when they carry out orders from abroad from their real masters - they are penniless, upstarts, suckers. It is enough to remember Friedman who was robbed blind in Britain.
    Hence the conclusion that Russia and the Russian people can live without oligarchs, but the so-called Russian oligarchs cannot live without the Russian people.

    Hence the question. Why do the "Russian people" need this superstructure? The strength of traditions? wink

    Capitalists, unlike the people, understand well the commonality of their economic interests and are ready to act in solidarity to protect them.
    And the people are fed all sorts of nonsense - some people get religion, some people get nationalism, some people get traditional values.
  19. +5
    3 February 2025 12: 12
    The Voronezh regional government is probably also the Voronezh government with ministers and prime ministers. There are simply too many officials and everyone demands a report. While you hand everything over, there is no time to work. Therefore, they write off, which is becoming a habit from the very bottom to the very top. The main thing is to report, and what is actually there is of secondary importance
  20. -6
    3 February 2025 13: 20
    There are few good mayors, but many cities. Why is there order in Moscow? There are many reasons, but one of the main ones is Sobyanin. And let's look at St. Petersburg - oops, especially in winter. The same with factories. In Voronezh, the aircraft factory survives, but in Irkutsk, for example, it works rhythmically. That's where we dance. If the leader is a dick or a corrupt official, then everything under him writhes and breaks.
    1. +5
      3 February 2025 15: 25
      Compare the budget of Voronezh and Moscow
      1. +3
        3 February 2025 20: 26
        Moscow's budget is around 3 trillion rubles.
        The budget of an ordinary city with a population of over a million is 30-50 billion rubles.
        The difference is colossal
    2. 0
      3 February 2025 15: 26
      You are completely wrong about the factories.
  21. +1
    3 February 2025 15: 03
    This is not the place to look for the scapegoat.
  22. +9
    3 February 2025 15: 11
    The children of those who decide where and how our children study do not study in ordinary Russian schools.
    1. +1
      4 February 2025 10: 43
      Just like those who work in state hospitals, they do not receive treatment.
  23. +2
    3 February 2025 16: 54
    Hype headline, 70%, if not more, of fluff. How do they even let articles like this through? The topic is certainly important, but here the article came out about the emotions of "what's going on, good people?!", and not the problem.
  24. +3
    3 February 2025 17: 01
    What, is this the first time? Remember how terrorists held children hostage at a school in Dagestan? Some of the children were rescued through a hole in the wall. So after that, the ministry sent an order to fence off the school grounds with a welded fence with gates
    electric locks and retired guards armed with a visitor's log. The locks have long since rotted away, and the children still have nowhere to run.
  25. +2
    3 February 2025 17: 04
    What can you do? Nothing.
    Everyone probably remembers the joke about Voronezh?
    Probably everything.
    And no one has heard the discontent of the Oligarchs and Kremlin VIPs that their children are driven into wet, unequipped basements during alarms?
  26. -1
    3 February 2025 22: 19
    Why write this here?
    Send them to the prosecutor's office. And not even to the Voronezh one - believe me, their brains will be taken out of that very organ and inserted where they need to be, up to the point of no return.
  27. 0
    3 February 2025 22: 58
    I will repeat, as I once said. Consciousness and responsibility are not human vices, but the merits of an individual.
  28. 0
    8 February 2025 19: 13
    So we have a problem with bomb shelters, it is a systemic pain and we must admit that there is no protection of the population in case of various emergency situations in the country, only on paper no one really imagines, for example, in schools and kindergartens what exactly to do except to dress and take the children out, and then what to do and where to run with the children. We have been seeing the same thing for a long time now with the security of schools and children's institutions. Does anyone seriously think that the private security guards on duty can really stop someone and prevent emergencies, name at least one case where a private security guard really detained someone and prevented something. We are all sitting on a powder keg, and the leadership pretends that everything is going according to plan, they just forgot to explain to their citizens what kind.
  29. 0
    8 February 2025 21: 47
    "If you criticize, make a suggestion; if you suggest, do it," said Grandpa Stalin. What can a school principal really do? - The basement is packed and it's not so much her fault. In my opinion, in case of an alarm, you can position yourself just behind the walls (there are about three meters between the windows), without going near the windows, that way you can minimize the danger. Then the order talks about safe windows (metal-plastic?), maybe there will be fewer fragments from them. And 5 kg of TNT equivalent is not that much, in any case, it's not "Hymers" (let's hope that air defense will really protect against them). And so, we must say thank you to the liberals, who have been telling us for decades that no one is threatening Russia, that we don't need an army, officers are parasites, and, in general, everyone loves us.
  30. 0
    Yesterday, 18: 20
    Where will the school principal get you a bomb shelter? Converting a school basement into one is a whole epic from coordinating with the ministry to receiving money, drafting a project, holding a competition for works and their acceptance. This is a year, at least, and the wise management demanded a bomb shelter "yesterday".