Self-propelled guns "Koksan" in the Russian army: rumors and evidence

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Self-propelled guns "Koksan" in the Russian army: rumors and evidence
One of the first photographs of the alleged transportation of Koksans across Russia, November 2024. Photo Telegram / "Oboronka"


In recent months, rumors have been circulating abroad about military-technical cooperation between Russia and the DPRK related to the Special Operation to Protect Donbass. Allegedly, the Russian army receives certain systems and weapons from its North Korean colleagues. Recently, self-propelled guns, known under the code name "Koksan", have been regularly mentioned in this context. Allegedly, Russia has already received a large amount of such equipment and is even actively using it at the front.



Rumors and evidence


The first rumors about the possible delivery of artillery systems from the DPRK to Russia appeared in the fall of 2023. At that time, foreign media wrote that several supply agreements were signed during Kim Jong-un's official visit to Russia. However, no evidence was provided, and it was just another "sensation" and banal rumors.

It was only in mid-November 2024 that the first signs of possible cooperation in the field appeared artillery. Photographs, presumably taken in Russia, were published on specialized resources. The pictures showed a train carrying armored vehicles. Among the cargo, one could recognize a Korean-made self-propelled artillery unit known as "Koksan". It is unknown when and where the train was heading.

Almost immediately on these news Ukrainian intelligence agencies responded. They reported that Russia had already received 60 Korean self-propelled guns, some of which were intended for training units. It is unclear where Kyiv could have gotten this information from. It is entirely possible that this was a routine “working out” of an information pretext, disguised as intelligence data.

In mid-December, a video from the railway appeared. An unknown cameraman filmed a train with self-propelled guns passing through an unknown railway station. The video showed a large number of Koksans on platforms. Judging by the snow on the ground, the video was made shortly before its open publication.


Train with Korean self-propelled guns, December 2024. Photo Telegram / "Military Informant"

The next train with the supposed Korean artillery units was filmed no later than the beginning of the twenties of January 2025. Interestingly, this time the frame showed not only self-propelled guns, but also an unknown model of equipment hidden under camouflage nets. The self-propelled guns, in turn, were transported openly.

There is no official information about possible deliveries of Korean artillery to Russia yet. However, previously published photos and videos can be considered sufficient evidence and indicate the existence of such cooperation.

In the troops and at the front


The supposed delivery of Korean self-propelled guns was predictably linked to the Special Operation and the desire of the Russian army to strengthen its artillery units. However, for several weeks such ideas remained at the level of assumptions and did not have even indirect confirmation.

Only in early January, a short video appeared in specialized sources, which allegedly captured the Koksan self-propelled gun at the front. It showed a combat vehicle of a recognizable appearance, located in a camouflaged position. A camouflage net was stretched over it, and various equipment was located nearby.

Several days ago, Ukrainian sources reported the beginning of the combat use of foreign self-propelled guns. They claim that the Koksans are deployed in the direction of the settlement of Liman and are actively shelling Ukrainian objects. 170-mm high-explosive shells have a great impact on targets and also demoralize Ukrainian manpower.

Thus, despite the lack of official information, Korean SPGs have apparently reached the front and are now being used for their intended purpose. Probably, as new batches arrive, such equipment will appear in different directions and reinforce the artillery there.


Train with equipment, January 2025. Photo Telegram / "Military Chronicle"

Against the backdrop of recent reports, Kiev intelligence has once again published its "intelligence". It is claimed that the Russian army already has 120 "Koksan" and the same amount of equipment is expected to be delivered in the near future. It is noteworthy that Kyiv prefers not to say what the delivery of 240 large-caliber self-propelled guns could lead to.

Technical potential


It is believed that the Koksan SPG was developed by North Korean industry no later than the mid-1978s. Foreign intelligence first learned of this vehicle in 1978 and assigned it the appropriate code name - M-1989. Later, a modernized version appeared, which was designated as M-XNUMX.

Abroad, the SPG is also called "Koksan", after the place where it was first discovered. According to some sources, in the DPRK this product is called "Juchepo" ("Juche weapon").

In the seventies and later, the Koksan was mass-produced, but the production volumes are unknown. The bulk of the vehicles went to the Korean army, but there was also some export. A certain number of self-propelled guns were sent to Iran, which used them in the war with Iraq. A small number of self-propelled guns became trophies of the Iraqi army and were used against their former owners.

The Juchepo self-propelled gun is built on a medium chassis tank T-54/55 or its Chinese version "Type 59". All unnecessary units were removed from the original vehicle, and the chassis was "turned around" with the engine compartment moved forward. The control compartment was placed in the nose of the updated hull, and an open gun mount was placed in the stern.


Self-propelled gun "Koksan" of the Korean army. Photo Wikimedia Commons

The total length of the self-propelled gun in the marching position reaches 15 m, width - 3,3 m, height - 3,1 m. Combat weight - about 40 tons. The tank chassis provides a fairly high level of mobility and cross-country ability on various terrain.

The self-propelled gun is armed with a 170-mm rifled gun, presumably based on a coastal gun. The gun has a rifled barrel with a muzzle brake and a semi-automatic breech. There are hydropneumatic recoil devices. It is assumed that the breech of the system is equipped with an automatic mechanism for loading the projectile and charge.

The gun uses 170 mm separate-case loading rounds. Several types of shells with different effects are known. In the first version, the SPG could not transport ammunition, but after the modernization of the eighties, it was equipped with a rack for 12 rounds. The large mass of ammunition limits the rate of fire: a trained crew spends at least 1 minute on each shot.

The large caliber of the gun provides the corresponding fire characteristics. The firing range of the 170 mm gun is estimated at 45-50 km. There is information about the existence of active-reactive projectiles with a flight range of up to 60 km. In terms of firing range, the Koksan surpasses all 152 and 155 mm caliber systems. In addition, there are obvious advantages in the power of the ammunition and the impact on the target.

Useful novelty


Apparently, the Russian army has indeed received a number of North Korean self-propelled guns with large-caliber guns. By now, the first batches of such equipment could have reached the front and taken part in combat operations. Moreover, the enemy has already reported that it had to come under fire from 170-mm guns.

It is obvious that our army acquired foreign SPGs to obtain certain advantages, and it is not difficult to guess what exactly. In a number of characteristics, the Koksan is superior to the current artillery of the main types available to the enemy. As a result, additional advantages are achieved and the overall effectiveness of our artillery increases.


View from another angle. You can see the open gun mount. Photo Wikimedia Commons

The main advantage of the 170 mm M-1978 SPG is its increased firing range. This self-propelled gun can attack distant targets without fear of return fire from any enemy guns. Such capabilities will be useful both in conventional strikes and in counter-battery combat. The presence of an active-reactive projectile provides additional advantages.

"Koksan" is inferior to other self-propelled guns in rate of fire. However, the mass and power of each projectile compensate for this disadvantage. In addition, the work of the SPG in batteries and the duration of fire are of great importance. Competent organization of combat work allows you to get all the desired effects and realize the main advantages of this combat vehicle.

It should be noted that our army already has large-caliber systems that are superior to the enemy's equipment. The 2S7M Malka self-propelled gun with a 203 mm caliber gun and even higher combat characteristics is in service. At the same time, the presence of a domestic self-propelled gun does not exclude the possibility of using an imported one. In this case, the enemy's targets can be distributed between different self-propelled guns, based on various considerations.

New opportunities


Thus, the Russian army uses various opportunities to increase the effectiveness of its actions. In particular, it was considered possible to purchase large-caliber self-propelled guns manufactured by a friendly state. By now, such equipment has entered the Special Operation zone and helps solve common tasks.

It is unknown how soon all the details of the deployment and use of the Koksans will become known. However, it is already clear what benefit our artillery will receive from such equipment, and what risks its appearance poses for the enemy.
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  1. +8
    28 January 2025 04: 45
    SPG 2S7M "Malka" yes, this equipment exists, but the whole question is how many of them there are.... It's good if there are 100, and if you consider that the SPG needs to be taken out from time to time to replace the barrel, then there will be even less on the LBS. hi
    1. +11
      28 January 2025 07: 59
      Here is another question, do these barrels exist, because the only company that specializes in barrels shakes and throws. https://kommersant-ru.turbopages.org/turbo/kommersant.ru/s/doc/6478211
      1. -3
        28 January 2025 09: 33
        Yes, everything is fine - business in the Tatar way, and the Tatars are also ripping off UAZs.
      2. 0
        28 January 2025 13: 50
        Is this really the only enterprise producing barrels? The open press had, to put it mildly, different data.
        1. +1
          28 January 2025 22: 55
          This is the largest for the ground forces. In the small arms industry, for example, IZHMASH will be the largest in terms of production volume, although there is also Molot-Oruzhie (Vyatskiye Polyany) and Tula and Kovrovtsy. But if IZHMASH is shaken, the others will not be able to replace the enterprise from Udmurtia in terms of volumes and deadlines, do you understand what I mean?
    2. 0
      28 January 2025 13: 22
      Time is not less than the entire campaign, in the case of SVO
  2. +5
    28 January 2025 05: 33
    I wonder if there are 170mm guided projectiles, are they there? If so, what is known about them?
    1. +4
      28 January 2025 08: 15
      Nothing is known, although the DPRK often reports on its achievements in the military field. But due to the power of the shells, Koksans cause more damage to enemy strongholds, which is what the Ukrainian military complains about.
      But they write that 240 mm MLRS of the DPRK with a range of 120 km are supplied, which can use guided rockets, for which they were modernized last year. They are used for strikes on enemy reinforcements in the Sumy region and for counter-battery fire. The modernization was apparently carried out according to the model of the 300 mm MLRS of the DPRK with a range of 200 km and using guided rockets. Apparently due to problems with target designation, 300 mm MLRS are not supplied to our troops, since their range is excessive in the conditions of the SVO.
    2. +3
      28 January 2025 13: 24
      There will also be VT shells. Each war greatly accelerates the development of the participating equipment. That's why the Koreans joined in.
    3. 2al
      +3
      29 January 2025 09: 41
      Kim Jong-un holds his hand on the adjustable fuse, a 152mm projectile. Next to it is a 170mm projectile, i.e. the projectile has a regular fuse replaced with a fuse with the ability to adjust using GNSS. The air-to-air deflection of a fragmentation projectile is certainly improved, but not radically, but the combination of air detonation of a fragmentation projectile or for a cluster projectile with a self-defense system is more than acceptable.
    4. 0
      30 January 2025 19: 20
      There are not 170 mm, but 180. We measured according to our own rules, and with crooked hands. The S-23 cannon is of Korean manufacture on a self-propelled chassis. There are no corrected shells, at that time they did not exist. But there should be enough of the rest in warehouses.
  3. +45
    28 January 2025 05: 40
    But how they laughed at the DPRK in the Russian Federation. And in the end it became the only country that provided real assistance to the Russian Federation, not just words.
    1. +27
      28 January 2025 05: 44
      Fact. Indisputable.... Belarusians and Koreans, that's all. The Chinese are traders, they sell everything to everyone, as long as they pay money.
      1. 0
        28 January 2025 13: 27
        Koreans are not for nothing either. For bread, oil, technology. Blood spilled for an ally has no price.
        1. -1
          28 January 2025 19: 18
          Blood spilled for an ally has no price.
          it does, if anything happens we too will have to shed blood for the Koreans
          1. 0
            29 January 2025 21: 49
            And it won't be for free either.
    2. +15
      28 January 2025 07: 57
      But how they laughed at the DPRK in Russia.

      not only laughed...
      Iran and North Korea suffered under DAM's rule
    3. +3
      28 January 2025 11: 14
      Why did you laugh at the Koreans?
      1. +4
        28 January 2025 11: 19
        Ask official Russian propagandists and the country's leaders about this.
        1. +1
          28 January 2025 11: 23
          So you were like a weather vane, someone from somewhere ordered you to laugh at the Koreans, you salute and start laughing at the Koreans?
    4. +7
      28 January 2025 16: 07
      What about the Persians?
      With the sudden appearance of Geraniums/Shahids?
    5. 2al
      +2
      29 January 2025 09: 45
      Until now, the Russian Federation has not officially withdrawn from the UN sanctions regime against the DPRK, although it has vetoed the activities of the commission of inspectors for the implementation of sanctions.
  4. +20
    28 January 2025 05: 46
    I just can't get my head around it. The West supplies Ukraine with weapons not in pieces, but in tens of thousands of tons. Who the hell cares whether the Russian Federation buys weapons abroad or not?
  5. +19
    28 January 2025 05: 48
    Motovilikha, all circles of hell with bankruptcy, now it is being restored, but new machines cannot be bought abroad. Plant 9 is modern, but it is sharpened for smoothbore tank guns.
    That's why we have to buy artillery abroad.
    And how many disputes there were about whether to bankrupt Motovilikha or not...
    1. +8
      28 January 2025 09: 36
      What did the Russian Ministry of Defense not know about the situation at the strategic enterprise?
      Why couldn't the enterprise be nationalized?
      Or did Rostec try again - brought the enterprise to bankruptcy in order to take over it later?
      1. +1
        28 January 2025 18: 00
        I wonder how the defense company ended up in private hands?
    2. +3
      28 January 2025 09: 37
      I wish these bankrupt people would be grabbed by the ear and put in the sun, and higher up so that there would be a guarantee, but unfortunately this is all a dream
    3. -2
      28 January 2025 13: 29
      These guns were not purchased. The contingent simply brought them with them. And how else!? Where would the infantry fight without artillery?
  6. -26
    28 January 2025 06: 08
    I think that the Koreans should thank us, and not we should buy from them. The Koreans have not had combat experience and testing of troops and weapons since the 50s, and here is such a chance, so they are testing their units and equipment.
    1. +26
      28 January 2025 06: 53
      If you are drowning and a passerby saves you, SHOULD HE THANK YOU for gaining experience as a rescuer?
      1. -1
        3 February 2025 14: 34
        Firstly, we are not drowning, secondly, we are not being saved, and thirdly, the DPRK has gaps on the 58th parallel and the northerners really need experienced troops. The DPRK is biased towards the military-industrial complex and has problems with food, so guns in exchange for butter is a very profitable solution, given that there are unused weapons in the warehouses for write-off, in short, we are a very profitable partner for comrade Un.
  7. BAI
    +14
    28 January 2025 06: 08
    If Koksan helps plug our 30-50 km gap, then they will be very useful.
    1. -2
      28 January 2025 13: 34
      There is no hole there and no lag. Don't make things up. 30-50 km is the task of MLRS, and Russia has everything in order there.
      1. +3
        28 January 2025 17: 30
        30-50 km is the task of MLRS, and Russia has everything in order there.

        kilometers cannot be a task. It is only a distance with which the task can be accomplished.
        MLRS "30-50km" we have Uragans and Smerchs. With an emphasis on cluster options for loading rockets. Otherwise, their effectiveness tends to zero. Good luck to you picking at some stronghold with Uragans and Smerchs. Which is exactly the task of barrel artillery in the armies of the world.
        1. 0
          29 January 2025 21: 47
          Hurricanes and tornadoes hit precisely the strongholds. And the concentration points. The positions of artillery, MLRS and tactical means. Which are located precisely at 30-50. In the depth or to the side, along the neighbor's front.
  8. -5
    28 January 2025 07: 20
    for now it still looks like one or more trains with these self-propelled guns are simply driving around the country to annoy Zelenograd and NATO
  9. +4
    28 January 2025 07: 55
    Our army already has large-caliber systems that are superior to the enemy's equipment.. It is in service SAU 2C7M "Malka" with a 203 mm caliber gun

    so the enemy has it too: the weapon is Soviet, not Russian...
    1. 0
      28 January 2025 13: 36
      Russia also has a 180mm S-23 gun.
    2. -1
      28 January 2025 13: 54
      It was produced in Russia, and developed in Russia. So there is no contradiction.
      1. 0
        30 January 2025 12: 35
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        It was produced in Russia and developed in Russia.

        Yeah... but by the same logic it turns out that Yuzhmash’s ballistic missiles and Antonov’s aircraft are Ukrainian.
        1. 0
          30 January 2025 12: 38
          Is this a revelation for you? Well, try to tell Ukraine that Antonov's planes are not theirs, but joint ones. You will hear many interesting things addressed to you.
          Denying Russia the right to call its own artillery of its own design and manufacture is something.
          1. 0
            30 January 2025 13: 12
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            Denying Russia the right to call its own artillery of its own design and manufacture is something.

            The RSFSR conducted its own weapons development? How much we don't know about the USSR...

            Everything that was developed in the USSR is Soviet. There was no separate Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. back then.
            Otherwise, we will slide down to the level of Ukrainians who attribute to Ukraine everything that people, design bureaus and factories that were at least once located on its current territory were involved in. Even if these people themselves did not consider themselves Ukrainians and independent and independent saw in a coffin.
            1. -1
              30 January 2025 13: 14
              To be ashamed to admit one's own developments as one's own means to sink to the level of Ukraine? I don't see any sense in such morality.
  10. +2
    28 January 2025 08: 04
    They are simply testing the equipment in real combat operations. It is useful for them and helps us. Normal practice. Plus, our designers have something to look at, maybe the Koreans have come up with something clever...
  11. +13
    28 January 2025 08: 42
    Hmmm...! A person can't live without faith! He can't! In Ukraine they pray to the "holy" Javelin; and in Russia they rely on the almighty "Koksan"! But in fact, in Russia they are trying to cover up the mistakes made by the Russian Ministry of Defense and the state authorities with "Koksan"! The Russian army had and still has "Peonies", "Malki"! As many as 203 mm! What else do you need? Oh, there aren't enough of them! Not enough! And who's to blame that there aren't "enough"? After all, some time ago there was a plan to improve 203 mm artillery systems! It was supposed to develop new shells of an improved aerodynamic shape with bottom gas generators with an increase in range by 20-30%! To develop correctable shells! Active-reactive with a 2-fold increase in range! Such measures did not exclude the resumption of production of 203 mm artillery systems! And why the hell was this needed? Yes, it is needed, if you take into account the actual and awesome lag of Russian artillery in the 152 mm caliber from NATO 155 mm artillery and the lack of new developments ready for immediate production! But the Russian Ministry of Defense "scratched "turnip"... they raised their hand with a writing pen to sign... and then suddenly lowered it with the words: Oh, shit, 203mm artillery! Let's wait for new 152mm guns! Well, of course! Nobody was planning to fight! And war was not visible on the horizon! (At least in the offices of the Ministry of Defense!) But now the old "cokes" are welcome!
    1. -10
      28 January 2025 13: 40
      Where did they come up with the idea that there is a shortage? There is artillery for a big war, 5 million men are mobilized. Many times more than the current staff. There are not enough people, there are weapons. It is time to declare a full mobilization, the people will understand.
      1. +2
        28 January 2025 16: 29
        people will understand.

        You - Yes
        Many - no
        5 million men are being mobilized. Many times more than the current staff. There are not enough people, but there are weapons.

        I'm not so sure about that.
        1. -1
          29 January 2025 21: 41
          So there are enough people? And that's all Russia can arm? And it was impossible to produce more weapons in 3 years? Then why did it have to start?
      2. +7
        28 January 2025 19: 21
        Quote: stankow
        There are not enough people, but there are weapons.

        We have weapons... what weapons? The 130mm M-46, 122mm D-74, T-62 and BTR-50 tanks, once decommissioned and now returned "to the front"?! Well... we really do have a ton of those weapons! The 100mm BS-3, 85mm D-44,76, 3mm ZiS-82, 107mm and 160mm recoilless rifles, 240mm and 2mm towed mortars, RPG-XNUMX, PPSh have not yet been thrown into battle! Yes! They haven't had time to use the Tsar Cannon near the Kremlin yet!
        1. -3
          29 January 2025 21: 43
          Your "listing" is so one-sided and biased that it is not worth the effort to object to it.
          1. +3
            29 January 2025 22: 07
            Quote: stankow
            Your "listing" is so one-sided and biased that it is not worth the effort to object to it.

            Why the hell did they answer you if you are so proud and touchy? laughing lol bully
            1. 0
              30 January 2025 12: 52
              Purely speculatively, some of the seemingly insurmountable shortcomings of obsolete medium and small-caliber artillery have been overcome in our time.
              Armor penetration can be improved by introducing modern cumulative fragmentation ammunition for 76 and 82 mm calibers. Monitoring explosions for fire adjustment, in the presence of reconnaissance drones, also does not cause difficulties. Non-contact fuses, if not commonplace, are close to it. The enemy has appeared cluster mines in 81-mm caliber.
              So, some things, of course, with a comprehensive approach, may return to circulation.
            2. 0
              30 January 2025 22: 50
              I'm not offended at all. It's just that you're so far removed from the state of affairs that it would take an eternity to convince you. And I doubt you need a true picture.
    2. 0
      29 January 2025 11: 52
      Yes, it is necessary, if we take into account the actual and incredible lag of Russian artillery in 152 mm caliber compared to NATO 155 mm artillery and the lack of new developments ready for immediate production


      In my opinion, it is debatable. If there is a lag, it must be overcome. And about the lack of something ready for production - so were all the new shells for the Malka listed by you, and the Malka itself, ready for production?

      If there are long-range systems available, they should be used. If something new needs to be developed, it should be developed in modern calibers and closer to mass production. In my opinion, something like that.
      1. +2
        30 January 2025 12: 57
        No, it's not like that, there are targets that are difficult for a 152mm caliber and require multiple hits, like bridges. But for a 240mm mortar and a 203mm howitzer, they are not that difficult.
        p.s. if we transfer 203 mm howitzers with the appropriate equipment to the regimental level, we will be able to observe with our own eyes how quickly the enemy’s rear infrastructure will begin to collapse.
        1. 0
          30 January 2025 14: 02
          p.s. if we transfer 203 mm howitzers with the appropriate equipment to the regimental level, we will be able to observe with our own eyes how quickly the enemy's rear infrastructure will begin to collapse

          I wonder if they themselves, at the regimental level, won’t become an easy target given their size and mobility?
          1. +1
            30 January 2025 14: 07
            And how do they not become an easy target with their current level of subordination? Are they less likely to go to the combat line now? So, what was I talking about? We need to hit everything that is accessible in the immediate enemy rear, bridges, dams, railway stations, depots and substations.
            Would the mine shaft near Ugledar have stood for long if the attack aircraft had at their backs the support of at least semi-direct fire from 203 mm howitzers?
            The same Wagnerites, acting on a purely tactical level, received 152-mm howitzers at their disposal. This means there is a demand for medium and large caliber at the tactical level.
            1. 0
              30 January 2025 22: 05
              How do they not become an easy target with their current level of subordination? Are they less likely to go to the combat line now?

              That would be my expectation. The higher the level of subordination, the further from the front line. Isn't regimental artillery more limited in its choice of position range?
              Would the mine shaft near Ugledar have stood for long if the attack aircraft had at their backs the support of at least semi-direct fire from 203 mm howitzers?

              Well, wouldn't the howitzer itself be detected from the shaft of the mine at semi-direct fire?
              The same Wagnerites, acting on a purely tactical level, received 152-mm howitzers at their disposal.

              Yes, their boss even posed against the backdrop of the "Malka".
              This means that there is a demand for medium and large caliber weapons at the tactical level.

              It is indisputable.
      2. +1
        30 January 2025 17: 16
        Quote: alexmach
        Were the new shells for Malka that you listed and Malka itself ready for production?

        They would have been ready if they hadn’t been “slowed down” by the Russian Ministry of Defense!
  12. +3
    28 January 2025 09: 22
    Thanks to the North Koreans, no matter how much we spat in their well after 1991, we didn’t refuse, although we could have gone with the principle of “to hell with your grain, money, lifting sanctions, etc., we still won’t give you weapons.”
    1. -9
      28 January 2025 11: 18
      Why did you spit in the Koreans' well?
      1. +2
        28 January 2025 16: 35
        President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the introduction of restrictive measures against the DPRK in connection with the country's ongoing testing of nuclear weapons and their delivery systems; the document was published on the official legal information portal. The decree was signed in connection with the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution No. 2321 of November 31, 2016.
    2. +1
      28 January 2025 14: 11
      Yes. I am also surprised that after we practically joined the camp of their enemies, after the famine in Korea in the 90s, they still help us. They could have said, we with China, the middle state will provide us with everything and help us. But you did not support us in difficult times, we are not going to help you either. We are not interested in the problems of white people.
  13. +4
    28 January 2025 09: 37
    Quote: Aleksey24
    The Koreans have had no combat experience or testing of troops and weapons since the 50s, and here is such a chance, so they are testing their units and equipment

    I think that we should thank the Ukrainians because - "...there has been no combat experience and testing of troops and weapons since the 50s, and here is such a chance, so they are testing their units and equipment..."
  14. -6
    28 January 2025 09: 38
    Quote from AdAstra
    Thanks to the North Koreans, no matter how much we spat in their well after 1991, we didn’t refuse, although we could have gone with the principle of “to hell with your grain, money, lifting sanctions, etc., we still won’t give you weapons.”

    There is no need for illusions - the Koreans are not just shipping equipment, but for natural resources - it is stupid to rejoice in this fact.
    1. +2
      28 January 2025 17: 48
      Why not be happy about a good deal?
  15. +6
    28 January 2025 10: 34
    Apparently, talk about the "motherland's stockpiles" in which weapons and equipment have been accumulated for several world wars - turned out to be just talk. Since the collapse of the Union, everything accumulated was simply sold off quietly. And now, just 3 years after the start of the Central Military District, which in terms of the scale of military operations is significantly smaller than any of the WWII fronts, they are already forced to request equipment from the allies. Despite the fact that the problem did not UNEXPECTEDLY occur, even at the end of the first year, they stated that there was a shortage of equipment or shells. In the second year, they even began to remove equipment from storage from the 50s (at the beginning they said that this was not true and a provocation, and a couple of months later they were already saying that such equipment, on the contrary, is better suited to the conditions of the Central Military District and that it is the pride of the army).
    Have reserves, production and logistics really dropped THAT much compared to the Soviet period?!?!
    1. +1
      28 January 2025 12: 24
      of course they dropped by tens of times, and this is open information
    2. +1
      28 January 2025 12: 27
      Comrade Booth probably knows a little about this; if he knew a lot, he wouldn't be sitting in the US but living there
  16. +3
    28 January 2025 10: 55
    Caliber is not everything. Accuracy at extreme distances is important. And it in turn depends on the gun and tolerances in the manufacture of the barrel, on the design of the shells and their "sameness" at least within the batch, on the speed of delivery of target data and corrections, on the accuracy of firing tables, on the timeliness of new weather, on the coherence of the calculation and much more. And at a low rate of fire, these factors are even more significant. But thank God at least this data is not in the public domain.
  17. +3
    28 January 2025 11: 50
    Quote: Aleksey24
    The Koreans have had no combat experience or testing of troops and weapons since the 50s, but here is such a chance, so they are testing their units and equipment.

    It is true that they gain experience, but not for Koksan. These guns were used in the Iran-Iraq war. So they have combat experience since the late 80s, and then they were modernized.
  18. 0
    28 January 2025 12: 06
    It's clear that we need to take it.
    At least test the caliber.
    It's just a question of logistics and ammunition.
    170mm is not typical for us; we don’t have any Soviet reserves.
    1. +1
      30 January 2025 13: 37
      There is nothing special to test. When the USSR was deciding on a howitzer on a tracked chassis, they also chose a caliber between 180, 210 and 203 mm. The result of the choice can be seen in the form of the 2S7 product.
  19. +3
    28 January 2025 14: 07
    It would be better if they showed a video of Koksany shooting at Banderovites. That would be more pleasing. But they show a video of them driving back and forth.
  20. +3
    28 January 2025 14: 08
    The main photo, by the way, shows why it is impossible to hide the transfer of troops from enemy intelligence in our time. Because everything is transported openly, without hiding anything.
    1. 0
      30 January 2025 13: 38
      Efficient managers have proven to be overly efficient. They economize on both tarpaulins and camouflage nets.
    2. -1
      30 January 2025 23: 05
      Sometimes, even often, what is needed is precisely the enemy saw the transfer of troops and equipment. For disinformation or for political effect.
      1. 0
        31 January 2025 00: 53
        Yeah, and tanks are transported from and to factories on open platforms in accordance with a cunning plan. And in general, the entire SVO is overflowing with so many tricks that convincing a huge number of Russians of the impotence of those in power and the incompetence of the army leadership is also part of the plan. And in general, this is a cunning plan of Gorbachev, who, although he died, his path to the greatness of the country continues
        1. 0
          2 February 2025 16: 57
          Why hide the fact that the tank is being transported to the factory? Enemy aircraft are raging in our native skies?
  21. +2
    28 January 2025 15: 41
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Caliber is not everything. Accuracy at extreme distances is important.

    There is a very plausible theory that the Koksan is a development of the German 170 mm K18 gun, which the USSR gave to the DPRK during the Korean War for coastal artillery. If so, then the German gun uses a double recoil, and the Korean one adds a muzzle brake. This should significantly reduce the load when firing and increase accuracy. The German gun, 80 years ago, had very good accuracy at long range.
    1. -1
      29 January 2025 00: 03
      No. This gun has a caliber of 180 mm and is a development of the Soviet S-23 gun.
      1. 0
        3 February 2025 19: 16
        [quote][No. This gun has a caliber of 180 mm and is a development of the Soviet S-23 gun/quote]
        Where did you get this from?
  22. +2
    28 January 2025 17: 52
    Are they catching this spy operator? When they catch him, they'll impale him.
    1. 0
      30 January 2025 13: 40
      You should be impaled right away! am We need to spank, spank! wassat
  23. -2
    28 January 2025 18: 33
    [quote=stankow]Why not be happy about a good deal?[/quote
    Because exporting resources to the outside makes them more expensive inside.
  24. 0
    28 January 2025 19: 27
    Of course! After all, the democrats destroyed the Soviet military-industrial complex and sold off everything they could. Even the Kalashnikov concern was sold into private hands. And then military actions began, and suddenly it turned out that we had a catastrophic shortage of equipment and weapons...
    1. 0
      15 February 2025 13: 33
      Not democrats, but capitalists.
  25. 0
    28 January 2025 21: 33
    Quote: Old electrician
    I just can't get my head around it. The West supplies Ukraine with weapons not in pieces, but in tens of thousands of tons. Who the hell cares whether the Russian Federation buys weapons abroad or not?

    Well, traditionally - It's different. That's the whole answer.
  26. +1
    28 January 2025 22: 05
    Finally, a system for destroying NATO systems has appeared. Thanks to the North Korean comrades!
  27. 0
    29 January 2025 05: 02
    The Ukrainian army is supplied by NATO, and that's half the world... and that's where the navel comes untied. And Russia should fight this Nazi scum alone? No. Therefore, supplies from friendly countries are good.
  28. +1
    29 January 2025 23: 56
    Quote: stankow
    Russia also has a 180mm S-23 gun.

    Very few of them were made, and do they survive?
    1. 0
      3 February 2025 19: 19
      The answer is simple - Russia does not have 180mm S-23 guns. They wrote that they were already gone in the 70s and had to be made anew for the Syrians.