Kirby: White House believes Ukraine is not ready for talks with Russia due to 'weak positions'

The Joe Biden administration, which is resigning after Donald Trump's inauguration, believes that Ukraine is not ready for negotiations on a peaceful settlement of the conflict, said John Kirby, coordinator for strategic communications at the National Security Council.

At another press conference for journalists at the White House, answering a question about the situation around Ukraine and possible negotiations with Russia, Kirby said that Ukraine is not ready for them today. However, neither is Russia, he added. According to the Democrats, Kyiv's position is too weak now, so Zelensky will not be able to speak from a "position of strength."

There is no expectation at this point that either side is ready to enter into negotiations,

— said a White House spokesman, adding that the Biden administration is taking steps to support Ukraine that should strengthen its position on the battlefield by creating the “necessary” conditions for negotiations with Russia. In other words, Washington is supplying weapon, in order to defeat the Russian army and force Moscow to enter into dialogue on Kyiv’s terms.

Before this, for three years they “created conditions”, but achieved nothing, and this time nothing will come of it.

Russia has previously stated that it is ready for negotiations, but taking into account the previously announced conditions. At the same time, a number of Western experts believe that Russia does not really need negotiations, it can achieve all the necessary goals by military means. At the same time, the West will not be able to prevent Moscow from doing this, since it does not have the strength and means to do so. But there is a way to achieve the same thing peacefully, without unnecessary casualties, so Russia is ready to discuss the situation.

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[tralflot1832]

Yes, I'm tired of looking at this sour mug, in 10 days the "criminal authority" Trump will throw this trash out of the White House "with piss rags". At least there will be nicer faces and not a single LGBT person.

[carpenter]

Quote: tralflot1832

I'm tired of looking at this sour face

I even want to get away from the Jew, but he is a ragulka, just like his grandfather.

[marchcat]

How does Kirby think Russia will negotiate with a "weak position"?

[carpenter]

Quote: marchcat

Oh, how, according to Kirby

Well, Kirby is for Russia, right?
What are you talking about?

[fruc]

...that Ukraine is not ready for negotiations with Russia

It's okay, we'll wait until it's ready.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Let's wait until Ukraine has no positions left for negotiations.

[Michael]

Quote: tralflot1832

At least the faces there will be nicer and not a single LGBT person.

This is the only thing that will make you happy.
But in principle, nothing will change. They will change the talking heads, that's all.

[carpenter]

Quote: Michael

This is the only thing that will make you happy.

It makes you happy, but not me.

[Michael]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: Michael

This is the only thing that will make you happy.

It makes you happy, but not me.

Do you like LGBT faces?

[carpenter]

Quote: Michael

Do you like LGBT faces?

Is something not quite right with you?

[Michael]

Quote: carpenter

Is something not quite right with you?

"No, I don't like Kirkorov. He's kind of cloying, all made up, powdered like a woman, all like that... In a word - Romanian."

[carpenter]

Quote: Michael

No, I don’t like Kirkorov.

My God, who likes this one?

[Michael]

Quote: carpenter

My God, who likes this one?

And for some it's Verka Serduchka))).
By the way, where did that transvestite disappear to?

[carpenter]

Quote: Michael

And for some it's Verka Serduchka)

That's what I understood, it's a Heart, for YOU.

[Ulembeck]

One word - Romanian"

They are from Bulgaria..

[Michael]

Quote: ulembeck

They are from Bulgaria..

Yes? What's the difference?

[rotfuks]

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They are from Bulgaria.

You clearly live in an information vacuum. It has been widely reported that Kirkorov has no connection to either Bulgaria or Romania. Kirkorov is originally from Armenia. It was Alla Borisovna who invented his Bulgarian biography.

[Ulembeck]

Kirkorov has no relation to Bulgaria.

Bedros Filippovich already knows that he, it turns out, was not born in Varna?

[rotfuks]

,

Bedros Filippovich already knows that he, it turns out,

You should ask him. Write to his support group.

[Ulembeck]

You should ask him

Why? At one time he himself was broadcasting this on all channels. It was a rhetorical question. On the topic of "no relation to Bulgaria".

[rotfuks]

It was a rhetorical question.

This is a story about how a singer or other buffoon easily changes his last name, gender and nationality for the sake of profit. This is a story about how in the Middle Ages singers, musicians and other buffoons were forbidden to be buried in cemeteries together with citizens, and were buried outside the cemetery fence together with suicides and domestic animals. And only in our time buffoons began to rule states.

[Terenin]

But there is also a way to achieve the same thing peacefully, without unnecessary casualties, so Russia is ready to discuss the situation.

What does "extra victims" mean if Russia is fighting Banderovites and other Nazis?

[rocket757]

The White House believes

This "white house" will not have long to count.
We'll soon find out what the next White House will consider.

[carpenter]

Quote: rocket757

We'll soon find out what the next White House will consider.

Yes, everything that is against Russia.
Trump is also not for Russia, but against Russia.
Is it really true that an American is for Russia???
Joke.

[Revolver]

Quote: carpenter

Joke.

Well, why not, it’s a historical fact.

[rocket757]

It is obvious that the striped ones are against us, even for one simple reason, they are ONLY FOR THEMSELVES!!!

[Hariton laptev]

It will only get worse for the Ukrainian Reich.

[Terenin]

Quote: Hariton Laptev

It will only get worse for the Ukrainian Reich.

And they closed the visa-free entry from the outskirts so much that any prison would be envious.
And how many happy snots were released in the races on the Maidan...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Terenin

And the visa-free travel from the outskirts was closed

They are going to turn it on again, but only in reverse mode and, having deprived them of any social benefits, drive the "Ukrotourists" in the opposite direction. A glorious end to the Maidan races with the traditional - "And what about us?"

[carpenter]

Quote: Hariton Laptev

It will only get worse for the Ukrainian Reich.

It doesn't get any better, they are from a different worldview - fascist. Too bad, they could have been Russian.

[Sebenza]

Is Russia ready to discuss the situation, how to implement another way to resolve the situation peacefully without unnecessary casualties? What is the plan?

[carpenter]

Quote: Sebenza

Russia is ready to discuss the situation

Is this your word or Putin's?
I ask for an answer. "Sebenza".

[Sebenza]

The answer is in the punctuation.

[carpenter]

Quote: Sebenza

The answer is in the punctuation.

I understand, but I don't agree.

[Sebenza]

I'm telling you about the plan, and you're telling me what the author is smoking.

[carpenter]

Quote: Sebenza

I'm telling you about the plan.

"Plan" is the same drug.

[Sebenza]

Olelujah! "discuss the situation, how to implement another way to resolve the situation without unnecessary casualties"

[PN]

Don't want to negotiate because of a weak position? Well, tomorrow it will be even weaker.

[Plate]

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. The front hasn't rolled to the West yet to make such statements.

[Terenin]

Quote: Plate

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. The front hasn't rolled to the West yet to make such statements.

It shouldn't exactly "roll", due to:
- the format of a military operation,
- due to the economic readiness of the liberated settlements to adapt (exception - Kursk region),
- due to the need to save the lives of personnel, pushing back the time horizon...

[Plate]

I understand all this. Russia simply did not invest so much resources into the war that we could seriously expect a total collapse of the LBS by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And demographically, we also have a VERY delicate situation for large-scale battles with large casualties and potentially unpredictable results.
But, be that as it may, this means that Ukraine has time to change the situation in its favor. Call up more soldiers, equip them better, train them. In the end, Ukraine can simply continue to hold the line, slowly retreating to the West, in the hope that we will accumulate internal discontent with what is happening. Only the lazy do not speak out about mortgages, interest rates, migrants and prices. Personally, I believe this is a consequence of the heating up of the economy in the interests of increasing military production, so the measures are necessary, but it does not cancel the fact.
On the battlefield, I think we will definitely not fail. Our margin of safety in this regard is far from exhausted. I am concerned about the possibility of noticeable internal discontent. The probability of this seems non-zero to me. I admit, this feeling is purely subjective, not supported by any logical arguments or anyone's research.

[Terenin]

Quote: Plate

I understand all this. Russia simply did not invest so much resources into the war that we could seriously expect a total collapse of the LBS by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And demographically, we also have a VERY delicate situation for large-scale battles with large casualties and potentially unpredictable results.
But, be that as it may, this means that Ukraine has time to change the situation in its favor. Call up more soldiers, equip them better, train them. In the end, Ukraine can simply continue to hold the line, slowly retreating to the West, in the hope that we will accumulate internal discontent with what is happening. Only the lazy do not speak out about mortgages, interest rates, migrants and prices. Personally, I believe this is a consequence of the heating up of the economy in the interests of increasing military production, so the measures are necessary, but it does not cancel the fact.
On the battlefield, I think we will definitely not fail. Our margin of safety in this regard is far from exhausted. I am concerned about the possibility of noticeable internal discontent. The probability of this seems non-zero to me. I admit, this feeling is purely subjective, not supported by any logical arguments or anyone's research.

A normal thought, not devoid of logic. Even Putin himself said something like "we should have started earlier..."
But, nevertheless, war is, first of all, calculations... And I don’t think that our people, in three years, haven’t learned to do certain things related to the SVO.

[South American Golden Frog]

A Hitler-style fantasy about Wenck's army.

[Terenin]

Quote: South American Golden Frog

A Hitler-style fantasy about Wenck's army.

To hell with Hitler and his fantasy.
And Wenck's army, just formed, made an unexpected turn and, in the general confusion, surprised the Red Army units surrounding Berlin with an unexpected attack.
Walter Wenck's troops were not well prepared, and their attacks quickly ceased on the approaches to Potsdam due to strong resistance from Soviet troops.
By and large, Wenck took pity on his soldiers.

[Msi]

I am concerned about the possibility of a significant internal discontent. The probability of this seems non-zero to me.

It can't be zero. But everything is quiet now. And it's good that it's quiet. People are busy with work now and there's enough work everywhere. There's no time to rebel, don't worry... and they pay good salaries and the people are clearly not starving.

[South American Golden Frog]

Total collapse of the VSU can occur as a result of the cumulative effect of fatigue from defeats.
About demography - it's funny. If we have a delicate situation, then Ruina has a catastrophic one.
In the end, Ukraine will not be able to hold the defense because it will simply get tired. And the more tired it gets, the faster their retreat will be. And if the front collapses completely, even the Dnieper will not be an obstacle.
And the Ruin has no time to change the situation in their favor. The more they fight, the more they die, and most importantly, their cities and industrial facilities are destroyed. And if the city is within range of the fabs and the barrel, then with a probability of 86% it will be impoverished.

[Plate]

Quote: South American Golden Frog

Total collapse of the VSU can occur as a result of the cumulative effect of fatigue from defeats.

Maybe. Ordinary fatigue can accumulate. But when will this happen? After how much time?

Quote: South American Golden Frog

About demography - it's funny. If we have a delicate situation, then Ruina has a catastrophic one.

The point is that neither we nor the Ukrainians will be able to make up for their losses in the near future. Only they, apparently, have accepted this and therefore are conducting their mobilization the way they are, but we still cannot throw people away, because we will still need them after the victory (and even more so after the defeat in case of one).

Quote: South American Golden Frog

And Ruina doesn't have time to change the situation in its favor.

Yes, yes. Although, of course, we must understand that by changing the situation in favor of Ukraine we mean changing the situation in the Western military-industrial complex. And there are guys working there. And again, a negative internal scenario for Russia cannot be ruled out.

[isv000]

Wow! Variations on the theme of negotiations from all sides and not a single iron remembered Russia's conditions for ending the war!

[Terenin]

Quote: isv000

Wow! Variations on the theme of negotiations from all sides and not a single iron remembered Russia's conditions for ending the war!

Everything is as always, the West says and hears only what it wants to say and hear.
It is important here that we remember our conditions.

[Prisoner]

This World Cup Oshnik needs to pack his suitcase, and he's still blabbering about some positions. The longer they fuss, the worse it will be for Bandera. Flag up your ass... flagpole.

[tralflot1832]

Press Secretary of the 47th President Donald Trump, Elizabeth Pipko, ex-model, 28 years old, relatives from Minsk.

[tralflot1832]

Here she looks prettier, she has everything.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

Here she looks prettier, she has everything.

Like a mariman, I love all the stupid women.
How I like them.

[Montezuma]

In addition to her model appearance, she also has literary achievements.

Pipko has published two books of poetry: Sweet Sixteen (2013) and About You (2018). In 2020, Post Hill Press published Pipko's book Finding My Place: Making My Parents' American Dream Come True.

Let's see what kind of press secretary she turns out to be.

[Terenin]

Quote: Montezuma

In addition to her model appearance, she also has literary achievements.

Pipko has published two books of poetry: Sweet Sixteen (2013) and About You (2018). In 2020, Post Hill Press published Pipko's book Finding My Place: Making My Parents' American Dream Come True.

Let's see what kind of press secretary she turns out to be.

Let's talk about her appearance. What a devil!
Ah, the American dream has thrown many people off American skyscrapers.

[Michael]

Quote: Terenin

Let's talk about appearance. What a beautiful devil.

Of course! But long hair makes me very wary.
I myself wore long hair in my youth and I know very well how much time you need to spend to keep it from getting tangled.
But, the rejection of long hair in girls happened for a completely different reason. During oral contact, a strand of hair simply cut the head in half!!!
I'm lying, I just damaged the mucous membrane with blood and it hurt.
Since then, the maximum is a bob.

[rotfuks]

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During oral contact, a strand of hair simply cut the head in half!!!
I'm lying, I just damaged the mucous membrane with blood and it hurts.

It's unclear how the hair from the head got there. Head hair usually doesn't cut heads in half. It's usually the pubic hair that does that, which is coarser and thicker.

[isv000]

Quote: Montezuma

Let's see what kind of press secretary she turns out to be.

After Domovyonok Kuzya and Psak-our-everything, this is simply some kind of miracle. If he also speaks literary language and doesn't get the seas mixed up, it would be great. At least he could look at a nice woman in the White House. Melania doesn't count, she is beyond competition.

[Montezuma]

Quote: isv000

At least there will be a nice woman to look at in the White House.

Well, when you remember the flounder, there's caries...

[isv000]

Quote: Montezuma

Quote: isv000

At least there will be a nice woman to look at in the White House.

Well, when you remember the flounder, there's caries...

Are you talking about Kharya Camel?

[Montezuma]

Quote: isv000

Are you talking about Kharya Camel?

If you're talking about Kamala Harris, then yes.

[carpenter]

Quote: tralflot1832

Here she is more beautiful, she has everything

And I don’t mind, Father Tikhon is right.

[K-50]

Kirby: White House believes Ukraine is not ready for talks with Russia due to 'weak positions'

Like they can become stronger with her?
How many more people must die before this latest nonsense is finally recognized as a failure?
But the pin dossies will make a lot of money on this.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: K-50

Like they can become stronger with her?

She is not a woman.

[K-50]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: K-50

Like they can become stronger with her?

She is not a woman.

Ruin?
Of course not a woman.
This is the territory of the brainwashed population, who still had some
The most conscious ones fled from these ruins earlier, without waiting for the collapse.

[Terenin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: K-50

Like they can become stronger with her?

She is not a woman.

She is a foolish woman.

[bambr731]

According to the Democrats, Kyiv’s position is now too weak, so Zelensky will not be able to speak from a “position of strength.”

A clown will never be able to talk to Russia from a "position of strength". Except in drug-induced dreams.

[carpenter]

Quote from bambr731

A clown will never be able to speak to Russia from a "position of strength".

Strength is in the country, not in the mind of the Jew.

[Terenin]

Quote: carpenter

Quote from bambr731

A clown will never be able to speak to Russia from a "position of strength".

Strength is in the country, not in the mind of the Jew.

As long as Jewish thoughts rule in this so-called country.

[Vasyan1971]

There is no expectation at this point that either side is ready to enter into negotiations,
— a White House spokesman said,

Well, well! It's practically a textbook example:
some don't want to, others can't...

[Terenin]

Quote: Vasyan1971

There is no expectation at this point that either side is ready to enter into negotiations,
— a White House spokesman said,

Well, well! It's practically a textbook example:
some don't want to, others can't...

Yeah ... Revolution has a beginning, but revolution has no end...

[lukash66]

Bury a couple more millions and the position will be strengthened.))

[Terenin]

Quote from: lukash66

Bury a couple more millions and the position will be strengthened.))

So far they have been very successful in burying. Exceeding the schedule.

[faterdom]

This is no longer called a weak position, but a gender-passive one.

[Just a cat]

You know, I was in a complete trance when Yugoslavia was being bombed and Russia was silent. For the first time I realized that a strong leader had come to Russia, when instead of a NATO military operation, a decision was made to inspect chemical weapons in Syria (if I'm not mistaken). And they still haven't found anything.
And now on the topic. Negotiations are always better than war, BUT we can't stop the SVO until the Ukrainians are completely cut off from the Black Sea and our troops reach the border with Transnistria. Yes, it will cost many deaths and blood on our side. But, otherwise, if we stop, our children and grandchildren will be washed in even more blood. It's like in the yard life of my youth, you yourself can wash yourself in blood, or even die, and to bow = to walk in toadies throughout life. That's the whole truth, personally for me.
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/8473363936988675733

[TermNachTer]

And so we can continue to tell stories until the last Bandarlog is finished.

[Free Island]

Farewell fart into a puddle from grandfather Kirby, who is leaving after the Self-propelled. Zelensky can only talk to Russia from a "crab" position, and who said that anyone would talk to him at all? Putin, if anyone hasn't noticed, is very scrupulous about observing the "letter" of international law, therefore Zelensky cannot be a participant in the negotiations on behalf of Ukraine, since legally he has not been the head of 404 for a long time. And this means that any signing of peace treaties, capitulations, self-liquidation, etc. by clown Zelensky will NOT have any legal force.

[sgr291158]

Does Kirby think that Ukraine can strengthen its position?

[Dutchman Michel]

Russia does not need negotiations, it can achieve all its necessary goals by military means

I always believed that negotiations are when you are on equal terms

[AS552000]

Well, any normal admiral would say something like that. And politicians love the idea of ​​"pisu - pisu" (peace to the world), "make love - stop war".

[Poruchik77]

That's right. Complete and unconditional surrender... the only thing that can save them.