The 70s as I remember them

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The 70s as I remember them
Modern view of the facade of the institute buildings


On December 26, 2024, the memoirs of a staff author of this site about the 70s of the twentieth century were published, which are difficult to agree with.



Below are my memories.

Instead of a preface.

1. The author has a negative attitude towards the communist idea, considering it an armchair theory.

2. The memories of the described period of the 70s of the XNUMXth century are, naturally, passed through the subjective perception of a young, inexperienced young man.


The author is 17,5 years old.


As a seventeen-year-old boy, I entered a Leningrad university. The road to adulthood began in the city on the Neva! With a guy (Andrey V.), whom we met during entrance exams, we rented a room in the very center of the city on Saltykov-Shchedrin Street, now Kirochnaya, and before the revolution too. We were not entitled to a dormitory, because they thought that our families would support us financially enough.

When you are young, full of desires and strength, you want everything at once! You can do without bread.

It was quite difficult to study: 2 classes and a lecture. I had to cram a lot, but still had time to participate in the KVN team, a friend dragged me there, SNO (for those who don’t know — student scientific society), visiting attractions, etc.

Parties, first independent trips to cafes with girls. Everything happened.

The first time I visited the Hermitage was as part of a group organized to visit the gold storeroom. The trade union was working! I don’t know why, but it didn’t make any impression on me. Perhaps my expectations were too high.

But I really liked the Russian Museum. As they say, love at first sight!

After the first semester I was expelled for failing the exam in inorganic chemistry, although I thought I knew the subject, and other students in our group copied from me during tests. But my attempts to retake the exam were unsuccessful. I told my parents. My father came, went to see the rector and after talking to him, to my surprise, reassured me: "You'll enroll next year."

I learned the real reason for my expulsion only 30 years after graduating from the institute. But more on that later.

Liberals call Brezhnev's reign a time of stagnation, but in reality it was a time of stability.

Most of the main oil and gas pipelines that Russia is now actively using were built in the 60s and 70s. Deposits were explored. City-forming enterprises were built.

VAZ-2101 was released in 1972.

KAMAZ - 1976

Housing construction solved the notorious "housing issue" and quite successfully: 105 million square meters of housing were delivered per year. During Brezhnev's rule, the population increased by more than 40 million people.

Sanatoriums, health centers, rest homes. This is not a myth, this is the reality that existed at that time.

The enterprise or trade union paid up to 100% of the cost of the trip.

Penny bills for utilities and public transport. The so-called "general card" for public transport in Leningrad for a month cost 6 rubles, and with a student card - 3 rubles.

Set lunch in the student canteen 30, 40 and 70 kopecks. This is the first, second and compote.

For 70 kopecks, the first course is usually solyanka, and the second course is a piece of stewed meat.

The army is the strongest in Europe, and perhaps in the world. The CMEA countries are included in economic cooperation.

And as a result, the signing of the Helsinki Accords in 1975, the Act on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Which consolidated the borders that existed at that time, which became a reality after WWII.

The fact that the economy was skewed towards heavy industry is quite understandable.

There really was little "consumer goods", that is, fashionable clothes, decent furniture, convenient plumbing, etc. Problems with clothes were solved by numerous ateliers. Jeans were a fetish of the seventies, the ultimate dream of fashionistas, a certain status symbol. Soviet actors in magazine photos in jeans (Vysoky, Dal, Boyarsky, Abdulov, etc.) also voluntarily or involuntarily promoted the so-called "foreign values". For some, buying branded jeans is a certain milestone in life.

Many people focus on empty shelves in grocery stores. Yes, there was no variety in products, but I don’t remember completely empty shelves either. The market had everything, and the prices weren’t sky-high. Maybe two or two and a half times higher than in state trade. The “coolest” market in Leningrad in the 70s was “Kuznechny”. In 78–79, we rented a room in the Pertsev House (Pertsov House) (Ligovsky, 44) — a five-minute walk to the Kuznechny Market. We would go and buy 2–3 apples, a 500–700 gram piece of tenderloin, not ruinous even for students.

This is one of the paradoxes of developed socialism: everyone complained that there was nothing to buy in the shops, but everyone's refrigerators were full to the brim. Relatives from the Urals had 2-3 three-liter jars of melted butter. And everyone constantly grumbled that everything was expensive at the market!

Almost every family made some kind of supplies. No one went hungry. Yes, it was different in different cities, but the shelves were not empty.

For me, the 70s are primarily youth and all the good things associated with it. Somewhere in the fall, friends invited me to a concert of the Georgian group "Iveria", it was held in the DK "Vyborgsky", I went reluctantly - I thought it was something Georgian-folk, criminal-round dance.

At the beginning of each section they performed 2-3 songs in Georgian, and then - all the best that was in the world of pop music at that time. Before that, I listened to this same music only on a tape recorder, and here it was live, which hits straight into the soul! It is unforgettable.

July Morning became my favorite song for a long time. Since then I try to go to concerts.

I remember standing in line for tickets to see Elton John in the late 70s. I knew there was zero chance, but hope dies last! We couldn't get tickets, and we didn't get to the concert! But we came to the BKZ at the beginning of the concert hoping for a miracle. But the miracle didn't happen.

The BDT is a separate story, as are Tovstonogov’s productions.


Theatre building.

«History horses", "Khanuma", "For every wise man...", "The Government Inspector". We can talk endlessly about the star cast.

Of course, our seats were either in the gallery or somewhere on the balcony, but the stage sparkled so much that stars reached there too!
The Pushkin Theatre was not a favourite at the time, but people went there to see Alisa’s father, Bruno Freundlich, perform “Peer Gynt”.

A friend invited me to a bathhouse, how could I refuse?! Saunas had just come into fashion back then. They were placed inside washing rooms. A Russian steam room, of course, and a sauna! It was really cool! It was December, somewhere around six in the evening, snow was lying on the poorly cleared sidewalks, and we went into a bathhouse on Tchaikovsky Street.

The ticket cost 2 rubles, 10 kopecks for a sheet and 5 kopecks for a waffle towel. The two allotted hours flew by in an instant. I was very impressed by the friendly atmosphere of the bathhouse attendants. It felt like a team of long-time acquaintances had gathered.


When I left the bathhouse, I didn’t feel the frost, but it was almost twenty degrees!
I just wanted to fly!
The moon was shining, the snow was crunching under our feet, and we were walking towards Liteiny, which was brightly lit.
And the bathhouse also became love at first sight!

The second time I entered the institute, having the specialty of a second-class carpenter.

I had some life experience. And I already understood well enough how society at that time was structured.

An unspoken agreement was concluded between the people and the country's leadership. The people accepted that there were problems with the variety of food supplies, quality furniture, fashionable and comfortable clothes and shoes, etc., and the country's leadership turned a blind eye to minor violations of the law.

Yes, there were major executions that thundered throughout the Union, but that didn’t change anything.

In our carpentry shop where I worked, every man made one double-paned window for himself during the week, and the frame, of course. All this was carried out unhindered through the "back" checkpoint and sold on Saturday at the market. The price of a window was 30-40 rubles. In total, plus 140 rubles to the salary.

To my puzzled question the answer was: that’s how it’s done.

What's interesting is that this was everywhere. Maybe it wasn't like that at restricted enterprises.

Don't think that the country's leadership didn't know this. They knew, but... The seventies were the beginning of the collapse of the USSR, and the collapse began first and foremost in people's heads, as Professor Preobrazhensky said.

If my neighbor can, then why can't I? And it all started with careerists getting into the party. They said very correct words at meetings, got positions and condoned general theft, bribery, explaining all this by the fact that if the theft at the enterprise stopped, the workers would quit. Well, something like that.

After my second year I got married. And from the beginning of my third year I went to work as a loader in a store. Work from 17 to 21 p.m. and every other day.

It suited me perfectly. During this time, two cars arrived with bread and milk. This product was put out the next morning.

There were also "fly-by" vehicles. This is when a store, where the goods were originally sent, refused to accept them, and the driver could choose where to unload. But this was extremely rare.

I know very well how the food trade was organized in the 70s and 80s. I also know the assortment that came to our store.
Not all the goods reached the counter. First of all, they called the "blatnye" (privileged people), informing them that they had brought this and that. Naturally, the store employees also bought goods, and they, like all normal Soviet people, bought not only for themselves, but also for their relatives, friends, acquaintances, and so on down the list.

You can't find the same sour cream that came from the dairy now! We diluted it with water, Vasya, with water! Until it was a little thicker than milk.

In two weeks, a person could earn 2-3 thousand rubles in state trade, which is half the cost of a Zhiguli.

We went to the Kirov stadium for football a couple of times. First by tram, and then through the entire Central Park of Culture and Leisure to the stadium on foot. The dismal performance of Zenit put us off attending such events for a long time.

But then I discovered hockey. More precisely, my friend. I myself couldn't even stand on skates then. Yes, we all watched the USSR-Canada Super Series in 1972. It was a victory!

Seryoga dragged me to Yakushev then. SKA - Spartak. We played in Yubileiny.

On TV you watch hockey through the eyes of a cameraman, and when there is a break, you are shown the benches or the spectators. But in reality, it is a performance, where all the roles are assigned, but the ending is unpredictable! You see how the attack is prepared, how the defense is prepared. This will not be shown on TV. You can see the work of the coaches, the true directors of this performance. And emotions - you need to feel them.

I watched and understood why the fans called Yakushev “snag” back then.

That's the 70s for me.

Nobody called them “stagnant”; they lived a calm life with confidence in the future.

If you want to earn more, it's easy! In my 4th, 5th and 6th years of study, I worked 3 jobs and earned an average of 210-215 rubles, plus 45 rubles as a stipend. The work did not affect my studies in any way.

Yes, there were those who sat in their kitchens and reasoned that there was no such thing as this or that. That their salaries were categorically not enough! But for some reason they had no desire to get off their ass and find a second job.

I repeat once again - there was a lot of work. Police officers often went on vacation to harvest pine nuts. For some reason, this was popular with them.

But what is interesting is that these eternal whiners knew how to write, and now many draw conclusions about the “hungry 70s” precisely from the recollections (memoirs) of these rotten intellectuals.

The result of this successful decade was the Moscow Olympics (1980). This was recognition on a global scale.

One cannot ignore the introduction of Soviet troops into Afghanistan. There was no ostentatious patriotism. The army did its job. The people took it for granted - there was trust in the government.

The country's leadership knew about the situation in the country - of course!

Why didn't they try to adjust economic policy when the time for reforms was already ripe? Communist dogmas didn't allow it? I have no other answer.

At this time, the government begins to shake, especially in the outskirts of the country. Terrorist attacks in Moscow, carried out by Armenian nationalists. The hijacking of the plane by the Brazinskas. And other incidents.

What the authorities are doing is trying to improve the economy of the outskirts to the detriment of the main population of the country.

The KGB didn't work? It did.

All layers of society were under X-ray.

A friend of mine whom I hadn't seen since graduating came to the 2010 alumni reunion.

He is three years older than me. After finishing school, he entered the institute only on the third try. Naturally, he worked and managed to join the party.

I already wrote that in my first year I was a member of the KVN team (most of the team later became residents of Israel), I don’t have any acting talent, but still.

During lectures we tried to sit next to each other, and at the same time we solved KV issues.

One of our people brought a typewritten text, like a libretto for the opera “Meresiev”.
“We’ll cut off Meresyev’s legs.
- How will I fly?
And so on. It was funny in places.

I read all of this and gave these sheets of paper to the owner. It was the first time I read something like this. As they said later, I expressed some joy from what I had read. It is quite possible, I don’t remember anymore.

At the course party meeting, they discussed a signal (it was clear where it came from) that I had read this and expressed joy at what I had read. It was decided to punish me. The head of the inorganic chemistry department, a professor, I won't give his name, volunteered to carry out the punishment. He promised that I would be expelled because I would not pass the exam during the winter session. And that's how it all happened.

This explains how my father took my expulsion calmly.

This somehow changed my attitude towards my life - no, and it won’t change it.

These are my memories of time and of myself.

I would be happy to read someone else's memories of the 70s.
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  1. +16
    5 January 2025 05: 14
    IMHO.. The description is quite accurate. There is, of course, a difference with Chelyabinsk.-)) In some ways it is worse, and in others it is better. But otherwise, everything is accurate.
    Alas... that serenity and simplicity of life have sunk into oblivion... As well as that childish ignorance of all evil... and all blackness... Although there were enough troubles and sins -))))
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 06: 19
      Quote: ammunition
      The description is quite accurate.

      Fifty percent, if not more, would describe the seventies in the same vein.
  2. +13
    5 January 2025 05: 20
    Stability, confidence in the future, all this was and people remembered it, the Author is absolutely right about the lampoons of intellectuals about small salaries and blue hens from everyone who fundamentally did not want to get up from the couch and go find a part-time job, later these lampoons were elevated to the cult of the honest truth in the era when the union was divided by pockets, very convenient under such sauce. Meanwhile, there was plenty of work, part-time work, and even for children within walking distance (I remember myself as a schoolboy then).
    1. -10
      5 January 2025 08: 47
      And the eternal battle, peace we only dream of...

      Quote: evgen1221
      Stability, confidence in the future,

      And "tomorrow" day has come, called itself a re-arrangement. We waited...
      Before they are slaughtered, cattle are also fattened up...

      Khrushchev, despite all his shootings of peaceful Soviet citizens' demonstrations, couldn't do it right away. Then the Trotskyists put Brezhnev in charge instead of him, who began to "boil the frog" slowly...

      The most famous "achievements" of the Brezhnev era:
      - he flooded the country with alcohol, the consumption of which increased 10 times under his rule;
      - he put the country on the oil needle, the country became dependent on the price of oil;
      - it lay under the dollar, trade with foreign countries was carried out in dollars.

      After that came "prohibition", then "Alcohol Royale", in unlimited quantities, and while the people were in a drunken stupor, there was a redistribution of property from public to private...

      The dream of the Trotskyists since 1917 has finally come true...
      Their flag flies proudly over the country.
      1. +6
        5 January 2025 09: 04
        They are boiling frogs now. The frogs are lying in boiling water and enjoying themselves. Never lived like this before and here we are again.
        1. -6
          5 January 2025 09: 28
          All power to the Soviets!

          Quote: Gardamir
          never lived like this before and here we are again.

          The Trotskyists have achieved their age-old goal and only Putin, through his foreign policy, prevents them from living in peace. They have fallen out with the West so much that they are not allowed in, they have been deprived of their "jamon". They had to spend the almost two-week New Year holidays God knows where...

          In general, they started to boil not only the frog, but also fry those who threw it there.
          1. +2
            5 January 2025 09: 38
            Are you talking about how a Great Country was turned into a country of losers?
            1. -13
              5 January 2025 09: 47
              "Tell us what our interests should be."
              Kozyrev, a pensioner in Miami.

              Quote: Gardamir
              Are you talking about how a Great Country was turned into a country of losers?

              Yes, the 70s, which they are trying to whitewash, are one of the stages of the USSR's transformation into a colonial country. Slaves in their souls are incapable of living by their own minds, they cannot imagine their coexistence without a master...

              Gorbachev was extremely happy when he advertised pizza in the USA.
              Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...
              1. Msi
                +7
                5 January 2025 10: 16
                The 70s, which they are trying to whitewash, are one of the stages of the transformation of the USSR into a colonial country

                I read your comments and I don’t understand at all, you’re out of your mind, who are you for, the whites or the reds?
                Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...

                Are you Tatra number two or something? wassat
                1. -15
                  5 January 2025 10: 23
                  All power to the Soviets!

                  Quote from Msi
                  Who are you for, the whites or the reds?

                  I am for the Bolsheviks. I am for Stalin. I am against the Trotskyists: Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Medvedev.

                  Quote from Msi
                  Are you Tatra number two or something?

                  Unlike Tatra, I answer questions. wink

                  ps
                  I'll add to the comment above:
                  - Khrushchev sowed the entire country with American corn4
                  - Brezhnev was high on cola...
                  1. Msi
                    +5
                    5 January 2025 10: 25
                    Unlike Tatra, I answer questions

                    Well, yes... A dubious achievement.
                    Where do you place Putin in the list of names you listed?
                    1. -14
                      5 January 2025 10: 30
                      All power to the Soviets!

                      Quote from Msi
                      Where do you place Putin in the list of names you listed?

                      Putin, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible - these are Bolsheviks for whom the interests of the majority are the most important.

                      ps
                      “Bolshevism is not a Russian variety of Marxism and not a party affiliation. And the phrase “Jewish Bolshevism” used by Hitler in “Mein Kampf” is completely meaningless, since Bolshevism is a manifestation of the spirit of Russian civilization, and not the spirit of the bearers of the doctrine of biblical global slavery on a racial basis .
                      Bolshevism existed before Marxism, existed in Russian Marxism, somehow it exists today. It will continue to exist.
                      As stated by the Bolsheviks themselves, members of the Marxist party of the RSDLP * (b), it was they who expressed in politics the strategic interests of the working majority of the population of multinational Russia, as a result of which only they had the right to be called Bolsheviks. Regardless of how infallible the Bolsheviks are in expressing the strategic interests of the labor majority, how much this majority is aware of its strategic interests and true to them in life, the essence of Bolshevism is not the numerical superiority of the adherents of certain ideas over the adherents of other ideas and the thoughtless crowd, namely this:
                      in a sincere desire to express and implement the long-term strategic interests of the labor majority, who want no one to parasitize on their work and life. In other words, historically, in every epoch, the essence of Bolshevism is in active support of the transition process from the historically established crowd of “elitism” to the multinational humanity of the Earth of the future era. "
                      1. +2
                        5 January 2025 11: 39
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Putin, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible - these are Bolsheviks for whom the interests of the majority are the most important.


                        "there will be no revision of the privatization results."
                        That's all you need to know about Bolshevik number 1...
                      2. -4
                        5 January 2025 11: 44
                        All power to the Soviets!

                        Quote: Doccor18
                        "there will be no revision of the privatization results."
                        That's all you need to know about Bolshevik number 1

                        Until Russia becomes sovereign, the question of revising the results of the redistribution of property does not make sense and, moreover, in the current situation, it is harmful. The consequences of such a decision will lead to the collapse of Russia.
                      3. +1
                        5 January 2025 11: 46
                        Quote: Boris55
                        did not become sovereign, the question of revising the results of the redistribution of property does not make sense and, moreover, in the current situation it is harmful

                        That's all you need to know about "modern Bolshevism" with a capitalist tint laughing laughing laughing
                      4. -1
                        5 January 2025 11: 51
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        That's all you need to know about "modern Bolshevism"

                        It is not enough for you that unprecedented sanctions have been imposed on Russia, that a war with NATO has been forced upon us in Ukraine, do you want to start a civil war inside Russia?

                        To what extent do you have to be so "brilliant"? Goodbye. hi
                      5. +2
                        5 January 2025 11: 46
                        Apparently the majority asked to raise the retirement age?
                      6. -5
                        5 January 2025 11: 54
                        All power to the Soviets!

                        Quote: Gardamir
                        Apparently the majority asked to raise the retirement age?

                        This question has already been discussed from different angles. If you don't understand, then I have nothing more to add. Goodbye hi
                      7. +5
                        5 January 2025 12: 28
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Putin, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible

                        Of those you listed, only I.V. Stalin was a Bolshevik. Putin is a liberal and anti-Soviet, and Ivan the Terrible had never even heard of Bolshevism, I agree that he was a supporter of the state...
                      8. -1
                        10 January 2025 15: 48
                        Putin is a Bolshevik, he is most likely a bourgeois with the ideology of Napoleon.
                  2. BAI
                    +2
                    5 January 2025 12: 16
                    Khrushchev sowed the entire country with American corn

                    Hogweed
                    1. +1
                      5 January 2025 22: 39
                      During Stalin's time, they tried to cultivate Sosnowsky's hogweed.
              2. 0
                5 January 2025 11: 00
                Quote: Boris55
                Gorbachev was extremely happy when he advertised pizza in the USA.
                Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...

                And we can continue, Putin got into the Mercedes and was... on cloud nine, taking his "dear partners" at their word. Yes... says the former KGB colonel
                1. 0
                  5 January 2025 11: 27
                  All power to the Soviets!

                  Quote: Unknown
                  Putin got into the Mercedes

                  There is no need to attribute the words of the movie dad Mueller to our president.
                  Question: Why does the West dream of the physical elimination of Putin?
                  1. +1
                    5 January 2025 11: 46
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Question: Why does the West dream of the physical elimination of Putin?

                    Where did they get this from? Yes, the West is satisfied with Putin on all counts. Under his rule, the Russian Federation has finally become a raw materials appendage of Europe, the USA and China, they have ruined their industry, allowed NATO into the former republics of the Union. Putin buried the Russian Spring, concluded the Minsk agreements, has gone to defend who knows whose interests in Syria, under him the Russian population is shrinking, but migrants are growing by leaps and bounds, Great Russians are beating Little Russians to death. So why should the West dream of eliminating the president?
                    1. +1
                      5 January 2025 11: 47
                      Quote: Unknown
                      Where did you get this idea from?

                      Bye. hi
                      1. -1
                        5 January 2025 11: 49
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Bye

                        Mutually laughing
                    2. +1
                      5 January 2025 16: 32
                      Quote: Unknown
                      Yes, the West is satisfied with Putin in all respects.

                      If the West were satisfied with Putin, the Anglo-Saxons would not have declared a hunt for him.
                      Quote: Unknown
                      Putin got into the Mercedes and was... on cloud nine

                      When they talk about other people's feelings in such terms, I don't read any further, because it's nonsense from personal ambitions, often illiterate ones...
                      In general, you read the thread and are horrified by how these commentators are proud of their illiteracy, referring to the fact that they received a better education in the USSR?! Today, there is a lot of historical literature about those times on the open market. Well, at least someone would read the summary!!! And they argue as if they know something...
                  2. -3
                    5 January 2025 11: 49
                    Why does the West need this? Nabiullina works for the West, Someone supplies the West with oil, gas, uranium, helps America by buying securities.
                  3. Msi
                    +1
                    5 January 2025 12: 57
                    Question: Why does the West dream of physically eliminating Putin?

                    Because the West wants Russia to collapse. With all its shortcomings (about Putin) now radical changes are like death for us... That's why they hate him and want a new revolution in Russia...
                  4. -1
                    10 January 2025 15: 51
                    If they wanted to, they would have eliminated it. But the West's plan is being successfully implemented. It is reducing the population of Russia to an acceptable number.
              3. +4
                5 January 2025 17: 08
                Quote: Boris55
                Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...
                Actually, it was Gaddafi who screwed us: he promised concessions - he screwed us, he gave them to the French, he promised to buy weapons - he bought them from the French. So when the French started to take him out, why should we have stood up for him? Let him go to his French.
              4. -1
                5 January 2025 19: 25
                Gorbachev was extremely happy when he advertised pizza in the USA.
                Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...


                Vladimir Putin never sang in front of Hollywood actresses and actors.
              5. +1
                10 January 2025 06: 27
                Quote: Boris55
                "Tell us what our interests should be."
                Kozyrev, a pensioner in Miami.

                Quote: Gardamir
                Are you talking about how a Great Country was turned into a country of losers?

                Yes, the 70s, which they are trying to whitewash, are one of the stages of the USSR's transformation into a colonial country. Slaves in their souls are incapable of living by their own minds, they cannot imagine their coexistence without a master...

                Gorbachev was extremely happy when he advertised pizza in the USA.
                Medvedev betrayed Libya for a new iPhone...

                What does the USSR have to do with it? Russia is already a different country, with a different ideology. The fact that the population of the USSR, according to the author, grew by 40 million people, says something. But now in well-fed Russia there is a loss of a million a year, despite the shock rates of migrant imports
          2. +2
            5 January 2025 11: 34
            ...and only Putin, through his foreign policy, prevents them from living in peace...


            "How do you like that, Elon Musk, that is, Boris Leontievich?"

            Please comment.

            BERLIN, January 3. /TASS/. Imports of Russian uranium to Germany increased by almost 2024% in 70 compared to the previous year, with at least 68,6 tons imported in total, Der Spiegel magazine reported, citing data from the Lower Saxony Ministry of the Environment, Energy and Climate Protection.
            The uranium was delivered to the nuclear fuel plant of Advanced Nuclear Fuels (ANF) in Lingen (Lower Saxony). ANF is a subsidiary of the French company Framatome...https://tass.ru/ekonomika/22818751


            Why supply uranium to enemies? Or is the Chief not aware?
            1. -5
              5 January 2025 11: 42
              All power to the Soviets!

              Quote: AA17
              Or is the Chief not aware?

              In the know. He is also aware that Lukoil, through Bulgaria, supplies the Ukrainian Armed Forces with fuel and lubricants.
              Domestic policy is entirely under the control of the Trotskyists. The Duma does not pass laws that Russia needs and passes those laws that the West needs. If it wanted, it could have passed Stalin's Constitution...

              If you think Putin is a tsar, then further conversation with you is pointless.
            2. BAI
              -1
              5 January 2025 12: 20
              Why supply uranium to enemies? Or is the Chief not aware?

              He is aware. And he even publicly set the task of sorting this out. But! SO AS NOT TO HARM HIMSELF. And refusal to supply = loss of money = obvious harm. And as Chernyshevsky asked: What to do?!
              1. +4
                5 January 2025 13: 32
                And refusal to supply = loss of money = obvious harm.


                Where is the logic?
                Sell ​​strategic raw materials to enemies so that they can make modern weapons to kill our soldiers?

                How will we harm ourselves if we do not supply uranium to our enemies?

                Perhaps by refusing to supply raw materials to the West, the Russian Federation will achieve a convincing Victory in the North-Eastern Front more quickly?
                Maybe the authorities are wrong once again?

                "If it were possible to look at the situation, knowing what is happening now, the situation in 2021, 2022, what would I think about: I would think about the fact that the decision that was made at the beginning of 2022, it should have been made earlier. This is the first thing. And the second. Knowing this, it was necessary to simply start preparing for these events, including for the SVO" (V.V. Putin)
                1. BAI
                  +3
                  5 January 2025 15: 49
                  Where is the logic?
                  Sell ​​strategic raw materials to enemies so that they can make modern weapons to kill our soldiers?




                  The logic is that it harms the soldiers, but brings profit to the sellers and the government.
                  It was clearly said: "Do no harm to yourself." And who did he mean when he said "himself?" Ask VVP.
                  I have already written before that our government and people live on different planets.
            3. 0
              10 January 2025 06: 33
              Quote: AA17
              ...and only Putin, through his foreign policy, prevents them from living in peace...


              "How do you like that, Elon Musk, that is, Boris Leontievich?"

              Please comment.

              BERLIN, January 3. /TASS/. Imports of Russian uranium to Germany increased by almost 2024% in 70 compared to the previous year, with at least 68,6 tons imported in total, Der Spiegel magazine reported, citing data from the Lower Saxony Ministry of the Environment, Energy and Climate Protection.
              The uranium was delivered to the nuclear fuel plant of Advanced Nuclear Fuels (ANF) in Lingen (Lower Saxony). ANF is a subsidiary of the French company Framatome...https://tass.ru/ekonomika/22818751


              Why supply uranium to enemies? Or is the Chief not aware?

              Are you aware that there are other countries that mine uranium ore? They just don't say what exactly they supplied - ore and low-enriched uranium.
              In addition, uranium, like oil and gas, is a source of currency. If you cut off everything, as you want, then what will you buy machine tools and medicines for? And the same consumer goods are not imported from abroad for rubles
          3. +2
            5 January 2025 19: 23
            They've fallen out with the West so badly that they're not allowed in, they've been deprived of their "jamon". They had to spend the almost two-week New Year holidays God knows where...


            This is how they want to measure themselves, and it is not Putin who has fallen out with the West, but the other way around.
      2. +3
        5 January 2025 12: 16
        You have a fundamentally wrong understanding of what was happening then, as well as the causes and effects. What the hell kind of Trotskyist is Brezhnev, get lost!
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 12: 48
          It's just a fashion for name-calling. Not long ago, everyone called each other liberals. Now, in threads about the USSR, it's fashionable to criticize Trotskyists.
    2. 0
      8 January 2025 01: 01
      The trick of the USSR was that money didn't decide. Even if you had 100 rubles, you wouldn't be able to buy something in short supply without connections. That's why horizontal connections and various "blat" were very important in the USSR, which allowed you to exchange your money for goods, services, and entertainment in short supply.
      As for free apartments and travel vouchers, everything is also not clear-cut; if you are not a leading worker-hegemon, a valuable employee for the enterprise, a mother of many children, an activist-participant in amateur activities, then you could wait for a “freebie” until the “Carrot Lent”, the line of applicants for social benefits was constantly growing.
      1. 0
        10 January 2025 06: 38
        Quote: Cympak
        The trick of the USSR was that money didn't decide. Even if you had 100 rubles, you wouldn't be able to buy something in short supply without connections. That's why horizontal connections and various "blat" were very important in the USSR, which allowed you to exchange your money for goods, services, and entertainment in short supply.
        As for free apartments and travel vouchers, everything is also not clear-cut; if you are not a leading worker-hegemon, a valuable employee for the enterprise, a mother of many children, an activist-participant in amateur activities, then you could wait for a “freebie” until the “Carrot Lent”, the line of applicants for social benefits was constantly growing.

        For some, yes, it was possible to wait. But the military were given an apartment after service in any city where they had relatives and where they could register. I am now happily living in my parents' apartment, which I received in 1986 absolutely free of charge. And all my father's colleagues, military retirees, received living space.
  3. 0
    5 January 2025 05: 47
    Greetings from the 90s generation! (born in the mid-80s) It's interesting to read and sometimes funny. Because on the one hand, I think it's important to respect and understand the older generation. On the other hand, when you grumble about the collapse and how bad everything was for us, you can always say that you yourself are guilty. If you were systematically robbed on Sundays, then for us everything was just more honest. Funny: Two classes and a routine - is that a difficult education?) We were lucky - the remnants of Soviet education have reached us. But we could joke on KVN.) And what I consider a great achievement of the 90s is the flow of diverse literature. Not only bad, but also useful. Because, to tell the truth, the horizons of the Soviet person were noticeably narrowed by the system of that time.
  4. +9
    5 January 2025 06: 20
    We were not entitled to a dormitory, because they considered that that families will support us financially enough.

    I, a student from 1969 to 1974, hear something like this for the first time: "I remember everything that didn't happen to me." As for the placement of applicants in the dorm, the rules were approximately as follows.
    Only out-of-town students have the right to be accommodated in the dormitory. In case of a shortage of places in the dormitory, preference is given to applicants who received a higher passing score when entering the institute. Students who did not receive a place in the dormitory are registered and, if vacancies appear, are moved into the dormitory. And so on.
    1. +4
      5 January 2025 11: 03
      As for the placement of applicants in the dormitory, the rules were approximately as follows.
      Only out-of-town students have the right to be accommodated in the dormitory. In case of a shortage of places in the dormitory, preference is given to applicants who received a higher passing score upon admission to the institute. Students who do not receive a place in the dormitory are registered and, if vacancies appear, are moved into the dormitory.
      Absolutely right. In our Moscow region, even Muscovites were given dormitories, only locals, Zhukovskys, were not given them.
  5. +8
    5 January 2025 06: 26
    Yes, I remember there was such a joke about Maresyev. It was supposed to hum the text to the melody of Christ's aria from the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar.
    It's strange that the party organization bit on this. And in a not so communist way, they secretly decided to take revenge. At that time, there were hundreds of jokes about Chapaev, Petka and Furmanov, which put them in a very unfavorable light... Heroes of the Civil War, after all. The joke about Maresyev only speaks of the enormous popularity of the story of his feat. Just like after 17 Moments of Spring, dozens of jokes about Stirlitz appeared. Nobody even paid attention to this.
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 10: 56
      The lyrics were supposed to be sung to the tune of the aria of Christ from the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar.
      This rock opera was written in 1970, when I was at a student party at Moscow State University, I first learned about it in 1974. As for the opera "The Tale of a Real Man", I heard the text in the late 60s, it seems it was written in the 50s, at the same time as the opera "Virgin Soil Upturned". Sholokhov had to make a lot of effort to force it (Virgin Soil Upturned) to be shelved. There were even operettas on the theme of the Great Patriotic War at the same time - "The cabin is pierced / by the fire of a Messerschmitt...". This musical craze quickly died down by the 60s.
      1. +2
        5 January 2025 13: 10
        The opera "The Tale of a Real Man" has nothing to do with it. There is no such text there. This humorous text about Maresyev was already spreading as a joke in the late 70s.
        Let's cut off, cut off, Maresyev's leg!
        No, no - I have to fly!
        Your gangrene worries me,
        Get your scalpel ready, it's time to begin.


        No, no, not that!
        Hold on, hold on, the end is coming soon.
        No, no, not that!
        Here are your legs, you're doing great.
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 20: 03
          There is no such text there.
          And what text is there, if my friend, who entered the Kolmogorov School at Moscow State University in 1971, showed me these lines?
          1. +1
            6 January 2025 01: 23
            This text fits perfectly into the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar. It was written to this tune.
            The mockery element in the text is visible to the naked eye. The author of the topic even claims that he was expelled from the institute for giggling at this text. Although, in my opinion, this is clearly too much. But do you want to say that some artistic council could have passed such a text?
            At the same time, when this text appeared, there was talk that this was almost an official opera, but no such text was found there.
            1. +1
              6 January 2025 08: 03
              This text fits neatly into the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar.
              Many things fit perfectly into the musical meter. So the same rotten student of the Kolmogorov School at Moscow State University tried to sing "Get up, huge country" to the tune of "A Christmas tree was born in the forest", for which he almost got hit in the pumpkin. This was also 1971.
              1. 0
                6 January 2025 14: 26
                I was convinced 40 years ago that there is no such text in Prokofiev's opera. If you are interested, see for yourself.
    2. BAI
      +4
      5 January 2025 12: 25
      Yes, I remember there was such a joke about Maresyev.

      Yes, I was shocked when I came to the Bolshoi Theatre (Moscow) for the opera, attention: DEAD SOULS, and saw the posters: the opera The Story of a Real Man and the ballet: The Dawns Here Are Quiet.
      This is what flourished in Soviet art - unnecessary things on a necessary topic.
      1. +1
        5 January 2025 20: 05
        [quoteYes, I was stunned when I came to the Bolshoi Theatre (Moscow) for the opera, attention: DEAD SOULS, and saw the posters: the opera The Story of a Real Man and the ballet The Dawns Here Are Quiet.[/quote]
        And what years? Personally, I was at the Bolshoi in 1981 for the ballet "Angara", libretto by Yevtushenka.
  6. +5
    5 January 2025 06: 41
    Quote: crypt
    - is it a difficult study?)

    Yes, we came to the institute at 8:15, and before that it was 45-50 minutes by transport. Then there was SSS, training or something similar and we returned home by 20:00 and at least two hours of independent study. Was it like that for you?
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 08: 59
      Neither Vysotsky, nor Dahl, nor Abdulov, and especially Boyarsky, were my idols then. Although they wore jeans...

      I had no idols among actors at that time. I liked the acting of E. Evsigeev, V. Shukshin, A. Leontiev. I especially singled out Efim Kopelyan.

      About the real reason for my expulsion I found out only after 30 years

      Sasha, correct me.
    2. +4
      5 January 2025 09: 42
      Yes, we came to the institute at 8:15, and before that it was 45-50 minutes by transport. Then there was SSS, training or something similar and we returned home by 20:00 and at least two hours of independent study.


      Dear Alexander.
      It's like that.
      School ends at 13.30:XNUMX p.m.
      Then work at the department as a laboratory assistant, +45 rubles to the stipend of 40 rubles.
      At 18.00:21.00 PM for training. Arrived home by XNUMX:XNUMX PM.
      On Saturday or Sunday, friends and I could sometimes unload wagons, + from 15 rubles to 25 rubles.
      It was a fun, serene and happy time.

      I didn't need money during my studies. I lived with my parents.

      P.S. In summer SSO 2 SEASONS, 350-500 rubles.
      1. BAI
        +1
        5 January 2025 12: 28
        School ends at 13.30:XNUMX p.m.

        Lucky guy. We had it until 16:30. Not every day and not on all courses.
        1. 0
          5 January 2025 13: 20
          We had it until 16:30. Not every day and not in all courses.


          We too.
  7. +4
    5 January 2025 06: 42
    Now many people draw conclusions about the "hungry 70s"
    The author made this up on the fly. A "straw man" to make it easier to refute. There is no talk of hunger during stagnation, only of the meager diet and the need to spend an absurd amount of personal time in lines.
  8. +3
    5 January 2025 06: 51
    Quote: crypt
    Because, to tell the truth, the horizons of the Soviet people were noticeably narrowed by the system of that time.

    If you didn't live at that time, then how can you write like that?
    And if you wrote it, then try to argue your thesis.
    1. +7
      5 January 2025 08: 40
      Quote: ee2100
      It all started with careerists getting into the party.

      "It all started when careerists got into the party." Oh, just don't write like that. Because then you'll be asked the question: WHO ARE THEY, THESE CAREERISTS? Marshal of Victory Zhukov, Admiral Kuznetsov, Malenkov, Molotov, aircraft designers Yakovlev and Tupolev and other DELEGATES of the 20th Congress of the CPSU, including the advanced milkmaids who silently accepted Khrushchev's speech. None of them, who were caressed by Stalin and sang his praises just THREE YEARS ago, stood up and said: "Nikita, you're wrong!" Were they afraid? What were they afraid of? Didn't they understand who had come into power? That this person would bury and was already burying everything positive that Stalin had done? In your opinion, they are careerists who had wormed their way into the party. It turns out that way... Therefore, think with your head when you try to put something down on paper! I'll say more - you wrote cheap stuff that's obvious. And this is much more dangerous than... "enemy attacks". As they say, with such friends you don't need enemies. It is not clear why I wrote this? But this is bad. And this is one of the reasons why the USSR no longer exists.
      1. -11
        5 January 2025 08: 57
        You, enemies of the USSR, present as crimes to others what you do yourself, and never admit that these are your crimes, and demand from others what you yourself are not capable of doing.
        Well, how many of you, when the communists were in power, spoke out openly against them? NO. You weren't even able to seize the USSR openly, like the Bolsheviks seized Russia, you seized the USSR with the help of your eternal lies, slander, hypocrisy. And then you cowardly shifted the responsibility for your seizure of the USSR onto those from whom you took it.
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      2. +6
        5 January 2025 10: 54
        Careerists? As a mantra, you have written several times about Zhukov, Tupolev, etc. And you, like you at that time, were exactly climbing for a career, dreaming clearly, a university, a place in the district committee, then further, fortunately, mom is also on the party line, and so on.. But the district committee did not work out, it's a shame... And what the person wrote about the 70s... what, we do not know competition? Are you choked by a toad?? Eh.. An old man should think about the soul, but no..
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 13: 43
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          a place in the district committee

          Andrey! Why do you always write about the district committee? I never wanted to be a boss. I love creative work, and my mother is a party member - she is not a secretary of the district committee, but an ordinary associate professor at a university. By the way, there were 5 of them in Penza and each had a department of the history of the CPSU. And I am writing about Zhukov because it is the truth that hurts the eyes and the same Tantra has not been able to answer him for the umpteenth time.
      3. +4
        5 January 2025 11: 28
        Quote: kalibr
        "And it all started with the fact that careerists got into the party." Oh, just don't write it like that. Because then you will be asked the question: WHO ARE THEY, THESE CAREERISTS? Marshal of Victory Zhukov, Admiral Kuznetsov, Malenkov, Molotov, aircraft designers Yakovlev and Tupolev and other DELEGATES of the 20th Congress of the CPSU, including the advanced milkmaids who silently accepted Khrushchev's speech. None of them, who were caressed by Stalin and sang his praises just THREE YEARS ago, stood up and said: "Nikita, you are wrong!" Were they afraid? What were they afraid of? Didn't they understand who had come into power?

        That's not it either must ,to push everyone for yourself. Like, what does this have to do with me, when there are those who are against it. For some reason you don’t remember Air Marshal Alexander Evgenievich Golovanov, who refused to vilify Stalin , also Rokossovsky Konstantin Konstantinovich, he did not say a word against Joseph Vissarionovich, General of the Army Gorbatov, Alexander Vasilyevich did not support Khrushchev, but after allThe last two were illegally repressed. There are plenty of people who disagreed with Khrushchev in his attacks on Stalin, but their names are not well-known.
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 13: 38
          Quote: Unknown
          He did not say a word against Joseph Vissarionovich, Army General Gorbatov, Alexander Vasilyevich did not support Khrushchev, and after all the latter two were illegally repressed.

          They didn't say anything against... But they didn't say anything for either. They kept quiet...
          1. +2
            5 January 2025 16: 24
            Quote: kalibr
            They didn't say anything against... But they didn't say anything for either. They kept quiet...

            And stop your empty talk, they all said and did not hide their opinion. Khrushchev asked Rokossovsky to write an exposing article about the Generalissimo. Rokossovsky categorically refused this offer: "Comrade Stalin is a saint to me!" Who would have published their opinions then, which ran counter to Khrushchev's? What can we say, even in 88, when you were working as a district committee member of the CPSU, the publication of Yuri Bondarev's speech at the 56th All-Union Conference of the CPSU was not welcomed, where he stated that perestroika could be compared to an airplane that was lifted into the air without knowing whether there was a landing strip at its destination. That was then, but what can we say about XNUMX, and even when The report is secret.
            1. +1
              5 January 2025 16: 29
              Quote: Unknown
              Rokossovsky responded to this proposal with a categorical refusal: “Comrade Stalin is a saint to me!”

              But he remained silent at the congress... Who knows what people said LATER behind the scenes.
            2. +1
              5 January 2025 16: 31
              Quote: Unknown
              They all spoke and did not hide their opinions.

              At the congress? Somehow their speeches against Khrushchev are not listed in the transcript. But if you know of such speeches at the congress, share the information, suddenly by some miracle you know more than me? But again... "they said"... but they had to act. To wag their tongues and... maybe. And here are government officials...
        2. 0
          6 January 2025 23: 58
          also Rokossovsky Konstantin Konstantinovich, he did not say a word against Joseph Vissarionovich, army general Gorbatov, Alexander Vasilyevich did not support Khrushchev, and after all the last two were illegally repressed.

          To be fair, both Rokossovsky and Gorbatov did not consider Stalin to be the culprit of the repressions against them, they believed that the guilt was at a lower level. They were fully rehabilitated under Stalin. Therefore, their position is quite logical.
      4. BAI
        +4
        5 January 2025 12: 35
        And it all started with the fact that careerists got into the party." Oh, just don't write like that. Because then you will be asked the question: WHO ARE THEY, THESE CAREERISTS? Marshal of Victory Zhukov, Admiral Kuznetsov, Malenkov, Molotov, aircraft designers Yakovlev and Tupolev and other DELEGATES of the 20th Congress of the CPSU, including the advanced milkmaids who silently accepted Khrushchev's speech

        No need to mix things up and hide behind famous names! There were war heroes on display, but all the administrative work was done by those for whom a party card was not a ticket to the front, but a pass to a special distribution center.
        The war wiped out the genetic pool of ideological communists. Only opportunists remained.
        Everything remains for the people, They fought for the Motherland - this is the work of the last communists.
        New ones created the Gulag Archipelago
        1. 0
          5 January 2025 12: 37
          Quote: BAI
          They fought for their country

          What you wrote does not in any way cancel out what I wrote! Think about it...
          1. BAI
            +6
            5 January 2025 13: 02
            It cancels. In our country, the government and the people have always lived and continue to live on different planets. The USSR ended when opportunism became the norm of life not among the members of the Central Committee and delegates to party congresses, but in the primary cells
            1. +3
              5 January 2025 13: 24
              Quote: BAI
              The USSR ended when opportunism became the norm of life not for members of the Central Committee and delegates to party congresses

              But isn't it always written here that "the fish rots from the head"? But it is also true that the shit from the primary cells has been climbing higher and higher. Although there was enough of it at the top to begin with.
            2. +3
              5 January 2025 13: 25
              Quote: BAI
              The USSR ended when opportunism became the norm of life not only for members of the Central Committee and delegates to party congresses,

              I see. They can...
            3. +2
              5 January 2025 21: 22
              Quote: BAI
              It cancels. In our country, the government and the people have always lived and continue to live on different planets. The USSR ended when opportunism became the norm of life not among the members of the Central Committee and delegates to party congresses, but in the primary cells

              Exactly. - "Why do you want to join the Communist Party!" ... - "Yes, because I want to make a career - to live well." This is a common conversation among young people at that time, a friendly conversation ... .. And what is this, if this is not banal failure to adapt? I joined the party not because of my convictions, but because I can’t do this and that.
      5. +4
        5 January 2025 20: 19
        Marshal of Victory Zhukov, Admiral Kuznetsov, Malenkov, Molotov, aircraft designers Yakovlev and Tupolev and other DELEGATES of the 20th Congress of the CPSU,
        In order. The "Marshal of Victory", offended by Stalin for the trophy junk, wrote in his memoirs (1969) how he wanted to consult with Colonel Brezhnev during the battles on Malaya Zemlya in 1943 (this episode is missing from Brezhnev's memoirs), Admiral Kuznetsov, who did not cancel the continuous mining of Sevastopol, knowing that the enemy Navy was not even close to the Black Sea (as a result, almost all of our losses from mines were on our own minefields), Malenkov and Molotov, who later came to their senses, but it was too late, Khrushchev Kukuruzny outplayed them, well, and what do aircraft designers have to do with it, I don't understand at all - will they arm their design bureaus and throw them to overthrow Khrushchev (For the Motherland, for Stalin)? Vyacheslav, do not explain your attempt to make a career in the ranks of the CPSU by some circumstances of irresistible force. It would have been better not to start this career; they could have been gluing together ancient fortresses.
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 21: 27
          Quote: Aviator_
          Do not explain your attempt to make a career in the ranks of the CPSU by some kind of force majeure circumstances.

          Don't you read all my comments? Where did I explain this? On the contrary, I always wrote and will write again. I was always told that the best people there get the best according to their merits. I considered myself one of many. And where else could I be? You should have heard my lectures at factories. Workers in the USSR did not have the right to refuse a lecture from a lecturer of the Knowledge Society or the Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. But they had the right to choose a lecturer!!! And the chosen lecturer received 5 rubles (without a degree) and 10 - if an associate professor. Could I miss such an opportunity? And what does this mean in practice? In order to be chosen, you had to try. Moreover, the percentage of lectures on a "free topic" was very small. That is, I had no right to close all the lectures with the topic "Mysteries of Ancient Civilizations". Let's say out of 20 lectures there were 5-6 such, no more. The rest were "at the call of the native party." And they had to be interesting to people. And aircraft designers... there was my article here about Yakovlev's memoirs. They ALL differ by year: here is Hallelujah to Stalin, "Stories of an Aircraft Designer" - Khrushchev is a good guy, "The Goal of Life" - Brezhnev is already a good guy. That is... well, it's clear what such people are called. But he made good planes.
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 21: 45
            About the designers. Your complaints were about their behavior at the 20th Congress. And there they could do nothing, like most of the delegates. First Beria suddenly turned out to be a monster, and soon - Stalin.
            You should have heard my lectures at factories. Workers in the USSR had no right to refuse a lecture from a lecturer of the Knowledge Society or the Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
            It's a good thing I didn't hear about it. We had a well-known philosopher Spirkin, the author of a textbook, who worked on this path; his dacha was nearby, so he earned extra money. After his lecture (or rather, his answers to questions about Filipino healers, the Kirilian effect, and psychics), the desire to visit this hack disappeared.
            1. 0
              5 January 2025 21: 54
              Quote: Aviator_
              It's a good thing I didn't hear it.

              You know, Sergey, I have a very peculiar opinion of you. You are certainly an excellent specialist in your field. But in social terms, you are somehow immature. Don't be offended.It's a good thing I didn't hear it.. Why do you think that I am like your Spirkin? How many times do I have to tell you that you can't lie on the Internet? That I am not writing all this for you. I don't care about virtuals at all... I am writing for those who knows personally in real life and knows exactly what I say is true. And, accordingly, knowing this, what will these people think of your immature judgment? "Another dumb techie. They tell him and he still ..." This is not at all intended for you, Sergey. Only for my friends who also read VO but do not want to comment. Their opinion is important to me. Not yours. And pretending to be better than someone they know is simply stupid to me. And even humiliating. But for some reason you do not understand this or do not want to understand it? I wonder what psychological barriers prevent this?
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 22: 03
                that I look like your Spirkin?
                Outwardly you are different. Again, he is yours, the author of the textbook on m-l philosophy. Surely you studied from it. All the best!
                1. 0
                  5 January 2025 22: 07
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  Again, he is yours, the author of the textbook on m-l philosophy. Surely you studied from it.

                  How can I remember all the authors of the textbooks of 1972-1977? I was not very interested in their authors then, as well as philosophy itself in all its forms after passing the minimum in 1984. I wish you new successes in practical and teaching activities in 2025 too.
                  1. +1
                    5 January 2025 22: 12
                    Well, this already speaks of immersion in the topic. I remember my physics textbooks (Sivukhin, Matveyev, Landsberg, Feynman, Berkeley course...), and our lectures were excellently conducted by the head of the department Zhigulev (at FALT there was a separate department of general physics, and in Dolgop the head of the department was S.P. Kapitsa - "the obvious-incredible")
                    1. +1
                      5 January 2025 22: 18
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      Well, this already speaks of immersion in the topic. I remember my physics textbooks (Sivukhin, Matveyev, Landsberg, Feynman, Berkeley course...), and our lectures were excellently conducted by the head of the department Zhigulev (at FALT there was a separate department of general physics, and in Dolgop the head of the department was S.P. Kapitsa - "the obvious-incredible")

                      Sergey! Why did I write to you that I consider you a first-class specialist? I have no doubt about it. Where did you study? And where am I? That already says a lot. And your teachers were not like mine. Although - I also remember outstanding ones. I wrote about this in the previous article, didn't I? I gave names. As did you. But you count your immersion, mine doesn't... This is not a very mature judgment, for such an advanced specialist. I was not interested in philosophy, so why the hell should I remember the author of its textbook?
                      1. 0
                        5 January 2025 22: 21
                        Among the many teachers of the medical school with whom I communicated in my youth, Spirkin's textbook was for some reason especially valued. They idolized it.
                      2. 0
                        5 January 2025 22: 29
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        They idolized him.

                        You know... I don't remember. Although I passed philosophy at the institute with flying colors. But I had an excellent memory. And the teacher was... good. But I didn't like this subject. Therefore, I can't give any rating to the textbook.
                      3. +1
                        5 January 2025 22: 55
                        And the textbook was good, written in a fairly accessible language.
            2. +1
              5 January 2025 21: 57
              Quote: Aviator_
              And there they could do nothing, like most of the delegates.

              They could have stood up and spoken. They remained silent...
      6. +2
        5 January 2025 22: 49
        You love Tupolev.) This is not the first time you mention him in this context. This is precisely why you shouldn't make claims against him. He couldn't have been a delegate to the 20th Congress. He was a non-party member all his life. Although
        was a deputy of the Supreme Soviet. Tupolev Jr. joined the party.
        1. +1
          6 January 2025 07: 22
          Quote: Sergej1972
          He was non-partisan all his life.

          Yes, I didn't think about it. I wrote it for the sake of it. But even without him there were 1349 delegates with a casting vote and 81 delegates with an advisory vote. 1349 SILENT, 1349 APPROACHES, no matter what they whispered in the corridors... No one dared to climb up to the podium.
  9. +2
    5 January 2025 06: 53
    Quote: Commissar Kitten
    Now many people draw conclusions about the "hungry 70s"

    I am precisely refuting this. Especially since the hungry years are in quotation marks. This is your perception.
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 13: 39
      You refute something that no one claims, that's what we're talking about. This is the demagogic device of "straw man" or, to put it more formally, "substitution of thesis".
  10. +4
    5 January 2025 07: 44
    I would like to point out two points to the author.
    First. When at the beginning of his article he does not name the name of the staff author of this site, whose memoirs were published here and the author of the article, Alexander Asanov, does not agree with that author, then somehow the article immediately inspired only half sincerity... Why, having published his last name to the author, is he afraid to publish the last name of that
    the staff author of this site, with whose opinion he does not agree.
    The second one.
    When talking about the Brezhnev era, that it was supposedly a stable time, one should keep in mind that a bicycle lying on its side is also stable. It does not move forward steadily...
    I will say for myself that we did not attach any importance to the words of the song, but only sang:
    Our care is simple,
    Our concern is as follows:
    May our native country live,
    And there are no other worries...
    Unfortunately, we didn't think about the country then. It seemed, why think about a country in which we are consistently well and consistently don't have to think about tomorrow. We will have stable studies, and stable work, and stable earnings, and stable rest...
    Now about the fact that some people liked watermelon, and others liked pork cartilage.
    Neither Vysotsky, nor Dal, nor Abdulov, and especially Boyarsky, were my idols then. Although they wore jeans... And in general, I believe that the assessment of their talent and their contribution to Soviet art, to put it mildly, is too exaggerated, as is the Georgian ensemble "Iveria". But the contribution of Lanovoy, Kupchenko, Yevstigneyev, Ulyanov, Pugovkin, Bystritskaya, Yankovsky, as well as the Belarusian ensemble "Pesnyary", to Soviet art is not appreciated enough, especially looking from today's times...
    1. Msi
      +6
      5 January 2025 10: 10
      inspired by sincerity only half ... Why, having published his last name to the author, he is afraid to publish the last name of that
      a staff author of this site, with whose opinion he does not agree

      Don't look for a "black cat", don't invent conspiracies. The author of this article simply argued with the author in the comments to Shpakovsky's article. And promised to write his memories of that era... request that's all.
    2. 0
      5 January 2025 10: 52
      Neither Vysotsky, nor Dal, nor Abdulov, and especially Boyarsky, were my idols then. Although they wore jeans... And in general, I believe that the assessment of their talent and their contribution to Soviet art, to put it mildly, is too exaggerated, as is the Georgian ensemble "Iveria". But the contribution of Lanovoy, Kupchenko, Yevstigneyev, Ulyanov, Pugovkin, Bystritskaya, Yankovsky, as well as the Belarusian ensemble "Pesnyary", to Soviet art is not appreciated enough, especially looking from today's times...
      Vidas, this is purely individual. The author writes about personal impressions. I remember an article in KP about "Pesnyary" in the early 70s (71-72, I was still in school). There they were pretty much scolded for their extortion and hack work. They corrected themselves.
      1. +4
        5 January 2025 11: 46
        Aviator Sergey, that's why I'm writing about my personal impressions. And my impressions were such that I didn't pay attention to who and what the actors or singers were wearing in everyday life during the Soviet era, and the impressions were left only by their roles or concerts.
        By the way, "Pesnyary" had a huge army of enemies. And if you consider that KP was then a completely controlled newspaper, then they had to find a reason to scold "Pesnyary"... after all, "Pesnyary" was better and less cloying than "Samotsvety" or other "funny guys". Just look at YouTube
        comments under the song "Pesnyary" "Alesya" performed by at least Peni or Bortkevich, such delights about the performance, you will not find under any songs of all sorts of "gems". "Pesnyary" had too little "ideology" for KP to do this
        I could easily not have scolded them. On the contrary...
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 12: 19
          then they had to find a reason to scold "Pesnyary"... after all, "Pesnyary" was better and less cloying than "Samotsvety" or other "funny guys".
          Vidas, "Samotsvety", "Vesyolye Rebyata", "Tsvety" etc. - this is somewhat later than the 70-71 years, this is the middle. And they also have no ideology, it does not fit into a lyrical song. And I do not see any cloying in them. "About the Motherland, about the Party" then no one sang except for the large choirs of the All-Union Radio and Central Television. I do not belittle Pesnyary, but at the beginning of their career they really screwed up at leftist concerts, then they came to their senses. Artists very often believe that they are underpaid and try to compensate for this.
  11. +15
    5 January 2025 07: 51
    I remember the second half of the 60s and all of the 70s as a happy time. School, the higher military school, the interests of those around me, maybe I was lucky in this, if they were connected with material well-being, then not at all as a cult. Home libraries, which were also owned by ordinary workers, were objects of pride. The most luxurious one belonged to the turner Uncle Petya, to whom children from all over the house ran "to borrow something to read". The refrigerator was always full. If anything, my father was a foundry engineer, my mother a teacher.
    1. +6
      5 January 2025 10: 46
      I didn't get to taste the student dormitory life. After the village school - urgent, then military school. In the late 70s. the senior school student on his collective farm didn't have any particular problems with part-time work. They also went to the neighboring Georgievsk to the railway station. to unload wagons. They paid 1 ruble per ton - I managed to earn 10-15 rubles per shift.
      We didn't go hungry. The refrigerator was always full.

      As for our and all our neighbors' refrigerators always being full, to be honest, I don't remember, but that we didn't go hungry is absolutely certain. On the contrary, at the request of my grandmother's friend, Aunt Lena, I more than once took "mom's groceries" to her son, a student, in the Pyatigorsk dorm. The pleasure of dragging bags on intercity buses is not the most pleasant - but as they say, there was no way out. smile
      As I write, I can’t help but remember Andryukha’s room in that same student dorm – a desk, which was also a dining table, a chair, four beds and posters of the Beatles, Smokie, Kiss and Deep Purple on the walls.
    2. +3
      5 January 2025 10: 58
      Quote: avia12005
      Home libraries, which even ordinary workers had, were a source of pride.

      Exactly!
      When I was a child, my mother sometimes sent me to my aunts in Armavir for the summer; they lived together in a two-room apartment. So, in one of their rooms, three of the four walls were covered with books up to the ceiling. He was a very well-read person, with some kind of inner core for self-organization. You won't meet people like that now! She made me read all the time - I got angry, trying to run outside to play football with the local boys.
      Later, part of her library came into my possession, which I still keep and periodically reread, despite the presence of the Internet.
  12. 0
    5 January 2025 08: 12
    The Brezhnev period was the most calm, peaceful, kind time, probably, in all centuries on the territory of Russia and the USSR.
    And compared to the results of highly paid work for 33 years of critics of the USSR - Brezhnev's "stagnation" is a huge development of the country. And, compared to their current foreign policy, the USSR under Brezhnev had excellent relations with the West. The older generation remembers the term "détente", there was political, sports, cultural cooperation between the USSR and Western countries, joint films of the USSR and Western countries were filmed, including "Blue Bird" produced by the USSR and the USA with Elizabeth Taylor.
    1. -3
      5 January 2025 09: 58
      Quote: tatra
      peaceful

      HA-HA-HA! You need to know the history of your homeland!
      1. Msi
        +4
        5 January 2025 10: 29
        You need to know the history of your homeland!

        Why not peacetime, the Brezhnev era? With what time are we comparing, that's the only question.
        1. +6
          5 January 2025 10: 53
          The only question is what time we are comparing it with.
          It's simple. With the previous ones. This *golden* decade just ended.....Afghanistan. The eighties, my house on the outskirts of Moscow... news comes about the death of a guy from *the house I live in*
      2. BAI
        +3
        5 January 2025 12: 38
        You need to know the history of your homeland!

        They did not wage wars on the territory of their own country.
        And under the Democrats - 3: 2 in Chechnya and 1 in Kursk
    2. Eug
      0
      5 January 2025 11: 03
      Only as a result of our propaganda glorifying the wisdom of the country's leadership, we perceived all this as a harbinger of the victory of our social system, but in reality it was only a temporary retreat of our ideological enemies before a strangling attack. How could one not use such an event as "untie of the dollar from gold" for teeth-grinding (against the USA) agitation? And with the Americans' flight to the Moon, as for me, not everything is clean - it would be worth "picking around" in this issue.. The Helsinki-75 Act - as for me, some of its articles should not have been signed under any circumstances.. we lived without this act.. we can continue.
    3. +1
      5 January 2025 13: 30
      The USSR under Brezhnev had excellent relations with the West. The older generation remembers the term "détente", there was political, sports, cultural cooperation between the USSR and Western countries, joint films of the USSR and Western countries were shot, including "The Blue Bird" produced by the USSR and the USA with Elizabeth Taylor.

      Well, did it help? The dull leaders of the USSR were happy with the film Blue Bird, while the West was organizing provocations wherever it could. And its goal was to destroy the USSR immediately from 1945.
      And the USSR was pumping cheap gas into Europe, increasing the well-being of Europeans to the envy of Soviet people, who in the 80s began to idolize the West en masse.
      1. -3
        5 January 2025 14: 35
        You, enemies of the USSR, are incorrigible, including, with every comparison of what you have done with what others have done, all of you equally rush to become angry against others, and none of you is capable of defending yourselves.
        And I don't need your eternal hypocrisy, your "chameleonism", you were pro-Western throughout the entire Soviet period, and you were pro-Western for a quarter of a century of your evil and cowardly anti-Soviet period. There will be another "leader" of yours, and you will again become pro-Western under his leadership.
        1. +1
          6 January 2025 01: 30
          Of course, in the USSR, especially towards the end, it was easy as pie to become a pro-Western anti-Soviet. Because the ideology had gone stale and the party had rotted. The rule "you can make mistakes, but you can't lie" (c) was consigned to the archives. I have never seen or heard so much rotten lies as before the collapse of the USSR.
          And who is to blame for this? Were the wrong people again?
  13. 0
    5 January 2025 08: 14
    a young, inexperienced young man.
    One of the rules of good literature is not to use two identical words in one sentence. The Russian language is rich and powerful!
    1. +4
      5 January 2025 09: 09
      This very Russian language allows the repetition of epithets for emphasis, dear sir.

      Structurally, this can be a repetition of an epithet with one defined word and a repetition of an epithet as part of different epiphrases, that is, with different defined words.
      1. +1
        5 January 2025 09: 50
        Quote: avia12005
        This very Russian language allows the repetition of epithets for emphasis, dear sir.

        Structurally, this can be a repetition of an epithet with one defined word and a repetition of an epithet as part of different epiphrases, that is, with different defined words.

        I didn't know that. Well, thank you!
  14. +1
    5 January 2025 08: 17
    "I found out the real reason for my expulsion"
    And it looks like there's a guy in the photo?
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 08: 41
      Quote: kalibr
      looks like a guy?

      I noticed it too. And then about the "bath after which I wanted to fly" belay
      I even thought about mechanically mixing the memories of different people. bully
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 08: 42
        Quote: Senior Sailor
        I even thought about mechanically mixing the memories of different people.

        By the way, me too. Didn't have time to write...
    2. Msi
      +5
      5 January 2025 10: 21
      I found out the real reason for my expulsion"
      And it looks like there's a guy in the photo?

      Everyone noticed. Only not everyone commented. Typo, it happens...
  15. 0
    5 January 2025 08: 20
    Most of the main oil and gas pipelines that Russia is now actively using were built in the 60s and 70s. Deposits were explored. City-forming enterprises were built.
    VAZ-2101 was released in 1972.
    KAMAZ - 1976

    Why is this in the genre of personal memoirs? Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! Or does this confirm their authenticity?
    1. +7
      5 January 2025 09: 10
      You don't like Brezhnev so much that you delve into grammar. And what, the launch of VAZ and KAMAZ can't be personal memories for the generation of the 60s?
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 09: 52
        Quote: avia12005
        You don't like Brezhnev so much

        If you read my material, then the time from 72 to 77 is called "golden". But in the article about personal perception, I did not write about BAM anywhere. And in the context of this article, these inserts sound simply cheap.
        1. -1
          5 January 2025 17: 51
          Quote: kalibr
          in the article about personal perception, I didn't write about BAM anywhere

          personal memories are of different levels after all... eras, countries, republics, cities, schools/institutes/first place of work...
          news about BAM, songs, - is (for me personally) part of personal memories... if you remember the film "Tenderness to the Roaring Beast", well for me these are also personal memories - during my studies at the institute these animals sometimes flew over my head ten times a day and really motivated me to study personally, so that I could also put my hand to something similar... is this a personal animal (and the film as well) or not?.. :)

          if it were only about studying, then I would have remembered the cafeteria, and movie nights with films from the state film fund, and discos... and no BAMs, a different level

          or about everything together, if without the "scientific approach" and "literary experience" :)
      2. +4
        5 January 2025 13: 01
        You don’t like Brezhnev so much that you delve into grammar.

        Today, for some reason, Shpakovsky "got carried away." In some places, he even stooped to rudeness, which never happened to him before. Perhaps the excess of New Year's Olivier salad is taking its toll.
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 13: 33
          Quote: Amateur
          Perhaps the excess of New Year's Olivier salad is taking its toll.

          "Do not judge rashly, says the Gospel and the Cardinal."
        2. 0
          5 January 2025 20: 30
          Today, for some reason, Shpakovsky "got carried away." In some places, he even stooped to rudeness, which never happened to him before. Perhaps the excess of New Year's Olivier salad is taking its toll.
          It happened, it happened, and more than once. But now I'm really going crazy. I hope the Olivier salad has already been eaten.
    2. +3
      5 January 2025 10: 06
      O Vyacheslav Olegovich saw a competitor in the fertile field of anti-Soviet "memories".
      I fully support Shpakovsky’s criticism: an anti-Soviet person should under no circumstances mention the achievements of the USSR.
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 10: 09
        Quote: Dozorny_ severa
        saw a competitor

        Are you kidding? What a competitor they found for me...
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 10: 58
          Well of course, We are SHPAKOVSKY!!! Don't dare object:))
          1. -1
            5 January 2025 12: 07
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            Don't dare object

            Why? Object to the point. But as a professional journalist, a member of the Union of Journalists of Russia and the International Federation of Journalists, I can clearly see all the downsides of this material. I wouldn't give my student more than a 3 for it.
            1. +2
              5 January 2025 12: 20
              And what about not all the regalia?? And what about the calls, like write it yourself?? The man drew it and here you go, let's hit him with slippers
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 12: 22
                Quote: Andrey VOV
                And what about the calls, like write it yourself?? A person drew it and here you go, let's hit him with slippers

                Yes, write. And I will tell you too. But write well. First, look at how and what others write. Look at the comments. Lenin also called for studying.
                1. +1
                  5 January 2025 13: 12
                  Lenin also encouraged people to study.

                  Actually, Lenin called for
                  "Our slogan must be one - learn military science in the present manner"

                  For you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, a professional historian, it is somehow indecent to "distort" quotes.
                  1. +2
                    5 January 2025 13: 30
                    Quote: Amateur
                    For you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, a professional historian, it is somehow indecent to "distort" quotes.

                    I didn't mean this quote, but a completely different one. "Study, study, and study again" is a phrase written by Lenin in his work "The Backward Direction of Russian Social Democracy" in 1899.
                    1. +2
                      5 January 2025 13: 49
                      Vyacheslav Olegovich! I was not lazy and read this article by V.U.
                      among the workers there is a growing passionate desire for knowledge and for socialism, among the workers there are real heroes who - despite the ugly circumstances of their lives, despite the stupefying hard labor in the factory - find in themselves enough character and willpower to study, study, study and develop from themselves conscious social democrats, the "working intelligentsia". In Russia there is already this "working intelligentsia", and we must make every effort to ensure that its ranks are constantly

                      So where in this quote does V.I. call for “studying...”
                      That's why you are still "distorting" things.
                      ps Happy New Year 25. I'm waiting for your interesting historical articles (except anti-Soviet ones)
                      1. 0
                        5 January 2025 13: 52
                        Quote: Amateur
                        (except for anti-Soviet ones)

                        I don't have any anti-Soviet articles at all. I have articles that analyze the negative phenomena that were inherent to our society in the past and that caused its collapse. If we don't analyze the mistakes of the past, it will repeat itself, and in the worst possible way.
                      2. +1
                        5 January 2025 13: 59
                        I don't have any anti-Soviet articles at all.

                        You think not, I think there is. I just have 4 grandchildren 21, 20, 14 and 12 years old and I don't want them (or their peers) to think badly of the USSR if they suddenly read your articles for some reason.
                      3. 0
                        5 January 2025 14: 03
                        Quote: Amateur
                        thought badly of the USSR,

                        Then what will you answer them if they ask you why such a good country has gone under? Will you say "they snuck in and are destroying it"? By the way, that was the title of one of my articles here? And they will answer you: why didn't our communists "there" snuck in and destroy it? Why did the conscious communists let the "destroyers" through? Where was the almighty KGB looking? Nowadays, "children" of 21,20,14, 12, XNUMX and XNUMX years old are very smart. They can even ask "Alice"... And will you tell them fairy tales?
                      4. +2
                        5 January 2025 14: 18
                        They might even ask "Alice"... And will you tell them fairy tales?

                        They can ask "Alice", because like most modern children they don't read anything and don't want to, they just sit on the Internet. And "Alice" can even retell them your anti-Soviet article, because Russia's information space, unfortunately, is controlled by its enemies.
                        Well, I'll tell them a fairy tale about the USSR like this: my grandmother was left a widow with three children in 1927. The eldest graduated from medical school and became a doctor. My mother graduated from pedagogical school and became a teacher. The youngest graduated from the energy department of the Polytechnic and became an engineer. I graduated from the institute and became an engineer, and my parents didn't pay a penny for admission or for tuition. We had to pay for the education of the eldest daughter because she studied under a contract. We had to pay for the admission of the youngest daughter because there was no commercial training in the specialty she chose. The eldest grandchildren are now studying, having taken out a loan to pay for their education, and this debt will hang on them for a long time. That's the "fairy tale".
                      5. -1
                        5 January 2025 14: 21
                        Quote: Amateur
                        This is such a "fairy tale".

                        You haven't answered any of my questions in essence. So the same will happen to your children. And you will lose all your parental authority in their eyes. They will say: why didn't you, daddy, get involved in everything that was free? And the others, if everything was so cool?
                      6. +3
                        5 January 2025 14: 23
                        Let's engage in demagogy? And you didn't explain why the quote from Lenin was falsified?
                      7. -2
                        5 January 2025 14: 24
                        Quote: Amateur
                        And you didn’t explain why the quote from Lenin was falsified?

                        It's just that I don't remember all the PSS by heart anymore... After all, many years have passed since '91.
                      8. +3
                        5 January 2025 14: 30
                        It's just that I don't remember all the PSS by heart anymore... After all, many years have passed since '91.

                        You have a strange memory. "I remember here, I don't remember there." Like a card sharper. At the same time, I return your question to you.
                        And you will lose all your parental authority in their eyes.
                      9. -1
                        5 January 2025 15: 23
                        Quote: Amateur
                        You have a strange memory. "I remember this, I don't remember that."

                        at 70 and after covid, alas, so. There is another peculiarity. Everyone who knows me personally knows it: I can't remember the full names of the people I communicate with. It was like that even before covid. This is even stranger... It took me years to remember someone... But I remember the thickness of the frontal armor on the Tiger or the caliber of the Yamato guns well
                      10. +2
                        5 January 2025 15: 30
                        I'm 73, 2BO (communications engineer and economics) and have a bad career. I remember a lot in detail. But when I go to the store, I always make a list on a piece of paper first. Alas!
                        Happy New Year and of course good health!
                      11. +1
                        5 January 2025 16: 15
                        Quote: Amateur
                        But when I go to the store, I always make a list on a piece of paper first.

                        Same thing. Only my wife writes the instructions for me. I wish you health too. For me, to stay in shape, I have to squat 20 times several times a day, walk 6000 steps a day... Truly, movement is life...
                      12. 0
                        5 January 2025 14: 22
                        Quote: Amateur
                        And "Alice" can even retell them your anti-Soviet article,

                        And very convincing, by the way... To which you, like my questions, have nothing to counter. Notice how Tatra deflated after my question about the 20th Congress? And you will have nothing to answer it either.
                      13. BAI
                        +2
                        5 January 2025 16: 01
                        How did Tatra deflated after my question about the 20th Congress?

                        The one with almost swearing? Or maybe she, as a cultured woman, simply started ignoring you after such language towards a woman?
                      14. -1
                        5 January 2025 16: 16
                        Quote: BAI
                        Maybe

                        You seem to be guessing a lot today. It would have been easier for me to answer BEFORE..., at first it was more than polite.
                      15. +1
                        5 January 2025 14: 36
                        Why is no one discussing how the nobles destroyed the Russian Empire?
                      16. BAI
                        +1
                        5 January 2025 15: 58
                        They might also ask "Alice"...

                        I have a speaker with Alice. The only person who communicates with it is the cat. The cat purrs, Alice plays classical music for her. And now Alice has declared that her name is Jane and plays rock and roll for the cat.
                      17. +1
                        5 January 2025 14: 05
                        Not only the 90s, but also the XNUMXs are already in the past...
                    2. +2
                      5 January 2025 20: 36
                      "Study, study and study again"
                      As far as I remember, he repeated this at the 3rd Congress of the RKSM in 1920, "to learn communism." All other leaders of the USSR, starting with Khrushch Kukuruzny, repeated the mantra "Work, work and work" for Komsomol congresses. They probably thought that they had already learned everything.
              2. +2
                5 January 2025 13: 08
                But to me, as a professional journalist, members of the Union of Journalists of Russia and the International Federation of Journalists,

                I don’t know about journalists, but engineers have a joke:
                Three stages of inder degradation
                - forgets how to count on a slide rule
                - forgets the multiplication table
                - attaches a "float" to the jacket (there was such a diamond
                - a sign of receiving higher education at a university)

                Because there is nothing else to brag about and confirm your qualifications with.
                1. 0
                  5 January 2025 14: 08
                  Quote: Amateur
                  Because there is nothing else to brag about and confirm your qualifications with.

                  Somehow your system of stages is wrong. And academic degrees - candidate of technical sciences, doctor of technical sciences, corresponding member and so on... don't they count?
                  1. +3
                    5 January 2025 20: 41
                    And academic degrees - candidate of technical sciences, doctor of technical sciences, corresponding member and so on... don't they count?
                    These count. But PhD, DSc and so on don't count.
        2. +1
          5 January 2025 16: 54
          They've found me some competition...

          Nevertheless, the article "went" to readers. At 16:30 - 225 comments
          1. +2
            5 January 2025 16: 59
            Overall - I went in. "Let's make sure" that there will be 300 before midnight? tongue
            1. +1
              5 January 2025 22: 03
              You were right, by 22:00 it's already over 300
          2. +1
            5 January 2025 18: 01
            Quote: Richard
            Nevertheless, the article was well received by readers.

            But not without my participation, right? How many of them did not count personally in my address? By the way, I keep an eye on the rating all the time. At first it dropped, then it regained the dropped, then it went into the plus. Although not by much. Do you understand what this means?
    3. BAI
      +1
      5 January 2025 12: 42
      Or maybe the author saw these cars and they made a lasting impression on him?
      I wrote about Kamaz in a school essay on a free topic (the first Kamaz in the city was given to a classmate's father)
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 12: 47
        Quote: BAI
        Or maybe the author saw these cars and they made a lasting impression on him?

        If you have to guess or speculate about the text, it is not a very good text.
  16. +6
    5 January 2025 08: 29
    Self-sufficiency! Has anyone heard of such a thing? Everything that was around, everything was mine. Free education, free medicine. I didn't know the word "homeless". No one rummaged through the trash. By the way, in our area everyone wore hats, not these nonsense that the author has on his head. Experience, who can now travel back and forth on the railway. And after the army, after working, I went to submit documents 2000 km away. Having submitted them, I went back the same day.
    For some reason, everyone writes about how they lacked food or some privileges. The funniest thing is that now there is no sausage, no jeans. Just as I did not go to the Seychelles during the Soviet era, I still can't.
    But stability is of great importance, and now!..
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 09: 51
      Quote: Gardamir
      Self-sufficiency! Has anyone heard of such a thing? Everything that was around, everything was mine. Free education, free medicine. I didn't know the word "homeless". No one was rummaging through the garbage.

      All sorts of nasty things on display, there used to be less of course, in Europe and the USA the same, but believe me there was enough of them, and the bulk of the population lived poorer, you can't really turn around. This is all due to a lack of information, cut off the Internet now, mobile communications, start censoring mail and leave the first two buttons on the TV for viewing, you will have stability over the edge and confidence in the future at least to burst, and all sorts of rumors about problems can be attributed to the machinations of enemies or excesses on the ground, because we can't have that. Look at our TV, we have the first economy of freezing Europe, we are calmly defeating all 50 countries of the crumbling NATO on the battlefield, and everything seems to be fine, that same confidence should appear, but for some reason there are many doubters on the site, apparently they have listened to the enemy's voices.
      1. +3
        5 January 2025 11: 24
        There were certainly fewer of these nasty, disgusting things on display before, in Europe and the USA

        You know, yes! I first learned about drug addicts before moving, in my old apartment, as a nine-year-old boy. How? There were no disposable syringes then, but? But needles were constantly found in the entryway. This is on Troitskaya.
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 11: 45
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          There were certainly fewer of these nasty, disgusting things on display before, in Europe and the USA

          You know, yes! I first learned about drug addicts before moving, in my old apartment, as a nine-year-old boy. How? There were no disposable syringes then, but? But needles were constantly found in the entryway. This is on Troitskaya.

          A small regional center, Brezhnev is still sane, there is a hemp factory in the city, hemp fields are around them and the factory is guarded by soldiers from a neighboring unit, with machine guns, all in an adult manner, we little ones don't understand why? After all, the whole city dries laundry on the ropes from this factory. They explained when a guy from the neighboring house was stabbed to death in a tractor brigade by other high-flyers while trying to remove pollen from the augers of a combine.
          1. +5
            5 January 2025 11: 51
            They explained when a guy from the neighboring house was stabbed to death in a tractor brigade by other high-flyers while trying to remove pollen from the augers of a combine harvester.
            That's what I'm talking about, my friend! There were a lot of such significant, but... *parochial* signals! But? The main thing is that at that time? *an unbreakable bloc of party and non-party members*. General??? *We approve*! By the way? The author is being a little disingenuous. What am I talking about? About his small business. bully
      2. +5
        5 January 2025 11: 27
        listened to the enemy's voices.

        Ooooh! This is a song! *Seva Novgorodtsev, London, BBC....* bully
        1. +3
          5 January 2025 11: 50
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          listened to the enemy's voices.

          Ooooh! This is a song! *Seva Novgorodtsev, London, BBC....* bully
          All this could only be listened to against the backdrop of a wild information hunger and the fact that it was prohibited.
          1. +6
            5 January 2025 11: 53
            Yes! And it was! Just like the fact that our beloved *Tatra* bought jeans from speculators!!! This is....hypocrisy. laughing
            1. +4
              5 January 2025 12: 23
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              Yes! And it was! Just like the fact that our beloved *Tatra* bought jeans from speculators!!! This is....hypocrisy. laughing

              My father is a urologist, my mother is a shoe store saleswoman, women's shoe department bully, an uncle in those years a taxi driver in Moscow, when I grew up asking about the universal equality of "ordinary people" usually laughed. The uncle told such stories about the crime of the 70-80s that I understood where the 90s came from, they didn't have any crime of course.
              1. +6
                5 January 2025 12: 31
                My father is a urologist, my mother is a shoe store saleswoman, the women's shoe department is bully, my uncle was a taxi driver in Moscow in those years,

                Now let's compare. Father - well??? You can consider, a stoker, mother - a kindergarten worker, in hard times (they lived hard, but? they survived). But Moscow? And they are trying to tell us that we are always like cheese in clover???? Yes, enough of these fables about *Moscow* and working Moscow!!!
                1. +4
                  5 January 2025 20: 45
                  Yes, enough of these fables about *Moscow* and working Moscow!!!
                  As for today's "labor Moscow" - it is now the capital of clerks and bankers. Even the Frezer station was renamed "Andronovka", since there is no such plant anymore. I won't even mention ZIL.
              2. +2
                5 January 2025 14: 40
                ...hypocrisy is that our beloved *Tatra* bought jeans from speculators!!!

                Why such a strange conclusion, Seryozha? You write - hypocrisy, but Tatra, I suspect, did not try on the jeans on her face when buying them wink
                And then, what's wrong with Irina buying jeans:
                “Everything about a person should be beautiful: his face, his clothes, his soul, and his thoughts” - a quote from Anton Chekhov’s play “Uncle Vanya”
                1. -1
                  6 January 2025 07: 22
                  Why such a strange conclusion, Seryozha? You write - hypocrisy, but Tatra, I suspect, did not try on the jeans on her face when buying them

                  And because we didn’t even know how to produce these jeans! Just don’t tell me about *Vereya*, or whatever they were called.
                  And then, what's wrong with Irina buying jeans:

                  There is nothing wrong with that, but? You, my dear friend, do you want to go THERE again? I don't. Why? Because at the moment EVERYTHING depends on me, and not on the uncles from the Central Committee of the CPSU.
                  1. +2
                    7 January 2025 17: 35
                    At the moment EVERYTHING depends on me, and not on the uncles from the Central Committee of the CPSU.
                    Phil, do you seriously think that EVERYTHING now depends only on you, and not on the uncles from the Administration of the current President?
    2. +2
      5 January 2025 13: 26
      My stipend in my 5th year was 45 rubles. My wife, a second-year student, had 30. Total for two was 75 rubles. Full-time students had a 50% discount on air tickets. So we boldly took tickets to Novosibirsk for the May holidays of 1974, which cost 34 rubles each, where my wife's parents lived, and flew to them for either 3 or 4 days. Total: 34/2*2 (there) + 34/2*2 (back) = 68 rubles. And there were still 7 rubles left! True, 5 of them had to be given to the cashier at the box office in Novosibirsk to buy return tickets, which, as it were, did not exist. That was the kind of Soviet/student economy we had. fellow
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 15: 15
        Quote: Amateur
        tickets 50%. Therefore, we boldly took tickets to Novosibirsk for the May holidays of 1974, which cost 34 rubles/item, where the wife's parents lived, and flew to them for either 3 or 4 days. Total: 34/2*2 (there) + 34/2*2 (back) = 68 rubles.

        if the ticket cost 34 rubles, then there/back for 2x: 34X4 = 136 rubles, not 68
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 15: 23
          You should read more carefully what is written.
          Full-time students were given a 50% discount on air tickets...

          34x4/2=68
          ps The discount was provided upon presentation to the Aeroflot ticket office when purchasing a ticket of a student ID card valid at the time of purchase (with all the stamps). But whether a passport was needed when purchasing an air ticket - I don't remember. It seems that this requirement appeared later.
          1. ANB
            +1
            5 January 2025 19: 42
            . But I don't remember whether a passport was needed when buying an air ticket. It seems like this requirement appeared later.

            It is not needed. Otherwise, the plot of The Irony of Fate... would not have been able to take place.
            1. +1
              5 January 2025 20: 53
              Otherwise, the plot of The Irony of Fate... would not have been able to take place.
              Well, Ryazanov and Braginsky are creative people, they have come up with even worse things - for example, in the film "Beware of the Car" - how would the accounting department of an orphanage have processed these transfer funds in Soviet times? They couldn't.
          2. 0
            5 January 2025 20: 51
            A passport was required when returning a ticket; when purchasing a ticket, a student card was sufficient.
      2. +1
        5 January 2025 20: 49
        In my 5th year, my scholarship was 45 rubles.
        Up until my 4th year it was 55 rubles, for 5,6th and 75th years - 735 rubles. A plane ticket to Orenburg from Bykovo (flight 24, flies all night with a layover in Kuibyshev) - 50 rubles, and with student 1976% discounts (before 12) - 1976 rubles. It was very comfortable. True, after 30 the discounts were reduced to XNUMX%.
  17. +2
    5 January 2025 08: 42
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: ammunition
    The description is quite accurate.

    Fifty percent, if not more, would describe the seventies in the same vein.

    Judging by your comment, more than 50% of the population was happy with the life they had in the 70s, but now what percentage are happy with their lives?
  18. +3
    5 January 2025 08: 48
    Quote: kalibr
    catches the eye

    As our Russian teacher told us, either cats or beloved women catch the eye, but everything else attracts attention.
    1. +7
      5 January 2025 09: 12
      One is struck by an apologist for French buns, looking for mistakes in the texts of his opponents.
      1. +2
        5 January 2025 09: 54
        Quote: avia12005
        The opponents have mistakes in their texts.

        When people look for mistakes in my texts in exactly the same way, it's normal. But here you nobly close your eyes. "Double standards", oh-oh
        1. +3
          5 January 2025 12: 19
          Honestly, I pay more attention to the meaning of what is said, including yours.
      2. -2
        5 January 2025 09: 55
        Quote: avia12005
        opponents

        Do you seriously consider this childish babble as opposition to me? It's funny...
        1. +6
          5 January 2025 11: 19
          Quote: kalibr
          Quote: avia12005
          opponents

          Do you seriously consider this childish babble as opposition to me? It's funny...

          *Stop, sir! Stop!* laughing
          VO, your interpersonal relationships exceed the needs of your readers. laughing
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 12: 13
            Quote: ArchiPhil
            exceed the needs of your readers.

            You said it well. But please note that I am generally very liberal towards "colleagues in the trade", especially beginners. I offer to help them. And this author, if he decided to write a critical article on my previous material, could well have contacted, if not me, then, say, such a master of words as Roman Skomorokhov, and asked for help at the beginning of his creative path. Yes, I myself would gladly read his material and even edit it to make it more weighty and interesting. And the author could agree with my recommendations, or he could disagree. But no... we are all "our own masters".
            1. +4
              5 January 2025 12: 17
              But no... we are all "our own masters".

              *Swords in sheaths, gentlemen, swords in sheaths!* laughing
              Skomorokhov

              Eh!!!! Was there such an author on VO...i? He is gone. A. Privalov. This is in response to Roman. Oopssss!
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 12: 19
                Quote: ArchiPhil
                A. Privalov. This is in response to Roman.

                I remember, of course. But Roman's articles on social issues are also a wonderful example of journalistic work, aren't they?
                1. +4
                  5 January 2025 12: 22
                  Vyacheslav Olegovich! Write everything concerning the relationship between Roman and Privalov to my e-mail address. I assure you, everything there is ambiguous. The result is the same. There are fewer of you, good authors.
            2. +1
              5 January 2025 20: 55
              with such a master of words as Roman Skomorokhov,
              Is it because he's now the editor-in-chief? Counted!
              1. 0
                5 January 2025 21: 34
                Quote: Aviator_
                This is why you

                No. It's because he really has very good articles on the social plan. It's an objective judgment. Sometimes I even wonder where it comes from. And another example of the fact that there are many people who can do something better than me. And why shouldn't they say so, what's so special about it?
        2. +1
          5 January 2025 12: 20
          You are dizzy from your own genius, sir...

          In my opinion, I did not see any particular criticism of your articles in this text. There is a dispute, yes.
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 12: 20
            Quote: avia12005
            You are dizzy from your own genius, sir...

            I think I just wrote that Roman Skomorokhov has good articles. No?
            1. +4
              5 January 2025 12: 23
              Like everyone, there are good materials, and there are superficial ones with factual errors. But this does not mean that it is bad or good.
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 12: 27
                Quote: avia12005
                As with everything, there are good materials and superficial ones with factual errors.

                Then why do you attribute to me the dizziness of genius? I have written many times that there are many people who are much more talented than me, in all respects, including in the field of journalism. There are those on the same level. But there are many more for whom it is as if to the Moon. And for some reason it is precisely they who get the most furious...
                1. +3
                  5 January 2025 12: 30
                  In your comments to the text I saw a shade of arrogance and superiority. It looks ugly.
                  1. +1
                    5 January 2025 12: 33
                    Quote: avia12005
                    I saw a hint of arrogance and superiority.

                    If we were in the ring, the difference in weight would be immediately apparent. There is no visual here. I have to write it this way. And again, you see: obvious ... (a word forbidden in VO), without a second thought, they judge and write about everything from the position of their own superiority. And I, then, am not allowed? Where, for example, in which of my articles did you see an apology for French buns? But you allow yourself to do this, but I cannot.
                    1. +2
                      5 January 2025 12: 38
                      The man wrote his personal memoirs. To judge him from the point of view of a professional journalist as a journalist is fundamentally wrong. It is possible to argue with his point of view. To evaluate the text itself, even in a derogatory way, from the point of view of grammar and spelling, I think is wrong. In this way, one can end up criticizing, for example, any memoirs, where words and expressions remain, typical for the environment where the author was.
                      1. +1
                        5 January 2025 12: 40
                        Quote: avia12005
                        The man wrote his personal memoirs.

                        I will remember these words of yours and everything else. Until my next material... There will also be words and expressions typical of the environment where the author was staying
                      2. +4
                        5 January 2025 12: 40
                        Great idea, I think it will be interesting and entertaining.
                      3. +1
                        5 January 2025 12: 56
                        Quote: avia12005
                        Great idea, I think it will be interesting and entertaining.

                        By the way, I reread the material from the 26th again. I still don't understand what the author of this material disagrees with. What's wrong with it?
                      4. +5
                        5 January 2025 13: 00
                        Great idea, I think it will be interesting and entertaining.

                        You know? Not at all! I'll explain what the matter is. Regardless of their relationship, the article is very personal, *one's own* - suffered. Is that so? It happens. *The seventies* are their own for everyone. And then? *Personal* started, which in my opinion does not paint either of them in a good light. It happens, but forgive me... No need! In the opinion of a guy without a higher education.
                      5. +2
                        5 January 2025 12: 54
                        I will remember these words of yours and everything else. D
                        You are wrong!
                      6. +3
                        5 January 2025 12: 54
                        The man wrote his personal memoirs. Judge him from his point of view

                        You're right!
      3. +3
        5 January 2025 12: 38
        One is struck by an apologist for French buns, looking for mistakes in the texts of his opponents.

        Nothing catches the eye! Just like then, but we all live... very differently. In which the author is right. Everything depends on the individual.
        1. +4
          5 January 2025 13: 26
          apologist for French buns
          .
          Cool!!! Although, to be honest, all my fellow countrymen from the collective farms could easily be considered "apologists of French buns" in the late seventies - these buns were instantly bought up when they appeared in the village store against the background of ordinary white and gray bread "bricks". And although they began to be called "city" only in the early fifties, renamed from "French" on the wave of the fight against sycophancy, in everyday life they were still called "French" for a long time.
    2. 0
      5 January 2025 19: 18
      Captain RN (a Leningrad Russian without an accent) told me that the full power of the Russian language was revealed to him in this idiom.
  19. +2
    5 January 2025 09: 28
    Quote: Richard
    found out

    I probably won't be able to anymore. I tried.
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 10: 28
      I can't

      Hi Sasha! Thanks for the article. In my opinion? Quite controversial. In what way? Well, if I feel like it, I'll explain. But for now? About my favorite hockey. So... Yakushev? *snag*???! You know, according to the Canadians, in particular Phil Esposito (and not only him!), they recognized Yakushev as the most useful player of the USSR team! And they called him, of course, at the instigation of journalists, nothing less than - *Yak-15*! In general? Yes, the seventies were the most peaceful time in our history.
      1. +1
        5 January 2025 13: 00
        Hello, Sergey!
        For SKA fans he was an "enemy"))) and giving him such a nickname, YAK-15, is a sign of special respect.
        "Snag" is what he looked like when he went on the attack. First he would skate behind the goal and receive the puck as he left his zone. His left shoulder was higher, his head was slightly lowered, and his right arm was far in front, and all this with a height of over one meter ninety.
        And in Leningrad, many went to see players of Yakushev's level. SKA didn't shine particularly.
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        Quite controversial

        So I wrote that these are my youthful memories-perceptions. And how I see this time now.
        1. +5
          5 January 2025 13: 04
          For SKA fans it is

          For whom???? Yes, *SKA* in general in those years was just... A hockey defect.
          I see it now.

          What has changed? It's sickening to look at this Vrotenberg of yours!!!
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 13: 51
            This is the Moscow hockey chauvinist speaking in you))))
            One city - one team!
  20. +4
    5 January 2025 10: 00
    were handed over per year 105 млн. square meters of housing

    Free housing!

    And now 80 million square meters of industrial housing are being introduced per year. Into predatory mortgages.

    During Brezhnev's rule, the population increased by more than 40 million human.

    And during the reign of our Tsar - by tens of millions of migrants.
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 11: 39
      Free housing!

      We had to wait for it. Isn't that right? You know, my friend? Hypocrisy! That's what's ruining our country. A simple example. You know that under Emperor Alexander III, the Arabs at court received as much as 3 rubles! And an official at the Ministry of the Imperial Court only 300. What am I getting at? When will our leadership become concerned about the needs of us, sinners, simple inhabitants of the empire, the USSR, or the Russian Federation? Then maybe? I repeat, but you can't keep the INDIGENOUS people of the country in a secondary role. You can't. It's simple.
  21. -5
    5 January 2025 10: 02
    Another dismal anti-Soviet propaganda piece.
    Somehow the genre of memoirs has become popular on the resource.
    What is useful in this material? Nothing. Once again, the damned communists offended some exemplary citizen - they didn’t give him food or entertainment.
    At the same time, the author contradicts himself - in one place he calls the 70s the beginning of the collapse, in another he claims that this was a time of stability and everything was being built. A split personality - and nothing more.
    In general, anti-Soviet agitators are mobilizing the last reserve - pensioners who, in collaboration with Alzheimer, convey to readers the burning truth about the damned Soviet Union, in the form of memoirs.
    The article is garbage.
  22. Msi
    +2
    5 January 2025 10: 03
    It was quite difficult to study: 2 classes and a lecture

    Isn't this normal? Is this a lot? request
    When people talked about the time when they ate poorly and little, my grandfather always answered: "... Yes, we ate "little", why did we barely have time to clean the toilet..." laughing (This was said about the village toilet). Those who worked ate well. In the villages they had large farms: pigs, a cow, lots of poultry, a vegetable garden. My mother worked as a saleswoman in a store in a small town in the early 70s. Now she says there was sausage, but no one bought it and it spoiled... But why buy it if there are villages all around, everyone has relatives, everyone's parents have farms.
    Yes, the 70s were a good time. This was probably the peak, the dawn of our country, and then only decline. Alas...
    Nice nice article. Easy to read. Thanks to the author.
    1. 0
      5 January 2025 14: 48
      Quote from Msi
      Yes, the 70s were a good time. This was probably the peak, the dawn of our country.

      for all?
      Average pension size of collective farmers in the Vologda region (rubles per month)

      1970 -14,06 rub, minimum - 12 rub.
      it's nothing.
      1. Msi
        +1
        5 January 2025 14: 51
        Average pension size of collective farmers in the Vologda region (rubles per month)

        1970 - 14,06 rubles, minimum - 12 rubles.

        People had their own farms, vegetable gardens. I'm not saying it's easy, it's very hard, working from dawn to dusk. But people lived and worked, fell in love, had children...
    2. +1
      5 January 2025 23: 19
      My numerous rural relatives, who in the past raised a large number of different livestock, always tried to buy sausages whenever possible.)
  23. -1
    5 January 2025 10: 12
    Quote: ee2100
    Judging by your comment, more than 50% of the population was happy with the life they had in the 70s, but now what percentage are happy with their lives?

    The percentage of people satisfied with life is especially high in Kursk and Donetsk, where satisfaction rates have already exceeded 110%.
  24. 0
    5 January 2025 10: 13
    Quote: Stas157
    And now 80 million square meters of industrial housing are being introduced per year. Into predatory mortgages.

    Note that on old communications inherited from the USSR.
  25. +3
    5 January 2025 10: 16
    The error occurred at the time of the start of production of VAZ 2101
    The first six VAZ-2101 cars were assembled on April 19, 1970,
    For the release of this model in May 1972, the Volga Automobile Plant was awarded an international prize.
    (C)
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 10: 46
      I’ll clarify.
      For the release of this model in May 1972, the Volga Automobile Plant was awarded an international prize (C)

      The award was called *Golden Mercury*. Well, you know what....*Fiat -124*! laughing True, up to 800 design innovations were introduced? But was it even a purely Soviet car? bully
      1. BAI
        +2
        5 January 2025 12: 47
        Is it true that up to 800 design innovations were introduced?

        I have a VAZ 2101 from 1972. In the engine, on the large bolts Fiat is written
        1. +3
          5 January 2025 13: 08
          large bolts fiat written

          Definitely an antique. I know the engine hasn't been overhauled.
          So the question is? A Soviet car? Your own? bully
      2. +4
        5 January 2025 13: 25
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        Did it even exist? A purely Soviet car?

        Moskvich 412 is a completely original Soviet modern car for the 1970s, with a modern domestic engine
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 14: 01
          Moskvich 412
          It's okay that they called it a Soviet *BMW*, it's funny, understandable. We don't have our own developments, no.
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 15: 55
            Quote: ArchiPhil
            It's okay that they called it a Soviet *BMW*, it's funny, understandable. We don't have our own developments, no.

            The Moskvich 412 is exactly like that: the Soviet engine was not a copy of the BMW but of the German engine - a cast-iron cylinder block and a different combustion chamber, as well as a completely different arrangement of the attachments. The presence of removable sleeves in the aluminum block of the Moskvich made it easy to repair the unit.
            The body is also original. The gearbox is bad, but it's ours.
            1. +2
              5 January 2025 16: 00
              412
              What was there of your own????
              1. +3
                5 January 2025 16: 02
                What was there of your own????
                engine, body, box
                1. +1
                  5 January 2025 16: 06
                  Do you have anything to do with it at all? You see, we, the USSR, the Russian Federation, in general. Never! have had anything to do with car manufacturing. At all.
                2. +2
                  5 January 2025 16: 10
                  engine

                  It's like in the movie about Fantomas. Better than nothing at all. Or? Superfamily72.! Nothing.
                  1. +2
                    5 January 2025 16: 11
                    Quote: ArchiPhil
                    engine

                    It's like in the movie about Fantomas. Better than nothing at all. Or? Superfamily72.! Nothing.

                    engine for 1970--excellent
                    1. +1
                      5 January 2025 16: 13
                      Yeah, Fantomas is awesome!
                      1. +2
                        5 January 2025 16: 14
                        Quote: ArchiPhil
                        Yeah, Fantomas is awesome!


                        Fantomas is a LuAZ! hi
                      2. 0
                        5 January 2025 16: 17
                        LuAZ
                        [quote][/quote].
                        We are generally... nowhere.
                      3. +2
                        5 January 2025 16: 37
                        Fantomas is a LuAZ!
                        No, Fantomas is YerAZ!
                      4. +1
                        5 January 2025 20: 06
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        No, Fantomas is YerAZ!

                        essentially - yes, too
                        And according to popular opinion - LuAZ.
        2. +2
          5 January 2025 14: 02
          Moskvich 412
          и

          For patriotism - *+*.
      3. BAI
        +2
        5 January 2025 17: 12
        Did it even exist? A purely Soviet car?

        1976. VAZ 2121 Niva. The first in its class. All crossovers started with it. Suzuki honestly admits that Vitaras and Jimas came from Niva. Although Niva has a monocoque body, which Suzuki came to in 2008, and Jimas and Vitaras (before 2008) are framed
  26. +6
    5 January 2025 10: 45
    A very balanced description of a worthy period of the country's development. I am also writing about this, the scanner is at work, so the result will be in a week. "Study at the FALT MIPT in 1972-78. Moscow region". Respect to the author!
  27. +3
    5 January 2025 10: 45
    Question: How was it possible to get kicked out of the institute and re-enroll the following year in those years? And what did the military registration and enlistment office look at?
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 11: 05
      Quote: Nagan
      Question: How was it possible to get kicked out of the institute and re-enroll the following year in those years? And what did the military registration and enlistment office look at?

      And that's what they called in those years....*by connections*! laughing Actually? Now we've returned to this. Does paid medicine guarantee results? Oh, come on! Free in the *district*? Oh, come on! A good car service? A good plumber? Come on, come on, come on. The result? Are we in the *seventies* now? laughing
      1. +3
        5 January 2025 12: 15
        Good plumber?
        I get the impression that all good plumbers work in St. Petersburg!
        1. +3
          5 January 2025 12: 18
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Good plumber?
          I get the impression that all good plumbers work in St. Petersburg!

          I get the impression that all good plumbers work in St. Petersburg!
          All good craftsmen work...through connections.
          1. +3
            5 January 2025 12: 23
            It's called a recommendation. And it's okay!
            1. +4
              5 January 2025 12: 25
              normally

              If for money then ....*sunset*. These are the seventies! The end of an era. I don't recommend this, I ....advise this!
        2. +4
          5 January 2025 14: 20
          All good plumbers work in St. Petersburg!

          the most famous soviet plumber of that era lived and worked in yaroslavl Yes
          1. +2
            5 January 2025 14: 35
            [qu[quote]Yaroslavl yes

            [/quote]ote][/quote] stop lying!!! Just remember, huh? And if you don't believe me, even if it's in front of you. For what? I'm starting to respect Astra.
            1. +5
              5 January 2025 14: 47
              stop lying!!!

              Not at all, watch the film again and see for yourself. Yes
      2. +1
        5 January 2025 13: 26
        Without any connections. At the end of March, I returned to the city where I had lived before and naturally registered for military service. I was not included in the spring draft because the lists of conscripts were already ready. If I had not entered, they would have called me up in the fall. It's all very simple.
    2. +3
      5 January 2025 12: 25
      Question: How was it possible to get kicked out of the institute and re-enroll the following year in those years? And what did the military registration and enlistment office look at?
      Alternatively, the author was a white-ticket holder. By the way, why isn't the university named?
      1. +6
        5 January 2025 12: 30
        Not necessarily. The call-up had clear time limits. If you weren't called up before June 21 or December, you'd stay until the following day.
      2. +2
        5 January 2025 12: 46
        Quote: Aviator_
        Question: How was it possible to get kicked out of the institute and re-enroll the following year in those years? And what did the military registration and enlistment office look at?
        Alternatively, the author was a white-ticket holder. By the way, why isn't the university named?

        what is the name of the university?

        Sergey! Do you know why I was kicked out of the Komsomol in 85? So. The Komsomol constituent assembly of the ZiL cultural center, 85. In the ranks... there are a lot of those *Komsomol members*. I read my report, and???! You know, I don't know what came over me, but???? Homeric laughter from the tasks that were required.... It was from me, and then the whole hall *collapsed*. Is this the *seventies*? Or was it already the eighties, when everyone was fed up with this CPSU?????!
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 20: 01
          Well, don't confuse the 80s and 70s. If they publish my memoirs about studying in the 70s, there will be an episode in it when our course Komsomol organization sent the city committee's resolution about working at the sponsored state farm on weekends to hell, and we got nothing at all. They wiped it off.
  28. +3
    5 January 2025 10: 58
    I only found out the real reason for my expulsion in 30 years after graduating from college.

    Did the rector tell you himself? Or maybe you were simply expelled for poor academic performance?

    If the rector had to expel a student for behavior, he would have expelled him immediately, and not negotiated with the teachers to give the student a bad grade.
    It was very easy to do back then!

    They wanted to expel three of our students from the group for drinking. The police caught them at the bus station. We went to the dean and the rector in two groups. We barely talked them out of it.
    1. +4
      5 January 2025 12: 05
      We barely managed to talk him out of it.

      Oh, dear Stas! If only you knew why your humble servant was expelled from the Komsomol. You would.... laugh long and heartily! 1985. Hypocrisy. From top to bottom. The abscess burst in 91.
    2. +1
      5 January 2025 13: 34
      You didn't read the article carefully. For over thirty years I thought I was expelled for poor academic performance. And I would have continued to think so if a friend hadn't told me about the true cause and effect. I couldn't connect the reading of three A4 pages about Meresyev and my expulsion.
      1. Msi
        +2
        5 January 2025 15: 11
        I could not connect the reading of three A4 pages about Meresyev and my expulsion.

        There are things you shouldn't joke about. It's right that you were expelled...
        1. 0
          5 January 2025 16: 59
          I'm not offended. If I had known earlier, I would have been offended, but over time I realized that whatever happens, everything is for the best!
      2. +1
        6 January 2025 14: 29
        Alexander, what university? Voenmekh, Tekhnologiya or something else?
  29. +4
    5 January 2025 11: 11
    How about this:
    In our carpentry shop where I worked, every man made one double-paned window for himself during the week, and the frame, of course. All this was carried out unhindered through the "back" checkpoint and sold on Saturday at the market. The price of a window was 30-40 rubles. In total, plus 140 rubles to the salary.

    .Not all the goods reached the counter. First of all, they called the "blatnye" (privileged people), informing them that they had brought this and that. Naturally, the store employees also bought goods, and they, like all normal Soviet people, bought not only for themselves, but also for relatives, friends, acquaintances, and so on down the list.

    You can't find the same sour cream that came from the dairy now! We diluted it with water, Vasya, with water! Until it was a little thicker than milk.

    In two weeks, a person could earn 2-3 thousand rubles in state trade, which is half the cost of a Zhiguli.

    it was possible that something like this was happening:
    lived a calm life with confidence in the future
    ?
    And what was described above was everywhere, in everything, throughout the entire country, and not only that.

    This objectively could not continue forever and there could not be such a tomorrow.
    1. +1
      5 January 2025 12: 30
      Quote: Petrovich
      This objectively could not continue forever and there could not be such a tomorrow.

      Well said. A society at the level of a gangster gang, where everything is according to the rules, or - better - at the level of a gang of lads. And where is the rule of law then? It turns out there was none... And can a society exist based on a silent agreement between the authorities and the people? Absolutely not!
      1. +3
        5 January 2025 19: 17
        Quote: kalibr
        But can a society exist on the basis of a silent agreement between the authorities and the people? Absolutely not!

        Yes, and at the same time there is a dissonance when the author says that
        many draw conclusions about the "hungry 70s" precisely from the memories (memoirs) of these rotten intellectuals

        It is strange to call people who do not accept theft and nepotism rotten, but not
        The store employees also shopped, and they, like all normal Soviet people, bought not only for themselves, but also for their relatives, friends, acquaintances, and so on down the list.

        Yes, the rotten intellectuals did not die of hunger, but why did a teacher or kindergarten teacher have to work somewhere to afford normal products from the market?
        Probably, the degree of rottenness directly depended on the distance of the rotting ones from the distribution list according to the “tacit agreement”.
        As V.S. Vysotsky sang:
        "We were the first in line,
        and those behind us are already eating..."
        1. 0
          5 January 2025 20: 13
          Quote from cpls22
          Yes, the rotten intellectuals did not die of hunger, but why did a teacher or kindergarten teacher have to work somewhere to afford normal products from the market?

          Everyone knows that a well-working teacher will NOT be able to work anywhere else, because he will not have enough strength...
    2. -1
      5 January 2025 13: 41
      Yes, everyone has a huge number of similar stories.
      I could describe how the OBKhSS came to a furniture store and an employee said that this year, according to the plan, one person from this store needs to be jailed, and since we have democracy, this “lucky one” should be chosen by the staff.
      Or how two girls from a neighboring group, in their second year, became currency prostitutes.
      1. +2
        6 January 2025 14: 31
        I could describe how the OBKhSS came to a furniture store and an employee said that this year, according to the plan, one person from this store needs to be jailed, and since we have democracy, this “lucky one” should be chosen by the staff.
        Or how two girls from a neighboring group, in their second year, became currency prostitutes.
        And were prostitutes also chosen at a staff meeting, maybe there was a competition?
  30. BAI
    +3
    5 January 2025 12: 08
    We were not entitled to a dormitory, because they thought that our families would provide sufficient financial support for us.

    The allocation of a dormitory at a university was not connected in any way with the financial situation of the student. In the USSR, this was impossible. It depended on the distance. I wanted one without a dormitory - the competition was significantly lower (18 versus 22 passing score), but they took out a map and showed me: You are here, we are here. The distance is more than 40 km (This is for out-of-towners, Muscovites, by definition, went without a dormitory). They are required to enter with a dormitory.
    1. BAI
      +1
      5 January 2025 12: 13
      Yes, income - a stipend of 63 rubles 50 kopecks and a construction team - 800 rubles per month (in Moscow). In Arkhangelsk up to 3000, but only with a construction specialty
    2. +1
      5 January 2025 13: 49
      It was as I described. There weren't enough dormitories for everyone.
      This is another paradox of socialism. You had to rent a room. I rented an apartment from the 5th year. How many people renting out housing reported this to the tax office? +/- 0,1%? Do you think the state didn't know about this.
      In Leningrad there was a specific place where those who were ready to rent out housing and those who needed it gathered - the Lion Bridge on the Griboyedov Canal, behind the Kazan Cathedral.
      1. Msi
        -1
        5 January 2025 15: 09
        How many people renting out housing reported this to the tax office?

        And how many people now report to the tax office that they rent out an apartment or a room? I suppose the percentage is not much different...
        1. +1
          5 January 2025 16: 57
          Now they are concluding fixed-term contracts for 11 months.
      2. +2
        7 January 2025 17: 47
        This is another paradox of socialism. It was necessary to rent a room. From the 5th year I rented an apartment.
        Well, how can I tell you, Alexander, about the "paradox of socialism". It hasn't existed for 33 years, and in the Moscow Energy Institute, it's now a problem for out-of-towners to get a dorm, practically for all these 33 years. Most of them are forced to rent. One of the paradoxes of capitalism. By the way, you still haven't answered the repeated questions about the university. Why is that?
  31. 0
    5 January 2025 12: 41
    Quote: BAI
    They did not wage wars on the territory of their own country.

    But there was more than enough war on someone else's, so this time could only be called peaceful conditionally.
    1. BAI
      0
      5 January 2025 13: 09
      And in the history of mankind, there have been only about 200 days without war.
      1. -1
        5 January 2025 13: 22
        Quote: BAI
        And in the history of mankind, there have been only about 200 days without war.

        And how does this relate to the statement "that it was a time of peace"?
    2. +3
      5 January 2025 13: 16
      Quote: kalibr
      But there was more than enough war on someone else's, so this time can only be called peaceful conditionally.

      [Quote] [/ quote]
      Dear Vyacheslav Olegovich! Oh, and if only... Fifty years without war. What next? You can imagine it yourself. Without solving other people's problems, but YOUR OWN, no?
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 13: 20
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        not?

        I understand. But it was a time... of war. The war in Vietnam 1965-74, in Cambodia, Angola, Egypt - the "Yom Kippur War", Afghanistan - the beginning in the 80s... And our people were everywhere. And they got it. Yes, not like during the Great Patriotic War. But it was a peaceful time.
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 13: 24
          it was a peaceful time

          Peaceful fifty????Here! This is the answer to all our questions.
        2. +2
          5 January 2025 15: 44
          But it was a peaceful time.

          Give Russia fifty years, or better yet a hundred, without wars.
          1. 0
            5 January 2025 16: 20
            Quote: ArchiPhil
            Give Russia fifty years, or better yet a hundred, without wars.

            The period for the formation of a STABLE PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY is 100 years. THREE generations must live their lives under the rule of law, a reasonable standard of living, and the ability to move freely and obtain information. Deficiencies in any of these provisions will correspondingly slow down...
            1. +2
              5 January 2025 16: 42
              Not an axiom. It is enough to remember Byzantium, the three great Comneni and how it all ended...
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 17: 58
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Not an axiom. It is enough to remember Byzantium, the three great Comneni and how it all ended...

                Anton, I don't want to argue and get into history. This is almost a cornerstone in modern sociology. For some reason, many people, including here, like to focus on exceptions. But what is important is the general as a whole, not the particular.
                1. +2
                  5 January 2025 18: 29
                  And don't argue. Due to the fact that the age of modern sociology is "less than a year ago". And practice shows that internal stability, over three generations, leads to stagnation and decline of the state.
                  1. +2
                    5 January 2025 18: 31
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    over the course of three centuries, leads to stagnation and decline of the state.

                    Here everything is more complicated. However, there will be an article in which all these problems will be tied into one knot.
                    1. +3
                      5 January 2025 18: 36
                      Do you think you can outdo Vaschenko with his all-encompassing "stage theory"?
                      1. +1
                        5 January 2025 18: 40
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Do you think you can outdo Vaschenko with his all-encompassing "stage theory"?

                        I don't even hope so. He is a real scientist, Anton. And I... have always done only what interested me. Hence a certain "narrow-mindedness". This is evident from the topics of articles and books. But when you think about some moments for many years, the superficial often turns into the profound. And your own example is the best confirmation of this.
  32. BAI
    +2
    5 January 2025 14: 00
    Yes, I remembered something else. This is on many topics at once, to many comments, only not the 70s, but the first half of the 80s.
    At the institute - sports and health camp Yug. 10 days in the mountains (Klukhorsky pass Caucasus) and 10 days at the sea (Sukhumi). Food, accommodation, everything is naturally included. Price of the trip - 24 rubles.
    Sanatorium-preventorium. 1 month, food (full loads), accommodation, treatment. 15 min walk from the institute. FREE.
    The quality of food can be judged by the following fact: after Chernobyl, a graduate student who had returned from Chernobyl was sitting at the next table. I have a standard first table meal, he has an individual one. And the diet nurse came to him to make an order for food for the next day. He jokingly said - turtle soup. And he had turtle soup for tomorrow! The graduate student.
    And one more thing about Chernobyl. We, the commanders of construction teams, immediately realized that we could make good money there, and rushed to the Komsomol committee with a proposal to go there (our fighters supported us). But in the committee, they looked at us as if we were enemies of the people: what are you doing, where are you going? And so on.
    At the same time, they kept silent about the fact that they themselves would have to go there to check us and bear responsibility for us.
    For reference - the institute specialized in radiation: MEPhI, everyone knew and understood everything
    1. +1
      5 January 2025 14: 27
      Quote: BAI
      Food, accommodation, everything is naturally included.

      It's interesting to read things like this! Where else would you learn such things?!
    2. +1
      7 January 2025 18: 14
      He said jokingly - turtle soup. And he had turtle soup for tomorrow! The graduate student.
      Here I remembered a quote from the poem by A.S. Pushkin "Ruslan and Lyudmila" - "The legend is fresh, but hard to believe." Alexander, and where was the turtle taken - from the nearest pond or from a pet store? Again, you need to know how to cook soup, and who knew how to do it. The cooks of the city committee canteen? When we, young specialists, were sent to the Voskresensk Chemical Plant for a month (1979), they fed us cod liver soup in the canteen - welders were supposed to get it with coupons, but they ate at home, and the coupons were given to us, the seconded ones.
      1. +1
        8 January 2025 14: 21
        I kept thinking about this soup. laughing It could have been made from anything. wink There are different products that can be "passed off" as pieces of turtle lol
        1. +1
          8 January 2025 14: 24
          I think so too, but most likely it's a tale told while drunk. We also had Chernobyl victims, in particular, one was called up from the reserves (he was an electronics engineer), given a platoon of soldiers with rags and sent to deactivate the 5th block of the nuclear power plant.
          1. +1
            8 January 2025 14: 29
            So, nothing prevents the same cod liver from being called a turtle. And there are also brains, sturgeon or salmon milt. Some sea animals, perhaps cooks could call a turtle. wink There have always been all sorts of tricks in the kitchen request
            1. +1
              8 January 2025 14: 30
              Yes, it’s just the usual nonsense, from the same series that the OBKhSS imprisoned according to a plan, offering the team to choose the prisoner.
              1. +1
                8 January 2025 14: 40
                I understood that it was just a joke of that time. After all, there is a children's poem about a blacksmith who stole a horse....... And then ---- the people's village court. As a result
                He is the only one we have,
                The best in our lives! good
                Without him, death -----
                God be his judge!

                I forgot the rest, but this is how it ended
                We have two coopers!
                Two ---- and drinks loafers!
                We'd better hang one of them.
                1. +1
                  8 January 2025 14: 45
                  laughing I didn't know such a poem, respect! How are things in St. Petersburg, our contractors were afraid that I would come again and knock on their heads, before the New Year they came themselves and set everything up. Now they are sitting in Pulkovo, on the site of the former observatory. When I was there in the summer, I was amazed at the collapse - as if I had never left my office.
                  1. +1
                    8 January 2025 14: 52
                    on the site of the former observatory

                    Is it really not there now????? And I didn't know. I've been to the Planetarium observatory several times. Now we have a new Planetarium, but I haven't been there yet.
                    I'm slowly recovering from my cold.
                    1. +1
                      8 January 2025 14: 54
                      The city is advancing, in Moscow, for example, the Sternberg Astronomical Institute (GAISh) has long since found itself almost in the center. No observations of the sky can be made from there. The same thing in Pulkovo.
                      1. +1
                        8 January 2025 15: 06
                        Yes, I once read on the Internet that almost half of Humanity, due to global warming, can no longer observe stars, planets and the Milky Way. For example, in December of last year, in
                        For 2 or 3 days I saw Saturn through gaps in the clouds, but due to work I was unable to observe through the telescope.
                        And who can conduct astronomical observations? Probably Africans, Australians, residents of Mexico, Bolivia, well, and also crews and passengers of ocean liners...
                      2. 0
                        8 January 2025 16: 31
                        I once read on the Internet that almost half of Humanity, due to global warming, can no longer observe stars, planets and the Milky Way.
                        Why are you repeating this nonsense here? What does global warming have to do with it? The Milky Way (the edge of our Galaxy) has never been visible in cities before. Drive away from the city and admire it, naturally, in cloudless weather. Of the computer programs, I recommend Stellarium for identifying objects. Haven't got a car yet?
                      3. 0
                        8 January 2025 18: 04
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        ........ Drive away from the city .......

                        You'll have to go far, it hasn't worked out yet, the Leningrad region is developing... Well, and the Moscow region!
                      4. 0
                        8 January 2025 18: 26
                        You have to know the places. There are some real backwaters in the Moscow region. At least Shatursky District, at least Shakhovsky. There, time stopped in the middle of the 20th century, if not at the beginning.
  33. +2
    5 January 2025 14: 40
    Before you write a comment, just think about it. Where was I then? What did I do then? Maybe you will understand. But most likely you won't. Like me. Who are we?
  34. +4
    5 January 2025 15: 12
    Just a remark, "for thought"
    I don't like anti-Sovietism, whether it's served subtly or served thickly. But the adherents of the Soviets are already going to the other extreme. It turns out that the generation that grew up and worked in the late 90s-2010s and beyond was, as it were, en masse in the service of the forces of evil and the Dark Lord, was only engaged in what sought to "consume" and generally morally decompose. Like this "Then" everything was in gold, and here we were for 20+ years, it seemed like everyone was doing nothing and generally only ate the remains of stewed meat from the Soviet reserve. wassat Although no one from the 90s-2010s generation actually swore allegiance to the Dark Lord and they simply grew up in conditions that were not created by them.
    Both extremes are harmful: anti-Sovietism and various terminal forms of unaccountable love for the Soviets.
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 16: 28
      as if the generation that grew up and worked in the late 90s-2010s and beyond, was supposedly en masse in the service of the forces of evil and the Dark Lord, was only engaged in what sought to "consume" and generally morally decompose. Like "Then" everything was in gold, and here for 20+ years, it seems, we all did nothing and generally ate only the remains of stew from the Soviet reserve. wassat Although no one from the generation of the 90s-2010s actually swore allegiance to the Dark Lord and it simply grew up in conditions that were not created by them.
      Bravo, colleague! This thought overwhelmed me after reading the article and comments, and you managed to formulate it! good My youth fell on the "dashing nineties" and you know, it was a wonderful time. Yes, it was difficult, but I was young, full of energy and my whole life was ahead of me. Once, a couple of years ago, the author of this material told me: "Tokha, you still have 10-15 years of active life." I laughed it off then and only recently began to realize what Sasha meant...
      1. +3
        5 January 2025 17: 16
        Well, this thought really does break through the fog of comments and texts. Our "Generation P" actually has something to say. laughing
        1. +3
          5 January 2025 17: 31
          Our "Generation P" also has something to say
          Well, basically, yes! At the very least, we ourselves survived and managed to raise their grandchildren in this "difficult domestic political situation."
  35. Msi
    +1
    5 January 2025 15: 51
    An idea just occurred to me. It would be nice to draw a continuous timeline. A series of articles. The transition from the 70s to the 80s and 90s. But as I understand it, our authors are usually the same age. In the sense that we could describe student life, youth at different times and compare.
    1. +5
      5 January 2025 16: 24
      Quote from Msi
      But it would be nice to extend a continuous timeline. A series of articles.

      I read it. I sat and thought. What if we made a series on ALL PARTY congresses? With references and excerpts from documents, figures, examples... It would probably be easier for me than for others. This is the history of the CPSU. I taught it... I didn't think it would come in handy again. But if it's interesting, then why not, this is our life, our past...
      1. 0
        5 January 2025 19: 06
        Quote: kalibr
        I read it. I sat and thought.

        A question for you as a professional: how would you rate the work of Evgeny Spitsyn on the topic of the history of the USSR in the second half of the 20th century?
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 19: 12
          Quote: Hagen
          How would you rate the work of Evgeny Spitsyn on the topic of the history of the USSR in the second half of the 20th century?

          You know... I haven't read anything by him. So I can't say anything.
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 19: 22
            Quote: kalibr
            I haven't read anything from him.

            It's a pity... I would be interested in your impression. He examined the years 45-85 in sufficient detail, including the party component.
            1. +2
              5 January 2025 19: 27
              Quote: Hagen
              party component.

              Fate intervened here. After defending my dissertation in 88, I continued to teach the history of the CPSU until 91. After that, until 95, I taught the history of the Fatherland and cultural studies. And from 95 to 2017, I taught PR and advertising. Therefore, most of the works on the topic of the USSR passed me by. And my interests outside the university did not allow me to get distracted either: tanks, the ancient world, samurai, the Middle Ages. So, to be honest, I had never even heard of it. And so I even threw my dissertation on the history of the CPSU, "Party leadership of scientific research during the 9th five-year plan in the Volga region universities," in the trash. I thought that it would be no longer needed. I was wrong, however...
              1. +2
                5 January 2025 19: 35
                Quote: kalibr
                I was wrong, however...

                It happens... If only someone would have told me then that I would be more involved in engineering than in the army. And more productive... If I had known the payoff, I would have lived in Sochi...
      2. 0
        5 January 2025 21: 10
        What if we make a cycle of ALL PARTY congresses?
        Vyacheslav, as a deeply non-party person, I never cared about all these party congresses. I was interested in work, and since the congresses once again provided its financing (defense, space, aviation), then it was good. Until they started to stuff everything into their pockets, or even sell it abroad.
        1. -1
          5 January 2025 21: 16
          Quote: Aviator_
          Vyacheslav, as a deeply non-party person, I have always been philistine about all these party congresses.

          You know, Sergey, for some reason people are most interested in information that has no practical significance. That's the first thing. Secondly, a lot really depended on the congresses, information that explained a lot was often pumped out there. So it's not as simple as it might seem to you. In any case, I think that if it's interesting to me, then I'll be able to write about it in such a way that it will be interesting to others. At one time, I forced myself to read the entire facsimile edition of the ISKRA newspaper. That was crap and a drag. But it gave me a lot. I really regret that I didn't take the file with me when the department collapsed.
          1. +3
            6 January 2025 14: 39
            At one time I forced myself to read the entire facsimile edition of the ISKRA newspaper. That was crap and a drag.
            Vyacheslav, for some reason this newspaper was in demand in those conditions. Having a printed publication back then was like having your own TV channel in the 90s. And the fact that the content never reached you - Lenin is not to blame for that. As well as the work in Volume 18 of Lenin's PSS, which you have already signed off on.
            1. 0
              6 January 2025 15: 39
              Quote: Aviator_
              And the fact that the content never reached you is not Lenin’s fault.

              Again, Sergey, you are trying to offend me on my territory, not a faggot in this, not a damn thing. Iskra has very few works by Lenin. And it is difficult to perceive because it is a newspaper of ITS time. It talks about events and people unknown to you and me, about whom we have never heard. It is the same as reading the Egyptian "book of the dead". And that is why it was IN DEMAND IN THOSE conditions, and I read it in completely different ones. Understand?
              1. +2
                6 January 2025 16: 24
                I understand that a professional historian should have immersed himself in that era, if, of course, he is interested in history. I will not say more about your qualifications, you are a typical "faggot".
                1. 0
                  6 January 2025 17: 50
                  Quote: Aviator_
                  A professional historian would have to immerse himself in that era, if, of course, he is interested in history.

                  You still don't get it, Sergey, I don't know why. No matter how much you immerse yourself in the era, it is impossible to find out the everyday trifles of life and the aspirations of the people of that time. And the newspaper reflects them by 80%. That's how it is now, that's how it was then. Not to mention that it is very difficult to read with YAT and FITA. However, it will be possible to prepare several articles on the party press of that time. And I am simply great at "faggot". Several generations of students of this specialty in Russian universities have been studying according to my textbooks on PR, BTL and advertising. And how many textbooks do you have for the Higher School, by the way? Remind me, I forgot something.
                  1. +2
                    6 January 2025 18: 42
                    Excellent, Vyacheslav! But you said that you failed to immerse yourself in the Iskra era, you admitted it yourself. So that newspaper was a failure. Further. Newspapers of any era publish not only current information, but also appeals with slogans, that is, the newspaper performs in a sense the function of a poster. Are you going to judge an era by posters? - So this should be stipulated from the very beginning. Diaries of contemporaries are also very useful material - look, at least, at how Sergei Georgievich Kara-Murza used Prishvin's diaries in his analysis of Soviet civilization. He (Sergei Georgievich), a doctor of chemical sciences, this is just by the way. Well, as for your successes in cultivating PR people - let it all remain on your conscience, after all, you are not interested in anything except money, you are one of the 20% of "intellectuals". PR is a dead-end path of development, the ability to foist off stale goods. Well, I am a hard worker, one of the 80%, my results are General Physics Course (I have digitized the mechanics, the other sections are in process), labs on aerodynamics and flight dynamics, there were works on Su-27, Il-96, Yak-141 and not only, I also worked for missilemen (and work). A monograph is coming out. And you continue to faggot, you found a good word. hi
                    1. 0
                      6 January 2025 19: 12
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      Monograph on the way.

                      Wonderful. Techie-techie! But the thing is that such books are only needed as textbooks and only by some. But mine - take a look at the AST website - are needed by everyone! And as for PR, it rules you too. Who together with me talked for 340 comments and raised my rating by as much as 7000 units? You do something for airplanes, and we are governors who build factories for their production and houses for workers, you monitor the dynamics of the flight, and we... the dynamics of sales and ensure that the budget from which you are given a day for airplanes is filled. Without airplanes, as the 90s showed, it is possible to live, including the Yak-141, but without effective sales of stale goods - no way. Without you, people would not know how to fly. Without us, they do not know how to live! So each of us has our own niche that is useful to society!
                      1. +2
                        6 January 2025 20: 16
                        You make something for the planes, and we make governors who build factories to produce them and houses for the workers,
                        Bravo, PR in its purest form.
                        Without you, people wouldn't know how to fly. Without us, they wouldn't know how to live! So each of us has our own niche that is useful to society!
                        I've lived so long and I didn't know that my life's line was being determined by PR people! I know how to live, and my children know too. And my grandchildren will know, I won't have to sell them stale goods.
                      2. 0
                        6 January 2025 21: 43
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        I know how to live, and my children know too. And my grandchildren will know, you won't have to sell them stale goods.

                        Sour grapes. It is precisely such people, sick with self-delusion, who are the most grateful audience for our work. With stupid peasants, yes, it is difficult. But to trick people like you into giving us what we/I need is a piece of cake. Our entire dialogue yesterday/today confirms this.
                      3. +2
                        6 January 2025 21: 48
                        Sour grapes. It is precisely these people, sick with self-delusion, who are the most grateful audience for our work.
                        Vyacheslav, look in the mirror to see the self-deluded. I find common ground with both the worker and the collective farmer, and it is you who call them stupid. So do not exaggerate the significance of your thimble-wittedness. I knew what to do before you, and communication with you did not change me. Leave the divorces for others, if you could not even comprehend your classics.
                      4. 0
                        6 January 2025 21: 55
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        It's you who call stupid.

                        I see one thing, when you are picked up, you immediately switch to "you". This is an interesting indicator of the presence of complexes. "I find a common language with both a worker and a collective farmer, it is you who call stupid". By the way, I do too. Excellent. And divorces... I only regret one thing, that I did not bet with Anton that the comments would exceed 350. And I should have.Even before you, I knew what I should do, and communicating with you hasn’t changed me. And good! Someone has to pull the chestnuts out of the fire!? And the last question: in what generation are you a city dweller? Apparently you were born in the city, but your parents, and especially your grandparents are from the village? Isn't that right?
                      5. +2
                        6 January 2025 21: 57
                        And good! Someone has to pull the chestnuts out of the fire!?
                        laughing laughing laughing laughing Blessed is he who believes! Keep up the faggotry!
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                      6 January 2025 19: 15
                      Quote: Aviator_
                      Just look at how Sergei Georgievich Kara-Murza used Prishvin’s diaries in his analysis of Soviet civilization.

                      I read his works, why not. Soon there will be a link to one of them and an excerpt in the article about... however, you will see for yourself where things go.
    2. +2
      5 January 2025 20: 26
      Quote from Msi
      . But it would be nice to draw a continuous timeline. A series of articles. The transition from the 70s to the 80s and 90s.

      What is there to stretch out?
      Youth is ALWAYS beautiful - in the 70s, 80s, 90s and XNUMXs.
  36. +1
    5 January 2025 16: 55
    Quote: Gardamir
    Nabiullina works for the West,

    I'm trying to remember who put her in her position? I think it was Strelkov? No? :)
  37. +1
    5 January 2025 17: 15
    Liberals call Brezhnev's reign a time of stagnation, but in reality it was a time of stability.

    The author has undertaken to evaluate the time of the 70s, as he remembers it. Well, then he would write about what he remembered. Well, for example, how, with a tough study, he managed to work 2-3 jobs. I know, there were such universities, where only for attendance they put machine guns in sessions... Oh well. This is what I mean about the fact that you should not touch the macro indicators of the country, if you do not at least study other people's research. And Brezhnev's stability is characterized by the following: On July 4, 1976, the All-Union Scientific Research Institute for Systems Research (VNIISI) of the State Committee of the Council of Ministers of the USSR for Science and Technology and the USSR Academy of Sciences was created for a comprehensive study of scientific, technical and socio-economic problems of great national economic importance and having an interdisciplinary nature of research. The Institute, as a branch of the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) at the Club of Rome, was entrusted with the functions of the lead organization for scientific and methodological support of Soviet participation in the activities of IIASA. According to the plan, the Institute was to become a Soviet "think tank", an analogue of the RAND Corporation. Now take an interest in the subject matter of this Institute, its main people, think and tell me why this Research Institute was needed. I answer: it is obvious that the economic affairs of the USSR went so badly that, despite the Soviet power, the government itself became keenly interested in how to get out of the crisis. The general problem that interested the government at that time was the integration of the Soviet economy into the World through the development of market mechanisms. I think you were not told this at the University. And even economic universities did not deal with these issues, so that the masses would not have their minds blown. But market economists had to be educated and trained. And so such a Research Institute was created. Therefore, it is more correct to speak of stability in the USSR under Brezhnev as “imaginary stability” on the eve of a big economic bang on the scale of the entire USSR.
    An unspoken agreement was concluded between the people and the country's leadership.

    An agreement? Who negotiated with you?! They put you in a stall, and if you were allowed to moo, it was on command. The leadership lived separately from the people, and if it depended on anyone, it was only on groups in the same party-economic nomenclature. As for housing issues, you add nothing except that they were "successfully resolved", because if you had delved into the issue, these decisions would not have been called successful. By the way, the reproduction of the population did not depend on housing construction programs then, and does not depend on them today... And in general, this era, probably without expecting it, you quite accurately described this era as an era of galloping widespread corruption (products were first given to the criminals for some services unattainable for the rest of the people) and mass theft at the very bottom of production (the custom of stealing frames from a state enterprise in order to sell them for personal gain). Such revelations are rare... But you didn't even understand that Moscow and Leningrad, like some other cities of the 1st category of supply of consumer goods, did not reflect the full depth of the crisis phenomena in the USSR as a whole. And you are right in another way: "For me, the 70s are, first of all, youth and all the good things connected with it...". This is mainly what forms a nostalgic attitude towards one's life during the USSR... I would say that from your words the picture of the USSR as a whole turned out to be depressing... request
    1. +1
      5 January 2025 18: 09
      [quote=Hagen]I would say that from your words the picture of the USSR turned out to be generally depressing....
      That's why I wrote that with friends like these you don't need enemies!
      1. +4
        5 January 2025 18: 33
        Quote: kalibr
        That's why I wrote that with friends like these you don't need enemies!

        I agree completely. Simplicity is sometimes worse than theft. Literary genre is a craft that requires skills and abilities, so as not to become an accomplice in the crime being described. And here, a product of Soviet upbringing, but all the way he is not rooting for Angela Davis, but for rubles... Here you have the entire "Soviet people" (I think you understand what I mean), preparing for the transition to communism. And, as the classics say, you should not "confuse your wool with the state's"... laughing When Zhukov wrote his "Memories and Reflections" the whole headquarters worked on the depth of immersion into the situation, with maps and documents. So, whoever wants to write well about his youth, must first immerse himself in statistics, the real situation of the years described. That's what I think.
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          5 January 2025 18: 37
          Quote: Hagen
          must first delve into the statistics and the real situation of the years being described.

          Or write only about yourself. I saw, I thought, I bought... Conclusions are no longer than Buratino's thoughts, because at 20 there are no other. But conclusions from the position of hindsight are a different matter. Here, in addition to your own experience, it would be nice to draw on something else. At least the general result known to everyone.
    2. 0
      5 January 2025 18: 34
      What year are you born?
      1. +1
        5 January 2025 18: 35
        Quote: ee2100
        What year are you born?

        I finished my service in the Soviet Army as a captain.
        1. 0
          5 January 2025 18: 36
          I wasn't asking about your rank.
          1. +1
            5 January 2025 18: 42
            Quote: ee2100
            I wasn't asking about your rank.

            Between the lines, one can make a fairly accurate conclusion... Actually, that's what I wrote those many letters about.
            1. 0
              5 January 2025 18: 53
              Just like a red maiden!
              1. +2
                5 January 2025 19: 03
                Quote: ee2100
                Just like a red maiden!

                I'm over 60 (in case you lost your calculator).
    3. +1
      5 January 2025 20: 58
      Quote: Hagen
      aptly described as the era of galloping ubiquitous corruption (products were initially sold to criminals for some services unattainable by other people) and mass theft at the very bottom of production (the custom of dragging frames from a state enterprise

      the comrade didn't understand that such a today impossible tomorrow, in which he believed so confidently.
  38. +3
    5 January 2025 17: 57
    In general, life in different parts of the USSR was different, as were supplies. Leningraders were supplied worse than Muscovites, Belgoroders worse than Leningraders, and Kuibyshevites worse than Belgoroders. Of course, St. Petersburg and Moscow were much better than all Russian cities in terms of cultural and entertainment life. A funny story: I went on a business trip from Belgorod to Kuibyshev. In the evening, I decided to buy some cooked sausage at the grocery store (there was no other). I punched a receipt at the cash register, went to the counter, handed it to her, and the saleswoman looked at me questioningly. I asked what was the matter. She said, a coupon. So I didn't buy it. There was no coupon. But the quality of the bread was good. Yes, and canned fish and vegetables were available. That's it. An industrial, space, aircraft building, etc. city of a million did not deserve good supplies. I don't think there was any intent here, there just wasn't enough food. Why? It's very simple: there used to be a large proportion of the rural population that was not supplied with food, and in the 70s the villagers decreased, and the city grew significantly. And food production did not keep up with this. In 73, I managed to work for 1 year in the district committee of the Komsomol as an instructor. I saw the seamy side of the Komsomol and the party, being a completely innocent Soviet young man believing in a bright future. This amazed me and I never registered with the Komsomol again. And I believe that one of the reasons for the death of the USSR was lies. If the party lied less, more attention would be paid to shortcomings and miscalculations. And the life of an ordinary person:
    1. +3
      5 January 2025 18: 05
      Quote: Alexey Lantukh
      And I believe that one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR was lying.

      Totally agree!
    2. +2
      5 January 2025 19: 01
      Quote: Alexey Lantukh
      If the party lied less, more attention would be paid to shortcomings and miscalculations.

      Not a very clear conclusion. In addition to lies, the CPSU had more significant sins. And one of them is the chronic authoritarianism of the leadership. There was no one to stop the experiments of madmen. And this led to the collapse of the CPSU. Together with the country. Today, the Democratic Party in the USA is in ruins, and the country remains as it was. Just as Trump began to destroy Europe in his first term, Biden continued... We were lucky with oil and gas Siberia. Otherwise, the USSR would have collapsed even earlier. And here they are racing to criticize the current bourgeoisie, but they did what the Soviet system of governance could not. The entire country has a sufficient food basket of its own products. I feel that United Russia has not yet reached the point of managing the sowing and harvesting of grain. laughing Once in 1978, in a city with a population of over a million in the Urals, I met my brother, who had been discharged from the Soviet Army. We went into a store, and in the "meat and fish" section, in large refrigerated counters, there were neatly built pyramids of "tourist breakfast" cans. At first, my brother was happy. In the army rations, it was meaty and tasty. But for us, it was minced fish with pearl barley. That's a fragment from my memory... feel
      1. +3
        5 January 2025 19: 21
        Quote: Hagen
        chronic authoritarianism of leadership.

        And my wife says that there were also old farts who had never seen anything sweeter than carrots, and generally considered pipifax to be a bourgeois luxury. After all, there are newspapers. They should ask the young people what they need. Buy jeans, T-shirts with prints, nylon stockings so that not one factory would make 5 million pairs a year, but 10 such factories producing 10 million each, so that tampons would be given out not only to the athletes of the USSR national team, but also in all the pharmacies there would be enough of them. You look and there would be nothing to nod at - "that's how it is there". And there it is like here! And of course, free travel to earn money. There, and tourism, also free. Of course, someone would leave. But there would be no bloodshed during the hijacking of planes. And then ... some would come back and tell everyone that there is "there" and its own problems. I've been "there", I've traveled all over Europe, so you can't lure me there even with a bun. But the old men didn't understand all this.
        1. +2
          5 January 2025 19: 32
          Quote: kalibr
          Buy some jeans, T-shirts with prints,

          Why buy? If someone had convinced Khrushch not to "cut" Stalin's artels, but on the contrary to give them assistance, there would have been an abundance of this product. The Americans would have bought them from us... wink And if they also gave interest-free loans for housing, which they would sell with a 5-10% profitability and not at three times the price, then they would build housing not only in Moscow, but everywhere where people live. Judging by my parents' salaries and the estimated cost (and they sometimes built even cheaper) of 111 rubles per square meter of living space, in 10 years they could solve the housing issue themselves without waiting for a 15-year queue.
          1. +3
            5 January 2025 19: 34
            Quote: Hagen
            Why buy?

            Yes. I wrote this without thinking. But you are 100% right. In Odessa they learned to make jeans no worse, but better than American ones. But... the creators were shot.
            1. +3
              5 January 2025 19: 42
              Quote: kalibr
              In Odessa they learned to make jeans no worse, but better than American ones. But... the creators were shot.

              Once here on the forum I criticized the "party line", among other things for this.... Few agreed. In general, lately there are fewer and fewer people on the site who are passionate about the history of the country. More illiterate nostalgists, like Tatras. You probably find it even more boring to reason with obviously deviant characters. wink
              1. +1
                5 January 2025 21: 18
                Quote: Hagen
                You probably find it even more boring to reason with clearly deviant characters.

                You are right, by and large. But over 35 years of working at the university, I have gotten used to it. It has become second nature - both funny and sad at the same time.
        2. +4
          5 January 2025 21: 49
          Not a very clear conclusion.

          I wrote: one of the reasons. And I completely agree with you: authoritarianism from top to bottom. The secretary of the district party committee is the king of the district, and over everything.
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  39. +1
    5 January 2025 22: 55
    Yes, 70 is about right. It was later 80s sausage trains to Moscow and Leningrad and probably it wasn't so easy to get a ticket to a sanatorium or a holiday home
  40. +3
    5 January 2025 23: 03
    At the course party meeting, they discussed a signal (it was clear where it came from) that I had read this and expressed joy at what I had read. It was decided to punish me. The head of the inorganic chemistry department, a professor, I won't give his name, volunteered to carry out the punishment. He promised that I would be expelled because I would not pass the exam during the winter session. And that's how it all happened.
    In 85, when I was entering a university, at the final, decisive exam, some member of the district Komsomol committee sitting in the admissions committee asked where my Komsomol badge was. I said that it was on my jacket, but now it was hot and I was in a shirt. This patriot type spent a long time trying to convince me that I should sleep and shit with the badge on, like he did, and in the end, instead of a 5, they gave me a 3 and instead of an institute, I had 3 years in the navy. And I met this eagle the next day, but he didn’t have a badge or anything to show his patriotism.
    1. +1
      6 January 2025 14: 44
      In 85, when I was entering the university, at the final, decisive exam, some member of the district Komsomol committee sitting on the admissions committee asked where my Komsomol badge was.
      Which university? Very interesting, because for some reason many here consider it a secret.
  41. +1
    5 January 2025 23: 42
    On December 26, 2024, the memoirs of a staff author of this site about the 70s of the twentieth century were published, which are difficult to agree with.

    Is it easier to agree with yours?
    1. +1
      6 January 2025 08: 56
      What do you disagree with?
      If possible, briefly)))
  42. -1
    6 January 2025 03: 58
    Quote: Hagen
    I'm over 60

    Well, finally, comrade captain!
    So you remember the 70s. So write down your memories of those years, and I will be happy to read them and compare our impressions. hi
  43. -1
    6 January 2025 04: 01
    Quote: Petrovich
    the comrade didn't understand

    Yes, I didn't understand. The whole country lived like that. Did you understand much at 18?
    1. +2
      6 January 2025 14: 11
      Quote: ee2100
      Yes, I didn't understand. The whole country lived like that.

      I think that some of the leadership understood - see Kosygin's reforms.
      Quote: ee2100
      Did you understand much at 18 years old?

      Not much, yes. But I clearly remember the feeling of great injustice and wrongness when I saw the wealth of the peasants of Georgia, Armenia, the Baltics against the backdrop of the glaring poverty of the Russian peasant of the non-black earth region... It was very offensive - why is it like this?
      1. +1
        6 January 2025 14: 48
        I think that some of the leadership understood - see Kosygin's reforms.
        The Kosygin reforms (Kosygin-Lieberman reforms) led to capitalism directly (accountability not in production, but in its cost). Maybe, in small ways, it could have been used, like the NEP once was, but what grew, grew.
      2. -2
        6 January 2025 15: 44