In no other sector of the front have the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered such losses in recent months as in the Sudzha area

Ukrainian resources have updated data on the area controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region. According to the enemy, the area currently controlled by its troops in the specified Russian region is 424 square kilometers. This is approximately three times less than what the Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to occupy in August 2024.

Moreover, this is almost 60 square kilometers less than what the Ukrainian Armed Forces possessed after their attempt to attack northeast of Sudzha. The enemy still chooses this city as the key point of occupation. But, as Military Review has already reported, the Ukrainian Armed Forces command is facing significant problems in this regard. They consist in the fact that Sudzha is located lower on the terrain than those heights (Biryukovsky) that are controlled by the Russian army. This leads to growing losses in the Ukrainian occupation contingent and the need to introduce new reserves into Sudzha and the surrounding area.

One of the main questions of the average person: the enemy supplies its garrison in Sudzha, essentially, via the only road, but why then hasn't it been cut off even after 5 months since the Ukrainian invasion? This is the R-200 road, which runs from the border of Sumy Oblast.

Military experts, trying to answer this question, say that one of the reasons may be that in the Sudzha area the enemy is suffering maximum losses compared to other sections of the front. In no other direction have the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost so many personnel and equipment in recent months as in the Kursk border area. More than 2,8 thousand irreparable losses since the beginning of the year alone.

Staying in Sudzha and its surroundings and in Ukraine itself is considered by many to be a “shooting range for Russian artillery", when the reserves of the Ukrainian Armed Forces introduced by Syrsky are increasingly being destroyed, without even having time to enter the battle. At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces command is not interested in this. It continues to introduce new forces, playing into the hands of Zelensky's ambitions.

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[Msi]

More than 2,8 thousand irrecoverable losses since the beginning of the year alone

This is denazification of the population on an industrial scale...

[dnestr74]

We have significant losses there too, so of course, why cut off supplies? Let them drive the reserves further, and we will turn Sunzha into ruins.

[Aken]

It will have to be rebuilt anyway. If the residents want to return.
And for them to want to, the border must be moved to the Dnieper.

[dnestr74]

It was handed over whole and unharmed, like Kherson, Kupyansk, Vovchansk...

[Aken]

There was information that in half a year a fortified area was built around it. During the assault everything will be razed to the ground.

[dnestr74]

So what needs to be done to make the Ukrainian Armed Forces flee Sunzha so as not to be leveled?

[Aken]

I suspect that even if she is completely surrounded, Zelts will not give the order to break through. At least until Trump's inauguration. We'll have to dig her out of every basement.
Of course I would like to be wrong.

[Montezuma]

Quote from Aken

I suspect that even if she is completely surrounded, Zelts will not give the order to break through. At least until Trump's inauguration. We'll have to dig her out of every basement.
Of course I would like to be wrong.

Judging by the current actions of Zelets and Syrsky, this is how it will be. Unless the VSU members themselves make the right decision about the futility of their "feat" in the name of who knows what.

[Aken]

It depends on who gets abandoned in Sudzha.
I believe that it will be something between the elite (it's a pity) and the scum (they will run away), and certainly natives of the Left Bank - Donbass, Kherson, Zaporozhye. In short, those who have already been doomed to slaughter so that their embittered relatives will remain in Russia.

[Metallurg_2]

Deliver the required number of chlorine cylinders to the site, and they themselves will climb out of the basements.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Deliver the required number of chlorine cylinders to the site

We have renounced the use of chemical weapons. And, quite a long time ago, if that matters.

[Metallurg_2]

Compliance with international norms only makes sense if all contracting parties comply with them.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Compliance with international norms only makes sense if all contracting parties comply with them.

I understand, but - no, not always. Sometimes it makes sense to show that the enemy does not observe them, but we do. At least so that the main part of the world thinks about who is lying.

[Metallurg_2]

This main part of the world may care, but this main part of the world does not make decisions. And so far they are made by those who get pissed in the eyes - and for them it is God's dew.
And it will be like this until the dollar turns into waste paper. And that's a problem for now. And the Yankees obviously won't give up the dollar without a big war.

[Sergio Vo]

Sudzha! Sunzha is a river in Chechnya!

[asher]

And what was so modestly listed. Steps of goodwill in 2022 led to the fact that they left so much that neither the mind can understand nor the yardstick can measure. And yes, they left everything more or less intact. Although standing a couple of dozen kilometers from Kyiv and not smashing the nest of Nazis - that's our way. Such truly Russian primordial generosity to enemies and stinginess to their own people.

[dimon642]

And that the country's leadership is Russian. What's interesting is something else: how can we surrender our territories so quickly that we then have to liberate them long and hard. And the most interesting thing is that the enemy quickly creates fortifications.

[Berezin]

Yes, it seems there was no goodwill in 2022. Neither near Kyiv nor in other places. But there were consequences of beautiful, but not seriously supported breakthroughs into the defense of an enemy who did not expect this. As soon as the Ukies came to their senses, we had to urgently retreat. There was a clear underestimation of the situation. And not only the military aspects, but also the political ones (they did not wait for us with flowers in the cities and villages of Ukraine). But maybe it was right that we retreated and did not end up in mass encirclement cauldrons.

[border]

is this from Sudzha to Dnepr???? Do you know how many km it is??? From Novotavolzhanka. Shebekino to St. Saltov in 7 months we can't move it yet. We've covered 10 km. and another 17.....

[Aken]

Of course, I know. But if we leave the border unchanged, in 10 years our borderland will be empty.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Hello, why should the border be moved to the Dnieper?
it is not clear

to the Tisza, to the Bug and stop in the area of ​​the Great Bridges

[Aken]

We need to leave a reservation where all sorts of scum will flee from Russia. Especially from Novorossiya.
Otherwise they will live with us and cause mischief.

[Berezin]

I agree with you, Aken, but how can we define the borders of this Reservation? And also how can we isolate it from further friendly help from the West?

[Aken]

The borders are along the borders of the regions of the USSR. It is difficult to imagine anything else here.
As for assistance, it's quite simple. A reservation surrounded by unfriendly states - Hungary, Slovakia, Belarus, Polish Galicia - will no longer be of strategic interest. And especially considering the impending collapse of Europe.

[Berezin]

In principle, dear Aken, this largely coincides with my position. In the West, return approximately to the borders before the Great Patriotic War. This will largely neutralize Europe. Chernigov, Sumy, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Odessa - in the Russian Federation (quite possibly with their real consent). The rest is what you call the Reservation.

[Aken]

Reservation minus the Polish Eastern Borderlands and Transcarpathia. And let them decide for themselves who will get Transcarpathia - the Hungarians or the Slovaks.

[Frank Muller]

Let's go straight to the Oder, at least. Wasn't "Polonia" once part of the Russian Empire? But what should we do with these territories, populated by fierce enemies? It's a rhetorical question, you know.

[guest]

Quote from Aken

And for them to want to, the border must be moved to the Dnieper.

And also to the Dniester and Danube.

[Aken]

The Dniester and the Danube - definitely.

[private person]

And for them to want to, the border must be moved to the Dnieper.

The border will be pushed back, but the people who will remain are far from loyal to Russia and harbor a grudge.

[Aken]

Here they are in Kukuev. For permanent residence,

[Nastia makarova]

it's almost a ruin now anyway

[hagen]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

it's almost a ruin now anyway

Are you talking about Sunzha? Which is in Chechnya? What happened there? I think if you want to write, you need to be careful and precise in your names and definitions so as not to mislead the people reading you.

[Dilettante grandfather]

We have significant losses there too.

A simple question - how much exactly? Chatter is not like lifting sacks. Please provide specifics, numbers. Or - go to the CIPSO for a new consultation.

[Karelian]

We will never know the figure. But look at the regional sources, the press, Internet sites. Not prohibited, open

[dimon642]

Probably to help the Central Intelligence Agency they surrendered these territories to the enemy.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Probably to help the Central Intelligence Agency they surrendered these territories to the enemy.

Probably not. Read my question carefully. If a person claims something, he must have specific numbers. If he doesn't, he is either a liar or an enemy.

[dimon642]

Okay, no one can say anything specific about the numbers. But recently there was an article about the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, where ours wrote that the losses of the attackers are higher than those of those on the defensive. And how is it that our losses are lower during the offensive. I have already asked the question on this site where are the 325 thousand mobilized, where
more than 400 thousand signed the contract in 2023, where more than 400 thousand signed the contract in 2024.
The guy disappeared in the first battle in the forest belt last year. He was not among the prisoners, his body was not found. He was declared missing in action and this was during our offensive.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Okay, no one can say anything specific about the numbers.

What do you mean - well, no one can?! I quote from the comment:

dnestr74
(Alexey)

We have significant losses there too,

.
I asked him for specifics. He claims that our losses there are also considerable. Let him name a figure, or he'll go and whine to the CIPSO. What does the article have to do with it?!

[dnestr74]

I am answering from the words of our contract soldiers and mobilized soldiers who returned from there due to injury or on leave.

[Dilettante grandfather]

What does "from his words" have to do with it? I have a matchmaker there, but I don't start asserting something from his words?

[dnestr74]

You see, there is only one matchmaker, but when there are several people, then you can form a picture, the dialogue with you falls into sophistry.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Actually, he is not alone there. I know other SVO participants. And I communicate. But, I repeat, even from the words of two or three dozen people, it is simply stupid to assert anything: they see only their section of the front, and a very small one at that.
And one more thing. You can't assert anything based on someone else's words. This is from the OBS agency series, One Granny Said. If you assert something, provide evidence. Official, recognized. If you can't provide it, don't assert it. You can express your opinion, but it's an opinion, and not assert anything if you don't have evidence. Unproven assertions are deliberate lies.

[dnestr74]

I have expressed my opinion, we are having a free discussion here, not a court session, so shove your terms about unproven statements somewhere far away.

[Dilettante grandfather]

We have significant losses there too., so of course, why cut off the supply, let them drive the reserves further, and we will turn Sunzha into ruins.

Where is the opinion here?! I see the assertion that we are suffering "considerable losses". Where in your statement does it say that this is an opinion?!

[dnestr74]

Once again, if I think so, I write so, this is in fact an exchange of opinions on the article, so go and rant again about the difference between a statement and an opinion on a philological forum, for example.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Learn to express your thoughts correctly. Here they will simply give you minuses and write back. But on the street, in a live dialogue, you can get into trouble for lying.
I see no point in continuing the dialogue.

[dnestr74]

Teach yours to teach (c).
You can get it in the neck, for what lie? I lied that we have significant losses? So refute it? How can my words be specified in numbers? What is significant? 100 people a week or 10 a day?
And if you try to beat people, you will end up behind bars.

[Rakitin]

Well, here you go, some indirect data: from January 1 to January 10, 2025, in my Saratov region, according to local media, 40 fellow countrymen who died in the SVO were buried. The region's population is 1,6% of the Russian population, so it's easy to calculate that at least 10 Russian soldiers died in the SVO zone in the 2025 days of January 2500 across the country. I believe that half of them are in the Kursk region, where the most intense fighting is currently taking place. So they have 2800 against our 1250. That's how it is...
You can see the texture, for example, here:
https://www.vzsar.ru/news/2025/01/07/svo-nazvany-imena-esche-pyati-pogibshih-saratovcev.html

[Dilettante grandfather]

I understand, but I'm not interested in indirect data. In things like wars, mathematics doesn't work.

[dnestr74]

What are you interested in? No one will give you exact calculations.

[Dilettante grandfather]

What are you interested in? No one will give you exact calculations.

They will. After the end of the SVO. It is pointless to count anything now, especially using any indirect data. This is a deliberately incorrect calculation.

[dnestr74]

The naivety of youths feeds (C)

[hagen]

Quote: dnestr74

We have significant losses there too.

This is not small, excuse me, how much? Are we really doing something with Sunzha? And why is Kadyrov silent?

[Nexcom]

In no other direction have the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost so many personnel and equipment in recent months as in the Kursk border area. More than 2,8 thousand irreparable losses since the beginning of the year alone. The presence in Sudzha and the surrounding area is considered by many to be a "shooting range for Russian artillery", when the Ukrainian Armed Forces reserves introduced by Syrsky are increasingly being destroyed,

Do they want to say that all this will continue in the Kursk region? Will they continue to allow reserves to be sent to the Kakely?

[topol717]

Quote: Nexcom

Do they want to say that all this will continue in the Kursk region? Will they continue to allow reserves to be sent to the Kakely?

If it allows to destroy more effectively, then why not? What difference does it make in the DPR or Kursk region, and if there is no difference, then why pay more?

[Nexcom]

formally yes... it's just that someone from the General Staff said that "in two weeks" (c) like we'll clear everything of the enemy in the Kursk region. Many times two weeks have passed already... it turns out they changed their minds? It would have been better if they hadn't said that then...

[border]

Promising doesn't mean marrying!!!! The sanitary belt has been promised for two years now and the cart is still in the same place!!!!

[My address]

And there are plenty of such so-called "ordinary people" in the VO. And we also need to take into account that most of them have a military education. And they have questions, including why our people are engaged in "squeezing out" instead of destruction, which is what they taught us.

[Vita vko]

As one of the "ordinary people" with a military education, I have only one explanation: politics, or rather the interests of a group of oligarchs who are fighting for power on both sides. Otherwise, no military doctrines, combat regulations or instructions can explain the restrained actions of our troops. Apparently, the SVO was deliberately driven into a strict framework. It is unclear what preferences Russia received for this, but if the public does not know about them, then they are not for everyone.

[Valery Mamai]

It is impossible to explain the restrained actions of our troops by any military doctrines, combat regulations or instructions
These are the actions of our troops.
How do civilians live in the occupation zone? Who provides them with food, heat? How many are there?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Vita VKO

It is impossible to explain the restrained actions of our troops by any military doctrines, combat regulations or instructions

And what do you mean by restraint?
Just in case, there is an article being discussed here about how “in no other sector of the front have the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered such losses in recent months as in the Sudzha region.”

[guest]

Quote: Vita VKO

As one of the "ordinary people" with a military education, I have only one explanation: politics, or more precisely, the interests of a group of oligarchs who are fighting for power on both sides.

Of course, I don’t have a military education, but I completely agree.

[topol717]

Quote: My address

And they have questions, including why our people are engaged in “squeezing out” instead of destruction, which is what they taught us.

And what is the difference between squeezing out and destroying? The enemy always has a choice to retreat or be destroyed, so he chooses to retreat. Our people call it squeezing out.

[Montezuma]

Quote from: topol717

What is the difference between squeezing out and destroying?

I agree, nothing. Squeezing out, defeating, destroying - in the end, the main idea remains to reduce the number of the invading enemy group by all means.

[dimon642]

We were taught something, but the current military leaders forgot what they were taught and achieved success in sliding on the parquet.

[yuriy55]

One of the main questions of the average person: the enemy supplies its garrison in Sudzha, essentially, along the only road, but why then has it not been cut off even 5 months after the start of the Ukrainian invasion?

You yourself answered:

The presence in Sudzha and the surrounding area and in Ukraine itself is considered by many to be a “shooting range for Russian artillery,” when the reserves of the Ukrainian Armed Forces introduced by Syrsky are increasingly being destroyed, without even having time to enter the battle.

There are such traps for rats - the entrance is free, but there is no exit...

[Montezuma]

Quote: yuriy55

There are rat traps like this - free entry, but no exit

Unfortunately, the exit is still valid, as is the entrance. My "philistine" opinion on why the enemy has not yet been routed in the Kursk region - remember that one of the goals of the invasion was to force the RF Armed Forces to pull back forces from other areas where a successful offensive is underway, but if they pulled back anything, it was in small quantities, because the offensive continues. The fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have reserves to attempt to break through the border in another place has also been mentioned more than once, which means that the Russian Armed Forces should also hold reserves to stop a possible breakthrough. All these circumstances slow down the operation to destroy the invading group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It's a matter of time, and the end result is unchanged. Again, this is only my purely personal "philistine" opinion.

[RuAbel]

A common question - a propaganda answer, "it's easier to kill them this way." Like, let's let them get closer? Then let's lure them deeper, stretch the flanks and logistics, it will be even easier to hit the enemy.
So why hasn't the command of the North group of forces closed the gap in the border yet? Can anyone give a reasonable answer?

[topol717]

Quote from Ruabel

So why hasn't the command of the North group of forces closed the gap in the border yet? Can anyone give a reasonable answer?

You were given an answer, are you not satisfied with it? Well, as they say, that's your problem.

[RuAbel]

No way, these are OUR problems(

[nik-mazur]

Quote from Ruabel

Then let's lure them deeper, stretch the flanks and logistics

Why, if the meat grinder is already working?
Again, no one lured the Ukrainian army into this meat grinder - they barged into it themselves.

[RuAbel]

Then, to make the meat grinder even more meat grinder, if this is such a brilliant military idea.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from Ruabel

to make the meat grinder even more meat grinder

If you increase the size of the meat grinder, the amount of meat will not change anyway. So why improve anything if everything works anyway?

Quote from Ruabel

if this is such a brilliant military idea

So, first of all, it is Ukrainian military thought that we took advantage of.

[klev72]

Victory in war is not the seizure of territories, but the extermination of enemy soldiers. I am glad that many now see all the advantages that we received from the trap in Kursk in many areas of confrontation. Eternal memory to those who fell at the hands of the enemy. Whether such a development of events was a calculated action/inaction on our part is not to be known now.

[Montezuma]

Quote: klev72

I am glad that many now see all the advantages that we received from the trap in Kursk region in many areas of confrontation.

Do you seriously believe that allowing the August breakthrough of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the Kursk region was a planned trap? What a trap, at the cost of civilian lives, their mass exodus from inhabited areas and the surrender of developed territory. And what advantages are you talking about? The biggest advantage would be the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces group during the breakthrough of the border, and what is happening now is work on mistakes, and very annoying and costly ones at that.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Montezuma

allowing the Ukrainian Armed Forces to break through into the Kursk region in August was a planned trap

Of course not. But if the Ukrainian army created a trap for itself and got itself into it up to its ears, then why not take advantage of it? All these forces would have to be destroyed anyway, but in less convenient conditions.

Quote: Montezuma

The biggest plus would be the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces group during the border breakthrough

Well, yes, but it would have been a small vanguard, and the main forces would have remained safe and sound and would have been used somewhere else.

[Montezuma]

Quote from: nik-mazur

But if the Ukrainian army created a trap for itself and got itself into it up to its ears, then why not take advantage of it?

I agree with this. Since the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is already a fact, we must fully utilize the enemy's desire to make any sacrifice for the sake of media effect. The main thing, in my opinion, is that there should be no "at any cost" or "by a certain date" on the part of the Russian Armed Forces. And if Zelensky wants "to the last Ukrainian", then let him continue self-destruction.

Quote from: nik-mazur

but this would have been a small vanguard, and the main forces would have remained whole, unharmed and would have been used somewhere else.

My opinion is that they should have been used and accordingly destroyed in any other place, but on the territory of Ukraine.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Montezuma

let them be used and accordingly destroyed in any other place, but on the territory of Ukraine

Even with greater effort and losses?

[Montezuma]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Even with greater effort and losses?

We are not given the opportunity to know this, since the real situation turned out to be completely different.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Montezuma

We are not given to know this

Well, why not? Objectively assessing the situation in the Kursk region, we have a very convenient position - the enemy is surrounded from three sides, supplies are on the short haul, the rear is nearby, the aircraft do not have to fly far. The only minus is our territory. The enemy has it the other way around - the position is practically surrounded, no fortifications, no air defense, the rear is far away, supplies are on one road. At the same time, although there are no prospects, he does not want to leave and cannot. The only plus is our territory.
Where else will you find such conditions?

[klev72]

I seriously believe that we are not the General Staff and the Commander-in-Chief, so that we can understand all the subtleties of what is happening based on the available information. And do not get emotional, it was not for nothing that I pointed out that I honor the memory of the dead, anticipating such questions, as well as the actions or inactions of the leadership are also hidden from me, I wrote the same. We agree in what we wrote only wanting the physical extermination of enemies. As for the leadership of the country, this is @ertovsky a cynical event in essence, however, but everyone wants to seem better, of course. And in addition to waving a saber, there is also diplomatic work, economic, intelligence, etc., etc. In addition, the historical time period of the event is important. My post is about all this. The guilty were punished, conclusions are being made, plus the zealous extermination of the color of the Banderites is right there.

[guest]

Quote: klev72

Victory in war is not the seizure of territories, but extermination of enemy soldiers.

But first of all, it must be exterminated on any territory except one’s own.

[Evgeniy68]

However, it was from there that the offensive was going on, with a large number of troops and armored vehicles. Somehow it doesn't work out to be a shooting gallery.

[Mapping]

It would be nice if it were like that with the only supply route. But there is a nuance. The city will have to be stormed.

[Prisoner]

"More than 2,8 thousand irretrievable losses since the beginning of the year alone." (c) Direct descendant of Judah Zelensky paid for the entrance ticket to the Rammstein club with the lives of these "independent" morons. And he will send more and more to slaughter. Otherwise, how can you make "Greater Israel" out of Ukraine, since the EU does not accept it? At first, I was surprised at what kind of genetic product "Jew Banderas" are, why the top of the Nazi "Right Sector" is all non-Ukrainians. Then Zelensky let it slip and everything fell into place.

[Sergey Sergey_4]

we kill each other to please the Anglo-Saxons... when we win and see what it cost us, it will be WWII in a light version... there hasn't been such a meat grinder for a long time...

[guest]

Russian Armed Forces began storming Sudzha from the east
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2025/01/10/vs-rossii-nachali-shturm-sudzhi-s-vostoka-rezident

[Angel Dymkov]

That's how it is! When P. printed Kuchma's book "Ukraine is Russia" in Moscow, already then Hannibal of Modernity was planning a fat shooting gallery under Sudzha?
https://topwar.ru/49314-ukraina-vyvezla-iz-kryma-voennoy-tehniki-na-1-mlrd.html

[guest]

Our troops liberated the village of Nikolaevo-Daryino in the Kursk region
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2025/01/11/nashi-voyska-osvobodili-selo-nikolaevo-darino-v-kurskoy-oblasti-shot