Military Review

PSCs can be granted the right to detain citizens.

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After the reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it turned out that the reduction of personnel by 20% led to the hardest situation in the implementation of measures for the disclosure and prevention of crime, prevention of crime in the streets of Russian cities and towns.

Government policies aimed at further additional reductions in the number of police will, in the future, lead to a situation in the expanses of the Russian hinterland, when there will be only one district police officer on the 200 km.

To remedy the situation, State Duma deputies came up with a proposal to involve numerous private security companies in the fight against terrorism and to restore order in public places. "Private traders" do not object to join in the fight against offenses, but subject to the legislative assignment to them of additional rights. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Russia, more than 20 thousand security organizations are registered, with a total staff of about 1 million employees. Of these, approximately 100 thousand are former employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Private security organizations, as a rule, have the best equipment, both in armament and special equipment.

At various levels, meetings were held on the issue of attracting private organizations to partially fulfill the functions of state law enforcement agencies. And these discussions were more like trading than an attempt to constructively solve the most complicated problem concerning the security of the citizens of the country. Private security companies are ready with all their human and technical resources to assist government agencies to restore order and control the situation in all places of mass gathering of people from the western to eastern borders of Russia. But, in response, they are required to legally secure for them a part of the powers that state paramilitary structures possess. While we are talking about the right to check the cars and the inspection of citizens in case of a threat of terrorist attack. But no one can vouch for the fact that soon “volunteers” will not demand that they be given the right to conduct operational investigative work, etc.

At a time when there is practically no public control over the activities of state law enforcement agencies, the granting of such rights to private security companies can lead to an uncontrolled infringement of the rights of citizens.

According to a number of analysts, it is also possible that local authorities will create lawlessness by the hands of PSC employees.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs agrees to hand over to the PSCs the functions of inspecting citizens and apprehending violators, but this will be limited to the right to inspect and detain only at sites from a pre-approved list. Also, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is ready to transfer to the ownership of private security firms weaponwhich is at the same time on the balance of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Chop, but on condition that the police maintain tight control over the weapons rooms of the "armed private traders".

Currently, security guards at retail outlets are not allowed to inspect visitor bags, but often, taking advantage of legal illiteracy of citizens, violate the law. Employees of private security companies have enough technical means and capabilities to control visitors and detain a suspect of theft before the arrival of a police officer without inspecting his belongings. And, nevertheless, the management of the PSC insists on granting them the right to inspect. And if the inspection, being a procedural act, takes place with witnesses, then when inspecting the visitor’s things the guards are not sure that they observe the rights of a citizen in the amount guaranteed by the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And most importantly, the entire evidence base on the conduct of the inspection in the form of video camera records can be destroyed by employees of private security firms. Indeed, the guards can detain the alleged offender no more than three hours. There were cases when the police squad did not arrive on time, but this circumstance does not entitle the employees of a private security company to violate the law - in this case they have the opportunity to take the detainee to the nearest police station within the period established by law.

Every citizen is obliged to obey the authorities, but the private security guard is not one. Therefore, in carrying out their duties, the guard may well be repulsed by a citizen, whose actions may be recognized by the court as a measure to protect his honor and dignity.

And how to find this fragile distinction between the protection of the property of a legal entity and an insult or an attack on a person’s life. Many lawyers believe that changing the law, in the direction of granting large rights to private security firms, can lead to a situation where the guards turn into thugs in the service of their masters.

This concern also applies to such structures that are planned to be involved in law enforcement in public places, such as warriors and Cossacks. Since, in this case as well, the rights and obligations of these public structures are not legally regulated, abuses and all kinds of complex collisions are not excluded.

It must be said that in Soviet times, warriors had no right to independently detain citizens. Their duty was only to help the law enforcement officer to stop the crime.

Analysts say that if you now go to the creation of legitimate armed formations from private security services or Cossacks, then well-armed and organized groups will appear in the country, whose actions will not be located in a system of legal regulation similar to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In this regard, it is dangerous to transfer the rights of the authorities into private hands, especially those related to the power functions of the state.

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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 March 2013 09: 08 New
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    Is it a secret for anyone that a huge number of private security companies were created on the basis of criminal communities, and with this, it’s allowed to tell the guards to give the rights of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. fun, we will heal in this case, it is worse than the permission to purchase and store firearms for all citizens.
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 09: 38 New
      30
      vladsolo56
      Agree
      Quote: vladsolo56
      fun we will heal in that case

      You can’t imagine more fun.
      Opinion on the article as a former opera - NOT in no case. We also have a glove box in our bodies, and if we endow them with at least a small part, there will be little procedural action. In the authorities, at least some sort of selection exists, PFLs are different there, commissions, police schools ... In private security companies sometimes - scumbags-scumbags. Those who couldn’t even get into the cops.
      All this is not true.
      ReHorma Medvedev in action. By education, about the same. Rural schools have reduced, sorry - optimized. The result - there is no one and nowhere to teach. Whom? right - 10-15 children to hell are not needed. Gaster pick up. With medicine, peripheral, the same story. With the military - they think of the ensigns back.
      Whatever reform is, the collapse of the existing one and then attempts to return everything to the ass. Exactly In the back. For, as it was before - it doesn’t work ... Only JOBnice ...
      1. hohryakov066
        hohryakov066 25 March 2013 09: 49 New
        +8
        I totally agree with you! Even the most advanced private security companies will never be able to work instead of government agencies. Now in the newspapers regularly come across announcements about the admission of not serving in the police of persons who previously worked in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Only few people will return. A lot of excellent specialists have strongly offended by this "reform". People with their heads and hands already found themselves another job, and the "slag" had not worked before ....
      2. Fox
        Fox 25 March 2013 10: 25 New
        10
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        Opinion on the article as a former opera - DO NOT in any case

        I came across PSCs in the service more than once. ALWAYS, after that they were laid in the face on the asphalt due to abuse of authority. What will happen if you give them more freedom, think for yourself.
        Quote: hohryakov066
        A lot of excellent specialists have strongly offended by this "reform".

        he himself retired, but would have gone back. But the leadership is some licking and vomiting (there were still trainees with me). professionally unsuitable for operational work. here and the results of the reform.
      3. Andreitas
        Andreitas 25 March 2013 10: 31 New
        +4
        In cops, there are also enough scumbags and who in life cannot earn anything else for themselves. Only migrant workers can rob, fearfully looking around.
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 25 March 2013 11: 06 New
          11
          How did they get all these private security companies and "bearded men", where they don’t go everywhere to sit ... with eternal crosswords and turnstiles, especially in government offices!
      4. baltika-18
        baltika-18 25 March 2013 15: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        You can’t imagine more fun.

        If deputies accept something similar, the thought definitely needs to be dispersed.
        Because it is not popular, it is to serve the rich and richest segments of the population.
        Private security company will protect the one who pays the most.
        1. Azzzwer
          Azzzwer 25 March 2013 19: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: baltika-18
          If deputies accept something similar, the thought definitely needs to be dispersed.
          Because it is not popular, it is to serve the rich and richest segments of the population.

          Guys, so maybe it's time to repeat 1917?
    2. Yashka Gorobets
      Yashka Gorobets 25 March 2013 11: 22 New
      +4
      The delegation of some functions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to private security companies is the first steps towards the creation of private armies. The world behind the scenes again drives up on a crooked goat. In the states, private armies already have real strength, they are armed with a little more heavy weapon, and we are led to this, only at the beginning of the way more. The same thing with Yu and other garbage. A new world order is being prepared.
    3. svp67
      svp67 25 March 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Is it a secret for anyone that a huge number of private security companies were created on the basis of criminal communities, and with this, it’s allowed to tell the guards to give the rights of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.



      You know, when they are all in the “civilian” world at once and you will understand who and where, the habits of everyone are very similar ... - from personal observations. Well, okay, the question is different, the collapse of the structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, under the guise of reform, was somehow tried to be done “in a democratic way” through general discussion. Well, why is such a reform going "quietly"?
    4. rexby63
      rexby63 25 March 2013 12: 26 New
      +2
      whose staff is about 1 million employees. Of these, approximately 100 thousand are former employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs


      Who are the remaining 900 thousand, you don’t even have to think for a long time. The most scum of small gangsters
      1. ars_pro
        ars_pro 26 March 2013 03: 35 New
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        [quote = rexby63] [quote]

        [quote] Who are the remaining 900 thousand, even think for a long time is not necessary. The most scum of small bandyugan [/ quote]

        I would be more careful, mainly the guys who did military service work and I assure you that I’ve got a good preparation, especially since Chop also needs to react to inadequacy, too (so that people walk like on an airplane, smoothly and calmly))
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 25 March 2013 12: 44 New
      0
      Each modern state is created on the basis of a criminal community. And the right to self-defense has nothing to do with it. Think before you say something.
    6. elmi
      elmi 25 March 2013 13: 49 New
      +3
      In such a way soon the combatants, the Cossacks will be armed, will be allowed to detain. And the Caucasus will not be indebted, their own choppers, their fellow soldiers, and will create analogues for the Cossacks patrols. With regards to the Cossacks, I believe that they should serve on the borders of Russia, help border guards, as was always the case in Russia during the tsarist era, and not in the depths of Russia.
    7. Yarbay
      Yarbay 25 March 2013 14: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: vladsolo56
      Is it a secret for anyone that a huge number of private security companies were created on the basis of criminal communities, and with this, it’s allowed to tell the guards to give the rights of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. fun, we will heal in this case, it is worse than the permission to purchase and store firearms for all citizens.

      The next step will probably be permission to arrest the chop for 15 days and have insulators !!
      just p and p e c !!!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 25 March 2013 17: 41 New
        0
        That’s not all, the rumor in Moscow Region has passed that now at the checkpoint (checkpoint) at military facilities (by exact higher education institutions) Chopovtsy will stand the same ...
  2. radio operator
    radio operator 25 March 2013 09: 11 New
    +4
    Well, we still lacked the revelry of private armies. Then for sure, in order to calmly walk along the street you have to enter into some sort of private security company. I would not want to.
  3. Dimani
    Dimani 25 March 2013 09: 17 New
    +4
    What nonsense! Why then do we need the police? negative
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 09: 21 New
      13
      Quote: Dimani
      ! Why then do we need the police?

      If such an offer comes out, then the police sign their impotence hi ChOPerov really do not perceive and will not perceive, there are so many garbage that they will simply be beaten by the muzzle.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 25 March 2013 09: 39 New
        +7
        Alexander! Look at the choppers. They have already been given too much power and freedom. Arms, equipment and support are cooler than in the police. Insolence and arrogance, do not hold. They must be dispersed and disarmed, and the police reorganized and strengthened.
        It is disgusting to watch these arrogant, arrogant, single-witted men in uniform or with a tie.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 06 New
          +6
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          Look at the choppers

          Not long ago I saw one in a store, telling me that drinking beer in a store is impossible, illegal! With a gun (though I don’t know exactly the gas one, the injury or the real one), but the point is different. I will look at his hands and there ............ I won’t see a century of will. I’ve got the floor of life in the camps hi
          1. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior 25 March 2013 10: 33 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I will look at his hands and there ............ a century of will not to be seen. The floor of life in the camps is exactly hi

            Yeah, there is one. I can’t say that it’s very close, but ... My neighbor, a former “side-man”, works in a private security company.
            My red epaulettes didn’t let him live at the time. He got drunk, and let me peck at the door ... So I thought, give such idiots the power, everything, put out the light. You won’t go to the store without MMG laughing
          2. Petrospek
            Petrospek 25 March 2013 12: 06 New
            +1
            Why did he tell you about beer?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 13: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: Petrospek
              Why did he tell you about beer?

              Because he walked around the store and drank it.
              1. Petrospek
                Petrospek 25 March 2013 13: 55 New
                0
                Why didn’t you wait for payment ????
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 17: 48 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Petrospek

                  Why didn’t you wait for payment ????

                  I had already paid for it a long time ago, just some have the desire to show their power
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 25 March 2013 10: 28 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If such an offer comes out


        Good afternoon, Alexander! hi drinks

        I have a proposal in the next State Duma elections to nominate members of the forum as visitors and administrators. More than sure that our nominees will solve many of Russia's most pressing problems. You are the first to seek Romanov. Get ready !!! Write an election program at your leisure and we will support. fellow
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 34 New
          +4
          Quote: Apollon
          I. The first to seek you are Romanov. Get ready !!! At your leisure, write the election program and we will support it.

          Hi Apollo! I don’t remember who, but once said, Engaging in politics in the modern world is like trying to fuck a cat in your mouth!
          In the coffin, I saw both politics and the politicians themselves hi
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 25 March 2013 10: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I don’t remember who, but once said, Engage in politics in the modern world


            Sorry, for the first time I object to you, the fate of Russia is in your hands. Make an attempt, you have everything thanks to God. Citizenship, knowledge, life position, main goal and determination. Support, we will provide. Everything starts with a small one. Signatures. Not a problem I’m sure they will support this resource, just take a step.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 11: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: Apollon
              . Citizenship, knowledge, life position, main goal and determination. Support, we will provide

              And I also have the opportunity not to see these sickening faces from the State Duma, the Federation Council on a daily basis, which I am very happy about.
              1. Apollo
                Apollo 25 March 2013 11: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And I also have the opportunity not to see these sickening faces from the State Duma, the Federation Council on a daily basis, which I am very happy


                My answer is, if not who we are ?! It all starts with a small one and there are other worthy candidates at the forum who have a long track record. You never thought about what you and the rest of the world know about, I’m not talking about (the presidential administration, the Federation Council and the State Duma do not count) Russia. IMHO.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 11: 26 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Apollon

                  My answer is, if not who we are ?!

                  We’ll send a sparrow, he has a shovel in his hands, so let him put things in order.
                  1. Apollo
                    Apollo 25 March 2013 11: 40 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    We’ll send a sparrow, he has a shovel in his hands, so let him put things in order.


                    and that it is possible and Sparrow or for example another by means of a survey on the forum, well, to be honest, all my suggestions are serious, it would be worth thinking. There is still good time.
                  2. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 25 March 2013 18: 36 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    We’ll send a sparrow, he has a shovel in his hands, so let him put things in order.
                    О

                    And we are to his helpers ... also with shovels laughing
          2. Z.A.M.
            Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 11: 29 New
            +2
            Alexander Romanov
            And I Apollo I support. I am for!
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Engaging in politics in the modern world is the same as trying to wean a cat in your mouth!
            laughing
            Here VERY laugh. laughing
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 25 March 2013 11: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Z.A.M.
              Alexander Romanov
              And I support Apollo. I am for!


              Thank you very much Anton hi drinks , for trust but I'm in flight, citizenship does not allow. crying
          3. baltika-18
            baltika-18 25 March 2013 15: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In the coffin, I saw both politics and the politicians themselves

            In vain Romanov.
            Let's go together ....... Although they are silent, we will not ....
        2. Aleksys2
          Aleksys2 25 March 2013 10: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Apollon
          I have a proposal in the next State Duma elections to nominate members of the forum as visitors and administration.


          Unfortunately, this will not work, because:
          According to the current Russian legislation, all 450 deputy mandates of the State Duma are distributed between the lists of political parties that received more than 5% of the vote as a result of voting.

          So in the beginning it is necessary to stir up the party, and then to move to the polls.
          Under current law, a political party is a “public association created for the participation of citizens of the Russian Federation in the political life of society through the formation and expression of their political will, participation in public and political actions, in elections and referenda, as well as to represent the interests of citizens in public authorities and local authorities. ” The Law “On Political Parties” (Article 3, Clause 1) determines, among other things, that a political party must have regional branches in more than half of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, and have at least fifty (from 2010 - forty) thousand (from 2 April 2012 - 500) members, its governing and other bodies should be located on the territory of the Russian Federation.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 25 March 2013 11: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: Aleksys2
            So in the beginning it is necessary to stir up the party, and then to move to the polls.


            the Military Review party will suit you. There is time, you can register a party and participate in the elections. I’d like to enter the elections, I’m sorry for the citizenship. Expressing words in another thread of Elena (Egoza) I would show ....... !!! It is time, in my opinion, to move from words to action.
            1. Aleksys2
              Aleksys2 25 March 2013 16: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Apollon
              the party "Military Review" will suit you. Time is there and you can register the party and participate in the elections.

              The blessing of 500 people is going to be all kinds, and "having regional branches in more than half of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation" is also not a problem. It is necessary to contact the site administration with this proposal.
  4. bairat
    bairat 25 March 2013 09: 20 New
    +3
    After the reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it turned out that the reduction of personnel by 20% led to the hardest situation in the implementation of measures for the disclosure and prevention of crime, prevention of crime in the streets of Russian cities and towns.
    We have dozens, if not hundreds of times more, of law enforcement per capita than in the rest of the world. The problem of solving crimes is not in the number of investigators but in their motivation. The same goes for crime prevention and crime prevention.
  5. queen
    queen 25 March 2013 09: 29 New
    0
    Soon, each apartment will become a private security company. (((((
  6. Apollo
    Apollo 25 March 2013 09: 34 New
    +4
    quote-To correct the situation, deputies of the State Duma came up with a proposal to involve numerous private security companies in the fight against terrorism and to restore order in public places.

    hey you are those who made a proposal, moved off the coils or you have nothing more to do. Have you thought about the consequences?! There may come a point that you will not press the buttons with your fingers, but with your head.
  7. avt
    avt 25 March 2013 09: 41 New
    0
    Well this is strong! laughing Now sesugiti Borodach can rightfully call his police colleagues, without fear of getting on the head. laughing
  8. fenix57
    fenix57 25 March 2013 09: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    If such an offer comes out, then the police sign their impotence

    I absolutely agree with this. These law enforcement officers can (overwhelmingly) only roll something drunk with their feet, but they will not get into serious analysis. hi



    "[i] To correct the situation, the deputies of the State Duma came up with a proposal to involve in the fight against terrorism and to restore order in public places [/ i"] - I somehow didn’t understand something. But the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the SPEC units that are being abolished .... Aaaaaaa, understandable, on APRIL 1 in State Duma getting ready ...
  9. DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich 25 March 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    Such laws are developed either moral or paid, but in principle also moral.
    That's what it was asking for: it was necessary to reduce the police, and not the command staff, but the private one was reduced. My friend, a riot policeman, said so: we have reduced vacant posts and rank and file, they don’t have time to work, and the bosses, who didn’t do shit, still sit in their chairs and still steal.
    instead of pursuing a competent personnel policy, they are engaged in all kinds of crap.
    When the precinct Union was not what they knew, they saw it almost every day.
    And now, where ... I don’t even know who my district officer is. An outfit arrives at the check-out, the policeman has never left ... Well, why the hell am I such a policeman ???
  10. Vanek
    Vanek 25 March 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    I’m very aphigous when in the store, ChOPovets will ask for documents.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 March 2013 10: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Vanek

      I’m very aphigous when in the store, ChOPovets will ask for documents.

      Send it to ......... hi
  11. dema46
    dema46 25 March 2013 10: 37 New
    +1
    I understand that I will call a flurry of criticism, but with a normal approach this is the right decision. You can blacken the chop as much as you like, but let's face it - the police are almost killed by the reforms!. littered with materials, PPS was reduced, traffic cops in Perm cannot be found on the streets. Who guards our peace - gentlemen? Is it good or bad, but it’s chop! They are the ones who come to the calls, and not the fat policemen from all departments. And now to truth. The problem is that almost up to 70 Chop percentages do not consist of guards with licenses, but of village guys who don’t have money to study. Their labor is poorly paid. They don’t know anything. Employers just throw them in the embrasure. Guys stand on objects for several days, do not know the laws , unarmed. everything is covered by guards with guvd.plus to all the stupidity of the police in decisions to take weapons from the chop and rent it as if to rent. no weapons from the chop !!! you need to break the whole system. in Finland and in the usa the guard is trained in special schools , owns knowledge and weapons no worse than polysme and he is the main candidate for state law enforcement agencies. Our idiots don’t need it. Here and there is slag on many objects, and their bosses instead of investing in chop are invested in jeeps. I will repeat that it is necessary to change the very existence of chop, their organization, because they are urgently needed, and not to create all kinds of rock formations. joke - they cut the police in Perm, but they create a separate Cossack regiment. Now businessmen are forced to pay 120 rubles per hour for Cossacks --- literally. they protect you. !!!
    1. No_more
      No_more 25 March 2013 11: 28 New
      +2
      I admit that medicine can only be non-state, that education can be exclusively paid and private, but all power structures should be exclusively state.
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 11: 43 New
      +2
      dema46

      A flurry, not a flurry, but in my opinion you are wrong. In what?
      Well, if you follow your logic, then the army can be replaced by the "national guard" ...
      Everyone must do their job. Preferably wink - professionally.
      You write everything right
      Quote: dema46
      the police are practically killed by the reforms!. In the criminal case there are few people, the obep roofs everyone and everything, district police officers are overwhelmed with materials, PPS were reduced, traffic cops in Perm with fire can not be found on the streets
      That's just the conclusions I do not agree. Finland and the USA, in this case, are not an example.
      Bottom line in
      Quote: dema46
      the problem is that up to almost 70 percent of the chop does not consist of guards with licenses, but of village guys
      . If you allow PSCs, what is described in the article, do you think they will engage in the selection and training of personnel? Definitely not.
      And why reinvent the wheel?
      It is necessary to restore the police. Just how? ...
      Read my first comment, there are all the aspirations. Everything that is possible is ruined by reforms. Recovering fails ...
      I write with sadness and bitterness ...
      1. dema46
        dema46 25 March 2013 12: 24 New
        +1
        dear deputy. you can agree, but you can disagree. you have your own opinion, but I have mine. I do not propose replacing the army with the National Guard. You probably made this conclusion assuming that I propose replacing the police with choppers? incorrect conclusion. I do not suggest this I am a retired police major and I take all this trichome around the police and the chop. I also have a chop for this and I can explain something around this situation. Again, as an example, the city of Perm. At about 1 in the night, the teaching staff finishes work .who protects the objects? Let the bad employees cho , but only they. you can call 0-2 for hours, but there’s not much chance. if your apartment is on the panic button, then at least the Chopovites are late, but they will arrive. The task forces that are available in district police stations consist of reminded heels on heels , a lieutenant-opera who doesn’t give a damn about everyone and an expert with a brush and a camera. everyone! and they are constantly on the road. who else will come to you? showed about the conflict in sagra, which is near eburg. So some traffic cops came to the battle! so that in In connection with the wise leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, we should be happy with the chop. Instead of We are doing our best to help chop the development of the state. Does someone normal go to chop to work for a penny? It’s basically a “rolling field”, but someone smart has introduced an increase in pension insurance and a significant part of the budget goes to taxes. well, let's not engage in the creation of “normal” chops - who will benefit from this? you with your incomprehensible prohibitions? bandits and lawless people. can you Cossacks, who say they have a certificate of completion of law enforcement courses, are more to your taste? there’s half the same rabble . before suggest rhetoric, have something or at least a little understanding of the problem. otherwise I don’t agree with you and that’s it! your right.
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 25 March 2013 13: 25 New
          0
          dema46
          Listen, why are you so pounced?
          Quote: dema46
          are you with your strange bans?

          Yes, I only agree that you write
          Quote: dema46
          those operational groups that are in the district’s district are made up of a reminded heel-heeled tracker, an opera lieutenant who doesn’t give a damn about everyone and an expert with a brush and a camera.

          But! I do not agree with the conclusion that it is necessary (why?) to transfer, although partially, the functions of the police to the private security forces. The fact that you have in Perm, and at least, probably, in any small city that is further from Moscow and St. Petersburg is a mess and a lack of personnel - AND DO NOT DOUBT. But this, the current, rotten and destroyed system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, (especially this should be felt on the periphery) NECESSARY TO CHANGE SOME! ??

          Quote: dema46
          again, as an example, the city of Perm. At about 1 am, the PPS finishes work

          Yes PPP and worked something at night !!! Came from 17-18 to 4-5. Outfits are on foot and vehicles, routes are determined, taking into account objects. I’m talking about the same thing - they were reformed !!!

          Quote: dema46
          I’m a retired police major

          I am the captain. Not a senior citizen. And I won’t become a major ... Ideological lol
          While we are arguing - “tama” “saws” everything ...
          1. dema46
            dema46 25 March 2013 13: 55 New
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            I have a feeling that we are on a different wave. Did I say that there is no police and that’s all to chop? By the way, only with regard to the half-chop-half of the police, namely the extra-granddaughter, was said by one of the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Do not attribute me a stranger. I I’m just saying that choppers are far from the worst in reality. And the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at all levels recognizes this. Otherwise, where do these orders hang from the masses of chopsticks. In this state of the police, as now, there is no need for Cossacks or a new hochma in the form of "Orthodox patrols. "for our people are and the way of thinking (read the above, and especially from the aggressive novel) will just start to get nervous. I have generally fears that following the right-wing patrols will be created by Caucasians and Muslims. why not create gay patrols (pederasts with whips are weak!), patrols of taxi drivers, timurs and their teams? this is easy with our government. you write that you do not agree to transfer part of the functions from cops to chopam. Well, I didn’t apply to you with this request, but administrations of different levels require. Paradox. By the way, inspection of the scene of course they don’t have to, n it’s okay if the Chopovites, for example, from the pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs walk along the streets with the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, have a great symbiosis. And your main question (if I understood everything correctly from the old operas?) I don’t know how to fix it. I don’t know the right decision .
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 25 March 2013 15: 11 New
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          Dema 46. I basically agree NOOOO- I disagree with this stupid idea all the same. My opinion: Private security company should go about its business -protection of property interests. Taking on the functions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is completely absurd. And the fact that all Chepists are dirty with mud - well, we are such a people - everything is white and fluffy at the computer, but how healthy everyone like Taisan and smart like Ostakhov get stuck in a traffic jam, and then all the guilty when they put them in their place are like an anecdote about a driver, a pedestrian and a cyclist. In the store, I actually pinned it.
  12. Averias
    Averias 25 March 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    Stunned, but you look at these ChOPOVtsev, half the retirement age, he can’t even carry a baton - it's hard. Another part is thick to the point of disgust, such trunks bring with them food, enough for half of China. They don’t know the laws, they don’t know the rights, they are rude. It seems that people with psychological problems (low self-esteem, rotten ambitions, psychological trauma of childhood) go to private security companies. And most importantly - they are not responsible for anything. The car was scratched in a paid parking lot - PSC has nothing to do with it, in the eyes of PSC there is a 3 on 1 fight; I have a friend in St. Petersburg, they surrounded the apartment in broad daylight, a security guard was sitting in the entrance - a friend wrote a statement of claim to the private security company. So they said - We do not guard the apartments, we guard the entrance!?!?! And this ........ ,, also the right to arrest? Here is lawlessness so lawlessness.
    1. Region65
      Region65 25 March 2013 12: 40 New
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      bu ag a gagagagaggaaaaaaaaaa! pictures in the subject! NSA Training Center (Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk)
  13. dark_65
    dark_65 25 March 2013 10: 50 New
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    Do not get upset, this police just turns out to be a sinecure, uniforms, weapons, salaries, and PPS is a chop?
  14. VadimSt
    VadimSt 25 March 2013 11: 01 New
    +2
    Rave! A commercial structure with law enforcement on the streets? At the protected facility - their right and duty. In everyday life - this is the arbitrariness of "boys who do not see themselves at the machine."
    And with a reduction, they usually throw out the most trained employees, or those who are not suitable. And all this, as opposed to the dismissal of Licking, arranged at the request of their own children and other relatives (this approach is practiced - I, I arrange my "child" in the neighboring department, and there they promote it, naturally I accept the "child of the neighbor" in my department and naturally promoting).
    Kolokoltsev, undersigned in his own impotence to restore order and carry out an effective reform! Clearing the system of all the crap is more expensive for generals and colonels.
  15. in reserve
    in reserve 25 March 2013 11: 16 New
    +1
    They cut the police, but now they think what to do, crime has increased. As there was corruption in the bodies and remained.
    Reformers are bad. Now let's arm the arms so that they "shoot" citizens.
    Everyone must do their job.
  16. erased
    erased 25 March 2013 11: 18 New
    +2
    If suddenly the wise men from ZAO MVD push such crap, there will be a big, big priest. For the concept of "law" and completely lose power.
    Or maybe the government is preparing an explosion of indignation on purpose? Well then, everyone will have a lot of fun ...
  17. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 25 March 2013 11: 32 New
    +6
    I'm not talking about everyone, but the lion's share of choppers, to put it mildly, not the intelligentsia. And a rare professional case. I can imagine what will happen. In a word, I am categorically against any extension of their authority stop
  18. 120352
    120352 25 March 2013 11: 46 New
    +2
    Now - chop, then - the janitors. Super megalopolis state.
    1. Region65
      Region65 25 March 2013 12: 36 New
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      well, Che))) in the USA there is such a thing as “civil arrest” ... this is when one citizen, having suspected another citizen of Seshean’s wrongful behavior, can tell him that he is arrested and send him to the police .. well, or shoot, in the best traditions of the Wild West)))))))))))))))
    2. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 25 March 2013 14: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: 120352
      then to the janitors

      Under the tsar-priest, each janitor had a whistle and was the city’s best friend.
  19. Vanek
    Vanek 25 March 2013 11: 46 New
    +1
    Occasionally, they themselves must be protected.
  20. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 25 March 2013 11: 54 New
    +2
    So always, first amputated due to a bruise, then they catch on and begin to sew back with rotten threads. Only necrosis has already happened and the tissue does not want to take root back. Then they try to put a prosthesis, which is assembled from the spare parts assembled in the next garbage dump, figs with it, even though it seems to work fine ... hi
    1. 120352
      120352 25 March 2013 13: 04 New
      +1
      This is because the political party work is not delivered! It is necessary to carry out an explanatory work among the fabric, you look and take root.
  21. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 25 March 2013 12: 27 New
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    From dumping their work on others, there will be no more order. On the contrary, given the "contingent" of private security companies, etc., it will be dangerous to go into the store.
  22. Region65
    Region65 25 March 2013 12: 34 New
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    taking into account how the overwhelming majority of private security officers behave “politely” when communicating with people (not to mention how they will behave during detention), the number of fly-swatters after the adoption of such a law will sharply decrease, and the number of “snowdrops” in spring and traumatology clients offices will increase dramatically.
  23. Region65
    Region65 25 March 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    issue of sekugiti blessed men in the CA NSB Yuzhno = -Sakhalinsk
  24. dema46
    dema46 25 March 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Vanek

    I’m very aphigous when in the store, ChOPovets will ask for documents.

    Send it to ......... hi

    Mr. Romanov, you are an uncompromising person in reasoning. You suggest sending it to .....! the employee chop definitely does not have the right to do this, so repeat this phrase to him. Probably he will understand. The employee chop asks to present the document not from what he wants to play above you, and only when they tell him, in violation of the law governing his activities, to ensure that the seller-outsourcer does not sell alcohol and cigarettes to persons under a certain age. The chopper just doesn’t need it by the way. Now to the point. you brave t What kind of messaging is it? You’re very brave for your eyes. Profanity in a public place is an administrative punishment at least. You may be restrained violently. But you’ll probably learn something else and get it in full, but very lawfully!
  25. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 25 March 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    I read the comments and made a conclusion - the article was written by a person who has no idea about private security companies in general and I did not see the law on private security in his eyes. Heresy is the first about the coolest weapons of private security companies - IZH76 well, maybe IZH76-100 and different saiga variations and pumps (for those who don’t know - A short-barreled semi-automatic rifled and flat-barreled long-barreled semi-automatic weapon with a magazine capacity of no more than 10 rounds and an impact force of no more than 300 j. Is allowed at the chop private security company. So we understood the whole thing. dumb, stupid, stupid people — we have a national fun — push your neighbor near to the bottom — we have stupid people at the Ministry of Internal Affairs, are they right now tomorrow? Who has looked at the statistics on the number of dead guards during execution? And how many crimes are prevented by them? the DEMO of SILVER - I think everyone knows. Why, therefore, interfere with the dirt of people conscientiously performing their duties. Many of them at one time became unnecessary with their experience in the Army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  26. Region65
    Region65 25 March 2013 12: 45 New
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    Our Lady of Sekyughiti ......... "Defendant, at what point did you realize that the deer you shot was not the deer at all?" "" When did the deer begin to shoot ".....
  27. Region65
    Region65 25 March 2013 12: 50 New
    +1
    I propose to make suggestions to MINUSTA on amendments to the Law on Private Security Companies and the law on weapons. I propose to add the following mandatory indicators to the current requirements:
    1. Beer Puzyako - at least 120 cm. In girth.
    2. The solution of the magazine of scanwords - the standard of 30 minutes.
    3. the ability to sleep a day after three
    4. completion of all solitaire games - 20 minutes
    5. knowledge of all card games, cities, sizes of boobs of all actresses and pornstars.
    6. knowledge of jokes - at least two thousand pieces.
    7. the ability to professionally and colorfully discuss bosses and the previous shift
    8. Eating (no problem for the stomach) soy noodles and potatoes from instant cardboard, twenty sandwiches at a time, drinking at least three buckets of tea.
  28. andrey903
    andrey903 25 March 2013 13: 10 New
    -2
    You can’t, many criminals work in private security companies and simply who cannot and do not want to work
  29. RPD
    RPD 25 March 2013 13: 56 New
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    Urki in the Duma push their laws.
  30. rubber_duck
    rubber_duck 25 March 2013 14: 03 New
    +1
    That's right! Exactly what was so lacking in Russia! Just for a second, what legal status will a PSC employee have in this case? On the basis of what will this uncle have such a right? WITH police officers cops - everything is clear, they are representatives of the authorities. And who is Chopovets? That is, he will have such a right, because he has been hired by a private entrepreneur Basayev To Ivanov? This, of course, is a good reason. I only hope that they will not be strewn with "untouchability," as cops police officers, when you can grab a button for five to seven years by a torn off button, unknown to anyone. Because, if "untouchability" does not apply to them, they will begin to be straightened left and right. What they, by and large, deserve.
  31. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 25 March 2013 14: 23 New
    +1
    [b rexby63] (3) Today, 12:26 ↑ ↓ 1
    whose staff is about 1 million employees. Of these, approximately 100 thousand are former employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs


    Who are the remaining 900 thousand, you don’t even have to think for a long time. The most scum of small bandyuganov [/ b]

    I am a military pensioner, I work in a private security company and, what am I to your scum? And there are a lot of people like me. It seems to me that you Chopovtsy cops for the offenses for you, so you sprinkle with saliva. Or to the noise of the pluses you want on a shared wave fool
    And on the topic, I agree with the author, it is not necessary to give even partially state rights. organs, otherwise there will be chaos hi To you [b] rexby6 [/ b] 3 hat does not apply.
    Yes, I wanted to add, but the rest is divided into two halves: those who are over 60+ can’t tear the ass from the chair without effort, the rest are small bandigons.
  32. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 25 March 2013 14: 29 New
    +2
    I read an article, comments. Recalled personal experience. I thought a lot.
    That's what I’ve thought up. Firstly, private security companies and the Ministry of Internal Affairs have different functions, absolutely!
    If the function of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is to protect the state and society (summarized), then the function of the private security companies is PROTECTION OF OBJECTS! And no other way! The activities of private security companies are regulated by relevant laws. And it makes no sense to bring private security companies abroad the current legislation! Private entities cannot substitute law enforcement by definition! For whoever dines with the girl dances her!
    Further, if it is loudly stated that the police are not coping with their duties, it is not necessary to strain private security guards, but to deal with the police, and allow citizens to protect themselves!
    It is necessary to allow citizens the legal acquisition of a short-barreled gun! This is the only way to build a truly responsible civil society!
    Further, indeed, the detention of a person is a violation of his civil rights (stipulated by law)! And it’s one thing when a representative of the authorities (a policeman) is engaged in this, and it’s quite another if there’s either a “Chopovets” or a type of “Cossack” (an incomprehensible citizen)!
    Accordingly, the reaction will be adequate!
    I put a plus article. Raised the problem that they are trying to impose on us ...
  33. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 25 March 2013 14: 30 New
    +3
    He left the organs back in 2004 because he got:
    1. Leaders who have not worked for a day “on the ground” and suck out new reporting forms from their fingers, as, however, requiring a constant increase in results (the infamous “sticks”);
    2. a new generation of "ordinary law enforcement officers" with a low level of banal literacy, a low legal culture and an absolute inability to talk with people, coupled with reluctance to think with their own heads. I don’t even want to talk about requisitions in the streets of drunk people, of detained citizens. For the entire period of service (12 years), about 12-15 people were fired from the compromising unit (those who were specifically "grabbed by the hand"). Now all of the above are employed in private security companies ... Recently, before being fired, I began to think very hard about the fact that the personnel were able to "very tightly" expose the article not even out of malice, but because of stupidity, laziness and sloppiness. So he left the organs. Although he got a job in the police in order to help people and feel in their place.
    Summary: In no case should police rights be granted to the private security companies.
    Article 37 is enough; 38; 39 of the Criminal Code.
  34. Kotleopold
    Kotleopold 25 March 2013 14: 55 New
    +2
    I remembered the joke: laughing
    REPORT

    I, the foreman of the pepees Shinkarenko, having detained Mr. Pupkyn for the sho of wines while being drunk, publicly violating the flowerbed. After I made him remark wines to violate perastav. But not because of sho realizing, but because of sho dried up. wassat

    But seriously, then give the right to detention, etc. Chopam - bullshit. Most of the employees of such shops (and even quite respectable enterprises) are ordinary rural guys with incomplete school education, who are just too lazy to work. And if such a miracle tries to inspect me, it will be sent to hell.
    On the other hand, in order to obtain the right to detain the offender (at guarded facilities) in Ukraine, there has long been a practice of creating special friends based on security companies. And, frankly, there is no sense in helping people out of them.
    The conclusion is clear.
  35. horoh
    horoh 25 March 2013 15: 49 New
    +1
    Yes, the “wise” in the State Duma quite went rooftop. First, the reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Medvedev, now the private security company with their half-fucked employees. Interesting cho next?
  36. mark021105
    mark021105 25 March 2013 15: 53 New
    +1
    Fuck ____ !!! Everything that the iPhone’s hand did not touch, everything in the absolute ass !!! Starting from the National Projects, everything that he oversaw raises well VERY big questions !!!
  37. Cpa
    Cpa 25 March 2013 16: 16 New
    +2
    I believe that the topic is being lobbied by those who want to have their own guard. If Gudkov had his own private security company, then maybe other deputies have ..
    Raiding will get a new round. It is possible that state-scale security companies want more power and influence. Anyone with big money from a personal guard will make a private security company and can put them on the asphalt and hand over to the police department who they want to punish or besiege. You only need to provoke a conflict . request
    Further, large companies will be able to take contracts to restore order in "special regions", mercenaries will do the dirty work, then the state may also break the contract. This is what amers did in Iraq. Very dangerous and vicious practice !!! am
  38. pav789
    pav789 25 March 2013 17: 07 New
    +2
    [b rexby63] (3) Today, 12:26 ↑ ↓ 1
    whose staff is about 1 million employees. Of these, approximately 100 thousand are former employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    Who are the remaining 900 thousand, you don’t even have to think long. The most scum of small bandyuganov [/
    He worked for several years in a private security company after retiring from the ranks of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (which means that I am one of the 900 thousand scum itself). The overwhelming majority of private security companies are run by former cops who literally rob their employees. (I had the opportunity to compare the payments coming to private security companies from protected objects with the salaries of employees. MORE THAN half of the money was taken by the private security company and the owner of the private security company went on a very rare Hammer at that time. it’s funny to watch him come to the object to negotiate with the owner of the object to increase payments for protection, motivating his poverty!)
    it’s very funny to read here some statements of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (former and current) about the employees of the private security company. you look at yourself from the side, just that. right away with your crusts in your face poking around the case and doing nothing. Take away your crusts and that’s all, you are no one and you can’t call you! From time to time I am engaged in the selection of security officers for our facilities — former Interior Ministry officers — I do not take truants, lazy people, they like to drink very much. including hours and during working hours. (repeatedly verified by personal experience. flew from objects like traffic jams!)
    working with military pensioners is a pleasure, yes, among our brother, not all angels are either, by comparison with ... heaven and earth!
  39. pav789
    pav789 25 March 2013 17: 21 New
    +1
    As for the criminals in the private security company, I don’t know about you, but where I worked and work now, and I have information about the city, having a criminal record is an obstacle to hiring, even without weapons. So all the tales that criminals are in Chop tell someone else.
    There are private security companies that specialize in garbage, take drunks. truants, those who are not already taken to a decent private security company. Then they are put up for a post (shops, pharmacies and something like a checkpoint, where no self-respecting security guard will go) in order to plug the resulting vacancy. And this miracle works for a couple of three shifts, until doesn’t fly on anything, he’s fired right away, and in his place they put the same ... The salary in such private security companies is scanty, but this .... there’s nowhere to go, no one else will take them, and that’s the shit cycle in such private security companies . and then you say that the guards are cattle. A normal guard at a normal facility with a normal salary is politeness itself. people are pleased to come to such facilities as visitors, they themselves have often said such a thing to me, it’s nice to come to you at work! And you say boors!
  40. amp
    amp 25 March 2013 17: 26 New
    0
    Another idiotic reform of the bear cub Dima .....
    It’s time for the people to arm themselves and defend themselves.
  41. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 25 March 2013 17: 30 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Dimani
    ! Why then do we need the police?

    If such an offer comes out, then the police sign their impotence hi ChOPerov really do not perceive and will not perceive, there are so many garbage that they will simply be beaten by the muzzle.

    The police are still cutting, there is no one to cut, and they are cutting everything! As for the "bearded man", there is little sense from them, they are needed only as an interior of any modern store or institution.
  42. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 25 March 2013 18: 04 New
    0
    I think so, if the police, because of their small numbers, cannot cope with crime, and it’s not possible to increase staff at the expense of qualified specialists, they need to be seconded to the VVshnikov departments, now they exceed the RF Armed Forces, but there’s no sense in them, and they will do what is possible in the departments help, and as for the glove, let them do their own thing, stand in furniture stores !!!
  43. pav789
    pav789 25 March 2013 18: 05 New
    +1
    And where are you going to go without guards now? Unprotect at any object, you get a courtyard, everyone who is not too lazy to distribute advertisements, tickets, just lost and not quite adequate personalities in spring and autumn, and a few days later the horns and legs will remain from the object. So what safety of customer property thank security staff. And on the issue of providing the security officers with the right to carry out enforcement actions against citizens - this should not be! The interests of society protected by law should be protected by law enforcement agencies and no security guard on the street should grab and search a citizen - he has a different function. And if the authorities do not cope with this task, then over time the population will find a way to maintain a semblance of order on the streets, as it was during the years of wars and revolutions.
  44. pav789
    pav789 25 March 2013 18: 12 New
    +1
    By the way, in recent years, I noticed this trend - after leaving the RF Armed Forces, military pensioners do not go to the private security company and the security services of enterprises and organizations. Those who left earlier work out before the Serdyukovsky increase in monetary allowances. But recently fired employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs who want to get a job in the guard-a dime a dozen! I don’t know why I don’t know, maybe there is enough military pension, or maybe another generation of military pensioners is leaving already, who can settle in this life differently from working as a guard.
  45. pinachet
    pinachet 25 March 2013 19: 38 New
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    read the comments and did not understand where such a biased attitude towards chop ..?
    I won’t be shy, after working in the Sun and the Ministry of Internal Affairs I work in a chop (the senior at an industrial facility)
    I have former employees and pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Sun (right up to lieutenant colonel)
    all normal, adequate, educated.!
    the work of the guards, past the leadership of the chop, is controlled by the department of OAI which is at every department and at the headquarters. There are also personal files, everyone is checked, fingers are rolled .. annually honey. commission and offsets, certificates are issued.
    At the moment, working in a chop without a school of guards, this license and certificate is not realistic!
    now on the merits .. now, under the law on cod, a guard does not have the right to detain a person who has committed a crime at a protected facility.! you can only press the panic button (call the police) and wait ...!
    Now the police have already transferred some of the functions to chop, and this is the GBR (instead of the outfits), and the protection of mass events, stadiums, elections ..! attract everywhere! and losing a license is very simple ... two comments or administrative violations!
    for example "baradach" and its chop would have been closed for a long time after the first jamb ..)))
  46. Black
    Black 25 March 2013 21: 19 New
    0
    I think it will go at such a pace - it is necessary to introduce a private Army, a private Navy, and what !! - some oligarchs will pull.
    "6 - Rise 7 - Acceleration of clouds 8 - Feat 16 - War with England."
  47. воронов
    воронов 26 March 2013 00: 04 New
    +1
    The police are not acceptable for the mentality of our people, the police must be revived, but at a qualitatively new level
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 26 March 2013 10: 41 New
      0
      воронов
      Quote: voronov
      The police are not acceptable for the mentality of our people,the police must be revived,but on a qualitatively new level

      What I wrote above.
      Plus you. That's right. The most important thing is briefly. hi
  48. saygon66
    saygon66 26 March 2013 13: 16 New
    +1
    _Criticizing - offer! Recently it has become fashionable to spit in the direction of the private security companies ... It seems to me that this is mainly done by people who have no idea about the specifics of the work of security companies ... Thieves in supermarkets, brawlers in taverns and nightclubs, the protection of apartments and houses, industries , etc. Is the police ready to scoop up this pile of cash in the present?
    - "Chopovtsy are degenerates and ki .." Someone's friends, classmates, co-workers and relatives work in PSCs ... ki everything? Nichrea has bred them! We will bring honest and clean police officers from Mars .. Everyone on
    they’re being taken from the same streets ... To educate the police of the “new formation”, a system similar to that used in the Foreign Legion is needed - Destroy the original person to create a new one ...
    Do many agree to such a re-education?
    _ It seems to me that there is no need to inflate an elephant from a fly ... I have been working in a private security company for a long time, and I can say: we don’t need investigative and search activity,
    insulators and detoxification facilities - let specially trained people do it ... But the right to detain and deliver is necessary, often to surrender a “thieves” thief or a “kitchen fighter” you have to wait hours for the order to arrive ... And let the police officers forgive me - in case of theft at the guarded facility, it is almost impossible to get the damage from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it is easier for the private trader to sue the compensation from the guard ...
    _ The best technical equipment of private security companies: OWN and NOT STATE money are invested in this private security company - I see no reason to grit your teeth, contact your immediate supervisor .. let him provide it. By the way, in many private security companies uniforms and ammunition are purchased by the employees themselves!
    “It is also interesting to have an attitude to former security officers who work as security guards: some of the comments suggest that they are just renegades who betrayed their comrades in the past service ... Oh, men, look yourself not at that!”
    - Regarding degenerates in the form of guards: such gouging are everywhere, and for those who are not blind: physical security is usually the lowest professional level
    - Convicted guards: What is the ratio of convicted to non-convicted in the country? BUT! That's it! And then, the law does not prevent obtaining a license to persons with a withdrawn or canceled criminal record!
    And finally, about the teaching staff - which one do I need to go on patrol after one watch !? So enough work ...
    - Until the police of the “new wave” appear, there is no alternative to chop!
    -And the last: before you spit in the back of the guard - think: maybe this is the only person who will come to the rescue of you, or to someone from your friends or relatives .... Regards, Sanya Borodach.
  49. pav789
    pav789 26 March 2013 15: 22 New
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    I fully support saygon66!
  50. pav789
    pav789 26 March 2013 15: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: voronov
    The police are not acceptable for the mentality of our people, the police must be revived, but at a qualitatively new level

    The militia and the police are completely different concepts in their essence. the police is the state’s repressive apparatus designed to maintain law and order by state employees on a monetary allowance. The police is a voluntary (at the initial stage of formation) structure, staffed by the territorial principle of local residents who themselves, with arms in their hands, maintain law and order in the territory of residence during periods instability before the formation of the police
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 29 March 2013 18: 40 New
      0
      Yes you are right. The terms are different, but in fact .... request