Afghanistan to face maturity test in relations with Pakistan

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Afghanistan to face maturity test in relations with Pakistan

Political life is not going to stop at the beginning of 2025. Since some globalists are fighting tirelessly with other globalists for the title of the main globalist during the period of "global transformation", there is no time for political vacations.

There are quite a few interesting ones towards the end of the year News brought Afghanistan, which is controlled by the still completely banned Taliban movement (banned in Russia). Hotbeds of hostilities have broken out between Afghanistan and Pakistan, which under certain circumstances could escalate into a regional military conflict.



The armed clashes between these participants themselves are nothing new, but, as always, it is not the scale and frequency of the outbreaks that are important, but their context, especially since another long-standing “collective player” fits into this context – groups from Balochistan.

Exchange blows


On December 24, the Pakistani Air Force struck three Afghan villages. This was a response to an attack on a border checkpoint by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan group, or TTP for short (banned in Russia). Sixteen Pakistani servicemen were killed. The blow was quite powerful: Islamabad reported 16 militants killed, Kabul - 71 civilians killed, and the UN mission here rather sided with the Afghans.

It is possible to understand the Pakistani military elite and its politicians in principle - the total number of victims of sabotage and terrorist attacks associated with the TTP and Baloch groups this year has approached two thousand people.

Clashes in the Afghan-Pakistani and Iranian-Pakistani border areas have been going on since March. However, this episode stands out from the rest in terms of scale. It can be compared to the March incident, when Pakistan responded to the TTP for the death of five Chinese engineers who were on their way to build a hydroelectric power station. What is characteristic is that this almost coincided with the time when Baloch groups (the Balochistan Liberation Army) attacked the port of Gwadar, which (as in the case of the hydroelectric power station) has Chinese investments and strategic interests. The incident can also be compared in scale to the attack by the Balochistan Liberation Army in August last year.

At first glance, these attacks appear to be part of a larger plot aimed at Islamabad. Could the Pakistani Taliban and Baloch factions coordinate attacks? They certainly could. However, their goals and objectives are vastly different, as are their levels of influence in the region, and the context in which the Taliban’s semi-sanctioned government now operates is no less important.

The vertical of power and the advances issued


Some points related to the incidents deserve special mention.

The time of the strike was when a Pakistani departmental (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) delegation was visiting Kabul. It is clear that this is not a disconnect between the military and civilian politicians, but a planned situation.

Islamabad is not simply “expressing dissatisfaction” with the TTP-Kabul ties, but is, firstly, showing that a certain limit has been reached, and secondly, leaving the window of dialogue open.

All subsequent attacks from the Taliban ("we will not leave it unanswered", if necessary, "we will cross the border", etc.) were ready to be heard in Pakistan in advance, and right in front of the departmental delegation. The Taliban could not help but read this message.

Even if it is forced to do so, Islamabad is quite harshly testing the functionality of the vertical power structure in Kabul: is it only the appearance of a hierarchy or is it really a hierarchy, albeit with a distribution of “feeding” shares across territories.

The current situation in the world still leaves room for daring discoveries. In this regard, there are many enthusiasts in the camp of Afghan "specialists" who would not mind making a big mess of Pakistan - to gather forces (and they are considerable), redraw the map and actually cross the "Durand Line". As a result, the US and China will compete for help to Pakistan, and Kabul will be deprived of any project funds at all, but this is a question of that very hierarchy. Is there a vertical power structure of a single state or is it just an appearance of a vertical?It is unlikely that Pakistan itself is delighted with such a move, but 2024 has been too painful in terms of TTP terror and attacks by Baloch groups.

The next important point is the issue of recognizing the Taliban. Let's recall April-May 2023. At that time, the UN discussed the issue of assessing the movement with a view to discussing the issue of recognition: whether it had embarked on "the path of active correction" or was still only planning to do so. This issue is very difficult, for example, it was here that I. Khan received his "red card" from the US.

But the Taliban themselves couldn't come up with anything better at that time than to activate "education reform." The entire conflict is described in detail in the material Afghanistan risks becoming a victim of the American game again, in the end — the reform related to women's rights, closed the discussion in the UN for a long time. And why did it happen? Well, actually, because the Taliban did not yet have any working hierarchy or vertical - it took a year for it to form, and already under it Chinese projects were activated, Afghan-Iranian trade, a parade of de facto recognition of the movement by its neighbors began.

At the end of December, the Russian law “On combating the legalization (laundering) of proceeds from crime and the financing of terrorism” was amended. The amendments established

"the procedure for temporarily suspending the ban on the activities of an organization included in the list of terrorist organizations, if there is evidence that such an organization has ceased to engage in propaganda, justification, and support of terrorism."

It is clear that this move was made to bring relations with Kabul into a formalized channel and as a prologue to normal work. The suspension of the ban is temporary, since there is still the framework of the same UN, but this is a recognition format similar to the steps taken in China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.

And now the Taliban is introducing such norms regarding female education that are even stronger than those prescribed in the 2023 reform. Because all the significant players agree to work with its “flavor.” This is true, but Pakistan, which had previously secured the support of the SCO and China, is making it quite clear that all the legal nuances of recognition are advance payment, not closing of the deal.

Kabul needs to prove the vertical and the efficiency of the hierarchy, and not through school reforms, but through the issue of security, of which the TTP is a part, and this will not disappear from the agenda.

Change of ISI format


Islamabad, as predicted by the current administration, is trying to resolve the issue of the CCI's activity purely by force, recognizing past initiatives in a political context as erroneous and harmful.

In August, the former head of the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence of Pakistan) (F. Hamid) was also arrested. Thus, both supporters of diplomacy towards the CCI (F. Hamid and former Prime Minister I. Khan) found themselves in places of low comfort.

The issue here is not so much corruption (real or partly attributed), but rather that the ISI is thus becoming not an analogue of the American CIA or the British MI6 as a separate player in politics, but rather a military intelligence agency proper.

I. Khan had good public support, but neither the army nor the elite had it, and the ISI became his (I. Khan's) power component, and therefore a counterweight to the army and political elite. The ISI was generally a "highlight" in the rather bland political and economic Pakistani "loaf", but such a pronounced element of discord.

Now this most important department is the army, and the Sharifs-Bhuttos have taken control and are starting to remake it from an analogue of the CIA to an analogue of the GRU. It is logical that the political initiatives of its previous leadership have also been thrown into the trash. And this means that they have decided to suppress the TTP in Islamabad by force, and here Kabul will have to choose between political strategy and the principle: "their own" are more important, regardless of what kind of policy they are pursuing. If the hierarchy subordinates forces that interfere with work on large projects, that is one conversation, if it cannot subordinate them, that is another.

So far, it appears that essentially different forces – Baloch nationalists and Islamists from the TTP – are acting in a coordinated manner, and Islamabad needs to separate them, since it is impossible to attract investment with such a border conflict zone stretching for more than a thousand kilometers.

Tactical connections and strategic differences


Baloch groups are nationalists with elements of a leftist political agenda. Both Iranian Balochistan and its Pakistani part are sparsely populated territories by regional standards (2,5 million people and 14 million, respectively), however, both Pakistani Balochistan and Iranian Balochistan are building their own port "hubs" - in Iran, ports in the area of ​​Chabahar, in Pakistan - the port of Gwadar. In the case of Pakistan, this is also military infrastructure for China.

In Iran, the Baloch are poorly represented in power, while in Pakistan, since the 1980s, specific clans have been incorporated into the government and the military elite, while another part of their elite, after a series of military rebellions, found themselves “driven beyond Mozhai.”

From their previous political line, they have nationalism, and since neither Iran nor Pakistan want to shell out much for these territories, leftist ideas of a social orientation have taken good root. This basis inevitably conflicts with both Tehran and Islamabad, as well as, in fact, with the basis of the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban.

The peculiar collision here is that Afghan refugees, including those connected with the Taliban, settled en masse in Pakistani Balochistan and around the provincial capital of Quetta. Pakistan did not prevent this, rather encouraged it for a long time, including to “dilute” Baloch nationalism and monitor the situation and identify sedition through its ISI channels. In the past, sedition was also expressed in Iranian influence.

But here, as they say, they overdid it, since it was one thing when relations were maintained with different branches of the Taliban, and the Taliban itself was a mixture of different regional corporations, but it is another thing now that the corporations in Afghanistan have lined up (as they say) in a hierarchical structure, and the Pakistani Taliban has already become a full-fledged enemy.

The ideological basis is what works in the long term, but in the moment everything works according to the principle of "the enemy of my enemy", and nationalists with radical Deobandis from the TTP began to find a common language. Knocking out a share in the future commodity and money flow has become a common task, because the city of Quetta itself is now considered as part of the future commodity route based on the port and railways, it is part of the future international, not regional logistics.

And the more attention this project receives, the more the contradictions between those in power and at the official barrier to the flow of goods and those who were pushed aside in the past or who consider themselves deprived are exacerbated. They are also pulling the population over to their side, telling them, for example, how the Chinese and Iranians destroyed and caught schools of fish on the coast.

The TTP issue is even more complicated for Pakistan. If Baloch separatism is, by and large, alien to everyone except the proponents of this idea, then the Pashtun provinces where the TTP has dug in are a close interweaving of family and ideological-religious roots with Afghanistan.

But roots are roots, and these are also border crossings through which trade takes place. Only two promising routes go through Balochistan, and almost everything related to the development of Chinese trade and Chinese initiatives goes through the Pashtun Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Formally, the Chinese-Pakistani corridor should go through the province of Gilgit-Baltistan and further to Quetta and Gwadar, but this region with a complex name is essentially part of Kashmir. And all the actual trans-Afghan initiatives go through Khyber. These are not only consumer goods and cash turnover, but also projects such as the TAPI gas pipeline under construction, fiber optics, power lines and electrical substations. It would be naive to assume that the Pakistani Taliban from the TTP will simply step aside from such “barriers”, especially since they have the potential to terrorize agricultural Kashmir with its trade routes if they want. And there is also the Ismaili factor, and Islamabad must take it into account.

Having become a de facto (and almost de jure) recognized part of the international playing field, the Afghan Taliban was forced to agree within itself on a hierarchy, but Kabul cannot simply write off its TTP brothers.

They all came from the same madrassas, all of them are related in different ways, although political expediency suggests that Pakistan should not interfere too much in the fight or in agreements (as it goes), which is what is periodically discussed with Pakistan. But by all the concepts, written and not, they should rather cover the TTP - but how can one not go too far here, if the TTP groups are very militantly, even irreconcilably, opposed to Islamabad?

Afghanistan can obviously develop only with Chinese money and projects, but many of them are connected with Pakistan, where the fraternal TTP movement is quartered at the barrier. TTP for the current Afghan Taliban is a kind of "ingrown old nail" - it is unrealistic to go on the road to big projects with it, and it is extremely painful to remove it. So for Kabul the time is coming to choose - whether the movement has grown into a political player, capable of expediency and strategy, or not yet.

Сonclusion


The hairy tentacles of the global backstage can be seen in these incidents and harsh frictions, but there are more than enough starting conditions here without any backstage. Pakistan is even partly lucky that the US has not been building a strategy around it for several years and is focused on other areas. But will this continue under the new administration? Doubtful.

The US policy will still be developed, and the results of the pause, which in terms of Pakistan the US has generally been quite long - more than two years, they have yet to assess. But with such conditions of the parties, by and large, the future US administration should not even come up with any complex combinations - they can simply print cash and transfer it to a greater extent to the TTP and to a lesser extent to the Baloch groups. Then it will "go by itself."

And the fact that part of it will inevitably leak to Afghanistan itself, well, it can still be sold profitably to Kabul at the auction in Doha. It can also be sold to Islamabad - in both cases it is a question of presenting a topic for bargaining. What can the US do here at all, conduct open-bid bargaining - we give money and will give, what can you offer? This option is not suitable - think, and this one is not suitable - think better, etc. With relatively little effort from the printing press, the US can well keep the cauldron on the Pakistani border boiling for a long time, without crossing the line of regional escalation, but blocking the implementation of Chinese, Russian, Central Asian initiatives. Whether Beijing will be ready to fight for this seething and not very pleasant political broth with its treasury, the near future will show.
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  1. +1
    6 January 2025 09: 39
    The author somehow forgets that the Taliban are Pashtuns. Almost the entire northwestern third of Pakistan is a zone of compact residence of Pashtuns, who have never recognized the "Durand Line". And the issue here is not politics, but the fact that both sides of the "line" are not just fellow tribesmen, but relatives. The Taliban needed Pakistan while there was a confrontation with the international coalition. Now the need has disappeared.
    1. +2
      6 January 2025 10: 40
      Well, this fact is well known, but the material indicates a related aspect. The issue here is not so much in the relationship, but in the fact that in the territories that the TTP considers "theirs", there are border trade points. The deeper China and other "projectors" with their projects go into Afghanistan, the more acute the issue of these transition points-nodes will become. In theory, the Taliban itself, which is still completely banned, should resolve this issue as a state with another state - Pakistan. They, of course, do not want to do this, because their vertical is "raw". If the issue of who-what-how much gets from the border is resolved, then the border itself is not such a fundamental point, but otherwise this issue can be pumped up indefinitely. The TTP will squeeze everything it can and cannot out of this contradiction. So the Taliban elite has a good reason to pass a maturity test. I believe that they will not pass this test this year.
      1. -1
        6 January 2025 11: 44
        The issue of uniting all Pashtuns has always been relevant. It's just that while they were fighting against the USSR and NATO, help from Pakistan was needed - this topic was hushed up. Now there is no such need and this topic will come to the fore. This is generally a very bad topic for Pakistan - because 30% are Pashtuns, 30% are Baluchis, 30% are Punjabis. And the first two want to get out of Pakistan.
        1. +1
          6 January 2025 12: 36
          You've overstated the percentage of Balochs, by a lot. And the Pashtuns too.
          1. 0
            6 January 2025 13: 01
            Data from the Internet, perhaps there is some inaccuracy. But the point is that there are many who want to go into autonomous sailing and few who want to stay. And most importantly, there are external forces ready to help autonomous sailors.
            1. +1
              6 January 2025 13: 08
              Well, even the all-seeing Google will give "somewhat" different figures. Double-check.
        2. +3
          6 January 2025 16: 08
          The Internet reports that Pashtuns in Pakistan are slightly more than 15 percent, and Balochis are about 4 percent. At the same time, Punjabis are about 45 percent. That is, there are more than twice as many Punjabis in Pakistan as Pashtuns and Balochis combined. But at the same time, there are 36 million Pashtuns in Pakistan, and about 16 million Pashtuns in Afghanistan.
          1. -1
            6 January 2025 16: 09
            Who conducted the census and how accurate is it?
            1. +1
              6 January 2025 16: 41
              Do you think it is impossible to determine the approximate population of countries and ethnic groups without a census? A census was definitely conducted in Pakistan. As for Afghanistan, the figures are estimated, but I think the error is around several percent.
              1. 0
                6 January 2025 17: 22
                How can you know the population size without counting it?
                1. +1
                  6 January 2025 17: 35
                  There are many methods for determining the population size. Although, of course, without an officially conducted census, the result will differ in some error. Do you honestly believe that in the Russian Federation, population censuses are conducted to determine its size? It can be determined without censuses.
                  1. 0
                    6 January 2025 18: 39
                    Why spend a ton of money from the budget? Just to have a laugh?)))
                    1. 0
                      6 January 2025 19: 19
                      Well, how can I say. Nationality is no longer indicated in passports. Therefore, during the census, a person either states his or her nationality or refuses to indicate it. Now, it seems, you can indicate two nationalities. Plus indicate your native language or two native languages. Theoretically, these native languages ​​may not even coincide with the indicated nationality or nationalities. Plus a question about knowledge of the Russian language. This kind of data is not in the databases of the Social Fund, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Education and Science, the Ministry of Education, Housing and Public Utilities, Civil Registry Offices, etc. Or questions about means of subsistence. There are 23 questions there. Plus ten questions about housing conditions. Although, to be honest, the answers to a good half of the questions can be found without our answers. I participate in all population censuses on principle, for me this is a matter of principle. First of all, it is important for me to indicate my Russian nationality. If the census takers did not come, then I came to the census site myself. I participated in the last census remotely and persuaded all my relatives and my wife’s relatives to participate.
                      1. -1
                        6 January 2025 21: 51
                        Well, that means a census is still needed? Even if it is not 100% objective.
                      2. +1
                        7 January 2025 01: 22
                        For many tasks it is necessary, no doubt. My thought was only that the total population of a country or region can be established without a census, relying on intersecting and duplicating data from different databases.
      2. +2
        6 January 2025 12: 05
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        So the Taliban leadership has a good reason to pass a maturity test.

        The Afghan mentality is fundamentally different from the Russian one. There, a security officer or governor, when driving along the highway with security, gives way to local drivers who, driving into the middle of the highway, try to push the motorcade to the side of the road or into a ditch. Under the Americans, district chiefs had a special fund for paying bribes to local respected elders. In Chamkani, bribes were given so that local residents would agree that the head of the family, after buying a house and land, would be given documents indicating that the person who bought the house in Chamkani actually lives in it. Borders, in the understanding of the residents of Chamkani, are a certain line beyond which daredevils go to steal women or murderers and criminals escape from the revenge of relatives of the murdered and persecution by the authorities. Illegally crossing the border or even moving it to the south is not committing an illegal act but an expression of male courage.
        1. +2
          6 January 2025 12: 29
          Well, now everyone is making way for the people's heroes in black turbans. The question is, what next? The case of Afghan statehood is a topic for a Nobel Prize. Because the issue can only be resolved in theory if everything financially depends on the center. The center can only receive money through projects from China and indirectly through projects in Central Asia and Iran, not to mention Pakistan. OK. But there is nothing stopping the US from simply giving cash to the TPP. Well, not directly, of course, but that doesn't change much. By US standards, that's pennies for their "machine" - 1\100 of Ukraine. But in that case, the Afghan center loses its main argument. It would be logical to simply let the PAK-BP clean up the TPP, but how, if it's banal and literally related elements. That is, the US can simply bring cash there once a quarter and watch the efforts of competitors through large binoculars.
          To illegally cross the border or even to move it to the south is not an illegal act but an expression of male courage.

          Well, this is already the traditional cherry on this juicy cake, which will only add traditional flavor to the whole scheme. How all interested parties will resolve this issue - I don't know. In theory, Kabul should be given not just "projects", but a lot of money for several years, without asking for results and trying to block all possible channels of circulation of cash around this border Klondike. The first element of the scheme defies traditional perception, the second is almost utopian technically given the blatant poverty of the surrounding area. In general, it will be extremely interesting to watch all this.
          1. +1
            6 January 2025 12: 38
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            The case of Afghan statehood is a topic for a Nobel Prize.

            Afghanistan's ability to defend its independence is a case study of Afghan statehood. Afghanistan emerged from post-war devastation in 3 years. Drug trafficking has been destroyed in Afghanistan in 3 years. It is the Russian police and the FSB, compared to their Afghan colleagues, that demonstrate complete incompetence in combating the drug mafia.
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            in the abject poverty of the surrounding area.

            An Afghan electrician's salary in Shebargan at a foreign-owned plant is $500. A seamstress's salary in an Afghan province is $200. This is not bad even compared to an aircraft engineer at a Moscow military plant with a salary of 70 rubles with 000 years of experience in aircraft manufacturing and another 35 years at a defense research institute. An Afghan farmer is able to feed, clothe and shoe 5 children, while a Moscow engineer after graduating from Stankin can only feed 7, and many not only did not have children, but were even financially unable to have a family.
            1. +3
              6 January 2025 12: 48
              Well, a little more and the Afghans will build a spaceport and overtake I. Musk in the exploration of Mars. I will not argue that the turbans are trying to make a normal and self-sufficient economic unit out of that "swarm" that has been there for many years. And they are trying, and many things are working out, and even some schemes are quite non-trivial. Moreover, they do not need to spend much on weapons even after American gifts. But the road there is still long. For now, Uzbek and Tajik seamstresses still prefer to sew in the vast expanses of Russia.
              1. +1
                6 January 2025 12: 58
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                For now, Uzbek and Tajik seamstresses still prefer to sew in the vast expanses of Russia.

                Go shopping. A lot of what you buy as Russian, European or Chinese is sewn in Kyrgyzstan. In Russia, it is problematic to create an enterprise with a staff of more than 300 people. How will you prevent theft at a sewing enterprise in Russia? The laws do not allow neither to search the thief nor to punish. The police protect the authorities, the safety of citizens, but are reluctant to interfere in conflicts between the owner of the enterprise and thieves. This is one problem that makes the production of consumer goods unattractive in Russia. The second problem is the high cost of permits. Try to connect gas, electricity, water, start the elevator or lifting mechanism at the enterprise. Regular certification of the workplace with a hammer, file and vice is still a problem.
                1. +2
                  6 January 2025 13: 07
                  Despite the fact that there are actually more problems than you can handle, the ones you specifically mentioned are not exactly them, but not the way you describe them. And definitely not a problem of thieves.
                  connect gas, electricity, water, start an elevator or lifting mechanism at the enterprise
                  - within the framework of the "sewing shop" as such, this is not necessary, this is more related to other types of enterprises. Now, a meat shop is a more interesting quest laughing , and sewing, well, that's true.
                  1. -1
                    6 January 2025 13: 18
                    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                    And it's definitely not a problem for smugglers.

                    This is not a problem of thieves but a problem of the state structure in Russia. Large businesses in Russia are generally forced to inflate their accounting staff and complicate the structure of enterprise management in order to reduce the amount of theft. In Russia, they like to talk about geopolitics, which does not affect the state of the economy or the situation in the country, but they stubbornly ignore important problems of managing industry, trade and education.
                    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                    - within the framework of the "sewing workshop" as such, this is not necessary,

                    It is tempting to open a small workshop in a small town where wages are lower. All profits will be spent on maintaining safety training logs, fire safety equipment, and the like. Around In 2005, obtaining permission to connect additional electrical capacity for the Interskol plant in the Moscow region cost more than building a completely new plant in China to produce power tools. For a long time, the Chinese local government could not understand what the cost of a permit to connect to the power grid was.
                    1. +4
                      6 January 2025 13: 31
                      Well, don't talk about connections for the sewing workshop and "magazines". A plant like Interskol is a plant and it will solve the issue separately, and if it can't solve it, then it needs to be sorted out separately. In the region, they will now allocate space for the workshop, let you work, connect you, and agree on treatment facilities for a small share. And the girls and boys will learn to fill out the journals and submit reports electronically and without it. The issue is somewhat different and this is even more painful than all the issues described - a shrinking market and a clinical deficit of normal, adequate turnover. These two factors hit harder than everything else. Everything else is more or less resolved at the regional or district level. But these two factors are like a hellish woodpecker - it keeps hammering and hammering. Our market is being artificially narrowed, directly according to European patterns. And as for the permitting criteria, well, small farms are being gradually brought out according to the same patterns. In agriculture, the middle level simply can't handle export. There, the focus is on the march. Other areas are squeezed in a more "natural" way, through turnover and limited sales. There is the topic of government contracts, but not every accounting department can handle it. winked
            2. 0
              7 January 2025 12: 15
              "In Afghanistan, drug trafficking has been destroyed in 3 years."
              Yeah, right "completely".
              1. 0
                8 January 2025 16: 16
                Quote from AdAstra
                Yeah, right "completely".

                Heroin has decreased at least 20 times. A year ago, Afghan security forces seized more synthetic crap at one time than drug police in all of Russia did in a year. They started fighting marijuana in 1. Each security officer who delivers a marijuana addict is paid $2024. I think if Russian police were paid $150 for something like that, drug addiction would be overcome in Russia. At the dawn of Soviet power, security officers and police officers were paid bonuses.
  2. +1
    6 January 2025 14: 25
    It is impossible to come to an agreement with the population or to push off from it if it is in a mosaic tribal state of public consciousness and culture that has not gone through either feudalism or capitalism. That is, it has not taken shape in a civilizational way, either systemically or structurally. And there is no need to even talk about some kind of production and infrastructure cooperation, and the social culture and public consciousness tied to them. How, in general, can one negotiate with a swamp-like jelly? And what can be done in such a situation? For example, the Yankees, in North America, simply totally destroyed the local population, by all possible means, up to distributing smallpox-infected blankets to the Indians. Therefore, all "external" entities coming to this territory will need to solve this issue - either also destroy, fundamentally not formed, or make, from this "substance" soft explosives, and then act as "benefactors" giving the natives weapons, money, and food for a permanent war. And these grateful natives, who remain alive, must treat external players as demigods flying on fiery chariots across the Sky. Well, how else to overcome a thousand-year lag in social evolution? Buy local "leaders"? Well, that's "water in sand" (. And that means creating a jar with scorpions. And the Taliban as a glass jar*. At least it's some form. True, its content... It's a bit prohibited in the Russian Federation.
    1. +1
      6 January 2025 20: 01
      The Taliban can gather the "natives", they know a thing or two about this management. But there is one condition, for this they themselves need to gather not externally, but in reality. They have taken steps and quite a few, whether there will be a result - we will see.
  3. +5
    6 January 2025 14: 45
    The merry Afghan libertine may end the same way that merry libertines generally end. Since Kosovo, the world has been trending towards "saw-up of failed states" and it may happen that Afghanistan's neighbors will also decide to saw-up at some point. Because chronic hemorrhoids are of no use to anyone, especially in an era when even a slipper maker can assemble a UAV in a cave and hit it somewhere. It's one thing when these guys were sitting there, growing poppies and cutting each other up, and quite another when this dough started to squirt out of the pan, here and there.
    "Sawing" can start carefully (like, for example, Israel does), but in general the trend of tearing apart some ethno-territorial enclaves or weakened states is becoming increasingly clear in the world today - the fate of the same Kurds and the same Syria is also a fairly typical example. Serious bearded men should think about the fact that their dirty tricks that were successful yesterday can end tomorrow for them the same way as for Hamas* (*blah or not blah already?) - that is, badly, very badly, and most importantly, thoroughly.
    1. 0
      6 January 2025 15: 21
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      their dirty tricks that were successful yesterday may end up the same for them tomorrow as for Hamas

      Israel crushed Egypt, Syria, Jordan and their allies in a maximum of 2 weeks. The Israel Defense Forces have been fighting Hamas for almost a year and a half. Just over 100 people out of several hundred kidnapped have been released.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Since Kosovo, the world has seen a trend towards "sawing up failed states"

      Then the Albanian mafia of drug dealers and pimps sawed up the quite successful and pleasant to live state of Yugoslavia. The comparatively secular states of Egypt, Algeria, Syria, Iraq are turning or threatening to turn into strictly Islamic. And in Russia and Europe the share of Muslims is growing and more and more Muslim women in these countries wear strict Muslim clothing. Moreover, it is the families with women who accept the strictness of Islam that have the most children.
    2. +2
      6 January 2025 20: 06
      Well, it would be more likely that the guys in black turbans would saw off a piece of Pakistan than that someone would saw off pieces of Afghanistan - that's definitely not what anyone needs. One thing is needed from this part of geography - pacification, and what methods the Taliban will use - well, that's their "sovereign business". By the way, Hamas has not ended and is quite floundering. Sooner or later, Netanyahu's Syrian deal will be considered a success and he will be asked again about the hostages.
      1. +1
        6 January 2025 20: 41
        I'm afraid that the era of cheerful bearded men has ended with the advent of cheap drones and FPV drones. When cheap drones with AI appear that can independently search for and eliminate manpower, bearded men will be gone forever.
        At some point, Afghanistan's neighbors may catch on to the modern trends of "pacifying the situation in the Russian style" and a united Afghanistan as a state may "lose weight" considerably. In the event that some economic interest or security interests, for example, will stand behind this. There is no one to stand up for the Afghan bearded men - they have had enough of their obscurantism and this hotbed has also had enough of everyone.
        So what I'm talking about is not such a fantasy, look how the world is heating up. And it may well reach that point. Right now, "spherical humanity in a vacuum" has significantly sagged, in principle, we see this in Gaza, in the North-East, in Syria. At some point, the trend of making deals with the bearded ones may change to a trend of grinding them up as combat units. Which is now being demonstrated quite effectively by Israel - for now, it combines this with diplomacy, but you must agree that the operations of the last year are no longer the same artillery training for sparrows that was before. They have moved on to more targeted, more persistent and more effective actions. This direction will develop further - diplomacy will fade into the background, because everyone understands that it will not be possible to plug the holes indefinitely. They need to be welded shut - this is the logic that is being formed.

        Regarding Gaza - even if not now, then later, the general goal of the Jews to seize this land or at least take complete control is obvious. As for them, the lack of an alternative in this case is obvious. When people have no alternative - they do terrible things, both some and others. The fact that Hamas still exists as a phenomenon does not mean anything. If you look at the map of the territorial changes of the Jewish state over the past 50 years and their diplomatic achievements, it will be more than clear which way the winds of history are blowing. And Hamas is just ashes in these winds - whether they like it or not. The Indians fought bravely against the American colonists - but we all know how it ended, so the winds of the new (not necessarily good) blow away the dust of the old (not necessarily bad). Afghanistan in its current form is a big pile of old dust.
        We see how many piles of old dust have been blown away in recent decades - this includes Iraq and Libya, and now Syria has fallen. The world is changing - if we grasp how it is changing, we can roughly imagine where the front of pressure of these changes will be on the piles of old dust.

        So I agree, of course, with you that maybe they will become close friends with the new authorities and everyone will be happy for a long time "like in the old days". But a new time is coming and it is possible that they will not become close friends...
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          9 January 2025 15: 51
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          I'm afraid that the era of cheerful bearded men has ended with the advent of cheap drones and FPV drones. When cheap drones with AI appear that can independently search for and eliminate manpower, bearded men will be extinct.

          You forget - that in inverse this can work the other way too.
          And it may well turn out that the losses from the bearded men's attacks will outweigh the profits from their destruction.
          The cost of training a Stinger or UAV operator (conditionally!!!!) in Afghanistan, compared to the cost of training a helicopter/tank crew, is practically zero.
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    7 January 2025 12: 20
    It is clear that the most developed country is China. Therefore, it will be easier for the Americans to put pressure on China with sanctions so that they do not start implementing projects, the Silk Road from Asia to Europe.
    And in this skirmish on the border, try to figure out who? Whom? And why attacked?