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Shalinsky siege

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In early January, 2000, the militants tried to take control of the city of Argun, Shali and Gudermes. About how the fighting took place in Shali, says one of the officers of the FSB, who took part in the defense of the Shali commandant's office. His name, for obvious reasons, we do not specify.


On January 7, our group of officers of the “liaison mission” arrived for a special assignment to the commandant's office of Shali. Our arrival was marked by the intensification of hostilities. Officers of the commandant's office learned that in the area of ​​the pipe base there is a group of militants with a total of 70-80 people. The operation was headed by the chief of staff of the commandant's office. The forces of the three BMP-2 and the personnel of the commandant’s company fired the militants from the base, but the Komendachs also lost one BMP with the crew.

On the morning of January 9, Shali was struck by deserted streets and silence in the city market. It was alarming and, as it turned out, not in vain. Aslambek Arsayev, one of the most influential field commanders of the illegal armed formations, who had more than three hundred militants under arms, arrived at the commandant's office. Arsaev, better known as Bolshoi Aslanbek, in an ultimatum form suggested that the commandant’s garrison lay down weapon, guaranteeing the preservation of life. “Otherwise there will be a sea of ​​blood and fire,” he said.

But we did not intend to die, let alone surrender to the Chechen captivity. After the presentation of the ultimatum began to prepare to repel the attack. On the short-wave radio station "Angara-1" we in open air contacted the command of the group and briefly reported on the situation. More detailed information was sent with a cipher telegram over a space communications radio station. Despite all the preparations for the defense, the mood was bad, it was not without farewell words on the air ...

Commandant Shali took the necessary measures to repel the attack and reported everything to the headquarters of the Vostok group on his senior commander. However, he was not in a hurry to make a decision ... for two whole days. And this is despite the fact that this headquarters was located just six kilometers from Shali in the village of Avtury. At the disposal of the senior commander was a special detachment of the Far Eastern Military District. The scouts were ready to advance to release the commandant's office in Shali, but such a team did not arrive. All this time, surrounded by the defenders of the Shali commandant's office, repelling one after another the attacks of the “Czechs”, they could only count on themselves.

One of the requirements for exploration is continuity. Observing it, even in a state of siege, we managed to learn that before the assault began, the militants with their inherent passion for external effects, as well as feeling their absolute superiority in forces, decided to arrange a rally. The time and coordinates of the rally venue were transmitted with a cipher telegram to the headquarters of the Joint Group of Forces in the North Caucasus, which was located in Mozdok. Here we were again rescued by our portable space communications station.

The leadership of the group in a short time, assessed the situation and decided to strike at the cluster of militants with a tactical missile "Tochka-U". Fortunately, not all the rockets were “cut” by Gorbachev. A point hit fell right on target, and most importantly - at the height of the rally. Bolshoi Aslanbek chose a place for a rally near the commandant’s office, it was only two hundred and fifty meters away. Such a distance ensured the security of the militants from the striking of our barreled artillery. Arsaev clearly did not expect a missile strike. In essence, this was the first experience of delivering a missile strike of such power in the immediate vicinity of its troops. We, giving the coordinates of the enemy, practically caused fire on ourselves and prayed that the “god of war” and the designers of the rocket would not let down.

The strike results for the militants were staggering - two hundred seventeen people only killed. Having lost so many of his thugs, Big Aslanbek realized that his plans for pulling the feds into the Shali battles had failed. There will be no burning tanks and BMP, neither the corpses of Russian soldiers on the streets of Shali, nor the destroyed houses and victims among, perhaps, innocent local residents. There will be no such hype in the international media that the militants had high hopes for.

Recovering after the strike, Arsaev made a desperate attempt to attack the commandant's office with the forces of the surviving militants. Trying to break our resistance with massive fire, the "spirits" used all the fire weapons at their disposal. A direct hit of the AGS-17 grenade or a grenade launcher damaged the P-161A antenna mast. To maintain communication with the higher headquarters, we deployed a VHF radio station P-159 with the “Historian” voice message block. Working on the P-159, we fired a 152-mm self-propelled howitzer 2-3 "Acacia". Using smoke projectiles, we shot approaches to the commandant's office. It really helped, especially at night. As soon as the militants rose in the next attack, a wall of barrage fire arose around us, which only a madman would have decided to overcome.

All this time we have maintained a stable connection with the command, using our second means - a portable station of space communications SCS. To conduct a session “in space,” one of us, under the cover of a partner’s fire, advanced and installed a station receiving and transmitting device (PUF) on the window sill of the first floor of the commandant’s office. Holding it with one hand, the second one manipulated the buttons on the control unit mounted on the floor. All this had to be done covertly so as not to fall under the fire of snipers. After the session, it was also necessary to secretly leave the venue and move to a safer place. In case of disabling the PPU fire snipers, we had a spare set of SCS. Therefore, the main concern in these conditions was still the uninterrupted operation of the satellite in the reception area, as well as saving power to the batteries. The kit at our disposal, while maintaining the intensity of the radio traffic, would be enough for three days, then we would have to mess with the car battery.

We did not dare to work on the "Angara", since this radio station does not provide covert communication. If the militants had a sufficient number of Japanese and Western European scanning radio stations, using the Angara would inevitably lead to the tapping of our talks by the adversary. In addition, we would have to go to the third floor of the building of the commandant's office in order to deploy the antenna of this station. And he was shot by militants.

As for our weapons, it became a shame to the depths of the soul for the fact that our command sent us on a business trip, armed only with AKS-74U assault rifles, which turned out to be ineffective in the current situation. And our ammunition, which was two equipped stores, did not meet the requirements of the situation. Naturally, on the second day of the siege, only a few rounds remained in our hands. In the commandant's office, unfortunately, a stock of ammunition was also not created.

Our request before sending about additional armament of the group was greeted with the words: “What are you going to fight there?”

The garrison of the Shali commandant's office survived only thanks to the shown composure, endurance, courage and perseverance. All defenders of the commandant's office remained faithful to their duty to the end.
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  1. Krilion
    Krilion 21 March 2013 08: 14 New
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    Commandant Shali took the necessary measures to repel the attack and reported everything to the headquarters of the Vostok group senior boss. However, he was in no hurry to make a decision ... for two whole days. And this despite the fact that this headquarters was located only six kilometers away.


    in this place it should be called the name of the freak .. the country should know its "heroes" ... "dot-y" pleased ... I would like to see a photo of the consequences of the strike ..
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 21 March 2013 09: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: Krilion
      in this place it should be called the name of the freak .. the country should know its "heroes" ...

      She knows - "great light" Pu .. Then being acting he ordered the president to unilaterally establish a moratorium on the conduct of hostilities in the Chechen Republic during the New Year holidays. Well, it was a "royal gift" to the militants who used it. But how else, - the feds are sitting still, not having the right to move a finger without the permission of Moscow, just come and take it warm. Does it resemble the story of the blockade of Grozny in August 1996?
      1. malikszh
        malikszh 21 March 2013 09: 40 New
        -1
        You are wrong due to the determination and Pu Russia won the war.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 21 March 2013 10: 46 New
          +9
          Russia won ??? Why are you smoking, do not tell? Therefore, probably there are no Russians left in Chechnya and Russia pays tribute, if only the Chechens again did not take up arms?
          1. Maple
            Maple 21 March 2013 12: 16 New
            +3
            Do not breed a panic!
            1. vjhbc
              vjhbc 21 March 2013 21: 34 New
              +1
              what a panic 300 thousand cut-out Russians and federal subsidies more than anyone
              1. Alex_g23r
                Alex_g23r 21 March 2013 23: 29 New
                +1
                They do not come first in subsidies.
          2. Forest
            Forest 21 March 2013 15: 07 New
            +7
            I would be surprised Dudaev, Maskhad and similar trash that they won the war.
            And Russia does not pay “tribute”, but money to restore order in Chechnya to the Kadyrov clan.
          3. Botanologist
            Botanologist 21 March 2013 16: 15 New
            15
            and Russia pays tribute, if only the Chechens again did not take up arms?

            I would divide your remark into two questions:
            1. Better to pay, or better send soldiers to death. A matter of taste, of course, but in the mountains one militant is enough at the pass, so that a lot of people will die. Especially if the pass is above 2500 above sea level and clouds cover it. So my opinion is that you do not need to fight with your own hands. There is Kadyrov, let him understand his own there. You don’t want a governor in Chechnya, do you? For it will be a very short governorship.
            2. In general, politics in the Caucasus. It is not very expensive to have a clan in Chechnya that cuts out all outsiders for the sake of its power. Calculate the cost of a constant war of garrisons in Chechnya with drug dealers, militants and other evil spirits. Do you think it will be cheaper? How much does one Mi-35 or Mi-28 helicopter cost? And how many will fall in a year? So money is an illusory thing.
            Well, as for tribute to the bandits, you are repeating the instructions for destabilizing the political situation, distributed by the State Department. Whether you like it or not, it's up to you, but you are a fighter on the information front. And, unfortunately, the State Department front. Even if it is from thoughtlessness, and not from evil.
            soldier
            1. Suvorov000
              Suvorov000 21 March 2013 17: 42 New
              +2
              in medicine, it would be easier to amputate and that’s all, it hurts, but the body lives on, and we don’t live rotting slowly with the ensuing consequences and complications
            2. aksakal
              aksakal 21 March 2013 17: 59 New
              +8
              Quote: Botanologist
              Do you think it will be cheaper?

              “Sober post, Botanologist.”
              I will add my observations. Ramzan is not an angel, but he steals from those subsidies much less than other federal officials and oligarchs of Russian and not entirely clear ethnic origin, and certainly less than colleagues from neighboring Dagestan. As far as I understood from his interview, everything that the State Department here called a tribute, Ramzan, as an ordinary proud guy from the Caucasus mountains is seen as a humiliating content that he wants to get rid of. I am sure that he is sleeping and sees how he will go out at a press conference with a puffed rooster and announce that Chechnya no longer needs subsidies, moreover, it is moving into the category of donor regions of the Russian Federation. Or I don’t understand people. I’m almost sure that this is exactly what Ramzan thinks. I also judge him by the actions - I don’t remember that any other President, including the Kazakhstan President, would be dismissed by the Minister for the extremely unethical behavior of his wife. Ramzan kicked out such a minister for the behavior of his wife during the conflict over parking in Moscow. This is a worthy deed. But this act is stubbornly not noticed by homegrown dissatisfied people, but they are credited with the devil who knows what is more characteristic of oligarchs of unknown ethnic origin. But these oligarchs have dangerous, maples, forests and other "trees" (which actually accurately reflects their properties laughing) no hostility ...
            3. dmb
              dmb 21 March 2013 22: 59 New
              +1
              That’s about the same way the outstanding political figures of our era, Poltoranin, Shakhrai, and the rest of the Shobla, headed by drunk Yeltsin, reasoned. They also believed that Dudaev would disperse Soviet Power in Chechnya, and then filled with deep gratitude for the high confidence placed in him, he would fall at the feet of the great Moscow sages and listen to their wise speeches. And he kicks them BACK. And us sinners. But that bastard remained in Moscow, and we Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians all over Russia in barracks. You are a specialist in the Caucasus, do you know the Vainakh mentality? Judging by your comment, money is the main measure of your values. I'm afraid I’m grieving you. For Kadyrov, money now has no fundamental value. He already needs power. It is for this purpose that he stubbornly pushes the idea of ​​transferring the Muslim spiritual center from Tatarstan to Chechnya, in which he finds more than active support from the Saudis and Qatars. He is naturally careful, but tries to show his teeth. This is in the territorial dispute with Yevkurov, and in the demonstrative giving away of apartments (for which he was timidly, but criticized by the iPhone Minister). Even the last show off at the stadium, it’s not the trick of an illiterate shepherd, but a check that the benefactor will give on the head or will allow “naughty” further. By the way, neither he nor Dudaev is the first. They had a predecessor, some Austrian corporal. What ended the allocation of money to him and the provision of preferences, I hope the election specialist does not need to be reminded.
            4. tomaz99
              tomaz99 22 March 2013 00: 02 New
              +3
              fool - do you think this is a hero of Russia? this is her shame!
              1. Guhbers
                Guhbers 22 March 2013 01: 15 New
                0
                Quote: tomaz99
                fool - do you think this is a hero of Russia? this is her shame!

                Like Breivik wassat
              2. vyatom
                vyatom 29 March 2013 11: 57 New
                +1
                It was his battalion that drove the Georgians in 2008
          4. kuga
            kuga 21 March 2013 18: 08 New
            +6
            What is cheap hysteria? There were no Russians in Chechnya under Dudaev. And ethnic cleansing began under Gorbachev. There are the roots of everything, what happened afterwards.

            Kadyrov’s choice on the part of the federal center was ideal — he was the supreme mufti — a man whose opinion was trusted by 80% of the population of Chechnya. He was not a field commander and was not directly involved in the shedding of blood of Russian children. It’s a pity that they blew it up. Well, Kadyrov’s son is a typical thief, without a father he was zero without a wand. By the way, in the first Chechen one, he was a jerk and worked as a carrier with his dad, now he is building an action movie from himself.
            1. fartfraer
              fartfraer 22 March 2013 07: 30 New
              0
              "The choice of Kadyrov from the federal center was ideal - he was the supreme mufti - a man whose opinion was trusted by 80% of the population of Chechnya. He was not a field commander and was not directly involved in the shedding of blood of Russian guys." - I don’t know what to call you so as not to insult, but express your opinion about your intellect. The older Kadyrov declared jihad against Russia, due to which the Dudaev was opposed by Muslims who had previously been restrained by the "ideological factor", that is. there is more blood on the Kadyrov’s than on any gelayev. and the younger Kadyrov headed the security service of the senior Kadyrov and it’s not that zero, considering that the number of Kadyrov’s from 16 thousand (with the oldest) increased to 40 (with this “zero”)
              it’s a shame when they write in such a post “it is necessary to fight with the wrong hands”, “Kadyrov is an angel”, etc. there is no function in your heads to look for a cause-effect relationship? So turn it on finally, start thinking!
        2. Heccrbq
          Heccrbq 21 March 2013 12: 47 New
          0
          Do you live on the moon or where? Look at the sizes of the transfers to the chukhnya, but God bless them if they were going to work, for ordinary people (I think, are there ordinary people there?) They go into the pocket of the academician knows what sciences and, damn it, how embarrassing it is to write, to the hero of the Russian Federation. This is called, as it were milder, a payment for loyalty, but the guarantor has an olympiad on his nose and God forbid the shepherds will explode there or take hostages.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 21 March 2013 14: 01 New
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            Quote: Heccrbq

            Do you live on the moon or where? Look at the sizes of the transfers to the chukhnya, but God bless them if they were going to work, for ordinary people (I think, are there ordinary people there?) They go into the pocket of the academician knows what sciences and, damn it, how embarrassing it is to write, to the hero of the Russian Federation. This is called, as it were softer, a fee for loyalty, but the guarantor has an olympiad on his nose and God forbid the shepherds will explode there or take hostages
            - I did not understand anything from your post. What does the Olympics have to do with it? Do you want to host the Olympics ?.
            Quote: Dangerous
            Therefore, probably there are no Russians left in Chechnya and Russia pays tribute, if only the Chechens again did not take up arms?
            - here’s another little post again ... Must I focus on this? In this case, both Chechens and Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation, and Russian citizens living in Chechnya, respectively, have the same rights as Russian citizens of other ethnic groups. Or am I misunderstood something? Or do you deny Chechens the right to citizenship? Or what? Or how? I don’t understand the idea of ​​your posts at all. Explain yourself. And then you can understand it like this: "what the hell is victory? Chechens from Chechnya did not go to the moon, Chechnya itself is not populated by Russians, accordingly, there is no victory, and Pu lost!" But nothing that the victory was won not over the Chechen people - such a task was not even set, but over the gangster illegal formations? And this victory is unconditional!
            So, I did not understand what moods here on the site are nurtured? I am Kazakh, if that. And if that, I do not really like these posts and the huge pluses under the posts. Waiting for an explanation
            1. Mitzhel
              Mitzhel 21 March 2013 14: 23 New
              -2
              And this victory is unconditional!


              And in confirming this unconditional victory, the budget of fully subsidized Chechnya is twice as large as, for example, the budget of the population of the Vladimir Region, which is similar in population to where “Russian citizens live and have the same rights as Russian citizens of other ethnic groups.” Not to mention the individual federal programs for gasification and electrification of Chechnya, budget places in Russian universities and the fact that Chechens are not drafted into the army.

              I remember very well how one of the main goals of the second war was declared to end the Russian genocide and restore constitutional order. The Rice genocide stopped because the Russians remained at the level of statistical error, and as for constitutional order, then just watch the film “Young Fortress” about young Kadyrovites and everything will become clear about the constitution and compliance with federal laws in the mono-ethnic Chechen Republic. Putin really suffered a crushing victory in Chechnya and now the Russian Federation dutifully pays subsidies / separations.
              1. Dangerous
                Dangerous 21 March 2013 14: 34 New
                -4
                What do you prove to him? Chel blindly believes in this "victory", why should he spoil the mood?)
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 21 March 2013 16: 24 New
                +4
                Quote: Mitzhel
                Vladimir region where "live citizens of the Russian Federation who have the same rights as citizens of the Russian Federation of other ethnic groups."

                - My dear, and the Vladimir region is a dangerous unstable zone, what is the Caucasus like? Many regions are subsidized in Russia, including those where only the Russian population lives, but your irritation is caused only by the fact of subsidized support to the Caucasus. What caused such selectivity and selectivity in the objects of your irritation?
                Quote: Mitzhel
                watch the film "Young Fortress" about young Kadyrovites
                - I'm not going to watch the highs of liberoids.
                Quote: Dangerous
                What do you prove to him? Chel blindly believes in this "victory", why should he spoil the mood?)
                - I repeat for the especially "gifted" - over the Chechen people, thereby receiving the subsidies that are causing your rage now, the victory was not won, because they did not fight with the Chechen people, but fought against illegal armed groups operating on the territory of Chechnya. These formations were defeated, they now do not represent Russia's global danger. Will you deny it? Do you seriously think that the war was with the Chechen people?
                Quote: Dangerous
                "Waiting for an explanation" who are you to wait for an explanation on the forum from its member? And there is no desire to enter into a polemic with you, because ... But although it does not matter.
                - Listen, my dear, you didn’t accidentally hit the shore? Where did you get so belligerent from here? Yesterday I registered on the site and then "who are you"? Did he even serve in the army? In the course, how is the spirit adopted in the Soviet army (and even now in the Russian)?
                1. Mitzhel
                  Mitzhel 21 March 2013 16: 40 New
                  -4
                  Vladimir region is a dangerous unstable zone, what is the Caucasus like? Many regions are subsidized in Russia, including those where only the Russian population lives, but your irritation is caused only by the fact of subsidized support to the Caucasus. What caused such selectivity and selectivity in the objects of your irritation?


                  What is the unstable zone? The war ended 10 years ago, who had long since been canceled. Chechnya today is the safest region of the Federation, the capital of Chechnya shines like Las Vegas, football stars, famous athletes, singers and other celebrities go to visit, a huge stadium is built, laser shows are held, there is the largest mosque in Europe and sound fountains, to French actors they give apartments in Grozny skyscrapers, Putin Avenue is once again finished with marble, gasification of the republic is such that the regions with the Russian population haven’t dreamed of, Chechen children are sent to rest in Turkey, but the republic doesn’t earn a damn, it only eats subsidies. And of course, the Russian Federation is full of subsidized regions. Only everything is known by comparison ... You can, for example, compare the same Caucasian Stavropol region with Chechnya. And immediately it will be clear who really won and who pays reparations to whom.

                  - I'm not going to watch the highs of liberoids.


                  laughing is a Chechen TV documentary a "libero vysery" ???
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 21 March 2013 18: 05 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Mitzhel
                    What is the unstable zone? The war ended 10 years ago, who had long since been canceled. Chechnya today is the safest region of the Federation, the capital of Chechnya shines like Las Vegas

                    - So doesn’t Ramzan deserve praise even for the fact that he efficiently and effectively assimilates subsidies, and this is evident in his country? No less money is being sent to neighboring Dagestan (I don’t have exact numbers, but something like that), but thanks to the Bilyalovs, Grozny is far from brilliant. And it won’t be until finally such a Ramzan appears in Makhachkala.
                    As for stability, stability is still a long way off in Chechnya - you have barely moved away from the abyss, you exaggerate stability in Chechnya, but I am generally silent about stability in the Caucasus as a whole. This is a distortion.
                    1. Mitzhel
                      Mitzhel 21 March 2013 18: 45 New
                      0
                      I don’t have exact numbers, but something like this


                      Arrange first and then talk. The budget of Dagestan is LESS than the budget of Chechnya although in Dagestan TWO times as many people live. And "such Ramzan" will never appear in Dagestan because Dagestan is a multinational republic and not a mononational territory like Chechnya.
                      1. aksakal
                        aksakal 21 March 2013 19: 59 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Mitzhel
                        Arrange first and then talk. The budget of Dagestan is LESS than the budget of Chechnya although in Dagestan TWO times as many people live. And "such Ramzan" will never appear in Dagestan because Dagestan is a multinational republic and not a mononational territory like Chechnya.
                        - links to the studio. And then with such pathos, where they took these numbers, and then we'll talk.
                      2. Mitzhel
                        Mitzhel 21 March 2013 23: 16 New
                        +1
                        links to the studio. And then with such pathos, where they took these numbers, and then we'll talk.


                        Links to the studio! laughing
                        budgets
                        http://www.grozny-inform.ru/main.mhtml?Part=9&PubID=29204
                        http://ug.ria.ru/economy/20111215/82216108.html

                        2010 census
                        http://chechnya.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/220752/
                        http://dagestan.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/220692/

                        1268989 live in Chechnya, the budget of 2012 is 67,5 billion rubles
                        2 910 249 live in Dagestan, the budget for 2012 is 65,557 billion rubles

                        when, next time, you want to lie, at least get better prepared ...
                  2. fartfraer
                    fartfraer 22 March 2013 07: 38 New
                    -1
                    aksakal, you are just a clear enemy)) so only the mentally retarded (which you can not say for sure) or the enemy can misinterpret.
              3. Dangerous
                Dangerous 21 March 2013 16: 52 New
                0
                Engage in other places; I’m not going to measure letters with you
          2. Dangerous
            Dangerous 21 March 2013 14: 33 New
            -6
            "Waiting for an explanation" who are you to wait for an explanation on the forum from its member? And there is no desire to enter into a polemic with you, because ... But although it does not matter.
            "I am Kazakh, if that" flag in your hands, dear
          3. Consul-t
            Consul-t 21 March 2013 16: 36 New
            +2
            Aksakal, what don’t you understand?
            People don’t like huge budget money rushing into Chechnya. Can you give an example in the form of some kind of area, for example, in the center of Russia, which would receive the same amount of funds per inhabitant?
            You will not find such.
            And the people then see everything. And where this money goes, they also see.
            When crazy about easy money, kids from the mountains go to Moscow and act like masters of life.
            DO YOU THINK THESE CHILDREN RESPECT RUSSIANS AND RUSSIA ???
            This is only tolerance for us.
            And gang formations? .. Destroyed?
            Say Kadyrov did not fight against the federals? And where is he now? ...
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 21 March 2013 16: 59 New
              +6
              Consul-t

              No Chechens are praising here. The question is something else - to fight there forever or calm down. And all the nagging about the "tribute" is unconvincing. America in Afghanistan even has to buy Russian helicopters, and to the fullest extent contains the local administration there - and nothing, without complexes. And here you wipe the snot "tribute". Or do you dream of ditching our thousands more 10 in the Caucasus? Patriots ... Renov.
              1. Mitzhel
                Mitzhel 21 March 2013 17: 22 New
                -3
                America in Afghanistan, even Russian helicopters forced to buy


                Horseradish comparison. It's not just about the money ... The United States in Afghanistan has its own interests, but spending it with the Americans does not allow Afghan thieves with gilded guns to travel around New York shooting in buses with US citizens. Do you dream that nothing remains in the CMS from the monument to Ermolov? Ympertsy ... Renov
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 21 March 2013 17: 26 New
                  +4
                  The United States in Afghanistan has its own interests, but spending it with the Americans does not allow Afghan thieves with gilded machine guns to travel around New York shooting in buses with US citizens

                  My visit to the poor neighborhoods of the United States is a little inconsistent with what you write here. On the buses, of course, do not shoot, but undress at a time. Although without gilded guns, more often with pistols and knives hi
                  1. Mitzhel
                    Mitzhel 21 March 2013 17: 35 New
                    +1
                    I was also in the USA and even visited one of the blackest and most criminal American cities - Memphis. It is not clear what the color ghettos in the USA have to do with the money for which the Americans maintain the administration and army of Afghanistan?
                    There are Afghan thieves with gilded assault rifles and shreds of special services, Afghan criminals, Afghan ethnic gangs, Afghan students-beneficiaries, Afghan gopniks, Afghan diasporas in the USA ??
                    1. aksakal
                      aksakal 21 March 2013 18: 34 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Mitzhel
                      Afghan beneficiaries

                      - these are definitely there. One even wrote a book, which became a bestseller. He lied about our Afghan soldiers there as best he could, which is probably why he became a bestseller. Khaled Hosseini, in my opinion.
                      Higher education is one of the most effective tools for promoting one's influence. Do you propose to refuse? No problem. Chechen students will find where to study, if they are unlikely to be taught pro-Russian things in Massachusetts and Harvard. You do not understand these things in any way? Or you really are so poor, or pretend to be so. Rather, the second. Question - why?
                      Quote: Mitzhel
                      there are Afghan diasporas in the US ??
                      - generally beyond doubt. Both the Chinese are, and the Russians are, and the Mexican network. And nothing live.
                    2. Mitzhel
                      Mitzhel 21 March 2013 18: 41 New
                      +2
                      And the thieves of the Afghan godfather with gilded stechkin across Washington cut? laughing shooting on buses and regularly flickering in crime reports ...
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 21 March 2013 18: 13 New
                0
                Quote: Mitzhel
                Horseradish comparison. It's not just about the money ... The United States in Afghanistan has its own interests, but spending it with the Americans does not allow Afghan thieves with gilded guns to travel around New York shooting in buses with US citizens. Do you dream that nothing remains in the CMS from the monument to Ermolov? Ympertsy ... Renov

                - Mihtshael, why are you planting ethnic hatred here? Judging by the nickname, if you really insist on this extremely unpleasant and at the same time sensitive topic, then let's talk about you. I guess by the nickname who you have already voiced more than once that the tidiness from the Caucasians is just babble in comparison with the troubles from you. It is clear that people like you don’t drive around Moscow with gilded guns ... But what are you driving around and why are driving around, we can talk, and this will be an unpleasant conversation for you. Maybe you still bury your mouth on this subject? Certainly not like you judge Caucasians am Or I will go on further escalation am
                1. Dangerous
                  Dangerous 21 March 2013 18: 23 New
                  0
                  Aksakal, do you have PMS or girls do not give? It’s necessary to somehow be calmer or something, do not cling to everyone who has a different opinion now ...
                2. Mitzhel
                  Mitzhel 21 March 2013 18: 37 New
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                  Or I will go on further escalation


                  Why did you lie about the fact that the documentary film of the Chechen TV "Young Fortress" is a high of liberoids? It’s not good to kindle a citizen!


                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRzc79KLaXo
          4. aksakal
            aksakal 21 March 2013 18: 27 New
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            Quote: Consul-t
            People don't like huge budget money rushing into Chechnya

            - Chechnya is not the Russian Federation? A country somewhere in Africa?
            I shared the indignation with pleasure when such countries were forgiven for debts for weapons supplied by the USSR, everyone saw ... But Chechnya is the Russian Federation! Why is there resentment? Almost the most advanced sports infrastructure in the world has been built in Kazan, again - both on its own Tatar and FED grandmas! - and nothing, there is no indignation! Because Kazan, like Grozny, is all Russia. If Grozny sparkles with the lights of wealth, as opponents write to me, isn’t that the same Russia sparkling with the same lights? Why are you stubbornly considering Chechnya as an alien body in Russia? Not needed - what's the question? They would say back in the 90s - get out! and wouldn’t ruin the lives of children. would have wrapped everything with a thorn - no questions. Or some other vision you have?
            They are planning to send billions to the Far East to accelerate its socio-economic development. Why is there no indignation that the Nenets with Yakuts will receive these lards?
            1. Mitzhel
              Mitzhel 21 March 2013 18: 49 New
              +1
              They are planning to send billions to the Far East to accelerate its socio-economic development. Why is there no indignation that the Nenets with Yakuts will receive these lards?


              Because there was no "genocide of the Russian and Russian-speaking population" (c) В В Putin, because there are no ethnic Yakut gangs in Russian cities, Yakut gopniks do not flail their guns and cries blocking traffic, thugs Nenets with gold do not drive through the streets of Moscow with pistols - is everything clear?
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 21 March 2013 19: 35 New
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                Quote: Mitzhel
                Because there was no "genocide of the Russian and Russian-speaking population" (c) В В Putin, because there are no ethnic Yakut gangs in Russian cities, Yakut gopniks do not flail their guns and cries blocking traffic, thugs Nenets with gold do not drive through the streets of Moscow with pistols - is everything clear?
                - Well, firstly, the very illegal gangs that suffered well-deserved punishment in the form of liquidation and complete defeat staged the genocide.
                Secondly, you inflate isolated cases to the size of a continuous Chechens ride on the roads of Russia in this form and with such weapons. Meanwhile, the same Buryat gangsters will be worse, it was they who two years ago gave a light to the Caucasian gangs two years ago, but it’s uninteresting to print the liberoid mass media about, the subject is unflagged and ungrateful for shattering the situation in Russia. You here deliberately inflate this topic, although you read the subject? We are talking about a successful special operation, and not about the relationship between Chechens and Russians. Why fanned this topic? And what do you care about the relationship between Russians and Chechens? Take care of the relationship between the Russians and your ethnic group, this is much more practical and reasonable, because the Russians have questions. A lot of them. For example, how the lion's share of Russian wealth turned out to be in the hands of representatives of your ethnic group. This is just one question that you’re tired of answering. This is good advice. And henceforth - I advise you not to pop up anymore on this site like hell out of the snuff-box with the awakening of this topic.
                1. Mitzhel
                  Mitzhel 21 March 2013 23: 30 New
                  +1
                  - Well, first of all, the very illegal gangs that carried a well-deserved punishment for it in the form of liquidation and complete defeat


                  And where are the criminal cases on the genocide of the Russian population? And then, after all, in those very illegal gangs who just couldn’t ... many, after the amnesty, got a good job in the Chechen police and the most outstanding ones reached Moscow without forgetting to grab a golden stechkin.

                  Secondly, you inflate isolated cases to the size of a continuous Chechens ride on the roads of Russia in this form and with such weapons. Meanwhile, the same Buryat gangsters will be worse, it was they who two years ago gave a light to the Caucasian gangs two years ago, but it’s uninteresting to print the liberoid mass media about, the subject is unflagged and ungrateful to undermine the situation in Russia.


                  Secondly, you will find at least one piece of news where Buryat police officers seconded to Msk with gold pistols fired on the bus, shoot in a tavern or who was kidnapped and tortured. It’s not just about bandits from the Caucasus, Moscow and the rest of the big cities are full ... ordinary bandits do not shine with golden pistols and do not forget the Stechkins in taverns

                  You here deliberately inflate this topic, although you read the subject? We are talking about a successful special operation, and not about the relationship between Chechens and Russians. Why fanned this topic? And what do you care about the relationship between Russians and Chechens? Take care of the relationship between the Russians and your ethnic group, this is much more practical and reasonable, because the Russians have questions. A lot of them. For example, how the lion's share of Russian wealth turned out to be in the hands of representatives of your ethnic group. This is just one question that you’re tired of answering. This is good advice. And henceforth - I advise you not to pop up anymore on this site like hell out of the snuff-box with the awakening of this topic.


                  Our ethnic group is a very talented ethnic group that controls 80% of the world's wealth and built paradise on a piece of desert. But my ethnicity has nothing to do with the conversation, because while I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, I am not indifferent to the fate of the Russian and Russian-speaking population, which, unfortunately, did not save our Great National Leader in Chechnya. And yet, from now on, I advise you, before starting to lie and dodge, it is better prepared for a conversation.
          5. Alex_g23r
            Alex_g23r 21 March 2013 23: 43 New
            +1
            When crazy about easy money, kids from the mountains go to Moscow and act like masters of life.
            Their "golden" youth is going to Moscow.
        3. Suvorov000
          Suvorov000 21 March 2013 17: 50 New
          +1
          Half of the country is in touch, the other half is stealing godlessly, and we are preparing for the Olympics, it seems that the Olympics in our country got muddied so that the grandmothers aren’t sick, and then burn it all with a clear flame, people die from hunger, they even want pensioners in general destroy, and we are all happy, on the screens of a zombie walker. In the ass this Olympics, let the people first do something and don’t have to rub it, that it’s done for the people and do it, shit it all, everything that was built for the people’s money has not yet been sold, you’ll sell apartments for what price, complexes already in absentia leased and resold, and to the next lovers of phrases: “give a link where the facts are”, go to the place where the facts are, the facts are outside your window. At least get out of my way
        4. fartfraer
          fartfraer 22 March 2013 07: 34 New
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          to put the leaders of the IAF on the administration of the republic now an unconditional victory? aksakal, and what do you think, if you unconditionally defeated pedophile maniacs and put Chikatilo at the head of the state, would the level of murders be lower today?
  2. BARKAS
    BARKAS 21 March 2013 09: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Prometey
    Then being acting he ordered the president to unilaterally establish a moratorium on the conduct of hostilities in the territory of the Chechen Republic

    Any order of any boss implies common sense in its execution and the "freak" who did not come to the aid of his subordinates must answer as he is simply or a coward, which is the same.
  3. mehanik27
    mehanik27 23 March 2013 00: 03 New
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    With a bunch of questions to Voldemar, this passage in his direction is not entirely clear ... he only just became acting of the president ... how could he be responsible for this? What was he supposed to do when he received the reins of government on the first thing to send troops to fight by combatant?
  • malikszh
    malikszh 21 March 2013 16: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Krilion
    Commandant Shali took the necessary measures to repel the attack and reported everything to the headquarters of the Vostok group senior boss. However, he was in no hurry to make a decision ... for two whole days. And this despite the fact that this headquarters was located only six kilometers away.


    in this place it should be called the name of the freak .. the country should know its "heroes" ... "dot-y" pleased ... I would like to see a photo of the consequences of the strike ..

    maybe it was right that the special forces didn’t send then there would be a lot of losses, and here only the Wahhabis were destroyed by a rocket
  • dmb
    dmb 21 March 2013 23: 14 New
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    Tell me, in addition to the portrait on the profile picture, you read something from Che about the tactics of guerrilla warfare. In general, do you have a military education, or only on the Internet, for the films of Suvorov and Shtrafbat? In the first, the tactics consisted of a snatched sword and a cry: “Forward miracle heroes”, and the second was supplemented by m ... who did not leave the headquarters and sent soldiers to the slaughter. I will upset you. M..ki who did not know tactics and threw reinforcements immediately after the signal of shelling of the commandant's office or checkpoint. But the 10 bandits fired on the man, and the rest sat in ambush on the paths of the possible reinforcements approach and beat them on the march. Then the order was given to have at each stronghold a three-day supply of food and ammunition and not to expect that at the first signal they would run headlong to save. War is not a toy on a computer.
  • Greyfox
    Greyfox 21 March 2013 08: 35 New
    +4
    A description of this battle was given in more detail by his participant (Sergey Svatok) in the magazine “Soldier of Fortune.” He also shared his impressions of the “Point” strike.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 21 March 2013 10: 33 New
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      Can I ask for a link? I will be grateful.
      1. Greyfox
        Greyfox 21 March 2013 11: 36 New
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        I read in paper form No. 12 for the 2001 year. I have a magazine scan (pdf). I could not find articles on the network. If I need to send it to soap. As an option, download the scan from the tracker
  • erased
    erased 21 March 2013 08: 47 New
    +7
    The full article was printed in S. Kozlov’s book “Special Forces of the GRU” - 2.
    And then and now the fact of betrayal of some ranks from the leadership is noteworthy. And after all, they had nothing, just at their posts, someone climbed higher.
    It is simply dangerous, such people in power openly betray the country and people and serve the enemies. In case of war, they are the finished fifth column.
    1. Heccrbq
      Heccrbq 21 March 2013 12: 54 New
      +2
      The extreme degree of cynicism and betrayal was found in the story of the events in Pervomaisk, the author is the same blinded officer who in Military Secret on Ren-TV talked about these events, but in the film 20 percent of the truth.
      http://artofwar.ru/z/zaripow_a/text_0010.shtml
  • radio operator
    radio operator 21 March 2013 08: 56 New
    +7
    Beat Points made a lot of noise among the militants.
    They tried in vain to find out who gave the order, who shot.
    Fortunately, among our rats was not. At that moment. And how many cases when officers in Russia were threatened by relatives, and all because of corrupt Judas, of Slavic nationality.
  • goody
    goody 21 March 2013 08: 58 New
    +1
    Where are the investigating authorities looking? It’s time to raise such moments for prosecution. So that it would be disastrous to allow such actions to continue!
    1. Alone
      Alone 21 March 2013 10: 41 New
      +4
      Do you think the investigating authorities will raise cases against people at the highest echelons of power?
  • smel
    smel 21 March 2013 10: 36 New
    +3
    We must thank the beginning of reconnaissance of one of the units of 50 glanders, who accidentally came to the commandant's office. Only thanks to him, the exact coordinates got to the performers.
    You can read about this event in the book of Troshev.
    Those who worked received "Thank you" for their work.
    The militants were not at the rally, but before the assault organized a dance in the square, their own, beloved.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 21 March 2013 21: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: smel
      The militants were not at the rally, but before the assault organized a dance in the square, their own, beloved.
      - so this is an indispensable attribute of all their rallies laughing Ritual dance before the fight was not allowed to dance, ah-ah! laughing
      And at the point how many kg warhead? 213 killed at once - per ton it seems. Does this racket carry so much? It seemed to me a small and modest quiet smile
  • zao74
    zao74 21 March 2013 11: 02 New
    +1
    Give Judas to the relatives of the dead soldiers and ... turn away.
  • Alex45
    Alex45 21 March 2013 11: 55 New
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    I would like to know photos from the scene of what is happening in the article or just a selection?
    In the photo, the guy with the walkie-talkie looks great like my friend. The time of his service, and the place coincide, and he fought on self-propelled guns.
    If this is him, then probably he doesn’t know about such a photo.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 21 March 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Krilion
    Commandant Shali took the necessary measures to repel the attack and reported everything to the headquarters of the Vostok group senior boss. However, he was in no hurry to make a decision ... for two whole days. And this despite the fact that this headquarters was located only six kilometers away.


    in this place it should be called the name of the freak .. the country should know its "heroes" ... "dot-y" pleased ... I would like to see a photo of the consequences of the strike ..

    We have enough of such bosses, even too much, and if they are under the law of wartime angry
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 21 March 2013 13: 41 New
    +3
    When you read the memories of the Chechen wars, the impression is that the Russian troops did not fight on their territory, with overwhelming quantitative and technical superiority, but were in the rear of the enemy, fighting off punitive forces. Units are also blocked according to many recollections, there was no particular place to wait for help, although, as a rule, the neighbors were in a couple-three km.
    1. MAG
      MAG 21 March 2013 18: 17 New
      +1
      Something like that, and more often than not, attacks on screams and blocks took place at night for no more than 3 hours and a withdrawal, and while the attack was on, there were Chekhov barriers on the roads! in the summer of 2001, they removed the outpost from May Day, after which the Czechs walked quietly, slept and treated (the top gunner of the guni), we scared them at home, but they all knew how to clean up the time when the extension routes started and the end! ceased to report and the results went, but our valiant police began to start business, they spat and began to wait for a change
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 21 March 2013 13: 44 New
    0
    Quote: erased
    The full article was printed in S. Kozlov’s book “Special Forces of the GRU” - 2.
    And then and now the fact of betrayal of some ranks from the leadership is noteworthy. And after all, they had nothing, just at their posts, someone climbed higher.
    It is simply dangerous, such people in power openly betray the country and people and serve the enemies. In case of war, they are the finished fifth column.

    For these people, they exchanged values, honor, courage, valor for money, meanness, betrayal. It is now being promoted that there is nothing more expensive than money, it’s bad, it needs to be escorted. It’s so good that there are still a lot of great guys going to the army and defending the Motherland, and how bad it is that there are so many mercantile, greedy scum and those who can’t be attributed to the male tribe, I mean pid .... v!
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 21 March 2013 13: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Heccrbq
    The extreme degree of cynicism and betrayal was found in the story of the events in Pervomaisk, the author is the same blinded officer who in Military Secret on Ren-TV talked about these events, but in the film 20 percent of the truth.
    http://artofwar.ru/z/zaripow_a/text_0010.shtml

    Great book !!!
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 21 March 2013 13: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: Alone
    р

    And remember, quite recent events, as a result of Chechnya, requested in the archives data on the soldiers who took part in the war, and then in the center of Moscow these "soldiers" were shot angry
    1. George
      George 21 March 2013 14: 33 New
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      Hello everyone .
      In many docs. In films, our fighters, commenting on certain actions of our troops, hid their faces and changed their voices. You can just fuck it!
      But the mountain "freedom fighters" openly, without hiding and hiding, talk about their affairs.
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 21 March 2013 16: 14 New
      +1
      To do this, there is a representative office of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Chechen Republic in Moscow - approximately a platoon with the Stechkins.
  • super-vitek
    super-vitek 21 March 2013 14: 15 New
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    It’s very gratifying to read that literate people commanded in such circumstances! We were able to evaluate the situation using all available fire weapons, and at the same time show tactical ingenuity, thereby saving the lives of fighters. And once again I am convinced that in modern local conflicts, communication and an effective information field are a guarantee success !!! And of course, precision weapons !!!
  • itr
    itr 21 March 2013 18: 54 New
    +1
    In my opinion this is the story of a liaison officer
    1. Cpa
      Cpa 21 March 2013 21: 42 New
      +3
      Most likely the GRU special forces, they have a communications officer in the group with the SKS. One possibly important detail is not mentioned, they did not respond to the HF stations at the headquarters, but they didn’t answer the SCS to a completely different headquarters, which doesn’t have a problem attracting the point. but they were lucky with the scouts, otherwise they would not have been saved. hi
  • Guhbers
    Guhbers 22 March 2013 01: 14 New
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    Quote: tomaz99
    fool - do you think this is a hero of Russia? this is her shame!

    Like Breivik wassat
  • rodevaan
    rodevaan 22 March 2013 04: 24 New
    +1
    I wonder how many bearded wimps put in that battle?
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 22 March 2013 09: 34 New
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    Quote: tomaz99
    fool - do you think this is a hero of Russia? this is her shame!

    Here is another hero! am