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Russia seems to have become a colony of the United States

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Russia seems to have become a colony of the United States

Otherwise, why are we quietly releasing frankly anti-Russian and anti-Russian films?


Recently, another Hollywood action movie “Red Dawn” (“Red Dawn”), which domestic distributors for some reason called “Elusive”, went to the Russian film distribution. Apparently, by association with cult Soviet films about the “elusive avengers” of the Civil War period. Especially since the storyline of Soviet films and American “Elusives” is quite similar: both there and there young people, many of whom are still schoolchildren, are fighting for the freedom of their country. Only the Soviet "elusive" are fighting with the White Guards, but the Americans have found a truly exotic enemy - the North Koreans. About how and why the North Koreans were in America, and even in the role of invaders, will be discussed a little later, but first we should talk about stories the creation of the Red Dawn - The Elusive.

Even before the director of "Elusive" Dan Bradley began shooting, it was known that this film will be a remake of the same film "Red Dawn" 1984, directed by John Milius, based on the book of the famous American, so to speak, writer Tom Clancy. You can talk about Tom Clancy and his books for a long time, but the easiest thing to do is to characterize him with one phrase - “militant stars and stripes graphomaniac”. Clancy is also called an author who works in the genre of alternative history, but this is fundamentally wrong, since there is nothing historical in his books. Clancy is more of a fantasy, as he repeatedly described the failed Third World War. Of course, in his books the good stars and stripes guys always won, and the cruelly beaten Russian bear crawled off to lick his wounds "into the depths of Siberian ores." Despite the fact that the work of Tom Clancy can hardly be called literature, nevertheless his writings sometimes inspired some Hollywood figures, especially during the Cold War. That is exactly what happened with the “Red Dawn” of the 1984 model of the year, which came to the Hollywood court just because of its anti-Soviet plot.

The plot of the book and the film is simple and unpretentious, like a faceted glass, to which Clancy, it seems, was often attached in the process of creating his paranoid opuses. The “evil empire”, the Soviet Union, meanly attacks the light of US democracy, occupies half the country, implants socialism with an inhuman face and strongly oppresses the freedom-loving Yankees. But this was not the case: the heroic American schoolchildren from a small town create a partisan detachment and in every possible way poison the life of the invaders, setting up sabotage and sending them to the other world in batches. 1984's Red Dawn is a typical film warlord during the Cold War, as mediocre and meaningless as Rambo-2, Rambo-3, Red Scorpion, and a bunch of Hollywood junk created to raise the cheering patriotic spirit the americans. The creators of this, if I may say so, cinema counted on that.

But the fact is that the cold war is long over, and even Western leaders admit this (at least in words). However, in 2012, movie screens, including Russian ones, came out with a remake of “Red Dawn” - “Elusive”, in which American schoolchildren again fight with Russian paratroopers and, of course, destroy them with all sorts of clever ways. True, the film is slightly “formatted” in accordance with the spirit of the times: this time the Russian paratroopers play only a secondary role, speaking as assistants to the North Korean invaders.

How poor, tiny North Korea has occupied the United States, you ask? It is very simple: first, the North Koreans struck the States with some kind of electromagnetic impulse, and then they took up and threw the troops onto most of the country. All ingenious is simple, which was once again brilliantly proved and even shown by the director of “Elusive” Dan Bradley.

True, the director did not consider it necessary to tell the viewer where the powerful American army had gone, aviation and the fleet. The film generally contains only three American Marines, all three of which, for some reason, are near retirement age. But, as it turned out, they weren’t very much needed: the American schoolchildren had so quickly parted in partisans that even Afghan Mujahideen with twenty years of sabotage experience would envy them. Another star-striped superhero, John Rambo, would have felt unprofitable. While he was swinging for many years, learning to fly a helicopter and shoot arrows with exploding arrows, his fellow countrymen on the move mastered all these wisdom and showed the unfortunate North Koreans where the crayfish hibernate. Of course, the Russian paratroopers, who so inappropriately turned up under the hot hand of the elusive school guards, got a lot of nuts.

Giving an artistic assessment of this film, as well as assessing the mental usefulness of its director and screenwriters, does not make sense, since this must be handled by experts. In this case, another question is much more interesting: who allowed the film to be released on Russian screens, in which Russian soldiers are presented in the form of evil and stupid subhumans? And the soldiers are modern, and not from the "damned Soviet past." And why should Russian spectators look at their grotesque paratroopers and at how they are killed by the nauseated American patriotic schoolchildren?

In any other country, for such provocative filmmakers, many officials from those who are responsible for "culture" would have lost their posts. But not in Russia. We have a box office at the forefront, not a sense of national dignity. If our distributors are given free rein, they will, without batting an eye, begin to show the Nazi chronicles in cinemas on 9 on May - in color and in 3D. And there is no doubt that there are many who want to look at something similar, since the “Elusives” gathered in Russia, if not a record, but still a good cashier. In any other country, offended viewers would protest after showing such degrading national dignity, and if it happened somewhere in the Arab Middle East, cinema owners and film distributors would have to hastily carry their feet out of the country. But in Russia, such things pass with impunity. And all because for some officials, distributors and viewers, Russia has long ceased to be the Motherland, and has become “this country,” as they call it. Therefore, when Americans kill Russian "invaders" on the screen, nothing Russian moves in their, as Vysotsky said, "soured and sprinkled" souls. Well killed ... And what's the big deal? Americans are fighting for freedom, for democracy, and "this country", as everyone knows, has always been the aggressor and bulwark of obscurantism. So it turns out that everyone is happy: the distributors profit from the hire of the anti-Russian film, and the audience relaxes with a popcorn bucket and a cola. And what is on the screen - it does not matter, "Elusive" or the Nazi chronicles in 3D ...

Our authorities talk a lot about a strong and independent Russia. The first persons of the state, with feeling and disposition, read in flawlessly correct texts, in which paternal care for the Motherland is clearly visible. But at the same time, the American film companies are quite calmly sending anti-Russian paskvili to roll to Russia, as if this is not an independent sovereign country, but the state of Hawaii - the American colony since 1894. Americans, it seems, it even does not occur to the movies that films like “The Elusive” can offend someone in Russia. And even if it comes, then they don’t care about the opinion of the natives, because from these natives, starting from 1991, for a long time only one thing is required - to change their natural resources for gum, coke and Hollywood film stitching. That is why, before talking about the independence of Russia, you just have to walk to the nearest cinema and see what is going on there. There can go and "Elusive", and "The Secret Pass Dyatlova" - another brainchild of the famous Finnish-American director-Russophobe Renny Harlin, author of the anti-Russian libel "5 days of August." Fortunately, this “film masterpiece”, despite all the protests of the “liberal public”, was still banned from showing in Russia, but only because the showing of this film could have caused anger at the very top. Everyone is well aware of the personal attitude of the first persons of the state to such a character as M. Saakashvili, and the events of August 2008. After such films, shot about any other country, Renny Harlin would be banned from entering for life, but not in Russia. Just two years ago, an American Finn called himself “a real Georgian” and violently branded “Russian invaders” by portraying them in his libel as a gang of degenerates, rapists, sadists and murderers, and now, as if nothing had happened, he comes to Russia and makes films here .

What did the classic say there - do not understand Russia with your mind? How to understand if you know the source data. And they are very simple and obvious: in addition to the Hawaiian colony, the United States has at least one more. Larger is several thousand times richer, but this does not change the essence of the matter. Colony - it is a colony.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 22 March 2013 10: 57 New
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    "In any other country, for such provocative moviegoers, their posts would lose many officials who are responsible for" culture. "

    It seems to me that the author is too dramatic the impact of this consumer goods on the public and our country as a whole. If such rubbish does not make additional advertising, then few will watch it. Our schoolchildren are now laughing at the same Rambo, the pursuit of October and the red scorpions, so not everything is so terrible.
    1. avt
      avt 22 March 2013 11: 04 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      It seems to me that the author is too dramatic the impact of this consumer goods on the public and our country as a whole. If such rubbish does not make additional advertising, then few will watch it. Our schoolchildren are now laughing at the same Rambo, the pursuit of October and the red scorpions, so not everything is so terrible.

      You are deeply mistaken! Even if they laugh, it still spins regularly on TV, the picture is driven into the head. For fun, click the button on the remote control from the box and see that there is not a single independent directorial work! All licensed pop programs adapted by the “native” consumer, from survival contests to various dances and chorus singing.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 March 2013 11: 14 New
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        You speak for the entire television repertoire and broadcasting scheme, and the author exposes the next Amerov moron masterpiece as a super-demonic project. It’s high time for us to get used to the fact that shshashniks sculpt hunchback worse than any DPRK propaganda. You need to prepare your youth for this and explain to her what and why, otherwise at one fine moment some wise guy will present it as an alternative story that was hidden from him. As it often happens now.
        What bothers me more is not the appearance of this art rubbish, but the regular screening on historical and not very channels of Western documentary pseudo-historical films such as "The Unknown War" and in the same vein, this all-historicity will be worse than the cartoons.
        1. akendram
          akendram 22 March 2013 13: 24 New
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          "Unknown War" is generally a masterpiece. laughing The main theater of operations-Southeast Asia)))
          1. Tartary
            Tartary 22 March 2013 14: 07 New
            +4
            Yes, I generally sprout ...
            Let them take off what they want ... The more of this, the MIR will quickly find out about the real many-sided Janus - the face of Amer’s essence ...
            Either they are against Koreans, then against Russians, then against Syrians ... Maybe someone forgot or didn’t indicate? So add anyone!
            Where is their face not yet illuminated? Maybe in Madagascar or Everest?
            Scary!
            Or not?
            1. Zorro1955
              Zorro1955 22 March 2013 14: 57 New
              +6
              "... The more of this, the MIR will quickly learn about the real many-sided Janus - the face of Amer’s essence ..."
              The world will just think about Russia, as I saw in the film. Pay attention the American soldier is a neatly dressed, cultured man struggling with evil. But the Russian soldier is dressed for some reason, his face is overgrown with stubble and a stupid man is complete, who only does what kills civilians, drinks everything that burns and eb *** t everything that moves.
              1. Tartary
                Tartary 22 March 2013 15: 12 New
                -7
                Quote: Zorro1955
                The world will just think about Russia, as I saw in the film. Pay attention the American soldier is a neatly dressed, cultured man struggling with evil. And the Russian soldier is dressed for some reason, his face is overgrown with stubble and the stupid man is full,

                Yes, let him think if you go. - but then there will be a surprise ... Here the downs will rejoice.
                Quote: Zorro1955
                who only does what kills civilians, drinks everything that burns and ... everything that moves

                Where is the truth here - everything is straightforward about me, superfluous only about the killings, especially civilians - although this is like trampling ...
                And the most interesting thing is that I do not suffer from this! But let the viewer of the “masterpiece” try to repeat ... Yes, even without a Russian (!) Instructor.
                In places, of course, I bend over in the comments, but I won’t take the words back - laziness. And there - be as it will ...
              2. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 22 March 2013 16: 26 New
                +2
                Quote: Zorro1955
                The world will just think about Russia, as I saw in the film.

                I agree with you, Alexander, you can’t take this easily and naturally, and then you have to convince opponents of the opposite with blood.
        2. Goga
          Goga 22 March 2013 14: 15 New
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          Vladimir - Colleague, the author of the article is not so much engaged in the analysis of this "film" as the question is asked - why does such a "hat" get onto the screens of cinemas in our country unhindered? And here it’s quite appropriate to supplement the author’s question - well, this is a product of the United States, but what do we release on screens? What goes on NTV about the Great Patriotic War? Remember how here on the site we were all outraged, but only .... The Minister of Culture seems to be the right one for us, but once it becomes possible for such "masterpieces" to appear on the screen, it means that the Minister is somehow out of work ... request
          1. Georgs
            Georgs 22 March 2013 14: 33 New
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            The people, everything is just like a bast shoe. The box office is now ruled by the Makar god, nicknamed Chistogan. They do not take rental Russian paintings, no fees. The average man is bored with the strain of his brain for thought or worry. They go bad with popcorn. Another thing is when the screen smoke, roar and nimble guys all in a chocolate world save from horseradish, you understand what. Here you and horror, and fun, and do not need to think. Business, in a word. Well, he is in antagonisms with culture, as it is not difficult to notice. An mass.
            1. vjhbc
              vjhbc 23 March 2013 00: 49 New
              +2
              I honestly for a very long time probably since the collapse of the USSR did not see our good films
            2. taseka
              taseka 23 March 2013 05: 51 New
              +2
              I agree - GeorgGS - 15 years of the information war, against Russia - yielded results - our youth (not all of them, of course, 60%) stupidly watches how they are soaked by the "elusive", while eating popcorn and shouting - "Wow"
              1. Explore
                Explore 23 March 2013 22: 14 New
                +2
                Young people are probably people under 50?

                And you think if she looks Elusive or Expendables, then she really thinks that all Yankees are supermen and in case of war it is better to give up right away?

                By the way, in this film the Russian Yankees did not "drench." Surprisingly, the Russians and the Koreans “soaked” the US Army, and the miserable partisans had to shoot the Koreans from under silence. The film is stupid, but still cheerful with its dullness.
            3. cumastra1
              cumastra1 23 March 2013 12: 50 New
              +4
              I completely agree that Mr. Second came after Mr. First (see "The Man from the Capuchin Boulevard" there the whole process is shown in detail). And that’s all.
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 22 March 2013 15: 49 New
            +4
            Quote: Gogh
            What goes on NTV about the Great Patriotic War?

            And what comes out is complete nonsense. “Armored train”, “Under the shower of bullets”, “Saboteur” just do not shoot about WWII, do not know how and do not shoot. Who is interested in the theme of the Second World War, full of Soviet paintings. From the simplest type of "Heavenly Slow Walk" to the "Ivanov Childhood".
            1. Shumer
              Shumer 22 March 2013 20: 21 New
              +8
              I agree with you, Soviet paintings about the Second World War look more realistic and believable in relation to modern paintings.
              1. Hudo
                Hudo 22 March 2013 22: 34 New
                +7
                Quote: Shumer
                I agree with you, Soviet paintings about the Second World War look more realistic and believable in relation to modern paintings.


                So it’s for the soul, and then popcorn.
                1. plebs
                  plebs 23 March 2013 09: 50 New
                  +1
                  So it’s for the soul, and then under popcorn
                  Absolutely right, take Larisa Shepitko’s “Ascent” or Alexei German’s “Check on the Roads”, such films cannot be made by today's Mikhalkovs and will not be watched by the Unified State Generation.
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 22 March 2013 22: 49 New
                +5
                Quote: Shumer
                I agree with you, Soviet paintings about the Second World War look more realistic and believable in relation to modern paintings.

                so it’s not only films about the Great Patriotic War, but to take 1612, Alexander Nevsky, 1812, the director wants to tear his hands off, and the costumers didn’t seem to have them at all, looking at the “hussars” orders
          3. Pushkar
            Pushkar 23 March 2013 16: 02 New
            +2
            I read somewhere that in 2011, 82 films were shot with state money in Russia, half of which did not appear on the screens. Of the remaining 6, they paid off in half with sin. The main occupation of filmmakers, led by Barin Mikhalkov, is cutting the budget. And then, the distribution network belongs to to the Americans - they created it.
        3. dark_65
          dark_65 22 March 2013 16: 04 New
          +3
          Weak in the internet is not indifferent for everyone to start collecting signatures against?
        4. AndreyAB
          AndreyAB 23 March 2013 08: 58 New
          +3
          It won’t happen if the screen is full of Western filth, the Americans smashed fascism in school history books, and they always beat Russians in their movie masterpieces, the complex of inferiority and dependence on the enlightened west is heavily driven in and we don’t see any actions from lawmakers and the government, this is our state policy state, or betrayal of their people for the sake of their masters, the heirs of the hunchback!
      2. Rink
        Rink 22 March 2013 11: 23 New
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        Quote: avt
        Even if they laugh, it still spins regularly on TV, the picture is driven into the head.

        Absolutely right! And especially - among young people, children. Adults still understand that this is nonsense, not true. But how can I tell a child that on the screen is a fiction, someone else's propaganda, and in fact, everything is wrong. "And if not - why is this being shown?" - My seven-year-old asks, and how to explain to him so that he understands?

        And as for the film itself ... If it is so crappy and untalented - why release it on screens? there are few other paintings released by the center of propaganda of the American way of life called Hollywood? What is such an urgent need to force our rental to produce such stupid crafts?
        Film distribution has a clear structure, it is managed by the Ministry of Culture. There are officials who allowed him to hire, put his signature. As if I see no reason why questions should be asked in the air ...
        First a question for the minister - what do your subordinates do? the second - directly to the people who selected the paintings for rent and to the person who signed the permission for rental for this painting.
        There’s nothing to think about for a long time. In this particular case, only a few people are directly involved, quite specific, not incognito at all.

        And the legislative branch of government, probably, should introduce some bills that help the Ministry of Culture to conduct the right policy in the future ... Yes, and its own films and TV shows, which Russia is currently shooting, leave the feeling that the 90s did not end. At least, when only my mother-in-law doesn’t turn on the TV, there are heart-rending screams and shooting. With a child, you can’t turn on the telly, even during the day.
      3. Iraclius
        Iraclius 22 March 2013 12: 40 New
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        avt, in something you are right. For example, I don’t watch TV for a long time, except for scientific and educational channels. Such an upbringing. my daughter does not watch American cartoons, but only the ones that I pick up are mostly Soviet. We read Russian folk tales with her.
        Nephews are also more inclined to knowledge and culture. Many times we went to museums in Moscow and St. Petersburg - the boys' eyes flare up with our art, and talking about military museums or the knight’s hall is ridiculous.
        So in many respects everything depends on us - parents and relatives.
      4. selbrat
        selbrat 22 March 2013 13: 33 New
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        Quote: avt
        anyway, it spins regularly on TV, the picture is driven into the head

        That's for sure. I confess, to say the least, was surprised when on February 23 all parts of Rambo were shown on one of the channels. Blasphemy is just some ... crying
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 14: 19 New
          +5
          Quote: selbrat
          . I confess I was mildly surprised when on February 23 all parts of Rambo were shown on one of the channels all day

          Ren TV, it's "native"
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 22 March 2013 16: 19 New
            +5
            This channel is clearly anti-Russian, along with this Maxim channel, a lump of evil and hatred! On Ren TV, Russia is constantly exposed only in black light. And on all dates and holidays that are significant for Russia, they persecute either the American fighters from morning to night, or the films of Russian directors who are obviously false, distorting history, discrediting the honor and dignity of Russian people. I am very sorry that in the Ministry of Culture everything is left to chance, and there is no censorship on TV.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 March 2013 15: 06 New
          +5
          They have an original sense of humor. I remember on May 1 they showed American disaster films all day
      5. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 22 March 2013 13: 42 New
        +4
        However, I agree with you avt (not because of the large number of +). Our children are already starting to think that the USA won the Second World War
      6. Gari
        Gari 22 March 2013 16: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        You are deeply mistaken! Even if they laugh, it still spins regularly on TV, the picture is driven into the head. For fun, click the button on the remote control from the box and see that there is not a single independent directorial work! All licensed pop programs adapted by the “native” consumer, from survival contests to various dances and chorus singing

        Totally agree
        We were raised on what ideals and who was our idol: Stakhanov, Sailors, Gastello, Zhukov, Gagarin watched films about Shtirlitsa and Zhiglova
        that is, that our country is our common homeland - the USSR, we had to love and protect it, build it
        And now alien Hollywood ideals and heroes where everything is only for money
        and all under American sauce, and only they won the war,
        prostitution is normal, because it’s a business, to surrender or sell a person too, what friendship, what Homeland, it’s good there is warmth
        etc.
        All this is driven into the head, and the younger generation
      7. Genur
        Genur 22 March 2013 16: 32 New
        +5
        http://ru-an.info/news_content.php?id=2184

        Last article
        "The arrogance of power is powerless?
        Alexander Vorobyov-Rhodesky, March 22, 2013 "
        MARCH 13 died suddenly.
        READ - DO NOT READ.
        A lot of interesting
        For example:
        USSR fulfilled allied duty! Early advance at the tearful request of W. Churchill of the Soviet armies on the offensive saved the 2nd front from final defeat.
        And how did the "allies" pay off? First, a violation of the Yalta agreements on zones of occupation. True, he immediately received in exchange a concrete idea of ​​the real power of the Soviet troops, for trying to act secretly, as befits a scammer, they did not inform about the territories occupied by them, in violation of the agreements.
        And they ran into a crushing liberation blow from aviation and artillery, including superheavy RVGK - the reserve of the Supreme Commander, having suffered, despite the fog, considerable losses, especially in technology, although they darted much faster than in the Ardennes.
        W. Churchill also had to apologize ...
      8. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 March 2013 16: 33 New
        -5
        One mudshlep removed, another rolls tantrums. Moreover, on this basis, he called us a colony. Look at the rush todai - there the American dream is also not weakly leveling up, comparing Obama with Ahmadizhan. So what? Do not like it - do not look. And if your children watch this dregs, it’s up to them to blame for the children themselves, and not to hyster all their free and working hours in their newspaper.
        A very cheap tantrum on the topic of kvass patriotism is an article. Nafik reduce patriotic moods to a stupid war with some premature director from the United States.
        1. valerei
          valerei 23 March 2013 14: 12 New
          +4
          A botanologist, it’s not that “I don’t like it - don’t look” and that, they say, Russia’s loss from a premature director. Imagine that you spit in the face, so what? They didn’t knock out their eyes, they didn’t break their jaw, they wiped themselves off for a short while. And, if you consider spitting to be the norm, and the comments on the site are “fervent patriotism”, then I am sorry for you.
      9. Dmitry_2013
        Dmitry_2013 22 March 2013 17: 50 New
        +4
        What can we say about the Americans, we have our own "heroes" in the cinema. What is only Mikhalkov aka Mustachioed Bumblebee with its Burnt by the Sun.
        Terminator nervously smokes on the sidelines ... laughing
        1. Simon
          Simon 22 March 2013 20: 32 New
          +1
          This is when Mikhalkov as a general, with Soviet soldiers went to the pillbox with clubs. Shameful, this is equivalent to throwing our hats. It turns out that all the war with clubs, as primitive, fought.
      10. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 22 March 2013 19: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: avt
        You are deeply mistaken!


        But not very! it seems to me that the “method from the opposite” works even better than direct opposition!
        More and more people are taking the path of not accepting enemy agitation!
        It turns out the right way: WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN ITS PEOPLE! The people will figure it out. And if they tried to take anti-measures, it would be much worse!
        As a debater, our people have tremendous potential!
        Yes, etc., for example, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

        And it pleases!
        Mattresses suffer miscalculations and defeats. HOORAY! am
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 22 March 2013 22: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          not really! it seems to me that the “method from the opposite” works even better than direct opposition!

          in order for this method to work, it should already have some kind of platform in its head, but the modern generation doesn’t have it, they grind it from childhood, that they won the war by filling the corpses of the enemy, that we don’t know what to do, that the main thing is loot, etc. .d.
      11. firefox090
        firefox090 22 March 2013 22: 59 New
        +1
        So yes, you are right, our directors imitate the West. I’m sure only because their films (with a beautiful picture, bright special effects) bring more profit. But it turns out a bunch of Hollywood remakes of old Hallywood movies, BUT the author somehow drew his attention to this ... remake of the original Red Dawn. For me, all these remakes speak of the scarcity of ideas of Western filmmakers. For the film will be a rare, one-time guan.

        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%F0%E0%F1%ED%FB%E9_%F0%E0%F1%F1%E2%E5%F2_%28%F4%
        E8% EB% FC% EC, _1984% 29
      12. Smersh Put
        Smersh Put 23 March 2013 13: 39 New
        0
        In the title of the article, the first two words of excess, since 1991 ,,
      13. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 23 March 2013 14: 30 New
        +3
        QUOTE: "from survival contests to various dances and chorus singing."Napoleon seems to have said:" The songs of the winners always sound over the cities of the vanquished. "
        Today is the century of cinema and TV .. The descendants of Moses "this country" is needed only for gesheft. Why do they need the national identity of the natives? And suddenly they will see their light and see who the “beneficiary” is. Then again go dear Agasfera? They cannot allow this. That brain ... young brains. It is empty, because the state has not invested anything patriotic there. They even “forgot” the textbooks, since Sores (Judah!) Took care of it. Spiritually disarm - half win. So burr work for the future, and our fifth column cuts the loot, pushing the natives in Hollywood "beads".
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 22 March 2013 11: 08 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      . Our schoolchildren are now laughing at the same Rambo, the pursuit of October and the red scorpions, so not everything is so terrible.

      So it’s so ....... but also
      Quote: avt
      Even if they laugh, it’s still spinning regularly on TV, the picture is driven into the head

      This is not worth ignoring.
      In theory, censorship is necessary on TV, because a lot of dirty tricks are spinning.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 11: 20 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        In theory, censorship is necessary on TV, because many kinds of dirty tricks are spinning.

        Well, we’ll prohibit it, we’ll only give additional advertising to the film. Young people will rush to the Internet to look for this film there. Remember the end of the 80s, they showed Rambo 2 in the video salons, the people walked in and out, saying, aah, cool movie. We didn’t even think about the plot, that there they kill our soldiers. For me, American vomit, especially where our people are killed, immediately goes to the rank -G ... Oh! An alternative is needed, it is useless to forbid people to turn away from G ... themselves, but for this all the same Russian national idea is needed.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 22 March 2013 11: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, we’ll prohibit it, we’ll only give additional advertising to the film. Young people will rush to the Internet to look for this film there. Remember the end of the 80s, they showed Rambo 2 in the video salons, the people walked in and out, saying, aah, cool movie. We didn’t even think about the plot, that there they kill our soldiers. For me, American vomit, especially where our people are killed, immediately goes to the rank -G ... Oh! An alternative is needed, it is useless to forbid people to turn away from G ... themselves, but for this all the same Russian national idea is needed.

          I agree completely.
          1. vilenich
            vilenich 22 March 2013 12: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Well, we’ll prohibit it, we’ll only give additional advertising to the film.

            Certainly a ban, this is not a way out. Or it may oblige distributors to twist the official commentary on the film from the Ministry of Culture at the beginning of the film, in which they give an objective assessment of the artistic and historical value of the film, but those distributors who ignore this requirement already have to be mercilessly punished, including distributors on the Internet. It may be somewhat fantastic, but there would be a will, it is time to stop the corruption of the people of their country.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 22 March 2013 13: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: vilenich
              Or it may oblige distributors to twist the official commentary on the film from the Ministry of Culture at the beginning of the film,

              Official comment - they won’t believe it! But if you were to give two films at once - Soviet and foreign on a similar topic ..... then you would be compared. One could just say so in the hall before the session. "We welcome our viewers .... we will bring to your attention .... well, and which movie is better - judge for yourself." In the end, two-part sessions were always at the box office. And the excitement will be - compare! And a reason to think!
            2. Genur
              Genur 22 March 2013 14: 00 New
              0
              An analysis of the causes of this condition is not bad given in http://ru-an.info/news_content.php?id=2128 (Information war against Russia)
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 22 March 2013 15: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: Vladimirets
            I agree completely.

            And I have the same opinion.
        2. Skavron
          Skavron 22 March 2013 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          for this we need the exact same Russian national idea.

          Alexander, what are your suggestions?
          What can be considered a national idea?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 12: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Skavron
            Alexander, what are your suggestions?

            To restore the Iron Curtain and wind a thorn on top. You need to remove your films and such that everyone would be proud of their country, and not spit in another "masterpiece" filmed for our taxes.
            1. Skavron
              Skavron 22 March 2013 12: 42 New
              +1
              At the expense of thorns - the irony? ))))
              My comment below is about movies.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 13: 06 New
                +6
                Quote: Skavron
                At the expense of thorns - the irony? )))

                People should be protected from animals !!! Without irony hi
            2. bask
              bask 22 March 2013 12: 57 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Restore the iron curtain and wind a spike on top.

              Greetings. Alexander, and you try in USA, to release an anti-American film ((((((be you a producer))) they won’t let them go live, even on cable networks. Why amers could, without barbed wire, but we don’t.
              And the main issue in the leadership of all our media is the Jews. They are pursuing their ideology of cosmopolitanism. And they obey, who does not know ...
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 13: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: bask
                Why amers could, without barbed wire, but we do not.

                Hi Bask! because their whole system is built on lies and pseudo-patriotism about which many of them have no idea. Everything is substituted everywhere, but any lie pops up sooner or later, so we should not step on their rake.
              2. Uncle
                Uncle 22 March 2013 15: 53 New
                +3
                Quote: bask
                and you try to release in the US, an anti-American film

                Well, that’s a great idea! T Show Americans with stupid kami, and North Koreans as heroes, promote ads. And I assure you, part of the population will believe in it!
              3. baltika-18
                baltika-18 22 March 2013 17: 10 New
                +3
                Quote: bask
                Why amers could, without barbed wire, but we do not.

                Because Basque, even about our history, Putin speaks in the Jewish Museum of Tolerance.
            3. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 22 March 2013 18: 30 New
              +2
              Hi hi
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              You need to make your own films in such a way that everyone would be proud of their country, and not spit in another "masterpiece" filmed on our taxes.

              And who will shoot? Mikhalkov? so he already filmed to nausea Or those who remove such that without a bottle can not stand?
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 01 New
            +3
            "What can be considered a national idea?" - In our country, the American Gauleiters came up with many national projects and even came up with a national idea. They just don’t specify which nationality these ideas and projects belong to. wink
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 13: 09 New
              +5
              Quote: S_mirnov
              in our country, American Gauleiters

              Smirnov, you were again occupied and captured laughing
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 22 March 2013 17: 57 New
                +3
                “Smirnov, you were again occupied and captured” - our country (USSR) was defeated in the Cold War. Loser countries occupy, to collect tribute (indemnity).
                http://www.proza.ru/2010/10/23/934
                or maybe we have a coup and the occupation regime has already been displaced? No, there were no coups. Everything is like in the bible Gorby gave birth to Yeltsin, Yeltsin brought Putin, Putin gave birth to Medvedev, etc. without any shocks.
        3. Kaa
          Kaa 22 March 2013 12: 29 New
          13
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          . Remember the end of the 80s, in the video salons they showed Rambo 2, people walked in a ramp and going out saying, aaaa, a cool movie.

          Speaking of Rambach. If you randomly recall the main focus of their action games over the past 30 years, an interesting trend is visible. First, the action against the "bad Russians" - before the collapse of the USSR. Next came the Arab terrorists - before the First Iraqi. Then the insidious GDRs stole the US gold reserve - after the fall of the Wall, but before the withdrawal of the GSVG. Then the Muslims went again, but already attacks with the use of airplanes, which they wanted to bring down to some city, before 11.09.11/XNUMX/XNUMX. Then again dictators, Al Qaeda - before the Second Iraqi. Then came terrible epidemics, zombies, after which swine and bird flu appeared. One time - an accident, two - a coincidence, three - a pattern. What's the last thing, North Korea + treacherous Russians? Thank you, "warned - means armed." hi Those who wish can supplement the filmography.
          1. engineer74
            engineer74 22 March 2013 13: 23 New
            +3
            It remains to understand: the authorities order films or the authorities act on films ??
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 22 March 2013 13: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: engineer74
              It remains to understand: the authorities order films or the authorities act on films ??

              Everything is very simple here: to the authorities for movies. wink
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 22 March 2013 21: 53 New
                +1
                "to the authorities of FSUs on films." here you are wrong, the state gives money for making films, for example, “Confrontation” by Migalkov. The truth is I won’t be amazed if the state-wu is really cool ... what kind of films are made with state money.
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 22 March 2013 15: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Kaa
            Those who wish can supplement the filmography.

            I have this observation: in Amer’s films, wives and girls abandon their “heroes”, who left to fight in Vietnam or Iraq. The concept of friendship in our (and human) understanding is absent, everyone is disconnected, the personalities are gray and interesting only for their extreme deviations from a harmonious state. From their films, one can judge the ugliness of the personalities and characters of Americans.
          3. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 22 March 2013 18: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Kaa
            Those who wish can supplement the filmography.

            Vampires against werewolves belay And when the insects fly away from the laboratory are they talking about the Chinese? wassat
        4. Tersky
          Tersky 22 March 2013 12: 47 New
          36
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Youth rush to the internet to look for this movie there.

          Sasha no , we have the “right” youth, and there are positive examples of this:
          laughing . laughing
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 22 March 2013 12: 56 New
            +3
            Victor, hi good This is a class. laughing
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 22 March 2013 15: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: Vladimirets
              This is a class.

              Eugene, hi ! Modern youths still can not throw such pearls laughing
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 13: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Tersky
            we have the “right” youth, and there are positive examples of this

            So they are all morons, their hands are just sharpened under him laughing And instead of a head ...... well, are you in the know wink
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 22 March 2013 15: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And instead of a head ...

              Sasha ..., no further laughing , I’m not young people anymore, I understand perfectly laughing
          3. bask
            bask 22 March 2013 13: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: Tersky
            shah, we have the "right" youth, and positive examples

            Hi zema. I completely agree. The youth we have is golden. But her brains are washed in the media, be healthy. And with the help of Amer’s movie, But the same Amer’s faces are on the screens ...
            1. skrgar
              skrgar 22 March 2013 14: 24 New
              +6
              Quote: bask
              Quote: Tersky
              shah, we have the "right" youth, and positive examples

              Hi zema. I completely agree. The youth we have is golden. But her brains are washed in the media, be healthy. And with the help of Amer’s movie, But the same Amer’s faces are on the screens ...

              Yes, I also agree. I was thinking in the 90s .. "Pi ... p ... the times have come ... the children" have become Americanized .. and they want to be bandits without exception ".. And these children have grown up ... so what? ??? !!! They are now on 22-23-24..let..And look what they write in-contact for example .. and how do they relate to America? !! - Yes, they are overwhelmingly patriots !!! .. Crap the author of the article wrote !! Apparently he wanted to .. He would talk more with young people .. from the age of 20 years old (and from the age of 16 ... what kind of demand? - hang out .. get enough .. and understand other values) .. I'm already in I have no doubt of our youth !! And the fact that they are drawn to "abroad" ..so we wanted to dream at their age "to know the unknown gave" .. (For "reference": I have a son who lives and studies in Russia for 22 years, and my daughter is 18 years old, studies, has an internship in Belgium at their secondary school .. and fucking awesome from their "school" education !! - "Paaap !! They have ZERO knowledge! - They really don’t learn anything !! Freebie!" .. I definitely intend to return to Russia .. And my children have “sea” and I know that I say!) ..
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 22 March 2013 15: 26 New
              +3
              Quote: bask
              with the help of Amer’s ,, movie ,, But on the screens are the same women Amer’s faces ...

              Zema, hello! it's just about the brains that our state is somehow not particularly concerned about protecting these brains from a daily flurry of dirt, vulgarity, and debauchery that simply flow in all directions, with all available means, from the "yellow" press, to TV.
            3. ULxaw86
              ULxaw86 22 March 2013 15: 29 New
              +4
              I propose that Mikhail Zadornov be appointed head of a certain ministry for the revival of the Russian national idea !!!! no more no less !!! rewrite all history textbooks !! ban foreign films promoting all anti-Soviet and anti-Russian. create your own Russian (Slavic) TV radio channel! give authority to control the media and mass media, etc. !!
        5. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 22 March 2013 22: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          but for this we need the exact same Russian national idea.

          I have, I have an idea, and let’s put Vonidze on a stake repeat
          1. ULxaw86
            ULxaw86 24 March 2013 00: 40 New
            +1
            first, close TNT!
            I think the move is unmistakable!
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 23 March 2013 01: 13 New
        +1
        baltika-18
        In theory, censorship is necessary on TV, because a lot of dirty tricks are spinning.

        There has been a long conversation about the creation of public television. How much longer to wait?
    3. Dragonmu
      Dragonmu 22 March 2013 11: 24 New
      +9
      Officials and authorities have nothing to do with it, if they start to cut such shots from films they will be laughed at. The marshes and the rest of the shabaluba will be sharpened in zhezheshekah for a day over flight about what moments were cut out and these moments will take on a sacred meaning. The garbage dump about censorship and so on will begin again. Such an initiative should not come from the authorities, but from the people, this is the only way out in this case.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 11: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: DragonMu
        x The marshes and the rest of the shabaluba

        And whoever listens to these clowns, the majority is against this rubbish on TV.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 11 New
          0
          "And whoever listens to these clowns, the majority is against this rubbish on TV." - you are right, people are gradually getting smarter and can already distinguish truth from lies, but these are those who are already adults. The influence of this muck on children is extremely negative because their brain is not yet able to critically perceive the information received. That is why I am against launching priests in kindergartens and schools.
          As for the clowns, in addition to the swamp organizing committee, I would ascribe to them the leaders of the Duma factions, Medvedev and GDP. I don’t even take their speech as something serious!
          http://demotivation.me/uh3efvxxvn4upic.html
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 13: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: S_mirnov
            That is why I am against launching priests in kindergartens and schools.

            Is it even better to close the temples and Mr. Smirnov? Europe goes that way.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 22 March 2013 13: 48 New
              11
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Is it even better to close the temples and Mr. Smirnov?

              Why close up? It just has to be Sunday schools. Where again the parents lead. And then you never know in the classroom of children of a different faith? that they also only listen about the Christian religion? At school, and so children are busy, it would be better if the time allotted to the lessons of Christianity was given to patriotic education. They would talk about the heroes of the Second World War, for example. And on weekends - please drive wherever you want. If you want to go to a museum, you want to go to a Sunday Christian school. IMHO.
              1. Skavron
                Skavron 22 March 2013 14: 46 New
                +3
                Quote: Egoza
                It just has to be Sunday schools.

                Elena, support!
                1. Uncle
                  Uncle 22 March 2013 16: 04 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Skavron
                  Elena, support!

                  But not me. A Christian on Sunday should be in the Temple, not a Sunday school. My daughter is studying 6 days a week, poor thing. Let him run around in the courtyard with the girls than sit at school.
              2. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 22 March 2013 14: 51 New
                0
                I really like your position +!
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 22 March 2013 14: 49 New
              +3
              “Better yet, close the temples” - oh, how you want to distort my words! Perhaps this is due to the desire to fit me into the bipolar model of your world, For GDP or for the State Department?
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 06 New
        +1
        "Such an initiative should not come from the authorities, but from the people, this is the only way out in this case." - when the initiative begins to come from People - this is called the Revolution!
        Our government is trying to blame itself for all the responsibility for the situation of the Russian people - actually on the people themselves. Kakba power stands on the side and lectures. For example, the slogan is put forward that corruption must be fought from below!
        Dumb government officials do not even realize that people are really starting to fight corruption from below with the help of hunting trunks!
        http://www.perunica.ru/novosti/1316-narodnyj-mstitel-aleksandr-taran.html
    4. Shveik
      Shveik 22 March 2013 11: 52 New
      +4
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHjsCqOP48Y&list=PL471DC4C544B5A1B9
      Just look at the review and that’s it. What the Red Dawn (remake) that 5 days in August, this is such a bucket that the amers themselves put her a rating below average and films do not pay for themselves by fees.
    5. Iraclius
      Iraclius 22 March 2013 12: 35 New
      +8
      Vladimirets, and I agree with you.
      The author writes everything correctly, in essence. But at the same time he thinks a little narrowly. If we take modern culture, then we need to remove from it:

      1. Computer games where Americans fight with Russians;
      2. Films starting with Rambo 2;
      3. Literature with elements of Klenovism;
      4. American music
      5. MTV;
      6. Fast food.
      7. Etc. etc. to infinity.

      T.O. this is utopia.
      I believe that it is necessary to show it, but to explain to the youth where white, where black, and where gray.
      We watched with my nephew Rambo-2. The 14 guy is about to come. He asks me, uncle, did our soldiers really wear such a crazy uniform at that time? I laugh, explain. He asks about weapons, tactics, elements of politics - I answer him according to my abilities and knowledge. In the end, we laugh together at the movie.
      The goal is achieved - the young man, as a first approximation, learns to critically evaluate the information that is presented to him.
      You can watch everything, but you only need to critically evaluate what is shown.
      Then the grains will separate from the chaff.
      Another thing is that domestic culture somehow does not want or cannot make films on topics that are native to each Russian person, but this is a completely different story.
      1. Dart weyder
        Dart weyder 22 March 2013 12: 55 New
        +8
        Yes, it would be right ..... But this can be left!))))
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 22 March 2013 13: 10 New
          +1
          Dart weyder, ooh, well this is a classic! What are Tesla soldiers and battle bears worth! laughing
          The Americans even have nothing to boast of - dull rednecks!
        2. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 22 March 2013 18: 07 New
          +2
          Ohhh, how many sleepless nights my soldiers stormed enemy targets! I'll go look for her, remember the hot youth))))
        3. gribnik777
          gribnik777 22 March 2013 19: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Dart Weyder
          But this can be left!)))


          And here is the final shot
          1. Kostya pedestrian
            Kostya pedestrian 23 March 2013 19: 33 New
            0
            Stealing from the Marines? In addition, and extinguish the fire - will not enter the frame? Russian soldiers have flare enough not to steal such memorable moments as hoisting the flag over the defeated enemy, but to some kind of wrangel or uvorovus <is the only way out
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 March 2013 12: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Iraclius
        Another thing is that Russian culture somehow does not want or cannot make films on topics that are native to every Russian person, but this is a completely different story.

        That's just the point, but forbidding people to drive foreign cars, because our cars, compared to them, look wretched, is also not an option.
        1. Iraclius
          Iraclius 22 March 2013 13: 15 New
          +5
          In addition, the Americans also fiercely joke on themselves - it is worth recalling the film Idiocracy.

          True, when the Americans realized that they themselves were shown in the film, a serious scandal erupted, but the film was not withdrawn from the box office and no one was imprisoned.
      3. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF 22 March 2013 13: 48 New
        +3
        1.I don’t play shooting anymore. I did not find a toy where you can bring down the Americans.
        2. Rambo I still do not watch with disgust at the Union.
        3. I read literature with elements of Klenovism before the Russian flood, and then I’m tired of it.
        4. Where do you like Russian rock
        5. It was a great anatomist of MTV, but after the bombing of Yugoslavia I do not consume anything American, including and MTV.
    6. akendram
      akendram 22 March 2013 13: 20 New
      +4
      all the same, when you watch such a movie, an unbearable sediment remains. And this does not contribute to raising national self-awareness. Recently on Channel One they showed Armagedon, in which a Russian astronaut in an earflap on the ISS repairs a station with hammer blows. Still, censorship is needed. Cold war may have ended, but the INFORMATION war continues.
      1. Genur
        Genur 22 March 2013 14: 13 New
        0
        "The phenomenon of information warfare is not something new for mankind: if the guns sometimes still calmed down, then the verbal battles between the countries never stopped. More ancient authors tell in detail about sophisticated campaigning companies with the help of which ancient politicians tried to weaken their opponents and demoralize them. "
        This is from http://ru-an.info/news_content.php?id=2128 (Information war against Russia)
    7. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 22 March 2013 13: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It seems to me that the author is too dramatic the impact of this consumer goods on the public and our country as a whole. If such rubbish does not make additional advertising, then few will watch it. Our schoolchildren are now laughing at the same Rambo, the pursuit of October and the red scorpions, so not everything is so terrible.

      I did not even read the article, put a minus. Although I am more likely in agreement with the author, I think it's not worth posting such crap on this site.
      The fact is that I also did not master the movie, but I think that it will not reach the original. I watched it in a roll, the most significant moments, so to speak.
      And the conclusions are as follows. Based on this film and its ilk, one can teach a course in social psychiatry and downization of Western societies.
      A pair of pearls, the DPRK (after defeating South Korea) captures the United States. In this case, the invaders move on the American hammamers that appear from the air. And the key battle “for freedom and justice” is led by a pair of teenagers and three cars. Well done and diby.
      I think the competent authorities missed the film, which, in principle, “from the opposite” shows Russian youth what liberalism and the Western model of society lead to. The effect is guaranteed.
    8. qwert
      qwert 22 March 2013 15: 08 New
      +2
      Today's schoolchildren laugh at Rambo, but fresh Hollywood slops absorb with all their subconscious. That’s the trouble. Yes, plus young people who are already dreaming of leaving for the states, that too will watch such things and become even stronger. And adult men who have served in the SA certainly will not watch such nonsense. But I think this is not about them.
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 22 March 2013 18: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: qwert
        Today's schoolchildren laugh at Rambo, but fresh Hollywood slops absorb with all their subconscious. That’s the trouble. Yes, plus young people who are already dreaming of leaving for the states, that too will watch such things and become even stronger. And adult men who have served in the SA certainly will not watch such nonsense. But I think this is not about them.

        What schoolchildren are you talking about? Where do you see such downs? One thing is the ideological undermining of the 80s, subtle and abstract, and completely different modern clumsy nonsense. The fact is that in the West they completely relaxed in an ideological war and decided that since there are no competitors, it is possible to produce similar rubbish. But they forgot that there is ordinary human sanity that simply chokes on such slag without letting it go anywhere.
        It's not just about this cheap consumer goods, but about the entire Hollywood industry. Normal paintings simply have not been released for 8 years. Why then forbid such rubbish? he will crumble. Moreover, I am sure that this picture is exclusively for internal use in the United States, they process their sheep to fight the DPRK. They no longer even analyze whether citizens will oppose the new military company, crap after Vietnam and have since been working according to a pattern.
        Another question is important for us, the question of ordinary parenting. If the father does not spare time and simply tells his son what is good, what is bad, no Western vyser will change the position of the child. And something to limit is overly clumsy and incriminating position. Another thing is that the state through certain structures can hint to distributors what is PR and what is not. But this work should be hidden and not come to the surface.
        I will also say this, not one of my friends went to this shit, most of them did not even hear. As they say the usual prohodnik, looked at the torrent and forgot. And someone poured millions into it and its promotion.
    9. Kuryanin
      Kuryanin 22 March 2013 15: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It seems to me that the author is too dramatic the impact of this consumer goods on the public and our country as a whole. If such rubbish does not make additional advertising, then few will watch it. Our schoolchildren are now laughing at the same Rambo, the pursuit of October and the red scorpions, so not everything is so terrible.

      I agree with some reservations (it is necessary to prohibit the screening so that it isn’t bad to fine the film distributors and close the director’s entrance). This is the first time I personally personally hear about this film.
    10. Fox
      Fox 22 March 2013 15: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      so not everything is so terrible.

      of course not! it’s still worse ... all the filmets come to order. it was before Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan. but this baida warmed up the “communities” to the planned aggression: “Look what kind of Koreans and Russians are evil, you have to wet them!”
    11. Maks111
      Maks111 22 March 2013 16: 16 New
      -1
      We focus on box office, rather than a sense of national dignity. If our distributors are given free rein, they will, without blinking an eye, begin to show the Nazi chronicle in cinemas on May 9 - in color and in 3D
      Bravo!!! You can’t say better!
    12. starshina78
      starshina78 22 March 2013 19: 20 New
      -2
      I do not agree! Young people, but rather boys and girls rave about the West, though not all, but half for sure. Their idols are girls and boys in groups from the USA, they play computer toys with pleasure, in which tanks (planes, ships, and other equipment) with red stars play the role of the enemy, they revel in Western films and absorb everything that they are rubbed there, but not only the Americans are their idols, but also on our TV. . For example: “Comedy Club” where everything Russian is lowered “below the baseboard”, “Vacations in Mexico”, and other rubbish. They look at all this, and they begin to like life there, and begin to hate Russia. Look at the polls among young people, almost half do not want to live in Raska, as they say. And they read Klensi (he read his hunt "For the Red October" because of curiosity, did not read it, threw the book in the trash), and Pelevin, and another gang - the fraternity. In short, not very good.
    13. scrack
      scrack 22 March 2013 21: 44 New
      -1
      Americans, such a feeling, spoil the opinion of the peoples of other countries about themselves. Watch their movies and think that they’re completely crazy or maniacs
    14. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 March 2013 22: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It seems to me that the author is too dramatic the impact of this consumer goods on the public and our country as a whole.

      water sharpens a stone
      if for a long time and persistently we say that we pigs live in shit, then there will come a time when we get on all fours and grunt.

      in addition to these films, there are vonidzy, Kovalev, borovy, Alekseev, Novodvorskie, but this together with these films together will do what cannot be done with cannons.
    15. Dilshat
      Dilshat 23 March 2013 01: 12 New
      0
      but it seems to me not too much. This INDEPENDENT power will never allow you to rent such films in your own country. This is a low SELF-ASSESSMENT of power and people. It’s the same as letting the robbers into your house and then giving them money on the track.
    16. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 23 March 2013 11: 58 New
      -1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It seems to me that the author is too dramatic

      No, the author modestly talks about it, recently I have the impression that there is no Russian culture and never has been, if a Russian cinema film releases a film, then this is a copy of the American in the story, if on television it is a copy of the American "House 2". Well, such a liberal government is nowhere to go.
      I don’t understand what the Minister of Calcium is doing, what kind of culture the Minister is in general. Furtseva in comparison with the current titans of the culture of his camp.
      In short, long live the primitive American popular culture.
    17. Dilshat
      Dilshat 23 March 2013 15: 00 New
      -1
      It’s forbidden to translate foreign films in the USA, you can only watch them with captions. Cheap and cheerful. Let us also pass such a law in the State Duma if we are not a colony. Or at least a quota for foreign films of up to 40%.
    18. psdf
      psdf 23 March 2013 16: 31 New
      0
      Rambo has been touted with prohibitive articles for so many years and so diligently that no one "gone with the wind" can still catch up.
      Perhaps, it is not worthwhile to pay so much attention to a third-rate action movie. Let them advertise it at their own expense.
      PS The film is about nothing. No artistic value, no tricks, no actors.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 23 March 2013 18: 38 New
        0
        The first Rambo was shot well and the idea of ​​the script is quite decent and relevant, not only for USA.
        It’s hard to come back from the war and see that while you were shedding blood, the country lived peacefully, grew fat, had fun and didn’t care about both you and your exploits.
        Rambo police rammers are not much different from the Soviet officials, who told the Afghans their legitimate demands - I did not send you there.
        There was a burning desire to release the guts to the creatures.
        It is gratifying to see Rambo gutting the rear rats.
    19. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 23 March 2013 21: 33 New
      0
      Berezovsky is dead!

      “Just called from London. Boris Abramovich Berezovsky committed suicide ... Was there a difficult person. Gesture of despair? Inability to live poor? A series of blows? I'm afraid no one will know the truth,” the lawyer Alexander Dobrovinsky responded to the news.
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 23 March 2013 21: 58 New
        -1
        Do not believe that you committed suicide.
        If you look, who benefits from it
        "... The source of Interfax noted that the official confirmation of information about the death of Berezovsky
        may to the termination of criminal cases against him with the wording "in connection with the death of a person,
        to be held accountable. "

        http://www.newsru.com/world/23mar2013/berezovsky.html
        "... in the event of termination of the criminal prosecution of a businessman, most likely,
        previously seized as part of the proceedings, the arrest of various property of a businessman... "
    20. densyaophyng
      densyaophyng 23 March 2013 23: 54 New
      +1

      china help russia people one
  2. Kaa
    Kaa 22 March 2013 10: 59 New
    13
    Well, what, logical conclusion. In the 80s, everyone in the cellars rushed to the “Rocky”, to Bruce Lee, to “Emmanuel” and “The Greek fig tree.” Now it’s easier than that - people and not so grab, will soon be removed about the Syrian army in Manhattan, led by the evil Assad. There is only one question - France, for example, is strenuously opposing the Americanization of its television and film distribution, we have the darkness of any Councils for culture, ethics and other things. What do they do, except for campaigns for salary?
  3. mankurt
    mankurt 22 March 2013 11: 03 New
    10
    And where is domestic cinema looking? Where are our alternative scenarios ?. The best military topics, at best about the Great Patriotic War. And Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Cuba? Amer in "The Hunt for Red October", in Goebelsian style, showed the feat of sailors and twisted the truth. They have propaganda and censorship, and no one in the States will show the Case in Square 34-80. Remove "Brother 3", show all the rot of America!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 22 March 2013 11: 15 New
      11
      We have modern filmmakers in an instant Handed Watch movies of recent years. This is a complete zvizdets. Such as the recent Chapaev - erotica, the White Tiger - fantasy, a separate conversation about Bastards, and At an unnamed height, these films seem to be funded by Russian crime, they say they also contributed to the Second World War. Although everyone knows this contribution. Robberies and murders. It's time to return censorship, but it will be like in a joke about Vovochka, where he tried the Bible, to reduce to the genitals.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 22 March 2013 13: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Sirocco
        Handed
        Nah, they know how to shoot, but not the hand, but the cephalopods, everything’s off the chump.
        Censorship has not yet been introduced; see how sellers laugh at whose children buy Kalda and Battlik, on which the +18 sign proudly flaunts.
        I remember everyone freaking out about our astronaut from Armageddon -
        just now on the Discovery in the “Infernal Road”, the sapper broke the manipulator on the MRI - what did he do? - he began to scratch the bulletproof glass with the remote control in the hope that it would work (maybe it is the same from ours?).
        Yes, we are offended - but remember all our films - where were the good and kind Americans?
        To the author - correct the title -Another govnofilm released in Russian hire - and everything will be fine, but it already painfully looks like those headings that hang on the right side of the screen.
  4. pinecone
    pinecone 22 March 2013 11: 04 New
    +6
    “we calmly release frankly anti-Russian and anti-Russian films”

    We do not release them, but THEY, the same non-humans who made their colony not only the Russian Federation, but also the USA .. Their task is to set us against each other. .
  5. leon-iv
    leon-iv 22 March 2013 11: 08 New
    +2
    Friends went neighing. Useful cranberries.
  6. domokl
    domokl 22 March 2013 11: 10 New
    15
    The correct article ... Almost completely to the point. Only Hollywood propaganda doesn’t work in Russia ... Just as it didn’t do 2 with Rimbaud at the time, it won’t do it now ...
    I often speak quite negatively about a certain part of our youth, but ... It’s our guys who got in the way of Georgians in 08, our guys are now conducting counter-terrorist operations ... Young people who watched these films through video recorders. in order to know the enemy you need to watch such films ... If they scare us, then we mean something on this Earth ... But officials really need to be punished ...
    We pay too little attention to ideology
  7. NAPOLEON
    NAPOLEON 22 March 2013 11: 15 New
    +7
    the movie is not worth the comment no . on the contrary, in the USSR it was sometimes necessary to show such films so that the people knew how they represented us to their democratic head.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 22 March 2013 11: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: NAPOLEON
      the movie is not worth the comment no . on the contrary, in the USSR it was sometimes necessary to show such films so that the people knew how they represented us to their democratic head.


      I agree to all 100%, but if you show this dregs, you must precede the display of this "masterpiece" entertaining, talentedly filmed with humor newsreel, for 10-15 minutes. In order to turn a dirty Gamerican libel into a comedy film, where the main "heroes", as if by magic, turn into cheap clowns, nedotyp, and other flawed.
      1. es.d
        es.d 22 March 2013 12: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Hudo
        I agree to all 100%, but if you show this dregs, you must precede the display of this "masterpiece" entertaining, talentedly filmed with humor newsreel, for 10-15 minutes. In order to turn a dirty Gamerican libel into a comedy film, where the main "heroes", as if by magic, turn into cheap clowns, nedotyp, and other flawed.

        I suggest showing such films with Ukrainian dubbing, so it's more fun lol
        The film really is below criticism. I left the cinema and forgot about what.
        Yes, and young people should not be underestimated, they are by no means stupid, more cynical than us - yes. But the pseudo-documentary films will be worse: ".. The greatest battle of the Second World War - the Battle of Omaha ...".
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 22 March 2013 12: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: es.d
          The film really is below criticism. I left the cinema and forgot about what.

          It doesn’t matter what language, it is extremely important that the viewer doesn’t go to the film, but rather to the newsreel preceding it, and rolls away laughing with laughter at the “brave and invincible Americans”. To mattresses in impotent rage abraded their false tusks in the stingers wandered by Hollywood smiles.
          Threat. Voice-overs can be offered to famous comedians. e.g. Zadornov or Koklyushkin.
  8. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 22 March 2013 11: 17 New
    11
    I was also always surprised and outraged by the fact that outright anti-Russian opuses appear on our television and movie screens. Moreover, at the box office they go without any censorship ...
    And it is perceived quite calmly. Type, as it should be ...
    Who is responsible for this? .. And why do not our legislative and executive power comrades react at all to such a situation in the field of film production rental? .. Or they don’t care (in other words, “nevermind”!)? ..

    And a little off topic ... Not so long ago I was revising one of my childhood films - "Interception" (starring A. Rostotsky, V. Menshov; director - M. Tumanishvili). According to the action of the film, the midshipman from the border guard watch makes an American saboteur, disrupting his mission ... And in the corner of the screen there’s a quick little chip indicating the age limit for viewing "+16" ... Gentlemen, however, invented it!
    It turns out that the current generation can watch films with a pronounced patriotic orientation (where the faces are addressed to Americans and other not too friendly guises) from 16. At best, from 14 ... And what about this? .. And before that - "Sponge Bob "," Pokemon "and other intellectual garbage ... And then, we are still surprised that young people are massively mowing from military service ...
  9. evgenii67
    evgenii67 22 March 2013 11: 20 New
    +3
    Yes, really a question: "Russia seems to have truly become a US colony" Someone will say: it’s just business, but it’s clear that the film is nonsense and there will not be much box office. The question is why they give rental in Russia (????), because if the profit is minimal, and the humiliation of nat. dignity (some Russian paratroopers are schoolchildren) on the face. The question is, who needs this ?? You can certainly not pay attention to such antics and pretend that nothing is happening (American directors are like children with their own fantasies, they only have a camera and money to film their children's delirium movie) Thanks to the author ++++
  10. Clueless
    Clueless 22 March 2013 11: 25 New
    +7
    What kind of nonsense? Since when should we ban this? On the contrary, this must be allowed, because the film is ..but you wonder ;)

    I would very much like for the Americans to behave this way when we conquer them, because in real life such tricks would end on the first day. And the end of the film is generally just atas - a bunch of pimpled teenagers bullet out of jeeps at speed and smash the poor Koreans to pieces.

    Russian notice there are shown by professionals, though very literate. And the Russians there captured the entire east coast;)

    No censorship is necessary, for the introduction of censorship will further spur young people to watch these films. You have to shoot your own, and does not apply to their patriotic films with such a “minted zeal” as the author of the material.

    Imagine an ordinary American, he sees in films that they are pulling everyone, even aliens (Battle for Los Angeles), and then they can not withstand their onslaught. Then he enters the army, sees his co-worker smashing his head off with a sniper bullet, then another - and that’s all ... a template disruption, a moral trauma, for how savage are they being pulled by SUCH tough people in Afghanistan. This, by the way, explains such a high percentage of psychos in their army.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 22 March 2013 12: 13 New
      +2
      Zluchny "No censorship is needed, for the introduction of censorship will further encourage young people to watch these films. We must shoot our own and does not apply to their patriotic films with such" coined zeal "as the author of the material."
      Yes, it’s stupid to ban, they will find a way to watch it anyway. Let them look and see what kind of Russian people they represent in America.
      1. Iraclius
        Iraclius 22 March 2013 12: 43 New
        +1
        Nagaibak, again, I agree - the forbidden fruit is sweet. Let them look and understand with our help that this is a stupid, mediocre, funny craft, to watch which is disrespect for oneself as a spectator and wasted time and money. negative
  11. droiddiman10
    droiddiman10 22 March 2013 11: 26 New
    +2
    This article would be relevant 30 years ago. Now there is such a thing as the Internet and everything that is forbidden to be shown in the cinema can be safely viewed on the network (the same “5 days of August”).
  12. Dimych from Vanino
    Dimych from Vanino 22 March 2013 11: 29 New
    +5
    The avatar ... in their opinion is very politically incorrect ...... because it shows the essence and rot of a pseudo supernation. You can’t put a scarf on every mouth ... they also have honest and brave people.
  13. Dangerous
    Dangerous 22 March 2013 11: 29 New
    +4
    He put the article "-", since there is nothing to make an elephant out of a fly and throw itself "Russia Colony of the USA" into enemies. What relation do these mumbled North Koreans have to Russia at all I cannot understand. I went to the film, the film is complete bullshit. And the fact that we have a crisis in Russia with interesting stories and high-quality films is well known to everyone, continuous belly comedies and "cops in law"
  14. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 22 March 2013 11: 30 New
    +4
    Kind! Firstly, I haven’t even heard of such a film, and I sneeze deeply at the opinion of some director expressed in the film. I do not consider Russia a colony of the USA, otherwise let us turn to the definition of Colony and colonist. I don’t know, brothers, how on whom, but on the contrary, the article made an excellent anti-advertising film for me, now I won’t even look. American cinema generally has an amazing property of releasing ANTI-anyone films, even anti-ones, but they themselves do not understand about it. And for the fact that they released it, it’s bad, but .... don’t look! One of them also released a film about the prophet and what it led to, they are silly, well, they can’t spread their mouths in the modern Russian Federation in any other way, it remains to bite with films.
    1. explorer
      explorer 22 March 2013 11: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Dwarfik
      And for the fact that they released it, it’s bad, but .... don’t look! One of them also released a film about the prophet and what it led to, they are silly.

      Yeah, stupid, that release this film - 20 cents stands, behind it is the work of the propaganda machine that once already collapsed knows who and when.
      Therefore, we need active counter-propaganda and not toothless kind, such as "well, they are people too", and hard - to answer one of their films, respond in three, revealing their essence to G. ...
    2. bddrus
      bddrus 22 March 2013 12: 08 New
      -1
      Bad advertising is also advertising, so the author works in the pocket of the film’s producer
  15. Check
    Check 22 March 2013 11: 41 New
    +6
    I think you should not strain much, I was born in 1985, was born in Yakutia. hit just the peak of foreign films being a small box absorbing everything like a sponge. these films did not lay in me some kind of foreign ideology of life and worldview. develop that there are only some quotes like ile bi backing from the terminator. in the film, Rocky was rooting for the "Russian" Dolph Lungrent. but after seeing Rambo, he made out for himself that Rambo is a maniac whose roof went off after Vietnam. something like this. maybe because, in parallel with foreign films, our films were often shown, which did not allow foreign ideals to get into my naive little head. I think the big danger comes from video games where you are already taking part in the war against all kinds of Ivanov and so on. but by the way, since I periodically stick to games in front of my computer, I observe that in games where the US is opposed by the Russian Federation (USSR) or NATO against Russia (USSR), then most people online play for our side.
  16. timhelmet
    timhelmet 22 March 2013 11: 42 New
    +1
    And Jackie Chan in his last film adaptation of "Armor of God3" or whatever ...
    At the beginning of the film, he deftly deceives almost a whole company of special forces (speckled berets), and those like “jackpots” neither get into him from the AK, nor catch up, nor blow up, nor figure out how much they can. Miracles, comrades.
    I also remember a fragment of one film (the name is forgotten) - there are two imperfections of the West from the Moldovan paratroopers fleeing, and (ATTENTION!) Each other is lucky on a summer cottage. Well, of course, the landing is lame in the Republic of Moldova, what can I say, they did not catch up.

    But most of all pleased Okhlobystin with his "Nightingale the Robber." Then finally atas. From Okhlobystin, from his own PR, the mind went beyond reason.
    Remember, the last “mess”, where against five armed with knives, axes and a sledgehammer, a man set (ATTENTION!) A company of infantry of internal troops armed with shovels, bayonets (you can’t shoot according to the scenario, around is gasoline). Togarishch Okhlobystin easily and naturally scattered over a hundred soldiers with two knives. Each soldier had a cataract in both eyes at that moment.
    Hmm, guys, not impressive ...
  17. elmi
    elmi 22 March 2013 11: 44 New
    +4
    Useful article. I have long been indignant at how we Russians allow us to show Hollywood films with an anti-Russian bias. In these films, we are humiliated, shown stupid and other nasty things, and we still pay money for this, bringing profit to Hollywood. Wake up people! stop voting with your ruble for anti-Russian films, let western distributors feel that we have pride
  18. Volkhov
    Volkhov 22 March 2013 11: 52 New
    +3
    Yes, the Russian colony of the USA has been around since 1918, Trotsky’s group has come for this, and the Rothschilds are the red flag, but the film has nothing to do with it, it is defensive in nature and fosters patriotism among American teenagers. America is really afraid of the capture of the Reich because of its technical backlog, and it is desirable for them that the evacuation of the elite was covered by naive provincial patriots. We have about the same thing - the capital of the Zionist elite is protected by Russian contract soldiers, who are only appreciated when they are secret.
    1. Kostya pedestrian
      Kostya pedestrian 23 March 2013 19: 08 New
      -2
      Thank you for the perspective on history, but I didn’t know that Nevsky, Dolgoruky, Donskoy and Pozharsky with Minin were Rothschild agents, and they fought under their banners, and not as I previously thought, inherited from us as Vladimir Red Sun as the succession of the Byzantine Empire.
      .
      You still say that only Nikolaiich was a Russian patriot, and you could not, like a Russian patriot, refuse his cousins ​​- princes of the Great Roman Empire to the Emperor of Austria, having lost the gaps of Port Arthur, to donate Russian troops for the western showdowns. He also set a good example of "keeping Russian money in British banks."

      But Trotsky as a comrade-in-arms of Lenin, by the way, as a primordially Russian person, arouses great respect both as a person and as a person, who restored Russianness to Russians. Not to mention his talent as a manager and tactician.

      And here you are watching the tricolor of Mr. Churchill, who never shielded Russians for people, not to mention the fact that for these angelic creatures we are an underdeveloped race of slaves who do not know where the wind even blows from.
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 23 March 2013 19: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Kostya pedestrian
        "... Trotsky, as a comrade-in-arms of Lenin, by the way, arouses great respect as a native Russian man
        both as a person and as a person who returned Russianness to Russians. Not to mention his talent as a manager and tactics ... "


        Still, Trotsky was more a politician than a tactician and manager.
        But Lenin was more a theorist than a practitioner, and whether he was an associate of Trotsky - that is another question.
        1. Kostya pedestrian
          Kostya pedestrian April 3 2013 17: 03 New
          0
          And how do you comment that the Bolsheviks, headed by V.I. Lenin and L.D. Trotsky - the People's Commissar of the Red Army and the commander, repelled the attack, prakichically surrounded, and defeated the forces that prevail among the Bolsheviks in numbers and professional training?

          I agree with your conclusion, and I will add that neither one nor the other were marginists, i.e. they did not fully depend on about. opinions, and created a unique channel for the new thinking of the Russian peoples.

          Here you can discuss nationalities, thinking, luck, in the end, but the fact remains - an incredible victory (the liberation of the Russian Federation) over the predominant number of troops with a centuries-old ideology, and this speaks of the genius of those personalities, and their character as something genius .

          PieS: it also casts doubt on those authors who claim that they fought for white with a bang and ran away from the red into bandits.
  19. rus9875
    rus9875 22 March 2013 11: 58 New
    10
    The trouble is not that we are showing moronic American films. The trouble is that our native TV blindly copies all the worst that was invented in the West - moronic talk shows, moronic humor, no less moronic entertainment programs. And what is the intellectual level of most TV presenters? What do they say? Correctly declining a large number is an impossible task. It seems that there is a conscious debilitation of the population. A dull herd is easier to manage.
    1. Kostya pedestrian
      Kostya pedestrian 23 March 2013 19: 19 New
      0
      Nobody seeks to control you, it’s just replacing your values ​​with strangers, so that you are thrown out of circulation in general. and forever

      As IW Stalin, who is very much appreciated by the Japs, said, "There is no man, no problem."

      1. sleepy
        sleepy 23 March 2013 19: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Kostya pedestrian
        "... In the words of IV Stalin, who is very much appreciated by the Japs," There is no man, no problem. "


        I. Stalin said something else - "Cadres decide everything."
        And I. Stalin, the Japanese do not really appreciate that, but the Chinese respect it very much.
        After Khrushchev's report on the "Stalin personality cult", friction began between the USSR and China.
  20. Brummbar
    Brummbar 22 March 2013 11: 59 New
    10
    Yes it is r .... no one passed and did not notice. And our filmmakers need to make a fantastic movie where in the finals our special forces storm the White House in Washington, and a similar game is necessary for teenagers, and I would play it myself.
    1. I think so
      I think so 22 March 2013 13: 06 New
      +3
      Yes, all these pictures are scrolled in the United States through non-governmental organizations organized there by Russian people ... And for showing such films (they should not be prohibited) you just need to quietly and quietly kill (a disease, an autocactastrophe, suicide) people who decided to "give a ride" to such a film. ... just like the Israelis do ... you need to learn good experience ...
    2. Kostya pedestrian
      Kostya pedestrian 23 March 2013 19: 23 New
      0
      And I would have shot how Churchill nevertheless persuaded the patton to cross the demarcation line in 1945, after Roosevelt’s unexpected death, and give them to the Soviet troops in defeated Germany. It would be great not to guess, but to know who the U.S. soldiers or Soviets would win.
  21. bddrus
    bddrus 22 March 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    The author himself decided to make an advertisement for a film that would go unnoticed. I defined a certain “formula” for myself: a person who I don’t give a damn about can’t offend me. Let them amuse themselves - apparently the amers now needed to maintain a patriotic spirit with such a moronic film. Recently I even wanted to see what kind of film it was in '84, such as the actors famous Charlie Sheen, Patrick Swayze - but such a dregs, could not watch, if in childhood they laughed at Rambo, then now his Afghan adventures are generally impossible to perceive
  22. krokodil25
    krokodil25 22 March 2013 12: 08 New
    +1
    It’s necessary not to prohibit, but to make your own films not only about two about Chechnya, Afghanistan, but about everything that can and should be shot !!! By the way, if even an inexpensive Russian comedy appears at the box office, it immediately blocks Ov blockbusters. negative
  23. Stiletto
    Stiletto 22 March 2013 12: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Brummbar
    and a similar game is necessary for teenagers, but I myself would play


    I agree completely, my plus to you. And one, only one small clarification: it would be better not a game, but a simulator.
  24. albert
    albert 22 March 2013 12: 18 New
    +2
    It would be reasonable for us to start making such films with a normal historical plot. For example, to show the American bombing of Korea and Vietnam by napalm, and then how our pilots smash the American executioners in the air. To make films about how our special forces smashed their drug-traffickers during the entire Cold War South America, how our fleet cleared the Suez Canal and opposed the American one, are there really few such stories? Only I doubt that at least one of our directors and producers, given the way they worship Hollywood, decides sya remove something like that, and suddenly in America no longer be allowed?
  25. Skavron
    Skavron 22 March 2013 12: 33 New
    0
    Yes, Tom Clancy is a noble science fiction writer, with a humorous bias. Always amused me with its limitations)

    Here's why not shoot epic films on topics:
    Russian fight with the Mongols
    Russian conquest of Siberia
    Peter's times, fleet
    Catherine, Orlov, Potemkin, Chesma ... a lot of things can be continued. And then the "Bastards" and other modern moore is really not what you need
    After all, they shot it before?
    To make these films spectacular so that modern youth would be interested, and even if there is an action, but with the right subtext, then the benefit of such a movie will be undoubted
  26. krokodil25
    krokodil25 22 March 2013 12: 36 New
    0
    It’s necessary not to prohibit, but to make your own films not only about two about Chechnya, Afghanistan, but about everything that can and should be shot !!! By the way, if even an inexpensive Russian comedy appears at the box office, it immediately blocks Ov blockbusters. negative
  27. Lopatov
    Lopatov 22 March 2013 12: 45 New
    0
    Americans cannot live without an enemy. Therefore, such films appear
    1. Black
      Black 22 March 2013 13: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Spade
      Americans cannot live without an enemy.

      not in this business. The Americans are focused on patriotic work. Notice - they do not have a single film in which they would not be glorified
      lifestyle
      - "values" of striped
      - american power
      - patriotism country
      Artistic value is zero, but hammering at one point, our country is the best, our people are the kindest and fairest, and around - cattle and scum.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 March 2013 13: 28 New
        +1
        Dear, this is not patriotism.
        1. bask
          bask 22 March 2013 17: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Dear, this is not patriotism.

          And, what is this. Business, just business.?
          And why did they, then the CINEMA STORY ,, Rimbaud No. 1 ,, was removed - precisely in order to explain and powder our brains to the Americans. That the Vietnam War was not lost, and so the bad politicians decided. And the soldiers - animals ,, all would be torn.
          This is their perverse, but Amerian ,, patriotism ,,,
  28. denkastro
    denkastro 22 March 2013 12: 47 New
    0
    If the author hadn’t written about this film, I wouldn’t have heard about it. Maybe it’s a hidden advertisement (albeit involuntary)? I personally decide for myself what to watch. against family and statehood. Well, they themselves should raise their children first of all, and not with moral instruction, but with their own examples. Respectfully.
  29. Black
    Black 22 March 2013 12: 52 New
    0
    Those who do not see in such films and projects pushed onto our screens are not right. "cranberries are good," no one noticed, "and so on. First, I think people with an established worldview, views, position on the site. And for us it’s nothing, most of them won’t do such a thing. But the children go .. .a chicken - pecking a grain, moreover, everyone who allowed to open his mouth and defame our country is on his DY list, he cannot earn money from us.

    Yesterday Mikhalkov was re-elected to the cinema chiefs again. So they won’t change anything. As before, profitability is more important.
  30. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 22 March 2013 12: 52 New
    0
    I frankly neighing watching this movie. the USA has no future, even if the North. Korea can conquer them.
    On the contrary, it’s necessary to welcome the creation of such films: after all, the United States is afraid of us to the point of “fading” in all the films they expose Russians as evil, albeit wild, but strong people. Everything was, the population of the United States crap one's pants if it comes to war. Google correspondence on one of the US forums when Russia fought with Georgia (Georgia).
  31. Avenger711
    Avenger711 22 March 2013 13: 07 New
    0
    In the Russian Federation, there seems to be no censorship, the dealer is free to purchase what he wants. And before you run into Hollywood crafts, for a start, you need to not only remove your Migalkovs from the cinema, but also specifically imprison them for Ani-Russian propaganda.
  32. Cpa
    Cpa 22 March 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    I haven’t seen the film, but judging by the comments, cranberries are still the same. From my point of view, the most dangerous films of the Transformer genre, because they beautifully advertise the potential of the American army and enthusiastic Russian children, enthusiastically believe, starting to despise the capabilities of their country. am
    The way out is to shoot their sequels of high-quality films in the manner of Sherlock Holmes or already about our heroics. And to open the cranberries against Goblin. After it, it’s not possible to take movies seriously laughing
    The worst is the case with television channels, there is a completely different will and in this field only parents can influence.
  33. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 22 March 2013 13: 56 New
    +1
    I’m bastard from the South Park cartoon, and our bureaucrats want to ban it from time to time. belay I fundamentally disagree! fool But it’s worth filming a cartoon on a Russian theme, enough stories for 10 seasons a year are enough! And our cartoon will certainly be in some book of records, as the longest-playing drinks
  34. click80
    click80 22 March 2013 14: 01 New
    +8
    a little offtopic. on the Internet, this picture is called as "the winner of the competition of children's patriotic drawing." I don’t know what kind of competition it is and where and when it took place, and whether it took place at all, but I definitely like the picture wink
  35. zol1
    zol1 22 March 2013 14: 18 New
    -4
    Russia has long been sold both wholesale and retail, but we do not know this yet!
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 22 March 2013 16: 38 New
      +1
      Russia has long been sold both wholesale and retail, but we do not know this yet!
      When you find out - write. Now what are you talking about?
    2. NAPOLEON
      NAPOLEON 22 March 2013 22: 33 New
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      too big. winked
  36. Hort
    Hort 22 March 2013 14: 29 New
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    Well, the Nazi chronicles have at least historical interest. There are the same "German tanks" dock. movie or about the luftwaffe.
    And this consumer goods maximum to show on TV-3 at night)) Or even prohibit the purchase of such a crap.
    And by the way, the Red Dawn of 1984 was at least fun to watch - neighing over a wretched attempt to portray Russians and a wild accent.
  37. aybulat
    aybulat 22 March 2013 14: 47 New
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    And to pay for such a canoe?
    Kill the American movie industry with total piracy.
    Maybe it’s not for nothing that piracy on the Internet in Russia interests anyone very much.
  38. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 March 2013 15: 07 New
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    Yes, the film is very provocative. I was surprised that there were no Iranian paratroopers. And if it really was played through all the channels, you need to point and punish. It is time to strangle freedom of expression a little and direct it into the channel useful to the state. But so far no one has been engaged in an ideology like "Russians are the most fucked up on planet Earth." Fortunately, there is something to illustrate.
  39. homosum20
    homosum20 22 March 2013 15: 16 New
    +1
    Yes, very relevant.
    And of course, the fact that cultural figures, athletes (chess is also considered a sport), deputies of the State Duma of Russia, at last directly in the Senate of America, propose and welcome laws against their country, that the owners of the enterprises pass on to the owners of America our national wealth (Deribas, Rusal, Rothschild) (it got to the point that I typed in Deripaska on Google, and “Deripaska Rothschild” popped up in my search formulas) - and all this is not direct evidence of the country's colonization. Of course, the main evidence is an anti-Russian film on our screens. (We didn’t see enough of them before.) This is of course more important than the fact that the central bank of Russia has no direct relation to Russia. What else needs to happen so that people in this country understand that they have sold and are selling them?
    You know, under socialism there was such an anecdote: someone argued there from the powers that be (it was a long time ago, I don’t remember the little things) that you can do whatever you want with the workers in our country, they can bear it. Gathered factory assembly. the first comes out and says: Tomorrow you are all fired.
    Workers shrug their shoulders dumbly - well, what to do. The main thing is that there is no war.
    The second one comes out - air tax will be introduced from tomorrow. To breathe, you have to pay. Hard workers shrug their shoulders - what to do.
    It turns out the third, he says - workers, tomorrow do not forget to bring the ropes. We will hang you.
    1 arm rises. Who argued that not everyone would pass by, happily asks - well, comrade, you want to say something.
    Yes, ”the worker says,“ bring soap with you or the union will give it away. ”
    You can begin to minus, but answer me one question:
    I am not calling for anything. We go to where we are going. (There are many good things - but, most likely, not for us). BUT WHY DO NOT YOU WANT TO OPEN EYES AND SERIOUSLY DISCUSSES THIS FIGHT ABOUT MOVIES ON THE BACKGROUND OF THE DIRECT COURT OF THE COUNTRY?
    Notice, I did not say a word about GDP. And what can he alone do with this? when no one opens his eyes.
    1. sleepy
      sleepy 23 March 2013 01: 44 New
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      Quote: homosum20
      "... What else is about to happen ...
      ... well, what to do. The main thing is that there is no war. "


      Previously, this opinion was - "anything, if only there was no war."
      But with the change of generations, something may change.
      If only there was no war ... otherwise the next generation may not exist.
  40. VadimSt
    VadimSt 22 March 2013 15: 20 New
    +1
    In order not to watch other people's bad films, you need to make your own good ones!
    And who will respond to outright "informational crap" - remember "Five days in May"? And how many series of frank delirium, designed for nerds and idiots, are broadcast on TV?
    And then we are surprised - and where do we get such youth from, why is it permissible in our media to cheat our country, why deputy Gudkov is not prosecuted .....................
    1. sleepy
      sleepy 23 March 2013 01: 59 New
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      In addition to films like "Five Days in May", remakes of Soviet films are made.
      "The Irony of Fate. Continued", "Gentlemen, Good Luck", "Carnival Night 2", all kinds of musketeers ... On the approach of "Operation Y-2" ...
      They find money for these remakes; can someone remake all Soviet films on remakes in someone’s plans?
    2. Stalinets
      Stalinets 23 March 2013 02: 08 New
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      That's right! Missiles, alright. Patriotic education is better! yes
  41. Viacheslav
    Viacheslav 22 March 2013 15: 22 New
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    We focus on box office, rather than a sense of national dignity.


    Hahaha, this shit didn’t even pay off - our distributors suffered losses, and in the USA - the creators.
  42. zao74
    zao74 22 March 2013 15: 26 New
    +1
    Amer and their worthless films greatly brainwash young people, but you look at our House 2, you have to take such disgusting root, worse than Amerovsky ..ovna!
  43. Region65
    Region65 22 March 2013 15: 42 New
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    Lord!))) Author, forget it))))) well, it’s a direct colony))))) and you saw the militants that the SHants shot in the 80s-90s ????? so there, in general, in every movie the Russians were bad, red, evil and always drunk :))))) now it’s in fashion to shit on Russia, defeat it in films and video games (like Kal of Duty, etc.))) well, let it The West amuses itself :))) Well, they can’t defeat us, so at least let them dream, but in their computer toys)))) it’s all too funny and funny and it’s not worth it to inflate this storm))
  44. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 22 March 2013 16: 20 New
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    But it’s interesting which ministry is responsible for such a film throw. What is sitting in the chair of the permit system, allowed frolic frankly-evil movie makers? Where is our court? Where the fuck deputies are sitting in the Duma? And where is PRESIDENT?
  45. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 22 March 2013 16: 40 New
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    In China, all the distributors would be shot and the case closed !!!
  46. washi
    washi 22 March 2013 16: 42 New
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    Unfortunately, we still have little knowledge of our undeclared wars. But for them people received orders and medals.
    We killed a patriotic movie. Even if you remove the ideology, then you can shoot a movie about PEOPLE. About those who performed their duties in Soviet times, outside the country. (In Soviet times there was one film, and even then about civilians, the "crew"). About those who did this on the territory of the USSR and already former republics. And do not suffer from political correctness. We are already to blame for all the troubles. So it will not be worse.
  47. Clueless
    Clueless 22 March 2013 16: 51 New
    -1
    I do not like it when adults begin to write about censorship, about to shoot ... - Are you out of your mind people? If you want to live in North Korea, then go live there, but you don’t need to make such a country from Russia

    Why shoot? For the fact that they show us badly in the movies? For the fact that they are afraid of us to shit and scare us their people?

    What is wrong, in that a young and not strong mind will see the Red heyday? And what's wrong with him?

    And most importantly - maybe it will benefit him, because in the film they show how the citizens of their country protect the country from the aggressor, and do not care that the aggressor is Koreans and Russians. The young Kinder will understand that his country must always be protected, even when a complete ass is happening. Moreover, if the author was not like this (cut out by censorship), he could have noticed that there about the 5th column was from the Americans themselvesthat RARE in their films, they somehow do not like to show traitors.

    Not that we are the majority with you from the 80-90s, when ALL films from the USA that were about us showed us bad, etc. Something I didn’t notice that we are eager to change our flag to American;) When I watched Rimbaud’s film, I was very pleased with the evil Russians, because it’s nice to realize that they’re afraid of your country.
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... 22 March 2013 17: 34 New
      +1
      You have brains on one side. And if, it’s not clear, then they are completely absent.
    2. Stalinets
      Stalinets 23 March 2013 02: 06 New
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      Unfortunately, no one is afraid of us ..... request
  48. Zic
    Zic 22 March 2013 17: 05 New
    -2
    Yes to all FSUs. Our government has long licked their shoes for something surprising then?
  49. Komodo
    Komodo 22 March 2013 17: 18 New
    +5
    Well, you give a pancake ... This is the name of the article ...
    Russia seems to have become a colony of the United States

    Fu carried laughing . It is necessary to slightly measure the title with the content !!
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 22 March 2013 19: 48 New
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      Right But what about the films: They, I think over the past hundred years, all the artistic creation, continuous propaganda, whether or not they realized is not important. Lies, as a legitimate element of business, also brings dividends. If you tell a person for a very long time that he is strong and smart, then sooner or later he will believe it, but will he really become that, is that a question? They live according to the principle "They themselves invented, they themselves believed." Here they showed the whole world a fantasy tale about OpaloX-11 ..., Only any lies, then it costs dearly ... In general, M. Zadornov was a thousand times right ... and this "masterpiece" as an indicator that everything is in order, not which hasn’t changed and we don’t really need to bathe.
      Z.Y. What is the strength in, brother? Power is in the truth...
  50. ups
    ups 22 March 2013 18: 11 New
    +2
    If we talk about this, then we are free, in the colony such conversations are not possible)