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"Putin's doctrine" and the true causes of the Russian-American conflict ("Forbes", USA)

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"Putin's doctrine" and the true causes of the Russian-American conflict ("Forbes", USA)Recently Leon Aron wrote for the Foreign Affairs an article in which he tried to define the “Putin doctrine” and draw the line between it and the foreign policy course that was characteristic of the Yeltsin era. It was not at all that I was shocked that Aaron and I see this situation differently: this article seemed to me particularly interesting because, unlike many other conservative attempts to analyze Putin and Putinism, it begins with an incredibly insightful and accurate description of the realities of foreign policy Russia. Even more interesting, it seemed to me that at the end of the article, Aaron advocates such a position — a strategic “pause” in relations with the Russians — which I find absolutely appropriate and justified.


But if I agree with most of Aron’s statements and his conclusions, what else can I add? The fact is that I consider the article by Aron to be quite important, primarily because the author writes about a kind of “Washington consensus” in Russian foreign policy. The idea is that we oppose certain aspects of Russia's foreign policy due to "democracy" and "values." I want to express my disagreement with this thought, because I consider it incredibly self-serving and - most importantly - erroneous. However, I want to do this by quoting Aron’s own statements and drawing some logical conclusions from them.

At the very beginning of the article, Aaron writes the following (the important is in bold):

“Much of Russian foreign policy today is based on the consensus that emerged at the start of the 1990s. This consensus, which appeared on the ruins of the USSR after its collapse, unites the entire political spectrum - from pro-Western liberals to left-wing supporters and nationalists. It is based on three geostrategic imperatives, which say that Russia must remain a nuclear superpower, a great power in all its multifaceted international activities and hegemon in its region, that is, a political, military and economic leader. This consensus holds the line, for which Russia cannot retreat, for in this case it will sacrifice its sense of pride and even national self-consciousness. Such a point of view turned out to be surprisingly resilient, having survived the post-revolutionary perturbations and changes of political regimes from Boris Yeltsin to Vladimir Putin. ”

Well said. In addition, the main idea of ​​this paragraph is that countries are trying to build their foreign policy not on the basis of political values ​​that are currently in fashion, but insisting on their national interests, which often persist even in times of serious political upheaval, no doubt is correct. Daniel Larison can argue better than others, but the truth of life is that most states, even such supposedly ideological and irrational players like Iran, do not build their foreign policy based solely on values. And, as I have already noted, many of Putin’s most reprehensible foreign policy decisions, such as his decision to prevent Western countries from invading Syria, are in fact strongly supported by ordinary Russians.

However, I was amazed that Aaron was able to pinpoint the cause of the US and Russian doom for such tense relations, as well as the reason for their constant conflicts in foreign policy, no matter how democratic or authoritarian the Russian government is: Russia wants to be a hegemon in its region *. This is exactly what the United States, at least with its current foreign policy course, cannot possibly allow. Let me remind you that Russia borders with several states that the United States is obliged to protect under a treaty, states that are military to us are as dear to us as American land is to us. If Russia tries to establish its dominance over the Baltic countries - and Aron quite rightly notes that the desire to control the “near abroad” is characteristic of the entire political spectrum of Russia - this automatically translates the US and Russia into a state of conflict. In the end, if an alliance with the United States to ensure security in general has any significance, then it must necessarily assume that its participants are not threatened by the hegemonic twitters with muscles that Russia loves so much. “Regional hegemony of Russia” and “NATO” are two things that simply cannot coexist.

Aaron spends a lot of time arguing about the supposedly unique negative aspects of Putinism and listing the already well-known crimes of this regime. However, he does not answer and does not even try to answer the question that naturally arises after his analysis of the situation: how can the US reconcile itself with Russia's hegemonic foreign policy? In my opinion, the answer is obvious: it is impossible. There is no way to make a square of the circle of American foreign policy, built around the idea of ​​"world domination", and Russian foreign policy based on the desire for "hegemony in the region." These two lines simply cannot coexist - this is true, which is completely independent of whether the Russian regime adheres to a democratic or autocratic line. These two lines, unfortunately, are in conflict with a zero amount. Either the United States will allow Russians to adopt a kind of “Monroe doctrine” in relation to neighboring countries, or the Russians will abandon attempts to establish hegemony in the post-Soviet space. However, if neither side changes its approach, if the US continues to consider any attempt by a third party to expand its sphere of influence as a threat that must be resisted, and if Russia continues to sincerely believe that it is the last word in its choice of economic and political trajectory her neighbors, a conflict between them will be inevitable.

Despite the fact that Aaron set a goal to shed light on the unique negative features of Putinism, in fact he was able to brilliantly reveal the reasons why the United States and Russia are doomed to clash with each other: this happens because the Russians are not only Putin and comrades from power structures, but the majority of representatives of the political elite still consider that they are in a privileged position to exercise leadership in the affairs of the region. Perhaps the Russians will eventually give up the desire to become a hegemon in the region, but until they do, Russia and the United States will clash. Some political campaigns like reloading relationships will probably be able to mitigate this conflict and limit it to certain limits, but they will not be able to resolve it or put an end to it.

* I would not want to spend too much time on it, but, to be honest, I found myself negatively shaking my head, reading the lines in which Aaron writes that Putin's “innovations” were an attempt to reclaim all former strategic funds belonging to the Soviet Union. If Russia wants to become a hegemon in its region, and Aaron accurately noted that it was this desire that preceded Putin’s return to the presidency, moreover, it also prevails among Russians, as she can hope for, without regaining most of the former strategic funds owned by the Soviet Union? Doesn't the first (desire to become a hegemon) imply a second? And what will the hegemonic policy of the state look like, which at the same time refrains from clashes in the spirit of the Soviet Union?
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  1. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 23 March 2013 07: 17 New
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    this is not the first time I’m writing this ... the more our rulers get hacked over the hill, the more they do for us, because they don’t make concessions to the West ... at the expense of the states, they essentially did not stop the Cold War, we just weak and the game was one goal .... now everything is changing
    1. bask
      bask 23 March 2013 07: 31 New
      +8
      Rykh Aron writes that Putin’s “innovation”

      We already had one on the site, Aron Zaavi, wrote a lot of anti-Russian things.
      Another Aron is now from the United States, pushing all the bullshit to push.
      I NEED A SOCIALIST WAY OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY. WHEN GDP GOES TO THIS. THE STAN WILL BECOME THE WORLD GEOPOLITICAL LEADER AGAIN.
      Then us. Amers and other liberalists will respect and fear.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 23 March 2013 07: 45 New
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        Quote: bask
        Then us. Amers and other liberalists will respect and fear.

        Hi Bask! about socialism. until the next major crisis we can only dream about it. the rotten system will collapse, then it will be combed. About respect. But when we were respected request but they were always afraid! Even in the most troubled times, they have it at the genetic level hi
        1. smel
          smel 23 March 2013 07: 59 New
          +6
          but they were always afraid!
          Yes, bloodsucking squadx is always afraid that he will be slapped or torn out (albeit with meat), and then crushed
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 23 March 2013 11: 24 New
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            Quote: smel
            Yes, the bloodsucking squad is always afraid that they will slap it or tear it apart (albeit with meat), and then crush it


            They are afraid that even the little eyes are blinking. But still they continue to suck, scum ...
        2. bask
          bask 23 March 2013 08: 08 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          about socialism. until the next major crisis we can only dream about it. a rotten system will collapse

          I welcome Alexander .. but socially oriented, reforms ((I hate this word ((((it is necessary to carry out.
          Put under control ,, Gazprom ,, Rosneft ,, Put under control of the state, military-industrial complex ,,, Aeroflot ,,,
          And for embezzlement-the court and execution.
          Then again respect. And now. Oligarchs who have 90% of the entire former state. The property lives beyond the hill of their children, wives, contributions, in the same place. For them, Russia is a cash cow, a source of HALYAVNYH INCOME.
          While in Russia there will be neo-Darwinism in the economy, do not wait for economic breakthroughs. hi
          1. Normal
            Normal 23 March 2013 09: 35 New
            +3
            Great bask
            Welcome back to the socio-political theme! And then all the tanks and armored vehicles ....
            Quote: bask
            I NEED A SOCIALIST WAY OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY. WHEN GDP GOES TO THIS. THE STAN WILL BECOME THE WORLD GEOPOLITICAL LEADER AGAIN.

            Alas, the GDP will not go for it when, due to its personal qualities and preferences. More likely to continue the current policy. The conflict with the United States is precisely that Americans want world hegemony and do not tolerate any objections to their policies.
            Putin, as a former KGB officer, is well acquainted with the “salami strategy” and understands that US hegemony over former allies and republics of the USSR is a threat to him personally. As soon as the United States abandons attempts to establish world domination, Putin’s conflicts with the Americans will blow like smoke. Contradictions are not in the socio-political system of Russia and the USA, but in who is more important in the post-Soviet space
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 23 March 2013 09: 47 New
              +3
              I’m looking at the photo for the article, two flags of the USA and the Liberal RF - and I feel disgust, how similar they are, even the colors are the same!
              As for the confrontation between the GDP and the USA, I have the impression that the GDP and the USA are enthusiastically divided, but the Russian people are on the sidelines and are interested in both sides only as a source of labor for mining (for GDP and as a guard of minerals, so as not to be taken away).
              1. askort154
                askort154 23 March 2013 17: 39 New
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                Quote..C_mirnov .... As for the confrontation between the GDP and the USA, I have the impression that the GDP and the USA are enthusiastically divided, but the Russian people are on the sidelines and are interested in both sides only as a source of labor for mining (for GDP also as a guard of minerals, so as not to be taken away)

                Dear, this is very similar to the Russian proverb - “after a fight, don’t wave their fists” Who, you see, who could stand after this devastation and raise a country (not micro-countries like Georgia
                , and Estonia, etc.). in two steps? If you know and keep quiet, then you should go to the stake. Who do you think was able to do this? Speak please
                otherwise it sounds like unconstructive criticism.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 23 March 2013 18: 29 New
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                  The fact is that such people are not given access to the media! Therefore, we do not know them. As an option, for example, Ilyukhin, Boris Mironov. Yes, there are few honest and smart people in Russia; they simply are not shown on TV!
                  1. Nick
                    Nick 23 March 2013 23: 27 New
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                    Quote: S_mirnov
                    The fact is that such people are not given access to the media!

                    But did it prevent Minin and Pozharsky from saving Russia?
            2. bask
              bask 23 March 2013 10: 00 New
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              Quote: Normal
              you, the GDP will not go for it any time, due to its personal qualities and preferences.

              That is the whole point. What is the LIBERAL ECONOMY. COURSE !!!
              I don’t understand at all about the domestic GDP policy. Flirting and direct support of the Islamists, oligarchs of all stripes, the import of millions of migrants into the camp.
              WHEN ANYTHING WILL BE IN THE GOVERNMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE PRESIDENT, WORK PATRIOTICALLY TURNED OFFICIALS.
              Now some Jews and liberals ..
              1. skeptic
                skeptic 23 March 2013 11: 57 New
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                Quote: bask
                WHEN ANYTHING WILL BE IN THE GOVERNMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE PRESIDENT, WORK PATRIOTICALLY TURNED OFFICIALS.
                Now some Jews and liberals ..


                Probably not in this life. Almost all government officials and their entourage have already been assaulted (not for one term), so they will not miss a single law or action that infringes them. Imagine that you bought a car, a house, eat what you want, ride wherever you want, etc. (how you earned this money, let’s let it go) and suddenly the guys come and offer to take it and give it all up. What moved inside? Putin does not have a team of incorruptible and smart associates. Any of his sharp movements now, against those in power, may simply be the last. And imagine ... even without external intervention.
            3. skeptic
              skeptic 23 March 2013 11: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Normal
              As soon as the United States abandons attempts to establish world domination, Putin’s conflicts with the Americans will blow like smoke. Contradictions are not in the socio-political system of Russia and the USA, but in who is more important in the post-Soviet space


              I agree completely. The US needs help first [b] to flare up [/ b]. Not by military methods, but by their method, ideologically. As amers pushed the idea that the CENTER, i.e. Moscow deprives the republic of opportunities for rapid growth, [b] separately [/ b]. And how would the states live perfectly without Washington overwhelming them, because the whole world hates America only because of the rotten top. Rise the oppressed states, individually you will become richer and more successful. In short, the guys also need help. Like that.
            4. smile
              smile 23 March 2013 13: 43 New
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              Normal
              The United States will abandon attempts to establish world domination only by departing to another world ... it's nice that you think Pu will outlive them ...:))) ... Khrushchev, oddly enough, issued a gorgeous phrase, something like -We contradictions only on the land issue, who will bury someone in the ground ... :)))
          2. akendram
            akendram 23 March 2013 09: 54 New
            +1
            What are you talking about? Russia has not yet been confiscated, what kind of execution is there. We hope that they will shoot each other, only without outside help this will not happen
            1. skeptic
              skeptic 23 March 2013 12: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: akendram
              only without outside help this will not happen


              Likely.
        3. baltika-18
          baltika-18 23 March 2013 10: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          about socialism. until the next major crisis we can only dream about it. a rotten system will collapse,

          So the crisis is just around the corner.
          The dollar bubble is already inflated to the limit, and they themselves will organize the crisis. The dollar mass must be reduced periodically, otherwise the overstock will work.
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 23 March 2013 13: 40 New
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          For us, in general, they are all the same afraid or respected. The main thing is not to get in the way ...
      2. hommer
        hommer 23 March 2013 09: 18 New
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        Quote: bask
        I NEED A SOCIALIST WAY OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY. WHEN GDP GOES TO THIS. THE STAN WILL BECOME THE WORLD GEOPOLITICAL LEADER AGAIN.


        Support! good

        And as for the Anglo-Saxons and their policies, there is an exhaustive statement:

        In fact, Mr. Churchill and his friends in England and the USA present something like an ultimatum to nations that do not speak English: recognize our domination voluntarily, and then everything will be all right, otherwise war is inevitable.

        I.V. Stalin on Churchill's Fulton speech.
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 23 March 2013 10: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: bask
        I NEED A SOCIALIST WAY OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY. WHEN GDP GOES TO THIS. THE STAN WILL BECOME THE WORLD GEOPOLITICAL LEADER AGAIN.

        I support Basque.
        Nationalization of the extraction of raw materials, metallurgy, large chemistry, energy, transport, planning, investment in agriculture, the creation of agro-industrial enterprises.
        Capitalism is something I'm fed up with.
        1. bask
          bask 23 March 2013 11: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: baltika-18
          , metallurgy, large chemistry, energy, transport, planning

          Strategic sectors are only in the hands of STATES. 100%
          And planned economy. HOW TO LIVE WITHOUT PLAN? Each person plans his day. And here, the economy and security of a huge country. !!!!
      4. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2013 11: 44 New
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        Stupidity! First of all, we need the strong power of the STATES, who put the development and prosperity of their native state, and not the "stupid" stuffing of their pockets, at the forefront .... And then, when the States begin to flourish, when the vast majority of people will live with dignity honestly seeking all the best, then they will start envying us and reaching out for us ...
      5. kris
        kris 23 March 2013 12: 36 New
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        and the change of political regimes from Boris Yeltsin to Vladimir Putin. ”

        What is it like ?

        bask NEEDS A SOCIALIST WAY TO DEVELOP A COUNTRY. WHEN GDP GOES TO IT. THE STAN WILL BECOME A WORLD GEOPOLITICAL LEADER AGAIN.

        How do you imagine this?
        Putin takes away property from friends? laughing
    2. luka095
      luka095 24 March 2013 16: 00 New
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      Dear Sasha. I agree with you, but I want to add a few lines.
      Please note that the author of the article considers the axiom "negative aspects of Putinism and ... well-known crimes of this regime." On this score in the West there has been a steady consensus, as they say. Figuratively speaking, these guys are sitting on their bell tower and spit on everyone else, because they only consider themselves holier than all saints ...
  2. smel
    smel 23 March 2013 07: 19 New
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    Non-Russian author. !!! We are not for our privileged position !!! We are against your desire to be in this position, to decide the fate of peoples, to climb everywhere with your advice, to sell your green candy wrappers for material goods ... Leave us alone .. Take your soldiers home ... Repent of your sins. Then bile will stop tormenting you
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 23 March 2013 08: 07 New
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      Quote: smel
      Non-Russian author.

      “In general, I try to stay away from overly emotional and sophisticated tidings of the odiousness of the Russian regime, which sound enviable in Washington. This is because my main interest is in understanding Russia as it is (which is quite difficult, given the size of the country and its complexity), and because I generally think that bullying and lecturing to other countries is almost never effective. "- http://www.inosmi.ru/politic/20110709/171816493.html
      I highlighted vividly characterizes such authors in their approaches to the examination of Russia, the dimensions do not give them rest, this is their main "complexity". It’s much easier to “consider” small and homogeneous states - it’s easier to bend the latter ...
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 23 March 2013 09: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Kurkul
        This is because my main interest is in understanding Russia as it is

        Mind does not understand Russia,
        No yardstick to measure:
        She has a special feature -
        You can only believe in Russia.
  3. fenix57
    fenix57 23 March 2013 07: 44 New
    +1
    I will try this way: the Baltic countries (the former Soviet republics) will keep them for themselves - they are not for nothing. But the strategic “pause” in relations with the Russians is primarily necessary for the Yankees [b] "... you better be better ..." [/ b](V. Vysotsky). We would have been busy with our internal problems so far, how they have accumulated ..... And then they climb where they do not ask ...
    1. bask
      bask 23 March 2013 08: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: fenix57
      they climb where they don’t ask ...

      They not only climb, but also a rod where they are not asked. And they have already received it more than once in LGAZ., Or in an eyebrow .. laughing
      In Afghanistan and Iraq. Receive in Syria.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 23 March 2013 10: 07 New
      +4
      Let me remind you that Russia borders on several states that under the US treaty are obligated to protect, states that, from a military point of view, are as dear to us as the American land is dear to us.


      Let the American land rest in peace. Nobody letting out the genie out of the bottle
      can not be calm for his balls, even the one who released it.
      1. bask
        bask 23 March 2013 10: 25 New
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        Quote: Ascetic
        mouth the American earth you will rest in peace. Having released the "genie" from the bottle no one

        I agree with YOU ASKET 100%. Especially when on ,, freedom ,, ARABIC ,, JINN ,,,,,
        It will also blaze in the states themselves, I think the wait is not long ....
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 23 March 2013 11: 55 New
        +1
        And always authors with surnames on "IS" emit reinforced concrete confidence - a barren swamp inhabited by (as yet) actively dying out evil loafers, the SGA will "protect to the last drop of blood!" Not noticing anything around ...
        For example, the fact that they themselves were infected by the very concept of protecting something from the damned Russians. Anglo-Saxons do not protect anything but their money. And theirs - exactly for the allocated amount. With what fright to stand up for the Baltic states, worth minus three rubles ?! Every mind is limited, only stupidity is unlimited ....
  4. Goga
    Goga 23 March 2013 07: 56 New
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    - quote - "... discussing the supposedly unique negative aspects of Putinism and listing the already well-known crimes of this regime ..." - well, yes, it was our regime that bombed Yugoslavia and Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan ... yes, "analyst "from the word anus fool
    - quote - "... American foreign policy, built around the idea of" world domination ", and Russian foreign policy, based on the desire for" hegemony in the region "" - well, purely Jewish arrogance, the US manically trying to follow Hitler’s path to according to the author, this is normal for world domination, but the fact that Russia defends its interests in the immediate environment is “regime crime” bully
    But the most amused was the following - the quote - "... by states that are as dear to us from the military point of view as the American land is dear to us. If Russia tries to establish its dominance over the Baltic countries ..." - I just see how Mark Adomanis and Leon Aron in the partisan detachment, with weapons in their hands, defend the "native Lithuanian" or there "Estonian" from the Russian "invaders" wassat "Dominance over the Baltic countries ..." - why the hell do we need their pigsty with unfinished Natsik and rotten sprats? Well, there would be oil there, and so they are not only Russia - they don’t need their own money, they are spreading like cockroaches throughout Europe and beyond ... hi
    1. Normal
      Normal 23 March 2013 09: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Gogh
      well, purely Jewish arrogance, the fact that the United States manically tries to follow the path of Hitler to world domination is normal in the author’s opinion, and the fact that Russia defends its interests in the immediate environment is a "crime of the regime"
      good drinks
    2. akendram
      akendram 23 March 2013 10: 09 New
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      The Balts themselves are already fleeing from their countries to Europe, since the collapse of the USSR the population of these countries has decreased by 10%. In 70 years, this territory can be taken without a fight wink
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 23 March 2013 10: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Gogh
      The United States is manic trying to follow Hitler’s path to world domination - this is normal in the author’s opinion, and the fact that Russia defends its interests in the immediate environment is “regime crime”

      The article has built a whole chain, which is trying to justify the aggressive policy of the United States by the example of comparisons!
      Show the validity of any action. Only these articles in the media appear with the purity of the rain. Only the name of the country to which the US claims is changed.
  5. amp
    amp 23 March 2013 08: 27 New
    +2
    “Much of Russian foreign policy today is based on the consensus that emerged at the start of the 1990s. This consensus, which appeared on the ruins of the USSR after its collapse, unites the entire political spectrum - from pro-Western liberals to left-wing supporters and nationalists. It is based on three geostrategic imperatives, which say that Russia must remain a nuclear superpower, a great power in all its multifaceted international activities and hegemon in its region, that is, a political, military and economic leader. This consensus holds the line, for which Russia cannot retreat, for in this case it will sacrifice its sense of pride and even national self-consciousness. Such a point of view turned out to be surprisingly resilient, having survived the post-revolutionary perturbations and changes of political regimes from Boris Yeltsin to Vladimir Putin. ”

    Well, the liberals do not exactly agree with this. Give them free rein they will cut nuclear missiles, they will give the Kuril Islands to the Japanese, Siberia to the Americans.
    1. Normal
      Normal 23 March 2013 09: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: amp
      Well, the liberals do not exactly agree with this. Give them free rein they will cut nuclear missiles, they will give the Kuril Islands to the Japanese, Siberia to the Americans

      Liberasty have been in power for a very long time. Probably Putin does not allow them to realize their insidious plans. His share was heavy. To be the leader of the liberals, their roof and the guarantor of their safety and at the same time oppose them .... Not everyone is given.
      1. sashka
        sashka 23 March 2013 10: 16 New
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        Quote: Normal
        Liberasti in power for a very long time

        For a long time .. Well, Pu is also a liberal .. Hence the derivative of a liberalist .. Which is considered to be a “foul language” .. The Russian language is “however” .. The country has huge problems .. I hope the word “ass” Moderators will forgive .. and there’s no “assholes.” Not one “promise” before the “election” has been fulfilled .. Only worse. Glory to Pu!?
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 March 2013 12: 25 New
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          Quote: Sasha
          Only worse. Glory to Pu?

          It seemed to me that the irony and sarcasm in my post are quite obvious. I guess I was wrong ...
    2. skeptic
      skeptic 23 March 2013 12: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: amp
      Well, the liberals do not exactly agree with this. Give them free rein they will cut nuclear missiles, they will give the Kuril Islands to the Japanese, Siberia to the Americans.


      And so on to the molecular level. If we give them free rein.
  6. Bigriver
    Bigriver 23 March 2013 08: 42 New
    +6
    Perhaps the Russians will eventually give up aspirations become a hegemon in the regionhowever, until they do this ..,

    Mark Adomanis is one of the imputed mass media.
    But, damn it .., with his "regional hegemonism of Russia" he simply got sick. Man does not understand the reason for the desire of Russia to ensure the belt of loyal states.
    For this, just being a journalist is not enough.
    The article is zero.
  7. Sirocco
    Sirocco 23 March 2013 09: 10 New
    +8
    The article is so-so, with a sweetheart. But after reading it, I thought about it, And someone the USA does not allow here, they will not allow it. Who are they these USA? They have a soul like a Latvian, a member and a soul. At least Russia is on the world stage a supplier of Brains, energy, weapons, etc., and what do the USA supply and produce? Green paper? and how do blacksmiths resell manufactured in China?
    1. akendram
      akendram 23 March 2013 10: 18 New
      +1
      the article sucks agree. But still, amers are ahead of the rest, since they can attract brains, do not abandon science to arbitrariness. Yes, and copyright is protected, from the idea to the implementation of the product in a short cycle. But we came up with a useful thing and run around all the offices collect certificates, you look at the pension you collect ...
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 March 2013 10: 28 New
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        Quote: akendram
        .And we came up with a useful thing and run around all the offices of the certificate to collect, you look at the pension you collect ...

        Why collect certificates. Amer will buy, China will make, and they will sell to us. As in the case of the Israeli barrel, which shoots from around the corner. Who is the author of this invention? That's right, our man, whom everyone kicked off, and the Israelis asked to see, to test, so to speak, and what in the end? As always)))))
  8. Atlon
    Atlon 23 March 2013 09: 51 New
    +3
    Aron spends a lot of time talking about supposedly unique negative aspects of Putinism and listing already good known crimes this phedgehog.

    Wouldn’t you go ass, Mr. Aron? And then we recall the "well-known crimes" of the Washington "regime." And I assure you, there will be many more! And in general, do not teach me how to poke my nose! I saw you in the coffin!
  9. sashka
    sashka 23 March 2013 10: 06 New
    +6
    Quote: Sirocco
    Who are they these USA? They have a soul like a Latvian, a member and a soul.

    A relative from Tashkent was retraining for Boeing in Seattle .. And he decided to buy "gifts" from the USA .. So I didn’t find Amersky ones .. China, Mexico, Brazil .. well, so on the list .. For the soul, neither history nor traditions .. Korney Chukovsky has a verse about "Cockroach". It looks like ..
  10. lav566
    lav566 23 March 2013 10: 41 New
    +2
    Russia has the right to have on its long borders
    friendly neighbors. This is the legal right of the country.
    The American Judeo-Plutocratic Elite
    obsessed with the idea of ​​world domination. And they try to us
    prove that they have the right to do so.
    One hope, in a couple of years their problems will be covered
    them completely and then they will not be up to it.
  11. Nitup
    Nitup 23 March 2013 10: 44 New
    0
    Putin pursues a policy that, in his opinion, serves Russia's national interests, paying little attention to US interests.


    Michael McFaul, US Ambassador to Russia
  12. UAZ Patriot
    UAZ Patriot 23 March 2013 11: 13 New
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    Into the frames! And they just started to understand it !!! )))
  13. Bosk
    Bosk 23 March 2013 11: 17 New
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    If Russia is scolded, then it is moving in the right direction, but if they begin to praise ... then it means we have some kind of jamb.
  14. optimist
    optimist 23 March 2013 11: 31 New
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    The article is about nothing. Like "snow is white and cold, and fire is red and hot." No need to seek patriotism in the behavior of the current government in the Russian Federation. He is no more there than chastity in a brothel. Just GDP with the company perfectly remember the fate of Milosevic, Hussein and Gaddafi. And the role of the local bourgeoisie, which after their fall was pushed into the background. So let's not confuse patriotism and pragmatism.
    1. Sinope
      Sinope 23 March 2013 11: 55 New
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      An article about where one and a dyot (Mark Adomanis) disagree with the other (Leon Aron).
    2. skeptic
      skeptic 23 March 2013 12: 41 New
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      Quote: optimist
      No need to seek patriotism in the behavior of the current government in the Russian Federation. He is no more there than chastity in a brothel. Just GDP with the company perfectly remember the fate of Milosevic, Hussein and Gaddafi.


      You don’t have to look, you can don’t think about anything at all. But you try at home, offer to give repeat 70% of the family budget, for example, poor neighbors on the porch. If you can do it without any problems, then either you have no family or just lie. For Putin, the environment is also of great importance, unfortunately it is not all patriotic. Therefore, not everything is not always possible to do as originally planned (including the simplest sabotage of decisions already made). We are from here, even one thousandth of the problems that we are facing, we don’t see. But how easy it is, with the appearance of an expert, to discuss playing chess players, it seems yes I ... But alas, until you sit down yourself, you will not appreciate the complexity of the game in real life.
  15. homosum20
    homosum20 23 March 2013 12: 39 New
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    They are even dumber than they look in their films. The obvious things are called insights and deep understanding.
    And there is only one reason - they suddenly began to realize that the words of the declaration of independence “all people are created equal and all of them are endowed by the Creator with inalienable rights, which include life, freedom and the pursuit of happiness. To ensure these rights, governments are established among the people, vested with fair power with the consent of the governed ... ”concern not only Americans.
    How a lack of money cleanses the brain and contributes to an objective view of the world.
  16. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 23 March 2013 13: 37 New
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    Quote: baltika-18
    , they themselves will organize it and the crisis. The dollar mass must be reduced periodically, otherwise the overstock will work.

    History has shown which MANUFACTURERS prefer ways out of the crisis. Whether you like GDP or not, it works to prepare the country and the armed forces for the new 41 year.
    “Personal resentment and intolerance of other views is not a sign of mind, gentlemen!” Said one movie hero.
    In my opinion, there is something in this, is not it, gentlemen?
  17. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 23 March 2013 13: 41 New
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    Who posted this nonsense here? Not a single thought was expressed clearly and completely ... The author wanted to spit towards the GDP, as a result, he was liquidated from the Ngatuga.
  18. fenix57
    fenix57 23 March 2013 13: 58 New
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    "Let me remind you that Russia borders on several states that are obligated by the US treaty to protect, states that, from a military point of view, are as dear to us as the American land is dear to us"- I just can’t remember which of the states the Americans defended because they (states) are dear to them, like American land ... hi
  19. I think so
    I think so 23 March 2013 20: 25 New
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    The article is the hell of a flawed bastard .... imagining himself capable of understanding something ... It seems their sunset is already close ...
  20. Kopvin
    Kopvin 31 March 2013 17: 56 New
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    “In the whole world we have only two faithful allies - our army and navy. All the others, at the first opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. ”
    These are the words of the Russian emperor Alexander III Peacemaker ... it was and is and will be ...