Trump's Not Peace Plan

91
Trump's Not Peace Plan


100 day plan


Whatever they say, Trump has taken up the matter with flying colors. Not even ten days have passed since his accession to the throne in the United States, and his decrees have already caused quite a stir. The international arena has seen the arrival of Colombia, whose president decided to show character and refused to accept a plane with deported compatriots. The response was swift and harsh – 25 percent duties on all goods from Colombia. The planes immediately landed at Bogota airport.



Some analysts considered Trump's claims to Greenland to be pure election rhetoric. What does this statement from Trump sound like:

"I don't know what claims Denmark has on Greenland, but it would be a very unfriendly act if it interfered with the attempt to annex the island to the United States, because it is necessary for the protection of the free world."

The speed with which Israel signed the peace treaty with the terrorists from the Gaza Strip, which was in fact an admission of Jerusalem's defeat, is surprising. All this suggests that the new American president will approach the Ukrainian crisis with the same decisiveness. With some reservations, of course. You can pinch Columbia and Denmark as much as you like, but Russia is the only country in the world capable of destroying the United States. China doesn't count - for now it can only seriously spoil the mood of those sitting in the White House. Therefore, Donald Trump needs to be more careful with his expressions and actions towards Russia. He can no longer retreat - too much has been said from high platforms.


He promised to end the conflict on the very first day after the inauguration, and now everything has turned into a 100-day adventure to reconcile the parties. It cannot be called anything else. The new president's administration is carefully avoiding any specifics regarding possible peace talks, but the White House is clearly testing the waters. Artificial leaks appear with enviable regularity, but so far they do not bring anything good for Russia. This was quite predictable. No one in good health, neither in Brussels nor, especially, in Washington, is capable of taking into account the Kremlin's completely fair demands head-on. For any Western official, the forced withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from four new regions of Russia looks like a disaster. For now, it looks like a disaster, we need to clarify. The time will come, they will take it for granted. But for now, let's get acquainted with Trump's peace plan, which we would rather call non-peaceful.

Steps to Nuclear War


Fuel was once again added to the fire by the hysterics from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, who moved the Doomsday Clock a second closer to the apocalypse. There are 89 seconds left until the end of humanity. This happened for a reason. Many hoped for a lightning-fast peacekeeping mission from Donald Trump, but it did not happen. Given the assertiveness of America's new master, only a blind person would not notice the growing risks of a nuclear war. And when the approximate points of the plan were made public, there was no longer any doubt about the difficult future of the planet.

So, the first point of a hypothetical peace treaty between Russia and Ukraine:

"Ukraine will not be a member of NATO and declares neutrality. The decision to ban Ukraine from joining the Alliance must be approved at the NATO summit."

It is very difficult to call this a concession to Russia. According to the Alliance Charter, the Kiev regime would not have been able to join the military bloc without this. The presence of unresolved territorial disputes does not allow new states to join NATO. But voicing this thesis at the highest level is already a good thing. news. Better than nothing. But who will believe the guarantees of Ukraine's neutrality?

The next item on Trump's plan:

"Ukraine will become a member of the EU by 2030. The EU undertakes obligations for the post-war reconstruction of the country."

Membership in the European Union has long ceased to be a matter of principle for Russia. This fact seems much more fundamental for the European Union itself. Ukraine will not be able to meet the requirements of the economic alliance by the specified time under any circumstances. If Kiev does not believe it, then let them ask Turkey, which has already despaired of knocking on the EU's door. Trump's thesis about assigning the responsibility for restoring Ukraine after the end of the conflict looks beautiful. The calculation is in the desire to save money and at the same time firmly tie Europe to investments in Ukraine. They say that you will invest so much in restoration that you will even reluctantly accept the remains of the state into the European Union.


"Ukraine is not reducing the size of its army. The United States is committed to continuing support for the modernization of the Ukrainian Armed Forces."
This is a direct contradiction to Vladimir Putin's theses on the demilitarization of Ukraine. If we take this position of Trump seriously, then we can stop reading his peace plan. Banderites have been honing their combat skills since 2014 and with the latest weapons from the US, they risk becoming an extremely combat-ready machine. Who in Kyiv will refuse the temptation of revenge? No one, of course, which is why the presence of several hundred thousand Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers on Russia's western borders is an existential threat to us. It is not far from a nuclear war here.

"Ukraine refuses military and diplomatic attempts to return the territories liberated by Russia. But it does not officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over them."

Here we look at the first point, concerning trust in the documents signed by NATO members. The same Zelensky will sign with a fig behind his back. He clearly stated that if the Banderites are forced to make peace, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will finally switch to terrorist practices. The elder brother does not allow occupying new regions of Russia? Kyiv will continue to work deep into the country, blow up railways and set fire to substations. Formally, no violations, but in reality - a terrorist war.


"Some of the sanctions against the Russian Federation will be lifted immediately after the conclusion of a peace agreement. Some will be lifted within three years, depending on Russia's compliance with the parameters of the agreement."

This is a conversation between two equal parties. The American president is initially putting himself in a position of strength, literally forcing Russia to capitulate. The sweet pill should be the lifting of sanctions. This is not even about Russia, but about the internal games of the West. As soon as sanctions were introduced, businesses appeared in Europe and the US that were replacing Russian goods, primarily energy resources. And they appeared not only in the West, but also in the countries of the collective South. As soon as the sanctions are lifted, this business will be in trouble. It is impossible to forgive this, so no one will ever completely lift the sanctions. Let us remember that the Jackson-Vanik amendment felt good even in the “warmest” years of contacts between Russia and the US. Why will it be different now?

"Parties that advocate for the Russian language and peaceful coexistence with Russia must be allowed to participate in elections in Ukraine. All actions against the UOC and the Russian language must be stopped at the state level."

The commentary on this point is very simple - only a Russian soldier on duty near the Verkhovna Rada can control compliance with this point. There is no other way. The agreements will be signed, and that's it. The Minsk agreements will not let you lie.

The final thesis put forward is the introduction of European (read: NATO) peacekeepers to Ukraine. Trump considers the introduction of "peacekeepers" to be a debatable issue, since even he lacks the audacity to directly demand that the Kremlin accept this idea. The point is unacceptable for Russia, period. Only peacekeepers from India or China can be discussed. At worst, from Brazil. But how this will look in reality is unclear. Now the front stretches for one and a half to two thousand kilometers, and it is almost impossible to demilitarize it with "blue helmets".

Donald Trump needs to get to the heart of the matter. The conflict between Russia and Ukraine did not start yesterday or even the day before. It has a deep and tragic story. Therefore, it will not be possible to resolve the contradictions with a cowboy charge. Only through just retribution of the Kyiv regime and the destruction of Banderaism on the western borders of Russia will peace finally come.
91 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +5
    1 February 2025 05: 47
    With this plan, most likely, the meeting between Trump and Putin will not take place at all - there is nothing to discuss and sign. And what next? It becomes interesting. And scary.
    1. +5
      1 February 2025 09: 30
      Well, why? It might happen. Putin is ready. But we probably won't be happy with the result.
      1. +5
        1 February 2025 20: 08
        Quote: Million


        Putin is ready. But the result will most likely not please us.

        And the result is this - 4 regions + non-entry of the Outskirts into NATO.
        And that's it. Not a word about the goals of the SVO. And such a result is really not pleasing. Because it is equal to defeat.
    2. 0
      1 February 2025 12: 31
      Quote: pudelartemon
      With this plan, most likely, the meeting between Trump and Putin will not take place at all - there is nothing to discuss and sign. And what next? It becomes interesting. And scary.

      With this plan, there is nothing to talk about even on the phone. Yes
      Trump has said a lot since his inauguration. He simply spouts statements as if he has verbal diarrhea. He constantly posts on Twitter personally. Trump is a Twitter president, a businessman and showman. He behaves like an elephant in a china shop. Perhaps Putin was telling the truth that the giggly Kharya is a better US president for the Russian Federation than Ushastik. winked
      Trump has imposed 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada as of today. He has threatened a trade war with the EU and BRICS+. He is ready to start a global trade war that could lead to World War III. fool
      All this hysteria of his suggests that not everything is so good in the stripes and the dollar.
      1. +1
        1 February 2025 16: 13
        There are no equals, but who said that we are equals for the USA? The author bleats something about the possibility of us destroying the USA - is that really true? The author writes something about how we can destroy the USA, the only ones in the world. But in reality, we can not destroy them, but commit suicide together with them... and this is not a conversation on equal terms...
        1. Ana
          0
          1 February 2025 23: 10
          They have more to lose... they want to live richly, but the Federation is happy to live like this. Yes, blackmail. Well, we can admit the south of the USA. What does the British colony have to do with it?
          1. -1
            2 February 2025 18: 11
            I don't understand what you're writing at all... In what sense do you mean "they have more to lose"? Do we have 2 lives or do we like the post-nuclear world? The threat of a nuclear strike is absolutely equivalent on both sides, just as we can demand that the US stop supporting Kyiv, so the US can demand a return to the 1991 borders (or any other), but blackmail with a nuclear strike in such a situation is meaningless, that's why it won't happen...
            I don't understand at all what recognition of the southern states or English colonies are we talking about, this question hasn't been standing for at least 150 years
            1. Ana
              0
              2 February 2025 19: 03
              You forgot about the little things, about money. While the Federal Reserve System can stamp out currency, they definitely have more to lose. It is the US that claims a world empire, and not Russia. As for the south and the north? This could be a minimization of diplomatic relations, which has already happened. At least an independent Texas could be recognized, what a joke. Or Northern Ireland. As part of Great Britain. Any agreements can be annulled.
              1. -1
                2 February 2025 23: 33
                You are wrong, because they print money for a reason... well, accordingly, after a nuclear war it will not be so important who prints money... (yes, not for everyone, but for us and the Americans for sure)...
                As for recognizing Texas, the south, etc. - as long as the supporters of this idea abroad represent a "crazy" minority, we can recognize anything. We can declare the PVV emperor of the planet, or even the galaxy, for that matter, but it won't change anything, we'll just look like one African dictator, and all that'll be left is to eat the meat of our enemies...
                1. Ana
                  0
                  3 February 2025 00: 04
                  It was the crazy ones who sometimes made history. Well, it wasn't me. And after that they'll have nothing to print. The apocalypse will reset everything. Washington is categorically not happy with this, that's obvious. However, Moscow is not happy either. Well, we can push a little harder. Probably. If there are men like Rezanov, remember Frisco, California. Brigi, Juno and Avos. It's not like they've forgotten everything..,.
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2025 07: 43
                    Once again - will death suit us? I'll give you an abstract example - it's like coming to a chess competition wearing a suicide belt and demanding the title of champion. This won't make you a better chess player and it won't make you a champion.
                    1. Ana
                      0
                      3 February 2025 12: 09
                      Rather, to the bank. Believe me, they have more in their banks than we do. And more billionaires. And they want to have it, and they are more here and now. In fact, the matter is in the Baltics, they are starting a war on communications. It is clear that they will get the same in response. Risks for big business are generally unacceptable, Russia will also have problems, but its communications are mainly on the continent. In order to make such money, like the West, you need to have absolute security practically. And is this possible in such a situation? The cost of insurance? We are talking about the most uncomfortable situation in the sphere. The flows of goods are huge, the added value, and there is this very money. Look at the map of the movement of ships of Russia and other countries, the difference is an order of magnitude. And when you live with wolves, howl like a wolf. Otherwise, they will eat you.
                      1. 0
                        3 February 2025 13: 18
                        What are you saying, I don't understand a word... just a stream of letters trying to catch up with thoughts... which seem to be faster... once again - in economic, political (influence and number of "yes men"), military (number of soldiers and equipment), and most likely technological (what are Starlinks worth) terms, we are far from being an equal opponent to the USA. In terms of the possibility of nuclear destruction/unacceptable losses, we have parity, so we won't be able to demand a "conversation on equal terms", we will not use nuclear weapons (mass use will kill both us and them, and local use will not give an advantage within the framework of the NWO, but will cause indignation of the entire world, no one needs a new nuclear arms race). Because the most we can do is simply bargain on an intermediate option, when a concession on their part will cost as much as further support for Kyiv in the war.
                      2. Ana
                        0
                        3 February 2025 14: 42
                        The agreement not to conduct tests in three environments will also be denounced. There is no other way out in Russia. It's either do or die. Whose fault is it that the Americans detonate a device off the coast of California? And it's not a missile launch. Everything is quiet and unprovable underwater. Washington takes this into account for Moscow, this is the last argument. First, there may be new land, of course. Do they want to buy galoshes in Ryazan to walk along the seashore?
    3. +1
      1 February 2025 19: 52
      Do you think our Istanbul plan was better?
      With the denazification of our prisons by sending Nazis on vacation and with memorable gifts to mercenaries?
      Let's make some noise, explain it to the people and accept Trump's plan.
  2. -1
    1 February 2025 05: 54
    For me, 100 days are 100 days before the order that demobilization is inevitable. Another 500 days of Yegor Gaidar, in which the main thing is that during this time they were able to divide and privatize the USSR. Oligarchs celebrate this day as a holiday. The first MMM with vouchers.
    So Trump went from one day to 100 days, then 200 days, etc. according to the Mayan calendar.
  3. +3
    1 February 2025 05: 57
    Russia is the only country in the world capable of destroying the United States.

    Why didn't it destroy it before? The US is the center of decisions. No US and peace in the whole world.. I would like to know the methods of destruction. Probably, Russia can introduce such sanctions against the US that the sanctions imposed by the Americans will fade.. Maybe it will somehow freeze huge amounts of money.. Will it buy up all American companies together with Musk, at the root and all American business will move to Russia? Is it really planned to blow up the Yellowstone volcano? If so, why negotiate? Everything will settle down by itself.. Yes
    1. +8
      1 February 2025 09: 51
      Quote: parusnik
      Why didn't you destroy it before? The US is the center of solutions. No US and peace, all over the world.. I would like to know the ways

      Remember how in 2021 the Tuvan reindeer herder Shoigu said from high platforms that:
      "Today, everyone - some with anger, some with approval - understands and states that the Russian army has more than 70%, or to be more precise, almost 71% of modern weapons and equipment. This is the highest percentage among all armies in the world, and in the strategic nuclear forces the percentage of modern equipment is 83%."
      And then everyone realized that the army was plundered, and Shoigu's deputies were in jail under investigation. Fraud and lies. Parades, biathlons and exhibitions.
      1. +2
        1 February 2025 11: 20
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        and Shoigu's deputies are in jail under investigation. Fraud and lies. Parades, biathlons and exhibitions
        And Shoigu is wearing a white tailcoat and tie. wink
      2. -6
        1 February 2025 12: 59
        In 2021, the army was three times smaller, so everyone really had enough modern weapons. And during mobilization, they hand out everything they have. No time for modernity, just to staff up. So Shoigu didn't lie, you're telling a half-truth.
        1. NKT
          -1
          1 February 2025 19: 50
          Please name the modern weapons that our army had at the level, for example, the omsbr
        2. 0
          1 February 2025 22: 15
          Quote: stankow
          In 2021, the army was three times smaller, so everyone really had enough modern weapons.

          90th TD, exercises 2020. Then went to the SVO without drones, in the first month well over a hundred were killed, including senior commanders, some units fell entirely, completely. Most of the tanks are T-72A. Without digital communications. This question arose on February 24, 2022, when I saw WHAT kind of equipment was moving in our columns. But only a small part of our Armed Forces entered, but which simply had to be equipped with all the latest, because it was led by contract soldiers, not conscripts. And I would be glad if our columns consisted of T-72B3 or T-90A, but they were full of T-72A ...
          And this is still the world, everyone is alive.
          The photo shows divisional artillery firing, the "museum" GAZ-66 is visible as a working transport unit. The photo of the column shows a T-72A without ERA, 1979.
          1. -1
            2 February 2025 17: 07
            What army, even in peacetime, consists entirely of "modern" models of vehicles? How many are modern, no older than 5 years? And what about vehicles older than 5 years, cut them up? New, unused, cut them up? Where, in what army? Well, they don't cut them up, and when the time comes, they go to the front. And so the percentage of "modern" ones immediately drops. In general, Soviet military equipment has a different life cycle - development, refinement, testing, acceptance, production, storage, modernization, use, repair, disposal. Years and years. Decades. These are not smartphones.
        3. 0
          1 February 2025 23: 12
          well yes for some the glass is half empty and for others it's full but.. it's funny to lie to yourself.. in the age of the internet when hiding reality is not only difficult.. it's completely IMPOSSIBLE.. and our reindeer herder with his general women (by the way they poisoned one so she wouldn't blab too much) and the disappearance of 1 million pea coats and.. we can continue but... why
          1. 0
            2 February 2025 17: 11
            Because you switched to thieves' jargon, your rehashed tales don't become true. On the contrary. wink
            1. 0
              2 February 2025 18: 46
              well, as it was said in Baron Munchausen... but THIS is not a fact__no, it is not a fact, it was much worse in reality...
    2. 0
      1 February 2025 14: 45
      No USA and peace in the whole world.

      Regarding a nuclear war with the US (World War III), Putin once said something like: they will go to hell, and we will go to heaven, although I do not agree with this thesis. Russia will remain, but only in pieces to the east of the Ural Mountains as a third-rate power. It is difficult to say what will remain of the US. Perhaps almost nothing. As for sanctions, Russia, unlike the US, cannot do anything against it. It can only do dirty tricks on the sly, as the "Englishwoman" is doing now.
      1. 0
        1 February 2025 14: 50
        Apparently the author decided to beat everyone with one nuclear swoop. That's what the comment and the smiley at the end are about, indicating irony.
      2. -1
        2 February 2025 16: 29
        There is a possibility of sanctions. Make a Tax Code like in the USA.
  4. -2
    1 February 2025 06: 06
    The author leaves no room for criticism. As they say, there is no defense against a crowbar. We have also begun to pay attention to the Doomsday Clock. Although we did not care about it before. Ukraine could become a second Cuban Missile Crisis. If, of course, the conditions for the division of powers are clearly set. It is ingrained in our subconscious that we can destroy America at any moment. Even if it goes painlessly for us, many things in the world will lose their meaning. China will no longer need Taiwan. It is needed now only because of the contradictions with the United States. By the way, it can demand from us the amount that it will lose as a result of the loss of relations with America. Thinking with the enemy's brain is not the best method of fighting him. It is the same as considering mobilization only as the call-up of additional forces into the army. And without changing anything in the country.
    1. +2
      1 February 2025 12: 27
      You must be kidding?
      Would anyone dare to demand anything from the country that (hypothetically) destroyed America, be it China or anyone else?
      Oh well...
      It seems to me that after this, no one will demand anything for 500 years, not even the Estonians, although it takes longer for them to understand.
    2. -2
      1 February 2025 14: 52
      As the saying goes, there is no defense against a crowbar.

      Western Europe seems to be intent on sponsoring the war in Ukraine. Therefore, Russia must show its "teeth".
      But how? So far, Russian ships have not been detained in the Baltic. Our ship was sunk in the Mediterranean? What and how is unclear. What in response: obviously, a ship with oil should be sunk incomprehensibly, preferably off the coast of the Netherlands-Britain. But these are not "teeth". This is a fist from afar, like "the Englishwoman is shitting". The best teeth are a strike with TNW on the bridges across the Western Bug closer to the Ukrainian coast. Such a strike would be advantageous. Logistics are disrupted, and not for one day. No one attacked NATO countries - so there are no reasons for a third world war. At the same time, the West will think: this means Russia will no longer move the red lines.
  5. +2
    1 February 2025 06: 41
    We need to take more territory in order to act on the principle of "what is taken in battle is sacred." We need to urgently take back Sumy, Chernigov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Odessa. It will be difficult, but negotiations should begin only after we control at least a third of these lands. In order to take by force of diplomacy the remaining parts of the new regions that the Ukrainians control. And the Ukrainian army, like itself, must disappear completely and without a trace.
    1. +5
      1 February 2025 13: 10
      Yeah, and part of the Kursk region should be returned back to its “home port”.
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. 0
        2 February 2025 16: 36
        If you have time and are not lazy, then take a look at the village of Oktyabrsky in Kamchatka. I was there in 1986 - the village was flourishing.
  6. +12
    1 February 2025 07: 25
    Therefore, Donald Trump needs to be more careful with his expressions and actions towards Russia.
    So what?..
    1. +1
      1 February 2025 08: 51
      Otherwise I'll stop getting married!
      Take this mentality away! ©
  7. +8
    1 February 2025 08: 27
    Russia is the only country in the world capable of destroying the United States.


    But it is far from certain that it is capable of using this even in case of extreme necessity - too many people in the West think so thanks to the statements of many of our politicians. Hence the reason for the impudence of Trump and many others.

    The rhetoric needs to change. We need to use our advantage, and not give it up even for the sake of our partners.
    1. +2
      1 February 2025 08: 40
      The rhetoric needs to change. Use our advantage

      It is not the rhetoric that needs to be changed, but to put it mildly, the attitude towards private property needs to be changed, and then we will be able to take advantage of our advantage.
      1. +5
        1 February 2025 09: 02
        A dangerous thought... Although I am for it.
        But in such a scenario, we will get an internal front in the form of a fifth or even sixth column of offended bourgeois, deprived of what they stole through backbreaking labor.
        The redistribution of property should be done in more peaceful times.
        1. +6
          1 February 2025 09: 05
          I'm talking about what needs to be done after... The US and Europe won't back down and won't lift sanctions under any circumstances, a united Russia is a pain in the neck for them. So we need to rely on our own strength...
          1. +4
            1 February 2025 09: 30
            United Russia is a pain in the neck for the people of Russia. But while it is in power, there will be no revision of the attitude towards private property.
        2. -2
          1 February 2025 11: 22
          Quote: U-58
          we will get an internal front in the form of a fifth or even sixth column of offended bourgeois
          All of them can be easily driven under the baseboard with one swing of a club. All that is needed is will. And there is none.
          1. +1
            1 February 2025 14: 46
            All of them with one swing of a baton

            Nuclear? Because there are no others? Gas has already been driven into the baseboards, with the gas ruble, experts wrote here, how the gas ruble will tear apart the economies of Europe. They wrote in December of last year that there was only three weeks' worth of oil left in the US. Tomorrow is February 1st. It's not running out, the oil. Don't forget that Russia is bourgeois and there are bourgeois around too, not friendly yet. Our own will find a common language with our own.
            1. 0
              1 February 2025 16: 12
              Quote: parusnik
              Nuclear? Because there are no others?
              No, with a simple baton, like a certain policeman O'Hara from one of O. Henry's stories, who could disperse any revolution in Latin America with his police baton. wink
              1. +1
                1 February 2025 17: 46
                Is it a club? With rhinestones or without?
            2. -3
              1 February 2025 21: 43
              Nuclear? Because there are no others?

              You are right - there are no others. What is interesting: the US is considering the possibility of a limited nuclear war between Western Europe and Russia. Well, I think that there is no need to hit Europe, but Western Ukraine is quite possible.
          2. -1
            2 February 2025 16: 42
            Most likely, you are right.
      2. 0
        1 February 2025 17: 30
        In what direction should the attitude towards private property change? From whom should what be taken away? If the privatizers are for their assets - both hands for, if the population is for their cars (and this, alas, can quickly happen if we start to "softly change the attitude"), then this is the path to self-destruction.
        1. 0
          1 February 2025 19: 09
          Do not confuse private and personal property.
          1. +1
            2 February 2025 15: 01
            And if I have a company that makes a profit, is it private property or personal?
            1. 0
              2 February 2025 17: 21
              Quote from: newtc7
              And if I have a company that makes a profit, is it private property or personal?
              Did you nurture this company yourself or did you privatize it for free?
              1. 0
                3 February 2025 17: 47
                What do you think? Are there many people in the country who have privatized, and is there a chance that this person is entering VO?
            2. 0
              2 February 2025 17: 25
              And if I have a company that makes a profit, is it private property or personal?

              If you use hired labor, then accordingly private
              1. 0
                3 February 2025 17: 48
                It is used. And how do you want to gently change the attitude towards this property?
      3. -2
        2 February 2025 16: 40
        So you became the owner of a factory, and maybe even a steamship that lays golden eggs. So you will immediately sink the steamship with its crew, and immediately ruin the factory?
    2. 0
      6 February 2025 03: 17
      America is the only country capable of destroying Russia with nuclear weapons and vice versa. This is also a fact.
  8. +13
    1 February 2025 08: 34
    Until now, the Kremlin's opinion was of no interest to the West, so why now? They inflicted a decisive defeat on the Ukrainian Armed Forces, our flag on Bankovskaya, or all of Europe suddenly froze and begs for gas? And the US economy collapsed without us, yeah. They will continue to put pressure on us as they have been putting pressure on them. Ukraine will end, they will find a new point and everything will start all over again.
  9. +4
    1 February 2025 08: 44
    It is interesting to note that many in the Western press believe that Trump's plan is a capitulation to Putin. The hawks believe that it is necessary to continue arming Ukraine and inflict a strategic defeat on Russia without giving it a break. It turns out that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Negotiations should be conducted primarily on a new security system and international relations. Once the hostilities stop, it will not be so easy to resume them. North and South Korea are an example of this.
  10. +3
    1 February 2025 08: 47
    Something is missing in this regard.
    Despite all its odiousness, Trump did not include anything significant in Russia’s favor.
    It is somehow doubtful that such a "plan" could become a starting point for negotiations. Even taking into account that the American side has some concessions and compromises in mind.
    It looks like with such American chaos, negotiations will not even begin.
    It would be interesting to know our counter plan (if one exists).
    From everything written it is clear that negotiations about the essence of negotiations (yes, that's it!) can drag on for a very long time.
    Either everything will suddenly stop with a direct refusal from the Russian side to discuss anything in the proposed paradigm
    1. +1
      1 February 2025 09: 45
      For us, the plan can only be to reach the borders of 1920, the year the peace treaty between the Bolsheviks and Poland was signed. Otherwise, through the PMC "Bandera's Ukraine" they will gradually pump our neighbors with weapons and troops and, of course, terrorize them. Although now this plan seems utopian.
  11. +5
    1 February 2025 09: 44
    "The Berlin Congress of 1878: How Russia Lost the Fruits of Its Victories"
    https://dzen.ru/a/XsvFWxM83lGU_L8w
    Any negotiations with the West will end exactly the same way. They have never in history observed agreements if they are not beneficial to them and always defend their interests, and they don't give a damn about justice.
  12. BAI
    +5
    1 February 2025 09: 52
    There will be negotiations. And they will go like this: each side puts forward demands that are obviously unacceptable to the other side, and then, having saved face, everyone comes to a compromise - there are no losers, everyone has achieved concessions
    1. -4
      1 February 2025 10: 32
      Quote: BAI
      and then, having saved face, everyone comes to a compromise - there are no losers, everyone has made concessions


      But why?
      There is no point for the Russian Federation to wait and talk at all (since the players from the West(lo) team have shown that they will definitely cheat).
      The US will not attack the Russian Federation because it will end up getting into serious trouble.
      And in general, they stole money from the Russian Federation and are flaunting their “righteous” anger as if everything is the other way around.
      And stepping on the Russian Federation’s sense of justice is a bad idea in general.
      Again, this is a zone of vital interests and strategic interests of the Russian Federation. Literally, under the Russian Federation's ass. What does the US have to do with it?

      In essence, for the Russian Federation, only a third party from within can influence the outcome of events.
      (betting on the oligarchy?)
  13. +2
    1 February 2025 10: 14
    To believe in them means not to respect yourself! Capitulation, de-banderization with an axe, through the lifting of the moratorium on capital punishment. Our armed forces and border guards on the border.
  14. +3
    1 February 2025 10: 16
    All the Russian Federation needs to do is send him to hell and continue doing business.
    Don't deceive yourself, don't play diplomacy, but simply achieve your goals.
  15. +1
    1 February 2025 11: 26
    Trump had enough time to think everything through and make a plan of action for the term of his second presidency and the midterm elections that will take place in 1,5 years and it is unknown how they will turn out - Trump's rating after the elections is falling and he is not given a third term.
    Trump's determination on the Ukrainian issue boils down to the desire to free the US from oppressive financial and material costs and shift them onto the initiator of the war - the EU, which intends to win on the battlefield, decolonize the Russian Federation, and include its fragments in its sphere of influence.
    The problem that Trump is forced to solve along the way is the EU's reluctance to wage war at its own expense, and attempts to coerce the EU cause clear signs of a conflict of interest with far-reaching consequences, including separation from the US and the creation of its own EU army, which is not part of the US plans and the creation of a global political-economic and military association NATO Aukus Quad, Japan and South Korea.
  16. +3
    1 February 2025 11: 58
    Trump with one stroke of the pen will give the command to imprison all relatives of our rulers living in the USA and the countries of the USA allies. And freeze their funds in all banks. This will be enough for our government to fulfill all of Trump's demands.
    1. -4
      1 February 2025 13: 27
      So what?
      By the way, let me remind you that no one has ever found the mythical “Putin’s billions”, which everyone has been informed about for a long time.
      And the “deposits of Russian oligarchs” would not have been frozen a long time ago, but simply confiscated... oh, but they have already been confiscated!
      But for those who fled with them to the West. tongue
      Suddenly, right?
      1. 0
        2 February 2025 16: 02
        don't ruin the worldview of those who are only capable of reflexively yapping "woof-capitalism-woof-oligarchs!" and howling shrilly "migrrrrrrants!" ))
  17. +7
    1 February 2025 12: 09
    Who was it that assured us that Europe would freeze without Russian gas? For them, the earth is probably flat and not round! Where are all these would-be experts now? Hiding in warm offices as usual, and now they insist that migration is to blame for everything!
  18. +1
    1 February 2025 12: 45
    I have already written above, but I will repeat, the positions are diametrically opposed, there are simply no options for compromise. They are satisfied with our surrender, we are satisfied with their surrender, any attempts to save face on both sides will not help, because the winner will be too obvious.
    Therefore, only war to the victorious end - all of Novorossiya and the center of Ukraine home, and with Galicia and the rest, let them do whatever they want, whether in NATO or in the EU, or set up their bases there.
    1. +1
      1 February 2025 21: 48
      Therefore, only war to the victorious end - all of Novorossiya and the center of Ukraine home

      However:
      According to official statements by the Russian leadership, our negotiating position includes the following provisions:
      A guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO now and in the future (that is, a neutral status, such as that enjoyed by Austria).
      A ban on the deployment of foreign troops and weapons of mass destruction on the territory of Ukraine.
      Withdrawal of Ukrainian armed forces from the territory of the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions and recognition of them, as well as Crimea and Sevastopol, as part of Russia.
      Refusal of the ban on the use of the Russian language and the persecution of Russian culture in Ukraine, thereby ensuring the rights and interests of Russian-speaking citizens in Ukraine.
      And finally, bringing the number of the armed forces of Ukraine and the potential of its military-industrial complex (MIC) to such a level that they do not create a military threat to the security of Russia. At the same time, it should be emphasized that we are not talking about the physical destruction of the state of Ukraine or its citizens.
  19. -1
    1 February 2025 13: 25
    Quote: Gardamir
    United Russia is a pain in the neck for the people of Russia. Only while it is in power.

    I'm embarrassed to ask, but which party, having come to power, will do this? The Communist Party of the Russian Federation? wassat LDPR?
    1. 0
      1 February 2025 19: 56
      Quote: Chromis
      Quote: Gardamir
      United Russia is a pain in the neck for the people of Russia. Only while it is in power.

      I'm embarrassed to ask, but which party, having come to power, will do this? The Communist Party of the Russian Federation? wassat LDPR?

      And here's the problem - we tried one dish, it makes you vomit. Others on the menu are no less suspicious - hardly better, but we didn't try them, who the hell knows
  20. +2
    1 February 2025 13: 29
    Not Trump's peace plan...
    The trader made the first move in the bargaining, as usual, by raising the price significantly, he himself understands this, and so does everyone around him. It is clear that these proposals will not be accepted, but they are waiting for the discussion to begin from them, from this base. But this base does not suit us, because it does not change anything for us in terms of strategic security. Therefore, you will hear many more statements from our side about the readiness to negotiate, and they will most likely even take place, only the talk there will be about changing the base, and the actions in Ukraine will continue.
    You just need to take into account the real state of affairs of the Americans, and not the one they are trying to create with the help of the media. China is increasingly surpassing America in economic power and is quickly catching up in military power. The cunning Chinese act on the principle of winning without winning - when their military power exceeds the American one and a half times, the Americans will no longer stutter about any military confrontation with China, the Chinese will win, so they act quietly, without interfering in anything, time is on their side. This cunning of theirs makes it more difficult for us, but the principle is the same, time is on our side. That is why the Americans are in such a hurry to finish spending money here, because they have to not only arm Ukraine, but also feed it. We are in no hurry, and we have no other choice but to insist on our own.
    1. 0
      2 February 2025 16: 54
      It’s clear about the Chinese, but why are we ruining the Far East?
  21. +1
    1 February 2025 14: 23
    You can sign anything on paper! It is important that the opinion that the concluded deal is better than continuing the conflict is strengthened in the public consciousness. Otherwise, everything will continue in 5-10-25 years. We are not taking 100 anymore, we need to think about 50))
    1. 0
      2 February 2025 16: 58
      There was a time when they gave it to us. Civilized fascists lasted for less than 80 years. But then they gave it to us and it didn't seem like much.
  22. +1
    1 February 2025 16: 41
    Regarding Trump's "plans" for the "fate" of Ukroreikh: he will "softly lay down" for Russia, so that later it (Russia) will have a very "hard time sleeping"... If we "fall for" these "scams", then our grandchildren - great-grandchildren, once again, will have to take up arms and defend their sovereignty... A conversation "on equal terms" can only be if Russia ends the so-called SVO on Cape Roca (Portugal).... All other "options" for a peaceful settlement of the Ukroreikh problem are "from the evil one" or a banal "deal", not in Russia's favor....
  23. 0
    1 February 2025 17: 38
    A normal plan. The only thing missing is certainty about lifting sanctions and complete silence about unfreezing our assets. The plan says nothing about Kursk Oblast - will they exchange it for territories in Kharkiv Oblast under our control?
  24. 0
    1 February 2025 17: 39
    Only through just retribution against the Kyiv regime and the destruction of Banderaism on the western borders of Russia will peace finally come.
    Retribution presupposes causing some damage to the offender, i.e. from the phrase we should expect some damage to us from the Kiev regime. It should have been written "retribution to the Kiev regime". As was noted in the program of the now forgotten EM radio "we speak Russian": friend Arkady, don't speak beautifully, speak correctly. In short, watch the cases.
  25. -1
    1 February 2025 23: 54
    A very superficial view of the situation. Negotiations with the US can proceed on the basis of positions expressed back in December 2021. But limiting the topic of negotiations to Ukraine alone will not suit anyone and is of no interest to our Russian side.
  26. 0
    2 February 2025 06: 52
    the speed with which Israel signed a peace treaty with terrorists from the Gaza Strip, which effectively became an admission of Jerusalem's defeat

    This is not a defeat, but a release of resources to accomplish the main task. Hamas and Hezbollah are incapable of combat, Syria is destroyed, the Houthis pose no danger. All that remains is to punish their sponsor. And it seems Trump is not against it.
  27. 0
    2 February 2025 06: 55
    Russia is the only country in the world capable of destroying the United States

    The USSR could destroy the USA, and the Russian Federation could only cause some damage, since the deployed nuclear warheads would only be enough for that.
  28. -1
    2 February 2025 06: 59
    Donald Trump needs to get to the heart of the matter.

    This is the advice that Trump:
    1. Doesn't hear.
    2. Not interesting.
    Trump is a capitalist trader and will bargain, attack, bargain, beat, bargain, deceive and bargain again.
  29. 0
    2 February 2025 15: 59
    and why on earth does the respected author speak on behalf of Russia? This is exactly the same "no, period!"
    well, at least "in my understanding, this is not beneficial for us", or if the crown is really burning your head, "if I were the President, I would not agree to this"...

    but substituting your opinion for the opinion of everyone else and/or the legally elected authorities... well, that's it...
    in the neighboring country, fanatical Nazis also shut everyone's mouths and "don't make any compromises"... so here we want to live by the orders of an uncompromising, loud minority?
  30. 0
    2 February 2025 16: 17
    He jumped out all fluffy and in white. It was high time to stop selling them titanium and uranium. And if the Tax Code is made like in the USA, they will throw away the white rag. Or Georgia and others were not oppressed for copying the US laws?
  31. 0
    3 February 2025 16: 53
    So much talk about money, about the army and the EU with NATO. But somehow they don't talk much about people. About dead comrades, about tortured prisoners, about Russian Porechny, about Sudzha.
  32. 0
    6 February 2025 03: 09
    Today Zelensky breathed a sigh of relief, Putin has already become, according to Peskov, ready to negotiate with Zelensky. Has Trump reached the Kremlin?
    I have never heard that Stalin was ready to negotiate with Hitler. And nowhere is it written that Roosevelt or Churchill persuaded the USSR leadership to stop the war with Nazi Germany?
  33. 0
    7 February 2025 11: 39
    Our idiot politicians have already agreed to everything and will sign everything, and our PR people from the media will present any result from all irons as an unparalleled victory of victories! They did not want to fight since 2014 and do not want to. It is not even worth mentioning a victory when after 3 years of war neither Bankovaya, nor Koncha Zaspa, not a single Ukrainian moron making critical decisions has suffered. The historical analogies here are generally depressing: "Lenin simply destroyed all key opponents by the 3rd year of the Civil War, and Stalin reached Western Ukraine by the 3rd year of the Great Patriotic War, and Putin's 3nd counterattack was launched by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region of the Russian Federation itself in the 2rd year of the Civil War!!!"
    Question for the VO forum members: "What other options does our down-to-earth political class have?"