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Putin’s Socialism - Glazyev vs Medvedev - Kudrin liberalism

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The fall of macroeconomic indicators in January-February of the 2013 year in Russia is not just an alarming sign, but a long-awaited phenomenon that many economists have warned about in the past, 2012 year. The well-being of the Russian economy is entirely dependent on the European consumers of our energy resources, raw materials and products of the processing industries. But demand in Europe and the United States is steadily declining, and with it, industrial production, trade and freight transport are declining, as the freight has been falling for the last two years unequivocally. At the end of last year, the EU countries were forced to recognize the onset of a recession in the economy, and today voices are being heard about deflation, which will finally destroy the European economy. The reduction in money supply leads to the closure of small and medium-sized enterprises, to an even greater drop in demand. Europe today is experiencing a situation in Russia in the middle of the 90s of the last century, when enterprises were forced to switch to barter and pay their wages with products, as the economy was sorely lacking in money.


A way out of this crisis was proposed by the Primakov-Maslyukov group, but he categorically did not suit the American side, which was striving to completely ruin the Russian enterprises, which even the August-planned default of 1998 did not go ahead. But only the rise in oil prices and the change in the Kremlin’s policy with the advent of Vladimir Putin, the decrease in dependence on external control, made it possible to preserve small fragments of former greatness. Who collapses the European economy, actively curtailing its industrial production, who, through falling European demand, is trying to destroy the recent Dolce Vita in major Russian cities, just ten years ago, completely different from European cities? There are objective processes that make the current crisis irreversible, but there are also subjective processes that are trying to make economic problems political. Behind all these actions, of course, are the financial authorities, which have long ago become a closed elite club.

On the one hand, nothing can be done with the demand crisis until the fall in demand and living standards stabilizes at a certain level, from which it will be possible to begin a slow rise. On the other hand, politics is always a reflection of the economy, and today the old political formation is breaking down and a new time arises for the formation of completely different political, economic and social relations. However, all occurring tectonic shifts easily fit into Stephen Mann's chaos theory, where it is much easier to control a system that is in chaos, since any system (state, society, person) is self-organizing, that is, a period of chaos is surely replaced by a period of sustainability and peaceful development. The current period of the capitalist development of the world has entered a period of chaos in the imbalance of the entire economic system and, as a result, of political relations. But after reaching a certain level, chaos will be replaced by stability, countries (societies) will stabilize themselves and the question arises: what kind of system will it be, what economic - political relations will come in the changed world?

Not only the Western elites are concerned about this issue, but these disturbing thoughts do not allow the Kremlin’s Russian inhabitants to sleep well. The entire 2012 year passed under the auspices of the “marsh revolution”, which died safely on the eve of 2013, and failed to gain weight among the Russian people. Why? Relative calm and well-being makes the revolutionary struggle a funny circus of the marginals. Moreover, the “swamp revolutionaries” did not carry within themselves a political idea capable of putting millions under their banners. The march of millions of 1991 of the year was an event, a breath of clean air in the stench of the rotten policy of the Central Committee of the CPSU, unable to give the people what they wanted. And the leaders of the future Gorbachev revolution of August 1991 of the year gave what the people wanted - life without the CPSU Central Committee, without eternal “we approve of the policies of the party and government”. They gave pluralism of opinions, freedom of trade and movement, but they took away the state and all the national wealth. But who thought about this when the spring winds of the revolution pleasantly stupefy the head with wine of “freedom, equality and fraternity”!

What needs to be given today, what idea will bring millions of Russian people under the new banner who want to breathe in the intoxicating vernal air of the revolution again? The national revival of Russia and an independent economy, the absence of external pressure and social justice. That is, social democracy and sovereignty of Russia. It was these banners, when no one was waiting, put up in the windows of the Kremlin, it was under these banners that V.Putin went to the third presidential term, completely demoralizing the “swamp revolutionaries”. Starting from the case of A. Serdyukov and the fight against corruption, the national liberation movement will inevitably come to the nationalization of the Central Bank and the bowels of our state, and repression, according to economist M. Khazin, once started, will no longer be able to stop, because one criminal case is inevitable creates another, because all the officials are bound by circular bail. But the economy, inseparable from repressions against corrupt officials, always and everywhere sets the main sound, under which the entire chorus of the "oprichniki" who joined the fight against the American heritage in Russia adapts. And a key figure, V. Putin’s tuning fork in the economic sphere, S.Yu. Glazyev, Doctor of Economics, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, January 29, 2013, prepared a report to the President “On goals, problems and measures of state development and integration policy”, in which it proposes to carry out the following steps:

  • According to calculations, GDP growth should be 8% per year.
  • Overcoming the failures of the liberal policy and cancellation: electricity reform, which led to a constant increase in the cost of electricity, forestry reform, resulting in huge forest tracts in 2010 - 2011, land reform, when there was an increase in prices for urban real estate and the landlessness of peasants, liberalization currency regulation, which led to the export of capital abroad, following the interests of exporters of raw materials - offshore economy and the transition to a foreign technological base.
  • Cancellation of the emission of the ruble to the inflow of foreign currency, as this led to the lack of sources of financing domestic economic development, overvaluation of interest rates on loans and losses on exchange differences about 100 billion dollars a year.
  • The accumulation fund is a means of exporting capital out of the country; therefore, it is necessary to use these funds for import substitution.
  • Strategic planning: the formation of large corporations, the stimulation of demand for domestic equipment, support for the bearing branches of the new technological order.
  • Tax - budget policy: reduction of tax burden, abolition of VAT with its replacement with sales tax, taxation of export of capital, mineral extraction tax, progressive income tax scale, R & D costs are included in the cost of production, all oil and gas revenues remain in the country
  • Sovereign monetary policy: issuing money determines domestic demand for money, the refinancing rate does not exceed profits in the manufacturing industry (4 - 6%), the use of the practice of long loans (3 - 7 years), the cessation of foreign securities to secure loans, limiting double leverage, the organization of exchange trade in raw materials in rubles in the amount of 50% of all products, Russian enterprises are not allowed to invest in foreign securities, the purchase of strategic redpriyaty foreign capital.

    All of these points indicate a steady desire to create a sovereign economic system with a social democratic face, the nationalization of strategic industries and the gradual abandonment of imported products (import substitution). Rather strong and well thought-out program of the Putin-Glazyev tandem, aimed at the benefit of Russia, some of the points of which were the color of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation for many years. But this program kills on the spot all American liberalism in Russia, makes insignificant everything that they have produced in the last 20 years, and their criminals themselves. What kind of howling in the liberal camp of agents of foreign influence in our country, which only epithets did not receive the competent and talented economist S.Yu. Glazyev! In an interview with the Free Press 2 in March 2013 of the year S.Kara - Murza, chief researcher at ISPI RAS, said:

    Abstracts of the group of Sergei Glazyev are built as if Putin began a deep reform of the entire economy. But is that so? And then experts give advice on how to correct economic policy, as if the government does not understand what to do. And this is strange. There are no forces behind Glazyev, no social bases that would force the government to listen to its recommendations. And to whom he refers in society? Unclear. In addition to Putin, he does not address his theses as if to anyone. It turns out just a manifesto that will stir up the intellectual environment, which will be read by young people, students. This manifesto touches upon the main contradiction of our society, which objectively exists between the so-called new owners, who obtained their wealth through previous privatizations of factories and other assets, and between the majority of the population. The situation can only be changed by giving political will to the population, because people themselves cannot organize.

    So who is against changing the situation of the opposition of the Cabinet of Ministers, Dmitry A. Medvedev and his pro-American oligarchs, and President Vladimir Putin, who is trying to overcome the influence of the United States on the new vector of Russia's development - sovereign? The economic situation in the program of S.Yu. Glazyev must be supported by appropriate political decisions and supported by the people against whom not a single “fifth column” of American influence can stand. To do this, you need to create your own political party, aimed at revolutionary changes in Russia, that is, the All-Russian Popular Front, and give it weight in the eyes of the people of our country. How to do it? Tell the truth, explain all the lies of liberal government in our country, boldly show agents of American influence in state structures, business, the media, and carry out reprisals against corrupt officials. Then the credibility of the Russian people will be limitless, and with its help you can solve any problem, even to overcome the colonization of the United States by Russia.

    One of the main apologists of liberalism in Russia, former Finance Minister A. Kudrin, in an interview with the Kurs program 7 in March 2013, said:

    Now, for example, in Russia we often say, let's weaken the monetary policy, we will give more money, we will give money at low rates. Now expanding money, and even in the face of the danger of rising inflation and growth rates around 3-3,5%, is wrong. That is why we should not today neither gold reserves be thrown into the market for sale, nor the ruble mass be increased. We have stimulated demand, above all, the population. But at the moment the demand of the population has rested on the possibility of wages and the high cost of debt on loans to individuals. We have exhausted serious opportunities for the growth of household loans. That is why we cannot break the budget rule today, we should not weaken it. I know the opinion of investors who believe that this rule should be in this form.
    More than a remarkable admission: “I know the opinions of investors who believe that ...” Great! Some investors, most likely members of the Tripartite Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations, created by the Rothschilds-Rockefellers, do not recommend that the Russian authorities themselves determine the amount of money needed in the economy. With a decrease in GDP growth, which is natural in the context of falling demand and deflation (stable prices for raw materials), the amount of money external management of Russia will also decrease, forcing the last of the remaining remaining strategic enterprises of our country to close. Or it is better to privatize what Prime Minister Dmitry A.Medvedev does, directing the proceeds not even to the budget, but to the purchase of foreign debt bonds and the state order to privatized enterprises. Beautiful combination, nothing to say! Who is watching the execution of these incredible for their criminal audacity economic sabotage? Agents of American influence in the ruling elite of Russia, including the allegedly disgraced A. Kudrin and no less odious A. Chubais!

    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, during his tour of Latin American countries, gave an interview to Cuban media 23 February 2013, where, in particular, he said:

    But if you ask me if the financial world order is fair today, I will say no to you. It requires the continuation of systematic work and it must be led by all states, not only those represented in the G8 or G20. We are ready to continue to cooperate with Cuba, with our friends in Latin America, with all states in the matter of establishing a more modern and fair financial order in the world.

    I will not hide, and I, and I am sure, my colleague Vladimir Putin is comfortable enough to communicate with the US administration, but there are topics on which our positions diverge very seriously. One of them is the issue of armaments. We had different periods in the relationship, I must admit that in general in recent years our relations have developed rather not badly, because we managed to prepare and sign very important documents, our American colleagues contributed to our accession to the WTO.

    What is this “fair financial order in the world” because of which, in contrast to Vladimir Putin, Medvedev, “to communicate comfortably with the US administration”? And this is the above-considered idea of ​​establishing a new world order, the transition to other economic and political relations, which are based on a reduction in the money supply, randomizing the population to overthrow the current political elites and the formation of new authorities following the changed economic conditions. For this, Russia during the presidency of Dmitry A. Medvedev, with the help of “American colleagues”, joined the WTO, becoming another cog in the TNC system, where there are no sovereign governments, no national interests, but there is a thirst for money and the world power of financiers sitting at another round table, the next Masonic order. Dmitry Medvedev's astounding revelation about the help of “American colleagues” testifies not only to the betrayal of the interests of the Russian people and Russia, but also to the recognition of external control in our country, whose leadership is located not in the Kremlin, but on Capitol Hill and in the Masonic orders USA and Europe, whose priests are trying to influence the policies of all countries of the world.

    A reduction in budget revenues in Russia, if it is impossible to use gold reserves and other savings invested in US and EU debt bonds, as well as a reduction in the money supply, will in the very near future lead to a sharp drop in the incomes of our country's citizens. And that means to the chaos, when people who are deprived of work will try to get it in any amount, breaking into numerous street appearances and searches for the guilty. This instability is extremely beneficial to the United States and the European Union, as in conditions of chaos, you can not only change the economic model in Russia, but also the political one by canceling the institute of presidency, selling off the remnants of state property, throwing off the poverty line tens of millions of people ready to execute any order for little money and food. In which new conditions does the state self-organize again, restoring stability? In the face of the loss of part of the territory and in a greatly weakened form. This is exactly what the creators of the New World Order need!

    What to oppose them, how to act in conditions of increasing chaos? Only by creating a nationally-oriented state, daily strengthening state power, expanding anti-corruption repression, while relying on the broad sections of the population supporting the sovereign policy of the Kremlin. Instead of a march of millions, basically smashing legitimate power, it is necessary to bring people to the square under the banner of the struggle against liberalism, against American influence in Russia, for the creation of national power and social justice. The chaos of street revolt, skillfully inflamed by American political technologists, must be fought with widespread involvement of the masses in protest demonstrations demanding order in Russia, the formation of a government of national trust, the nationalization of the monetary system and strategic enterprises, and the creation of state monopolies with firm pricing. All this is impossible without the firm will of V.Putin - the leader of the national liberation revolution, without political support of ONF - the mouthpiece of sovereign politics in Russia.
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    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 22 March 2013 11: 03 New
      27
      An article from the series "The tsar is good, the boyars are useless."
      And the name is off topic. What is socialism?
      Stalin had socialism.
      And what kind of socialism does Putin have?
      The author that holds people for suckers?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 22 March 2013 11: 06 New
        18
        Quote: baltika-18
        And what kind of socialism does Putin have?


        Through the actions of Rosneft, a narrow circle of limited people will not just be socialism, but paradise on earth (possibly promised)
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 March 2013 11: 14 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak
          Through the actions of Rosneft, a narrow circle of limited people will not just be socialism, but paradise on earth (possibly promised)

          That’s the hell of a narrow circle.
          And everyone else has wild market capitalism ........
          To provide entot the very paradise for a certain group of people.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 11: 49 New
            +6
            Quote: baltika-18
            a narrow circle of limited people will not have socialism, but paradise on earth

            This is the circle of people who are now hanging around in Cyprus trying to get "their" money back laughing

            The title of the article immediately asks questions! In our country, the tender has fallen apart, but what kind of conclusion will it make about Kudrin. But Putin himself said that he had a very good relationship with him. ................. Isn’t Putin calling Bush his friend ????? Does Putin call the US partners. You can spit on Medvedev for a long time accusing him of all sins, but I will never believe that Medvedev is not under the control of the president. That concerns Glazyev with his 4%, but it was smooth on paper ....... .......
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 22 March 2013 11: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              You can spit on Medvedev for a long time accusing him of all sins, but I will never believe that Medvedev is not controlled by the president

              Sash, the fact that Medvedev is on his own, and Putin confronts him, is a tale for the D.I.L.
              Cyprus has dotted the "and".
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 22 March 2013 12: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: baltika-18

                Sash, the fact that Medvedev is on his own, and Putin confronts him, is a tale for d.i.

                Yes, I know, just before Chubais was to blame for everything, now Medvedev. The habit of the people to search for it.
              2. Vadivak
                Vadivak 22 March 2013 12: 35 New
                12
                Quote: baltika-18
                Sash, the fact that Medvedev is on his own, and Putin is opposing him


                Standoff continues
                1. Arberes
                  Arberes 22 March 2013 12: 41 New
                  11
                  THAT SIDE SIDE IS THE PRESIDENT.
                  But someone should be extreme? hi
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 22 March 2013 12: 50 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Arberes
                    But someone should be extreme?


                    The last or switchman will be, as always, a serf hi
                    1. S_mirnov
                      S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 21 New
                      +6
                      "What can be opposed to them, how to act in the conditions of growing chaos? Only by creating a nation-oriented state, daily strengthening state power, expanding anti-corruption repressions, while relying on broad strata of the population supporting the Kremlin's sovereign policy." - i.e. translating into Russian - it is necessary to consolidate the path of development of the country, which began in 91. Market economy, privatization, paid education and medicine, private ownership of land and means of production. Citizen author is on the "right" road! The more often you lick, the more rewards!
                  2. VAF
                    VAF 22 March 2013 18: 16 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Arberes
                    But someone should be extreme?


                    And the EXTREME will always be the PEOPLE ... which ... forever .. "in the field"! recourse
                2. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 16 New
                  +3
                  "The confrontation continues" is very funny, and they change their presidential chairs so that the confrontation is "honest" laughing
                  Enough of repeating the Chuhnin pouring into empty heads!
                3. akendram
                  akendram 22 March 2013 15: 43 New
                  +7
                  And who brought Medvedev to Moscow? Medvedev is not an independent figure
              3. Curculum
                Curculum 22 March 2013 14: 08 New
                +3
                Quote: baltika-18
                Cyprus has dotted the "and".

                Not really: Gazprom and Rosneft were not interested in the proposals of Cyprus, a source in the Ministry of Energy said - http://pda.1prime.ru/0/%7B39105E72-92BA-11E2-ACD0-6F4405245505%7D.uif
                1. VAF
                  VAF 22 March 2013 18: 18 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Kurkul
                  Not really: "Gazprom" and "Rosneft" are not interested in the proposals of Cyprus


                  And what kind of fucking .. "offers" ???? To concede a stake in a bank, with a capitalization of 1,5 lard of greenery, while taking a loan of 5-20 lard ?????
                  1. Curculum
                    Curculum 22 March 2013 18: 33 New
                    +3
                    Quote: vaf
                    And what kind of fucking .. "offers" ???? To concede a stake in a bank, with a capitalization of 1,5 lard of greenery, while taking a loan of 5-20 lard ?????

                    "Yesterday we held the last round of negotiations (with the head of the Cyprus Ministry of Finance - IF). The negotiations are over," Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told reporters. "Their proposals were as follows: to create a state-owned company with the transfer of assets of gas fields and offer Russian investors to enter, buy bonds with subsequent entry into shares. Our investors considered this issue, showed no interest," Siluanov said. (http://interfax.ru/news.asp?id=297012)
                    Those. the Cypriots decided to cheat and offered bonds, and the shares - as if later. Therefore, our Ministry of Finance sent them as it were ...
              4. VAF
                VAF 22 March 2013 18: 15 New
                +4
                Quote: baltika-18
                Cyprus has dotted the "and".


                I agree the same, since .. "holy" (in the sense .. "honestly earned and acquired by back-breaking labor" wassat ... touch .. LOWER) !!! wassat
            2. askort154
              askort154 22 March 2013 12: 31 New
              +6
              Quote ... Alexander Romanov ..... but I will never believe that Medvedev is not controlled by the president.

              While it is controlled, but Medvedev's retinue is already preparing him for the next coronation, a subtle crack in personal relations, as 2018 approaches, will only increase. In business and government
              there is no long friendship and partnership. Already on the forums, together
              sitting next to each other and kindly "whispering" into each other's ears you will not see them.
              1. sleepy
                sleepy 23 March 2013 02: 49 New
                0
                Quote: askort154
                "... Already on the forums, sitting together and next to each other and kindly" whispering "in each other's ears, you will not see them."


                And before they sat and whispered. And Serdyukov listened and recorded.
          2. Azzzwer
            Azzzwer 22 March 2013 17: 40 New
            +5
            Quote: baltika-18
            And everyone else has wild market capitalism ........

            Brothers, what is stopping us from establishing true popular power on our land?
        2. neri73-r
          neri73-r 22 March 2013 14: 52 New
          +4
          How do you know everything about promotions and everything else ???? OBS? One grandmother said ??? I don’t know and am silent. Share a serious source of information !!!! hi
      2. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 22 March 2013 13: 01 New
        +6
        baltika-18
        Welcome.
        Quote: baltika-18
        The author that holds people for suckers?

        Well, but isn't it? "All this is impossible without the firm will of Vladimir Putin - leader of the national liberation revolution, without political support, the ONF is the mouthpiece of sovereign policy in Russia. " Only tempering lacks...

        Here is another opinion of one economist. But do you really need such opinions now?
        "Yuri Boldyrev on" trompe l'oeil "- a cover for the anti-national essence of the current course

        What happens in the world? Contrasts And that is to say the least. Judge for yourself.

        In one country, not ours, unfortunately, but in Switzerland, a nationwide referendum was held, which decided to put in order salaries, all kinds of bonuses and "golden parachutes" for the "top managers" of any companies whose shares are sold in Switzerland on the stock exchange. Plus, at the same time, they refused to hold the Winter Olympics in Switzerland - the inhabitants of one of the cantons did not agree to allocate any three hundred million Swiss francs for this (compare with our expenses for the Sochi Olympics already exceeding all conceivable limits).

        In another country, ours, without any referenda, not only absurd in terms of inefficiency (from the point of view of the scale of the country's problems and the priorities arising from this) giant gigantic “Olympic construction sites” are organized, but also distributed to the “partners” of the territory, on which then, later just a little over a year, colossal mineral reserves are confirmed - on the Norwegian shelf of the Barents Sea worth at least 30 billion euros ....
        Yuri Boldyrev
        Source: svpressa.ru
      3. VAF
        VAF 22 March 2013 18: 13 New
        +6
        Quote: baltika-18
        And what kind of socialism does Putin have?
        The author that holds people for suckers?


        I completely agree, ++++! drinks

        A .. "message" ... Putin-Glazyev ... completely killed wassat that's just for some reason ... not Glazyev "appointed" .... Head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation wink
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 22 March 2013 19: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: vaf
          ... not Glazyev "is appointed

          Medvedev banned smile
          1. VAF
            VAF 22 March 2013 19: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            Medvedev banned


            As a .. "Friday joke" .. go +! laughing
            Who forbade .. DAM? belay Who banned ... GDP? wassat

            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 22 March 2013 20: 43 New
              +2
              Quote: vaf
              As a .. "Friday joke" .. go +! laughing

              It smile
        2. Bigriver
          Bigriver 23 March 2013 07: 01 New
          0
          Quote: vaf
          .... that's just for some reason ... not Glazyev is "appointed" .... Head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation wink

          It is possible that for Glazyev this is not quite the level.
          His level is premiere. Or in general - the ideology of changes in the economy.
          Without holding sonorous posts.
      4. starshina78
        starshina78 22 March 2013 19: 31 New
        +6
        The author, probably, had in mind the emergence of a social-democratic principle, in the case of the emergence of the Putin-Glazyev tandem. If this happened, it would be great. Glazyev had long been proposing a change of economic policy, but he was not stubbornly listened to, and during the presidency of Medvedev he was generally removed from everywhere. But Glazyev is the smartest person - they recognize this even where they cannot stand him, i.e. in the West because of his connection with the Communist Party.
        1. VAF
          VAF 22 March 2013 19: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: starshina78
          And Glazyev is the smartest person


          I agree to all 100%! +! drinks
      5. vezunchik
        vezunchik 22 March 2013 20: 08 New
        0
        this is one gang, how can you talk?
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 22 March 2013 11: 04 New
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      All this is impossible without the firm will of Vladimir Putin, the leader of the national liberation revolution,

      Comrade Major Ignatiev, is it possible without licking? I think even the GDP from this frowns. Just Mr. President. And then it starts again as in the 70s

      USTINOV. Comrades, let me turn to the Political Bureau of the Central Committee with the following proposal. We all know what gigantic work to strengthen the country's defense is carried out by L. I. Brezhnev. He is the Chairman of the Council of Defense. The role of the Chairman of the Council of Defense is very high, and L. I. Brezhnev remarkably fulfills this high duty.
      1. pavlo
        pavlo 22 March 2013 11: 41 New
        +5
        In any case, they still remembered what the Great Patriotic War was, and your memory seemed to fade.
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 22 March 2013 13: 23 New
        0
        "Just Mr. President." Is he really "Master" to you? Do you really think so? No.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 22 March 2013 14: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "Just Mr. President." Is he really "Master" to you? Do you really think so


          Well, you saw that I addressed it to the slime. why are you asking? I have one lord
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 22 March 2013 15: 51 New
            +1
            I just wanted to remind you that a person is born free. Gentlemen, he then puts himself on his neck.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 22 March 2013 16: 30 New
              10
              Quote: S_mirnov
              that man is born free


              To do this, he needs to be born at least in a primitive communal system, although there were leaders
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 22 March 2013 17: 37 New
                +3
                Submit or disobey the surrounding social system, also a person’s personal choice. wink
                1. Nick
                  Nick 22 March 2013 22: 41 New
                  +2
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Submit or disobey the surrounding social system, also a person’s personal choice.

                  The choice is always limited by society, the society in which a person exists. Otherwise, a person becomes an outcast of society with all the consequences, up to physical death ...
              2. Nick
                Nick 22 March 2013 22: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Vadivak
                you must be born at least in a primitive communal system, although there were leaders

                That's it.
            2. Nick
              Nick 22 March 2013 22: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              that man is born free. Gentlemen, he then puts himself on his neck.

              And never wondered why? What is the alternative ?. If you think carefully, you will understand ...
    3. pinecone
      pinecone 22 March 2013 11: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: baltika-18
      Article from the series "the king is good, the boyars are useless"


      Or a well-worn plot with a "bad" and "good" investigator
      1. kris
        kris 22 March 2013 11: 39 New
        +6
        The major licked deeply.
        Experience is probably there!
      2. pavlo
        pavlo 22 March 2013 11: 41 New
        +1
        And what is Kudrin handsome?
    4. Arberes
      Arberes 22 March 2013 11: 18 New
      18
      A wonderful, wonderful report by Comrade Glazyev!
      I really want to believe that all this will benefit our economy and improve the life of Russians. Dear colleagues, I’m with you.
      But the constant increase in tariffs for everything and everyone honestly already got me!
      We didn’t have a pay raise anymore!
      And I can’t be silent, it’s boiling, let it be worse for me, but I will say!

      Pessimistic comedy.

      Blinking eyes
      On channels of various media
      He asked you what the fuck
      Or all went crazy at once

      Etozh need to so raise tariffs
      Two and even three times
      People have the last shirt
      Take away and even cowards

      Near Nabiullina suffers
      Looks at the ticket through the glasses
      Yes, with the salaries of these managers
      You can live beautifully in Russia

      And no special mind
      To have money over the edge
      Boldly sell raw materials to the west
      Yes, increase rates sharply

      Poking around in thieves' fumes
      OUR OFFICER impudent folly
      Where there is a conscience ... wow
      To put on your own people

      But not everything is so bad and sad
      We draw conclusions from the media
      The PRESIDENT holds his hand on the pulse
      A plundered tormented country.
      Well, immediately it became easier!
    5. optimist
      optimist 22 March 2013 11: 18 New
      13
      Another article on the topic of GDP-D'Artanyan; the rest are pi ... races. Like one GDP for the people, and the rest of the corrupt officials are against. Yes, he is for the people. Only for the people whose lists are annually published by Forbes magazine. If he really tries to do something for the PEOPLE, he will be “merged” in the same way as the bourgeoisie “merged” Nicholas II in February 17th. And let the ardent zaputintsy name AT LEAST ONE breakthrough of Russia in domestic and foreign policy over the past 13 years? All this is idle talk, which reminds me of the end of the 80s, when the partocrats were smacked, and Gorbachev was the only good one. I hope everyone remembers how it ended? And now, the authorities understand that the end of "Putin's" "prosperity" is coming. Hence all this rotten media controversy,
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 22 March 2013 19: 45 New
        -6
        Quote: optimist
        And now the authorities understand that the end of "Putin's" "prosperity" is coming.

        It was the thirteenth year of the end of Putin .. year after year is coming, and the end of the region is not seen.
        Listen, my friend, I read the end of Putin only on the Internet. I watch the marches of millions of Internet fighters every day. I often ask them - when will you throw it off? , that’s the whole conversation.
        so I want to ask you - when you throw off Putin: awww, keyboard revolutionaries)))
        1. Normal
          Normal 22 March 2013 19: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: djon3volta
          so I want to ask you - when you throw off Putin: awww, keyboard revolutionaries

          Answer:
          sseligerysh, rat-rat, nashistik and so on
        2. optimist
          optimist 22 March 2013 22: 21 New
          +3
          That is the point, My Friend Sent that I will not throw it off, but people like you. Which ate in the 90s, and now they take a mortgage and go to Turkey in the summer. And very, very soon they will not have a mortgage, not Turkey. And again they will eat anacomas (at best). And then you will be the loudest scream, what GDP ga..don. And I won’t. Because now I know it. It’s not long to wait .... Unfortunately ...
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 23 March 2013 02: 56 New
            0
            Quote: optimist
            "... I already know that. The wait won't be long ...."


            It is necessary not only to wait, but also to be mentally prepared.
          2. djon3volta
            djon3volta 23 March 2013 06: 43 New
            -4
            Quote: optimist
            My Friend Sent

            and who sent me? )))
            Quote: optimist
            It’s not long to wait ....

            Well, how much is left that you don’t write? said A, say B.

            Quote: Normal
            awww, keyboard revolutionaries

            and who are you? come on bye)))
    6. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 22 March 2013 11: 19 New
      10
      It’s just a manifesto, No one is going to do anything, the year has already passed like a leaf under the wind, the most favorable for decisive measures, But what we have so much fuss and skirmishes among the deputies, But laws are adopted clearly despite the fact that some cause outrage among the masses, Politics continues in in the same direction as it was, All the revolutionism of the President ended with his election, What is still not clear, The course is disastrous, but the authorities all the same with the tenacity of a rhino continue it,
    7. Andrey57
      Andrey57 22 March 2013 11: 23 New
      16
      Judging by the proposal of GDP for the post of chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, Madame Nabiullina, GDP does not at all correspond to the aspirations of the author, moreover, so far there is no fight against corruption, judging by Taburetkin with the harem, while there is only a mouse fuss over the redistribution of the sharply shrinking pie of the budget cut and pushing back from him those who "already had their own" hi
      1. wall
        wall 22 March 2013 15: 08 New
        +3
        After Nabiullina, Putin even began to turn away from Putin.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 March 2013 18: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: wall
          After Nabiullina, Putin even began to turn away from Putin.

          The fact is that the current head of the Central Bank remains an adviser to Nabiulina.
          1. sleepy
            sleepy 23 March 2013 03: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: wall
            "After Nabiullina, even the Zaputinites began to turn away from V. Putin."


            Nomination of Elvira Sahipzadovnana Nabiullins such a post is just a shortage of personnel.
            And the cadres decide everything and Seliger frames are on the way.
    8. Kaa
      Kaa 22 March 2013 11: 27 New
      13
      it is necessary to bring people to the square under the banner of the fight against liberalism, against American influence in Russia, for the creation of national power and social justice. Against the chaos of the street riot, skillfully fanned by American political strategists, it is necessary to fight with the wide involvement of the masses in protests that require the establishment of order in Russia, the formation of a government of popular trust, the nationalization of the monetary system and strategic enterprises, the creation of state monopolies with firm pricing.
      Well, sooo wise advice, I trudge like a boa constrictor on the asphalt ... Leave on the square - look at Ukraine, deduce from 2000, who is not lazy, the robbery only intensified. Creation of national power - sorry, which of the nations of Russia? Social justice - it was (albeit not fully) in the USSR, did it work strongly in the late 80s? The government of popular confidence - TO WHOM? State monopolies were already much more monopolized than in the USSR, in 1991 everyone was delighted with demonopolization, where is the Union now? The topic is relevant, and there are no methods for solving problems. It smacks of Bonapartism - "The main thing is to get involved in a good fight, and then we'll see" Buzzing, walking in the square is fun, I myself remember the frenzy of 1990-1991, how did it end? Maybe give the opportunity to finalize those who were chosen, their term? For those who are not satisfied, I propose another alternative - after each unpopular or incomprehensible decision - to hold new re-elections - we will live! In the manner of the Polish Sejm of the 17th century - one nobleman yells drunk - "Don't let me!" - no decision has been made. How did it end - first they lost Ukraine, then the statehood in general! Who is in favor of such a development of events - I ask you to minus in turn, only, mind you, with arguments, otherwise I have not yet grown to such anonymous democracy ...
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 22 March 2013 11: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Kaa
        In the manner of the Polish Sejm of the 17th century - one nobleman yells drunk - "Don't let me!" - no decision has been made. How did it end - first they lost Ukraine, then the statehood in general!

        Greetings, Wise One!
        + everything is logical in your post, but let me make a slight clarification: did Ukraine exist during the "Polish Sejm of the 17th century"? In any form?
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 22 March 2013 12: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: Kurkul
          In any form?

          In the same zadolbanny as now ... here is a Polish map, pay attention to the inscription "TIPUS GENERALIS VKRAINA" in the upper left corner - Latin, which translates as "General plan of Ukraine" - in the then. To enlarge - click.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 22 March 2013 12: 58 New
            +9
            Quote: Kaa
            In the same dowdy as now.

            Wise Kaa, it’s better to be the outskirts of the Great Empire than an extremely stoned one. hi
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 22 March 2013 13: 16 New
              10
              Quote: baltika-18
              better to be the outskirts of the Great Empire

              I hope you are not talking about the Great "Rzhech Pospolita from Mozha to Mozha"? And then they themselves were a colonial empire even in the early 30s of the 20th century ... they demanded colonies from the League of Nations ... in Africa or Latin America ... If about something else ... in the USSR the inhabitants of Ukraine they definitely didn't feel like a suburb ... they lived better than places in Russia ... immigrants from Ukraine from 1953 to 1982 were generally secretaries general ... only all this was forgotten by many, and young people don't even know ...
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 22 March 2013 13: 54 New
                +7
                Quote: Kaa
                I hope you are not talking about the Great "Rzhech Pospolita from Mozha to Mozha"

                No way, Comrade Marshal.
                For me, there is one empire-USSR. soldier
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 22 March 2013 13: 58 New
                +6
                Quote: Kaa
                Ukraine's outskirts

                The edge of the word edge, nothing derogatory.
                hi
                1. Kaa
                  Kaa 22 March 2013 16: 10 New
                  +7
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  The edge of the word edge, nothing derogatory.

                  And in my thoughts there was no derogatory perception. Even the term "Ukrainians" - in the real sense of the word - is something like "border guards", it is more suitable for the Cossacks, and for the Zaporozhye, and for the Don, Kuban, Terek, Semirechye, Transbaikal - to all. In the 14th century, for example, there was "Ryazan Ukraine", then - "Voronezh Ukraine" - the official titling of the Russian lands in different periods. There were also "Kiev Ukrainians", but the inhabitants in the official correspondence of the Grand Duke of Moscow in the 14th century were called "Cherkasy", by the way, hence the name of the Ukrainian city down the Dnieper from Kiev - Cherkassy.
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  For me, there is one empire-USSR.

                  I absolutely agree.
                  1. baltika-18
                    baltika-18 22 March 2013 16: 56 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Kaa
                    Even the term "Ukrainians" - in the real sense of the word - is something like "border guards"

                    This is what I meant when I wrote about the "edge of the empire." hi
              3. baltika-18
                baltika-18 22 March 2013 13: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Kaa
                I hope you are not talking about the Great "Rzhech Pospolita from Mozha to Mozha"

                No way, Comrade Marshal.
                For me, there is one empire-USSR. soldier
          2. Curculum
            Curculum 22 March 2013 13: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Kaa
            "TIPUS GENERALIS VKRAINA" - Latin, which translates as "General plan of Ukraine" - in the then.

            Thanks! Unfortunately, I am not a connoisseur of Latin, but I am plagued by doubts about the correctness of your translation: based on the first letter of the word "VKRAINA", the translation as "VKRAINA" is more appropriate, or am I wrong?
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 22 March 2013 13: 52 New
              +9
              Quote: Kurkul
              more suitable translation as "VKRAYNA"

              "Well-known chronicle sources on the history of the 9-13th centuries, that is, for 5 centuries, a number of terms are used as ethnonyms for the name of the population of Rus:" Rus "," Russian clan "," Russians "," Rus "," Rossi " , "Russian people." Let's move on to the 14th century and further, up to the 17th century inclusive. At this time, the names "Little Russia" and "White Russia", as well as "Great Russia" appear. This is the division of territories, not the Russian people into which -this "ethnic groups" with the allocation of "Ukrainians" and "Belarusians", was supported by political events. From the 14th to the 18th century, the Russian people were divided between two states: the eastern Muscovy and the western, ruled by Poles and Lithuanians. under the rule of the Poles and Lithuania, and the names “Little Russia” and “Belaya Rus” were used. Neither in the chronicles nor in the historical documents of that time, not a single line mentions either “Ukraine”, nor “Ukrainians”, or “Belarus”, nor "Belarusians" Both in Kiev and in Moscow, the language was taught at that time according to the same uch ebnik - "Grammar" by Meletiy Smotrytsky. As for "ukraine" (i.e. outskirts), then this term, as before, is applied in sources to a variety of territories. In Polish sources of the 16th century, the word "Ukraine" is often found (with an accent on the second syllable and with a small letter), from which two centuries later the Little Russian self-styledists will lead their fantastic country "Ukraine", inhabited by the same fantastic "Ukrainian people". Although the Poles were initially under “Ukraine” meant all the same borderland, suburbs and did not tie it to any particular territory. No wonder the synonyms of “Ukrainian” in the Polish language were the words “ugranich”, “pogranich”. The Polish king Stefan Batory, for example, wrote in his station wagon: living in Ukraine, Russian, Kiev, Volyn, Podolsk and Bratslav or "to all in general and to each of our elders of the Ukrainian elite." We find the following places with the Polish historian Maciej Stryjkovsky (d. 1582), the author of the Chronicle of Polish, Lithuanian, Zhmud and All Russia: Albrecht, the royal nephew, caused losses in Ukraine (i.e. at the border) Polish and Zhmudsky lands. " "Money was given out from the treasury to horse and foot captains in Ukraine, Moscow and Tatar, ”- i.e. on the border with Russia and the steppe http://www.ukrstor.com/ukrstor/orlov-matriza.html
              1. Curculum
                Curculum 22 March 2013 14: 12 New
                +2
                Quote: Kaa
                Well-known annalistic sources on the history of 9-13 centuries

                Concisely, succinctly and clearly, thank you! hi
            2. baltika-18
              baltika-18 22 March 2013 15: 53 New
              +5
              Quote: Kurkul
              Thanks! Unfortunately, I am not a connoisseur of Latin, but I am plagued by doubts about the correctness of your translation: based on the first letter of the word "VKRAINA", the translation as "VKRAINA" is more appropriate, or am I wrong?

              This may be due purely to pronunciation.
              In recent antiquity, in our languages, before the vowels at the beginning of the word, the letter "v" was often used. Examples: sharp (keen), youth, (vyunosh), ukraine (vukraina).
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 22 March 2013 11: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Kaa
        trudge like a boa constrictor on asphalt.


        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      3. Ascetic
        Ascetic 23 March 2013 00: 37 New
        +1
        Kaa, with your permission, I will translate the meaning of your post for keyboard revolutionaries

        I stand on the pavement
        Shod in skis
        Whether the friction force exceeds my physical abilities,
        Whether the coefficient of my mental development is slightly lower
        the average ...

        Inspired by associations with

        Quote: Kaa
        trudge like a boa constrictor on asphalt ..
    9. dmb
      dmb 22 March 2013 11: 39 New
      13
      This is not the first time a "retired major" pleases the site with his revelations. Something tells me that he is the same major as I am a dance teacher, and that he has an idea of ​​the GRU exclusively from the moronic film "Military Intelligence". Due to the nature of my work, I often had to communicate with Grushniki. I want to say that even their "militants" who devour raw frogs speak Russian better than the "retired major" who claims to be an analyst. I will not dwell on the essence of the article, because an objective assessment was given to it in the previous comments. Those who want to have fun read the text, you will find a lot of fun. For example, the author's "processes" have a clearly animated face, and the phrase: "... the program of the Putin-Glazyev tandem ... some points of which have been the color of the Communist Party for many years." - indeed, as the author further writes, is able to "kill" any high school teacher. The item is color. Very, very fresh.
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 22 March 2013 12: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: dmb
        he has an idea of ​​the GRU exclusively from the moronic film "Military Intelligence"

        Nope, rather "Spetsnaz in Russian", the comedy does not pull higher ... laughing
    10. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 22 March 2013 12: 17 New
      +9
      Laughing ... Putin's socialism ... the author is a joker. Posted by major GRU ... hmm ... strong analytics won't say anything ...
      dmb "Something tells me that he is the same major as I am a dance teacher"
      Vague doubts torment me too ... not one I thought so ... hehe ...
    11. vadson
      vadson 22 March 2013 12: 23 New
      +8
      not, of course, the things that are right in becoming described (I'm talking about Glazyev’s project), but a reasonable question arises:
      What Putin Nabiulin nominated for the post of head of the Central Bank?
      I finally can’t understand what kind of eggs the GDP holds that he is dancing to the tune of the liberals, who can MAKE the head of state lie under the liberals?
      options: 1) personal beliefs - gdp liberal
      2) the loot of the gdp in the west is afraid of losing
      3) gdp mishandled Cossack, afraid of dirt and old stocks
      4) your options
      1. akendram
        akendram 22 March 2013 15: 40 New
        0
        1st and 2nd options are more likely. My version of GDP does not control the elite completely, and therefore, slowly, slowly pursues a policy of strengthening power, and as for the economy, it is more about the macroeconomics, where it does not like particularly big risks, which is fraught with a loss of control. A decrease in control leads to a loss of power, and consequently - again the confusion and reeling that we have already passed
        1. sleepy
          sleepy 23 March 2013 03: 20 New
          0
          Quote: akendram
          ".... A decrease in control leads to the loss of power, the consequence is again confusion and vacillation ..."


          Y. Andropov also pursued a policy of strengthening power.
          How it ended - M. Gorbachev came to power.
          Now on the Internet there are articles on the topic "Why did I consider Andropov a spy ...". http://verdysh.narod.ru/a/androp.html
          "... The USSR was defended only by middle-level officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          All other power structures were paralyzed under the sensitive Andropov leadership, even earlier.
          The fact that Andropov was an agent of the CIA or MOSSAD, conversations among operatives were already in 1983.
          All of his policies since the early 70s basically corresponded to the strategy of the CIA's operational work in our country ... ".

          http://www.ic-xc-nika.ru/texts/2008/jun/n220.html
    12. UAZ Patriot
      UAZ Patriot 22 March 2013 12: 24 New
      +4
      tandem "Putin-Glazyev" - sounds more inspiring than "Putin-Medvedev"
      1. vadson
        vadson 22 March 2013 12: 56 New
        +2
        that’s what it just sounds
    13. smel
      smel 22 March 2013 12: 30 New
      +7
      The title of the article is impressive and portends interesting information (at least a little analysis) ... In fact, a dummy or a soap bubble. The author is clearly not in the subject of the essence of the terms "socialism" and "liberalism". Although according to the signature, he should not be in the topic. And he does not need to write. Let him read something MINUS
    14. elmi
      elmi 22 March 2013 12: 30 New
      +9
      As I understand it, the article makes it clear that Vladimir Putin is not to blame, but representatives of the external foreign government are to blame. Something that reminds me of "shifting the blame on a neighbor" We always look for someone to blame on someone to blame, failures, and who is against - it means he is a liberal, he is from the swamp. I am for the fastest revival of Russia, but you can climb at different speeds: as now with a snail's pace or as quickly as under E.M. Primakov. He raised Russia in a few months and after his displacement, the Russian economy was still moving fast by inertia.
      1. akendram
        akendram 22 March 2013 15: 33 New
        -2
        And what did Primakov do, that he raised Russia in a few months, that it also developed by inertia?
        1. elmi
          elmi 22 March 2013 17: 12 New
          +3
          The life of the Russians lifted, the economy began to develop better. You can find out more in nete.
        2. Normal
          Normal 22 March 2013 20: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: akendram
          And what did Primakov do

          Well, for example, when Primakov was chairman of the Government of Russia, pensions began to be paid and debts on them reduced. And this is without Putin (who would have thought?) And even without rising oil prices.
    15. Orik
      Orik 22 March 2013 12: 35 New
      12
      The recipe is simple: put 80% of the "elite" under the knife, confiscate the capital they have stolen, and use this money to recreate industrial potential, making Russia a powerful power. But where is Putin here? He is not here. request
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 22 March 2013 13: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Orik
        The recipe is simple: put 80% of the "elite" under the knife, confiscate the capital they have stolen, and use this money to recreate industrial potential, making Russia a powerful power. But where is Putin here? He is not here.

        Today, Alexander, I completely agree with you.
      2. COBOK
        COBOK 22 March 2013 13: 52 New
        +3
        I think that it’s time for Putin to understand: in the future he does not have a well-fed old age in a distant foreign resort with a bunch of dough lying on accounts in offshore, he has two ways: either on a gun carriage under the tears and lamentations of the people (like Stalin and Chavez) , or by a leg on a lamppost under the screams and whistles of the crowd (Mussolini, than not an example).
        The problem is that in Russia there is no other leader on a national scale (I ask you to refute, if I’m not right), and this leader still has a reserve of popular trust, I’m personally ready to forgive him for something that may emerge (or may not emerge, I hope and I believe) in the investigation of corruption cases that go into criminal cases of high treason. Putin can become a truly national leader, and it’s quite simple to start a fight with the enemies of the people, just like that, without quotes. Does he need to decide who he is: a good friend or really a HEAD OF STATE?
        The issue of deprivatization is solved very simply, and it is with the opinion of the majority of the people taken into account that it is enough to recognize as criminal and condemn the activities of the presidents: gorby and EBN. Enterprises, mineral resources, etc. remained in Russia, they were not transported anywhere, send to .... new owners or offer them work, but with a real assessment of the results. Leave private ownership of the means of production, BUT only for those enterprises that were CREATED by the owners, do not sleep. .. are "effective managers".

        And now the questions: 1 a significant part of the gold reserves of Russia is located abroad, and in the event of a change in the country's course, they can freeze the country's accounts (the liberals did not just sit there) 2. what was destroyed in the process of privatization and "efficient management" and turned into money exported abroad, how to deal with it (my option is to detain these "farmers" in the country and "talk" for a day or two on the topic of returning rubles to their homeland, and then declare them banned from traveling for ... twenty years, until make sure to return everything)


        And this is only with regards to politics and economics ... This is such a flight of consciousness, please criticize, or supplement, or correct
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 March 2013 14: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: COBOK
          And this is only with regards to politics and economics ... This is such a flight of consciousness, please criticize, or supplement, or correct

          What to supplement ........
          I think the same way.
          Thoughts are sound and concrete.
        2. Orik
          Orik 22 March 2013 14: 54 New
          +2
          And now the questions: 1 a significant part of the gold reserves of Russia is located abroad, and in the event of a change in the country's course, they can freeze the country's accounts (the liberals did not just sit there) 2. what was destroyed in the process of privatization and "efficient management" and turned into money exported abroad, how to deal with it (my option is to detain these "farmers" in the country and "talk" for a day or two on the topic of returning rubles to their homeland, and then declare them banned from traveling for ... twenty years, until make sure to return everything)


          On the first, taking into account corporate debt, we owe them a comparable figure. According to the second, with the collective Trotsky it is simply "either a tit in the hand, or an ice ax in the head", namely, in the case of a voluntary return of capital to the state, we leave 1-5% and "walk Vasya", if not, then ... it applies to family members. Moreover, the first and the second are closely related and solved together in different ways.
          1. COBOK
            COBOK 22 March 2013 15: 19 New
            +2
            Corporate debt? and to whom do corporations belong, registered where?
            We need to think about how to bring the good home, because without this "fuck off ... with our liberalism" sounds somehow softer, or something ... negative
      3. kris
        kris 22 March 2013 15: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: Orik
        The recipe is simple: put 80% of the "elite" under the knife, confiscate the capital they have stolen, and use this money to recreate industrial potential, making Russia a powerful power. But where is Putin here?


        it is included in 80%.
        1. Normal
          Normal 22 March 2013 16: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: kris
          it is included in 80%.


          Under the number 1
    16. Grey68
      Grey68 22 March 2013 12: 35 New
      +2
      Too many emotions.
    17. maxiban
      maxiban 22 March 2013 13: 35 New
      +6
      Glazyev invented the bicycle. According to the principles that he listed in his report, Belarus has been living for many years.
    18. Karabin
      Karabin 22 March 2013 13: 53 New
      +7
      In Soviet times, the Ipatiev method of harvesting grain was advertised. There was such a joke
      - What is the essence of the Ipatiev method?
      - the fact that everyone must constantly ipat and ipat.
      So the author believes that the readers ’need to eat and brain, otherwise nonsense, that
      Vladimir Putin is the leader of the national liberation revolution, less and less believe.
      1. BorisBM
        BorisBM 22 March 2013 14: 20 New
        +3
        Nobody believes in GDP leadership, well, except that the full ones Even those who write to order on this topic like Fedorov and others do not believe. Yes, and how to believe in the well-intentionedness of his thoughts, plans and projects, if his affairs are absolutely opposite. So with the appointment of a bitch known to everyone in the Central Bank, is it possible to assume that this was done for the benefit of the people. Quite the contrary. In general, people made other forecasts. For example, Glazyev is the same. But it’s not fate. no power whatsoever. The state is slowly plunging into chaos.
    19. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 22 March 2013 13: 57 New
      +9
      As we all so much love verbiage, pouring water does not carry bags.
      Well, what kind of socialism can Putin build if he cannot even deal with embezzlers, and figure it out where everything has already been revealed and proven. In order to build a normal, working socialism, he will have to stand across oligarchs and thieving officials, and this is not a scandal in a noble family, this is a war and a serious and dangerous war, with inevitable losses on both sides. Only now, neither the author, as I understand it, much less the president is not ready for such losses. Only a naive person can believe that someone will abandon the billionth feeder just like that by the decision of even the president.
      1. COBOK
        COBOK 22 March 2013 14: 49 New
        +2
        Feeding trough ..., it is simply necessary to understand that the conditions are no longer for the feeding trough - the question is how to leave for another world - a respected old man or in a tie on a lamppost (as an option - on a crane). It’s just time to make a choice already - someone may forgive sins against the people at the expense of future merits, but if these merits are visible in the future, but the perspective depends on the course that V.V.P. will go, but for now the course leads directly in ... u
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 22 March 2013 15: 07 New
        +6
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Putin, even if he cannot deal with embezzlers


        Everything he can, everything he can
        But this, this this - nothing!

        A. Pugacheva - Woody-Guthrie (translation by T. Sikorska)
    20. Tartary
      Tartary 22 March 2013 14: 46 New
      +5
      Hike here on the site there are "comrades" more abruptly retired major of the GRU ...
      Only now what structure do they belong to (and) and why do we need brain powder here ... Nothing to do?
      But we are orphans think that our "thinkers" are fully loaded and they just have no time to chat ...
      Here Glazyev, for example, nowhere does not shine very well in public ... Why?

      Want Want!!! I want such a "gray cardinal" who will quietly create favorable conditions for the life of the PEOPLE in our beloved Russia!
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 22 March 2013 15: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: Tartary
        Campaign here on the site there are "comrades" more abruptly retired major of the GRU

        Along the way, he is the same "Major of the GRU" as I am "Marshal" or you are "Captain". Continuous frustrations and confabulations ... I would write modestly - "Major Whirlwind" - and everyone would understand ...
        1. Tartary
          Tartary 22 March 2013 15: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Kaa
          Along the way, he is the same "Major of the GRU" as I am "Marshal" or you are "Captain". Continuous frustrations and confabulations ... I would write modestly - "Major Whirlwind" - and everyone would understand ...

          I absolutely agree, + convergence and installation ... request
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 22 March 2013 17: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: Kaa
          "Major Whirlwind"

          No need to insult the Whirlwind! He was a real scout!
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 23 March 2013 04: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            He was a real scout!
            But there are no real GRU majors, he first offended them ... with his fanfare and amateurism ...
    21. Egoza
      Egoza 22 March 2013 14: 55 New
      +7
      Due to the fact that our site is military, I propose that the author of this article (and similar trolls) be given the title "Master of Combat Communications", which means it is trembling without stopping and is not the case. fellow
    22. zao74
      zao74 22 March 2013 14: 58 New
      +3
      I have long had the opinion that it is not the presidents and governments that govern the countries, but those who have all the money.
    23. akendram
      akendram 22 March 2013 15: 24 New
      +3
      An article closer to the finale turned into crazy nonsense. new world order, masons, etc. etc. These conspiracy theories have already heard hundreds of times! Interestingly, Putin is so white and fluffy (knows nothing at all), and Medvedev (Putin's protege) is an evil and bad liberal who works for the interests of the Rothschilds-Rockefellers. In short, the author mixed everything in the article. What is really interesting is the GLAZIEV REPORT and whether it will be heard and implemented.
    24. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 March 2013 16: 19 New
      +9
      And who is the boss in the house? Privatization is ongoing ... And successful enterprises are privatizing, but for what?
    25. Normal
      Normal 22 March 2013 16: 22 New
      +3
      Well article ... One of the minuses is mine. It is a pity that you can only have one. I join the almost universal opinion about this vital product.
      Or maybe the author is not a retired major, but a staff member of the propaganda department of the presidential administration (or whatever it is called)?
      Then everything is clear - nothing personal, business is business.
    26. homosum20
      homosum20 22 March 2013 16: 36 New
      +4
      Good article. I understood what the Putin-Glazyev strategy is. The Prime Minister’s strategy, along with Kudrin and Amers, has long been clear to me and I did not read about them.
      Whatever you want, but Putin-glazyev is closer to me than these bad kids. And especially their overseas bourgeoisie.
      At the very least, I see my future and my family's future in the GDP-Glazyev strategy, and in Medvedev's strategy I see the future of his family and the Kudrin family. But what for I need it.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 22 March 2013 22: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: homosum20
        Whatever you want, but Putin-glazyev is closer to me than these bad kids.

        But Putin is aware that he and Glazyev have muddied the strategy?
        Quote: homosum20
        At the very least, I see my and my family's future in the GDP-Glazyev strategy,

        Your future and your family are foggy.
    27. Grossfater
      Grossfater 22 March 2013 17: 13 New
      +3
      I read the comments and understood only one thing: If Putin is to blame for the entrance.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 22 March 2013 19: 58 New
        -4
        Quote: GrossFater
        I read the comments and understood only one thing: If Putin is to blame for the entrance.

        This virus has been spread on the Internet for a long time, now many suffer from it. On any site where it is possible to comment, Putin is to blame for everything. This is already a disease. In real life (on the street), talk about this topic, ask how it lives under Putin, I’m sure the result will be disastrous to comments from the Internet. I often conduct such conversations. People or do not care who the president is, or they say that life has become better, life has become more fun)))
        1. optimist
          optimist 22 March 2013 22: 27 New
          0
          It is not Putin's fault, it is your "co-religionists" who are to blame for him. VVP is well done, for 13 years he has been continuing the glorious work of the humpbacked-EBN. (For which, in fact, they put him there). It is like you, in 1914 they sang "God Save the Tsar", and three years later they took the Winter Palace by storm. You are like rams: as long as the stomach is full, the shepherd is good. When empty, it is bad. The problem is that it's time to pay for "full stomachs." When it gets to you, it will be too late ...
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta 23 March 2013 06: 51 New
            0
            Quote: optimist
            When empty, bad

            you see the stomach is empty, not mine))) Putin is not nice to you, not to me. I live far from Moscow, but I’m not going to storm the Kremlin. overthrow, all the revolutions in the capitals do and you know it perfectly.
        2. Karabin
          Karabin 22 March 2013 22: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: djon3volta
          you here in real life (on the street) talk on this subject

          Quote: djon3volta
          I often have such conversations

          Passers-by at the temple do not twist a finger?
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta 23 March 2013 06: 51 New
            -1
            Quote: Karabin
            Passers-by at the temple do not twist a finger?

            Can you imagine, no, they don’t twist. Probably the same brainless Nashi people like me)))
    28. washi
      washi 22 March 2013 17: 22 New
      +2
      This is how many people need to be held accountable for theft? The last amnesty for illegal capital already existed.
      Given the fact that under many articles we have only administrative punishment, I propose: All those seen as thieves and raiders, immediately transferred to the wipers. We will get rid of emigrants and put things in order in the streets.
    29. Director
      Director 22 March 2013 17: 33 New
      +3
      Spring will show who shit where.
    30. darkman70
      darkman70 22 March 2013 18: 31 New
      10
      The title of the article amused. What Putin is a socialist?))) He is a liberal and never really hid it. The present authorities would be very pleased to cancel all the social achievements of the Soviet Union, but they are afraid that the people might give an eye for this. Therefore, it does it gradually, quietly, so that it would not be so noticeable.
      As for the alleged anttogonism of Putin and Medvedev, all this is nonsense. Moreover, lately it seems to me that the authorities themselves are spreading these rumors. Then the same United Russia will be divided into, for example, Putin's Russia and Medvedev's Russia, and the people will go to vote for "socialists" or for "liberals", but in fact for the same bourgeois.) And there will supposedly be democracy and "freedom of choice" - oligarchs will be happy, well, just like in the United States or Britain. There, too, Obama and Carey, well, there were such irreconcilable politicians ... True, only during the elections, and they are financed by the same corporations.) A scam for the people, in short.
    31. wax
      wax 22 March 2013 18: 44 New
      +3
      Currently, only Glazyev has a balanced development strategy for Russia and in the interests of Russia. Will Putin take her and the achievements of the RAS as a basis? Hopefully. In this case, Glazyev should be offered for the post of Prime Minister.
    32. Byordovvv1
      Byordovvv1 22 March 2013 19: 26 New
      +1
      The author lucidly explains who is who and how much. Thanks and bold +
    33. luka095
      luka095 22 March 2013 19: 42 New
      +5
      Glazyev's report is interesting in itself and can be welcomed. But, as always, there is a big "but". Neither the president nor anyone else in power will do anything in accordance with Glazyev's recommendations. Because it will contradict everything they have done before. A few days ago on the site there was a discussion of the possibility of Glazyev's appointment as the head of the Central Bank of Russia - and what, whom did Putin suggest? It is the same now - the program exists, but it will not be implemented.
      And the author of the article seems to be some kind of storyteller ...
    34. ABV
      ABV 22 March 2013 21: 40 New
      0
      Medvedev, he is "an iPhone", he is the "lord of time", "moderator", he is .... well, and so on ..., unfortunately, the people will remember not his failed policy in all areas, but such eccentricities ( on the letter M), as --- shifting the time in the wrong direction, canceling the Technical Inspection (or rather the redistribution of financial flows from the traffic police to insurers) and 0 ppm (generally a masterpiece) !!! drinks
    35. ABV
      ABV 22 March 2013 21: 40 New
      0
      Medvedev, he is "an iPhone", he is the "lord of time", "modernizer", he is .... well, and so on ..., unfortunately, the people will remember not his failed policy in all areas, but such eccentricities ( on the letter M), as --- shifting the time in the wrong direction, canceling the Technical Inspection (or rather the redistribution of financial flows from the traffic police to insurers) and 0 ppm (generally a masterpiece) !!! drinks
    36. ABV
      ABV 22 March 2013 21: 41 New
      +3
      Medvedev, he is "an iPhone", he is the "lord of time", "modernizer", he is .... well, and so on ..., unfortunately, the people will remember not his failed policy in all areas, but such eccentricities ( on the letter M), as --- shifting the time in the wrong direction, canceling the Technical Inspection (or rather the redistribution of financial flows from the traffic police to insurers) and 0 ppm (generally a masterpiece) !!! bully
    37. suharev-52
      suharev-52 22 March 2013 22: 32 New
      +2
      I support the Glazyev program. What will come of it as if it were a tandem of it with GDP - we'll see. Well, as for the article. It is possible that the former warrior also wrote. Not everyone is fluent in pen as well as automatic. Sincerely.
    38. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 22 March 2013 23: 14 New
      +4
      Well, the candidate for the post of prime minister, S. Glazyev, has been "spotted".
      Now Putin is fighting with Medvedev ..

      The author wrote a lot - filtered his verbosity and came to the conclusion that all previous years turned out to be essentially failures.
      And the reforms and rates on foreign energy consumers and the lack of alternative ways of economic development of Russia.
      In general, we arrived ... rolled down.
      But what about our guarantor? How many times shouted to him about the danger ...
      As always - aside. He, as usual, substitutes others. Now we're rolling the barrel at Medvedev.
      The "switchman" is well-known, all that remains is to manage to "hang up a heap" on him the discredited "United Russia", "drain" both and you can take a breath.
      Instead of LADY - Glazyev, instead of EP - "People's Front".
      Thus updated, you can continue to hold the throne.
      This is how simple and unpretentious is domestic policy in the interests of individual people.
      .
    39. 1goose3
      1goose3 22 March 2013 23: 28 New
      +4
      Yes, I know, just before Chubais was to blame for everything, now Medvedev. The habit of the people to search for it.

      And that Mr. Alexander Romanov Chubais someone justified? Has he ceased to be a "bad person"? The fact that you do not see the obvious in what is happening in the country makes you engage in verbiage. If in your life you had to lead some kind of brigade, a group of people of at least a dozen people, you would not speak so dismissively about the people, you would hold back your tongue.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 23 March 2013 06: 55 New
        -3
        syatik then turns quietly into a liberal hamster wassat it all depends on the article, if it’s written about Putin, hamsters immediately show themselves, it’s easy to distinguish them by comments, what they write, mother don’t bark .. almost the echo of Moscow this site has become.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 23 March 2013 07: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: djon3volta
          syatik then turns unnoticed into liberal hamsters

          Not Saitik, but Sait! if you don’t like Wali on another.
          1. Samsebenaum
            Samsebenaum 23 March 2013 09: 08 New
            +1
            Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Not Saitik, but Sait! if you don’t like Wali on another.


            I support! A good idea.
            The ugly, vindictive, and conflicting organisms have nothing to do here.
    40. sleepy
      sleepy 23 March 2013 03: 33 New
      0
      From the article.

      "... What do you need to give today, what idea will gather millions of Russian people under new bannersagain wanting to breathe the heady spring air of revolution? The national revival of Russia and an independent economy, the absence of external pressure and social justice. That is, social democracy and the sovereignty of Russia.
      It was these banners, when no one was waiting, put in the windows of the Kremlin, it was under these banners that Vladimir Putin went for a third presidential termcompletely demoralizing the “swamp revolutionaries”.
      Starting with the case of A. Serdyukov and the fight against corruption, national liberation movement will inevitably come
      to the nationalization of the Central Bank and the bowels of our state, and repression,
      according to economist M. Khazin,
      once started, they will no longer be able to stop ...
      .Unbinding of the ruble issue to the inflow of foreign currency, as this led to the lack of sources of financing for the internal development of the economy, overstatement of interest rates on loans and foreign exchange loss
      about 100 billion dollars a year ... ".
    41. воронов
      воронов 23 March 2013 13: 52 New
      -2
      Putin well done !!!