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Mr. "Yes" about the collapse of the USSR, or the series of achievements of the ex-minister

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В stories countries (in its different epochs) happened to various political characters whose activities caused, to put it mildly, questions. The concentration of such figures in the period when 15 of individual states appeared on the world map instead of the Soviet Union was, perhaps, one of the highest in the entire Russian historical reality. And one of the political characters who added his interest to this concentration was a man like Andrei Kozyrev.




Fate gave this person the right to defend the interests of Russia in the international arena as head of the foreign affairs agency at the moment when she (Russia) was, let's say, open to all political winds. How did Mr. Kozyrev dispose of his right? What foreign policy course was built by this person? Let's try to deal with these complex issues.

Andrey Kozyrev took up his ministerial post in October 1990 of the year, becoming the youngest (39 years) head of the country's foreign affairs agency in all recent years. Only here we need to immediately make a reservation: Mr. Kozyrev, who until October 1990 worked at the USSR Foreign Ministry, becomes not the foreign minister of the USSR, but the head of the RSFSR MFA. As Kozyrev himself says in his “post-ministerial” interviews, the work at the Foreign Ministry of the RSFSR could not be called fully foreign policy. It consisted practically on 100% in establishing contacts with subjects of other states: for example, cultural exchange between the RSFSR and one of the federal states of Germany or some US state. Kozyrev himself calls the level of such work: “drink beer” with Western colleagues ...

At the same time, we should not forget that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a bright background for “drinking beer”, because at the time of 1990, the country was at one of the stages of the most powerful political tectonics. The new reform team tried to create for the growing on the ruins of the Union of Russia the image of a great democratic friend of the West, who, in the opinion of the reformers themselves, ceased to be an enemy both for the RSFSR and for the USSR as a whole. The reform aspirations were based on a very prosaic idea: we recognize a great democratic love for the West in general and its political preferences in particular, and the West extrapolates its internal principles of politics to the territory of new Russia, taking it (Russia) under its wing.

Representatives of the reform movement, among whom was Minister Kozyrev (according to Kozyrev), saw the relations of Russia and the West as such that both from one and the other side, citizens and authorities began to feel that they were friends and partners. The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the RSFSR in this connection presents itself, no less, the main ideological inspirer of the United States of America to feel in Russia a friend, comrade and even a close relative, and Russia to feel such a friend in the United States. At the same time, the calculation was made on something similar to the implementation of the Marshall plan only for Russia: they say, the authorities of the new Russia completely describe in the final and unconditional rejection of any ideas other than those that are convenient to the United States, and in exchange for this, the same United States with their partners in the "democratic coalition" they are beginning to actively introduce funds into Russia, turning our country into paradise.

To get approval from the Big Brother, the Foreign Ministry of the new Russia conducted such activities that hardly fit into the framework of the activities of the foreign ministry of a sovereign state. One of the examples of such activity can be considered a complete agreement with the policy of NATO expansion to the East, which was actively promoted by Washington.
One of Kozyrev's quotes about this:

I thought that first we need to build new relations with NATO, and then let them expand. But I was not against expansion in principle - it’s absurd to oppose this.


In this regard, a reasonable question arises: but, excuse me, if Russia for the United States and the United States for Russia are positioned by the Foreign Ministry of Russia as the most important allies, for what purpose does NATO require expansion towards the Russian borders? .. It turns out that one of the parties initially plans there was no pacifying friendship. Which one of the parties? - the question is more than strange, considering that in the government circles of the Russian Federation there were people who themselves were asking for friendship on any conditions convenient for the United States ...

Mr. Kozyrev, trying to justify the game in one (Russian) gate, outlined in the first half of 90-s, declares that the United States, expanding NATO, was simply afraid of the possibility of a communist revenge in Russia, the presence of another voice in our country, an alternative view of its future . They say that the Americans needed additional time to assess Russia's desire (or Kozyrev’s desire) to become an actual branch of the West. Washington, according to Kozyrev, did not consider it necessary to destroy the USSR, because he was accustomed to the existence of his opponent in the East, who, after Gorbachev came to power, became truly predictable for the West ... But the appearance on the world map of a dozen new states, in 4- X of which (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan) remained the Soviet nuclear weapon, it added a headache for the USA, which Mr. Kozyrev himself, counting on the “correct” recommendations of the representatives of the US State Department, and tried to minimize.

If we analyze the words of Andrei Kozyrev, then we can come to an amazing conclusion: the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the state (1990-1996) actually makes it clear that the Soviet Union was destroyed, mainly with the active participation of supporters of this destruction within the Union itself. This time. And two - that if the United States so advocated the spread of democratic institutions on the territory of the USSR (or the former USSR), then why was Washington so puzzled by the presence in Russia of alternative opinions on the development of its political life - isn’t this the salt of democracy ?. .

So, analysis of the words of Mr. Kozyrev, leads to the fact that the US did not want to destroy anything (they allegedly wanted pragmatic relations at the level of “you are my enemy, but I understand you”), and the country was destroyed by certain forces from the inside and its bloodied corpse was thrown under feet of the West ... They say, look: we have destroyed ourselves, so that you now fill our skin with dry and clean straw and put up our democratic achievements in the museum. "Razrushentsov", and truth, there was more than enough inside the country ...

Such destruction was justified by transferring the country to the rails of freedom and democracy under the banner of the West, which Mr. Kozyrev himself first saw in 1975 in the form of an American supermarket, in which ordinary American citizens acquired numerous goods. That visit to the American store during one of the trips abroad and served as a starting point for the young Andrei Kozyrev for his “moderate dissidence”. The dissidence was strange, after all, after that trip, Andrei Vladimirovich did not refuse to work for Soviet diplomacy and generally tried to take everything from life to the maximum.
Dissidence, working in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and not speaking out against an objectionable policy, you will agree, is very strange for a person who is trying to position himself as a defender of Russian interests.

If this protection of interests on the part of Mr. Kozyrev really took place, then how can we explain the unconditional support of Yeltsin’s decision to disperse the country's Supreme Soviet in 1993? Then Andrei Kozyrev not only supported the idea of ​​overclocking the Armed Forces, but also expressed himself in the spirit that Boris Yeltsin delayed with this decision ...

In fact, there is no mystery here, and this support expressed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs can be explained very simply, except that Kozyrev’s expressed patriotism here doesn’t smell like that. The Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR (later RF) 1990-1993 is the body that was elected in a truly democratic way for the first time in the long years of existence of the Armed Forces Institute itself. Various political forces tried to defend their positions in it. It would seem that the triumph of Western-style democracy: the people themselves elected their representatives in power, who should participate in governing the country.

At the same time, again referring to Kozyrev’s words, a situation appears when the United States was not satisfied with the presence of various political forces in the new Russia, one of which actively advocated the reconstruction of the Soviet Union. Again - an incident ... Kozyrev contradicts himself. Why was the US so opposed to the presence of democratic pluralism of opinions in the new Russia and did not want to see people in the Supreme Council who were widely spread about the possibility of a great Soviet restoration if they themselves advocated the existence of a “predicted adversary” in the form of the USSR (according to Andrei Vladimirovich) ?. It turns out that Kozyrev’s judgment that no one in Washington thought of destroying the USSR is a delusion (or, frankly, a big lie). If you didn’t think, then why did you support the shooting of parliament from tanks in 1993? Note: there is no hysteria in the American press about the fact that in Russia there is an anti-democratic lawlessness on authoritarian Yeltsin principles ... No! The aggressive interference in the work of the Russian parliament by the forces gathered by President Yeltsin was explained to American citizens as a continuation of the struggle for freedom and democracy against the “communist gang” that was seated in the Supreme Council building.

So, then, the United States was still delighted with the collapse of the USSR, and wanted to see a country on the ruins that would be entirely subject to the decisions of Washington. And Andrei Vladimirovich Kozyrev and others like him did everything so that Russia would turn into the 51 state of the USA with a miserable likeness of domestic authorities. Who would doubt ... And, admittedly, Mr. Kozyrev played his role just brilliantly ...

Surprisingly, Kozyrev’s work as Russian foreign minister often surprised even the Americans themselves. Many of the authorities later expressed their words about the work of Andrei Kozyrev, sincerely not understanding how to conduct foreign policy in such a toothless manner, actually sagging under the interests of another state.

From the memoirs of Richard Nixon (ex-US President) about the meeting with Kozyrev:

At a time when I was the vice-president of the United States and then the president, I wanted everyone to know that I was a “son of a bitch” and would fight to the end for the interests of America. And this (Kozyrev), when the Soviet Union has just collapsed, when a new Russia needs to be defended and strengthened, wants to show everyone what a wonderful, pleasant person he is.


Nixon expressed these words after answering the question of the former US president about Russia's interests, said he was ready to listen to the ideas of the former and current US authorities about what they would like to see the national interests of the Russian Federation ... They say our interests will be as you want them to be. It is difficult to say how this relates to the desire to build a new Russia.

The ex-minister himself answers this question in one of his interviews. He declares that all his desires to move closer to the United States were necessary for the United States from impoverished Russia to make a kind of Canada ... New Marshall Plan (now for the restoration of Russia).

However, Kozyrev himself admits that the USA has thrown him (and all of Russia), going only to allocate humanitarian aid and loans with impressive interest rates. Like, he wanted it better ... True, even after that Kozyrev blames not himself at all, but those who prevented him from pursuing pro-American policies. In particular, the famous Belovezhsk agreements, according to the ex-minister, were prepared by him and his associates only as a new agreement on the transformation of the USSR into a new union, but Boris Yeltsin made a mistake by bringing the letter of Empress Catherine II with him and trying to quote how she (Empress) took the Ukrainian and Belarusian peoples "under their hand". Like, everything would be fine, and the USSR would unite almost all former Soviet republics on a new democratic basis, but Yeltsin's trick spoiled everything, scaring the neighbors with a wave of "Great Russian imperialism." As a result, a statement on the CIS was signed. Only about the CIS ... At the same time, Kozyrev does not say where the other agreement came from, and who and why in general gave Yeltsin a document from two hundred years ago, which so frightened all those who had gathered ... That Yeltsin decided to withdraw into historical reflections about the fate of Russia during an epochal meeting in Belarus - honestly, it is hard to believe.

The expansion of NATO, the Belovezhsky "incident", support for the dispersal of the Supreme Council - this is only part of the "achievements" of Andrei Kozyrev "for the good of Russia." But there is also a vote for the introduction of sanctions against Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) in 1992, preparation of decisions on the transfer of Russian territory to a number of neighboring states (including China), agreements on the closure of Russian military bases around the world ( from Estonia to Cuba), work to promote the interests of American companies during the barbarous privatization of the start of 90, strange agreements with the Norwegian side on the territories of the Barents Sea.

Russians continue to evaluate all these “achievements” years after the end of Andrei Vladimirovich’s foreign policy career. At the same time, the former minister himself claims that Russia did not understand his good ideas, and the corrupting influence of the West can only be seen by those who have an inferiority complex ...

If so, then it turns out that the majority of Russian people have problems with this complex, because the very last influence came to us not only in the form of supermarkets with shelves littered with goods, but in the form of dirty slurry of cultural and moral alienation.
Andrei Vladimirovich himself, naturally, doesn’t blame him for anything: what to do, since the people got so close - only notorious ... E-eh ... If it were not for our complex, you would have already been 51-m state of the USA.

Quote from Andrei Kozyrev:

... I think that there is no other human interest besides living well. And they live well in the West. Look at the countries with a market economy and a democratic system - these are the countries in which everyone could live ... The whole Russian aristocracy, merchants, intellectuals - they all lived in Western Europe. This is not by chance. All the rest is demagogy for the unfortunate. If you do not have money to buy a villa on the southern coast of France, then you begin to write a fairy tale that you do not need it, you live here, in Aziop.


This, perhaps, is the whole point of the Kozyrev ministerial mission, clearly patriotic, clearly constructive, clearly benevolent ...
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  1. pinecone
    pinecone 22 March 2013 07: 58
    40
    Rare bastard.
    1. Fox
      Fox 22 March 2013 08: 44
      13
      Quote: pinecone
      Rare bastard.

      no, not a rare thing .... there are a lot of them in the Duma, in power, in the organs. The most interesting thing is that the local bandos, their children, did not send their children abroad to study, but to give birth to their wives. "Everything was confused in the Oblonskys' house ..."
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 22 March 2013 09: 15
        +9
        Quote: Fox
        no, not rare .... they are full in the Duma, in power, in the organs

        Like dirt on the road on an autumn day.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 22 March 2013 12: 16
          +5
          Quote: baltika-18
          Like dirt on the road on an autumn day.

          Better to say: like mud on a rainy field on a rainy day.


          Where is this mister "YES" now, who will tell you?
          1. Shkodnik65
            Shkodnik65 22 March 2013 13: 31
            +3
            So this pad ... eh in Russia ???????? And still not planted ??????? It was a sinful thing to assume that he was somewhere in the States, together with Kalugin, and other such "champions of democracy and Western values", was vacationing in Miami ... Although now, our leaders consider it good form to reward such workers. Gorby - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, EBN - a monument in his homeland ... Oh, well, at least someone with a camera to reward !!!!!! angry
          2. Gari
            Gari 22 March 2013 15: 31
            +1
            quote = Papakiko] Where is this Mr. "YES" now, who will tell you? [/ quote]
            ... I somehow believe that there is no other human interest than to live well. And they live well in the West.
            Itself also prompts, for the good of whom the bastard worked there probably lives
          3. Garrin
            Garrin 22 March 2013 15: 44
            +5
            Quote: Papakiko

            Where is this mister "YES" now, who will tell you?

            Why are you interested in? Ready to make a feasible contribution.
          4. Urrry
            Urrry 22 March 2013 21: 02
            +1
            I recently saw him on TV - he spoke to students at some type of lecture: laughing crookedly, he hunted fables from various "funny episodes" related to Russia's international relations when he was a minister ... gives the impression of a bright representative of "office plankton", the purpose of being at whose work only jokes to seek out and imitate the process of working with "fig in your pocket"
          5. Ascetic
            Ascetic 22 March 2013 23: 43
            +3
            Quote: Papakiko
            Where is this mister "YES" now, who will tell you?


            Vice President and Head of the East European Division of the American Pharmaceutical Company ICN Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
            1. Garrin
              Garrin 22 March 2013 23: 58
              +2
              Quote: Ascetic
              Vice President and Head of the East European Division of the American Pharmaceutical Company ICN Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

              That is, it continues to genocide us.
    2. Smersh Put
      Smersh Put 23 March 2013 13: 17
      -1
      Putin and Chubais are "worthy" successors, Judas Kozyrev and Yeltsman!
  2. redwolf_13
    redwolf_13 22 March 2013 08: 02
    16
    Another surname in the list "Enemy of the People". am
    History remembers everything. And who does not punish the people that will punish LIFE.
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 22 March 2013 12: 43
      13
      Yes, I remember this "snake", I really didn't even know how to talk, but all the time, mumbled something, muttered to myself! in one word - Yeltsin's bitch tribe!
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 22 March 2013 13: 03
        12
        Kozyrev is a prominent representative of the 5th column of traitors in Russia. "Sex from a cheap eatery", with an eternal expression on his face "what do you want?" Causes only dislike and disgust. And such, oh God, run Russia!
      2. laurbalaur
        laurbalaur 22 March 2013 14: 04
        +3
        Yes, and Yeltsin loved him for thumping like a shoemaker. Erysipelas was on TV, red as a tomato!
  3. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 22 March 2013 08: 14
    10
    Recently, the bastards who had a hand in the destruction of the USSR have been suspiciously stepping up! It’s necessary to hang at least one! And best of all. And for the eggs!
    1. alexng
      alexng 22 March 2013 12: 05
      +2
      Why hang up? Nodo just tear off the Faberge so that they no longer multiply, and everything immediately falls into place, since no one will perceive their squeaky voice. bully
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 March 2013 15: 27
        +3
        Quote: alexneg
        just tear off Faberge so that they no longer breed
        No, colleague, this is not an option, the tumor has already given extensive metastases. How many of them have come out. As a compromise, I propose to hang up on Faberge. And do not shoot!
  4. bap063
    bap063 22 March 2013 08: 30
    +2
    So you can’t leave anything, you have to ask everyone, for everything and from this exa too!
  5. radio operator
    radio operator 22 March 2013 08: 31
    +5
    Andrei Kozyrev did not remember anything good, unfortunately.
  6. Sarus
    Sarus 22 March 2013 08: 43
    +6
    To deprive him of his pension .. He does not have the right to receive help from the country that he frankly threw .. Let the West pay for his existence ..
    Confiscate all property.
    I would not only do this to him, but to all those who signed obviously bad agreements and made absolutely strange concessions.
  7. lav566
    lav566 22 March 2013 09: 00
    10
    The scary thing is that now the second person in the Kremlin is the same casel!
  8. ed65b
    ed65b 22 March 2013 09: 17
    +6
    Even comments are not written about Kozyr. Toady and asshole. These are the "second" or even "sixth" who carried the foam to the watered Olympus, and today we have what we have. Shevardnadze donated a piece of the sea and lives in Moscow happily ever after.
  9. erix-xnumx
    erix-xnumx 22 March 2013 09: 37
    +1
    On the count of this traitor.
  10. smel
    smel 22 March 2013 10: 05
    +1
    A complete scoundrel .. And as is customary with us - did not answer for anything. In a normal power, it would have already rotted in a cage. And his children would bear the stigma of a traitor all his life
  11. ebrd
    ebrd 22 March 2013 10: 35
    +3
    Mister ,, Yes ,, but what the hell mister, GAVNYUK he..and the whole conversation ...
  12. Klim
    Klim 22 March 2013 10: 38
    0
    Hang a hyena
  13. Gari
    Gari 22 March 2013 10: 39
    +3
    From the memoirs of Richard Nixon (ex-US President) about the meeting with Kozyrev:
    While I was the vice president of the USA, and then the president, I wanted everyone to know that I was a “son of a bitch” and would fight to the end in the name of America’s interests. And this one (Kozyrev), when the Soviet Union had just collapsed, when the new Russia needs to be defended and strengthened, wants to show everyone how wonderful he is, the nice person - Bastard wonderful
    The whole point of his life to this bastard is Mr. "Yes" ... ,, I somehow believe that there is no other human interest than to live well. And they live well in the West,
    There was a country and there was Gromyko - he worked under six general secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee for exactly 50 years (1939-1989)! And although Western politicians and journalists called him \ "Mr. No \", nevertheless the London newspaper \ "The Times \" wrote about him in September 1981: \ "Perhaps Andrei Gromyko is the most informed foreign minister in the world \" ... He was respected.
    And now Sergei Lavrov, nicknamed "Mister no", which he was dubbed by the Western media.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 22 March 2013 21: 00
      +1
      Quote: Gari
      And now Sergei Lavrov, nicknamed "Mister no", which he was dubbed by the Western media.

      In what sense is he "mister no"?
      I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t smell, I don’t inject, in brothels I’m not noticed. ???
      It does not bring great benefit to the motherland, it surrendered Libya and does not particularly support Syria. Norway continuous concessions.
      Our citizens abroad are "warmed up" so that there are a lot of happy people.
      Ambassador Arabs are beaten with impunity.
      Where is this notorious Not-ee-ee-ee?
    2. Denis
      Denis 22 March 2013 21: 13
      +2
      Quote: Gari
      And now Sergey Lavrov, nicknamed "Mister No"
      Evil irony or their subtle humor with offscreen laughter
      They compared a member with a finger. This is against the background of a clown about whom an article he can be cool
  14. savoj
    savoj 22 March 2013 10: 51
    0
    .... the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the state (1990-1996) actually makes it clear that the Soviet Union was destroyed, mainly with the active participation of supporters of this destruction within the Union ....... it is. And so that the rare Russian people somehow fool up to the last Kremlin power is looking for the extreme across the ocean and in Europe. If NATO members want to expand, fuck on the ceiling or grill barbecue on Mars, then this is their personal affair and the affair of their peoples. But if a country such as Russia, thanks to its power, launches a company of Pskov paratroopers in Chechnya, for example, and then tells its people that they couldn’t help them because of bad weather, it’s such a Russian people that listens to it and votes in the elections how to. This is such a Russian people that allows the Kremlin authorities to produce billionaires and make a face that they themselves honestly earned money. This is such a Russian people that believes that Khodorkovsky is a thief, and the rest are white and fluffy. Just as the Jews at 18 with Ilyich once duped them, so now the same thing.
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 22 March 2013 11: 36
      +6
      Quote: savoj
      .... the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the state (1990-1996) actually makes it clear that the Soviet Union was destroyed, mainly with the active participation of supporters of this destruction within the Union ....... it is. And so that the rare Russian people somehow fool up to the last Kremlin power is looking for the extreme across the ocean and in Europe. If NATO members want to expand, fuck on the ceiling or grill barbecue on Mars, then this is their personal affair and the affair of their peoples. But if a country such as Russia, thanks to its power, launches a company of Pskov paratroopers in Chechnya, for example, and then tells its people that they couldn’t help them because of bad weather, it’s such a Russian people that listens to it and votes in the elections how to. This is such a Russian people that allows the Kremlin authorities to produce billionaires and make a face that they themselves honestly earned money. This is such a Russian people that believes that Khodorkovsky is a thief, and the rest are white and fluffy. Just as the Jews at 18 with Ilyich once duped them, so now the same thing.


      - Come on, now, the Russian people, the Russian people are ... By the way, the Russian people, unlike other peoples, once woke up in 17, took up the pitchfork and expressed their extreme indignation to the tsar and the capitalist ministers. So expressed that the world has turned upside down. The people can do anything if they get it well.
      And so it is clear that the upper classes are manipulating both the Russian and all other peoples as they want. And no matter what kind of people. Zapadoidy that - is it better? There, the idiots were hammered into their heads that they were supposedly "free", they threw a handful of bones in the form of all kinds of social benefits - here you gnaw, and we will want to do it. And let one of the zapadoid try to blather something - prison terms and a bunch of problems will not turn out. Over there, the paddling pools and otpashki went on strike with the Greeks - and what - they directly raised their salaries, cut the working day, maybe they also took them to the Canary Islands for the State Account? Fuck them bald - they dispersed in a democratic way - with water cannons and rubber bullets, so as not to get lost. The same to me free citizens of the great Atlantis, damn it. I looked at these overclocks. And they are dragging a barrel against our cops.
      Undemocratic, politically incorrect and very intolerant, right?

      And this goat, that in the photo - it will burn in hell, for having destroyed the great country with the same freaks.
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 March 2013 15: 35
        +3
        Quote: rodevaan
        Incidentally, unlike other nations, he had already woken up once in 17, took up the pitchfork and expressed his extreme indignation to the tsar and the capitalist ministers

        Did our people need that? And we still need to figure out what kind of people were happy with it. In the then St. Petersburg, not all Russia was, and many Petersburgers had those revolutions on the drum. Everything was done privately and not by the people, but by the top.
        The infamous Belovezhskaya Pushcha reminds
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 22 March 2013 21: 07
          +3
          Quote: Denis
          The infamous Belovezhskaya Pushcha reminds

          Your words from another topic:
          1. ULYANOV, Vladimir Ilyich (Lenin);
          2. SULISHVILI, David Sokratovich;
          3.UULYANOVA, Nadezhda Konstantinovna (Krupskaya);
          4. ARMAND, Inessa Fedorovna;
          5. SAFAROV, Georgy Ivanovich;
          6. Safarova - Martoshkina Valentina Sergeevna;
          Who killed the Russian Empire?
          7. Kharitonov, Moses Motkovich;
          8. KONSTANTINOVICH, Anna Evgenievna;
          9. USIEVICH, Grigory Alexandrovich;
          10. Usievich (KOH), Elena Feliksovna;
          11.RAVVICH, Sarah Naumovna;
          12. Tskhakaya, Mikhail Grigoryevich;
          13. SKOWLY, Abram Anchilovich;
          14. RADOMYSLSKY, Ovsey Gershen Aronovich; (Zinoviev);
          15. RADOMYSLSKAYA, Zlata Evnovna; (with son 5 years old)
          16. Boytsov N. (Radek KB) (Sobelson)
          17. RIVKIN, Zalman Burke Oserovich;
          18. SLYUSAREVA, Nadezhda Mikhailovna;
          19. GOBERMAN, Mikhail Vulfovich;
          20. ABRAMOVICH, May Zelikov;
          21. LINDE, Johann Arnold Johannovich;
          22. DIAMOND, Grigory Yakovlevich; (Sokolnikov);
          23. MIRINGOF, Ilya Davidovich;
          24. MIRINGOF, Maria Efimovna;
          25. ROSENBLUM, David Mordukhovich;
          26. PAYNESON, Semyon Gershovich;
          27. GREBELSKY, Fanya;
          28. POGOVSKAYA, Bunya Hemovna; (with 4's son)
          29. AIZENBUND, Meer Kivov.
          30. Rubakov (Anders).
          31. Egorov (Erich).
          What it is? Payment statement?
          Recording waiting lists for visiting the synagogue?

          This Bialowieza Forest, of this, is REST. wink
    2. Pancho
      Pancho 22 March 2013 21: 13
      +1
      That’s how it is, only you forget how the whole Russian people pressed the check, the ogpu (I write with a small letter on purpose), and the NKVD. I remember how my mother worked in the 20s before I carried the bucket with garbage, tearing shreds of apartment number from newspapers with Brezhnev’s portraits, although at that time it was unlikely that anyone would rummage through the garbage or report where necessary if he saw. Yes, and Leonid Ilyich, the Kingdom of Heaven was not bloodthirsty, and even on the contrary, I believe that at the genetic level we were repelled by the desire to rebel, although I would be glad to be wrong. yte losses in World War II, the best people lost.
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 March 2013 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: Pancho
        tore off newspapers with portraits of Brezhnev
        You go too far, then no one has already planted such a thing. As an argument, there are a lot of jokes of that time about Brezhnev and they were also told
        then the Novodvorskaya from the surveillance of the Chekists only famously came off and
        1. Pancho
          Pancho 23 March 2013 14: 33
          0
          Quote: Denis
          Bend over, then no one has already planted for this

          maybe he didn’t plant, but my mother tore off, the word caballero. It is better to overtake than not to finish.
      2. rodevaan
        rodevaan 24 March 2013 19: 36
        0
        Quote: Pancho
        That’s how it is, only you forget how the whole Russian people pressed the check, the ogpu (I write with a small letter on purpose), and the NKVD. I remember how my mother worked in the 20s before I carried the bucket with garbage, tearing shreds of apartment number from newspapers with Brezhnev’s portraits, although at that time it was unlikely that anyone would rummage through the garbage or report where necessary if he saw. Yes, and Leonid Ilyich, the Kingdom of Heaven was not bloodthirsty, and even on the contrary, I believe that at the genetic level we were repelled by the desire to rebel, although I would be glad to be wrong. yte losses in World War II, the best people lost.


        - You don't know the story well, dear. It was from the Geyropstan stupid cattle in 1945 that they were beaten off at the genetic level to fight and resist, and the overseas "advisers" also put shit-tolerance flavored with pink-blue cream there in all corners. So all that Caucasian menagerie will soon be wearing headscarves to prayers in a voluntary manner. And consider it as happiness. I think the former colonialists, the former slaves will remember everything with interest.
        As for our people, we always gave birth to talented and free people, no matter what periods in our life our country experienced.
    3. aleshka
      aleshka 23 March 2013 06: 56
      -1
      you’re driving a blizzard, the Pskov paratroopers didn’t turn their asses to the Czechs and died like heroes, and any power at all times, does not like to tell the truth, you choose the best examples
  15. Syrdon
    Syrdon 22 March 2013 11: 40
    -1
    Ah Joseph, where are you? But seriously, we are very lucky to have such a person as Lavrov. He holds the mark.
    1. Gari
      Gari 22 March 2013 15: 36
      +4
      Quote: Syrdon
      Ah Joseph, where are you?

      Gromyko - worked under six general secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee for exactly 50 years (1939-1989)! And although Western politicians and journalists called him \ "Mr. No \",
      Stalin's frame
  16. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 22 March 2013 11: 40
    +5
    Drinking mediocrity, but with the initiative, breaking through to power in Russia, naturally surrounds himself with the same mediocrity. Such was Kozyrev, who suddenly found himself at the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry. The fact that this mediocrity immediately becomes clear, after listening to what he says without a piece of paper, how he puffs, puffs, slowly and heavily squeezing out the words from himself, as if he is afraid to say banality or stupidity, or even BLANK something that does not correspond to his status ... But he always did it badly, because it was clearly above his intellectual capabilities. Therefore, it is not surprising that, as head of the Foreign Ministry, he chose the "sticky" course, which simply follows his State Department patron, personifying Western values ​​so dear to him, for which special intelligence is not required. All that remains is to hope that the time will come when all this Gorbachek-Yeltsin mosquito will receive for their "deeds" what it has long since deserved!
  17. savoj
    savoj 22 March 2013 12: 14
    14 th
    [quote = rodevaan

    - Come on, now, the Russian people, the Russian people are ... By the way, the Russian people, unlike other peoples, once woke up in 17, took up the pitchfork and expressed their extreme indignation to the tsar and the capitalist ministers. So expressed that the world has turned upside down. The people can do anything if they get it well.
    / Quote]
    And after that the people's choice Stalin rotted tens of millions of his own people in the camps ..... The world doesn't give a damn about it, but in every Russian family there are practically innocently killed and tortured in the Stalinist-communist "" paradise ""
    .
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 22 March 2013 15: 21
      +3
      Quote: savoj
      And after that the people's choice Stalin rotted tens of millions of his own people in the camps ..... The world doesn't give a damn about it, but in every Russian family there are practically innocently killed and tortured in the Stalinist-communist "" paradise ""
      .


      - Really, in the West, they taught their wits about the "billions" of rotten people of their own? Or did Satanidze again share a piece of "truth" hastily made in the dungeons of the CIA on TV? Personally, there are no repressed people in my environment, and I specifically asked everyone I know not. And in general, as much as I read literature on this matter, I try not to take hysterical cries of the pro-Western-liberoid modern masses, which are very fond of putting "millions of scoops" on the altar of a "terrible, bloody ghoul," but leafing through neutral sources, since the Internet is always at hand. And I have a completely different picture emerging in this regard.
    2. Urrry
      Urrry 22 March 2013 21: 25
      +2
      "And after that the people's choice Stalin rotted tens of millions of his own people in the camps" (c)

      If you were really interested in the history of that period, you would surely know at least the approximate number of convicts and "rotten" under Stalin ... here on the site many of these figures are known - therefore "propaganda" about "tens of millions" is not for the local audience.
      And so, for information - Stalin was not a "people's choice", because the procedure for appointing the General Secretary did not imply a nationwide vote, but more "popularly elected" Gorbachev and Yeltsin felt responsibility for the country :)
    3. aleshka
      aleshka 23 March 2013 06: 59
      0
      do you have innocent tortured?
    4. builder74
      builder74 23 March 2013 20: 47
      0
      And you can have a reference: what documents confirm the figure "tens of millions"? In our family, the families of the relatives I know who suffered from the Stalinist-communist paradise somehow do not!
  18. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 22 March 2013 12: 15
    +3
    It is doubtful that they really so naive believed in friendship with the West and the brotherhood of nations on a planetary scale. Most likely, all this reformist shobla quite meaningfully and not disinterestedly betrayed his homeland.
  19. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 22 March 2013 12: 18
    +1
    Is he still alive?
    1. terp 50
      terp 50 22 March 2013 13: 16
      0
      ... alive, does not look bad and did not even lose weight ...
  20. mamba
    mamba 22 March 2013 12: 20
    +8
    In January 1996, he was relieved of his duties as Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation at his personal request, in connection with the election of a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the second convocation, although earlier this did not prevent him from combining a ministerial post with a deputy in the Duma of the first convocation. In January 1998, he was elected a member of the board of directors of the American corporation ICN Pharmaceuticals. Since January 2000 - Vice President of the international pharmaceutical corporation ICN - General Director of the corporation for Eastern Europe. Since 2007 - Chairman of the Board of Directors of JSCB Investtorgbank. So Andryusha received his thirty pieces of silver for his labors for the benefit of Big Brother.
  21. wax
    wax 22 March 2013 12: 37
    +1
    With his "last victory" as head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Yeltsin's protégé A.V. Kozyrev considers the signing of an agreement with NATO in May 1995, on which he insisted. I am convinced that the expansion of NATO is neither a threat nor humiliation for Russia.
    In January 1998, he was elected a member of the board of directors of the American corporation ICN Pharmaceuticals. Vice President of ICN International Pharmaceutical Corporation - General Director of the Corporation for Eastern Europe since January 2000
    He lives, as you see, happily, as he wanted.
  22. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 22 March 2013 12: 53
    +1
    official spy of the us, who worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation supposedly for the benefit of the Russian state ... nits.
  23. terp 50
    terp 50 22 March 2013 13: 13
    0
    ... trouble, if the cobbler begins to bake the pies, and the boots start to grind the pies ...
    ... everything is selected according to the principle of “personal devotion”
  24. deo75
    deo75 22 March 2013 13: 51
    0
    Quote: pinecone
    Rare bastard.


    Totally agree!
  25. Denis
    Denis 22 March 2013 14: 09
    +1
    we need to build new relations with NATO, and then let them expand. But I was not against expansion in principle - it is absurd to speak out against it.
    That's g ... what, he let himself slip. Previously, from their words "well, very bad predecessors" did not consider it absurd and opposed this. Is it contrary to Mr. NO, this clown was called that?
    " His 28-year tenure as Minister of Foreign Affairs is the longest in the XNUMXth century in the world. In the difficult times of the Cold War, Western journalists came up with a well-known nickname - "Mr. No." Indeed, Gromyko became famous for his traditionally tough position in the negotiations. He never compromised the interests of the country and defended them to the end:
    - I did not allow myself to be manipulated. Who aspired to this, wanted to manipulate the Soviet Union. We are a great power, and we will not allow anyone to do this! he recalled in an interview.

    Andrei Gromyko was called "Mr. No"
    July 18 marks the 100th anniversary of the birth of the legendary Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR.
  26. USNik
    USNik 22 March 2013 14: 20
    +1
    The country must know its "heroes". And I think there is a daddy with the name of this "leader" in the relevant authorities, everything has its time, I hope.
    1. Denis
      Denis 22 March 2013 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: USNik
      in the relevant authorities there is a daddy with the name of this "leader", everything has its time, I hope
      Alas, although the hope is good, but vain. Who will "shake off the dust" from those daddies, those who crawled to the trough as a result of this mess?
      Bees against honey
  27. ABV
    ABV 22 March 2013 14: 57
    0
    quote:
    At a time when I was the vice-president of the United States and then the president, I wanted everyone to know that I was a “son of a bitch” and would fight to the end for the interests of America. And this (Kozyrev), when the Soviet Union has just collapsed, when a new Russia needs to be defended and strengthened, wants to show everyone what a wonderful, pleasant person he is.
    That says it all! It is a pity that these stsuk who killed the USSR will probably never be imprisoned - Gorbach, EBN and a brigade of nits-young reformers "...
  28. ABV
    ABV 22 March 2013 14: 58
    +1
    quote:
    At a time when I was the vice-president of the United States and then the president, I wanted everyone to know that I was a “son of a bitch” and would fight to the end for the interests of America. And this (Kozyrev), when the Soviet Union has just collapsed, when a new Russia needs to be defended and strengthened, wants to show everyone what a wonderful, pleasant person he is.

    That says it all! Rare Andon. It is a pity that these stsuks who killed the USSR will probably never be imprisoned - Gorbach, EBN and the brigade of "nit-young reformers" ...
  29. Allegedly
    Allegedly 22 March 2013 15: 05
    +2
    Quote: Byordovvv1
    Is he still alive?


    He is alive and well and does not cough. Although in any other country, only for a fraction of what he did - SHOOT!

    Now he is one of the backstage gray cardinals of the White Band movement ...
    1. Allegedly
      Allegedly 22 March 2013 17: 04
      +3
      This is how it looks now ...
      1. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 24 March 2013 16: 38
        0
        something from him is from reality .......
  30. I think so
    I think so 22 March 2013 15: 23
    +1
    "Mister Yes" is translated into human - PROSTITUTE. More infamous title and come up for this man (?) asshole impossible.
  31. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 22 March 2013 15: 48
    0
    Just when he went "to drink beer" he drove trite recruited. And let the FSB figure out what he was caught for.
    1. Allegedly
      Allegedly 22 March 2013 17: 09
      +5
      It's late, Yeltsin's pack is untouchable ... If only some abstract group "SWORD" takes care of people like him. Judas who betrayed his people, his country (any nation has the right to punish its traitor) must always feel the inevitability of punishment, so to speak, the sword raised over him ...
  32. polly
    polly 22 March 2013 16: 01
    +1
    Lord, why did they dig up this political corpse?
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 22 March 2013 16: 46
      +3
      Quote: polly
      Lord, why did they dig up this political corpse?

      The people should know their "Heroes".
  33. homosum20
    homosum20 22 March 2013 17: 28
    +1
    How much can you write about Cove. You can write about them only in sections - to whom they gave how much. And what circle of hell are they, sellers of the motherland, located. Not far from Judah Iscariot.
  34. R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№
    R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ 22 March 2013 17: 49
    +2
    A new species of reptiles. Born in the USSR, and adopted by yusa.
  35. nnz226
    nnz226 22 March 2013 19: 35
    0
    Hmm, "tovarisch" does not deserve a grave on Novodevichy, a roadside ditch is a worthy place for this "carcass" !!!
  36. APASUS
    APASUS 22 March 2013 20: 10
    0
    You can safely put on a par with Gorbachev and Yeltsin!
    According to the damage caused, the country caught up !!!!
  37. deman73
    deman73 22 March 2013 20: 33
    0
    paskudnik yet that
  38. Budilnik
    Budilnik 22 March 2013 20: 50
    0
    What is his true last name? Maybe we’ll find the answer from where this creeping
    1. Allegedly
      Allegedly 22 March 2013 21: 46
      +1
      Quote: Budilnik
      What is his true last name? Maybe we’ll find the answer from where this creeping


      Kozyrev (Fridman) Andrey Vladimirovich (1951 - ????)
  39. rodevaan
    rodevaan 22 March 2013 21: 18
    0
    Quote: Denis
    Did our people need that? And we still need to figure out what kind of people were happy with it. In the then St. Petersburg, not all Russia was, and many Petersburgers had those revolutions on the drum. Everything was done privately and not by the people, but by the top.
    The infamous Belovezhskaya Pushcha reminds


    - Do not confuse. These are 2 different things a bit. EBN with its piers did not really ask the people whether people wanted the collapse of the USSR, but simply ruined the country and the end. And how he didn’t ditch it completely - only God probably knows.
    And in the 17th year - the coup resulted in a terrible armed confrontation of the CLASSES - wealthy and rich - against the poor, that is, the proletariat. And ordinary citizens supported in their mass - red and not white. Maybe the Bolsheviks were at the tail of the election. But during the war - the people supported them, and not those who were at the feeding trough. And millions of Red Army volunteers are proof of this (I'm talking about those who voluntarily joined the Reds). If people lived well, if everyone was happy with everything, they would send all these Bolsheviks, or any other balamutes, who would only spoil normal life with their rallies, by the woods.
    Strongly our people are now reacting to Navalno-Bolotny, which there are "millions of oppressed" on some parade ground forcing them to march? I think in the afternoon with a lantern I will not find someone who would attend all these covens.
    1. Denis
      Denis 22 March 2013 21: 29
      +1
      Quote: rodevaan
      ordinary citizens supported in their mass - red and not white
      I’ll fix it, they forced me to keep it. It reminds me of the school story when I was studying. It remains only to tell a story about the Bolshevik sailors.
      Quote: rodevaan
      EBN with his quits didn’t really ask
      But at that time (revolution), they held several referenda a day directly in order to find out the opinion of the people?
      And the uprising of the peasants, they are not themselves, international massism has arranged
  40. sgv
    sgv 22 March 2013 22: 12
    0
    Bastards, these democrats handed over to us in Latvia for the opportunity to keep the loot in the euro zone. Now live here and look at the SS marches! Once again they are bastards !!!! Corrected four times while they missed the wording about the Democrats, so sorry so SO! At heart, everything is much harsher and more abusive!
  41. serg792002
    serg792002 22 March 2013 22: 52
    0
    Pascuda, you need to shoot such.
  42. albert
    albert 22 March 2013 22: 54
    0
    Now, thanks to this trick, a new term "kozyryovschina" has appeared in world diplomacy, which means an absolute betrayal of the interests of one's country in the international arena.
  43. Bosk
    Bosk 22 March 2013 23: 51
    0
    That way, in 500 years from the 90s of the 20th millennium they will be called "SMUTA 2" .... and they will be right, because there were no bright political personalities, but there were some dullness ... which led to I don't really want to talk about anything ...
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 22 March 2013 23: 56
      0
      Quote: Bosk
      because there were no vivid political figures, but there were some dullnesses ...

      What do you think, Judas is a bright political person?
      And we have such Judas .......................
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 23 March 2013 02: 22
        0
        Judah is an anti-personality, and even after a millennium he will remain a JUDAH, but I think about those comrades after a while they will forget ... because they were petty grays seized upon to power ... and my opinion is that they are unworthy to remain in memory of the people.
    2. rodevaan
      rodevaan 23 March 2013 12: 58
      +1
      Quote: Bosk
      That way, in 500 years from the 90s of the 20th millennium they will be called "SMUTA 2" .... and they will be right, because there were no bright political personalities, but there were some dullness ... which led to I don't really want to talk about anything ...


      - That's right. Smoota-2. The most suitable name. And to be honest - it’s embarrassing and embarrassing for the descendants of the 90s. When people will see how the Great Country collapsed and what they turned it into during the decade of the 90s.
      burn in hell with them, fucking eltsinoids.
  44. aleks-s2011
    aleks-s2011 23 March 2013 00: 25
    0
    I haven’t read anything yet. just on the RZH SKINT Link. please
  45. Ulysses
    Ulysses 23 March 2013 00: 35
    0
    "Slobbering".
    Everything that comes to mind at the mention of this political corpse.
    A rare abomination, like Vanya Rybkin, from the breed of assholes of the "Yeltsin Guard" PODONKOV.
  46. elenagromova
    elenagromova 23 March 2013 00: 48
    0
    Yeah ... the ideologue of corruption ...
  47. aleks-s2011
    aleks-s2011 23 March 2013 00: 59
    0
    nothing you write about Gorbachev and Yeltsin write. I believe that they did what they could. they acted not only themselves. and the presidential power, as then and now, does not allow working as an absolute monarchy. there are so-called lobbies. send to minus. just remember about Chubais and others like him. and do not forget what they decide. all collective farm where to whom to be.
    1. Denis
      Denis 23 March 2013 03: 49
      +1
      Quote: aleks-s2011
      nothing you write about Gorbachev and Yeltsin write. I believe that they did what they could
      Yeah, they’ve tried ps. They wouldn’t do better
  48. Proud.
    Proud. 23 March 2013 10: 08
    0
    And Kozyrev has a prophetic dream: On my chest the vest is torn,
    In my hands I hold a black banner!
    Imperial guard took me
    And in captivity the hodgepodge team.
    And now, crunching carrots, with Lyovka terrible
    Father himself came out onto the porch,
    He looked and shouted: “To the birch!”
    The error came out, exactly everything ...
    That's all ...
    Exactly, everything ... (the text of the dream voice acting (with a slight change) is borrowed from the group "Mongol Shuudan").
  49. assaker
    assaker 23 March 2013 10: 50
    0
    Eh, we’re not learning anything, not in 1918, not in 1991, and it will continue ................
  50. rodevaan
    rodevaan 23 March 2013 12: 54
    0
    [quote = Denis] I’ll fix it, they forced me to keep it. It reminds me of the school story when I was studying. It remains only to tell a story about the Bolshevik sailors. They sincerely supported, in the rear it’s better to gaggle than to fight with the Germans
    [quote = rodevaan] But at that time (revolution), they held several referenda a day directly in order to find out the opinion of the people?
    And the uprising of the peasants, they themselves are not international-massonism staged

    - Well, what bothers you about the Bolshevik sailors? By the way, did you wonder why the sailors supported the Reds? It's not that the war with the Germans - the sailors perfectly showed how they can deal with the Fritz in the Great Patriotic War. The fact is that they preferred to form naval crews out of workers, because the fleet required primarily people who were technically well trained or had experience with equipment by occupation. And the workers were better suited for this than the peasants who made up the soldier’s environment. And how the workers lived under the tsar and the capitalist ministers - no need to tell. Therefore, they for the most part supported the revolution.