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FG-42 - three in one

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Weaponpossessing the properties of several samples at once, it was an old dream of both gunsmiths and the military. A vivid example of this can be Browning Machine Gun M2, which was used not only as a large-caliber machine gun, but also a sniper rifle. However, the example may not be the most successful, because at that time there was simply no weapon that could hit long-range targets with high accuracy, so they used everything that was at hand. In the same article we will try to make out a really interesting and to some extent universal weapon that appeared during World War II, though it appeared in the hands of the enemy, but this is not so important. This is a model of handguns named FG-42.


This sample, for some unknown reason, is attributed to automatic rifles or automatic rifles. And although the dimensions of the weapon really make it possible to call it that, but the ammunition that is used in it makes it possible to say with confidence that it is a light machine gun. The idea of ​​creating such weapons was born in the 1941 year, during Operation Mercury, during which the fascist troops were to seize the island of Crete. The main emphasis was then placed on the landing forces, however, the design of the parachutes was such that it was problematic to take with them something other than a light submachine gun with a limited supply of ammunition, and there was a risk of preventing the parachute from opening. Thus, the paratrooper landed practically unarmed, all the other weapons were dropped on a parachute separately and the calculation was that during 80 seconds after landing, everyone had to re-equip, which was very problematic, as not only had to land alive, and under enemy fire try to search for something. In general, the task was almost impossible, and the losses were very high.

Naturally, the losses were unacceptable, because it was necessary to change something. They approached the problem globally and not only did they decide to change the design of parachutes, they also decided to develop a new weapon for the paratroopers. That was how the specification for the new weapons was formed. The terms of reference included the following key points that were mandatory. So the main conditions were the use of the cartridge 7,92х57, the ability to conduct both automatic and single fire, while it was required that a single fire be fired from a closed bolt, to increase the accuracy of the weapon, and automatic from an open one. All this had to fit in compact dimensions and weight, so that the paratrooper could take this weapon with him. Such requirements, even by modern standards, are quite complex, and then they seemed to be impracticable at all, however, they coped with the task. A team of designers under the leadership of Louis Stange successfully did the impossible and already in April 1942, a new model of weapons was presented for testing. This sample had the designation C. According to the plan, this sample was to go into mass production immediately after the tests, which ended in June 1942, but the tests were carried out by the Luftwaffe, because another weapon tests were assigned, during which a lot of shortcomings were already identified . For what additional tests were carried out is unknown, but it can be assumed that it could not have done without outside help, since the weapon could give a significant superiority in the battle of the German army, and even before the infantry the options were within reach. So there were options for weapons E and F, however, these samples have never been mass-produced. As proof that the permanent failures of mass production of weapons were not accidental, it is possible to mention the fact that in 1943 year, and more specifically 12 of May, this weapon was used for the first time quite successfully, and the weapon was with the letter D in the name. So this weapon was obtained, roughly speaking, from under the floor in the amount of 50 pieces and proved to be excellent in battle with the British. After such a success, it was decided to immediately send the weapon into mass production, however, production was established only in August 1944 of the year, as a result, a sample appeared with the letter G in the name.

At this time, the design of the weapon really underwent a proper processing with a reasonable approach. First of all, the shutter of the weapon was used to reduce the rate of fire from 900 to 700 shots per minute. Changed the angle of the handle of the weapon, which until then had been convenient for holding the weapon when it was worn and when firing “from the belt”, but not for accurate fire. The trigger mechanism has become completely removable and interchangeable between the arms. Fire translator switches and fuses are separate controls. Well, a lot of changes, the main purpose of which was to reduce recoil when firing, after all, the cartridge used in the device was not for children. So one of such changes was the muzzle brake-compensator of recoil, its gaps were directed upwards, therefore it was necessary to make aiming devices higher so that the shooter is not just blind. Provided that the weapon required minimum dimensions and a minimum of protruding parts, the open sights were made folding. In addition, the weapon could be equipped with light bipods and a telescopic sight, as a result of which, in terms of combat effectiveness, the device approached sniper rifles, naturally did not reach out and could not fully replace, but with a bezrybe ...

Automatic weapons built according to the scheme with the removal of powder gases from the barrel with a long piston stroke. The barrel is locked when the bolt is turned to two lugs. The weapon used a lot of solutions aimed at reducing recoil when shooting, but the most interesting, in my opinion, is the design of the chamber, thanks to which the recoil is also reduced when shooting. The fact is that a metal was chosen near the neck of the cartridge case in the chamber, as a result of which the cartridge “unfastened” when fired, trying to take the form of the chamber. Thus, the sleeve becomes much more difficult to remove, thereby reducing the speed of movement of the moving parts of automation. Cheap, original, effective.

The final weapon had a total length of 1060 millimeters. The length of the barrel is 525 millimeters, the weight of the weapon is slightly more than 5 kilogram. It feeds weapons from detachable box stores with a capacity of 10 and 20 cartridges, although it is said that there were stores with a capacity of 60 cartridges, but landing with them in the weapon was difficult.

This weapon was produced in very small quantities due to the defeat of Germany. The first versions of weapons in total were released in the amount of about 2000 weapons, while the final version was released in the amount of 5000. After the victory, few people were interested in this weapon, as well as the general concept of everything in one, all forces were concentrated on the creation of the machine gun, but it is not difficult to notice the common features of the FG-42 and the American M60 machine gun. In itself, the idea of ​​creating a weapon that would combine the properties of several classes does not seem to me to be very good - well, it is impossible to make everything perfect and that the result could replace other samples of different purposes. Nevertheless, provided that it would be necessary to parachute from the air with the weapon and immediately join the battle, such a sample is simply necessary, of course, provided that nobody heard about the intermediate cartridge and machine gun. In general, after World War II, few people became interested in weapons and it was abandoned. Abandoned, but not forgotten.

Most recently, in Texas, the arms company SMG Guns decided to revive this type of weapon, but only for the civilian market, that is, the possibility of automatic fire can not be expected. The weapon completely repeats the last sample of the weapon and even feeds on the same 7,92x57 cartridges. The weapon is naturally made completely from scratch, because some differences from the original are inevitable. Representatives of the company are positioning this model, first of all, as a weapon for the collection, understanding that the practical use of such weapons is not the best, and it cannot compete with modern samples. In general, the apparatus was revived, at least in part, and the opportunity arose to “touch” it at least in this form, but I want to do it very well.
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  1. Nayhas
    Nayhas 26 March 2013 08: 38
    +3
    It is not entirely clear why the FG-42 was designed for such a powerful cartridge as 7,92x57, because it was already 7,92 × 33, which would allow to obtain better characteristics with a lower weight of 5 kg. for the paratrooper, this is a lot ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 March 2013 08: 52
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      It is not entirely clear why the FG-42 was designed for such a powerful cartridge as 7,92x57, because it was already 7,92 × 33, which would allow to obtain better characteristics with a lower weight of 5 kg. for the paratrooper, this is a lot ...

      This question also arose, the ammunition is too powerful. In addition, a magazine with 10 rounds, a machine-gun cartridge, and an automatic rifle are lighter, simpler and more reliable. Although article +, the device is interesting.
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 26 March 2013 09: 30
      +6
      Quote: Nayhas
      It is not entirely clear why the FG-42 was designed for such a powerful cartridge as 7,92x57, because it was already 7,92 × 33 ...

      The device was created under the personal patronage of Goering, and with the opposition of the Wehrmacht Arms Office.
      Intercorporate graters :)) It can be considered that the Air Force Department issued the TTZ for development and it was implementing the project.
      By the way, a 30 mm screw-on granotometre was specially designed for the rifle, for firing of HE and cumulative ammunition.

      A gang of dirty killers Skorzeny.
      On the chest you can see the placement of wearable BC in 8 stores of 20 rounds.
      Italy, it seems, September 1943
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 26 March 2013 16: 23
        +3
        Skorzeny is an enemy, but defeating such enemies can lead to multiple pride.
        1. avt
          avt 26 March 2013 17: 14
          +2
          Quote: fzr1000
          Skorzeny is an enemy, but defeating such enemies can lead to multiple pride.

          I guess, yes . But here the student will be more glorious. He fed them and trained them.
    3. Mikhado
      Mikhado 26 March 2013 12: 38
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      It is not entirely clear why the FG-42 was designed for such a powerful cartridge as 7,92x57, because it was already 7,92 × 33, which would allow to obtain better characteristics with a lower weight of 5 kg. for the paratrooper, this is a lot ...

      Still, the Kurtz cartridge was low-power, it is weaker than our intermediate. The Germans, as always, wanted to make uberbaflu, to overcome the laws of physics with the help of the Aryan genius. laughing
      Although, if you do not take the bursts of fire, like compact self-loading, it’s not bad, but, I think, due to the short length and the DT, it hit my ears off-hand.
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 26 March 2013 12: 50
        +2
        The FG-42 has an aiming range of 1200 m, therefore the rifle cartridge.
        1. Castor oil
          Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 16
          +3
          Quote: Volkhov
          The FG-42 has an aiming range of 1200 m, therefore the rifle cartridge.

          Causal ... Cartridge rifle, so and rifle range kilometer wink
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 26 March 2013 18: 05
            +3
            The range was laid down in the TK, so that "the egg was before the chicken."
            1. Castor oil
              Castor oil 27 March 2013 04: 13
              0
              Quote: Volkhov
              The range was laid down in the TK, so that "the egg was before the chicken."

              Agree smile
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 March 2013 13: 52
        0
        Quote: Mikhado
        Although, if you do not take the bursts of fire, as a compact self-loading is not bad,

        Nifiga yourself compact self-loading more than 5kg! M1 Garand - 4,3 kg, CBT - 3,8 kg. That’s the question of how a machine gun is a small store, especially if they shoot solo, like a self-loading rifle - a heavy, slow apparatus. The same M1 with a powerful ammunition .30-06 Spr lighter almost a kilo.
        1. Mikhado
          Mikhado 26 March 2013 15: 42
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Mikhado
          Although, if you do not take the bursts of fire, as a compact self-loading is not bad,

          Nifiga yourself compact self-loading more than 5kg! M1 Garand - 4,3 kg, CBT - 3,8 kg. That’s the question of how a machine gun is a small store, especially if they shoot solo, like a self-loading rifle - a heavy, slow apparatus. The same M1 with a powerful ammunition .30-06 Spr lighter almost a kilo.

          I mean length. And the mass is just for at least some stability when firing in bursts.
          For example, a BAR - similar in function - weighed 8kg and was clearly longer.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 26 March 2013 16: 37
            0
            Quote: Mikhado
            I mean length. And the mass is just for at least some stability when firing in bursts.
            For example, a BAR - similar in function - weighed 8kg and was clearly longer.

            Yes, this is understandable, but the FG-42 was created as a weapon for the landing troops, and not purely as an infantry.
            1. Castor oil
              Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 37
              +5
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Yes, this is understandable, but the FG-42 was created as a weapon for the landing troops, and not purely as an infantry

              The terms of reference were very absurd and contradictory: "... representatives of the airborne units put forward the following requirements for the new weapon: no more than 100 mm long; weight no higher than that of a 98k carbine; the ability to fire both single shots and bursts; the possibility of installing an optical sight ; the possibility of firing rifle grenades; the possibility of using as a cold weapon. Such a rifle could replace several types of weapons at once - a submachine gun, a rifle and a machine gun. Schulze from the very beginning explained to customers that the Wehrmacht Arms Department is responsible for the development of infantry small arms. after the paratroopers passed their request there, the management rejected their demands as impracticable. One of the reasons for this decision was also the rivalry between the army and aviation. Then they again turned to Schulze, who, together with one of his colleagues, promised to develop such a weapon .. "
              therefore, Shtang had to create a karkalyga, uniform in all forms: - “A hand fitting with a pistol grip, a submachine gun, a rifle and a machine gun are combined in one weapon, and the weight of the sample is equal to the weight of the 98k rifle”
        2. Castor oil
          Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 25
          +2
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Nifiga yourself compact self-loading more than 5kg! M1 Garand - 4,3kg, CBT - 3,8kg.

          The Fauchists understood this, so they willingly "rearmed" on the SVT ...
          1. Azzzwer
            Azzzwer 26 March 2013 19: 12
            +1
            Quote: Castor_ka
            The Fauchists understood this, so they willingly "rearmed" on the SVT ...

            test word for the correct spelling of the word fascists, there is the word fascin wink
            in general, this is a foreign word and the rules for writing it are subject to memorization
            How much do you have on EG?
            I apologize, for the verification it would be possible to use the name of Marshal Foch, but then these u..dki should be French !!!
            1. Castor oil
              Castor oil 27 March 2013 04: 19
              0
              Quote: Azzzwer
              How many you on EG?

              We, with You , baby, grandchildren did not baptize together, therefore be more respectful wink to strangers - such a position in life will protect from all sorts of misunderstandings, as you grow up bully
          2. datur
            datur 26 March 2013 23: 14
            +2
            The Foshists understood this, so they willingly "re-armed" on the SVT ... [/ quote] it was more correct to write-Nazis !! yes ! fascists were still -Italians !!!! laughing
          3. kaprall
            kaprall 27 March 2013 20: 43
            0
            They armed themselves with them because there was no self-loading yet.
            The FG-42 was created specifically for landing, a self-loading rifle with the ability to conduct automatic fire, which is very important for the density of fire relative to small groups, plus the propeller.patron, a long direct shot range and lethality. Of course, the quality of the device let him down, but there are no problems to hardened people. In addition, ammunition planted on a schedule.
            1. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 31 March 2013 09: 14
              0
              There were. Since the late 20s, about two dozen different systems have been created in Germany. But the general complexity of the task of creating such weapons and, in particular, the marasmic requirements of the arms department (such as the ban on the removal of powder gases from the barrel, the requirements for managing weapons like a magazine rifle, etc.), and the general underestimation of the capabilities of such weapons did not allow Germans create a sane model. After the attack on the USSR, the Wehrmacht encountered the Red Army, the rifle units of which were armed with SVT in large quantities. In September, a decision was made to transfer the Mauser and Walther self-loading rifles to the Wehrmacht. But both of them turned out to be absolutely unsuitable for combat work.
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 26 March 2013 14: 39
      +1
      Not yet then this cartridge. They did what they did, if it weren’t for agents of influence, then our grandfathers would have had two hard times.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 March 2013 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Not yet then this cartridge.

        So, what is it?
        1. bazilio
          bazilio 26 March 2013 16: 15
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Not yet then this cartridge.

          If you have more in view of the Kurtz cartridge, then it appeared already in 1940.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 26 March 2013 16: 32
            +1
            Quote: bazilio
            If you have more in view of the Kurtz cartridge, then it appeared already in 1940.

            belay Did you see whom I quoted? I do not mean anything, I also want to find out which cartridge was not then?
            1. bazilio
              bazilio 26 March 2013 19: 50
              0
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Did you see whom I quoted?

              Yes, I’ve seen, I ask for groves. Along the way, this is some kind of glitch, for the second time today, the unquoted commentator is displayed in the quote, but the last one, you see, your nickname in the quote, but not your words))). I will now quote in the old fashioned manner with copy-paste.
          2. kaprall
            kaprall 27 March 2013 20: 44
            0
            yes he appeared in 40, but the weapon was ordered in 42
      2. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 31 March 2013 09: 20
        0
        Already been and quite a long time. The Germans began to experiment with intermediate cartridges in the late 20s
    5. carbofo
      carbofo 27 March 2013 01: 39
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      after all, there was already 7,92 × 33, which would make it possible to obtain better characteristics with a lower mass, 5 kg. for the paratrooper, this is a lot ...


      What was needed was a rifle with the possibility of automatic shooting, compact enough for landing, and powerful enough for long-range combat.
      automatic mode is needed for fire density or sweeps of buildings.
      In general, it turned out pretty interesting.
      There is no modern analogue, if only m4, it seems the same rifle cartridge.
      And by the way, the bullet of the cartridge 7.62x57, like 7.62x54, pierces almost a meter of brick, which cannot be said about the cartridge with a 33mm sleeve
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 25 June 2013 21: 24
        0
        Почему нет?
        It was...
        I was armed with an AK chambered for 7,62x54.
        Recoil is atrocious. Direct Shot Range 600m.
        In our part, the armory was generally a Kunstkamera.
        Even Maxim 7,92x57 was.
        And the PKK and RPD under under 7,62x54 were. At the PKK, I was listed as the second number.
        There was one plus - for six months I ran to the callus. Both from AK and RPK. Because the cartridges had a shelf life.
        After the last zinc was shot, they handed over the entire Kunstkamera for disposal - there were no more such cartridges.
        Instead, our company (one of the entire part was armed) was armed with AKSU-74 5,45.
        And after another six months, along with the relocation, the arms were eliminated altogether.
  2. avt
    avt 26 March 2013 09: 06
    +5
    A cool unit, a very interesting solution for the dimensions with such a powerful cartridge, slightly spoils the appearance of the store from the side, and it’s not very convenient to use. And it looks like something that you want to pick up. It’s a pity the author didn’t show which bayonet they had attached to him. laughing . Against the background of the design of weapons, well, pure mockery. Like at the last moment they did that would be behind.
    1. Mikhado
      Mikhado 26 March 2013 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: avt
      A cool unit, a very interesting solution for the dimensions with such a powerful cartridge, slightly spoils the appearance of the store from the side, and it’s not very convenient to use. And it looks like something that you want to pick up. It’s a pity the author didn’t show which bayonet they had attached to him. laughing . Against the background of the design of weapons, well, pure mockery. Like at the last moment they did that would be behind.

      You are mistaken - photo two, sticks out from under the bipod.
      1. avt
        avt 26 March 2013 15: 22
        +1
        Quote: Mikhado
        You are mistaken - photo two, sticks out from under the bipod.

        Yes, I saw, it’s better to show close-up here. Cool bayonet.
        1. Castor oil
          Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 41
          +2
          Quote: avt
          better close-up

          So-so big of course, but ...
          1. Castor oil
            Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 52
            +1
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            Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 53
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              Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 55
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            Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 53
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          4. avt
            avt 26 March 2013 18: 58
            +2
            Quote: Castor_ka
            So-so big of course, but ...

            good In in laughing This awl really pins me laughing Well, exactly, when they made a barrel to the question, Where is the bayonet? "They attached this crap and said," Here you go, just leave me alone. "
            1. Castor oil
              Castor oil 27 March 2013 08: 25
              +1
              Quote: avt
              They attached this crap and said, "Here you go, just leave me alone."

              It seems that it was, but ****, but they did it in German pedantically, with fiction, on a bayonet.
  3. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 26 March 2013 10: 22
    +4
    The main problem of systems with a side-mounted magazine is the imbalance (increase in "blockage" to the side) as the magazine is emptied. What's STEN, what's MP-18, what's FG-42 ...
    1. kaprall
      kaprall 27 March 2013 20: 48
      0
      These systems cannot be compared due to different characteristics, moreover, when firing a single fire, this error is negligible.
  4. bazilio
    bazilio 26 March 2013 10: 28
    +6
    Thanks to the author for this article !!!
    This rifle, as far as I remember, was nicknamed the Beater.
    The sample is very interesting, and as for me, in its beautiful way, it’s a kind of semi-bullpup.
    Like the comrades who commented earlier, the question arose about the cartridge - a very powerful cartridge. Although there are many nuances.
    I wonder what was the accuracy of this instance?
    How were matters with the reliability of work, given that the "descendant" of Fg42, the American M60 machine gun was not particularly reliable.
    It seems that when firing from FG42 in most cases, they tried to use single fire. It doesn’t seem to be very effective to shoot with an automatic rifle, even from bipods;
    I think that with FG42 a comparison with Sveta (SVT-40) is acceptable.
    Z.Y. I like this trunk
    1. Peacemaker
      Peacemaker 26 March 2013 12: 31
      +3
      Rather, the closest analogue of the ABC-36.
      And so quite good for its time self-loading with the ability, in which case to shoot in bursts.
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 26 March 2013 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: PeaceMaker
        Rather, the closest analogue of the ABC-36.

        Yes, I also thought about ABC, but ABC in WWII was not enough, but CBT was much larger, therefore I wrote about Sveta
        1. Ch0sen1
          Ch0sen1 26 March 2013 16: 44
          +3
          Well, the FG-42 also did not shine in quantity, although in the absence of its normal self-loading the Germans could easily use this unit not only to paratroopers but also to the Wehrmacht.
          And about analogues, the Johnson M1941 light machine gun is closest in terms of parameters.
          1. bazilio
            bazilio 26 March 2013 17: 13
            +1
            Quote: Ch0sen1
            And about analogues, the Johnson M1941 light machine gun is closest in terms of parameters

            I agree. I was just thinking about analogs in CA. And Johnson can safely be called a direct analogue. Also, by the way, an interesting sample.
  5. bright
    bright 26 March 2013 12: 28
    +5
    The idea is super. And the fact that they were able to implement well. But it’s even better that they were made little and did not influence the course of the war.
  6. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 26 March 2013 13: 27
    +5
    An excellent weapon, of course, there are some shortcomings, but still FG42 met its requirements.
    1. Castor oil
      Castor oil 26 March 2013 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Tan4ik
      An excellent weapon, of course, there are some shortcomings, but still FG42 met its requirements.

      Don't be ridiculous, this "sample" just sucks, especially against the background of really excellent examples of the German riflemen of the WWII
      1. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior 26 March 2013 21: 32
        +1
        Castor oil, someone slammed you minus, I compensated him laughing
        because I agree. ... In my subjective opinion, this is a "plug", i.e. good "here and now" but generally nonsense. It's just that the Germans have a lot of such "plugs".
        In 41, they saw a PPSh with a disc for 71 rounds at the Russians - they asked their gunsmiths for something the same. Received a typical "plug" -MP.40-I with two magazines for 32 on a "sled" laughing
        We saw STEn from the British - they asked for something similar ... We got a "plug" - the same STEn, only with a store below laughing
        There are still examples, if I bring you interesting, but IMHO and these are enough for now wink
        1. Castor oil
          Castor oil 27 March 2013 04: 29
          0
          Quote: Landwarrior
          Kastor_ka, someone slammed you here, I compensated him laughing
          because I agree.

          Yes, the Lord is with them, let them take a minute))) - but, anyway - Thank you drinks
          And so on the topic, yes, the Germans did not, in principle, in those years, self-loading under a rifle cartridge, whoever didn’t take it — the designs were original to the curiosities, but they didn’t work fully army tenacious. smile
          1. kaprall
            kaprall 27 March 2013 20: 51
            0
            Garand was a very good rifle of its time with a very strong cartridge .30-06
  7. kamakim
    kamakim 26 March 2013 14: 49
    0
    an amusing weapon, I would love to experience it ... interestingly, there are airsoft options?
  8. Avenger711
    Avenger711 26 March 2013 14: 54
    +1
    And it also appeared in Wolfenstein Return To Castle.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 26 March 2013 16: 18
      0
      And in the first Call of duty))) There she was with optics
  9. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 26 March 2013 16: 15
    +3
    Even if this "hybrid" is not very good in life, for that in the Call of Duty series of games about the Great Patriotic War this weapon is just a gift from the gods smile
  10. Castor oil
    Castor oil 26 March 2013 18: 17
    0
    Cyril, you, as always, plus - you know how to choose more interesting samples good
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 26 March 2013 21: 25
      +1
      I join the previous speaker yes Thanks to the author! drinks good
  11. igordok
    igordok 26 March 2013 21: 25
    0
    A little off topic. What a trophy the Red Army man has. I don’t know the time and place of shooting. A quick glance mistook him for FG.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 26 March 2013 22: 10
      +7
      Quote: igordok
      What a trophy the Red Army man has.


      The fighter holds the Type 11 Japanese machine gun in his hand, the second soldier laid out the papers on the Type 03 / Type 92 Japanese machine gun. The rifles allegedly Arisaka are piled up in the same place. The fighters have buttonholes on the lapels, which means the uniform until 1943, when the shoulder straps were returned. Therefore, the soldiers of the Red Army until 1943 with Japanese captured weapons - Khalkhin-gol, 1939.

      Close-up photo Type 11
      1. igordok
        igordok 26 March 2013 23: 45
        0
        Thank. .........
        1. bazilio
          bazilio 27 March 2013 16: 21
          0
          please glad to help
  12. _KM_
    _KM_ April 16 2013 13: 02
    0
    The weapon was created under a powerful cartridge, because it was created for paratroopers and had to replace a rifle, and PP, and a light machine gun. In addition, it was believed that it would be easier to equip the paratroopers with standard cartridges than new intermediate ones.
  13. SAFON 1
    SAFON 1 16 September 2013 07: 26
    0
    Weapons of real designers for real men. To collect conflicting tasks in one weapon and to design them into a beautiful model, so that even after many years I would take envy and want to take it in my hands, is of course a huge plus for the designers. Fortunately for the whole world, this option appeared too late and in a small party. The bullet from the FG42 leaves no hope for the wounded, the ability to install optics increases the chances of victory in a rifle clash. And if a bullet from the PPSh could not stop the enemy, then a hit from FG42, guaranteed to remove a person from the battle.