Degradation and disintegration of society, what will save?

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Degradation and disintegration of society, what will save?From the drafts of the 7 book “Experience of Survival”

What is the cause of the death of empires and states? What are the main factors leading to the degradation and disintegration of society?

PHENOMENON OF STALIN

Studies on this topic so far almost was not. And now, relatively recently, an English scientist, after many years of painstaking research, was able to answer this question. The answer was unexpected: the cause of death of any state, as a rule, is the suicidal behavior of its leader. The researcher, however, failed to explain what could be the basis of the leader’s suicidal behavior. But this topic deserves attention.

For Russia, this topic is particularly relevant. What motivated Gorbachev when he began to destroy his own state under the guise of reforms? Why was Yeltsin a great destroyer?

Those who try to explain what happened from a political or economic point of view, give out rather superficial and primitive answers and conclusions. Why did Stalin create a great state, strengthened the country, and Khrushchev began to destroy it?

Politically or economically, these phenomena cannot be explained. The roots of any person’s behavior are related to his mentality, his psychology. A spiritually strong person is different from a weak one, first of all, by the presence of a supertask, a goal to which he is striving.

Any function exists and develops while there is a goal. Loss of purpose leads to the destruction of the function. A person who has lost goals, falls into depression, becomes weak and dependent.

The strength of any state is connected with its ideology. The state is a function, and ideology defines the main goals. The destruction of ideology inevitably leads to the death of the state.

In the 80 of the last century, communist ideology showed its inconsistency. Gorbachev could no longer promise the current generation that it would live under communism. The whole system of Gorbachev’s goals was reduced to a miserable slogan: “To everyone - in the flat by 2000 year!” From political slogans he turned to economic ones. His cowardice and dependence were the result of the collapse of all the usual goals.

So, the suicidal actions of the leaders are the result of the absence of ideology or its inferiority. But why, then, did Stalin manage to create a great state? What ideology was he guided by?

A few days ago turned 60 years since the death of Stalin. A communist delegation laid wreaths at his grave. The example of the rule of Stalin, like the experience of China, the Communists consider their main trump cards. But if we analyze the experience of Stalin and the People’s Republic of China, we will come to completely unexpected conclusions. Their successes are not due to the communist ideology, but, on the contrary, its liquidation.

In the past two thousand years, many concepts of a just and happy society have emerged. As for communism, an attempt was made to implement it. From the point of view of communism, in order to make people happy, it is necessary to perform three actions:

1. eliminate the state;

2. eliminate the family;

3. eliminate private property.

Lenin honestly tried to follow these principles. Abortions were allowed. On Red Square, parades of naked Komsomol members were repeatedly held. And then the country began to plunge into chaos - moral, political and economic.

The so-called new economic policy returned private property, but did not return morality. Merchants gradually began to take power into their own hands. The country was doomed.

Stalin went to the cruel, bloodthirsty measures, but saved the state. The secret of his behavior can be revealed in one word - the Caucasus.

Any Caucasian knows what is needed to save his tribe and his people. First of all, we need a strong family, family clans, where everyone cares about each other and protects each other. Any Caucasian knows that the destruction of the state is the death of the people, that the immoral behavior of a woman is the disintegration of the family.

Stalin began to strengthen the state, to restore the institution of the family - that is, he was guided not by communist ideology, but by common sense. Of the three main points of the doctrine of communism, he threw two away, leaving one — the abolition of private property. By the way, he also gradually refused to equalize. In the prewar years, high-level specialists received a lot of money.

Stalin's brutality was due to the fact that he had the ideology of the Caucasian prince. This ideology had nothing to do with communism. Therefore, Stalin actually had no team and no successors. In fact, he single-handedly promoted the idea of ​​saving the family and morality, exterminating those who tried to destroy both the state and the family under the guise of democracy.

What is the reason for the success of China?

1. The Chinese, instead of destroying the state, began to strengthen it.

2. The Chinese began to take care of strengthening the family.

3. The Chinese gradually introduced private ownership of the means of production.

In fact, it turns out that not one of the three main provisions of communism in China is left. Due to this, China has achieved great success in economics and politics.

Then the question arises: what kind of system in the Chinese state? What is this strange socialism with Chinese characteristics?

In order to answer this question, you need to remember how socialism appeared. It was a reaction to the crisis of the European political system. The disastrous tendencies of capitalism became apparent a couple of centuries ago.

Karl Marx presented socialism as the antipode of the decaying bourgeois society. The main reason for all the trouble was declared private property. The family was also declared private property. And the state, as an apparatus of violence, also served as the property of the elite.

So, according to Marx, the main cause of evil is the factory owners. It is private ownership of the state, the family and the instruments of production. The recipe for happiness was therefore quite simple: evil must be replaced with its antipode-good, that is, the elimination of private property. This is the essence of communism.

But all the theories of Marx were a hoax. In fact, it was one of the biggest scams in stories. Wrong definition of the cause gives rise to wrong consequences. The wrong diagnosis gives rise to the wrong treatment. Damage theory creates an ugly practice. The causes of the crisis of Western society and the degradation of the socialist system, first of all, are rooted in the private banking system. And also - in the crisis of religions.

Any living organism, in order to survive, must work in three modes.

First, to respond to the present. This is momentary thinking.

Secondly - plan tomorrow. This is a tactical mindset.

Third, think about the future. This is a strategic thinking.

In any harmonious state there are groups of people with different levels of thinking - momentary issues are decided by traders, tactical issues are decided by politicians, strategic issues are decided by representatives of religion.

Philosophy and religion form the main system of goals and ideology. Politicians apply ideology in ruling the country and resolving conflicts with other nations. Traders are always under the control of politicians and ideologues.

The essence of capitalism is that merchants began to rule the country, that is, those people to whom tactics and strategy are alien. These people have always worked only on themselves, taking into account only their own interests.

A representative of a religion must think about morality and what will happen in the future. A politician should think about the state and the people. A merchant must think about his profit. The merchant must be under the constant control of politicians and representatives of religion, under the control of morality. A merchant who has gone out of control of politicians and ideology begins to rob, steal, and lead society to ruin.

Capitalism is the victory of traders over politicians. Why did this happen? Because religion, which, by its nature, was supposed to advise and guide politicians, in the Middle Ages in Europe began to engage in commerce. Priests became merchants. Accordingly, politicians who previously focused on morality began to focus on money and profit.

Politicians went to the merchants. Sooner or later, traders had to win. And this victory came through private banks. Through the creation of their own money, which initially looked like bank guarantees, and then turned into real money.

When a trader rules a politician and a priest, then moral decay, and then the physical death of any state, is inevitable.

Despite the complete flawiness of the theory of Karl Marx, socialism still appeared in Russia. Stalin created a great state. This was not related to the liquidation of private property or the liquidation of the family. It was an intuitive attempt to put ideology and morality over politics, and politics over economics and trade. This explains the positive phenomena of socialism: planned economy, achievements in all areas - a powerful culture, the rise of art, discoveries in science and technology, the moral education of young people.

New ideology ended with the death of Stalin. Khrushchev tried to restore the ideas of communism and began to destroy everything that was created before him. The rule of Brezhnev-Gorbachev was already an agony of communist ideas.

What did China do? China has put ideology over politics, and politics over trade. This is the phenomenon of China: first - morality and patriotism, then - politics, that is, the organization of society, and then - the interests of trade. Having liquidated the state monopoly, the Chinese continued not to destroy, but to strengthen it. The main thing that they have kept is the superiority of strategy over tactics, and tactics over trade. It is through strategic thinking that China has managed to use the power of the state for long-term projects. The merchants did not pull apart the Chinese state in parts, did not plunder it, and did not turn it into an assemblage of kiosks.

But the concepts of morality and higher strategy proceed from the concepts of faith and religion, which China does not have. Therefore, merchants in China are becoming stronger, and young people are increasingly worshiping the golden calf.

The death of the Soviet Union began in the 70s of the last century, when people understood that there would be no communism. A society without a state, family and private property is not viable. When the state loses the main system of goals, ideology, it is doomed. And then any politician who internally does not have a clear and clear goal will behave suicidal. Throwing Soviet leaders, the division of society into clans, into “Westerners” and “Slavophiles” - all this is the result of the collapse of the Soviet ideology.

In China, similar processes are starting now. The Communist Party is trying to deal with it. Recently, another slogan sounded: "To boast of your wealth is ugly." The sooner the goals become weaker, the more actively begins the separation of the people - both spiritual and material. When a state ceases to be one, it dies. The Chinese government understands this and feverishly seeks salvation.

China is like a rider who does not know where to go next, and the horse, sensing this, begins to kick and rush in different directions. Russia in this regard looks like a headless horseman - the horse does everything that it wants and does not pay any attention to the horseman.

True, with the arrival of Vladimir Putin, Russia seems to have gained a new rider. It remains to determine which direction to go. In the December presidential address, the leader designated the direction - morality and patriotism. Let's see if you can create an ideology on this basis.

RUSSIAN IDEOLOGY

The citizens of the Byzantine Empire called themselves the Romans. Shortly before the demise of the state, society in Byzantium split into groups and clans. The concept of "Roman" ceased to exist. “Greeks”, “Armenians”, etc. appeared, that is, the whole society was divided along national or religious lines. Inner unity disappeared, everyone began to pull the blanket over himself. Patriotism faded away. When the Byzantine elite committed treachery by refusing to give money to restore the walls of the city, it was already a natural result. First, the country disintegrates inside, and then externally. If there is no common goal, a common ideology, if the law does not protect morality, patriotism disappears.

Where does homeland begin? Homeland begins with love for loved ones, for his people, for his country. All this is possible when there is a common goal and moral foundations that unite everyone.

Patriotism is love for the Motherland, it is the unity of all citizens. Why in Russia patriotism woke up only at the moment of impending doom? The answer is simple: Russia did not have a strong ideology. Representatives of religion carried away by the rites, the outside of the faith. Being engaged in commerce, forgot about morality. Therefore, the whole ideology in Russia has been reduced to a god-power. Not the priests, but the king was the guarantor of morality. Therefore, the weakening of the royal power in Russia actually meant her death.

Patriotism is made up of the moral goals that society sets itself. Patriotism implies the internal unity of all citizens of the state. First of all, this is unity at the family level. It is in a family that a person learns unity, love, mutual assistance and protection of each other. Unity at the family level develops into unity at the level of nationality, then into unity at the level of the people, and then into the state. Where there is no strong family, there can be no strong state.

Patriotism means love for one's homeland, readiness to protect it and die for it. The state perishes when the number of traitors begins to grow. What makes a person a traitor? What are the main factors shaping such a person? Let's try to make a psychological portrait of a traitor to the motherland.

Any scout knows what the future traitor looks like. First of all, this person is spiritually weak and dependent. But they are usually not taken into reconnaissance, they are determined immediately. Dependent and spiritually weak is the one who obeys animal instincts, who by nature is an egoist and a consumer who does not have lofty goals and no super task. The absence of moral education, the reduction of the meaning of life to pleasure - is the formation of the character of the future traitor.

So, the man received a special education and became a scout. In which case can he betray his people and his country? When he has addictions. If a scout is keen on alcohol or drugs, this is a future traitor. If he is greedy and envious, if he cannot overcome his lustfulness and lustfully looks at any beautiful woman, this is a future traitor. If he has a tendency to homosexuality, he is easy to recruit. If money is more important to him than honor and duty, sooner or later he will betray.

If you look at modern Russia from this point of view, this is a school of future traitors. Television teaches worshiping sex and debauchery. The economy teaches to steal. In schools, moral education was separated from education. Paid education in schools will make children weak, dependent and limited. Juvenile justice methodically destroys the family. The cult of money, consumerism, pleasure, pushed by liberal groups, destroys all the moral foundations on which patriotism rests. Alcoholization of the population, private production of alcohol - this is also the school of future traitors.

A state that wants to survive in the near future, first of all, should strengthen the family, since it is the basic element of the state. Let us think: what exactly destroys the family? Immoral behavior of a woman, abortion, alcoholism, the cult of pleasure, rejecting the birth of children, family planning, the promotion of a free lifestyle, the cult of money, lack of education, disrespect for parents - all these factors can be listed for a long time. One thing is clear: if Russia wants to survive, you need to stop cultivating traitors in the family, school, economy and politics.

The communists wanted to create a happy state, but forgot that it consists of individuals. In order for the state to be harmonious and healthy, it is necessary to bring up and form a harmonious person, first of all, a believer and a moral who knows how to think strategically and understands that with the loss of morality, power and money become deadly dangerous. Without patriotism and morality, Russia has no future.

Saving a family and education, raising children in and out of school is the subsistence level from which to start. The essence of liberal values ​​and freedoms is the rejection of morality in favor of animal instincts and desires. This is definitely the path of Sodom and Gomorrah. Russia can avoid this disastrous denouement.

The initiative proposed by the president is widely welcomed in all segments of the country's population. A social movement in support of a healthy and moral Russia can unite millions of people, and then the president’s initiative will not be a one-day and will not go into the sand. What is called physical health is not only quality products, it is a combination of good lifestyles and worldviews, healthy economics and politics, it is the presence of morality and faith.

The people of Russia see how dangerous the path of money and consumerism is, and is ready to follow moral guidelines. This desire will inevitably result in social movements and associations that will not fight with the government, but cooperate with it and support it.
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  1. Goga
    +11
    25 March 2013 07: 35
    Everything related to the family and a generally healthy (in every sense) way of life in the article is written correctly, only the question is a quote - "Why did Stalin create a great state, strengthen the country, and Khrushchev began to destroy it?" It has nothing to do with personality traits - it was just that the IS worked for our country, and the NSH - Trotskyist worked for the "world behind the scenes", just like the humpbacked and EBN. And the success of the Chinese is the result of the fact that their leadership works for their country and their people, and hence the attitude towards the family and everything else. hi
    1. +6
      25 March 2013 07: 46
      Quote: Gogh
      Everything related to the family and a generally healthy (in every sense) way of life in the article is written correctly, only the question is a quote - "Why did Stalin create a great state, strengthen the country, and Khrushchev began to destroy it?" It has nothing to do with personality traits - it was just that the IS worked for our country, and the NSH - Trotskyist worked for the "world behind the scenes", just like the humpbacked and EBN. And the success of the Chinese is the result of the fact that their leadership works for their country and their people, and hence the attitude towards the family and everything else.

      We need a new Stalin! But among the rabble of liberals, where to find it? But I am an optimist!
      1. +5
        25 March 2013 08: 31
        Today's liberal in Russia is an anarchist who works for the collapse of statehood for the sake of mythical Western universal values.
        Today, Russia's biggest enemy is the neoliberal.
        1. +7
          25 March 2013 12: 02
          Quote: alexneg
          Today's liberal in Russia is an anarchist

          Remember Dostoevsky? "..If someone ruins Russia, it will not be communists, not anarchists. And gentlemen, liberals ..." This is in addition to what you said.
      2. +4
        25 March 2013 09: 06
        By the way, Stalin was from the Caucasus, I wonder how they would have adopted the new Stalin from the Caucasus)))) It’s interesting but true, Russia always reached the peak of its greatness precisely when the minority ruled it. In the case of Stalin, the idea always came to my mind that the Caucasus (man) married Russia and, with Caucasian rigor and care, raised a family with a strict distribution of responsibilities. This is my opinion) Do not judge strictly) hi
        1. 0
          25 March 2013 23: 14
          Quote: INTER
          The Caucasus (man) married Russia and, with Caucasian rigor and care, raised a family with a strict distribution of responsibilities.

          but why is he raping her?
          1. 0
            26 March 2013 11: 41
            Quote: Azzzwer
            but why is he raping her?

            Sometimes all methods are good, the main thing is that after everything settles and goes smoothly. A woman loves strength and stiffness and only after all this begins to respect. In addition, e ....... and so, and here it’s tougher, I don’t see much difference. In the 90s, she was not only raped but also allowed to go ... ....... And so he himself is his legitimate))))) Is there a difference ???? hi Plus recently, the people themselves require rigidity. Yes
      3. +5
        25 March 2013 09: 59
        I do not agree, we do not need a new Stalin, but a leader - an intelligent, honest patriot, statesman, strictly following the Law. Stalin, in spite of all his greatest achievements, is also dispossession, extrajudicial killings and repressions. He stayed in his time. My opinion is that we need a leader like Lukashenko, Lee Kuan Yu, who will be able to put things in order in the economy and politics, and give people a moral direction.
        1. +2
          25 March 2013 13: 08
          We need not only a leader, smart, honest, patriotic. We need a group of leaders. which could create a new ideology and concept of educating managers and production workers, who would continue the ideological line and conception, correct them to change life over time for the benefit of the people and the country. Otherwise, this new leader will restore order, then it will cease to be like Stalin and all the robbery will begin from the beginning.
          1. +2
            25 March 2013 16: 18
            And I am for technocracy! LOT OF LAWYERS-ECONOMISTS-MANAGERS! The chairman of the state farm always held planning meetings and made decisions, which was attended only by the main specialists, Ch. Engineer, Power Engineer, Mechanic, Agronomist, Zootechnician, etc., but there were no lawyers and accountants, party organizers, and so he always said "lawyers and economists, and those like them and suppliers, these are all only servants, like cleaners", they serve those who decide, work, create and are responsible. And a friend always said about such "this is something you can live without, but not hygienic." What is the best sales manager? These are those who will sell more, which means they will lie more, which means they have no conscience, and therefore no honor ...
        2. nakaz
          +1
          25 March 2013 13: 55
          Only mass public executions of guilty officials will save Russia. It is necessary to massively nationalize the state of the oligarchy.
      4. +1
        25 March 2013 12: 51
        rabble of liberals
        Dostoevsky said: "Liberalism will destroy Russia." Apparently time has no power over this prediction. But I am also an optimist. It remains to hope for uprooting
        1. +1
          25 March 2013 14: 40
          Quote: smel

          rabble of liberals
          Dostoevsky said: "Liberalism will destroy Russia." Apparently time has no power over this prediction. But I am also an optimist. ABOUT

          To grow a cultivated plant, it is necessary to free the field from weeds. Nettle cannot be planted with a fruit plant. Yes
    2. 0
      25 March 2013 13: 08
      Quote: Gogh
      it was just that the IS worked for our country, and the NSH - Trotskyist worked for the "world behind the scenes

      if you put an idiot behind the wheel, he 100% will crash the car. Stalin was smart, wise and strong, and HGH I beg you to call things by their proper names stupid, conceited, weak idiots. Important is another HOW? And who put them in and why they were chosen, and this to all those present ?. And the world behind the scenes, accept this as a permanent factor, there is nothing to blame the neighbor for their failure.
    3. 0
      25 March 2013 15: 51
      Quote: Gogh
      And the success of the Chinese is the result of the fact that their leadership works for their country and their people, and hence the attitude to the family and everything else

      Goga, + and I will support the Kazakh story, which in detail and in colors (sometimes with a strong word) tells about his visit to one of the poor !!! areas of northern China
      http://bigpicture.ru/?p=245220
      It looks like a street on a Chinese collective farm
  2. bask
    +13
    25 March 2013 07: 35
    Good morning to everyone. The article is controversial, did not put no + no-. Now in Russia it’s not just TRADERS that prevail in politics. But they also lead the country
    And they do not give a damn about the people, the state. If only there was profit, at any cost .. The state lives without a clear ideology, plans for the future.
    The main slogan :::: THIEF HOW MUCH YOU WILL
    What to do? ONLY REFUSAL FROM wild court-oligarchic capitalism.
    AND BUILDING A SOCIALLY-ORIENTED ECONOMY.
    AND PATRIOTIC POLICY.
    Traders from the government-remove. The case for GDP. Enough declarations. THE TIME OF ACTION has come. !!!!!
    1. +8
      25 March 2013 08: 11
      Quote: bask
      Now in Russia it is not just TRADERS that prevail in politics.

      Conducted a conversation with a couple of entrepreneurs, over a glass of tea, discussed the situation in the world, So to one question, if tomorrow is war, he replied, Suitcase train station Thailand, he has a "hut" there. The second is the same. In general, they had a dialogue about work. To which the general said, are you a trade union, or a workers' advocate? what are you worried about? It's time to think about yourself . They do not want to work for this fee, hiring Gaster for less. All out. Comments are redundant.
      1. +6
        25 March 2013 08: 45
        Quote: Sirocco
        Comments are redundant

        this is the most unpleasant thing - the country in which they live, receive education, earn money, give birth to children overnight (in case of war, for example) will become unnecessary to them. and they scatter who where. and grief-patriots will run along with them (who only know how to bawl on squares and on the Internet, but they refuse to serve in the army) ...
        during the years of perestroika and crap democratization, they ceased to love and respect their homeland! chased the golden calf, forgetting about spirituality and morality ... sad
        1. +2
          25 March 2013 09: 14
          The trouble is that there are quite a lot of thinking businessmen and people who do not respect their own people. And how to deal with them? God knows him. Parasites are one word. angry
          1. +3
            25 March 2013 10: 08
            Quote: Sirocco
            And how to deal with them?

            somehow
            1. +3
              25 March 2013 12: 20
              Quote: self-propelled
              Quote: Sirocco
              And how to deal with them?

              somehow

              Not. Not so. It is necessary to raise the issue in the government, to sound the bells, to put first in any program of the parties going to the polls, the first paragraph, the paragraph on the patriotic education of youth, on the national idea. I and most of those sitting here brought up under the USSR. And each of us pronouncing the oath that GREAT MOTHERLAND knew what the Fatherland was, what was the HONOR, what was the DEBT. If this is not started now, then we will have no future. Our generation will leave and then what?
              1. 0
                25 March 2013 23: 24
                Quote: morpex
                If this is not started now, then we will have no future.

                Why aren’t we all doing it now?
                1. 0
                  26 March 2013 00: 30
                  Quote: Azzzwer
                  Why aren’t we all doing it now?

                  The government does not benefit from a people with a sense of their own consciousness, educated who have their own point of view on what is happening and are ready to defend it always and everywhere .. It is much easier to have at hand the townsfolk, such Mitrofanushki, slaves who do not remember their clan and tribe. Ancient Rome with its slogan "Bread and spectacles "... In this situation, you can do whatever you want in the country. Rob, lie, kill mercilessly exploiting your people. And no one will utter a whimper. In one word, they are now making a stupid cattle out of the people. And this is they work great ..
            2. 0
              25 March 2013 23: 21
              Quote: self-propelled
              somehow

              Better to count! so less wood is consumed.
          2. +9
            25 March 2013 10: 23
            I agree, among businessmen, as well as among other groups, there is plenty of everybody ... on. But the employers are different, you don’t have to align everyone. I am also from a small business, but I connect my life and the life of my children only with my Homeland.
            I contacted one bank with a large state participation for a loan. A man came from the bank to look at my production. And I have only two men, I work, but the driver Shurik, the rest are women. We just unloaded sugar. Well, I think the security guard came, I tell him, I have no time, go see, take pictures of everything you need. And the girls in my village work, don’t put a finger in their mouths, they do everything quickly like machine guns, they tell him, man, where are you going, here is food production, you can’t do without work clothes here. Okay, sorted it out.
            In the evening I arrive at the bank, the girl from the credit says to me in fear that what happened there. I do not understand anything. She says that you had a bank manager, arrived, called everyone to a meeting, said that you were in one place today, I saw people working, now she knows where she will send all the loafers for re-education.
            1. +3
              25 March 2013 11: 06
              Respect and honor to you. And accept my apologies if you offended. I just worked for a long time with the above businessmen, I've seen enough of all this shit. The trouble is that a fly in the ointment spoils a barrel of honey. But in our Russian business, on the contrary. Barrel of tar, you spoiled honey laughing
            2. +5
              25 March 2013 11: 16
              Quote: sergey32
              I agree, among businessmen, as well as among other groups, there is plenty of everybody ... on. But the employers are different, you don’t have to align everyone. I am also from a small business, but I connect my life and the life of my children only with my Homeland.


              and there are many!
              who work contrary to power.
              this forum is full of balabols with "Sharik" thinking.
              they consider an entrepreneur, which means a huckster, a trader, not a patriot.
              something like that we heard about fists.
              I would advise them to start their own business, better production, and after a year to tell everyone about the results. many things would open their eyes.

              sergey32
              and good luck in your business !!! good
              1. 0
                25 March 2013 11: 31
                Quote: kris
                I would advise them to start their own business, better production, and after a year to tell everyone about the results. many things would open their eyes.

                This is a series of scare hedgehog naked ass. laughing I was engaged in entrepreneurship, from 92 to 2010, and I do not need to be treated, I saw all sorts of Sharks and crucians in this matter. laughing
                1. +1
                  25 March 2013 11: 45
                  Quote: Sirocco
                  This is a series of scare hedgehog naked ass. I was engaged in entrepreneurship, from 92 to 2010, and there was no need to treat me. I saw all sorts of Sharks and crucian carp in this matter.


                  do you exclude yourself from shit?
                  it means at least three normal entrepreneurs on this thread!
                  I, too, have worked for 20 years. and I know this kitchen well.

                  DO NOT NEED ALL IN ONE PLEASE KNOW!
                  1. +1
                    25 March 2013 12: 01
                    Do you know the expression Appetite comes with eating? And the fact that many entrepreneurs, as they say with good intentions, paved the way to Hell. The fact that a business should be with teeth and elbows is a rule. BUT, do not forget that people, working for you, help YOU to earn capital with your labor. And when you treat them like cattle, then here you will have problems, in the form of thefts, sabotage, and God forbid arson, which happened with the comrades described above. Who with naive eyes did not understand who and why. And after that they did not draw conclusions. Turnover and mess. Not much will be enough. Let's not engage in self-deception, (about appetite) we are all a bit like that, just do not have to cross the line of the permissible,
                    1. +2
                      25 March 2013 14: 44
                      Quote: Sirocco
                      And when you treat them like cattle,



                      you yourself answered your question.
                      you have to be a man, not a gun don!
              2. bask
                +2
                25 March 2013 15: 00
                Quote: kris
                read by an entrepreneur, it means a huckster, a trader, not a patriot.

                Not a merchant entrepreneur, it is an honor, especially if you release products. I have a brother, an entrepreneur who produces products, I know how he plows 24 hours a day.
                ,, TORGASH ,, is the figure who sells resources of Russia, officials who sell everything that comes handy to oligarchs with billions from nowhere. ,,, THIS IS TRADING AT AUTHORITY.
            3. +4
              25 March 2013 15: 23
              Yes, I agree with you! I myself am engaged in small business, my son is now serving in the army could smear. even such a thought did not occur. Acquaintances and relatives when they found out that he was joining the army and I didn’t even lift a finger so that he would stay at home reckless like hens. I talked with him, he replied: Dad, you served and I’ll go, it’s a pity only the Airborne Forces didn’t take their health, and who will protect the MOTHERLAND if we all mow. Now I am writing and tears are welling up, my son is bursting with pride. MAN has grown from him and is proud of it. At work with men I always find a common language, I don’t hold evil for hassles and I always listen to their words. I have half of the workers from places not so remote, but after all we are all people and I got the impression that if the MOTHERLAND has to defend it, they will forget about the insults and they will first take up arms. If necessary, then they will die for their MOTHERLAND. And I myself RUSSIA will not give offense. Well, since something like that, I'm sorry if I wrote something wrong.
              1. +1
                25 March 2013 23: 17
                entertaining math
          3. nakaz
            0
            25 March 2013 15: 34
            You cannot forbid living beautifully; you have to radically change your thinking.
        2. -1
          25 March 2013 12: 07
          Quote: self-propelled
          during the years of perestroika and crap democratization, they ceased to love and respect their homeland! chased the golden calf, forgetting about spirituality and morality ... sad

          Sadly the wrong word. S T R A W N O! ! !
        3. 0
          25 March 2013 23: 20
          Quote: self-propelled
          ... sad

          What to do?
      2. +8
        25 March 2013 11: 20
        Quote: Sirocco
        So to the question of one, if tomorrow is the war, he answered, Suitcase Station Thailand

        Good decision.
        For an entrepreneur ....
        It sounds stupid, but I will ask: "Who will stay here? Who will pull this country out of the mud?"
        "Moving out" of your own country in such a situation is like ignoring the fire in the next house, apartment ...
        At least only by our presence here we are already creating the fact of the stability of the life form (some kind).
        As long as we live, citizens of this country, the country lives.
        It sounds loud and pathos.
        But WE DO NOT NEED ANYONE.
        Without us, this country, in many ways poor and miserable, will be needed only as a territory.

        Maybe somehow crookedly post, well, how could.

        Thank you all.
    2. Nevsky
      +1
      25 March 2013 08: 45
      bask I fully agree with you, there is nothing to put. The author is winding.
    3. +4
      25 March 2013 09: 58
      Quote: bask
      The article is controversial, did not put no + no -.

      He is muddy, in the sense of the author.
      One ending is worth it. "The desire of the people of Russia .... will spill out into social movements and associations that will not fight the government, but cooperate with it and support it."
      It is certainly good, only depending on what initiatives our government will put forward.
      So far, something is not very good with this matter, even though there are enough EDR, Nashi, and Popular Front organizations.
      The authorities are not like that or the organizations are not like that ........
      And the authorities do not listen to other organizations ........
    4. +5
      25 March 2013 10: 37
      Good day to all !!!
      Quote: bask
      .Now in Russia not only TRADERS prevail in politics. But they also lead the country.

      In my opinion, the country is ruled by thieves, who have so perverted public opinion that everything is perceived as the norm.
      And the penetration of crime into power began probably even under Khrushchev, gradually and imperceptibly. Remember the Soviet era of the 80s, then they hired the traitor Humpbacked to carry out a coup in the country ....
    5. TUMAN
      +4
      25 March 2013 13: 56
      Quote: bask
      Traders from the government-remove. The case for GDP. Enough declarations. THE TIME OF ACTION has come. !!!!!

      Cleaning is needed!
      1. bask
        +2
        25 March 2013 15: 11
        Quote: TUMAN

        Cleaning needed

        .

        A group of 11 Russian oligarchs of Jewish origin staged a "march in support of the ideas of Zionism and the strengthening of the state of Israel," which will take place in the Negev desert for three days, Kol Israel radio station reported today.
        1. +1
          25 March 2013 16: 22
          Quote: bask
          "March in support of the ideas of Zionism and the strengthening of the state of Israel", which will take place in the Negev desert for three days, the radio station "Kol Yisrael

          Well, do not lie, not beautiful. It’s just easter now (exodus) They walk in the desert like ancient Jews during the exodus from Egypt and there is no connection with Zionism in this.
          For three days, Russian billionaires will roam the Arava Valley in the hope of touching the roots of Jewish civilization. The movement of the most expensive caravan in the history of Israel will be carried out using camels. It is envisioned that the cold April nights in the Negev will be spent by the oligarchs in Bedouin tents and tents.

          I myself would have taken along the Golden Ring, wandered, or something. laughing
          1. bask
            +1
            25 March 2013 18: 30
            Quote: atalef
            Zionism is not in this.

            Your radio station reported., Kol Israel
            She's lying, your internet resource is Sem 40
            [media = http: //www.sem40.ru/index.php? newsid = 227403]
        2. TUMAN
          +1
          25 March 2013 17: 03
          Quote: bask
          A group of 11 Russian oligarchs of Jewish origin staged a "march in support of the ideas of Zionism and the strengthening of the state of Israel," which will take place in the Negev desert for three days, Kol Israel radio station reported today.

          We have the same crap!
    6. 0
      25 March 2013 23: 19
      Quote: bask
      .count for GDP
      something Vova is not very itchy about this. there is serdyuk still free
  3. fenix57
    +3
    25 March 2013 07: 47
    I didn't know that communism is sodomy. So it is necessary not to forget to strengthen our house (RUSSIA) from the inside. By max, limit the propaganda of Western “values.” “By all legal means, squeeze out of the State apparatus and ministries all these liberos and other 3,14ndos ... Tighten (max) Criminal code And do not care about the opinions of the West and amers. hi
  4. +2
    25 March 2013 08: 07
    ... Shortly before the death of the state, society in Byzantium broke up into groups and clans. The concept of "Roman" ceased to exist. There were "Greeks", "Armenians", etc., that is, the whole society is divided according to national or religious grounds. Internal unity was lost, everyone began to pull the blanket over themselves. Patriotism faded ...
    Analogies of our day - athletes speaking on International arena go out with the flags of their republics.
    I was also struck by the fans of CSKA, who at the match of the Russian national team booed Zhirkov for signing a contract with Anzhi. But Zhirkov is a player your national team. What kind of porridge should be in the head, so that in the moment to boo him? Here will be the match CSKA - Anji, then at least get dirty on the rostrum with anger, but now what kind of whistle to whistle? (I'm a fan of CSKA)
  5. Vladimir_61
    +1
    25 March 2013 08: 27
    On the question of what V.I. Lenin honestly followed - an ignorant mishmash. Along with the process of evolution, involution is always present. It is easy to slander a person, attributing to him that which has surfaced, like the ulcers of a rotting old world. For defamation - minus the article. The author is not prevented by self-education, and not by following the imposed distortions of history.
    1. +6
      25 March 2013 09: 12
      Quote: Vladimir_61
      what V.I. Lenin honestly followed - an ignorant hash.

      Is it ignorant? In my opinion, the author deliberately denigrates the past, leads to the idea that there can be no socialism and communism, but "the president's initiatives are the only salvation." But then clearly name what ideology is in Russia now? Initiatives are great. But I doubt that patriotism can be fostered if the country is full of thieves (excuse me, we have the same thing), who, if something happens, flee to an alternate airfield, where their money is accumulated and their houses are. Those. "their private property". And people see it and know it! The people can rally in the face of a COMMON danger. And when the danger is only for the people, but not at all for everyone. I'm sorry ... IMHO, of course
      1. +3
        25 March 2013 09: 44
        Quote: Egoza
        But then clearly state what ideology is now in Russia?

        No one will answer .....
        For money, money, money, money ...... Rubles ...... Francs, pounds, yes tugriks .........
        But there is no ideology ..... request
      2. +1
        25 March 2013 09: 49
        Quote: Egoza
        In my opinion, the author deliberately denigrates the past, leads to the idea that there can be no socialism and communism

        The article is strange, muddy, beginning with "In the 80s of the last century, the communist ideology showed its inconsistency.", And, right there, the phenomenon of Stalin, where the whole thing is in the "Caucasus", about the successes of China, which are temporary without religion, the collapse of Byzantium and the final, - the President's initiatives, the triumph of morality and faith ... Evono, how. I just want to remember here, "Don't sing me Lazarus ...", Mr. Lazarev. Old man Marx is right a thousand times over, capitalism will always be a society of traders, where the bourgeoisie will sell their mothers for super-profits and commit any crime. In this, capitalism is immoral from the start, and no religion can improve it, save it. All prosperity is stolen from the world financial pyramids, which is why it will not be possible to fatten without the theory of the "Golden Billion". The states have long been bankrupt, although they print their green candy wrappers as they want. And if we are talking about a planned economy, the role of the state, state control over resources and defense, culture and morality, social protection of people, this is already socialism. The death of the Soviet Union is a world tragedy, death from betrayal, the failure of the leadership, and not the system. I would also very much like to hear what we are building in Russia, and, in fact, what is our official social system, otherwise the people call it gangster capitalism.
        1. Cheloveck
          +1
          25 March 2013 19: 07
          Quote: Per se.
          and then the people call it gangster capitalism.

          Are there doubts?
          1. 0
            25 March 2013 20: 21
            Quote: Cheloveck
            Are there doubts?
            I don’t, but I really want to make mistakes in this, wanting changes for the better. Here involuntarily you become a supporter of, if not Communists, then Socialists. In any case, such a system, which we have now, does not see a worthy future.
        2. 0
          25 March 2013 23: 38
          Quote: Per se.
          what is the official social system in our country, otherwise the people call it gangster capitalism.
          the way it is!
      3. Vladimir_61
        +1
        25 March 2013 10: 21
        Quote: Egoza
        Is it ignorant?

        Ignorance has many faces. Deliberately denigrating the past is one of its hallmarks. The confrontation did not stop, despite the decades of the existence of the Soviet Union. Many who see Lenin as a "punishment" for Russia will not grasp that they are using the planted funds of the Jesuits (neoliberals, as they are now called). They should seriously think about why their consciousness sounds vehemently at the massive denigration of this person. A person cannot sound like something that is absent in his inner world. Neoliberals are smart for evil, cunning, really - wolves in sheep's clothing. To understand their intricacies, you need to know what means they use. It is no exaggeration to study many books over the years. They are strong because they know perfectly well the psychology of people and with what levers to act on consciousness. You are right: there is no ideology. More precisely, there is a clear step-by-step plan to destroy the country and, first of all, through the corruption of the consciousness of the unstable. The words and deeds of the destroyers are contradictory. You need, without ostentatious pathos, to have a courageous heart in order to know the true state of affairs. Knowledge is the power that will help to resist any event. Remember: forewarned is forearmed. IMHO.
  6. +4
    25 March 2013 08: 29
    Degradation and disintegration of society, what will save?

    Stalin number 2 - reboot ...
    Otherwise, only a great shock will save - war, a big (!) War will save.
    1. Vladimir_61
      +2
      25 March 2013 08: 38
      Quote: Tartary
      Otherwise, only a great shock will save - war, a big (!) War will save.

      Correctly. Unfortunately, as has always been the case, rallying will help a big trouble - one for all. Reveals all creative and all explicit and secret traitors. And with them - no leniency.
      1. 0
        25 March 2013 23: 33
        Quote: Vladimir_61
        Right. Unfortunately, as has always been the case, rallying will help a big trouble - one for all

        Like in a song. Remember?
        Russians, Russians. Restless hearts.
        So why, in order to be stronger, we need a war .....
        1. Vladimir_61
          +1
          26 March 2013 00: 10
          Quote: morpex
          Like in a song. Remember?
          Russians, Russians. Restless hearts.
          So why, in order to be stronger, we need a war .....

          I remember. The soul hurts for people who roam in the dark and don’t notice much or try not to notice. When will you wake up?
    2. 0
      25 March 2013 23: 39
      Quote: Tartary
      war, a big (!) war will save.

      only in one case, the development of a major war into a civil war and the establishment of genuine popular power in the country!
  7. vladsolo56
    +6
    25 March 2013 08: 31
    The ideology of private property inevitably leads to the collapse of the state, or at least to its stratification, and as a result to instability. Private means mine, private causes envy and greed, envy and greed gives rise to selfishness and desire for profit, which in turn leads to crime. Only social justice can bring people together. Only the upbringing of a person who is self-sufficient and not burdened with a desire for profit can give a desire for self-improvement and help others. And as a result of rallying society.
    1. +1
      25 March 2013 08: 57
      absolutely agree. that's just
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Only social justice can bring people together
      unfortunately it looks like a utopia. it is necessary to change not a single generation (I will note "directed in the right direction") to change the situation at least a little. and this requires the help of the state and, more importantly, the desire of those in power to change the situation
      1. vladsolo56
        +4
        25 March 2013 09: 02
        Absolute error, everything is quite real and no utopia. It is Russian society today that is most of all waiting for just social justice, and if one of the top leaders proclaims precisely this course, the majority will support it. Of course, where to get such a leader is a question, but not a utopia.
        1. +1
          25 March 2013 09: 22
          Quote: vladsolo56
          It is Russian society today that is most waiting

          that is what it is WAITING for. act must, not wait ..
          each candidate for the post of head of state, each political party in the election programs assigns one of the leading roles to the solution of the problem of social injustice crying (still, it's such a trump card). just have in the end? having come to power, for some reason they forget about their promises ... request
          therefore, I say that you need to start with yourself. create a system of education based on morality, patriotism and spirituality. and it takes time. nothing can be changed in an instant
        2. 0
          25 March 2013 23: 42
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Of course, where to get such a leader, it’s a question,

          Comrades! Choose me!
  8. +6
    25 March 2013 08: 37
    Trotskyist stupidity is written about communism. Just gentlemen, the Trotskyists wanted to shove all the Russians into the barracks so that they would sit there as slaves of their employers.
    Even then, the facts of the organization of these "naked parades" on Red Square and their "reception" by Lenin would have been cited. This is how I imagine these "parades" in the capitals starving during the Civil War and Devastation.
    As for Lenin, then without him there would have been no Stalin. Who was Stalin in the 1917? An ordinary, nothing remarkable worker in the party apparatus. Where could he compete with an experienced demagogue who has a tribute of followers - Trotsky.

    1. eliminate the state;

    2. eliminate the family;

    3. eliminate private property.


    But what about the "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Who, apart from the state, can provide a dictatorship?
    I have not heard anything about this either, in my opinion, this is from a sick liberal head to a healthy one.
    And about private property, so if you can always take everything you need, then WHY do you need private property?
  9. +3
    25 March 2013 08: 41
    In the past two thousand years, many concepts of a just and happy society have emerged. As for communism, an attempt was made to implement it. From the point of view of communism, in order to make people happy, it is necessary to perform three actions:

    1. eliminate the state;

    2. eliminate the family;

    3. eliminate private property.

    Lev Davidovich Trotsky went even further, proposing to replace ordinary houses with huts for three categories of the population: for men, for women and for children. At night, male and female barracks mate. That is, the attitude was like animals.
    1. vladsolo56
      +3
      25 March 2013 08: 53
      Modern society and not only in Russia are no better than the barracks proposed by Trotsky. What we have? a family? and who said something that can be called a family? the cell of society is the only name that is now called the family. Husband, wife and child (maybe two or even three are not important). Family is first of all Rod. Pedigree Where? at what level in importance in the modern family is Rod? and nowhere is there a trace of it. In a modern family, a woman is in the lead, and for her Rod is an empty meaning, she herself is a family and everything should be arranged as she (wife) wants it. Emancipation led to the collapse of the tribal foundations, and therefore to the collapse of the family in the full sense of the word. The state, industrialists, oligarchs generally do not need the clan structure of society. They need precisely small cells, completely dependent on the above, which are very easy to manage.
      1. Slav
        +2
        25 March 2013 10: 54
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Family is first of all Rod. Pedigree Where?

        Absolutely agree!
        Even Peter announced that it was necessary to increase the clans, and peasant, and merchant, and princely, and craft. Something new, more effective did not come up. I think that we need to return to just such an idea.
    2. +1
      25 March 2013 23: 49
      Quote: radio operator
      At night male and female barracks mate

      So that's where the writers of "House - 2" got their ideas from!
  10. +3
    25 March 2013 08: 51
    "From the point of view of communism, in order to make people happy, you need to do three things:

    1. eliminate the state;

    2. eliminate the family;

    3. to liquidate private property. "

    "But all of Marx's theories turned out to be a hoax."

    The author has clearly not read Karl Marx. More precisely, I read articles about him in the yellow press journalists, who also did not read him. Why do economists study his Capital? Riddle. Put a minus - the author began to philosophize on a topic unknown to him.
  11. +3
    25 March 2013 08: 56
    He set the article as a plus, the article is necessary and useful, it is necessary to return to the principles that Joseph Vissarionovich professed. The country's power is corrupt, both in essence and in business. It is not aimed at strengthening the state. What are the slogans about further privatization, that the private owner is more effective than the state is complete nonsense. Efficiency consists in one thing, which personnel manage and a measure of responsibility for failures and crimes. All but a few media outrages Stalin and the Soviet regime, sweeping their mistakes indiscriminately, not noticing the achievement and role of the Communist Party of the USSR and its organizing role. It is a pity that the Communist Party does little to raise its authority, although there are a lot of conditions for this. The country has no development plan, except for the bare words of the leadership, the country's strategic tasks are not visible, maybe the Chinese visit will enlighten the brains of our democrats. God save Russia from democratic devils and tobacco clerics.
    1. 0
      25 March 2013 09: 24
      Quote: valokordin
      that private ownership is more effective than the state is complete nonsense.

      I completely agree with you, and in confirmation of this I want to give, as an example, Europe, and the United States. what these countries, the capitalist private owner, brought to. Now they are tearing each other's throats, like rats on a sinking ship, climbing over their heads. At one time, the entire capitalist private owner, the EU and the USA, transferred all production to China, with good intentions on the lips that the slave there is cheap, and their goods in the EU will be cheap, in the end, what do they have? Full Europe and the US Gaster, and their people provided unemployment. So our individual bourgeois act in a similar way. I think the AUTHORITIES should conduct a conversation for educational purposes, with such grief businessmen. Something like this.
  12. Cheloveck
    +2
    25 March 2013 09: 13
    The article is a clear minus.
    It is written by a person who has heard something about something, once heard from someone and on the basis of this created "analytics".
    Particularly touched by curtsy toward the authorities.
    Hmm ....
  13. Fox
    +3
    25 March 2013 09: 16
    I don’t agree with the author that under Stalin there was no private property! But bakeries, artels, hairdressers, oil mills, ateliers ....? was it state-owned? the author is not a star !.
  14. +2
    25 March 2013 10: 10
    Lord! It all starts with family and school, and now they are in decline: it is rightly noted that Family / SEM-I! / Has become a small and weak, often very short-lived * cell of society *, and enlightenment / I already work in it for the 43rd year / - * educational SERVICES * / !!! / HOW you can * serve * with the help of * rational, kind, eternal / they used to talk about PEOPLE EDUCATION / *, and even constantly pull money from my parents, I, a teacher with many years of experience I still do not understand! And the STATE should support these institutions, as it was in the Russian Empire and in the USSR during the time of IV Stalin; and not traders should be in power, but patriots who love Russia and know how to magnify it!
  15. Ruslan_F38
    +1
    25 March 2013 11: 51
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Quote: Gogh
    Everything related to the family and a generally healthy (in every sense) way of life in the article is written correctly, only the question is a quote - "Why did Stalin create a great state, strengthen the country, and Khrushchev began to destroy it?" It has nothing to do with personality traits - it was just that the IS worked for our country, and the NSH - Trotskyist worked for the "world behind the scenes", just like the humpbacked and EBN. And the success of the Chinese is the result of the fact that their leadership works for their country and their people, and hence the attitude towards the family and everything else.

    We need a new Stalin! But among the rabble of liberals, where to find it? But I am an optimist!

    I think we do not need Stalin in pure form, but a mixture of Zyuganov, Putin and Stalin, then everything will be ok)))
  16. +3
    25 March 2013 12: 47
    The article is not straightforward. I will not go into politics, but many problems of society and the state are indicated correctly.
    Some of the indicated methods for solving problems are not without common sense.
    Yes, the state must be strong.
    Yes, the family must be strong.
    Yes, private property (within reasonable limits) is an essential tool for the economy.
    Yes, we need a strategy, we need an ideology, a GOAL is required.
    Yes. Yes! Yes....

    But what is this passage towards power? When did our government think about society? What initiatives are we talking about? Whom does society support? Oligarchs and top managers of state-owned corporations led by GDP? We have that there are few social movements and associations that do not fight with the government, but cooperate with it and support it?
    Our government understands only one argument - a threat to its existence. If society is not able to demonstrate a willingness to change this power, then power spat on such a society.
    Hamsters do not deserve respect and their opinion will not be considered power even if this opinion consists of the ideas of a strong state, a strong family, welfare and moral health of society
  17. +1
    25 March 2013 13: 32
    Deep article. Quote: "blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah."
    I totally agree.
  18. +4
    25 March 2013 13: 40
    "Saving the family and education, raising children in school and beyond"
    (end of quote).
    Sad to read. At school, most of the teachers for us were demigods, and they deserved it. Of course, there were those who didn’t put a penny on them, because you can’t deceive the children, they feel good who is worthy of their good attitude, and who isn’t. number. Over the last 5-7 years, I have been confronted on duty with current teachers at school. Around 40 schools met at meetings. A rare adder! It’s good that my children managed to unlearn, but the grandchildren are excited. PEOPLE worthy of the title TEACHER are just a few. Over the 20 years, almost all worthy people left school, they remained mostly angry, complex and envious, cynical and aggressive, not even having an average level of general culture, while not being able to learn themselves. The profession was reduced to the lowest level. What will they teach our children?
  19. Horde
    -1
    25 March 2013 20: 37
    Having begun the study of the issue of the death of states and citing as the first argument the role of the individual — the head of state, as the cause of the death of the state, the author said nothing new. The role of the individual in the formation, management and destruction of the system that laid the foundation of the state was investigated and rather closely in the works of the same classics of Marxism-Leninism, and there were plenty of other works on this subject, and therefore it was said that some Englishman went there for a long and tedious to understanding this question is simply not familiar with the question.
    This pearl is surprising - “The secret of his behavior can be revealed in one word - the Caucasus.” ??? "Family clan" ?? ,what does it mean? those. if you put Caucasians at the head of the state, then everything will be as it should? Even the Caucasians themselves, those who knew Stalin, said that it was necessary to look for more Russian than Stalin. All of Stalin's consciousness and behavior, and even his life, were the imprint of his life in the Russian environment.
    I hold more to the point of view that the main personality trait of Stalin was that he was the OWNER of a large state and resolved all issues guided by the principles of supreme state expediency.
    The author classified the driving mechanisms of the state system at traders, politicians and religious figures. I painted for them goals and objectives (near-term and long-term) and is trying to understand how much the rearrangement of these three figures on the political map can explain the current situation in Russia by citing the example of China. It seems to me not enough to understand what is happening in Russia the last hundred years. I think it’s not possible to understand, “how did we get to such a life” by rearranging only the figures of merchants, politicians and churchmen in places, we can understand what caused the death of our state of the USSR. Therefore, one more internal enemy must be added to these figures. as the state of Stalin fell victim to the conspiracy, Stalin could not clear the state of
    enemy and after decades they were able to strike back. I think everyone understands who they are talking about.
  20. 0
    26 March 2013 21: 47
    Our country needs to learn to respect engineers, skilled technicians, workers, their military ..... accountants, managers and marketers the tank you are not blind from their papers

    Yes, and if you need to change something, it is first of all necessary to close House 2 or blow it up to eb ...... yum. Even when their advertisements on TV go, the eye begins to twitch .... and the youth’s brain probably explodes: everyone sleeps in circles, swear, knock ... here they are the values ​​of the consumer society

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