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Third World War begins in Cyprus: Russia is thrown into the embrasure of the global crisis

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On Monday, everything can start from the Balkans again. The official announcement that the Russian money will be taken away and divided equally with Sarajevo shots in 1914. Cyprus, all the same, obediently agreed with its creditors - the IMF, the ECB and the European Commission - and will pay tribute to the private capital of their investors. They will take away as much: a one-time emergency fee is set at 20% from deposits over 100 thousand euros in Bank of Cyprus, which is the largest bank in the country and a favorite bank of Russians. The remaining banks will remove the tax size 4%. Sheer trifle. Things are easy - by pressing the trigger of the pistol, already directed towards the archduke of today, Russian capital. Today, no longer need to shoot at royal persons, it is enough to deaden the capital of the enemy.


Third World War begins in Cyprus: Russia is thrown into the embrasure of the global crisis


Literally two days before Cyprus declared a “state of emergency”, an acquaintance of a metropolitan journalist called me and asked me to comment on the development of the situation in Georgia, they say, why the Americans gave up Saakashvili so easily and that from Russia. I have long been used to not being surprised at the naivety of the questions asked to me, as well as the incompetence of the asked journalists.

After all, the answer is obvious and lies on the surface: the Americans, having allowed to build sovereign democracy and strengthen the Turks, left the Caucasus, leaving Putin to deal with Erdogan. Turkey has very serious interests in Georgia and in the Caucasus and is not interested in it for the time being; it will be the head of Saakashvili or Ivanishvili there. Therefore, I would not call the victory of the pro-Russian forces in the Georgian elections a strategic victory of the Kremlin - so-so, a reason for bitter sweet drinking and nothing more.

After all, in fact, Americans are not interested in either Georgian or any other democracy in the world. America is interested in protecting its strategic interests. Americans are interested in the future. All that Washington is concerned about today is the way Moscow will behave in relation to Beijing and who will join their union. The Stalinist legacy - China and the Russian Federation - that's all that stands in the way of the United States to absolute, unlimited world domination.

After all, exactly how the Kremlin will behave on the eve of the next imperialist get-together, to put it in the words of the Marxists, will become that wing of the butterfly wing, which will decide the fate of the world. Therefore, to expect provocations and serious moves should be from this side: Russia at any cost will be forced to reveal the cards and clearly state their position. After all, as everyone knows, whether Russians want wars is a rhetorical question.

And then the thunder struck from this side: the loyal to the Russians and not only the left-liberal government of Cyprus announced that it would pay tribute to the money of its depositors at the request of Germany. Cypriots will scrape $ 6 billion in the bins of their banks, will receive another $ 10 billion and no one will exclude them from the Eurozone. It is well known to all that Cyprus has traditionally been an offshore patrimony of the Russian financial sector for almost half a century now. Yes, not only Russians keep money on the island, but also Europeans themselves and other interesting personalities and structures. But after all, nobody officially considers Russia Europe. We have with Europe, as they say, nothing personal, just a business - for years 500.

At the same time, the Germans expressly prohibited the Cypriots to turn to the Russians for help - only international creditors have the right to transfer money from one pocket to another, often confusing their pockets with strangers. I will try to explain this point in more detail.

When Cyprus will select the money of its depositors and receive additional financing and extension of guarantees from the European Union, Russia will suffer only. Yes, it was Russia and its people, not just the rich Russian, as it is trying to submit, rubbing and licking knobs, frondiruyuschie liberal scribblers. That part of the money, which is a European, will not disappear from Europe, just spill over to the exposed portion of the financial front. But the money that belongs to Russian simply be brazenly taken away and divided.

A man in the street will say: “Isn’t it that for me that some oligarch will be exiled to a hundred or two million? All the same, because the money stolen from the working people, so this makes me neither cold nor hot! ”You are mistaken, dear. After all, you must understand that money - they are neither taken away from anyone nor go anywhere, they are simply redistributed depending on the situation.

When at the end 80-x we have lost the Cold War the West, then suffered from losing all the bitterness of defeat: we robbed, killed and raped, often corrupt hands of our own monsters. In the public mind, they are known as gangsters, corrupt officials and authorities. We paid reparations selling trains and tankers for pennies strategic resources and surrendering their industries and markets. We lost half of its territory and population, as well as the right to an efficient army. And they play by the rules of the winner. Better or worse poorly, but the game is still going on.

The fact that in the mass consciousness is called the “Russian mafia” and “oligarchs” is, in fact, an instrument of Russian politics in the conditions after 1991. Not every country, not every nation is allowed to have its own ethnic "mafia", not every country is capable of owning such technology. Therefore, by taking money from the Russian oligarchs, the West deadens the capital of the Russian state, expropriating the added value and working capital.

Again focuses attention on this: Russian money are present in the business sector in Europe is very noticeable. After the collapse of the USSR, many from the former Soviet republics have invested in European business, ranging from the purchase of gas stations, hotels and restaurants, ending participation in the share capital of the largest TNCs in Europe and the entry on the stock markets. But the fact is that if the money of our European partners will simply perekladeny from one pocket to another, the money from the Russian pocket will simply removed and divided by our own European partners.

I will give a simple example from life. Imagine, dear reader, that you and your family — wife, children, mistresses, servants, and other people dependent on you — live on the rent that you receive from your own capital. And here, someone suddenly comes from the side and takes away from you the entire annual rent. Your capitals are dead because they do not work.

And if you are remembering the life of a bachelor, you can stretch out for a while on the fried eggs and bread crust, then your family will not understand that the wife is vital new coat and it does not interest you if you have money or not. Children can not year not to go to school, the mistress simply go to another, servants raise a rebellion against you and the dentist will not treat any of your or your household teeth for pleasure.

You can, of course, in case of extreme necessity, lay down or eat away your fixed capital, but it will be a devouring: in the future your position will worsen even more, and in the modern world it is like death. You either go ahead, or fall into the abyss - capital cannot wait for a favorable tomorrow, it must either abyss, or work today. Here and now.

So it is: taking away the added value of Russian money in Cyprus, Germany strikes at the social system of Russia and directly destabilizes the political situation, which is almost equivalent to declaring war. After all, huge masses of people will suffer who are nourished by what God sends - in this case, the oligarch cartridge - and have no reserves for a rainy day, that notorious crust of bread and eggs. Such is the nature of social order with property inequality.

That is why Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev doesn’t say anything when he says that the money of Russian state structures are blocked in Cyprus, and Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is forced to defend himself on an emergency basis, ordering the withdrawal of Russian money from foreign banks. Today there is an open, without a declaration of war, an attack on Russia.

Political analysts who are quick to the hand will say that nothing of the kind: the ruling elite of Germany is simply trying to appease its voter, trying to solve European problems not at the expense of the German taxpayer, but at the expense of the “Russian mafia”, which is fattening and scattering loans left and right while everyone in the Eurozone the second young man is unemployed, and any merchant barely makes ends meet. There is some truth in this.

But tell me, dear scholars, and what's the difference today between the German Social Democrats and the German Christian Democrats? I personally do not see any difference. As seen on Lenin Zimmerwald Conference 1915 years difference between frank and European nationalists voted for military spending Social Democrats, led by Kautsky. Therefore, the domestic political agenda in Germany, it is only a detail, but not common.

On Monday, everything can start from the Balkans again. The official announcement that the Russian money will be taken away and divided equally with Sarajevo shots in 1914. Cyprus, all the same, obediently agreed with its creditors - the IMF, the ECB and the European Commission - and will pay tribute to the private capital of their investors. They will take away as much: a one-time emergency fee is set at 20% from deposits over 100 thousand euros in Bank of Cyprus, which is the largest bank in the country and a favorite bank of Russians. The remaining banks will remove the tax size 4%. Sheer trifle. Things are easy - by pressing the trigger of the pistol, already directed towards the archduke of today, Russian capital. Today, no longer need to shoot at royal persons, it is enough to deaden the capital of the enemy.

Shot himself in despair only Boris Berezovsky in his London disgrace, realizing that all my life playing against Russia, although always fought, according to a person dying confession, preparing to commit suicide by his mortal enemy, the Russian president Putin that acts in its interests. Time rasbrasyvat stones and a time to gather stones.

Recall the gentle conversation between Nicolas regal Russian and German Willy on the eve of the First World. Does not look like it's a friendly pat each other on the shoulder cronies Volodya and Angels? What 21 2013 March, Rosneft, TNK-BP bought does not look like any mass exodus of the German capital of the Russian Empire in 1913-1914? Should not expect to escape from the Renault-Nissan Togliatti in this case? After all, the Kremlin has advised its citizens to take money out of European banks, of course, if they're still there.

Most likely, 25 March 2013 year will be the beginning of World War III. For America, this war will be on screens of monitors UAV operators, but in Eurasia, it is the traditional meat grinder. After all, Russia and China there is nothing that is able to penetrate the American missile defense system, and the time they have on the strategic deployment of either, whatever she agreed Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Xi Jinping. New Stalinist industrialization Zauralye and Siberia, as during World War II, even with the help of the Chinese, will be gone. No matter how much oil, gas, and money into it is not pumped.

The reality of the traditional “hot war” is higher than ever, despite the assurances of analysts about a new type of war led by hired high-tech professionals. Russians are nothing but tanks, Airborne and multiple launch rocket systems can not put on the theater of operations. And the Americans have missile defense, do not forget about it. And the front, most likely, will go through the very same territories as it did during previous world wars - in the underbelly of Russia, along the territories of the European part of Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic states and the Caucasus.

Yes, there is still a strategic nuclear weapon, which America is not exactly bury, but which can afford to leave, loudly slamming the door. But is there any point in thinking about whether there will be life on planet Earth after the use of a nuclear arsenal? On this I propose to put an end.
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  1. esaul
    esaul 25 March 2013 08: 11 New
    35
    Everyone - salute hi
    In general, the Cypriot financial cauldron exposed a lot of pitfalls.
    1. Russia is still NOT perceived by European integrators as a full-fledged partner, despite the white-toothed smiles of European bureaucrats.
    2. The European leaders are still, without shame and conscience, ready to rob anyone to support themselves - their loved ones, and at the same time, they are habitually enveloped in beautiful words in the full conviction that they are so cunning and wise that no one will notice their meanness.
    This is short.
    Conclusion - it’s not with them to twist shafts and abide by the TRUE gentleman's rules. To observe - only externally, and to do - as it is necessary and beneficial for ourselves.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 16 New
      19
      Quote: esaul
      2. The European leaders are still without shame and conscience ready to rob anyone to support themselves - loved ones

      But FIG YOU !!! Times change hi

      Surprisingly, the most important news of today deserved only two paragraphs on Reuters and were ignored by the rest of the media. The statement appeared on the website of the People's Bank of China at night.

      Reuters provided a simple translation and a summary of this statement: “China hopes to enable all exporters and importers to make payments for international transactions in RMB by the end of the year, the Central Bank said Wednesday as part of a planned strengthening of the international role of the currency. In a statement on its website www.pbc.gov.cn, the Central Bank promised to respond to international demand for the yuan as a reserve currency. He also added that he would facilitate the flow of capital back to China. ”


      More on Military Materials.
      1. esaul
        esaul 25 March 2013 08: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: esaul
        The European leaders are still without shame and conscience ready to rob anyone to support themselves - loved ones

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        China hopes to enable all exporters and importers to make payments for international transactions in RMB by the end of the year, the Central Bank said

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But FIG YOU !!! Times change


        Sasha, figs - to whom? To me? Or Europeans? If the first option, then I join.
        But! From the declarations of a Chinese bank, the appetite of European bankers does not diminish.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 39 New
          12
          Quote: esaul
          Or Europeans?

          In this case, the Europeans and the United States. China plans to completely abandon the dollar before the end of the year. If this is confirmed then ............... hello Bernanke, Obama, Merkel and all the rest hi
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 25 March 2013 09: 42 New
        14
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        “China hopes to enable all exporters and importers to make settlements for international transactions in RMB by the end of the year,”

        But Wang said that the dollar will fall, and the world will have one international red currency. Yuan - red. So China will still show Kuzkin the mother of Europe and the USA.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 11 New
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          Quote: Egoza

          But Wang said that the dollar will fall, and the world will have one international red currency. Yuan - red.

          I don’t know, our money is not green either wink
          1. Azzzwer
            Azzzwer 25 March 2013 22: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            our money is also not green
            but the greens still shows up .... wink
        2. Apollo
          25 March 2013 10: 17 New
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          China will still show Kuzkin the mother of Europe and the United States.


          Bravo Elena !!! good
          When a woman puts it that way. Cuts the rumor. IMHO
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 11: 47 New
          +9
          Forgot about the real economic component of this situation -
          Following the depreciation of the dollar, the Russian ruble will collapse in the wake (see the Central Bank's currency basket).
          And since the shelves of our stores on 50-70% are filled with imported goods, we will go to the store like a museum - as it was in the middle of the 90's.
          And the RMB exchange rate against the ruble will jump no less than the dollar jumped in August 1998.
          What am I talking about.
          Post patriotic slogans - GOOD.
          And what will we eat? love
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 12: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            the shelves of our stores on 50-70% are littered with imported goods, we will go to the store like to a museum

            Well this is unlikely. Almost all products in our stores are domestic production, only with imported labels. So there will be no disaster. With technology the same, either ours or Chinese! In order for there to be no currency catastrophe, you need to urgently tie the ruble exchange rate, for example, to a barrel of oil, and untie it from the share and the euro! Then the ruble-yuan exchange rate will be stable and predictable!
            And withdraw, withdraw and withdraw money from foreign countries! Desirable gold and other real assets !!!!!
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 12: 34 New
              +6
              Thanks for the comment!
              I would be glad if everything was as you prescribed.
              And I hope that these Euro-Chinese financial games will not affect us too negatively.
              1. common man
                common man 25 March 2013 16: 11 New
                +2
                There is a definite plus in that Russia exports oil and gas. I will explain the thought. Oil and gas are for industry the same as bread and meat for humans. You cannot live without them. You can get by without a laptop, not buy new equipment for the plant for some time. A suit with an old jacket is enough for a year or two. But to illuminate the city, heat the home in the winter, you will have to move around the earth anyway. Otherwise, chaos. Therefore, the demand for energy will be stable. And for what currency to sell - yuan, euro gold or barter for meat, is another question. The main order in the country, and that would not have sold their own.
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 25 March 2013 14: 33 New
              +3
              "The share of imports in the total volume of food, according to scientists, is at least 50%, and Moscow and St. Petersburg import up to 70-80% of foodstuffs. Now, 43 kg of meat and 194 kg of milk are produced per capita in Russia per year. the reasonable consumption rate per person is at least 81 kg of meat and almost 400 liters of milk.
              According to the estimates of scientists-economists, doctors, nutritionists, the daily consumption per person in Russia is on average 2200 kcal (2590 kcal - in 1990). We are already lagging behind Africa, where an average of 2300 kcal is consumed. In the US and the EU, the caloric intake is 3500-3600 kcal. According to the international classification of the World Food Organization (FAO), a diet of 2150 calories characterizes conditions of permanent malnutrition. The normal level for a person is 2600 calories, i.e. the population of the Russian Federation is not provided with a normal level of nutrition. "
              http://akademiagp.ru/prodovolstvennaya-bezopasnost-rossii/
              1. common man
                common man 25 March 2013 15: 52 New
                +2
                That's what the Americans do not fit in their pants with their 3600 kcal.
          2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT 25 March 2013 13: 50 New
            +2
            Ours will start to produce the missing goods, volumes will increase, the cost price will decrease, so we can buy ... in short, do not send the boys !!! drinks
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 25 March 2013 14: 30 New
              -2
              To provide yourself with products, you must either buy them for petrodollars or grow them yourself (and we have all the collective farms destroyed and MTS too. The amount of agricultural machinery is scanty). Private farmers will never compare in efficiency with collective farms. So one hope that gas and oil will fall in price and in summer cottages!
              1. avensis
                avensis 25 March 2013 18: 07 New
                -1
                "and we have all the collective farms destroyed and the MTS too. The amount of agricultural machinery is scanty)."
                wildly sorry, but when was the last time you visited a village? Collective farms - top of the organization of agricultural producers! Tell this to any peasant - they will twist a finger at the temple, or they will give it in the face. Only a private farmer is able to feed himself and you in addition.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 26 March 2013 16: 41 New
                  -1
                  Perhaps things are different in different areas. I have a lot of abandoned fields around the city. And in terms of productivity and the cost of production, the private farmer is going to the collective farm as much as to Beijing with cancer!
              2. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: S_mirnov
                To provide yourself with products, you must either buy them for petrodollars or grow them yourself (and we have all the collective farms destroyed and MTS too. The amount of agricultural machinery is scanty). Private farmers will never compare in efficiency with collective farms. So one hope that gas and oil will fall in price and in summer cottages!

                What are you talking about now? Russia provides itself with food in full. The only things that are imported are beef meat and fruits / vegetables in the winter. But according to the most important agricultural crops like beets or grains, the Russian Federation is one of the three world leaders. The basics of imports in the Russian Federation are household appliances, automobiles and pharmaceutical products. For the most part, this is all the so-called luxury segment. In the event of a crisis, luxury is first abandoned, not food. At the same time, the physical survival of the West depends in general on Russian exports. If we stop selling oil and gas there, then there will be no crops in the EU. There they will starve to death.

                Regarding agriculture and agriculture, you spent a very long time sitting in your room. Just take a trip out of town and see how much, now just the sowing season begins.
          3. avensis
            avensis 25 March 2013 18: 02 New
            +2
            If the dollar collapses, the yuan will collapse even lower!
            Maybe you have shelves in Moscow and are overwhelmed with 70% imported consumer goods - but what does it matter? In a crisis, the depth that is approaching will not be up to the new TV - a tablet, and other things .. yeah, I’d like to eat)) And we already have a lot of products
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 19: 32 New
              +5
              Quote: avensis
              Maybe you have in Moscow

              If my will were to erase Moscow as an all-Russian tumor ..

              People live in the provinces.
              And you will have to deal with a potential crisis as always:
              a vegetable garden, an army "eternal" jacket, firewood for the stove - secretly from the forest, and meat - only on holidays
          4. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 25 March 2013 22: 33 New
            +2
            Jacketed potato and herring, a little onion top, carefully grown in the garden, brew brews. Business then. If all the foie gras will be eaten, then you don’t have enough ducks (
          5. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            We forgot about the real economic component of this situation - following the depreciation of the dollar, the Russian ruble will collapse (see the Central Bank's currency basket). And since the shelves of our stores are 50-70% overloaded with imported goods, we will go to the store like a museum - as it was in the mid-90s. And the RMB exchange rate against the ruble will jump no less than the dollar jumped in August 1998. I’m talking about it. Post patriotic slogans - GOOD. And what will we eat?

            What are the implications of such events for Europe? If Russia cannot buy foreign goods, this will only exacerbate the situation in the West. They will finally fall into the abyss of crisis.

            As for the article, the feces are rare. Although the author’s idea is clear. Particularly ridiculous missile defense, but leave it. I would like to get out exclusively in the economic sense.
            What is happening is called simply - theft. On the other hand, this is the final nail in the coffin of Western banks. Together with the adopted law on the prohibition of foreign accounts for officials, the transition to mutual settlements in national currencies with China and even the death of birch, we can say that the governing apparatus of Russia will undergo an ideological purge.
            And it costs not just 5 billion confiscated, it costs 50, or even 500 billion.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 26 March 2013 21: 15 New
              +4
              Quote: Gluxar_
              If Russia cannot buy foreign goods, it will only aggravate the situation in the West

              Remember 2009.
              The collapse of the global economy will lead to the lack of demand for energy.
              And we changed the main export product from grain and hemp in 1914 to gas and oil today.
              In 1985, when the price of a barrel of oil was deliberately lowered from 40 amd. until 15, the USSR began to stagger. And to us before the USSR - how to walk to Berlin ...
              1. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 22: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: stalkerwalker

                Remember 2009.
                The collapse of the global economy will lead to the lack of demand for energy.
                And we changed the main export product from grain and hemp in 1914 to gas and oil today.
                In 1985, when the price of a barrel of oil was deliberately lowered from 40 amd. until 15, the USSR began to stagger. And to us before the USSR - how to walk to Berlin ...

                Look at the results of this crisis, everything fell. But the West just crashed. In 2008-2009, a hidden nationalization of a large part of our economy was carried out. Today we are not so dependent on foreign capital.
                This is something completely different. The goods are divided according to their importance and Russia is provided with everything necessary, so the devil is not so terrible as who is painted. A few years before the "collapse" of oil prices, the United States itself was reeling, so Mama did not grieve, and the USSR stood firmly on its feet. The collapse of the USSR is not connected with the fall in energy prices, there are structural problems and betrayals of the elites.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 19: 48 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  A few years before the "collapse" of oil prices, the United States itself was reeling, so Mama did not grieve, and the USSR stood firmly on its feet. The collapse of the USSR is not connected with the fall in energy prices, there are structural problems and betrayals of the elites.

                  Agree
                  и
                  Thank you.
        4. Kaa
          Kaa 25 March 2013 12: 30 New
          +7
          Quote: Egoza
          there will be one international red currency in the world.

          Quote: Egoza
          still show Kuzkin mother of Europe and the United States

          Here she is, darling, this very mother, let her take a closer look ... soon they will be sold for a bag of such cans in Europe ...
      3. Kaa
        Kaa 25 March 2013 12: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        China hopes to enable all exporters and importers to make settlements for international transactions in RMB by the end of the year,

        Moreover, this is backed up by both goods and resources, as well as gold, and not only in China. "Russia has become the world leader in terms of gold purchases on world markets," Bloomberg business news agency reported today with reference to the latest data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). China is in second place, which is a quarter behind Russia in terms of volumes. purchases of metal. "The mass of gold purchased by Russia is 2 times the mass of the famous American Statue of Liberty," the agency emphasizes. Independent experts note that the policy of the Russian authorities to buy gold "is extremely effective and profitable for the country." Since 3, the price gold increased by 2000%, which confirmed the loyalty of the financial policy of the Russian leadership.
        "At a time when central banks around the world are speeding up the printing of paper money in order to get out of the financial crisis, undermining investor confidence in the dollar and euro, there is a search for the most reliable assets," Bloomberg notes. One of the main, among such assets, is gold.http: //telegraf.com.ua/biznes/ekonomika/kakaya-strana-stala-mirovyim-lide
        rom-po-zakupkam-zolota.html
        Everyone understands (the US State Department is constantly repeating this) that the yuan is clearly an undervalued currency, the demand for it is guaranteed - deposits in yuan will only grow, and deposits in dollars will fall. How many yuan do not print China now - they will tear off with their hands. Even the European Union is asking for loans in RMB from China (the Chinese do not agree - they demand that European factories be sold to them). And some simply have nowhere to go, for example, Japan and Korea. Both countries built an “export-oriented economy.” To put it simply, industrializing in these countries (and unlike Stalin's industrialization) completely ruined agriculture and much more, Japan and Korea are completely dependent on food imports. The dollar will fall, international trade will fall, what will be in these countries? Each other? Therefore, the most devoted ally of the United States, Japan, and betrayed the first, after the fall of the dollar, she will need the new world currency more than others, allowing her to export her cars and buy someone else's food. China could have long put a dollar in a single shot, at any time, by simply dropping trillions of dollars and a third of US debt from all its stocks into the market. China did not want to do this, he preferred to continue rapid development, China was happy with everything, no “era of changes” was needed for him. Even selling US dollars and debt obligations quietly and leisurely, as China has done so far, it will still incur enormous financial losses. China did not need this war, nor did it unleash it. The US State Department imposed a war on China, and China simply had no choice. The US State Department’s policy is nothing but madness; the US Department of State has tried to derail the economy of its main creditor and. . . the creditor demanded to repay the debts.
        //voprosik.net/kitaj-rushit-ameriku/ © QUESTION
        So, in which case ... not Russia will have questions to Germany, but the US to China ... "maybe give us a little more respite ... with the dollar falling."
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 25 March 2013 12: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: Kaa
          Russia has become a world leader in gold purchases in world markets

          I would be comforted, by this news, if Russia bought more gold than was mined in the Russian mines during this time, but for now there is nothing to be comforted about.
          There is much more gold mined in Russia than it is bought by state security.
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 25 March 2013 13: 43 New
            +4
            Quote: ATATA
            There is much more gold mined in Russia than it is bought by state security.

            The massive purchase of gold will lead to panic: "Most experts are sure that if China really enters the market for gold, it is fraught not only with an increase in prices for this metal, but also with quite serious shocks for the dollar." If China starts buying gold, the market will get two signals for its price growth: first, a large player has entered the market, which destabilizes the current parity of supply and demand, second, the main US creditor begins to seriously doubt the real value of the dollar and / or the creditworthiness of the States, which will inevitably cause an increase in panic in the market and another search for an alternative to the dollar. In the medium term, such a step will lead to a depreciation of the dollar, "says Nigmatov. Leading analyst at UFS Investment Company Ilya Balakirev agrees:" the collapse of the model of the world, built according to American rules.This is an attack not on gold, but on dollar as an international reserve currency. The consequences of such a step can be colossal. " Balakirev clarifies that China's motives may be either expectations of the inevitable - from the point of view of Chinese observers - the collapse of the American model of the world, or a desire to deliberately undermine the situation and strengthen China's position in the world economy. If China and other major US creditors begin to implement the golden maneuver, then the rest of the countries will also have to abandon the dollar. Russia, among others, will have to adapt to the new conditions. However, according to Balakirev, “it is quite possible that apocalyptic scenarios are not so bad for Russia”: “For example, we could sell oil and gas for rubles. Very interesting options are possible. "
            http://voprosik.net/kitaj-atakuet-dollar/
            In addition, if gold can still be mined at home, then why buy in bulk, and dollars are useful so far for dumping in third countries ... for goods ... while they take it.
            1. rolik
              rolik 25 March 2013 17: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: Kaa
              The second - the main creditor of the United States begins to seriously doubt the real value of the dollar and / or creditworthiness of the States,

              In the States, they know the price of the dollar, and its tensile strength. What is happening now in poker is called a bluff. And all the leading countries know this. It is still beneficial to keep the dollar as a demanding currency. China's economy was export-oriented, and now it has begun to increase domestic demand to strengthen the Chinese economy. and when this line is fully established and domestic demand will more than offset export operations. Then China will slaughter the dollar and serve it to the table for breakfast. Russia needs to prepare for this, withdraw its reserves from the dollar and convert them to gold and industrial. domestic production. If we move away from the Kudrinsky model of storing money, then a fall in the dollar will not have such a devastating effect on the country as when the stabilization fund was stored in dollyarii. The more independence we have from the euro and the dollar, the more relaxed you can sleep at night.
              And the case of Cyprus presented a visual lesson, including to large corporations in places of storage of money. They would save money in the country and would not drink validol. Industry developed at a faster pace.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 20: 36 New
                +6
                I just want to write: "Very true! Exactly!" ...
                I agree.
                Sharp economic "jerking" will rock the boat of the entire world financial system to a dangerous and even fatal lurch.
                No one will save Russia like Cyprus.
                On the contrary - they will add and sink with a foot ...
            2. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: Kaa
              In addition, if gold can still be mined at home, then why buy in bulk, and dollars are useful so far for dumping in third countries ... for goods ... while they take it.

              Central Bank gold is bought in the market. You understand that the extracted Polyus Gold does not go to gold reserves. This is a public company and sells gold to the market, and not to the state store.
              But you can’t buy much from the market, it greatly inflates prices, which are already phenomenal. Gold is an interesting tool, but to some extent already inserted into the pyramid of the dollar. The fact is that the USA is the largest holder of gold, and with its growth, US assets also grow. Therefore, playing against the United States buying gold will not work, however, buying from the market will also not be received as the offer is very limited. Now, if you somehow convert dollar assets into American gold at the current exchange rate ... but this is all a dream, unfortunately this is unlikely. We need other tools and the yuan is not the best. It is as virtual as the dollar, there are no real values ​​behind it. Only hypothetical production capacities, but they really also cost little. There will be no resources, there will be no renminbi. There will be no demand for goods, nor will there be a RMB. Currency has no real value. In this situation, the dollar is much stronger. behind it stands, as it were, the whole West, its civilizational and military component. Some real value is needed, for example, kilowatt / hour.
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 26 March 2013 04: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: Gluxar_
                Central Bank gold is bought in the market. You understand that the mined Polyus Gold does not go to gold reserves

                AND....? 1) "According to the Gokhran, the domestic market of Russia is capable of absorbing 100 tons of gold in coins annually, 50 tons of gold in" gold certificates "and warehouse receipts (for the securities market) and 10 tons of gold in bullions (and with the abolition of VAT, much more Thus, with the normalization of the market, domestic consumption of gold may be at least 200 tons, which in the next decade will ensure the sale of all mined gold. 2) Polyus Gold is not the only company. According to 2005 data, there were 9 largest gold mining companies, their total the contribution was 67 tons, that is, 44%, Polyus-Gold - only 25 tons. The remaining 56% are small companies that are unable to trade on the foreign market. Pole ", or with someone else you can pay on the spot, annually increasing the stock by these same 3 tons (according to materials http://www.globfin.ru/articles/precious/rusmkt.htm). 200) I support the idea of ​​a kilowatt hour, only Zapa will not do this, then they (the majority) are bankrupt.
                1. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 05: 01 New
                  +1
                  I just wanted to say / remind you that not everything that is mined immediately becomes the property of the state. I'm glad you understand that too. I just sometimes read comments here and just wonder how illiterate our people are in economic matters. They make the wrong assumptions, like "Russia produces 250 tons of gold, but only 30 tons are supplied to the gold reserves, and the rest was stolen and broken."
          2. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: ATATA
            I would be comforted, by this news, if Russia bought more gold than was mined in Russia during this time, but for now there’s nothing to be comforted about. Gold is mined in Russia much more than it is bought by the state guards.

            Sure. Gold is still a very popular industrial metal. Do you have any idea how much gold the population has? Any 585 and "Gold" is just as familiar as "five". What an investment, and my wife is pleased. I just never buy stones, I prefer metal.

            The essence of the event is different, if many banks in the world sell gold, then Russia buys. And buys the most in the world. This is an indicator and says a lot. The same Texas also wants a piece of gold. And Germany modestly hints that it is necessary to return the redhead to the country. Only Anglo-Saxons like do not understand how much, because there are green papers ... buy better than them.
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: esaul
      In general, the Cypriot financial cauldron exposed a lot of pitfalls.
      1. Russia is still NOT perceived by European integrators as a full partner

      Valery, why on earth will the European elite perceive our lesson in power as equal partners?
      And they did it right that they took it, but not enough! It’s necessary to take everything away, otherwise our thieves in law are used to hiding the stolen money from their people abroad. Yes, a bow to the Europeans for this action. May God grant them health!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: ATATA
        Yes, a bow to the Europeans for this action.

        But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 52 New
          29
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?

          NO!!!!! Absolutely!!! Rob the loot.
          And not what they are not Russia, they are an abscess on the body of Russia! Her pus, gangrene!
          I was not robbed by Europeans, but gentlemen whose interests are protected by Surkov.
          I’ll say it again, let them all be taken away from them by a foreign country, maybe then they will stop hiding money stolen from the people abroad.
          Confuses only one. Little was taken from them, everything must be taken!
          1. sams
            sams 25 March 2013 09: 04 New
            +4
            I like this:
            "...русские money is very tangible in the business sector in Europe. "
            Why not Russian? laughing
            1. rolik
              rolik 25 March 2013 17: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: sams
              Why not Russian?

              But because we are RUSSIAN for them, not Russians.
              And then, they must correctly name their future owners.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: ATATA

            NO!!!!! Absolutely!!! Rob the loot.

            That will be robbed by our state-owned companies as well, and that doesn’t bother you and the EU officials, do they essentially go into the pocket of the Russian budget or doesn’t reach you?
            1. ATATA
              ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 18 New
              24
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Do they essentially go into the pocket of Russia's budget or doesn’t it reach you?

              You yourself are not funny? laughing
              The Russian budget pocket is in the treasury, and not in the offshore Cyprus.
              And the Europeans requisitioned the common fund of Russian thieves.
              AND CORRECTLY DONE!
              But Alexander, doesn’t bother you that our state-owned companies and the Russian budget keep our money in an offshore, where Russia has no leverage? By law, this money can be only in the treasury and no where else!
              At the very least, this is negligence, and so practically treason.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 16 New
                +3
                Quote: ATATA
                And Europeans requisitioned the common thieves of Russia

                Yes, how do you know. That all the money is stolen there, so the assumption is all thieves. There are normal comrades (not hucksters) there is money of people who twice threw our native state in 91 and 98 as a result of this transferred money from Russia to Cyprus and other places. there are few such people, yes, but they are, and our state must protect them, like you from a robber on the street.
                Quote: ATATA
                By law, this money can only be in the treasury and no where else!

                Yes, and how is international trade conducted? How are assets bought up?
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA 25 March 2013 10: 26 New
                  10
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, how do you know. That all the money is stolen there

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, and how is international trade conducted? How are assets bought up?

                  Under Stalin, the USSR conducted the same international trade, but for this he did not need offshores.
                  And the demonstrations of grandmothers thrown by Cyprus, I have not seen. But other persons on TV on this story have already gone through and more than once. And so these people who cry for state money in Cyprus, I think, neither 91 nor 98 were among the victims, but rather the opposite.
                  Ida! Before the Cyprus crisis, I still had some illusions about our leaders, but this story for me finally put everything in its place. And they themselves burned with their whining!
                  Yes! We are ruled by crooks and thieves!
                  And let all Europeans and mattresses take away all their money! DIVISION! I won’t see this money anyway!
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 38 New
                    +3
                    Quote: ATATA
                    And let all Europeans and mattresses take away all their money! DIVISION! I won’t see this money anyway!

                    In your opinion, then let all the oil be taken away, you still do not get anything from it, but only the oligarchs. It is worth starting small and they will bite off your hand
                    1. ATATA
                      ATATA 25 March 2013 10: 51 New
                      +7
                      Oil then these stsuki and so consider giving a gift. All profits in the stabilization fund from mattresses. Are you Sasha that you personally have oil? How many new plants have been built in Russia? What can we carry out expensive interplanetary projects? Or are we building a new BAM? Or do we all live in cottages and everyone has free wifi like mattresses? Or do we have WELFER $ 1000 for an unemployed nose? SASHA wake up! We were all thrown into 91, and now they are sensibly bred like suckers, but we have already agreed to the point that we should go to the trenches for World War III for grandmothers who have stayed with us at 3,14!
                      Sasha enough, I'm fed up with tales!
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 11: 37 New
                        +2
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Are you Sasha that you personally have oil?

                        I buy gasoline.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        How many new plants have been built in Russia?

                        Of the approximately 95 newly-built and operational enterprises, the vast majority were small and medium-sized enterprises, mainly related to the raw materials sector (8), the sectors of the first redistribution of raw materials, oil and gas processing, as well as the processing of timber (9), textile, shoe ( 8) and the food (11) industry, the production of packaging materials (3), as well as the building materials industry (30).
                        7 machine-building enterprises were built, 3 - electrical, 5 - related to the chemical industry, 1 pharmaceutical and 4 enterprises, which can certainly be attributed to high-tech industries.

                        Let it be for now.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Or are we building a new BAM?

                        We build and not a little, if there is a desire, you yourself will see what is built, You do not need to mind a lot of prosralipolymers.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        Or do we all live in cottages and everyone has free wifi like mattresses?

                        You watch lesser Hollywood films, otherwise you have ideas about life in the USA, which are sky-high.
                        Quote: ATATA
                        We were all thrown into 91, and now they are sensibly bred like suckers,

                        Nobody breds me!
                      2. ATATA
                        ATATA 25 March 2013 11: 39 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I buy gasoline.

                        You buy gas, at the same price as the mattresses, their current salary is 5 times more on average.
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 12: 35 New
                        +3
                        Quote: ATATA

                        You buy gas, at the same price as the mattresses, their current salary is 5 times more on average.

                        Give the data without blah blah blah. Show salaries and expenses for communal services and more, and we will compare wink
                      4. ATATA
                        ATATA 25 March 2013 13: 02 New
                        +8
                        Alexander, the fact that the standard of living in the United States is higher than ours so far is that on average, this is not disputable and a gallon of gas for $ 2 is a fact. For our rubles and units, 20 rubles / liter is the whole comparison. How much they achieve this is another matter.
                        And what is the rent? I still can’t buy an apartment. I get about $ 1 for rental housing, I pay $ 700. What kind of Americans are you to me? The USA does not export 500 million tons of oil and does not sell gas abroad, what the hell will you say? Here, the Arabs there for the birth to the account of a new person $ 500 is charged. In short, well, not in our favor, these comparisons. Yes, and I do not want to compare with the United States; I want to align with the USSR!
                2. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 04: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Oil then these stsuki and so consider giving a gift. All profits in the stabilization fund from mattresses. Are you Sasha that you personally have oil? How many new plants have been built in Russia? What can we carry out expensive interplanetary projects? Or are we building a new BAM? Or do we all live in cottages and everyone has free wifi like mattresses? Or do we have WELFER $ 1000 for an unemployed nose? SASHA wake up! We were all thrown into 91, and now they are sensibly bred like suckers, but we have already agreed to the point that we should go to the trenches for World War III for grandmothers who have stayed with us at 3,14! Sasha enough, I'm fed up with tales!

                  What nonsense you write. Nothing was stolen from you because you have nothing. And nothing will happen, because sitting on your ass and complaining, you will not earn anything. There are more than enough construction projects in Russia, go earn some money, maybe work will correct your attitude towards life. Not only BAM was built. Not so long ago, the ESPO was completed, last year the Nord Stream. There is such a site called "made by us", just go and see what Russian people do when they are not sitting on their ass. Enlighten yourself.

                  And stop kissing your moral masters from the West, take off the headcrab already. There are no such benefits in the United States. A salary of $ 3000 a month is very cool, just like ours. The average salary is much lower. And if the rounded average salary in the United States is $ 25, then do not forget that not everyone can work even 40 hours a week for them, there are restrictions even more so now. And do not forget that 1 percent of the population has "bonuses" which are also considered in the total income, then it turns out that the layer of bankers and surgeons has salaries of 500-600k per year, while ordinary workers do not always reach 15.
                  Unemployment Benefit $ 580. This is not so small, but only if you do not live in the USA itself. Because you just went to work from your coat in the suburbs and you can pay for one-way roads at $ 25 a day, and if there is still a bridge. Then you need to park somewhere, it's still about $ 8 per hour. Take out the trash, $ 150. Buy a policy? Limited by a limit of $ 350 per month ... oh, that’s not enough. Property Taxes? Water? For a walk on the lawn ... Yes, you’re just a little, as it’s softer to say, you’ll go nuts when you understand what you have to pay in the USA ... unless the air is free so far ... And if you pass to the red light or do not pay for parking in time .. or throw away a cigarette butt ... In general, you don’t have to be very offended, if you didn’t steal all of your Russian money, then buy a ticket to the USA and live there a couple of weeks, just write down the address of the embassy or make a tattoo and sew $ 200 into your heel to get to there, or if you accidentally break some sort of another law somewhere outside 20 km from New York, the local sheriff can hang you up.
                3. OTAKE
                  OTAKE 26 March 2013 05: 36 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  What nonsense you write. Nothing was stolen from you because you have nothing. And nothing will happen, because sitting on your ass and complaining, you will not earn anything. There are more than enough construction projects in Russia, go earn some money, maybe work will correct your attitude towards life. Not only BAM was built. Not so long ago, the ESPO was completed, last year the Nord Stream. There is such a site called "made by us", just go and see what Russian people do when they are not sitting on their ass. Enlighten yourself.

                  LOL, I’m ready to pay at least $ 1000 a month for nothing in the West, and live on $ 50 a month, for bread and water, for a clean entrance, for a clean street, for normal neighbors, for the absence of cattle, educated in the spirit of consuming yaga and unrestrained fuck in the entrance, for normal medical services, and not some kind of miserable semblance of what is here, God bless her with a car, I can walk around breaking up on foot, so that at 2 a.m. I would not see gopoty and other cattle in the yard , for adequate people, and not thumping in the morning and so on and so forth, you can get at least $ 10 in Russia and not spend them on the fact that they are spent in the West - by an order of magnitude.
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                5. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 23: 11 New
                  0
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  And there. yes, clean, tidy ... Just boring there, For Rub Hedgehog.

                  Where is it clean? Where the police patrol, maybe. On the lawn of a beautiful house? Yes. But you will be shot without hesitation if you only step on this grass.
                6. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 27 March 2013 19: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  Where is it clean? Where the police patrol, maybe. On the lawn of a beautiful house? Yes. But you will be shot without hesitation if you only step on this grass.

                  You know, I focus more on Northwest Europe with the Baltic basin. Well, far from as bad there as you write.
                  hi
            2. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 23: 08 New
              0
              Quote: OTAKE
              LOL, I’m ready to pay at least $ 1000 a month for nothing in the West, and live on $ 50 a month, for bread and water, for a clean entrance, for a clean street, for normal neighbors, for the absence of cattle, educated in the spirit of consuming yaga and unrestrained fuck in the entrance, for normal medical services, and not some kind of miserable semblance of what is here, God bless her with a car, I can walk around breaking up on foot, so that at 2 a.m. I would not see gopoty and other cattle in the yard , for adequate people, and not thumping in the morning and so on and so forth, you can get at least $ 10 in Russia and not spend them on the fact that they are spent in the West - by an order of magnitude.

              To start a commentary on the "military review" with LOL is already an indicator of your outlook. What you describe is good for "our rush", but you must distinguish the fictional fiction of the entertaining comedy show from reality. I live in a residential area of ​​the city, I have not seen drunk people for probably 5 years. Sometimes I see a group of people clearly going not to work in the morning, but I have never seen them drunk. Shkolota can be impudent, but on the way to work every day, passing by the school, I never saw anyone with "yaga" or the banks themselves on the ground. You're going overboard with clichés. Then write about drunken bears on the tank. Some nonsense.
              In the west, you will only get to work for $ 50. And you will be fined 2000 euros for throwing rubbish by the road. In Germany, if you pee in a grove, you will be fined 1500 euros for environmental damage. No arguments will help you there. However, if you do not enter the "shop-window" shopping area, then an Arab or a Negro will kill you and abuse you and no one will help you. The police will tell you "what have you forgotten there? You can be a terrorist. Normal people don't go there." And this "there" is everywhere except the window of the West. The suburbs of the city of love are many times more dangerous than Butovo. There they burn hundreds of cars and the police don't even try to do anything.
            3. OTAKE
              OTAKE 27 March 2013 07: 57 New
              +1
              Where do you live if it's not a secret?) If you are so kind as to ask you, to the Irkutsk region or Transbaikalia, you will learn a lot of interesting things in terms of communicating with people who are not far off, I see here every day both gopota and blatota, here half of the people still live in prison terms , all the same "thieves, men, roosters" only in the wild, but in large metropolitan areas there is no dispute, they have already moved away from this, and even then such a contingent sometimes comes across)
  2. Skavron
    Skavron 25 March 2013 10: 50 New
    +6
    ATATA for you "+" is over ... but it's a pity .. would have put it.
    All right. All is correct.
    Just do not need this:
    Quote: ATATA
    And let all Europeans and mattresses take away all their money!

    Better let them return finances to the domestic economy.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 11: 00 New
      14
      Skavron this money will never return to us, as soon as they crossed the border of the Russian Federation, this money does not work with us, EVERYTHING!
      Therefore, one should not think about how to return the money from abroad, one should think about how to tear these parasites from the trough from which they are used to feed.
      And thanks to the EU for opening my eyes with CYPRUS! I was blind !!!
      Quote: Skavron
      Better let them return finances to the domestic economy.

      Ida,
      "Russians always come for their money and take it with interest"
      Otto Bismarck. hi
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 12: 50 New
        +7
        MONEY SHOULD WORK.
        In the form of investments at least.
        To date, the accounts of the "diamond" milion in the offshore accounts have about 35-40 trillion US dollars UNDEMANDED WITHOUT MOVEMENT.
        The situation with the Cypriot off-shores can change this situation in different directions:
        - if you change deposits in dollars to another type of currency - the collapse of am.dollar is inevitable; then they will CREATE IN URGENT ORDER NEW BANKS IN THE NEW OFF-SHORES;
        - if you run money into development (industry, technology, etc.), you will VERY SERIOUSLY change the flow of world money.

        In general, a complete misunderstanding ... request
  • rolik
    rolik 25 March 2013 18: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, how do you know. That all the money is stolen there, so the assumption is all thieves. There are normal comrades

    Why were offshore companies created ??? Right, for tax-free business. For business, 80-90 percent is spent on left-wing schemes, so that later money can be transferred to a tax-free paradise where their state (from which they are pulled out) will not be able to get it. And under this was ideally summed up the ideology of free enterprise. If the company is honestly conducting business (well, let's say relatively honestly), and it has no problems with taxes. Why would she transfer money to offshore? The same banking operations are carried out by banks located within the country. And if you get left profit and want to get it out of taxation and use it later for dark transactions, then the direct road to offshore. They won’t ask you where the firewood came from, but they’ll gladly put it on the account. And the fact that our giants such as Gazprom and others appeared in Cyprus means that the children have a lot of skeletons in the closet. And now, these skeletons pulled the light of day. That's why plush swept over, pounded his bald head on the floor. Since his grandmothers and his friends are trying to select European friends. And they did not care about democracy, the secret of deposits and the inviolability of other people's money. When life is squeezed, it’s not so heated yet. And in this matter I fully support GDP, for every cunning ass there is a bolt with a bend.
    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 04: 36 New
      +1
      I'm already starting to get a little upset in visitors to this resource, probably all the same military science and economics are completely different sciences. Where does such a superficial judgment and cliche come from? Wasn’t you embarrassed then by Medvedev’s proposal for offshore in the Far East?

      Yes, there is money from bandits and thieves offshore. But in the total mass it is 2-3% maximum. The main advantages of offshore companies for private business are that "special jurisdiction" allows you to minimize tax costs. And this is a very significant savings. But this is not about “laundering money” or not paying taxes. The same VAT is not going anywhere. But if two individuals from different countries have agreed on the purchase / sale of a business in a third country, then it is profitable for them to exchange assets where 30% or even 13% will not be taken from you for this, as it would be at the place of business, because for a third state nothing will change, the owner, as he was a foreigner, has remained so, and the surname is not significant in the documents. The same applies to counterparties of financial institutions, the volumes of transactions of which are colossal and taxes would make their business simply unprofitable.
      In general, if you write something, then try to learn a little bit about the subject, and not immediately repeat the common tales and horror stories.

      What bothers me in this situation is that many Russian dealing centers have been registered in Cyprus and have accounts there. Non-payment of profit, and even worse, can be expected immediately after the decision comes into force, here, of course, ordinary citizens will also suffer.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 26 March 2013 21: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: Gluxar_
        I’m starting to get a little upset in visitors to this resource, probably all the same military science and economics are completely different sciences.

        Something for a long time you, my friend, "took aim" ....
        Yes, you are right .... "Estonian forum" is a clear proof of this.
        Personally, I generally have the opinion that here "a handful" of well-known people in uniform (real) "are gathered".
        And you start to "raise" posts - my God ...
        If the post weighs more than 20 phrases and is pseudo-scientific, it means "ripped off" somewhere and squeezed in here. You start to communicate - and there the level of the 7th grade, but with show-off. In general, I took a sip ...
  • Gluxar_
    Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, and how is international trade conducted? How are assets bought up?

    A man of the same, either red or with male contraceptives on his sleeve ...
  • Gluxar_
    Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 55 New
    0
    Quote: ATATA
    You yourself are not funny? The Russian budget pocket is in the treasury, and not in the offshore of Cyprus. And the Europeans requisitioned the common thieves of Russia. And they did it right! But doesn’t it bother you that our state-owned companies and the Russian budget keep our money offshore, where Russia has no leverage? By law, this money can only be in the treasury and no where else! At the very least, this is negligence, and so practically treason.

    Yeah, where do you get so much hatred from? And didn’t you think that the company Rosneft or Lukoil, buying a gas station network in Austria, would not create its own bank for this transaction, but would simply use preferential jurisdiction to minimize costs on the one hand and optimize the deal on the other? Assets can be exchanged in Cyprus at a reduced tax rate, and not in Austria itself. This is part of that money and can be withdrawn. But as I understand someone robbed you, your honestly earned money was taken to Cyprus and you are now happy that the offender will be punished ... the most important thing is that you will become better off from this.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 25 March 2013 09: 48 New
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Our state-owned companies will also be robbed,

    And if the companies are state-owned, why do they keep the money in offshore-Cyprus?
    1. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 25 March 2013 10: 12 New
      +4
      Great question. I think that the situation with Cyprus is just wonderful, it can be summed up in one phrase - "Keep your money in a savings bank." Of course, in the near future major problems are possible with the renewal of funds, salaries, etc., but after that Russian money will work for Russia. They say that because of the export, Russian money will leave Cyprus and how many Cypriots - bankers will lose their jobs - don't care, my aunt works at the Savings Bank, let this money pass through her, maybe her salary will be raised.
      1. svp67
        svp67 25 March 2013 12: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: FC Skif
        I think that the situation with Cyprus is just wonderful, it can be summed up in one phrase - "Keep your money in a savings bank."



        It remains only to find out - where does the Savings Bank keep money?
      2. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 04: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: FC Skif
        They say that because of the export, Russian money will leave Cyprus and some Cypriots - bankers will lose their jobs - do not care, my aunt works in my savings bank, let this money go through her, maybe they will raise her salary.

        And this is generally one of the most important issues. What do Cypriots themselves think? Or do they think 10 billion will be eternal? They will eat them quickly, pay off their debts, but they have already buried their national business. What will they earn from? No one else will entrust their money to them.
    2. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 10: 19 New
      +2
      Yes they do not hold, they make out the movement only
    3. Apollo
      25 March 2013 11: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      And if the companies are state-owned, why do they keep the money in offshore-Cyprus?


      That's exactly why. I already wrote about this in the year before last

      Apollon 12 March 2013 09: 24 | The oligarchs cut "inefficient" production and take assets to offshore
      The trouble with the Russian economy, as well as the countries of the former Union, is that it is based on the clan family ties and friendly relations.
      The state. The fundamental, strategic sectors need to be concentrated (a controlling stake) in their hands. Someone can blame me for being a supporter of state monopoly, yes it is, otherwise the country (its wealth, which incidentally happens) will be pulled apart. It’s time to finally decide on the so-called offshore zones, for which they exist, I think it’s not worth explaining. The State Duma has not worked out this issue effectively enough. In my opinion, we need to return to this issue again tavit point just navsegda.Aktivy Russian economy should be located only in Russia, another opinion here, I think should not be.
      http://topwar.ru/index.php?cstart=2&do=lastcomments&userid=26162#comment
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 12: 39 New
      +5
      What would football players buy overseas for crazy grandmas.
      their mother so !!!!
    5. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 04: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      And if the companies are state-owned, why do they keep the money in offshore-Cyprus?

      In order not to pay taxes to third countries for the acquisition of assets in these countries.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 26 March 2013 21: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Gluxar_
        In order not to pay taxes to third countries for the acquisition of assets in these countries.

        "Learn, learn and learn". V.I.Ulyanov-Lenin.
        Or did he "paint" the pen?
  • 30143
    30143 25 March 2013 10: 22 New
    +2
    To state this, you need to open all the schemes. And they are not entirely legal.
  • avensis
    avensis 25 March 2013 18: 14 New
    +2
    "Our state companies will also be robbed, so this does not bother you and the EU officials, are they essentially getting into the pocket of the Russian budget or does it not reach you?" something zomboyachik badly affects you.
    Yesterday Kiselev so stubbornly insisted on a conspiracy against the Russians, interference in our affairs. And on the surface, everything is much easier. Under this pseudo-patriotic concern for the prestige of the country - there is an open fear of "our" (unfortunately) VORIE - to lose even a small part of the stolen money "with such difficulty". Yes, Kiselev made me very sad yesterday.
  • explorer
    explorer 25 March 2013 09: 21 New
    -3
    Quote: ATATA
    Confuses only one. Little was taken from them, everything must be taken!

    That is, you are glad that if US used to have the potential to return money to their homeland and NOW it will not.
    Yes, my friend, worse than the fifth column.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: explorer
      what if US used to have the potential to have a chance to return the money to their homeland and NOW it was gone.

      State officials stole state money, (budget, state companies) offshore !!!! Ponder !!!
      Quote: explorer
      in potential there was a chance to return the money to his homeland and NOW he was gone.

      Are you raving? Sorry, but with logic, you are bad.
      What other potential is needed for their return?
      ps By the way, Moders highlight red.
      1. explorer
        explorer 25 March 2013 10: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: ATATA
        Are you raving? Sorry, but with logic, you are bad


        If you think that this is impossible, then this does not mean that it really is.
        While the money from the thief can be returned (by legislative means, with the help of special services - there would be political will) - but it will be impossible to return it from respectable burghers in Germany.

        and who else said that if the thief was taken away, he would calm down and go to drink with grief and then honestly work. -
        and until this hole is closed, it will leak.

        - at the expense of red highlighting - thanks, I didn’t know.
        1. rolik
          rolik 25 March 2013 22: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: explorer
          While the money from the thief can be returned (by legislative means, with the help of special services - there would be political will) - but it will be impossible to return it from respectable burghers in Germany.

          In order to return them, first you need to find in which offshore they are.
          And then, how to legally return them ???? It is necessary to collect evidence base, and this is a very, very long period. And under the condition of who is covering this money (our liberals are in power), this is practically impossible.
          So that I understand GDP very well - this is a lesson with a hint so direct that it is clear to everyone. You’ll be rattling money to the side, then don’t complain.)))))
    2. 30143
      30143 25 March 2013 10: 26 New
      +4
      Yes, happy !!! There is nothing to shed tears now. Remember Pavlov's reform. Where and who was the fifth column? The whole top. Their money works there, families live and study there. They need Russia like a "cash cow". And simple Vanya and Masha (sorry) don't care. And there are millions of them. Why worry about 1000 people when 100 million can barely make ends meet?
    3. 30143
      30143 25 March 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      Rather a realist with a touch of pissimism
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 20: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: explorer
      Yes, my friend, worse than the fifth column.

      "So are you against Soviet power?" crying
    5. rolik
      rolik 25 March 2013 22: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: explorer
      That is, you are glad that if we used to have the potential to return money to their homeland

      We did not have a chance to return the money to our homeland. So they would lie quietly on offshore accounts and work on the uncles who put them there. And now they were taken away from these uncles. And these figures can’t do anything, only LADY to complain and let a tear go.
      Once again, the country lost this money right away - as soon as it ended up on offshore accounts! Dot!
  • avt
    avt 25 March 2013 09: 38 New
    16
    Quote: ATATA
    I was not robbed by Europeans, but gentlemen whose interests are protected by Surkov.
    I’ll say it again, let them all be taken away from them by a foreign country, maybe then they will stop hiding money stolen from the people abroad.
    Confuses only one. Little was taken from them, everything must be taken!

    It is. Generally funny article, a kind of cry got on the headstock. And now we need to raise planes, sail ships ...... laughing The GDP warned that they are tormented by swallowing dust, well, it's time to throw stones, time to collect. Well, for someone who faithfully believes in Western values, the inviolability of private property, it is time to swallow dust. But in general it’s interesting. They will not dissolve the Duma, the issue has been resolved and General Naryshkin has already voiced it. But at the expense of the government ........ I think we are waiting for interesting news.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 48 New
      11
      Quote: avt
      Generally funny article, a kind of cry got on the headstock.

      These squeaks are better for me than heavenly music. laughing
      Dvrkovich was already beeping, Mendel was beeping as if he had been pressed Faberge, right now the Sovereign Democrat distinguished himself.
      The main thing here is not to forget anyone in this choir, all in a notebook.
      1. Normal
        Normal 25 March 2013 13: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: ATATA
        all into a notebook.

        Both on! Before reading the article, I thought if it was Surkov. I read, the most that neither is TOT! laughing Demagogy of the highest standard:
        After all, you understand, money - they are taken from no one and do not go anywhere, they are simply redistributed depending on the situation.
        Do we all understand? When state funds are sawn, plundered and withdrawn abroad, this is just a redistribution of funds. They threw you, robbed, robbed? Don’t worry, your money hasn’t gone anywhere, it’s just redistributed due to a changing situation.
        These are the comrades-in-arms of our Irreplaceable.
        Further even more:
        What is called the “Russian mafia” and “oligarchs” in the mass consciousness is, in fact, an instrument of Russian politics in the conditions after the 1991 year. Not every country, not every people is allowed to have its own ethnic "mafia", not every country is able to own such technology.
        Oh how! I don’t even know how to comment on this.
        Supporters of GDP, explain this statement of the loyal servant of the sovereign. And then I do not have enough eloquence.
        And of course we must protect the interests of such people with our lives, our blood .... sorry. but there are no decent words, but there are a lot of moderators in the discussion.

        ATATA - Plus and Plus and Plus
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 25 March 2013 14: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Normal
          After all, you understand, money - they are taken from no one and do not go anywhere, they are simply redistributed depending on the situation.

          AMEN!
      2. rolik
        rolik 25 March 2013 22: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: ATATA
        The main thing here is not to forget anyone in this choir, all in a notebook.

        And to wiretap)))))
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 25 March 2013 10: 57 New
      11
      Quote: avt
      But for someone who faithfully believes in Western values, the inviolability of private property, it is time to swallow dust


      It is important to understand for all the notorious Abramychs and Abramovichs that none of the overseas uncles will ever reckon with their financial interests, even though they lick their asses daily, they will tear them to dust and make them swallow if they NEED to save the dollar and their leverage influence. And all these scammers think that if they stole and transferred Russian assets abroad through Cyprus, then they are insured by British law and private property right? It turned out that this is far from the case. Having deceived your state, you can end up without pants. but acting in the public interest (well, let it be in the interests of the bloody Putin clan if anyone likes it) you can always count on state support
      The presence of "Russian money" in Cyprus enabled Putin to consolidate the elite. Patriots already understand everything. Liberals understand only through a wallet. When did you see so that government liberals brand the West with such frenzy?
      Quote: ATATA
      Dvrkovich was already beeping, Mendel was beeping as if he had been pressed Faberge, right now the Sovereign Democrat distinguished himself.
      The main thing here is not to forget anyone in this choir, all in a notebook.

      Let's be realistic - nobody will give us Cyprus to buy for ridiculous 6.bn (the cost of two Abramovich’s yachts) But we still get something significant in this game. What - we learn, see.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 11: 51 New
        +7
        I agree.
        We get ...
        I have a strong belief that a donut hole will not be the worst option.
      2. rolik
        rolik 25 March 2013 22: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Ascetic
        But something significant we still get in this game. What - we learn, see.

        The most valuable thing in this is experience. Experience and understanding that only we ourselves can create our own future and stand firm in the present, without the help of sweetly singing "well-wishers". The most effective medicine is always bitter))))
  • nakaz
    nakaz 25 March 2013 11: 44 New
    +3
    Money must lie in Russia and work for Russia
  • NKVD
    NKVD 25 March 2013 11: 52 New
    +5
    They paid for an article, they want to convince ordinary people that they are not robbing oligarch thieves, but you and me (what impudence).
  • mnn_13
    mnn_13 25 March 2013 12: 31 New
    +4
    Dear ATATA
    Very well understand your feelings. The same monsters robbed and rob me. Here are the problems - they plundered from you, but while they have this money, then there are opportunities along one or the other path, they will return to you and the state again. This is Russian money! When they are appropriated by Europeans, they can be completely forgotten.
    The mafia is everywhere the mafia but why rob only the Russian mafia? Why not Italian for example?
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 18: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: mnn_13
      The mafia is everywhere the mafia but why rob only the Russian mafia? Why not Italian for example?

      The question contains the answer - because it’s Italian (read - your own, native).
      "Network wars" lead not so much to "Arab revolutions" as they form the opinion of readers-listeners-viewers.
      Already wrote earlier, in other branches:"Nobody needs us there".
      Need our knowledge, skills, experience and, of course, money.
      Why? We are different ... Another culture, mentality. Those. as an ethnic group, we DO NOT BUILD into them, Western society.
  • Cheloveck
    Cheloveck 25 March 2013 09: 20 New
    10
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?

    It doesn’t bother.
    For!
    In what place is Russia itself?
    This money was taken out of Russia and will not be returned back in any case, no matter what kind of noodles they put on their ears.
    The remnants from Cyprus will not go to Russia, but to the Cayman Islands, to Monaco, Liechtenstein and other Burkina Faso, then do not go to a fortuneteller.
  • Dima67
    Dima67 25 March 2013 09: 46 New
    +3
    Guys. And it doesn’t bother anyone that if a BIG Sabantuy begins, where those who invest all their capital in European banks will disappear. After all, like all local wars, our guys will endure simple well, and we have not reached the deadline. In short, it seems to me that, as always, we will end up in a duplex. Avse our screamers in chocolate. And nefig to keep money abroad. Although their own can be convinced that my mother is not grieving.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 25 March 2013 09: 46 New
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?

    Do you think that this money worked for the good of the country and all the people? Taxes were paid from them, deductions were made to the state treasury? If not, then I'm sorry. It seems to me that in this way they prepare an excuse for the people if it is necessary to take "hot measures". Otherwise, go explain to people that they must fight for the interests of the capitalists who stole money from the same people!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      Do you think that this money worked for the good of the country and the whole people? Taxes were paid from them, deductions to the state treasury were made?

      Funds transferred by state-owned companies and they are taxable and now, in addition to what they paid here, they will be shaken there.
  • 30143
    30143 25 March 2013 10: 20 New
    +4
    No, this money does not work in Russia !!!
  • Gluxar_
    Gluxar_ 26 March 2013 03: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?

    Well, that’s said aloud. Moreover, we are talking about 5-6 billion. What else is interesting is the legal consequences, it is interesting to read a typical agreement on cash settlement or on fixed-term deposits. Is this generally legal? Then they will not get tired of paying legal claims, and they will have to sell the island.
  • esaul
    esaul 25 March 2013 09: 27 New
    +8
    Quote: ATATA
    our lesson in power as equal partners?

    Alexey hi I have no misconceptions about our lessons. I will repeat myself - apart from the stolen grandmothers, there is very little capital and state structures (the normal practice between states is mutual investment), but having carried out such a demarche, the Cypriots are under pressure from the EU (this is where the hidden enemy is, ready to stab in the back and at a joint holiday table!) headed by Germany, once again spat in Russia itself. And you cannot forget and forgive this. Therefore, here our leadership also played along by playing the card of protection of "Russian deposits", but, in fact, did not take radical measures. no one is going to butt for urkin money. Maybe this will encourage some to return money to the Russian economy.
    I somehow perceive your phrase ambiguously
    Quote: ATATA
    why on earth will the European elite perceive our lesson in power as equal

    It seems that their elite is entirely honest entrepreneurs, of high moral principles. Well no ! They are the same URKI, they are only used to being much more cynical and often cover up their theft with beautiful words. Take a look at the latest corruption scandals - Lagarde, Sarkozy, etc ....
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 43 New
      12
      Quote: esaul
      in addition to stolen attendants there is very little capital and government agencies

      No, not normal. When I have money, it’s normal when they are in my pocket, and not in the pocket of my even best friend.
      So sorry Valery, but I can’t agree either.
      And it would be better for Mr. Surkov to keep quiet, otherwise I have already begun to forget, so no, the "sovereign democrat" got in with hints about the 3rd world war.
      No shame or conscience!
      Such a country has been dragged away, and now, for their crumbs stolen from the people, these bloodsuckers are ready to throw people into the 3rd world.
      Evil is not enough!
      1. Dima67
        Dima67 25 March 2013 09: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: ATATA
        Quote: esaul
        in addition to stolen attendants there is very little capital and government agencies

        No, not normal. When I have money, it’s normal when they are in my pocket, and not in the pocket of my even best friend.
        So sorry Valery, but I can’t agree either.
        And it would be better for Mr. Surkov to keep quiet, otherwise I have already begun to forget, so no, the "sovereign democrat" got in with hints about the 3rd world war.
        No shame or conscience!
        Such a country has been dragged away, and now, for their crumbs stolen from the people, these bloodsuckers are ready to throw people into the 3rd world.
        Evil is not enough!
        I agree with you very much!
    2. alexng
      alexng 25 March 2013 11: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: esaul
      It seems that their elite is entirely honest entrepreneurs, of high moral principles. Well no ! They are the same URKI, they are only used to being much more cynical and often cover up their theft with beautiful words.


      We call a rollback in the guise of corruption, and they have a bonus and it is quite legal, but the essence of this does not change. So they have a legalized cut of the dough - "Mama, don't worry."
  • 30143
    30143 25 March 2013 10: 19 New
    +4
    There is a silver lining. "Keep your money in a savings bank" And Putin warned. However, the paper had to be invested in the development of production, infrastructure and housing and communal services, and the defense industry.
    By the way, they stole this money, and now they stole it. Everything is logical.
  • rolik
    rolik 25 March 2013 17: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: ATATA
    Yes, a bow to the Europeans for this action. May God grant them health!

    I absolutely agree with that. Maybe that's why the GDP did not begin to help Cyprus in order to teach lesson particularly cunning business geniuses. so that they already understand that with a large zugunderder, offshore companies are a chicken that you can easily kill (in Europe and the USA) and, at its expense (at the expense of smart businessmen), live on.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 20: 58 New
      +4
      I have a wild suspicion that assistance would be provided on the condition of disclosing information about the amount of the amounts of Russian depositors in the accounts.
      Looks did not grow together ...
  • Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 08: 46 New
    17
    esaul
    Quote: esaul
    Everyone - salute

    You, too, do not get sick.
    Article minus. Again, everything is upside down, with the "exact" date of the beginning of the third world war. wassat

    Quote: esaul
    2. The European leaders are still without shame and conscience ready to rob anyone to support themselves
    This phrase is yours.
    But the author wrote: "I will give a simple example from life. Imagine, dear reader, that you and your family - your wife, children, mistresses, servants and other people dependent on you, live on the rent that you receive from your own capital. And here, someone suddenly comes from and takes all the annual rent from you. Your capital is dead because it doesn't work. "
    Everything seems to be right, but! Why MY RENT, WITH MY SAME CAPITAL is in a FOREIGN BANK, and even in FOREIGN COUNTRY! ??? And who is it COME SUDDENLY?? These are our rulers, fussed and placed OUR CAPITAL IS TAMA, at THEM. And the rulers received the rent. Which one? Yes ktozh knows them ... Yes, this is with regards to money STATE. Above private capital, it is only possible to JOIN.
    But the author apparently thinks differently: "That is why Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev does not prejudicewhen he says that the money of Russian state structures is blocked in Cyprus and that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is forced to urgently defend himself, ordering the withdrawal of Russian money from foreign banks. Today there is an open attack on Russia without a declaration of war. "
    Without text selection everything is mixed. And so it is - one tells the truth, the second orders. And then before did not know(government), and ORDER could not (Putin) ??? Of course ...
    For the umpteenth time, the country is being blotted into the village of Mo., and then the people are shown, allegedly, heroic attempts for the benefit of the state in the fight against global, evil capital.
    Maybe it's enough already ha. But touching with your hands, then sniffing and saying: "You almost got yourself in trouble"?

    Well, this: "Most likely, March 25, 2013 will be the beginning of the Third World War. " just fool
    Quote: esaul
    Conclusion - it’s not with them to twist shafts and abide by the TRUE gentleman's rules. To observe - only externally, and to do - as it is necessary and beneficial for ourselves.
    And here I agree to all 100%. It is high time.
    1. esaul
      esaul 25 March 2013 09: 04 New
      +5
      hi
      I will not argue about the fact that Cyprus’s money from the EU is periodic handouts to an ungrateful and lazy cousin. And almost all of them are in the pit, and almost all of them are past Russia. If they gave Russia sideways and something, it was only in the form of Cyprus investments in the Russian economy. Only these investments are insignificantly small and their significance is over-exaggerated today in order to push Russia to take active steps to save these grandmothers.
      But the fact that the Cypriots did not receive the expected salvation from Russia in their understanding (and this is the usual - "Give me money!"), Testifies to the fact that the Russian leadership made it very clear that it refuses to save someone else's money by the state, despite "pleas" - "Russia, help!"
      So here Putin is only a plus. I admit that in this situation he pursued a purely pragmatic goal - either to provide an unsinkable aircraft carrier for Russia, or to tidy up the Cypriot shelves, or both. The Cypriots did not want (or were afraid to shout from the states) to provide either one or the other and therefore returned - with nothing.
      Well, with the fact that the author tried to pull under the article a horror story about the war - I agree. Fashionable topic for today.
      1. DERWISH
        DERWISH 25 March 2013 09: 35 New
        +6
        absolutely accurate conclusion! the money is clearly not working for the economy of RUSSIA and for the good, so let them keep accounts in RUSSIA !!! I agree with you on everything 100 +++
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 10: 07 New
        +8
        esaul
        Quote: esaul
        But, the fact that the Cypriots did not receive from Russia the expected salvation in their understanding (and this is the usual - "Give me money!"), testifies to the fact that what is the Russian leadership perfectly made it clear that saving someone else's money by state - refuses


        Quote: esaul
        So here Putin is only a plus.

        Valery. Well, you do not follow all this booth, even out of the corner of your eye?
        What is the plus to Putin? Money Russia I COULD NOT to give. The EU has its own rules. And an outside state cannot, in some cases, in any way "fit" into their common economy. This is their sovereignty, economic. Putin, perhaps, wanted to give, and went to deals with some shelves, by the way, unprofitable for Russia, and the territories are disputed with Turkey. But it cannot, NOT... Otherwise, the "stench" from the EU would be hundreds of times more. I am not even talking about the economic consequences for Russia. Plus - we are now in the WTO. Thanks again to Putin.
        It's too late to drink Borjomi ... And on the shelves ... It was no use giving your own shit to the Norwegians, who in a year found there reserves for 30 billion rubles, not rubles. Who thanks for that? Oh yes, neither Medvedev nor Putin could have imagined that the Kemsk Volost would be so "promising" ...
        1. esaul
          esaul 25 March 2013 18: 33 New
          +1
          ZAM (4)

          Anton hi
          Without unnecessary bukOFF, I will give a short answer to your separate "killer" accusations;
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          What is the plus to Putin?

          It is not pleasant for you to hear this, but it is he who pulls the country out of the pit into which its predecessors drove. I hasten to warn your phrase - he was not a shooter in the crowd of corrals.
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Plus - we are now in the WTO. Thanks again to Putin.

          For Putin, as reality has shown, to be a member of the WTO and to strictly observe the rules of the WTO are somewhat different concepts


          [b] [b] Russia was allowed not to comply with WTO rules in the diamond trade [/ b] [/ b]

          [b] http://www.1prime.ru/Retail/20130121/760633271.html [/ b]

          [[b] b] S. Lavrov: Russia will not assume obligations beyond those agreed upon by the WTO in an agreement with the European Union. [/ b] [/ b]

          http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/156134-slavrov-rossiya-ne-primet-na-sebya-o


          byazatelstva-sverh-soglasovannyh-po-vto-v-soglashenii-s-evrosoyuzom.html
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          It was not their horseradish to give to the Norwegians, who over the year found reserves there for 30 billion not green rubles. Thank you for that?

          [b] [b] The Arctic - whose piece is fatter [/ b] [/ b]

          http://mikle1.livejournal.com/3198116.html

          [b] Reports that the Russian authorities “donated” to Norway oil and gas fields in the Barents Sea are an ordinary lie. The following is a demarcation map that clearly demonstrates the usual compromise. Moreover, the point is not that Russia donated its territory.
          The Russian authorities were aware of large hydrocarbon reserves. The territory of the disputed section that has left Russia contains reserves of 4,7 billion tons of oil equivalent (more than 33 billion barrels of oil equivalent). And those who left to Norway - about 300 million cubic meters of oil equivalent (1,9 billion barrels of oil equivalent). 85 percent of these reserves are gas, 15 percent is oil.
          The dispute between Norway and the USSR arose in the 1970 years in connection with the emergence in international law of institutions of an exclusive economic zone and the continental shelf. Until that moment, all the seas and oceans, minus a narrow strip of territorial waters (maximum - 12 nautical miles from the coast) were open for economic activity of any country. But in the 70 years, states began to establish 200-mile economic zones, in which the coastal country received a preferential right to fish and other biological resources and established its own national fishing rules. And for the purpose of extracting resources from the bottom of the sea (primarily oil and gas), the division of the continental shelf also began - the bottom of the seas and oceans, which is a geological continuation of the continents and sometimes extends even further than 200 miles from the coast. [/ B]
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Z.A.M.
      And they didn’t know before (the government), and they could NOT ORDER (Putin) ??? Of course ...
      drinks good
    3. Normal
      Normal 25 March 2013 14: 19 New
      +2
      Z.A.M.
      Greetings, Anton.
      And here is what I noticed in this quote:
      I will give a simple example from life. Imagine, dear reader, that you and your family — wife, children, mistresses, servants, and other people dependent on you — live on the rent that you receive from your own capital. And here, someone suddenly comes from the side and takes away from you the entire annual rent. Your capitals are dead because they do not work.

      Wife, lover, owner of capital himself live on rent, do not work. At the same time they have a servant, they want a new fur coat, etc. It is proposed to put yourself in the place of this rentier.
      But it doesn’t work out for me, well, no matter how! How can I not understand how (of course, quite legally) such modest capital was acquired and how he ended up in offshore.
      You see the capital - whether it will not work. Therefore, the third world war.
      Probably it's time for these "capitalists" and rentiers to provide the pick in their hands and the amount of work.
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 15: 40 New
        +3
        Normal
        Volodya, I, too, probably (though I doubt it already), is normal.
        I didn't even pay attention to the "rentier" ... Do you see how the brains "powder"? That is, this is already, like, the norm - to live on interest ... Yes, ssss, we survived.
        Why do I doubt whether I am normal? .. So many pi ... s, ur..v ... traitors ... What are you just starting to doubt - who is LIVING right now? PEOPLE or freaks.
        To you - hi
        1. esaul
          esaul 25 March 2013 18: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. (Xnumx)


          Anton, I’m wondering, and who, in your opinion, from our current political heavyweights deserves to be at the helm? After all, it’s easy to say that only fools and thieves are in power - this is not a tricky and crafty thing ... Tell me at least who can make a real alternative to Putin who is so scolded by you? hi
    4. mnn_13
      mnn_13 25 March 2013 21: 35 New
      +2
      The war began on September 11 and has not stopped since then, but the fact is that many people do not understand this ...
  • Castor oil
    Castor oil 25 March 2013 09: 44 New
    +3
    Quote: esaul
    Conclusion - it’s not with them to twist shafts and abide by the TRUE gentleman's rules. To observe - only externally, and to do - as it is necessary and beneficial for ourselves.

    Not so long ago, who wrote about the European "rules", I will quote:
    "European gentlemen play by the gentleman's rules, and if the gentlemen start to lose, they immediately change the rules!" (from)
    So - well, them to the demons of these "gentlemen" with their "rules" negative
  • dark_65
    dark_65 25 March 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    Types of tax jurisdictions

    Currently, there are three types of tax jurisdictions:

    Here are the main characteristics of all types of tax jurisdictions:
    Tax haven tax havens Low tax areas High tax jurisdictions with special tax regimes
    Full exemption from taxation of operating activities Exemption from taxation of certain types of income Availability of legislative features to minimize taxes on certain types of activities
    Payment of the annual fixed fee Preferential taxation of the main types of income Preferential taxation of the passive types of income
    Reporting exemption Reporting and auditing mandatory
    Optional internal document management of the company Availability of double taxation avoidance agreements
    Lack of access to company registration data Public (limited) and professional (full) access to company registration data
    We also list the most popular jurisdictions related to each of the categories:

    Tax havens Low tax areas High tax jurisdictions with special tax regimes
    British Virgin Islands Cyprus United Kingdom
    Seychelles Hong Kong Switzerland
    Belize Singapore Luxembourg
    Dominica UAE (Dubai) Liechtenstein
    Panama Uruguay Netherlands
    Mauritius USA
    Cayman Islands Hungary
    Bahamas Estonia
    UAE (Ras Al Khaimah)
    Liberia
    Gibraltar
    Strait Islands (Jersey, Guernsey)
    Samoa


    Explain to me why, in the twenty years of the banking sector, not a damn has been created, even similar to the institution of bank officers, why the adopted SWIFT system does not work? Why all the transfers are not put on the stop, but continue to drip past the country ?.
    I understand very little in this area, just as a manager of production by education. Money will always run, so make it spin here, it's not difficult, well, for what NMLK to keep accounts in Cyprus? For quick transfers? For clipboards companies? for what ?.
    And the money is even worse ... in the 90s, well, it’s not a pity, they should work, no matter where. And to sit like rats there, and eat, roughly speaking ours, no, not a pity.
    The transparency of European business is far from perfect, but ours is simply thicket impassable.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 25 March 2013 12: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: dark_65
      Explain to me why, in the twenty years of the banking sector, not a damn has been created, even similar to the institution of bank officers, why does the adopted SWIFT system not work?

      You are a little off topic, therefore - a little mistaken. I will try to explain in a simpler way (do not exact it):
      By the number of SWIFT users - about 550 at present - Russia is second only to the United States (more than 650 users generating 17,6% of the total SWIFT traffic). But in terms of traffic, our country provides only about 0,8% of the total SWIFT traffic and is not even among the “twenty” leading SWIFT users. The lagging behind the USA and Great Britain - more than 20 times, from Spain, Canada, Norway and South Africa - about 2 times.
      The reasons:
      1) in Russia, SWIFT is not used for infrastructure projects of the financial industry (if at least 10% of payments are transferred to the Bank of Russia BESP system via the SWIFT network, then at least a doubling of the country's traffic will occur).
      2) The dominant part of the Russian SWIFT traffic throughout the entire period belongs to payments - more than 75%. The share of the securities market is less than 10% of traffic, while in the world this indicator exceeds 35%.
      3) The market for corporate clients: of the more than 600 corporations represented in SWIFT, only 2 are Russian. Those. the development of the securities market and the involvement of corporations may become “growth points” among Russian SWIFT users.
      It would seem that the reasons are known, conclusions can be drawn and ways found, but it wasn’t here: we must not forget that the SWIFT headquarters are in Brussels (interesting geography, isn't it?).
      In addition, the world "securities market" is a soap bubble with all sorts of derivatives and other things. It has already reached the point that SWIFT messages МТ103 and МТ799 have become banking instruments for use in lending - neither more nor less. Those. capital movement takes place on the basis of banks' "air" communications (and not on the basis of production and movement of goods).
      Something like that, briefly.
      Regarding "bank officers" - do not be like small-breds, in Russia the term "officer" has a completely different meaning and should not be applied to servants (since banks are a service sector). Why is the name "employees" bad for you?
      1. dark_65
        dark_65 26 March 2013 15: 55 New
        0
        thank you.
  • kris
    kris 25 March 2013 11: 03 New
    +8
    Messrs. forum users.
    question on the topic.
    WHOSE OF YOU MONEY IN CYPRUS LIES?

    how much can you talk about this radish.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 11: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: kris
      WHOSE OF YOU MONEY IN CYPRUS LIES?
      put "+" I have not.
      1. Dima67
        Dima67 25 March 2013 12: 41 New
        +3
        And really answer who suffered from this Cyprus. I don’t have time to get to the cross on my belly for the salvor’s salary. The current reaches the nearest stores and so on.
  • mnn_13
    mnn_13 25 March 2013 11: 35 New
    +2
    The European leaders are still without shame and conscience ready to rob anyone to support themselves

    All the same, it seems to me here they made a mistake. Robbing peacefully in Bulgaria or not only in a civilized way in Libya and Iraq is one thing and Russia is another thing.
    1. Dima67
      Dima67 25 March 2013 12: 43 New
      0
      Quote: mnn_13
      The European leaders are still without shame and conscience ready to rob anyone to support themselves

      All the same, it seems to me here they made a mistake. Robbing peacefully in Bulgaria or not only in a civilized way in Libya and Iraq is one thing and Russia is another thing.

      For the West, we are the same current with a long loaf.
  • Babon
    Babon 25 March 2013 12: 51 New
    +1
    I also watched the meeting between Medvedev and Barroso, it is clear that the answer is that according to the expression, like some kind of Russia is still climbing somewhere, and offers something without asking them. It is evident that he simply did not understand this, some proposals from Russia. And here is his phrase, although I am in Moscow, but the complete feeling that I am in a European city. Did he think that he flew to Australia?
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 25 March 2013 14: 26 New
    +3
    "The official announcement that the Russians' money will be taken away and divided up in the same way as the Sarajevo shots in 1914." -How beautifully the rulers who kept the stolen goods in Cyprus put Russia and Russians under the hammers. What do Russians have to do with our Cypriots in general? How to steal money, so no one remembered about the Russians, and how they stole the stolen, so all the Russians were offended? Type now take Russian submachine guns and go defend what we have stolen. Figu you thieves all over the hara!
    "European leaders are still ready to rob anyone without shame and conscience to support themselves - loved ones" - and ours is better? Our population has been constantly plundered since the collapse of the USSR.
    So do not be fooled by the comrades at the cries of robbed state thieves!
    http://demotivation.me/zw9c0ja3agxlpic.html#.UVA1gzfvtSM
    1. kris
      kris 25 March 2013 14: 41 New
      0
      Quote: S_mirnov

      "The official announcement that the Russians' money will be taken away and divided up in the same way as the Sarajevo shots in 1914." -How beautifully the rulers who kept the stolen goods in Cyprus put Russia and Russians under the hammers. What do Russians have to do with our Cypriots in general? How to steal money, so no one remembered about the Russians, and how they stole the stolen, so all the Russians were offended? Type now take Russian submachine guns and go defend what we have stolen. Figu you thieves all over the hara!
      "European leaders are still ready to rob anyone without shame and conscience to support themselves - loved ones" - and ours is better? Our population has been constantly plundered since the collapse of the USSR.
      So do not be fooled by the comrades at the cries of robbed state thieves!
      http://demotivation.me/zw9c0ja3agxlpic.html#.UVA1gzfvtSM



      if only Cyprus would publish a list of Russian investors, indicating the amounts!
      It would become clear who the Kremlin was harnessed to.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 25 March 2013 15: 13 New
        +1
        This is a state secret!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 21: 04 New
          +4
          I think that VVP was about this and tried to "grind" with the Cypriot
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 25 March 2013 14: 36 New
    +4
    The article is custom. Smells a mile away. Especially liked

    What is called the “Russian mafia” and “oligarchs” in the mass consciousness is, in fact, an instrument of Russian politics in the conditions after the 1991 year.

    Something I do not recall RUSSIAN policies when shopping for Chelsea, basketball clubs and yachts on eight decks. And none of my friends guarded these yachts to Spain or mowed the lawn for Chelsea in the UK did not invite ...
    The fat-fledged ones began to fuss, they wanted to fight for their money with the wrong hands.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 11 New
    19
    Today in the morning I read this article on the Military Materials ........ a lot of crap, but there is constructive. But this ..........
    . For America, this war will take place on the screens of UAV operators, but in Eurasia it will be a traditional meat grinder. After all, Russia and China have nothing that can break through the American missile defense system, and they don’t have time for strategic deployment either,
    The man had seen enough cartoons about Reigan's "Star Wars" and now he has inserted his opinion into an article about the invincibility of the Pentagon. Many journalists in 1941 also wrote about the invincibility of the Wehrmacht and that the USSR could not oppose anything, but it turned out.
    As regards finances, Putin didn’t do it with his finger, and recalling that he had already talked about the possibility of such a turn of events in 2002, I think there’s a cure for Western fools. We don’t criticize him, but the West always finds himself in fools hi
    1. mda
      mda 25 March 2013 10: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The man has seen enough cartoons about "Star Wars" Reigan and has now inserted his opinion into an article about the invincibility of the Pentagon

      It seems to me that the author simply does not know about "Satan".
    2. Natalia
      Natalia 25 March 2013 10: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      .Since we do not criticize him, and in the fools the West is constantly

      I agree with 101,5% good
      And Germany starts the war against Russia again ...... neither some people study nor want to learn .... they have seen enough of the American kin, or they are tearing the roof off from greed, you're talking about anomalies to him and he’s swag to you ..... neither they don’t want to think about except the grandmas, until the guts are scattered across the branches .....
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 12: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Natalia
        the roof is torn from greed, you tell him about anomalies and he tells you swag

        good hi
    3. JonnyT
      JonnyT 25 March 2013 11: 12 New
      -1
      Gazprom Europe will take revenge!)
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 25 March 2013 11: 23 New
        0
        Quote: JonnyT
        Gazprom Europe will take revenge!)

        By the way, as an option .... lol yes
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 11: 39 New
        +6
        It is necessary to have a wild imagination to hope for GAZPROM - a state corporation, a monopolist.
        Rather, we will increase gas tariffs in a hurry to compensate for unplanned losses.
        As it is with Slepakov: ".. I want to be a shareholder of GAZPROM ...".
        1. Natalia
          Natalia 25 March 2013 11: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          It is necessary to have a wild imagination that hopes for GAZPROM

          I'd rather have wild imagination and hope than like you following the example of Beryuzovsky
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 12: 16 New
            +4
            You have an obvious "inferiority complex" ....
            Comparing me with BAB without knowing me as such is a sign of an unbalanced psyche.
            And my advice to you: do not repeat so often "... I am better ...".
            No one will get better from such words. drinks
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 25 March 2013 12: 47 New
              -4
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              You have an obvious "inferiority complex" ....
              Comparing me with BAB without knowing me as such is a sign of an unbalanced psyche.

              And YOU clearly has a brain full of substances from the toilet, because apart from the next TROLL on this site ...... I can’t name you.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 13: 12 New
                +4
                Auntie !!!
                Well, I didn’t seem to write obscene things.
                Tried to agree normally .... Looks like fate .... Sorrow ...

                In general, so.

                Change gasket
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 25 March 2013 13: 53 New
                  -2
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Well, I didn’t seem to write obscene things.

                  Like Mavrode, you wrote everything ...... you are just a TROLL, and zero.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 21: 09 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Natalia
                    Like Mavrode, you wrote everything ...... you are just a TROLL, and zero.

                    Dear Goblin In Thong!
                    I recommend you not to confuse your bazooka with dildo.
                    Otherwise, instead of a gynecologist, you will have to contact a proctologist
                    hi
                    1. Natalia
                      Natalia 25 March 2013 21: 56 New
                      -4
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Dear Goblin In Thong!

                      ...... I'm telling you TROLL
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 22: 03 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Natalia
                        ...... I'm telling you TROLL


                        ... change the shit and words
                      2. Natalia
                        Natalia 25 March 2013 22: 06 New
                        0
                        Quote: Natalia
                        Dear Goblin In Thong, I recommend that you do not confuse your bazooka with dildo. Otherwise, instead of a gynecologist, you will have to contact a proctologist

                        Based on the above comments .... then how you understand lingerie, feminine hygiene and women's problems, suggests that you are not a complete man winked lol
                    2. Natalia
                      Natalia 25 March 2013 22: 09 New
                      -1
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      I recommend you not to confuse your bazooka with dildo. Otherwise, instead of a gynecologist, you will have to contact a proctologist

                      Based on the above comments, the way you understand lingerie, feminine hygiene (even know when to change your panty liners) and women's problems mmmmdaaa, it suggests that you are not quite a man ..... here winked lol
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 22: 30 New
                        +4
                        Lord !!!

                        I ask you, you calm down this mug that is thrown by the husband!
                      2. Natalia
                        Natalia 25 March 2013 22: 35 New
                        -2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        I ask you, you calm down this mug that is thrown by the husband!

                        lol .... yes no no that you have a husband, thank God)
                        And you? laughing ...... you also have a campaign, because as I said, you are well versed in everything feminine lol
                        No, well, if there is no husband, then what are your years))))
                      3. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 22: 48 New
                        +6
                        Thank you for the fact that once again I didn’t remember a bad word ...
                        Adieu and goodbye
                        drinks
                      4. Natalia
                        Natalia 25 March 2013 22: 50 New
                        -2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Thank you for the fact that once again I didn’t remember a bad word ...

                        Skinny words are just a response ... behave decently and not any problems.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 25 March 2013 13: 25 New
    +2
    Fantasy I have violent agree, but that's just whose money was stolen ???? Thieves oligarchs, and they are all from Gazprom, Rosneft and so on. Now, so that the losses beat the prices of raw materials for Europe, they’ll raise it
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 13: 40 New
      +4
      Well, not so simple.
      It is impossible to raise prices overnight - supply contracts are concluded ahead of time (see the history of gas for Ukraine).
      But we, Russian consumers, can be given a "surprise".
      And in fact, Europe is urgently trying to reduce gas supplies from Russia - here is a wild mix of ideology with hopes for shale gas from the United States.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      It is necessary to have a wild imagination to hope for GAZPROM - a state corporation, a monopolist.
      Rather, we will increase gas tariffs in a hurry to compensate for unplanned losses.
      As it is with Slepakov: ".. I want to be a shareholder of GAZPROM ...".
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 25 March 2013 15: 25 New
        +2
        I will agree with contracts and agreements ...... but the words on paper can be interpreted differently. If the agreement there is the same as our laws in the legal field, then they can come up with a cunning scheme with a solid .... .... European consumer ........ Europe will not go anywhere - they tightly fit on an oil and gas needle, it’s bad Of course, it’s not winter now (but it’s not sunbathing) ...... mythical shale gas or alternative energy sources do not help (For example, a windmill station was launched in Holland - so now they have one loss) Another thing is that our thieves fear for others accounts and property beyond the hillock, and can deprive the remaining stolen, and even receptions inviting foreign cease - and live well like! Therefore, I partly agree with you that it will be difficult for an ordinary consumer of energy resources in Russia, but not now ........... However, our thieves will not forget this, will take revenge, they will certainly get revenge. Here, not only financial interests are affected, pride and pride are hurt ....... Another option of revenge is the rejection of European integration and fraternization with China, instead of European goods there will be Asian-Chinese, but here is the problem, the quality of European goods and the level their scientific development is much higher than the Chinese ........
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 17: 25 New
          +5
          I agree on almost all points ...
          1. Wind turbines are an unprofitable option from an economic point of view. On the way from the sea to Amsterdam (Ijmuiden). at Copenhagen in the straits, there are "clouds" of these modern wind turbines. The pilot is briefly explained: "Dust in the eyes." Therefore, the Nordic countries are now "running into" hi-tech in the field of "keeping heat in rooms", "houses of the future".
          2. From my point of view, it is practically impossible to rewrite or otherwise interpret contracts. To revise towards lower / higher prices - this is where Miller's expanse is under the supervision of GDP: economic wars are better than real ones ... But shale gas is a carrot for Europe. Many experts know that the technology of shale gas extraction is associated with the ingress of "chemicals" into the underground waters, which are supplied to all settlements. well, almost everything. Those. - again problems with the environment. And we are smoothly returning to the topic of trust of the old woman of Europe from today's Russia.
          3. Brotherhood with the current China will result, at best, in the Chinese Confederation, where Russia will always be on the sidelines (Austria-Hungary in today's version). Mindful of the fact that the USSR was de jure dismembered by lively dermatocrats who did not want to be the last lads in the city, but the first in the village, the current leadership does not even think of such a step. But there are prerequisites that we ourselves will come with requests ... God grant that this does not happen.
          In general, today we have a monstrously complex world equation with a bunch of floating variables. And no analyst will give a forecast with confidence more than 25%.
  • nokki
    nokki 25 March 2013 08: 12 New
    12
    After all, Russia and China have nothing that can break through the American missile defense system, and they don’t have time for strategic deployment either.

    I can't believe my eyes! Mr. Surkov! And "Satan"? And the nuclear missile carriers? One salvo from the nuclear submarine is enough to leave one memory of America! I'm shocked!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 17 New
      +8
      Quote: nokki
      I'm shocked!

      You’re in shock, and Surkov is under the hood, he wrote hell knows that laughing
      1. alexng
        alexng 25 March 2013 08: 25 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You’re in shock, and Surkov is under the hood, he wrote hell knows that


        At Surkov's "The roof is quietly rustling with a slate." One was caught up by a virtual ice ax (Berezovsky) and on this basis another one went off the coils. Groundhog day, however.
        1. Normal
          Normal 25 March 2013 14: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: nokki
          I can’t believe my eyes! Mr. Surkov!

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          You’re in shock, and Surkov is under the hood, he wrote hell knows that

          Quote: alexneg
          At Surkov's "The roof goes quietly with slate rustling slowly".

          Most likely Surkov really got on the headstock. Maybe he even thumped, maybe the roof is tearing. Who knows? But the fact that Surkov is a little more informed about the capabilities of our Armed Forces than all the commentators present together, I think, of course. They up there after Libya, a serious concern arose.
          The only question is how much he is lying and how real is what he writes about.
      2. ATATA
        ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You’re in shock, and Surkov is under the hood, he wrote hell knows that

        If the Europeans took the money from Surkov, then thank them very much for this and a bow. There is someone else to restore justice for ordinary people.
        IMHO
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 25 March 2013 08: 12 New
    12
    Yes, if Cyprus begins to excite our officials just hang. So many works of the righteous they spent robbing their own country, now they are robbing them! How interesting is it to me to rejoice?
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 25 March 2013 08: 16 New
      +9
      I don’t think there was a lot of honestly earned money from
      Russia.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      How interesting is it, is it interesting for me to rejoice?

      in addition to personal contributions, there is money from state and companies. So what is robbed of some officials holding their money in Cyprus is one thing, but the other is that they try not to give a damn about Russia, just taking the money like a scumbag on the street. Will you be happy?
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 25 March 2013 08: 47 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        that they don’t give a damn about trying to wipe their feet — just taking the money like a scumbag on the street. Will you be glad?

        This money is from our officials, it is not necessary to show Russia in their person, they are not worth it. One thief is robbing another.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 11 New
          +2
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          This money of our officials, it’s not necessary to show Russia in their person,

          Including our corporations !!! You don’t understand what you are writing about, you got stuck on the officials and thieves and don’t even understand what it means to take the money ..................................... they will not be taken from the officials, but from Russia !!!
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            they will not be taken from officials, namely from Russia !!!

            It was our officials who had long since taken this money from Russia, when they took it offshore. Ida I agree justice must triumph. Those on whose instructions the money was transferred to someone else's jurisdiction must be judged.
            And these are our officials. So they need to stand on end.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 35 New
              +5
              Quote: ATATA
              . Ida I agree justice must triumph.

              Justice is when our government itself takes the stolen goods from us! And here is a simple robbery. Moreover, not only the accounts of the stealing officials will be robbed, but also the money settled in the form of transfers for transactions with millions of losses. If they have a ride now, then they will be pulling Greece, Spain, Italy, etc. from Russian money and will you say it fair
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 50 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Justice is when our government itself takes the stolen goods from us!

                Eco has incurred you ?! And I did not steal, although all was robbed.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And here is a simple robbery

                No it's not a simple robbery, it's
                Expropriation from expropriators.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 21 New
                  +2
                  Quote: ATATA
                  And I didn’t steal, although all was robbed

                  You are one team with the EU wink
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Expropriation from expropriators.

                  Oh well
                  1. ATATA
                    ATATA 25 March 2013 10: 53 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You are one team with the EU

                    I'm on my team. And then those guys whose money the EU froze in Cyprus, they are definitely not on my team.
                    But you, Alexander, still seem to be in this team. laughing
          2. Cheloveck
            Cheloveck 25 March 2013 09: 33 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Including our corporations !!!

            And what, corporations do not steal?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: Cheloveck

              And what, corporations do not steal?

              funds withdrawn from transactions and the like have already been taxed in Russia, and now they are really robbed.
          3. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 13: 49 New
            0
            our state corporations did not keep money there, offshore was used only for operations!
          4. PrikVO 84-86
            PrikVO 84-86 25 March 2013 15: 59 New
            0
            Deposits only. Russian deposits - the so-called stub. funds - stored in other banks. Very reliable American banks. When they throw it at the grandmother, you will also say "how can that be? They promised!" ?
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 25 March 2013 08: 56 New
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        in addition to personal contributions, there is money from state and companies. So what is robbed of some officials holding their money in Cyprus is one thing, but the other is that they try not to give a damn about Russia, just taking the money like a scumbag on the street. Will you be happy?

        No, but can anyone explain why state-owned companies keep money in Cyprus?
        Or they are only called state-owned companies, but in fact, who knows?
        Why is it so hooked Surkova that began to compare with the first world?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: baltika-18

          No, but can anyone explain why state-owned companies keep money in Cyprus?

          In the morning, infa passed through the Foreign Ministry that Putin ordered all state-owned companies to urgently withdraw money from all foreign banks, there is no confirmation, no rebuttal, no, so far.
          For explanations again to Putin hi
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 25 March 2013 09: 21 New
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            For explanations again to Putin

            I'm in them, Sasha, disappointed.
            They all went with their explanations to hell.
            I will not increase from their explanations, that's for sure. hi
          2. ATATA
            ATATA 25 March 2013 10: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In the morning, infa passed through the Foreign Ministry that Putin ordered all state-owned companies to urgently withdraw money from all foreign banks

            And 590 yards of $$$ from a kuda stub fund? shot can not believe laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: ATATA
              A 590 yards $$$

              Listen to what you grind - give the data that 590 billion are stored in dollars. Valuation is in dollars, but this does not mean that everything is stored in dollars.
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 25 March 2013 12: 33 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Listen to what you grind - give the data that 590 billion are stored in dollars. Valuation is in dollars, but this does not mean that everything is stored in dollars.

                So me "I'm grinding" as you put it not because they are in bucks, or in euros, but because they are outside the jurisdiction of Russia, abroad and can again be trite selected.
                Is that not clear?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 13: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ATATA
                  but because they are outside the jurisdiction of Russia, abroad, and can again be banally selected.

                  Specifically, where and how much do you name
                  1. ATATA
                    ATATA 25 March 2013 13: 52 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Specifically, where and how much do you name

                    Specifically in Cyprus. I don’t know how much. This is a good precedent.
                    If you can, then why not 590 yards? That will explain why not?
            2. baltika-18
              baltika-18 25 March 2013 13: 39 New
              0
              Quote: ATATA
              And 590 yards of $$$ from a kuda stub fund? shot can not believe

              As of February 1, 2012, the Stabilization Fund had 112 billion dollars.

              In 2007, the Stabilization Fund had 132 billion dollars.
              If we take the percentage of allotted deductions from GDP for these years from 2007, we get about 600 billion dollars.
              The fact is that statistics on the stabilization fund are open only until 2007. Next, only the verification data from the beginning of 2012.
              It seems to me that they just stole it elementarily. And they wanted to hide behind by creating an AO and giving it to private management.
              1. ATATA
                ATATA 25 March 2013 13: 54 New
                0
                Quote: baltika-18
                It seems to me that he was simply stolen

                It is possible that if the money abroad, then how to check? There German gold after the hurricane cow, I licked my tongue! laughing
                mattresses said so, they say, after a hurricane, German gold disappeared request and everything and bribes are smooth. laughing
          3. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 13: 57 New
            0
            from all foreign banks, not from Cyprus. in Cyprus our money was not kept.
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 29 New
          +9
          Quote: baltika-18
          No, but can anyone explain why state-owned companies keep money in Cyprus?

          What you are not understanding!
          So Vladislav Surkov in the article explains in detail.
          I will give a simple example from life. Imagine, dear reader, that you and your family — wife, children, mistresses, servants, and other people dependent on you — live on the rent that you receive from your own capital. And here, someone suddenly comes from the side and takes away from you the entire annual rent. Your capitals are dead because they do not work.

          Nikolai, didn’t you read the article carefully?
          And this urka even did not hesitate to write about lovers, but forgot about the people! Although no, we are probably a servant!
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 25 March 2013 10: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: ATATA
            And this urka even did not hesitate to write about lovers, but forgot about the people! Although no, we are probably a servant!

            Thank you, Alex, for the clarification.
            Paskudnik he actually .......
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 25 March 2013 18: 07 New
            0
            And this urka even did not hesitate to write about lovers, but forgot about the people! Although no, we are probably a servant!

            Well, he specifically described our actions ...
            ... and the servants will revolt against you ...

            So the boyars are returning or have already returned in the minds of our pseudo-elite ...
        3. avt
          avt 25 March 2013 10: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: baltika-18
          Or they are only called state-owned companies, but in fact, who knows?
          Why is it so hooked Surkova that began to compare with the first world?

          So here one more moment looms when the garbage can is opened, all hidden gosyuki will light up, you will immediately see who, where and in what shares is floating in corporations and property. That's why the groundhog day came and boiled water from the tap. laughing After all, it often happens, the snake wakes up when it's scary and frightening sounds from the throat are torn. laughing
        4. PrikVO 84-86
          PrikVO 84-86 25 March 2013 16: 02 New
          0
          Because these thieves were hooked on the most sensitive - for the money. That’s how they squeal like undercut pigs.
      3. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 09: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        in addition to personal contributions,there is state money, companies

        Alexander hi А WHO Where are the money squeezed by state-owned companies? And for what? Some time ago, Putin about everything offshore said something it’s true, something like, tired of swallowing dust ... Speak, beautifully, said. He spoke correctly. But now he will swallow it himself. It is sad that in a quiet, everything will be transferred to the people. I have no doubt about that ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          And who is the money squeezed by state-owned companies?

          Aleksashenko: As far as I know, neither the Central Bank, nor even the Ministry of Finance are holding money in Cyprus, because Cypriot banks do not qualify for minimum reliability ratings. And the fact that Russian companies and state-owned companies hold money in Cyprus is well known.

          VTB has a subsidiary bank - Russian Commercial Bank. Today there were reports that the accounts of individuals in this bank are 3 billion euros. Well, it’s clear that in the “Russian Commercial Bank” the money is probably not held by Cypriots or Englishmen.

          Journalist: Does the Russian Commercial Bank also have money frozen or not?

          Aleksashenko: Yes, of course. Russian Commercial Bank is a Cypriot resident, all the same restrictions apply to it as to others. VTB is actively serving a bunch of state-owned companies there, from the defense sector to agriculture. And, of course, there one of them could probably participate in various schemes related to the purchase of assets, the sale of assets, the organization of holdings, and money could be stuck there.


          Details here ....... http: //bankiru.livejournal.com/164759.html
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 25 March 2013 10: 01 New
            +3
            I do not quite understand what the phrase means - Russian money in Cyprus. If these are deposits physical. individuals, then, in general, Russia should not give a damn about it. This is a problem for investors. If this is money offshore affiliated with state-owned companies, then, of course, this is worse, BUT, didn’t the money there lay dead weight at 2-3% per annum? Money should work, so some sums froze, but hardly billions of billions. And, if this is so, then the professionalism of managers of state-owned companies is then lower than the plinth.


            And Surkov, to all appearances, just "got" from Cyprus. Now he betrays every blizzard of powerlessness.
      4. PrikVO 84-86
        PrikVO 84-86 25 March 2013 15: 56 New
        0
        It is only about DEPOSITS. That is, about deposits - money given to the bank for profit. And no one talks about the settlement accounts of companies and institutions. No need to shag grandma.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 25 March 2013 16: 26 New
          0
          Well so you think that jur. Can't a person have a deposit? Another thing is that why does he (legal entity) need this. Therefore, I don’t understand the tantrums in the Russian media,
      5. zart_arn
        zart_arn 25 March 2013 17: 24 New
        +1
        If a state-owned company is holding offshore money, then this is already a matter, in the sense, not a business, but a criminal one. wassat
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 12: 05 New
      +4
      It makes no sense to rejoice.
      The system was not very stable, but it worked. With a creak, but it worked.
      Now nimble guys from the EU decided to "lubricate" the machine, but they chose the wrong oil.
      If THIS is a financial cart and roll without brakes, then only in our direction, in the direction of our "relative" well-being.
      Note that the situation coincided in time with the crisis in the eurozone and with the increase (albeit small) in the fight against corruption in Russia.
      Angelka from the GDR could not start this process just like that, like "it happened." Add the nervous bustle of Vitka Ukrainian in recent days.
      I got the impression that the process is MUCH more serious than we can now see. And my head is small ... wassat
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 25 March 2013 12: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        It makes no sense to rejoice.
        The system was not very stable, but it worked. With a creak, but it worked.

        Yes, it worked, but not for us. And now let these real effective turnip managers scratch how to really earn money, and not just stupidly steal from the people and the country.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 17: 34 New
          +4
          What happened was about to happen ...
          About what will happen to the money taken out by any means from Russia from the time of the EBN (what would it be empty for him!), They have been talking about since then. But our homegrown grumblers ALWAYS considered themselves smarter than everyone. But now - the moment of truth has come. A hole in the board of a sinking ship is being closed up with what it is not a pity - the thief stole a lot of money from a thief! hi
      2. zart_arn
        zart_arn 25 March 2013 18: 59 New
        +1
        It seems to me that one of the reasons for the Cyprus default is the United States Foreign Account Tax Law - the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), which came into force on January 1, 2013, which aims to prevent tax evasion among Americans.
        Non-participation of foreign banks in the FATCA may create additional reputational risks for them related to possible sanctions by the IRS (US tax authority) and foreign financial organizations, in particular, in the form of a forced withdrawal of 30% of the amount of international bank transfers.
        Banks and financial institutions that are not involved in this system will be considered in the international community as potentially risky counterparties that may be involved in crimes related to tax evasion, money laundering, obtained by criminal means, etc.
        Simply put, the US is demanding the transparency of its depositors throughout the world. Cypriot banks are well-known darks, so many investors, fearing what happened, began to withdraw their assets from Cyprus - this is what we are seeing today.

        More details: http://bankir.ru/tehnologii/s/zakon-ssha-o-nalogooblozhenii-inostrannykh-schetov
        -fatca-v-rossiiskom-pravovom-pole-10002417 / # ixzz2OZ0T7KQv

        More details: http://bankir.ru/tehnologii/s/zakon-ssha-o-nalogooblozhenii-inostrannykh-schetov
        -fatca-v-rossiiskom-pravovom-pole-10002417 / # ixzz2OYygG92Q
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 25 March 2013 20: 45 New
          +4
          To the point, to the point!
          So the Yankesy put Abramovich in the "TV" ...
          Oh, oh, oh ...
          What will begin right now!
          ESCPROPRIATION of money stolen in Russia around the world.
          The Americans quickly figured out how to replenish the budget !!!
  • Denis
    Denis 25 March 2013 08: 16 New
    +5
    There is no trust in Europe already in Europe itself, all sensible ones are looking towards Russia, it’s good that all this has happened now, all for the better, Russia will cope with this problem, and Europe will no longer be on the road.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: Denis
      Russia will cope with this problem

      What is the problem is that money was taken from our thieves?
    2. Cheloveck
      Cheloveck 25 March 2013 09: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      Russia will cope with this problem

      Yes, it will return all the "victims" of their losses ... this is where it goes ...
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 March 2013 08: 19 New
    +4
    They will take as many as they want: a one-time emergency fee is set at 20% from deposits in excess of 100 thousand euros to Bank of Cyprus, which is the largest bank in the country and the favorite Russian bank. In other banks, a tax of 4% will be removed.

    Nuuu, given that on March 19, Cyprus decided not to introduce any taxes on deposits - it’s hard to underestimate this analytics laughing
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 08: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Nuuu, taking into account the fact that on March 19 Cyprus decided not to introduce any taxes on deposits - this analytics is difficult to underestimate

      Today is already March 25th respected and much has changed.

      Tax on deposits of more than 100 thousand euros in Bank of Cyprus will be up to 30%
  • Sarus
    Sarus 25 March 2013 08: 22 New
    +6
    Here they are Western values ​​and the reliability of their banks ..
    And of course Merkel threw a bag of salt ...
    I can’t even imagine what our response moves will take ...
    PS
    Once again I am convinced that the USSR was a great country ..
    All that is needed was produced on our territory.
    Food weapons household items. I don’t argue much was not world-class .. But we were not dependent on anyone ..
    Although, of course, they were tied to oil prices ... But now no one will collapse them ..
    In an amazing time we live comrades ..
  • ATATA
    ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 23 New
    19
    then Cyprus is traditionally here almost half a century It is an offshore estate of the Russian financial sector.

    Half a century ?! Did I miss something?
    And who is Vladislav Surkov?
    It seems that he really wants everyone to be scattered dearly, as one in a single rush they rushed to defend the money stolen from our crooks.
    For the sake of the triumph of socialism, these thieves were not ready for the third world war, but for the sake of their stolen dough they were ready to unleash the third world one.
    They took the money of Russian thieves in Cyprus ?! Yes, even if all foreign assets were taken away along with apartments, yacht houses and mopeds! Let’s share how it came and leaves. Maybe this will at least teach our crooks something!
    Although unlikely. Only the grave will correct the hunchback. Evil is not enough, the shit-eaters started talking about the Third World, like loot from 3,14 people.
    ps
    Surkov, is that the head of the government apparatus or something? I'm in shock !!!!
    1. sams
      sams 25 March 2013 08: 41 New
      10
      Quote: ATATA
      Surkov, is that the head of the government apparatus or something? I'm in shock !!!!

      Vladislav Yurievich Surkov (born September 21, 1964) is a Russian statesman, deputy chairman of the government of the Russian Federation - head of the apparatus of the government of the Russian Federation, author of the concept of sovereign democracy.
      From Wikipedia

      I'm shocked too! It is of such a level that the official issues stupid analytics in the form of this article. What are they in the Kremlin - they don’t know how to think at all !? Rather, we are kept for complete idiots.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: sams
        Rather, we are kept for complete idiots.

        Yes, they seem to rule us.
        The Bible says: "Do not complain about your ruler, for every nation is worthy of its ruler."

        Actually scary.
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 25 March 2013 08: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: sams
        Rather, we are kept for complete idiots.

        Mr. Surkov thinks that he is one smart, but not all around.
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 25 March 2013 08: 26 New
    +9
    I did not understand who is throwing whom and where. In my opinion, Russian "businessmen" are simply saving their accounts in Cypriot offshores. Moreover, they save at the expense of those who have no accounts either in offshore or offshore areas, have never had and are unlikely to ever be.
    And so that all lay once, and twice, quietly, interested persons and organizations raise a "blizzard" about the intrigues of the "foreign country".
    Who shouts loudest "stop the thief"? They are thieves and scream. They are also fighting corruption.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 25 March 2013 08: 28 New
    +6
    Article sucked from the finger. And what about missile defense? And supposedly my money is stored in Cyprus? The whole gesheft from storing money in Cyprus is received by Banks and oligarchs, but not me or my family. All the above written nonsense. The author is clearly trolling the audience.
  • radio operator
    radio operator 25 March 2013 08: 29 New
    +3
    Russian money will be taken away and divided

    This is to be expected. For the European Union, this is a bloodless solution; for us, it is a science of who should be trusted and who not.
  • pav-pon1972
    pav-pon1972 25 March 2013 08: 29 New
    +3
    How are things turning .... And what, there are no European enterprises in Russia? The same expropriate to the N-th amount .... Everything is fair.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 25 March 2013 08: 30 New
    13
    Mr. Surkov is trying so hard to imagine that the money in the Cypriot bank is popular and thinks that we will believe it. Deeply mistaken, the source money is really popular, but they no longer belong to the people, but to the oligarchs and state bandits. What has fallen from the cart has disappeared, and crying about stolen money is more expensive. Even if they take away at least 50%, the people are neither hot nor cold from this. But the thieves will click on the nose, save the money in Sberbank. Yesterday in Russia 24 I watched a program about the causes of the crisis, the conclusion of the crisis is a consequence of the theft of money by the leading banks of the world, but this also applies to us. If the banker was stealing, then the bank is pumped up with budget money, but it would be necessary to nationalize it.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 25 March 2013 09: 28 New
      +6
      Exactly! It turns out the stolen money from pensioners, military, children of teachers, doctors or taken out of Russia to the place that would lend their own people at low interest rates, etc. it is not stolen at all, but deposited in Cyprus. Interesting girls are dancing. And now, when the evolvoks shamelessly took them, they are true thieves. The people must say their decisive no, the arbitrariness of the State Department and the European Department. I cry with joy, some kind of celebration of justice! If Merkel came up with this, then of course she was our man or Putin suggested to her, "Enemy of my enemy, my friend."
      Z.Y. D-and-b-and-l-s neither to itself, nor to people.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 25 March 2013 11: 06 New
        +2
        In Russia, you are in full swing, but in Europe there is peace and quiet.
        No one bangs his head against the wall, does not yell from the pages of newspapers that Cyprus is robbing citizens of Germany, France, etc. And corporations in the West are calm.
        Europe, for this action, also promises Cyprus money!

        This leads me to think that we are all out of the blue "interested persons". Yes, the stolen Russian money has been "nailed", this money has not been in Russia for a long time (the state has "forgiven and forgotten" it), and they will not come back (who will show it and explain to the tax authorities in Russia. , to show civil servants and deputies, which suddenly appeared, unearned income), will be transferred to "reliable" offshore companies. These gentlemen will have to wipe themselves off, and, as a result, they will begin to compensate for the losses, again robbing the people.
        And what about the State Corporation? State, AU? What are your representatives doing there? Do you get kickbacks? Order of Merit ...?
    2. PrikVO 84-86
      PrikVO 84-86 25 March 2013 16: 10 New
      0
      Thieves were and will remain thieves. And no clicks of them will make normal people. As they stole in Russia and carried from Russia, they will continue so. They will look for other schemes of withdrawal of money. But they will never be honest. Only hard physical labor for the good of the country can make amends for their people.
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 25 March 2013 08: 39 New
    +3
    Speaking about this to the Lord, we do not know REAL agreements. For applicants from politicians is one reality this is another.
    For example, closing offshore companies would be beneficial. At the same time, it is not clear what they decided there.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 25 March 2013 08: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: leon-iv
      For example, closing offshore companies would be beneficial.

      Yes?
      And why Surkov grinds delirium about the 3rd world? Is he so disguised as that?
      You know, you can justify anything if you really want to, just anything! hi
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 25 March 2013 09: 10 New
        +2
        And why Surkov grinds delirium about the 3rd world?
        Do you often listen to politicians? I rarely. Better to look at the actions.
  • tan0472
    tan0472 25 March 2013 08: 40 New
    +1
    Cyprus is part of Europe and the Europeans want to take away Russian assets using "European" methods. Why doesn't Russia compensate the losses of Russians with the same "European" methods? Do Europeans have assets in Russia?
  • Vanek
    Vanek 25 March 2013 08: 45 New
    +4
    Cyprus asks for 10 billion, and the EU asks for guarantees in the form of 6 billion. Some kind of nonsense.

    Give them four.
  • engineer74
    engineer74 25 March 2013 08: 45 New
    +7
    I think if Putin foresaw such a development of events 10 years ago, then somewhere there is a plan for an "adequate asymmetric" response. So let's take a look!
    PS I wonder how the author sees the transition to the active phase of the 3rd MV? The landing of the Russian Airborne For the capture of cash in Cypriot banks? wassat
  • Kuzkin Batyan
    Kuzkin Batyan 25 March 2013 08: 50 New
    +4
    Interestingly, the week begins, stock up on seeds, fry and follow the news :)
  • erased
    erased 25 March 2013 08: 50 New
    +6
    What makes the author think that the US missile defense is not breaking through? And why doesn’t this nuclear weapon bury the USA?
    Does the author have accurate data? It would be interesting to read ...
    1. Kuzkin Batyan
      Kuzkin Batyan 25 March 2013 08: 52 New
      +8
      The author probably has not yet gotten enough, after commemoration of Comrade Berezovsky, that’s raving.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 25 March 2013 09: 22 New
        +4
        Yes, it’s not raving. The predicted result. Find at least one cypriotine, Swiss, yes, any foreign investor in our banks, no. The question is why the policy of the Russian state to withdraw its capital in offshore zones (created by criminals for the withdrawal, laundering and tax evasion)? Is this a brazen plunder of the people? Is there any confirmation that the power is in the hands of the oligarchy and criminals. Conclusion. Keep money in the Savings Bank (preferably glass) at home, and not in the bank of someone else's uncle and in someone else's garden.
      2. ATATA
        ATATA 25 March 2013 09: 33 New
        +5
        This author -> author -> author, one of our leaders. It was he who put the term "sovereign democracy" into circulation. Finally, I understood the meaning of this phrase.
      3. Egoza
        Egoza 25 March 2013 09: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
        The author probably has not yet gotten enough, after commemoration of Comrade Berezovsky, that’s raving.

        Well no! Apparently he took note that BAB "died in poverty." So I got scared that it would also happen to him and Co.! The damned Cypriots will bring "to poverty"! Help! let the army fight off mine, ugh, you state capital!
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 25 March 2013 08: 51 New
    10
    And the Americans have missile defense,
    What are you doing ?! The first time I hear. It’s like trying to create something, but just components PRO is not a PRO

    The Russians can’t put on the theater of operations anything but tanks, airborne and multiple launch rocket systems.


    And what can Europe do? Or does Mr. Surkov believe that war can be won only by UAVs?

    Most likely, March 25, 2013 will be the beginning of the Third World War


    Now, the 25th. Did I miss something?
    And in general, alarmists used to be shot first
    1. krokodil25
      krokodil25 25 March 2013 09: 45 New
      +4
      Most likely, March 25, 2013 will be the beginning of the Third World War.


      Yeah, and in a few days the flying saucers will take over the world !!! laughing
    2. Irkutsk
      Irkutsk 25 March 2013 11: 16 New
      +3
      I look out the window, waiting for tanks, missiles, or at least a drone. And we have already evening, soon the end of the working day. So I’ll go home unshooted.
    3. Letun
      Letun 25 March 2013 16: 30 New
      0
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      Now, the 25th. Did I miss something?
      And in general, alarmists used to be shot first

      The author is not a panicist, the author is paranoid.
    4. PrikVO 84-86
      PrikVO 84-86 25 March 2013 16: 31 New
      +3
      Russians can expose what. Here are the marmots and your homies affected and expose. We’ll give you an AK and two cartridges - and forward - a march to Cyprus.
      But, in general, after reading the article, there is a clear impression that the author is either drunk (but not talented) or that it is a very high-quality banter.
      You should be able to link this in one article:
      Archduke Ferdinand
      Saakashvidli
      Erdogan
      Stalin's legacy
      relations between Moscow and Beijing
      Lenin at the Zimmerwald Conference of 1915
      Social Democrats led by Kautsky
      Antimissile defense
      lover and dentist.
      In fact, the article with a twinkle. It is read cheerfully. Annoying slightly, of course, is the constant mention of the Russians. What do we have to do with it, Mr. Dudaev-Surkov? Especially in the context of World War 3.
  • Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 25 March 2013 08: 51 New
    +2
    Yes, Kidalovo noble is planned. so you can arrest EU property and money in Russia as compensation
  • predator.3
    predator.3 25 March 2013 08: 53 New
    +2
    The article is more than clear, but the question is: What is Russian money doing in Cyprus and other Western banks? and what in Russia has nowhere to invest? And the banking system of Russia is somehow parasitic, they take out loans in the west at 4-5%, and give out to their citizens and enterprises at 15-25%, and there are many banks in Russia, as in the sky of stars. Well, they would have left 10, well, 15 banks with all branches, otherwise their number goes over the thousand. In addition, the so-called corporate debt has already exceeded 600 billion dollars.
  • Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 09: 02 New
    0
    Quote: pav-pon1972
    And what, there are no European enterprises in Russia? The same expropriate to the N-th amount .... Everything is fair.

    And what did Surkov write incorrectly?
    After all, forewarned, then armed!
    Recall how events developed?
    1. The United States is awaiting election elections in China ...
    Given that the United States and China have close economic ties, they expected the first visit to the United States ...
    To stimulate the decision, they threw the topic of the blockade of the PRC into the media and not only what would be better thought to all of Asia ...
    Bam!
    2. The leader of China, seeing the signals, went to Russia!
    3. Theme of Cyprus ... Did it arise out of the blue?
    4. There are opinions that the Finns, sensing something was wrong, want to snuggle up to Russia ...
    Balts, too, turns out to be not averse ... But both of them throw "news" with caution - ssssat ...

    Everything is classic, as in 90's:
    - Subject - Russia (!), And not the oligarchs, are omitted for the possible number of babos. Brazenly lowered. Classic gop-stop.
    Do not scare the gas - spring-summer-autumn in the yard --- however a long period ...
    - China will not be announced today, tomorrow, that they would forget about their claims on the existing debt in the form of bonds, shares, etc.
    Several carrier groups come sooo close to the shores of East Asia ...
    - NATO troops are entering Syria ...
    - Iran is starting to bomb ...
    -Russia and China need to resolve issues in two directions - Central Asia and East Asia ...
    Isn't it two fronts?

    How's that? Isn’t it scary yet ??????

    And what is V. Surkov wrong about?
    1. explorer
      explorer 25 March 2013 11: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Tartary
      Finns, sensing something was wrong, want to snuggle up to Russia ...

      I do not know if the Finns are right now, but in 1939 they left the Pound Sterling zone and entered the dollar zone.
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 12: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      Everything is classic, as in 90's:
      - Subject - Russia (!), And not the oligarchs, are omitted for the possible number of babos. Brazenly lowered. Classic gop-stop.
      Do not scare the gas - spring-summer-autumn in the yard --- however a long period ...
      - China will not be announced today, tomorrow, that they would forget about their claims on the existing debt in the form of bonds, shares, etc.
      Several carrier groups come sooo close to the shores of East Asia ...
      - NATO troops are entering Syria ...
      - Iran is starting to bomb ...
      -Russia and China need to resolve issues in two directions - Central Asia and East Asia ...
      Isn't it two fronts?
      How's that? Isn't it scary yet?


      Something is incomprehensible ... In Europe there is not a single one in a serious combat-ready army. All are reduced to a minimum, and are only capable of local wars and the defense of their country, at best! In matrasty the same thing! What are the carrier groups in FIG ??? What NATO will get into Syria ???? Crash in Iraq and Afghanistan is not enough for them ??? Which Iran? Iran has nuclear weapons !!! The western economy of the global war will not stand! Expensive! And they have money (candy wrappers) to a fig, but there are no resources.
      But nobody will pull to try butting now with Russia and China!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 March 2013 18: 53 New
        0
        In Europe there is no one in a serious combat-ready army

        Well, suppose there is one time (provided that the whole EU is harnessed), but no more, especially since they have all sorts of blacks and Arabs in the EU there, plus all sorts of young Europeans who go to the old world to earn money, and the choice to either play all-in or save what is left ... IMHO
    3. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 14: 16 New
      0
      I agree, there are reasons for this
  • Hunter thomson
    Hunter thomson 25 March 2013 09: 03 New
    +4
    Some nonsense. Give a couple of grenade launchers to separatists or oils where to splash on the embers in Dagestan, maybe they can, contributing to creeping chaos. But a full-fledged war? With whom? With Germany? With Poland? What the hell is America's missile defense? Again a googly scarecrow for the people. We are under siege, all around are enemies. And so he imagined the armies of the Leopards with the * fallen German tankers against the T-72 near Warsaw. laughing There is no one to fight in Europe and no one. Europe’s only enemy is its own insanity and Islamic infiltrates.
  • Peter76
    Peter76 25 March 2013 09: 11 New
    +5
    RUSSIAN businessmen invest money in the development of Russia, and do not hide in Cyprus. Article is complete nonsense.
  • Yura
    Yura 25 March 2013 09: 13 New
    0
    As a reciprocal step of Russia, let’s say today we convert all foreign deposits into rubles, and tomorrow we sell everything we sell to the West for rubles, and buy everything we buy from them for their currency, the growth of the ruble will inevitably drop the euro dollar too. Does this offset the costs? Is it possible? What do you think of it?
  • Ermak
    Ermak 25 March 2013 09: 17 New
    +4
    "Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev is not lying when he says that the money of Russian state structures is blocked in Cyprus" - what, excuse me, hr? On, do the state money in offshore. structures ???? is the first thing.
    And second: "Mr. Surkov tries so hard to imagine that the money in the Cypriot bank is made by the people and thinks that we will believe it. Deeply mistaken ..." (valokordin) - I completely agree! About the war - so generally nonsense ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 12: 58 New
      -1
      Quote: Ermak
      "Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev is not lying when he says that the money of Russian state structures is blocked in Cyprus" - what kind of, excuse me, hr? On, do the state money in offshore. structures

      So this is the money of the notorious stabilization fund! Our wise leadership placed them there! Both in cash and in bonds and securities! And in the mattress placed! It is strange that no one has yet remembered this. And Putin and Medvedev must be reproached for this gap !!!
  • goody
    goody 25 March 2013 09: 42 New
    +3
    These actions are more and more reminiscent of the theater: actors, make-up, roles, plot ... Only me, as the viewer does not understand, drama or comedy ... at least for now ... request
  • vorobey
    vorobey 25 March 2013 09: 43 New
    +9
    Hello everybody.

    Very pessimistic article. All the bad and going to get worse.

    For whom? I don’t keep money in Cyprus, and 6 billion that are expropriated from ours is a good lesson. As the unforgettable prince of Miloslavsky said in an immortal movie about Ivan Vasilyevich - Keep the money in a savings bank.

    I don’t think that Lu4coil or VTB or our metalworkers will calmly react after losing their money. Europe will return these 6 billion, but already in the form of payments for gas and so on. Yes, and our money will begin to withdraw. In the short run, we lose, but in the long run we still have to look. 6 billion does not solve the problem of the European Union.

    By the way, the swan song of the birch ochenb is similar to the song of Dolmatov.

    As for the world war, I will say this. Today, China has shown everyone who will be serving the ball during the game. So do not get excited. The war has not yet begun, much less lost. I think so hi
  • Fox
    Fox 25 March 2013 09: 54 New
    +3
    From the article I realized: Serdyukov-Vaslyev-Skrynnik-Chubais .... this is not stolen money and withdrawn to offshore, but the state budget. I do not share the views of the author.
  • Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 09: 58 New
    0
    Quote: vorobey
    I don’t keep money in Cyprus, and 6 billion that are expropriated from ours is a good lesson.

    And I do not store ...
    Does it not occur to you that the "dropping" of the vile oligophrenic Europeans not oligarchs, but Russian businessmen is a smelly spit in the face of Russia, even more precisely in the face of Putin, me, you, all of us?

    And how will you tomorrow begin to write about your love for your spat upon homeland with someone else's nozzle on your forehead reading to me / us patriotic posts spitting from head to toe ...
    Yes, who spit?
    Those, about whom, about whom we write here day after day, and who at night, that we don’t like horror as THEIR people, we condemn them, they are ready to re-educate or bail ...

    Ugh, their mother ... our grandfathers in the 45th !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And the hour is uneven, will the interventionists come for your director of a neighboring enterprise?
    What? Let’s shout: right to this snickering oligarch!
    So what?

    Babos Russian? Mafia? States? The oligarchs?
    What a difference - smelly hands off, liberal evil!
    Our business oligarchs ---- we will rest ourselves when the time comes ...
    And so - you penny to us - sooner or later the kirdyk itself will come.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 March 2013 10: 08 New
      +7
      Quote: Tartary
      Does it not occur to you that the "dropping" of the vile oligophrenic Europeans not oligarchs, but Russian businessmen is a smelly spit in the face of Russia, even more precisely in the face of Putin, me, you, all of us?


      yes it's a spit. Well, they have no sayings - about spitting in the well. We will exaggerate, and we will observe how they will drink. The Germans do not make conclusions.

      Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.

      O. Bismarck
  • Corporal
    Corporal 25 March 2013 10: 00 New
    +2
    Amaze people who confidently carry complete nonsense, considering themselves experts.
  • andrey777
    andrey777 25 March 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But doesn’t it bother you that in this case they are robbing Russia itself?
    It was high time that we withdraw our money from Europe and the United States; Gaddafi’s example did not teach us anything.
  • dema46
    dema46 25 March 2013 10: 07 New
    +3
    Surkov, don't listen to yourself. He cares, you see, for the interests of Russia! and when the decision to withdraw the article "smuggling" from the number of criminally punishable acts was recently pushed through, for some reason, together with Dvorkovich and Medvedev, I did not think about the interests of Russia. In general, the situation resembles history about Buratino.tam, in the country of fools, barmaley also loudly shouted "robbed, sentry !!!!!!", and the police snarled: "who offended the poor orphan?" and whether he is lying not in the know.
  • Nikolko
    Nikolko 25 March 2013 10: 08 New
    +2
    It has arrived March 25. WHERE IS 3 WORLD?!? wassat
    1. Kuzkin Batyan
      Kuzkin Batyan 25 March 2013 10: 21 New
      +3
      Fuel is still in the UAV laughing
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 25 March 2013 19: 00 New
      +1
      It has arrived March 25. WHERE IS 3 WORLD?!?

      stuck on the Belarusian-Polish border ... laughing
  • Igarr
    Igarr 25 March 2013 10: 09 New
    +7
    Some kind of complete nonsense .... from this Surkov.
    Shots, Archduke, the Stalinist platform in the Urals.
    Well, of course, Surkov broke off with the rent, his lover will leave right now (or have already given it to another), his wife will have a fur coat frayed.
    And why should he rinse our brains?
    Your money, your money ... Does he unfasten the incoming cleaner by deputy salary?
    ..
    Such a situation - with extreme seizures - does not arise from the bay-floundering.
    If there is a precedent with "weaning" in banks, consider that a northern animal with valuable fur has come to the banking system.
    It was correctly noticed - we do not know all the closed agreements.
    The rumor about the massive withdrawal of funds from foreign banks (Putin’s order) also arose not from scratch.
    .
    Does someone bring down someone economically?
    But someone who, not cooking in this mess does not immediately understand.
    ....
    Nobody took any money from anyone.
    20 percent - withdrawn temporarily from banking services. To the reserve fund. Then, probably, they will return - as they finally agree.
    About what?
  • aleks71
    aleks71 25 March 2013 10: 10 New
    +1
    I read and marvel ... It seems that some did not catch the ESSENCE ... YES, money stolen, YES, why ... work not at home and much more ... but this is a hitting the ESS, not thieving officials , but on ROSSIUS. Why it’s so comrades so happy, it’s unclear .. Now they’re wiping their feet, and if the GDP doesn’t answer adequately (I have no doubt), then they’ll start wiping off .. but the GDP will answer, he will answer so that I think there will be no such thoughts, no one will ever ... It’s problematic to deal with GDP, as far as I understand, and she won’t definitely go for such provocations of the geyrop ... Initiative, TNCs, there’s nobody else. ..
  • alicante11
    alicante11 25 March 2013 10: 10 New
    +4
    I will give a simple example from life. Imagine, dear reader, that you and your family — wife, children, mistresses, servants, and other people dependent on you — live on the rent that you receive from your own capital. And here, someone suddenly comes from the side and takes away from you the entire annual rent. Your capitals are dead because they do not work.


    Whose example from life? Do we have so many rentiers in Russia (or do they all hang out on this site)? Generally speaking, a rentier, in order to live as the author says, you need to have Abramovich's fortune (And he is also not a rentier - he has a regular income). Otherwise, horns and legs will very quickly remain from any "fixed capital" that the reader can imagine.

    None of the oligarchs, not to mention thieving officials, will not use the money lost in Cyprus in order to pay wages to workers in Russia. Not for that deduced. Therefore, Russia is neither hot nor cold from all this.
    The actions of GDP and DAM can be explained by various reasons. Somewhere it slipped that our external services, such as the Foreign Intelligence Service, were operating through Cyprus. Therefore, some of their current money could hang on these accounts. Or the next portion of Assad’s help. I think that all officials close to the Kremlin have long since withdrawn their capital from Cyprus, and it is not customary for us to fight for the money of unapproved thieves. Therefore, most likely, over the past week, issues with the main accounts have been resolved. How? I can only guess. From simple damage reduction by reducing from 10 to 4% write-off (it seems strange that only one, even the largest bank, falls under a large sequestration), to all kinds of corruption options.

    So, you don't have to worry, speaking in the images of the author, the new Gavrila Principle (nee Merkel) missed. And His Highness Archduke Russian Capital continues his "business" trip to Sarajevo (offshore) in order to conceal his presence from the beloved tax office.
  • gorku68
    gorku68 25 March 2013 10: 12 New
    +1
    The article is panic and absurdity. fat minus! The topic is interesting, let's see the development of events. My, my family, mistress is definitely not there, we have stolen money. But we don’t have any use from them, they will stay there or transfer to another offshore. The hope is only for the capital to escape back to Russia, at least some taxes will go to it.
  • Apollo
    25 March 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    I get the impression that this whole story with Cyprus resembles a detective story.

    The reasons that prompted me to think so.

    1: More than sure that the whole banking mess was planned and started by the intelligence services of Western countries, in particular the German foreign intelligence service Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND).
    2. It's no secret that the main violin in the European Union is played by Germany and France.
    3. Next, Mrs. Mergel has the elections in September, she needs a small, even financially victorious war. Freezing Russian assets is 2% of GDP.
    4. As an ally with Mrs. Merkel, who do you think, who, of course, is Frenchwoman Christine Lagarde, the head of the IMF, in whose house searches were carried out
    quote-Eric King: It's amazing that you announced to King World News (KWN) only one and a half days ago that “Putin challenged the International Monetary Fund, which, incidentally, is located in Washington and is essentially Washington itself. So, in the sense of the Cold War, Washington confronts Moscow and Moscow won this round. The bottom line is that [Christine] Lagarde challenged Putin, but Putin, as the Russian grandmaster would have done, put a checkmate on her and the IMF. ” A few hours after the news appeared on KWN, the Lagarde apartment was searched by the police.
    http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/77352/
    5. The whole history with Cyprus is not only financial but also political, I’ll explain why, Western intelligence agencies carry out a special operation to oust Russia from the Mediterranean. As we know recently, huge reserves of oil and gas have been found on the Cypriot shelf. allow Russia. to the development of these shelves.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 March 2013 10: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      5. The whole history with Cyprus is not only financial but also political, I’ll explain why, Western intelligence agencies carry out a special operation to oust Russia from the Mediterranean. As we know recently, huge reserves of oil and gas have been found on the Cypriot shelf. allow Russia. to the development of these shelves.


      Apollo welcome friend. And 2,5 miles of already allocated Cyprus, how will it be given to Russia? Apparently, at the talks in Moscow, ours also broke the price for the Cypriots, that they had gone awry. let them think. Bodalovo will continue.
  • Sharingan
    Sharingan 25 March 2013 10: 15 New
    0
    What is this nonsense about an invincible missile defense? This Surkov had already lost the hypothetical war before it began. And this is written by the Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation am
    Even if it were all so bad with our Armed Forces, as he draws, anyway to spread SUCH on public display - this is at least alarmism, but at the very least treason. Apparently I lost my loot, that’s hysteria and rolls, hysterical, damn it.
  • Alex
    Alex 25 March 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    These crooks and thieves have been given to all of you. How can you not understand that a lot of Russian companies are registered in Cyprus. All calculations are made through Cypriot banks, respectively. Now the accounts are frozen. Our company produces sunflower oil. They cannot give people salaries, as in 90 Gg, so where does the rogue officials come in? What are you all happy about? They threw Russia again?
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 25 March 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      And tell me, dear, WHY ??? !!!!! register the Russian campaign for the production of rust. oils (or any other) in Cyprus.
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 25 March 2013 10: 21 New
    0
    Kind! Well, I put the article minus the obvious, only for its maximalism and excessive pessimism! The fact that the money will be taken away - we consider the fact that happened, but this is a very serious reason to think and make a decision - what for goat bai? Why does Europe not keep money in our banks? only factories of production and money to yourself to yourself! So it’s time for us to understand that the more money the closer. And Cyprus is the beginning! Next Greece, Italy! and everyone will take Russian money ..... if you leave it there.
  • Tartary
    Tartary 25 March 2013 10: 22 New
    0
    Quote: vorobey
    yes it's a spit. Well, they have no sayings - about spitting in the well. We’ll mop up and watch how they drink.

    Why wipe yourself?
    For such things in the 90s among the people, you could lose your head ...
    Something few wanted to wipe themselves, but they wet all the offenders to the right and to the left ...
    And here, some (pi) liberalists will spit in the face of the motherland?
    Times have been wiped from the 90s to this day ...
    Can you stop it already?
    Or else we’ll bump their spacers with wings?

    Yes, let it be better for our women to use the "sleeve from the sweatshirt" - we will tolerate, but to erase the disgusting snot from the face has already been lost ...
    But see THEY also understand this ...
    Is it really so dare? Without hesitation?

    Definitely a provocation and a link in one chain, the links of which will not take long to appear ...
    We'll wait and see ... But it’s IMPOSSIBLE to be silent in a rag, and even more so to wipe oneself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 March 2013 10: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Tartary
      Definitely a provocation and a link in one chain, the links of which will not take long to appear ...
      We'll wait and see ... But it’s IMPOSSIBLE to be silent in a rag, and even more so to wipe oneself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


      Well, you yourself have summed up. I just said we’ll die, but you can wipe yourself in different ways. Do not walk with a spit. He replied to Apollo above that it was not for nothing that the Cypriots in Moscow had twisted the muzzle.

      Quote: Tartary
      Is it really so dare? Without hesitation?


      The consequences for themselves were poorly calculated.
  • pinecone
    pinecone 25 March 2013 10: 23 New
    +4
    In the USSR, there was a correct concept: "Keep your money in the Savings Bank!" The depositors' money worked for the national economy of the country. Now. when the money was threatened, exported by the devil knows who outside the Russian Federation and hidden in offshore banks on some resort island, moaning and hysterical sobbing began about the country "thrown into the embrasure of the crisis." An embrasure with an embrasure, and the Russian people must again, once again, cover all this riffraff with their breasts. They would have better kept their hard-earned money in the savings banks of the Russian Federation, you see, and they would have done without yelling. At first they started talking about the "patriotic upbringing" of the domestic "elite", but now they began to cry.
  • mr.Net
    mr.Net 25 March 2013 10: 29 New
    0
    Money is stored in Cyprus solely for the purpose of concealing profit and tax evasion, so what happens is just the expropriation of the stolen (the same VAT unpaid in Russia). Merkel-offset !!! laughing
    And let her kiss her ass, just for the fact that she did not take everything from them.
  • Sharingan
    Sharingan 25 March 2013 10: 31 New
    -1
    Judging by the fact that the source of the article is Ukrainian and the author, speaking about Russia, uses a third party ("they", instead of "we", "Russians" instead of "we"), then this is some other Surkov (I hope)
  • mr.Net
    mr.Net 25 March 2013 10: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: Sharingan
    Judging by the fact that the source of the article is Ukrainian and the author, speaking about Russia, is used by a third party ("with them", instead of "with us"), then this is some other Surkov (I hope)

    Yes, this is some kind of Troll wrote. Surkov can not be such a fucker
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 13: 15 New
      0
      Quote: mr.Net
      Marmots can't be such a fucker


      Yes, he is also not so up to ... Fuck !!!!!
  • disa
    disa 25 March 2013 10: 38 New
    +1
    There was the Magnitsky Act .. then, in contrast to it, the ban on our bureaucrats to place their money abroad ... the eurozone response is the withdrawal of Russian funds in offshore while ours scratch their turnips to take or not to take. We must try to count the fourth and fifth moves, and preferably the sixth and seventh, and then it will be clear why this is all .. one can confidently say that it’s not a hot war for sure. Sooner ysho ... the Stalinist legacy was not completely squandered ... and we live ... we can safely put a candle in the memory of I.O. Stalin for all times in the glory of the Fatherland.
  • optimist
    optimist 25 March 2013 10: 41 New
    -3
    And what did the people pile of cons? Everything is correct, the uncle says: the West has already "reset the counter". And the time has come to pay for "Russian capitalism". Russia ("sucker") and the West ("katala") sat down to play "cards" 25 years ago. The result is obvious: "goof" lost. Maybe, of course, everything will not be as tragic as described in the article, but the fact that there will never be a "calm and well-fed life under Putin" is unambiguous! So it's time to "dry up" and buy a "house in the country". Until it's not too late.... laughing