Cossacks sent, or two from the side, there are no ours ...

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Cossacks sent, or two from the side, there are no ours ...

I am from a military family, and since childhood I remember this catch phrase: “There is such a profession - to defend the Motherland!” And now, watching the scandal flare up around deputy Gudkov Jr., I think: is it also a profession to betray your Motherland? Or is it a state of mind? This story It doesn’t give me peace, but how much I wouldn’t think about it, I can’t figure out for myself what is worse: professional anti-state activity, fueled by mercantile interests, or the same kind of acts performed for personal ideological reasons? Even for me, a certified psychologist and political scientist, this is a problem.

Of course, I am far from thinking of accusing Dmitry Gudkov of espionage. This young, glamorous deputy at the moment is unlikely to seriously interest any special services, he has not yet reached the influence agent. But he had already betrayed his country. It would seem that there is this: just spoke in the US at an international forum. Practically "innocent prank" of a young deputy, not very well versed in the intricacies of world politics and the activities of special services. But he spoke at the Freedom House forum. It is organized and carried out by current and retired CIA employees. Any literate political scientist will confirm this (not one of those, of course, who mumbles on television in defense of Gudkov).

The same CIA officers, by the way, select the forum participants. Therefore, a separate question: how Gudkov, who calls himself the son of a scout, got there. Somehow I got in, and from the rostrum of the forum from the bottom of my heart tried to discredit the Russian state, the domestic political elite, and especially the President, saying that Vladimir Putin illegally seized power in the country. “Affter Putin`s crackdown” - this is how this passage sounded openly in the deputy's speech. ("Crackdown" in translation means: "forceful action", "repressive action", "punitive measures", "suppression of resistance"). And now let's think about it: the people's choice, a civil servant by status, is going to a forum held, to put it mildly, by "unfriendly structures." And at this forum he calls on such a powerful military-political machine as the CIA to help Russia in the fight against corruption. So, do not hesitate to invite to your country the authors and organizers of the so-called "Arab spring", the bloody consequences of which cannot be called otherwise than terrifying! Speaking at the American forum, Gudkov Jr. did not even remember this. But without any twinge of conscience - in fact, publicly - he called on specialists in the "color revolutions" to complete the business called "Russian winter" (remember the events in Moscow the year before last, here, too, they could not do without them)! And this is already too much for any oppositionist, and there is nothing to say about a civil servant.

It is time to recall the Novgorod posadnik of Gostomysl, who came to Rurik a thousand years ago with the words: “Our lands are large and rich, but there is no order in them. Come and own us! ” Rurik did not refuse, he came. And so now we are waiting for the open appearance of gentlemen from the CIA, it seems, as voluntary and disinterested fighters against corruption, and in fact fighters with the Russian political elite and Russia as such?

I don’t know what the intelligence officer Gudkov Sr. was there, but I just can’t understand where Gudkov Jr. has such an ideological orientation. Isn't it from dad? No wonder that in Russia they say: “the apple does not fall far from the apple tree”. But it seems to me that in his actions the son of a scout outdid the father. One could, of course, laugh at this along with CNN's presenter, who told me from the television screen that the Russians, along with money, began to bring litter from America to America. But for some reason, no laughing matter. Such people as Gudkov, I call “flipped over” and always recall the words of Gleb Zheglov, addressed to a former comrade who had become afraid and lost as a result of Fox: “Damn you! You have betrayed all of us! ”

By the way, it is curious that all the most high-profile political scandals of the last time are connected with the deputy corps. The current convocation of the State Duma is generally the champion for the entire existence of the lower chamber of the Federal Assembly. I have already ceased to be surprised at all that is happening there, and am waiting for a scandalous wave to spread to the Federation Council. But compared to Gudkov, any oligarch who has lost his deputy’s mandate seems to be a harmless and bright person. In his case, it might be useful to recall a criminal article on treason against the motherland.

I really do not envy Sergey Mironov. With the "Fair Russia" is associated with the majority of dirty Duma scandals. And the political niche occupied by his party is very promising and therefore attractive. No matter how someone else took it ...

But this is what is said, by the way. And about Gudkov, perhaps, that's enough too. In the end, he is just a pawn. Perhaps even worse - a puppet in the hands of experienced puppeteers who are leading a well-planned ideological information war against Russia. And these “voluntary” and “disinterested” special agents-puppeteers by and large do not even need to call Russia. They are already here and feel at home. I constantly meet at various forums and conferences of representatives of the US State Department, who openly and brazenly spread our negative attitude towards Russia, demonstrating double standards in assessing the processes occurring in the country, both economic and political.

I wrote a lot and talked about it. The most expanded in February of this year, commenting on the regular Gaidar Forum held in Moscow under the loud title: "Russia and the World: Challenges of Integration." In my article titled “They talked about Russia and forgot about the Russians,” I wrote about the huge number of foreign guests who flooded the forum, especially American scientists, in relation to some of which I would even use the word “scientist” in quotes. Their statements hardly corresponded to the declared scientific specialty, and they argued not so much about the economy, as about the political situation in Russia.

In this regard, I cannot but recall a landmark dialogue with a professor from the University of Los Angeles. In Russia, in his opinion, there should be more discussions, more political freedom, less intimidation and restrictions in contacts for scholars with their colleagues abroad, as well as more political statements. I asked the professor who of the scientists are oppressed in Russia and who. He remembered the law on NGOs. “Scientists of these structures are scientists,” he said, “and they were insultingly called agents.” “But after all, in NGOs,” I objected, “there are no scientists. These are organizations that are groups of influence on certain political processes, for which they receive foreign grants. In the same America, similar activities are strictly monitored. Those grants that come from abroad cannot be used in the political activities of pressure groups within the country. This is world practice. ”

The professor answered me in the sense that maybe he was mistaken, but in any case he does not like the processes taking place in Russia today, and he is unlikely to reconsider his views. Of course not. Why should a “professor” revise his views if NGOs in Russia have not gone away with the adoption of the new law? Most of them simply did not re-register as foreign agents and stopped receiving official money transfers from abroad. After all, there, behind the hill, the pragmatists are sitting. They closed only the official Russian representative offices of Western foundations, which once again underlines the moral “cleanliness” of ideologists from the special services. Russian NPOs seem to be sent by them to “free” swimming. It is not clear just what means they exist for. But this is a question for the Russian special services.

I remember very well how the activities of these non-profit structures in our country were commented on by the American parliamentarian from the US Democratic Party. “Ten years of work were NGOs in Russia funded by foreign foundations,” he said. “If we had this, their employees would have been in prison on the second day.”

As you can see, opinions on this matter vary widely in the United States. As probably the attitude to Russia. I am pretty sure that ordinary Americans, for the most part, treat us quite well. With the exception of a group of hostile politicians who hate Russia at the pathological level. For them, the cold war has not ended and will never end, because it has become the form of their existence in politics and the goal of life. They send us a “professorship” with a special preparation that has nothing to do with science. And it is they who are leading an active ideological information war against Russia, pushing through anti-Russian rhetoric through paid journalists and mass media.

And since there is a war, it is necessary to fight, to respond adequately. How much can endure endless pressure, teachings and impunity with mud! The best defense, as you know, is an attack. So why not move the response to the territory of the enemy?

I have never collaborated with the special services, but I know from what I read: back in the thirties of the last century, the Soviet special services did what they wanted in the United States and Europe. And, on the contrary, on the territory of the Soviet Union there was no talk at all about any serious spy. Moreover, in all the numerous wars that waged the USSR or Russia, we always won not only by force weapons on the battlefields, but also by the professional work of the domestic intelligence services behind enemy lines. Everybody knows about it, countless books have been written and a great many feature films and documentaries have been shot. Of course, no one will ever tell how it is with the struggle on the invisible front today. But many things are already visible. From informational messages, we know how successfully numerous counter-terrorist operations are carried out inside Russia, how the actions of the pseudo-opposition led by Georgian special services are exposed. But all this is happening inside the country. But judging by the arrogance and impunity of our opponents, the confrontation on the ideological or information field is still not in favor of the Russian side.

I do not believe that there was not enough strength for full participation in the information war or there were no worthy people. There is, although it is difficult and expensive. But after all, no more than the Sochi Olympics or the World Cup! Just need to start some actions to decisively curb the loosening of power in Russia from the outside. If the power in Russia is not strong and tough, anarchy will come, which is what our ideological opponents are trying to achieve.

I do not believe that people who are obliged to engage in such activities in the nature of their service, burdened with big posts and big stars on epaulets, do not realize this. Do they really think that, by being careful, not fully fulfilling their official functions, they are doing what Russia needs? How will their children and grandchildren live in this country if the Western model of liberal democracy invented specifically for Russia wins in it? Or, maybe, they assume that they will survive if the Western special services succeed in shaking the radical left wing of the Russian opposition through the media? What future do they choose for themselves and their loved ones, based on possible scenarios?

According to the latest data of sociological polls, in Russia now the demand of society for justice is higher than ever. More than 70 percent of respondents vote for this. These data are known, and they can easily be played like a trump card by Western intelligence agencies in the ongoing ideological confrontation. And they are already playing out: please help in the fight against corruption from this series. They waited.

Is it not time to move to concrete decisive actions, taking everything that is happening not just as a rampant political pluralism and international “partnership”, but to finally learn how to clearly distinguish who are friends and who are enemies? To make friends with friends and develop Russia, and with enemies - to fight with all available methods. I think that if we all want this, then we will be able to cleanse Russia of all stench: false friends, pseudo partners and "rabid liberals" with double standards.
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  1. +48
    20 March 2013 11: 53
    Gudkov in flight, a joyful fact ......
    Two mu.d.a.p.a.m. and in the Duma will be less ....... Maybe .....
    1. S_mirnov
      +7
      20 March 2013 12: 04
      Given the fact that the mandates of deputies of the State Duma are sold like seeds in the bazaar, they hope that there are no conceivable number of deputies in the State Duma who really protect the interests of the people of the Russian Federation.
      Therefore, only the complete dissolution of this parody of the State Duma can really change something.
      And a popular vote by the people for specific candidates, not party lists with the ability to sell mandates to notorious scoundrels and secular freaks.
      What we are observing now is mouse fuss, the real result of which is getting dark!
      1. +29
        20 March 2013 12: 35
        And a popular vote by the people for specific candidates, not party lists with the ability to sell mandates to notorious scoundrels and secular freaks.


        Sorry, but this is nonsense the same as voting on the lists !!! In general, the election in a group of people is more than 5 thousand (where almost everyone knows each other by sight), this is nonsense, since in large groups the person who will have the largest funding will win, and who has the largest funding? ?? Fair man???? That's right, no! So the thief, a corruptionist or a representative of "democracy" and a "liberal" financed from abroad will sooner win! So yours are not dancing, most likely you are provoking Mr. Smirnov, your post with a double meaning, designed for narrow-minded people!
        1. S_mirnov
          +2
          20 March 2013 13: 00
          Any comment provokes. And the meaning of my koment is straightforward and clear - the modern State Duma is a dunghill and needs to be re-elected.
          As for the bastard’s account of power for the bastards, my position on this issue has not changed.
          http://igpr.ru/nasha_tsel
          1. +6
            20 March 2013 14: 11
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Any comment provokes. And the meaning of my koment is straightforward and clear - the modern State Duma is a dunghill and needs to be re-elected.
            As for the bastard’s account of power for the bastards, my position on this issue has not changed.

            And you may ask, who, in your opinion, should now be in the Duma and the Government, or even be the president?
            1. S_mirnov
              +1
              20 March 2013 20: 09
              "who, in your opinion, should now be in the Duma and the Government, or even be the president" - people primarily defending the interests of the people of the Russian Federation and naturally under the control of this people.
              1. +3
                20 March 2013 22: 29
                people primarily protecting the interests of the people of the Russian Federation and naturally controlled by this people.


                Unfortunately, a beautiful democratic utopia !!!! Who will give money for the elections. on advertising, he will steer those who are elected, which is what happens in "developed", "civilized", "democratic" and "liberal" countries !!! Capital rules there, and all the other hired managers (presidents, prime ministers and deputies)!
              2. 0
                21 March 2013 09: 20
                Quote: S_mirnov
                people primarily protecting the interests of the people of the Russian Federation and naturally controlled by this people.

                These are beautiful words, I asked you about specific and famous people. Do you see them? Surnames, if possible.
                1. 0
                  21 March 2013 10: 51
                  Really democrats are not visible and they themselves are confused about how to choose them, It’s clear that they won’t miss the normal thing and he probably willn’t want to, because you need to change guidelines and don’t cling to what doesn’t bring anything but bitterness, And the authorities, with the stubbornness of a rhino, still carry out what does she need and not the people, And the most important thing is that she doesn’t care that most of this doesn’t accept After all, I understand that a lot of what is done from there from the 90s then all kinds of agreements were signed, And they have to be fulfilled, It just infuriates me how they do it, But how they kick out they start hang all the dogs on those who stayed, But he himself seems to have nothing to do with it. He is a democrat and most importantly they give a signal up. The main signal.
                  1. YuDDP
                    0
                    21 March 2013 23: 07
                    It is time to recall the Novgorod posadnik Gostomysl, who came to Rurik a thousand years ago with the words: “Our lands are large and plentiful, but there is no order in them. Come and own us! ” Rurik did not refuse, he came.

                    1. vyatom
                      0
                      22 March 2013 12: 34
                      А
                      Quote: YuDDP
                      Rurik did not refuse, he came.

                      And in vain
                2. vyatom
                  0
                  22 March 2013 11: 23
                  Ryzhkov for example.
              3. vyatom
                0
                22 March 2013 11: 39
                Quote: S_mirnov
                "who, in your opinion, should now be in the Duma and the Government, or even be the president" - people primarily defending the interests of the people of the Russian Federation and naturally under the control of this people.

                The question of the legitimacy of the current Duma. The huge percentage that EP received by rigging the elections is obvious. Re-conducting the elections is very expensive. Unfortunately, the mess that we really want to use the adversaries, led by the CIA. BUT maybe this will serve as an incentive for our leaders.
          2. +3
            20 March 2013 14: 43
            Remember how the Agnian stables were cleared of manure ?!
            1. +1
              20 March 2013 16: 32
              Hercules cleared the Augean stables from manure as a punishment for the murder of his children. Did you mean that?
          3. alex popov
            +7
            20 March 2013 16: 37
            Quote: S_mirnov
            dung heap and it needs to be re-elected.

            yeah. and the next re-election. and the next one. and the next one. and so on until you get a result that would suit those who wrote it. Delirium and insanity. There will always be someone who does not like something. what you offer leads to civil war.
          4. ksv2011
            +2
            20 March 2013 19: 58
            Comrade S_mirnov, you lost this game and can rest until the next election, the dunghill and the bastards, these are the 90s who steered the country, so don’t disgrace the uniform of the Soviet and Russian officers, you’ll change your profile picture soldier
            1. S_mirnov
              -4
              20 March 2013 20: 13
              I have a complete order with the avatar. And until the next election, if normal people calm down, then we will be controlled by traders. Do you see me focused on this? So here's a radish for you!
            2. -1
              21 March 2013 10: 50
              Did you decide he lost?
          5. 0
            21 March 2013 06: 38
            Quote: S_mirnov
            the modern State Duma is a dunghill and must be re-elected.

            This is still put it mildly. Look who is sitting there, only Businessmen who are engaged only in protecting their interests and those of their business, and they don’t give a damn about the people. As always loot in Russia, and over the hill with his 30 pieces of silver. And by this Gudkov, one must give a knee under their HUMP a long time ago, stinks from this horn
          6. 0
            21 March 2013 13: 42
            As the overly emotional, but essentially completely accurate post-above shows, re-electing the Duma is a monkey's work. If the track was recorded by "Gop my Greek people", the hope to hear Bach from it is close to zero smile
            Democracy is structured in such a way that no matter how you change the rule of elections, there will always be only thieves, bandits and their representatives in large samples. The opinion of the people is the basis of the state, if the state does not take it into account, ignores it and goes against it, such a state will inevitably collapse, burying the self-confident fool-rulers under it.
            But taking democracy into account is like slicing bread with a sledgehammer. No, of course, we will grind bread ...
          7. Oleg Rosskiyy
            0
            21 March 2013 19: 39
            Quote: S_mirnov
            the meaning of my koment is direct and clear - the modern State Duma is a dunghill and it needs to be re-elected.

            Where are the guarantees that the re-elected State Duma will not turn out to be a new, freshly piled dung heap, if you can’t give them, then why is this a mess and throwing out people's money for the election of new thieves and corruption officials.
        2. Explore
          +4
          20 March 2013 13: 52
          Quote: neri73-r
          And a popular vote by the people for specific candidates, not party lists with the ability to sell mandates to notorious scoundrels and secular freaks.


          Sorry, but this is the same nonsense as voting on lists !!! In general, there are more than 5 thousand electives in a group of people (where almost everyone knows each other in person)


          I even know where it comes from. "Project Russia" Books 1-4. Everything is good and everything is correct. Just one question: what are your options?
          Alas, I pondered both about the monarchy and about "people's-Soviet" democracy, in the end I agreed with Churchill's opinion: "Democracy is the worst form of government, if you don't count all the others."
          1. +6
            20 March 2013 15: 00
            I even know where it comes from. "Project Russia" Books 1-4.


            This is not taken from there (the thought itself), although similar or similar is written there (read), but it is taken in such a detailed version from Anatoly Wasserman, he somehow formulates thoughts in a simpler and more accessible way! And if about "options", then the Soviet system and way of life suits me better, since I met my majority in the USSR, I have something to compare with!
            1. +2
              20 March 2013 16: 39
              Quote: neri73-r
              And if about "options", then the Soviet system and way of life suits me better, since I met my majority in the USSR, I have something to compare with!

              I absolutely agree. Hrenius capitalismus is fed up.
      2. +19
        20 March 2013 12: 38
        Nikolay, hi.
        ".. The Gudkovs are in flight," but, in my opinion, the fact is not happy.
        "..Two m.u.d.k.a.m. and there will be less in the Duma ....... Maybe ..." - ????
        And why not two ... customers anymore ... in Sailor silence, for example?
        Or, for starters - better in Lefortovo .. ???
        What the hell??? These two .. citizen Gadyukin - for ours and you ... and S_mirnova’s score ... drank and ate, rode over the hill, opened accounts in Cyprus ..
        and they will only be withdrawn from the Duma?
        Deprived of Depupat immunity? Or why? (there is no error).
        ..
        Who should I write to? Where? Request for "highest social protection measure"?
        Incitement to aggression ..... active espionage actions .. disrespect for the head of state ... well there .. on the little things - bribes in especially large ...
        1. +8
          20 March 2013 12: 51
          Quote: Igarr
          The Gudkovs are in flight, "but, in my opinion, the fact is not happy.

          Igor, they showed the true face of our deputy corps ..........
          In all its glory ...... The vast majority of those there ......
          The dollar in the eyes, inside the emptiness ....... And the people? Yes, they pooh on the people ....
          People what, money is all ......
          1. redwolf_13
            -2
            20 March 2013 16: 26
            Ha just them? And others are so good. Well, the younger one dug up and raised a bucket of Gudkov about the accumulation and savings of the EDR. And what that cried out.
            Over in Cyprus it became tightly decided to shake the banks as our government and deputies howled. Why is that. Something I didn’t hear how the deputies were yelling when the default came in 90. Or the money given to the states to banks so that they do not die back, no one returned it. Where is the scream where is the tantrum NET.
            Now tell me where cheating is where. Well, a guy rolled up in the USA and that who heard what the conversation was about. I’m interested in his words and not what started to catch up on him. He pulled Pekhtin to clean water. What is it for you? But I know what kind of person this is, how he was breaking up energy in the Far East and what he was doing next. That's where the betrayal is.
            Now let's minus
            1. alex popov
              +7
              20 March 2013 16: 40
              Quote: redwolf_13
              Now let's minus

              And what to minus? "both are worthy." Gudok Jr. is engaged in "revelations" not for the benefit of the Motherland, but for the sake of political dividends. And, to the heap, he surrenders his homeland to direct enemies.
            2. +8
              20 March 2013 16: 45
              Quote: redwolf_13
              Now let's minus

              Why.
              You are a plus. You are convincing.
              For me personally, that the Gudkovs, that the Pekhtins, that the Zhirinovs, that the Mironovs with the Zyuganovs and the Naryshkins, in addition to one crap.
              People thinking about their selfish-career interests. This is the opinion of the work of the Duma in general.
              1. +2
                20 March 2013 17: 02
                Quote: baltika-18
                Quote: redwolf_13
                Now let's minus

                Why.
                You are a plus. You are convincing.
                For me personally, that the Gudkovs, that the Pekhtins, that the Zhirinovs, that the Mironovs with the Zyuganovs and the Naryshkins, in addition to one crap.
                People thinking about their selfish-career interests. This is the opinion of the work of the Duma in general.


                Exactly! In this list you need to add all kinds of Germans and Deripaskas with Prokhorovs, there will be a complete zoo!
            3. +8
              20 March 2013 21: 06
              Quote: redwolf_13
              Over in Cyprus it became tightly decided to shake the banks as our government and deputies howled.


              There, Merkel decided to check Putin weakly, as a result, she sat in a puddle.
              And the result Cyprus offers Moscow banks and deposits in exchange for money not the EU and the IMF, note that Moscow has real resources in its hands and not the inflated assets of interest rate ghouls
              MOSCOW, Mar 20 - Prime. The Cypriot delegation brought to Moscow proposals for exchange of shares in banks and deposits of the island for urgent financial assistance, ignoring the open dissatisfaction of the European Union by the decision of the country's parliament not to introduce a tax on bank deposits and new contacts with Russia. Russian companies and banks are analyzing the situation in Cyprus, while experts are already predicting a massive withdrawal of funds from the island nation to other jurisdictions.

              link
              The battle for Leviathan continues and Russia is not the last player here.

              Everyone shouted in 2008 that Putin was pulling out the banks and the debts of the oligarchs at the expense of the people, now Cyprus showed once again that he was right, otherwise the banks would have paid the deposits of citizens, and these are our pensions and salaries on Sberbank cards, excitements, galloping inflation and default, as in 1998 year.
              For some reason, no one thinks about it and does not want to know.
          2. 0
            21 March 2013 10: 53
            Yes, this is currently not only seen by one who does not want to see. And the ChKists, unfortunately, too.
        2. S_mirnov
          -9
          20 March 2013 13: 06
          "Who should I write to? Where? Request for the application of the" highest measure of social protection "?" - there is a group of comrades who have been struggling with this for a long time, not specifically with Gudkov, of course.
          http://www.otvechayka.org/
        3. Kaa
          +2
          20 March 2013 23: 53
          Quote: Igarr
          and they will only be withdrawn from the Duma?
          Deprived of Depupatian immunity? Or why? (

          In Ukraine, this is usually the first step before the "hard landing" of the inviolable deputies ... And what about you? negative
          1. +2
            21 March 2013 03: 33
            Quote: Kaa
            the first step before the "hard landing" of the inviolable deputies ... What about you?

            And in connection with the transfer to another job, it’s not in the government so in NGOs am
        4. 0
          22 March 2013 14: 55
          Well, they ate and drank accounts, and we opened them for our hard-earned money still in prison, or maybe better than all of these so-called. "Two m.u.d.a.k.a.m.", to collect and on the highway "M56 Kolyma" or whatever it is called, and all these Ponomarevs and Sobchaks, and let them restore it, repair it, let them make themselves there are posters, banners and mining, and we will look on TV and wonder, oh well, how cold it is there
      3. +2
        20 March 2013 12: 44
        S_mirnov

        I agree with all the words except the last two "tends to zero!" Observing with my own eyes how the open mockery of the State Duma over the entire country is reflected in people's lives, zero is a significantly overestimated estimate.
      4. djon3volta
        -1
        20 March 2013 13: 43
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Therefore, only the complete dissolution of this parody of the State Duma can really change something.

        marsh slogans, right?
        1. +1
          20 March 2013 14: 03
          Quote: djon3volta
          Therefore, only the complete dissolution of this parody of the State Duma can really change something.
          swamp slogans

          Why is this a fright?
          Or, in your opinion, it’s better to spend 8,5 billion a year on d.o.s.a.p.o.s., which the hell knows what laws are being passed.
          8,5 billion is 9 Su-34 fighter-bombers. Count in your leisure time how many squadrons these faces have eaten.
          1. djon3volta
            +5
            20 March 2013 14: 34
            Quote: baltika-18
            Why is this a fright?

            and at what rallies did you still hear such calls and slogans? except in the swamp and Sahorovsky ones you haven’t heard anywhere. Besides the hamsters and they will pile up nobody shouts. Or shouts? If you shout then tell the facts who still need to disperse the Duma.
            1. +9
              20 March 2013 14: 59
              Quote: djon3volta
              at which rallies have you heard such calls and slogans

              I have my own meeting, Zhenya. When I see these faces, knowing that they really don't give a damn about me and everyone in general, then I have one slogan: “They should be collected and for the winter to our state farm for a salary of 8000 rubles. "I would have looked after that what laws they will pass.
              DARMA-eaters .... ON THE NECK OF THE PEOPLE ......
              1. DYMITRY
                +6
                20 March 2013 15: 44
                Quote: baltika-18
                DARMA-eaters .... ON THE NECK OF THE PEOPLE ......

                Nikolay, I generally agree with you. But only on condition that the thought is dispersed, and the new one should not be chosen at all. Lawmaking, like any other business, should be handled by professionals. And not those who have more money and PR technologists are better.
                1. -4
                  20 March 2013 15: 51
                  Quote: DYMITRY
                  must be done by professionals

                  And who are the professionals? And Putin, into professional tsars, and then his daughters into professional tsars .................. angry

                  Etozh need Dimitri as you do not respect yourself !!!! Do you need shepherds?
                  1. +2
                    20 March 2013 16: 51
                    Quote: kostella85
                    And Putin, into professional kings,

                    Not about him yet, this is the first.
                    There is an experience in the analysis of flights with kings in our country. Ipatiev House can be specially built so that we remember that we need to work for the good of the people. This is the second. hi
                2. +2
                  20 March 2013 16: 46
                  Quote: DYMITRY
                  But only on condition that the thought is dispersed, and the new one should not be chosen at all.

                  So I, Dmitry, about the same thing.
                  1. -1
                    20 March 2013 16: 54
                    Quote: baltika-18
                    So I, Dmitry, about the same thing.


                    So who are the professional lawmakers?
                    1. DYMITRY
                      +5
                      20 March 2013 18: 36
                      Quote: kostella85

                      So who are the professional lawmakers?

                      These are people who were specially trained for this. For example, on the basis of the Academy of Public Administration. Talking birds already got it. Sense from them with a gulkin nose.
                      Are you going to go to the dentist who was elected by universal secret ballot? Especially considering that he is a tower crane driver by training, but for some reason decided that he could heal his teeth?
                      Probably not, then why do you advocate that the talkers decide how the country develops further?
                      1. 0
                        20 March 2013 19: 41
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        These are people who were specially trained for this. For example, on the basis of the Academy of Public Administration.


                        Whose point of view will these professionals defend?
                        In economics, as in politics, there are many scenarios and development strategies.

                        Who will set the general vector for which legislation should be created? President-elect or "leader" who seized power
                        or God's chosen emperor?
                      2. -1
                        20 March 2013 19: 51
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        These are people who were specially trained for this.

                        Will you teach? The committees in the Duma are just consistently qualified ....
                      3. -1
                        20 March 2013 19: 53
                        Sorry for the spelling - the keyboard is broken smile
                      4. DYMITRY
                        0
                        21 March 2013 08: 11
                        Quote: kostella85
                        Who will set the general vector for which legislation should be created? President-elect or "leader" who seized power
                        or God's chosen emperor?

                        In principle, the second and third options will suit me. It couldn't be worse than the chosen clown on the throne. Suffice it to recall the alcoholic wrestling. Of the "leaders" and emperors, the marriage rate is much lower. If you take the USSR, then you can write two people into marriage: an ass-headed maize and a marked Juda. If the empire's percentage of "enemies" on the throne is even less, Alexander 1 and Nikolai Tryapkin. But in the elected presidents, the percentage of "marriage" is maximum, at least 1/3 - EBN, and even with Aiphone, everything is not clear, if some kind of very clever game, or really a foe.
                        Quote: kostella85
                        Will you teach? The committees in the Duma are just consistently qualified ....

                        The committees in the Duma consist of the elect, the lawmaker profession is not taught at any university. No institution of vocational education has arisen with the wave of a magic wand. It must be created.
                        PS If you want to continue the discussion in normal mode, please refrain from rudeness and inappropriate BREACH.
                      5. 0
                        21 March 2013 14: 29
                        If, with something touched, then I apologize - not from evil !!! hi
              2. +1
                20 March 2013 15: 46
                Quote: baltika-18
                When I see these faces, knowing that they don’t give a damn about me and generally everyone,

                They don’t give a damn. They need to crush us, like harmful insects. I do not perceive their decisions differently.
                Quote: baltika-18
                PHARMACIES .... ON THE NECK OF THE PEOPLE ....

                But I completely agree with this.
              3. -1
                20 March 2013 22: 05
                Quote: baltika-18
                my meeting, internal. When I see these faces, knowing that they really do not care about me and everyone in general, then I have one slogan: "

                ... to hang the Adam's apple on hooks and ask: "What are you doing here for twenty years in the Duma that the country is still in shit?"
              4. 0
                21 March 2013 15: 17
                In, in! Let them meet with herdsmen in cows. Cows will chew and understand everything, only be silent. laughing
            2. S_mirnov
              -5
              20 March 2013 20: 20
              And here, except for you, nobody seems to be screaming, the rest are talking. But besides bulk, for example: Mukhin and AVN, Boris Mironov, and in general do I see bipolar?
            3. vyatom
              0
              22 March 2013 12: 38
              Quote: djon3volta
              and at what rallies did you still hear such calls and slogans? except in the swamp and Sahorovsky ones you haven’t heard anywhere. Besides the hamsters and they will pile up nobody shouts. Or shouts? If you shout then tell the facts who still need to disperse the Duma.

              Do not fool around and do not write nonsense.
        2. S_mirnov
          0
          20 March 2013 20: 18
          "Swamp slogans, isn't it" - and I do not completely reject the talkative slogans and I think that there were many normal people there. Only now the organizing committee consisted of freaks, therefore normal people were not allowed to the podium.
      5. 0
        21 March 2013 10: 42
        I completely agree with you, comrade. This full-time mold on the body of the people at one time was clearly and briefly called "ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE" and methods were applied to them quickly and efficiently. It's a pity that STALINS are born once every several centuries. more newspapers ...
      6. 0
        22 March 2013 10: 51
        Direct popular vote should determine the salary of deputies soldier
    2. Cadet787
      +5
      20 March 2013 12: 27
      What can I say, she is a bastard and a bastard, just as she gets into the State. dumu, then everything is not all right in our "kingdom"?
    3. +16
      20 March 2013 12: 28
      just thanks to the same honk, I understand that the more our president is in the west, the better for the people .... historical is a fact ...
      1. djon3volta
        +4
        20 March 2013 13: 48
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        the more in the west of our president hut, the better it is for the people

        vsemennotag! I advise you to watch the French documentary film "Putin's System" filmed back in 2007.
        The film "Putin's System" was the most scandalous at the Amsterdam documentary festival, the film was awarded many awards.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_wI-WH36rQ

        in the film, and Yavlinsky, Kasparov, Milov, or rather the entire swamp shushera had been against Putin for a long time.
        1. +1
          20 March 2013 16: 54
          Quote: djon3volta
          I advise you to watch the French documentary film "Putin's System" filmed back in 2007

          Well, Zhenya, you advised. We know this tea system more than half the custodians.
          Not the first year we live tea .... in the system.
        2. +4
          21 March 2013 08: 59
          The place for the festival was chosen well - the country is good, but the pid ... s there, above the roof ...
        3. vyatom
          0
          22 March 2013 13: 26
          Quote: djon3volta
          in the film, and Yavlinsky, Kasparov, Milov, or rather the entire swamp shushera had been against Putin for a long time.

          The Olympics, the summit on the Russian island, the stolen billions under it. Don't you have to talk about it? The stadium in St. Petersburg, which we still cannot finish building, and which is already more expensive than all the stadiums built in Japan for the World Cup.
      2. 0
        21 March 2013 15: 25
        Yes, it is a fact! Yes
    4. Explore
      +12
      20 March 2013 13: 57
      You will laugh, but 90% of Echo of Moscow listeners consider the Gudkovs to be national heroes, and 70% believe that one of them should take the place of the leader of A Just Russia.

      Polls Echo of Moscow.
      It would be funny if it were not so sad. The survey involved more than 10 thousand people.
      1. djon3volta
        +12
        20 March 2013 14: 40
        Quote: Explorar
        The survey involved more than 10 thousand people.

        yes even a million let them take the poll. more than 100 thousand, even in REALITY they won’t be typed. I’ll remind you once again - 143 million live in Russia, 107 million have the right to vote. And it’s up to 10-20 thousand trololo keyboards to decide for the whole of Russia.
      2. Grishka100watt
        +8
        20 March 2013 15: 01
        Yes, I hardly believe in their polls like that ...
      3. +6
        20 March 2013 16: 36
        I thought that this "echo" died out a long time ago ... No ... and even continues to impose something on people. Is it really not clear for whom and for whose funds ECHO is still puffed up ...
        For me personally - "on the same board" are all sorts of "echoes", Navalny, Gudkov, Kasparov, all these SHOWs with kitchen programs, as well as the Kirkorovs and Galkins. We can say that almost all TV channels lack CULTURE, MORALITY, PATRIOTISM and elementary ORALITY.
        The goal of the media at present is to corrupt, fool, and propagate traitors.
        So you will wonder WHO is listening to these "ECHI" ...
        And the mentioned 90 and 70% - the report for the spent "green" ...
      4. +1
        21 March 2013 15: 31
        Listen to the echo in the mountains or in the forest, so you will go in the wrong direction. So is it worth believing "Echo of Moscow", whoever believes him will always wander. hi
    5. Che
      Che
      +6
      20 March 2013 14: 56
      Quote: baltika-18
      Gudkov in flight, a joyful fact ......
      Two mu.d.a.p.a.m. and in the Duma will be less ....... Maybe .....


      To the count of these traitors or let them go to their masters.
      1. +4
        20 March 2013 17: 35
        Che, something like that. wassat
        1. YuDDP
          +2
          21 March 2013 23: 24
          Was at the Museum of Torture in San Marino. A terrible feeling. Until now, before my eyes, a wooden pyramid blackened with blood, on which they planted, as if on a stake, but not through and through.
          Somehow, the local shouts began to depress me: "On the stake! Shoot! Shoot them with a rocket!"
          It's not about white or red. It's about commenting. Came across this site, became interested. It seemed that the contingent of inhabitants is close in age, status and mentality. It turned out not, for the most part.
          So, thoughts out loud ...
          1. Che
            Che
            0
            22 March 2013 08: 45
            YuDDP

            From impotent rage is how to deal with the fifth column? Depressing the current state of things.
      2. +3
        21 March 2013 11: 13
        Quote: Che
        To the count of these traitors or let them go to their masters.

        Going to Miami ?! well, no ... In Magadan, the climate is more suitable, I think.
        Shouldn't a people's deputy be a patriot? Already someone, and people's deputies are obliged to be patriots according to their duty, outlook and conscience, otherwise what are they doing there?
        And since such a Buzzer got there, then I consider only the first option to be fair. The second is completely inadequate.

        It is necessary to conduct an exemplary case, with wide media coverage, broadcast on TV from the courtroom .... So that every merchant of the Motherland knows - it’s great! Freebie has ended! or disappear into your Miami podobru-pozdorovu before you tackled, or remember that the homeland is Russia!

        Lord, how much scum divorced !!! ... What did he, ccyke, lack in life? not enough money?!
        Here's who to plant, and not retired colonels for attempting a coup with crossbows.
    6. +6
      20 March 2013 15: 21
      Quote: baltika-18
      Two mu.d.a.p.a.m. and in the Duma will be less ....... Maybe .....

      Another would be to remove four and a half hundreds from there and it would be just right. And at the same time to annul the Federation Council. Our "lawmakers" are now busy only with the size of fines, and, moreover, commensurate only with their own salaries.
    7. Hunghuz
      +1
      20 March 2013 17: 07
      hi All the patriotism of the Chekists of Shlomov goes to the HUD ......... ??? if not worse?
    8. NAPOLEON
      +2
      20 March 2013 17: 09
      I wonder why there is no information on the spring and senator with dual citizenship on the site because they are the right people to whom to serve, unlike the honkers who deviated from the party course, we will forgive and the apartment and citizenship of the liens with amermkos were not found. And as for the wise .... ak in the Duma, the main thing is not to question the authority of our government and you can be at least three times wise .... com.
      1. +2
        20 March 2013 17: 57
        Quote: NAPOLEON
        I wonder why the site does not have information about spring and senator with dual citizenship
        Here you are and publish about these little reverend persons! And we honor and discuss! hi
    9. 0
      21 March 2013 10: 31
      It's not just that you forget, they give them the opportunity to convey their views to a simple listener and hang out on the box, and among other things, not only them, Shoots have sprouted, someone covers them gives you the opportunity to go on air, And not one such odious look at some people whose last name is they also don’t conceal their relationship to the hearing, and most importantly, there are also many of them in state structures
    10. -1
      21 March 2013 11: 02
      Quote: baltika-18
      Gudkov in flight, a joyful fact ......
      Two mu.d.a.p.a.m. and in the Duma will be less ....... Maybe .....

      Not joyful, but terrible.

      Even if State Duma deputies such, then what about the other bureaucratic apparatus ?!

      Not the 37th year, of course - which is a pity! - but this most resonant fact should be worked out to the fullest. It is imperative to conduct an investigation of how the people's deputy turned out at such a meeting, to examine the whole circle of contacts of Gudkov himself, as well as his relatives and assistants. Check what he was doing in the Duma, and to which state secrets as a deputy he had access, and therefore what information the CIA could drain. At the same time, check the sources of their income and property owned by the family.

      The result of the investigation should be a deprivation of the mandate at a minimum.
      If a crime is discovered under Article 58 - high treason (and I think if counterintelligence is allowed to work 100%, it will not be difficult), then confiscation, and then "to the fullest extent of the court."
      I even think that such a blatant case is necessary lift moratorium on death penalty.

      China sneezes at all sorts of groans of "humanists" - and no one ate it for that? But how the country has blossomed over the past 10-15 years! whoever has not been to China yet simply does not understand this ... On the other hand, the "inventors of democracy" themselves, bringing its light to the whole world on the wings of their UAVs and bombers, the USA themselves did not even think of abandoning the death penalty.
      They only forced us so that their residents and our traitors were calmer, "they will not shoot! If I fall asleep, I’ll sit for a few years at most, and then wee-ee! The endos will pull it out!"

      I believe maintaining a moratorium is a recognition of its colonial dependence!
  2. -7
    20 March 2013 11: 54
    Gudkov, the youngest, although the deputy, young and stupid, dad was more cunning, took the opportunity to protest, it turned out to be a betrayal, but how to compare this betrayal with the betrayal of Chubais, Serdyukov and other offshore audiences. I think that after weighing everything, you can forgive childishness, which did not have big consequences compared to the rest. Young isho
    1. +6
      20 March 2013 12: 08
      Are you a follower of Christ? Hit on the right, substitute the left. But in Russian it sounds a little differently - they spat in our face, but should we wipe ourselves off?
    2. djon3volta
      +7
      20 March 2013 12: 16
      Quote: valokordin
      I think that by weighing everything you can forgive childishness

      Do you suggest tolerance? Chubais and Serdyukov with them, and so everything is clear.
      Gudkov, before leaving for the United States, first visited the embassy at McFaul, what did he do there, do you think? Have you ever seen that, for example, deputies from EP or LDPR run to the American embassy, ​​or take pictures with McCain and all sorts of other US senators?
      1. redwolf_13
        0
        20 March 2013 16: 31
        And why do they have their accounts, real estate children there. They live there and here they are on a business trip. teach us patriotism. The chief screamed Zheleznyak Chet was quickly blown away when he was reminded of 2 daughters in the USA. And the words from the tweeter of one of them at the expense of "zasrochnaya Russia".
    3. +1
      20 March 2013 16: 29
      Quote: valokordin
      Gudkov, the youngest, although the deputy, young and stupid, dad was more cunning, took the opportunity to protest, it turned out to be a betrayal, but how to compare this betrayal with the betrayal of Chubais, Serdyukov and other offshore audiences. I think that after weighing everything, you can forgive childishness, which did not have big consequences compared to the rest. Young isho

      Come on, don’t play up. "Childishness" ... They all know perfectly well, they all understand perfectly well. They want to take over power, by any means. Even with the help of enemies and ill-wishers of Russia. The marshes do not succeed in honest ways, it remains to suck at the State Department, and discrediting the Russian state power at all levels. And since Putin is like a bone in the throat of the West (they should bring Yeltsin-drunk-2 to power), then the goals of the West and the bogies completely coincide. Hence, grants, and trips to the embassies, and trains abroad with sworn prayers ... Well, in general, liberals, they are liberals ...
    4. +3
      20 March 2013 17: 58
      Quote: valokordin
      you can forgive childishness,
      Childish flowers to tear from a flower bed! And this is meanness! hi
  3. SSR
    +3
    20 March 2013 11: 54
    And they are already playing: Please help in the fight against corruption from this series. They waited.

    From the news.
    The investigation accuses Vasiliev of continuing unlawful actions
    For his part, the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense Vasilieva objects to the extension of her house arrest and pleads not guilty.

    It’s as if people are specially tested for strength .... it's tin just.
  4. Vanek
    +26
    20 March 2013 11: 54
    The youngest slept ........ slept .....
    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
      0
      21 March 2013 19: 49
      Quote: Vanek
      The youngest slept ........ slept .....

      It is a pity that there is no way to bark at this decayed carcass.
  5. +30
    20 March 2013 11: 54
    When I hear about this dog, non-dog, Caspary, and hooter rifle, I involuntarily clench my fists. This is how much scum has grown on our chernozems! angry
    1. +14
      20 March 2013 12: 41
      No matter how much Judah runs around the world, they will still find a suitable branch on a tree and a rope. Sooner or later they will have to pay for their spiritual cheapness. They do not like traitors to the interests of their homeland, they only temporarily use them, and then they wipe their feet on them. Examples in the history of a lot.
      1. DYMITRY
        +5
        20 March 2013 14: 56
        Quote: alexneg
        No matter how many Judas run around the world

        The ice ax is our everything !!!
        1. +1
          21 March 2013 03: 35
          Quote: DYMITRY
          The ice ax is our everything !!!

          The little head paw is pretty cute too wassat
  6. +5
    20 March 2013 11: 57
    Such freaks must be expelled from the country, and not wait for them to flee to
    England, posing as "political outcasts", and are feeding the Western media.
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 12: 21
      This replenishment is not only ideological (for the media), but also quite material - they are not leaving mother Russia with empty pockets.
  7. +7
    20 March 2013 11: 59
    The opinion of members of the forum is interesting, but the composition of the Duma as a whole satisfies people who think and support the country ... This composition does not personally satisfy me. And the number of sent Cossacks is simply alarming
    1. -2
      20 March 2013 12: 12
      And what specifically does this composition of the Duma not suit you specifically? For example, I am satisfied - the number of laws harmful to Russia is minimal (compared with previous convocations) and continues to decrease. And this is the main work of the Duma - to write laws for the good of Russia!
      1. +11
        20 March 2013 12: 23
        Does it suit you? Well done! Watch the news on the first channel and swallow the noodles further! Who did this - http://topwar.ru/25022-rossiya-norvegiya-neft-medvedev.html ??? Medvedev introduced the bill, the State Duma approved it, and before the holidays, to spend without too much hype. What normal law have they recently adopted? They wanted to deprive them of their benefits - they didn’t miss them, they wanted to remove the emergency lights - they didn’t miss them. Yes, and much more that we are not told. each diplomat works there solely for his own personal interests, smuggles in laws that will be useful specifically to his business, and put them on Russia
        1. +9
          20 March 2013 13: 53
          And now they are still shouting that the money content (you can’t call it a salary - they didn’t earn it) is small. For a long time, damn it, did not raise.
      2. 0
        20 March 2013 15: 06
        Quote: Homo
        For example, it suits me - the number of laws that harm Russia is minimal

        Homo ......... sapiens, non-sapiens I don’t know
        Even the law on the WTO is enough for me to draw a conclusion about the Duma.
        And you harm ....... benefit
        List useful laws, but I didn’t find one (I don’t need to talk about Dima Yakovlev).
  8. +9
    20 March 2013 12: 05
    People without a homeland, without honor, without conscience.
    Are there people?
  9. +3
    20 March 2013 12: 16
    In the US, people like the Gudkovs and the like would be declared traitors and go to jail, Putin is too soft to such "oppositionists", if the US sponsors them, then they are promoting US policy - today's words of the American Congressman during the Bush era.
  10. Ali Baba
    -3
    20 March 2013 12: 17
    Well, the honkers, because someone elected, they didn’t fall from the sky ... it turns out that such people's representatives are not honkers and the guards are not otherwise wink
    1. +3
      20 March 2013 12: 49
      Hi Crater at Enceladus.
      What can I say - we elected.
      One thing pleases, I did not vote for Righteous Russians. I'm afraid of beards.
      ...
      I would suggest - how to get rid of such, if you know.
      For this pretzel of Navalny - the same ... there is no hope.
      ..
      It’s good that now they are not the Gudyars, but the Goodbyes.
      1. +1
        20 March 2013 13: 11
        Who specifically elected them? Did you check the box next to their last names?
        1. +1
          20 March 2013 13: 27
          I repeat .... ". I did not vote for SpravedRossov."
          Although not American, I voted for Zhirinovsky.
          Well, I really want to go to the Indian Ocean. Once again.
          And after his shouts yesterday, I don’t know now who to vote for.
          On the other hand, if everything is "linden" - then what's the difference?
          I’ll go to the site otvetayka .. I'll spit poison.
          1. DeerIvanovich
            +1
            20 March 2013 13: 56
            vote for deer winked we’ll be so lazy laughing

            Our election slogans:

            Give deerism to the masses !!! lol

            Reindeer ourselves and deer all !!! feel

            Laziness is a terrible force, it’s hard to fight with it !!! soldier
          2. +2
            20 March 2013 14: 52
            I always voted for the Liberal Democratic Party, but when I heard in November from Zhirik (cit.): "... all-village s, how can you not be stupid? You go out into the street - and there is dirt ........ melancholy .... .., you go home drinking vodka! And they get duller .................... and in the Urals the magnetic field ........... there is generally only Yeltsin remember !!!! ........... "

            So think after that for whom to vote ..................
            1. Ali Baba
              +2
              20 March 2013 15: 00
              Quote: kostella85
              So think after that for whom to vote ..................

              And didn’t you think why it happened so that there wasn’t anything to choose from and everything was an alternative, in principle, only to EdRO? I did not gloat this, I asked the question, but simply infa for thought, as Iulian Semenov once wrote ...
              1. -1
                20 March 2013 15: 19
                Quote: Ali Baba
                And didn’t you think why it happened so that there wasn’t anything to choose from and everything was an alternative, in principle, only to EdRO?

                I thought about it, only there were no alternatives, or do you propose not to go to the polls, or maybe a coup ...........?
              2. +1
                20 March 2013 15: 37
                Quote: Ali Baba
                infa for thought

                Ha
                In a biology class, they showed schoolchildren how nicotine and alcohol negatively affect earthworms.
                The teacher then asked _ Children, what are your findings? The smartest _Mar Ivanna needs to drink and smoke so that worms do not start in you !!!
                Not a joke from life!
                wink
            2. +2
              20 March 2013 15: 31
              Quote: kostella85
              hearing in November from Zhirik

              Well, Wolfovich ... It’s directly said about him. _ For the sake of a red word, neither mother nor father will regret it!
              1. +1
                20 March 2013 15: 37
                Quote: Cynic
                Well, Wolfovich ... It’s directly said about him. _ For the sake of a red word, neither mother nor father will regret it!

                Zhirik generally began to talk recently: either same-sex marriages must be legalized, then officials and deputies must be canceled, and at the vote in all endeavors he supports edrosov !!!!
                1. vyatom
                  0
                  22 March 2013 13: 31
                  Quote: kostella85
                  Zhirik generally began to talk recently: either same-sex marriages must be legalized, then officials and deputies must be canceled, and at the vote in all endeavors he supports edrosov !!!!

                  Zhirik is a long-worked material. He should go to the garbage dump of history.
            3. 0
              21 March 2013 12: 16
              So think after that for whom to vote ..................


              In connection with the cancellation of the clause "Against all", which did not show itself in any way during the election race and was the last number in the ballots, the political party "All the Goats" received, unexpectedly for analysts, 100% of the votes.
          3. vyatom
            0
            22 March 2013 13: 30
            Quote: Igarr
            Well, I really want to go to the Indian Ocean. Once again.

            Well, here you are in boots and we’ll send you there. We give a saber and a three-ruler. And let's see what the Muslims will do to you.
      2. Ali Baba
        +1
        20 March 2013 14: 23
        Igarru ....

        Good, kindly, the fellow countryman still found out about my extraterrestrial saturian secret :))))))
        What can I advise ... you bother too much with them and almonds, although I understand your elites are tied up in the West and they keep a lot of money there (out of Cyprus what kind of stink went already at the level of GDP) and they can’t always crack like that to all the dissidents, but since the elites have chosen such a path, let their side effects take a full spoon ... we are all worthy of our elites no more no less.
        1. +1
          20 March 2013 19: 15
          Here I agree to all 100 - ".. the elites have chosen this path, let them slurp a full spoonful of its side effects ..."
          But about dignity ..... as they say - the hand does not flinch. But who will give something?
          ...
          Worse, that simple people who are "salt of the earth" - because their earth is soaked in salty sweat - are not able to influence these monsters in any way.
          "The order of the commander is the law for subordinates" - everything is correct.
          But, making a decision, in the Navy, at least - always began with a survey - junior command staff.
          For the people - the ISS is a family. These are work collectives.
          and to us ... instead of this .. advertised democracy - they stuck elections - and trudge ... from their own cunning. With webcams at the posts.
          ...
          Lan ... how much the rope does not curl, and God marks the huck.
    2. ABV
      0
      20 March 2013 16: 21
      no one elected them, they went through the lists, and even pretended to be cool during the elections, then either the cover fell off, or the true face crept out ...
  11. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    -12
    20 March 2013 12: 18
    As far as I know, Gudkov, a senior KGB officer, made a good career in the Soviet era, doesn’t like slime-eaters, and the Most Serene cannot live without them, that’s spread rot of his former comrades-in-arms, this is not surprising for a person with the Napoleon complex, by the way, there are many people among today's Vovin subordinates who were taller than him in Soviet times in the KGB structures .... They could not climb up, and the Most Serene was able to get into ........ without soap ........
    1. +5
      20 March 2013 12: 25
      Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
      ... Gudkov, a senior KGB officer, made a good career in Soviet times, doesn’t like lycophants, and the Most Serene cannot live without them, that’s spread rot of his former comrades-in-arms, for a person with a complex ...

      That is, Putin is to blame for the fact that this is shit .... did I become such a couple?
      1. +3
        20 March 2013 14: 55
        Quote: NOBODY BUT US
        Gudkov KGB senior officer


        "KGB officer" is not synonymous with the words "decent" and "honest"
        1. Gazprom
          -5
          20 March 2013 14: 58
          Quote: kostella85
          "KGB officer" is not synonymous with the words "decent" and "honest"

          golden words, and examples are enough, well, you understand me ....
    2. ABV
      +4
      20 March 2013 16: 30
      laughing kapets! Well for the hatred is such a light? you probably can’t even eat? what did he offend you? I didn’t take me to my depot, borrowed money? il is not beautiful, but not static?
  12. +2
    20 March 2013 12: 23
    Nothing, slowly all the reptiles will be etched.
    1. +5
      20 March 2013 12: 25
      Do you personally poison? do not tell me how?
  13. +7
    20 March 2013 12: 24
    Quote: smel
    The opinion of members of the forum is interesting, and the composition of the Duma as a whole satisfies people who think and support the country ...

    The Duma should consist of specific deputies elected both from party lists and from single-mandate constituencies ...
    But to ban the rotation of deputies in the Duma, to the parties, and to allow single-mandate members to join the coalition once with the party to the program of which he declared solidarity ...
    A single-mandate should not have the right to rush through the Duma quarters with two, three, four, in short with many manda (ta) mi ... feel
    Cancel parliamentary immunity !!! am
    Stop hiding the State Department’s defenders from the people!

    But today there is a lot of criticism with the aim of "overwhelming" the work of the Duma, to achieve its dissolution ... This must not be allowed! Let them finalize until new elections.
    Otherwise, the next goal will be the following institutions of power.
    Answer yourself - who benefits from this or on hand?
    And what programs, gaining momentum, will be the first to be frozen or at least slowed down?
    Who will benefit from this globally?

    That ...
    1. 0
      20 March 2013 15: 00
      I also think - put 5 years to let them work! Whatever the composition of the Duma, there will always be dissatisfied, do not hold the same elections six months !!!

      PS The work of the current Duma is also not very satisfied, they are engaged in any x ...... to her, instead of DISCUSSING THE NEEDED laws !!!
  14. fenix57
    +12
    20 March 2013 12: 25
    ".... betraying your Motherland is also a profession ....", followed by another one (someone from the SR), there are so many of them ..... And all the silvermen. Everyone cares for the pension and for the People (adopted in 3rd reading "On Overhaul" is an incomplete title, but it is accepted). But they have no time to SHARE their ... hi Sorry, the most harmless ...
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 16: 53
      Canaries and Canaries recalls ...
    2. vyatom
      0
      22 March 2013 13: 33
      Quote: fenix57
      ".... betraying your Motherland is also a profession ....", followed by another one (someone from the SR), there are so many of them ..... And all the silvermen. Everyone cares for the pension and for the People (adopted in 3rd reading "On Overhaul" is an incomplete title, but it is accepted). But they have no time to SHARE their ... hi Sorry, the most harmless ...

      Sleek s.a.a. In the photo is the deputy. Fattened in the best restaurants.
  15. ed65b
    +5
    20 March 2013 12: 26
    The new boyarschina is growing in the Federation Council and the Duma by inheritance, the places will soon be transferred. Zhirik with his son, Beeps. Son in the Duma mom in the Federation Council. They need beards to grow beaver hats and sheepskin coats. The hooter the younger hustle and bustle specifically creates in the hope that he, like Belykh, will be imprisoned on the estate. And there, and daddy will settle down. And so fly out of the Duma and do not notice it. Wait for the banquet to continue. in the course of a beep from his tanker))).
  16. Gorchakov
    +2
    20 March 2013 12: 28
    I absolutely agree with the author that it is high time for the state to take decisive action and cleanse our Motherland of foreign intelligence agents and traitors of its country .... I think that this should have been done yesterday ....
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 13: 09
      To do this, you will have to put absolutely all officials from power! From clerks to administrations to ...
  17. optimist
    +3
    20 March 2013 12: 29
    Were already tired of these hysterical articles! Instead of promoting small ch.m.o.shnikov such as gudkovykh, "aftor" would be better off telling about whose interests are supported by our "swingers" VVP with a lady. When in Cyprus they decided to "throw" our Abramovichs and Deripasoks, what a howl they raised! How: the thieves' friends were robbed !!!
    1. +2
      20 March 2013 13: 21
      Who's stopping you from publishing an article you want? this article is about honkers, not gdp and lady.
      Speaking of Cyprus: do the Abramovichs and Deripaska stupidly keep money in the bank? And live on interest chtol?
      1. +1
        20 March 2013 15: 09
        Quote: bddrus
        Speaking of Cyprus: do the Abramovichs and Deripaska stupidly keep money in the bank? And live on interest chtol?

        In Cyprus, large enterprises are "registered": NorNickel, NLMK, MMK, UralKaliy, MetalloInvest, .................... in general, all ......... ....
        1. 0
          20 March 2013 17: 12
          and how do you link this with bank deposits?
    2. +4
      20 March 2013 14: 27
      there not only Abramovich and Deripaska got stuck, everyone got stuck there, who was "admitted" to the budget, starting from ministers, deputies and the presidential administration, ending with inspectors of the Federal Tax Service. Is it possible to leave this fraternity without "the last penny"? That's just how they are strenuously silent, where did the Cypriot money go !!
      But it is not difficult to compare several facts. When Greece, on the sly from the EU, scored loans from the Americans, she was threatened with a finger and nothing more. When it came time to pay off dollar loans, as luck would have it, the euro fell below the floor. Greece was saved, among other things, by bending over the Cypriot banks to buy Greek bonds. Add here that the Cyprus economy = 0,00, and all bank deposits are interest-bearing, which means that all the money was over the hill. In recent years, all more or less profitable assets (and there are very few of them left) were redistributed in favor of the right guys from among the "behind the scenes", and the unprofitable ones were offered for redemption on a "voluntary basis" to POWERFUL states like Cyprus (especially knowing whose money is there) ... So we are waiting for today's decision on how the budget will once again be cut. I would not be surprised if I agreed to credit the required amount to the correspondent account even without a loan agreement, with a 20-25% rollback
      and the subsequent memory failure about this money. And 5-6 years will pass and everyone will forget, and if they remember, they will dig out Ignatiev and throw manure.
    3. 0
      21 March 2013 12: 22
      That's for sure ...
  18. 0
    20 March 2013 12: 34
    Take away the mandate of the deputy, deprive of citizenship and expel both from the country.
  19. +7
    20 March 2013 12: 40
    The article is not bad, only Gastomysl was not a posadnik, but he was a prince, he didn’t go to Rurik either, since in those days it was unthinkable for a grandfather to go to his grandson — Rurik was the son of Umila, daughter of Gastomysl, so Rurik had no special options was - disobeying his grandfather in state matters then meant complete contempt for everyone around him, since this is not his personal affairs. And if you also remember that my mother skinned the murderers of Rurik’s father alive, his upbringing must also be considered worthy hi
    1. Grishka100watt
      0
      20 March 2013 15: 12
      It will be necessary to study ...
  20. +2
    20 March 2013 12: 48
    I would very much like to see good, healthy material on the site about the conflict between Gusev + MK and Isaev + DG. How did the nits stir when the truth was told about them throughout the country.
  21. 0
    20 March 2013 12: 50
    If you carefully look at the actions of the so-called Gudkovs, then it seems like no logic can be traced ... because in the end they will fall in love with the minuses ... therefore we observe the manifestation of active stupidity, and the flag is in their hands.
  22. 0
    20 March 2013 12: 53
    It’s time already for this shaku of thieves and traitors to disperse everything from our thought
  23. 0
    20 March 2013 13: 06
    + Have come!
    It is clear that the activities of the FSB are not public and comments from it will follow only under certain conditions. Or maybe there is simply no political decision allowing the FSB to bare its "Sword" - then it must be "scrapped".
    And what is the assessment of this anti-state attack from the State Duma and the Prosecutor's Office? The ethics commission will study ............ which commission? Damn, betrayal is already called ethics! Or maybe they mixed up the commission?
  24. +2
    20 March 2013 13: 07
    The question immediately arises: who did these deputies choose? What younger, what senior! Why did they come to power?
    1. Grishka100watt
      +2
      20 March 2013 15: 10
      And they choose from those who go there, and they, damn it, often, as luck would have it ..... here they are !!!!
      A good kind honest man rarely goes there) Unfortunately. But, all the same, there are several)
  25. +1
    20 March 2013 13: 13
    Such govnyukov for treason should be sentenced to a tower. And, intelligence, here the author is entitled to all 100, it is necessary to increase tenfold. As they say, if you want peace, prepare for war.
  26. +5
    20 March 2013 13: 22
    Already only the presence of a son in the thought where dad sits - initially writes such in a crook, yes yes, Wolfovich also refers to you
  27. 0
    20 March 2013 13: 33
    Lynching of the people over agents of influence will help us.
  28. +3
    20 March 2013 13: 42
    It is understood that corruption. Where is she not? That's just how he (the younger hooter) imagines the fight against our corruption, and even with the help of the CIA? Nonsense! You have to start with yourself! In fact, for such antics - to call to account! ... Or maybe we ourselves can ask the State Department and the CIA how they deal with their citizens of this kind?
  29. amp
    amp
    +3
    20 March 2013 13: 45
    Introduce criminal liability for violation of the law on financing NPOs for employees of NPOs.
  30. +4
    20 March 2013 13: 47
    Papenkin son of a major. Not understanding and understanding nothing in life. Under this pulled by this very dad to himself.
    1. +2
      20 March 2013 16: 20
      And what's so surprising? .. An apple from an oak always falls close ...
  31. +3
    20 March 2013 13: 51
    in general, these are not jokes and creatures similar to honkers should be determined to the north (where there is no local population in the next few hundred kilometers, because you can’t spoil their life with this rot)
  32. +1
    20 March 2013 14: 08
    Creation dad Carlo more than once "surprised", did not want to study, greedy for money, poked his nose in the wrong place.
    Fair Russia is paved by the Kremlin, now it’s a native child! Swallowed.
  33. +1
    20 March 2013 14: 49
    And how will a certified psychologist and political scientist comment on the movement of the newly elected president towards the Kremlin along the deserted streets of Moscow?
    Is it a success or failure of the CIA?
    But I remembered the joyful faces of beeps, pechtievs, etc., at a banquet arranged on this occasion.
    What is pop - such is the parish.
    Overseas screaming about losing the info war, but they immediately pop the jokers back into their hands. Let’s play again, Misters, otherwise it’s so boring to live.
  34. +3
    20 March 2013 15: 09
    I would like to get an answer to one question. Why is Gudkov not attracted under the article - Treason to the Motherland (with a public call for the overthrow of the existing government)? And Kvachkova, for words (which the bulk of the people did not hear and did not publish the media) was sentenced to 13 years of strict? Where is the justice? I want to get an answer to the asked question. Sincerely.
    1. +2
      20 March 2013 16: 24
      It is necessary to keep order in order. First - Serdyukov (he is in line the very first !!!) with the company. And only then the rest of the dandruff and small things ...
    2. +2
      20 March 2013 17: 25
      "And who are the judges?" .... Continue?
    3. +1
      21 March 2013 12: 29
      Kvachkov is a combat officer, he didn’t steal loot, he didn’t lick assholes; he had great authority in the troops, i.e. it was really dangerous for mold. Result: laws were found right there to rot the SA winds in prison.
      1. 0
        21 March 2013 13: 25
        Quote: evgenm55
        Kvachkov is a combat officer, he didn’t steal loot, he didn’t lick assholes; he had great authority in the troops, i.e. it was really dangerous for mold. Result: laws were found right there to rot the SA winds in prison.

        He had to be friends with Kvachkov ...
  35. fenix57
    0
    20 March 2013 15: 13
    Quote: S_mirnov
    - the modern State Duma - a dunghill and

    All pieces from questions there are (your bunch ...), And ......... Yes there is none AND THERE IS NOTHING ...... PICTURE:: CRESIERA: .......
  36. 0
    20 March 2013 15: 14
    The author in his article not only posed questions about the Gudkovs, but also answered these questions with the words of the American parliamentarian from the US Democratic Party. “For ten years, NGOs in Russia, funded by foreign Funds, have been working,” he said. “If it were with us, their employees would already be in prison on the second day”. This is also about the Gudkovs. In general, it is necessary to start from the Head ... The fish rots from there.
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 12: 53
      Quote: Shkodnik65
      In general, you need to start from the Head ... The fish rotting rot


      That's just clean it from the tail!
  37. +1
    20 March 2013 15: 34
    Say what you want, but in the fight against this untouchable caste, with Russian bureaucrats-lawless people, all means are good! And what is it that people are worried that they will think about our bureaucrats in America?
    Where is the blow to the country's prestige? Gudkov that, he dusted his head with ash and publicly repented of the Gulag, Chechnya and other tales of liberoids?
    What is the threat from the United States to us? Do you really believe in the strength of the Orange Liberals or what? All these orange horror stories are from the virtual world, but our outrageous bureaucrats are just more than real! Our roads cost $ 17.5 million per km! (in Canada - 6.5mln) Serdyukov's Baba battalion is "languishing" in 13-room apartments! Thugs from the guardianship of children are taken away from their mothers, because the housing is bad and there is no money!
    In short, I'm here with Gudkov and this is no betrayal! Traitors in the Party of Rogues and Thieves are sitting. And here they make us suckers, frightening us with an orange threat.
    Do you even know that the former Minister of Culture, Shvydkoi is a homosexual ?!
    And you are Gudkov, Gudkov ....
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 03: 53
      Quote: Magadan

      Where is the blow to the country's prestige? ....

      Thanks to such "chosen people", the West "knows" what we need to do in our state.
      Such nits provide the instructive, mentoring tone of the West towards Russia.
  38. zavesa01
    +1
    20 March 2013 15: 55
    This is why they are to us to the north, the cartridge is much cheaper than travel.
    In the north, people will not break traditions easier and more honestly.
    9 gr. enough.
  39. +3
    20 March 2013 16: 09
    D. Gudkov is a political corpse.
    This trip can wave a political career. He was kicked out of the party. The mandate will also disappear soon.
    Really, either the dude is not friends with the head.
    Well, he needs to be sent to Khodorkovsky for permanent residence under Chita.
    And better, let him bring down to the boss Kasparov in the USA.
    1. 0
      20 March 2013 16: 55
      Mironov said that there’s nothing to lose Gudkov’s words, according to the regulations, he can be subjected to such punishment only for seditious speeches from the rostrum of the State Duma, but this wasn’t ... But he refused to surrender his mandate!
    2. 0
      20 March 2013 17: 16
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      it is necessary to send to Khodorkovsky for permanent residence under Chita.
      And better, let him bring down to the boss Kasparov in the USA.

      Which you, however, are soft ..... Scourge to them .....
  40. alex popov
    +3
    20 March 2013 16: 54
    Buoy with these beeps.
    The question is different. The author correctly said that in Russia there is now more than ever a demand for justice. And it is necessary not only to fight with an external enemy, but to seek justice within the country. and not in the media, but in reality. To begin with, bring at least resonant cases to thieving prosecutors, Serdyukovites, sleeping judges, assassins in uniform, Tsapkovschina and so on.
    Would you like an example: a guy was driving himself home from Chelyabinsk to Yekaterinburg, after a minor accident three days later, an administrative arrest (the judge decides not to see the arsenal, since he is already in a coma) gets home from the pre-trial detention center in the form of a corpse bruised, traces of handcuffs, broken his head ... According to the police, this is himself. fell ... The prosecutor's office, the Investigative Committee, the prosecutor general in the UD do not see any grounds for initiating UD (max. what was required for the recovery of the duty officer for refusing to provide assistance). and the court decided that the justice of the peace who ruled on 3 days. administrative arrest did it illegally, a three-day arrest for the dead canceled, replacing it with a fine of 500 rubles ..........
    These are the situations that are rocking the country better than beeps and other traitors ....
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 17: 06
      Quote: alex popov
      These are the situations that are rocking the country better than beeps and other traitors ....

      Alexander agrees, while Serdyukov, Smetanin,Makarovs, Vasiliev will not be convicted by law, they will not even take the Gudkov’s moral right !!!!
      1. alex popov
        +2
        20 March 2013 17: 36
        Quote: kostella85
        for the Gudkovs even have no moral right to take !!!!

        beeps in one row. as they say "... shades of der @ ma are different, but the aftertaste is the same ..."
        1. +2
          20 March 2013 17: 57
          Quote: alex popov
          beeps in one row. as they say "... shades of der @ ma are different, but the aftertaste is the same ..."

          I don’t argue, they simply select one of these ranks, they selectively select (sorry for taftology): mad pussy for 2 years was closed, and another fool (for dousing the icons with paint) -7 months, or the same crazy pussy in jail before the trial sat , and Vasilyev’s girlfriend at home ...............
          1. alex popov
            0
            20 March 2013 18: 49
            Yeah. abnormal skew.
  41. ABV
    +3
    20 March 2013 17: 10
    Quote:
    This young, glamorous deputy at the moment is unlikely to seriously interest any special services, he has not even reached the agent of influence ...
    I do not agree! Gorbach, too, was once young, but he was interested! Yes, and this interests! a State Duma deputy, ANYONE, cannot be interested in special services, and SUCH is even more interested .... but when he once played in the youth basketball team for the Russian national team together with Kirilenko .... that’s how life orders ... it's sad all this .
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 17: 20
      Quote: ABV
      and SUCH all the more interested.

      Which - such? If he is interested in them as a cute boy, I propose to immediately give him to the West. There will be a cavalier of a leaky spoon.
  42. +1
    20 March 2013 17: 12
    Russia is under siege, so as they say "according to the law of wartime"
  43. 0
    20 March 2013 17: 58
    G. Gudkov, D. Gudkov: “In the corner, even a hare beasts”

    http://svpressa.ru/online/article/65416/
  44. +3
    20 March 2013 18: 04
    As I. Stalin said, even before the revolution, the "Duma was a bloody creation"

    There is hardly anything useful in the gang of political prostitutes.
  45. Horde
    +2
    20 March 2013 18: 10
    There is a saying, "the enemy of my enemy, my friend" Gudkov apparently thought that the CIA could help the Russian people to overthrow Putin? Well, why would the CIA overthrow one of its most loyal rulers of influential states? For America, Putin is so good, Russian money is stored in America, the culture in Russia is already half American, Americanism on every corner is just getting sick, it has come to the point that even military aircraft and helicopters have become American gray. Gudkov thought that amers would help to overthrow Putin, but this is exactly the case when the exception DOES NOT confirm the rule and the ENEMY of the CIA will ALWAYS be the ENEMY of the Russian people, even if it renders some kind of service. Because all this is from the Evil One.
    Gudkov, on the other hand, is engaged in political games in the theater of the absurd, because they are all Putin, the CIA and the hooters on one side of the barricade. I DO NOT BELIEVE.
  46. +2
    20 March 2013 18: 37
    Yes, it is normal! Simply, Gudkov Sr. is not a scout at all, but an official from an intelligence office, and a younger one is a major boy.
    In life, they have not faced (especially the younger) unfair criticism "at the highest limits." This means that they have never been ordinary soldiers, operatives, officials and have neither experience nor "vaccine" against this.
    And, having gotten on the nose (perhaps unfairly), they run to complain to the enemy (rival) of their boss. Those. such a "psychological form of desertion."
    It is often observed in (see above-ordinary performers). But, this is 20-25 years old.
    Then they do not repeat it.
    And the Gudkovs are not frightened. One, you see, worked as a political officer or someone else, and the second never actually worked.
    Offended and ran to the enemy.
  47. +3
    20 March 2013 18: 52
    The big garbage is that the vast majority of 70 percent of respondents are ordinary people. They firmly believe that the main person in the country is the president. And since he was chosen, then he must solve all the problems in the country so that everything would be fine. And they, simple townsfolk, what can they do, they would have to eat something, so that the house would be to sleep, beer and circuses. If you look at social networks, then in general the hair stands on end, 98 percent of visitors there do not have their own opinions. Engaged in stupid copy-paste of any nonsense from the community. Content wildly stinks of oligophrenia. What will they do? You will ask many people and they answer:! And we live very well. Corruption is yes, yes, bad. But we live well !. The general debilitation of the population through Western media projects is prevailing.
  48. +2
    20 March 2013 19: 14
    As a representative of another state, I do not want to criticize your Duma, however, in my opinion, in the Duma, as in our BP, smart, trained people should be involved in lawmaking. I will explain what I mean
    Smart a person is able to see things as they are, analyze and compare facts, identify patterns and take into account and constantly process new data, and with a certain probability to predict the development of certain events.
    Savvy - able to quickly navigate in each specific situation and turn it to their advantage.
    Cunning - Able to temporarily disorient others, prevent them from understanding the true motives of behavior.

    A person can be cunning and quick-witted, but not smart at the same time. And even just stupid.

    And further...

    The Russian man has always been strong, and first of all, he is strong in his spirit. And like every strong person, he tries not to harm those who are weaker than him. It may even shun people, so as not to “hurt someone not in vain.” Weak person - he will shove everyone with his elbows, bounce, literally pass over the corpses, only to prove that he is very significant. But that does not make him strong.
    XXXX
    If we take our BP, then smart there, God forbid the fifth!
    1. 0
      20 March 2013 20: 29
      Quote: Egoza
      in my opinion, in the Duma, as well as in our Verkhovna Rada, smart, trained people should be involved in lawmaking.

      Sorry, and who you dear Egoza said that in the Duma deputies are involved in lawmaking?
      Doing it it’s smart, trained people.
      In the interests of certain people, groups, communities, vital necessities, etc.
      And deputies like them accept.
      Our whole life is a game, and the people in it are actors
      wink
  49. 120352
    +1
    20 March 2013 19: 30
    So is it better to lie or tell the truth? Something ESESEROM smelled. One truth to all, which, in reality, is a lie! Dima did the right thing. First of all, he is a person, not a screw in a state rotten system. And behaved as a person.
    1. 0
      20 March 2013 20: 15
      Quote: 120352
      So is it better to lie or tell the truth?

      And you are true friend, my friend! They say about such _ He loves to cut the truth, uterus in the eyes!
      So people like you in the process of cutting the truth, the uterus did not notice how she was stabbed!
      Quote: 120352
      Something ESESEROM smelled.

      Well, if you smell it, you should understand that your number is 120352. Unfortunately not the last!
      So far, 58-1a, 64, 65 are not valid.
      275 is so scare.
    2. Perchik
      +1
      21 March 2013 12: 12
      In the Duma, it simply stinks deputy shit !!!!

      First you get rid of this deputy shit, and then present a claim to Gudkov!
  50. -3
    20 March 2013 19: 31
    These are two Judas
  51. +2
    20 March 2013 20: 03
    Basically, there are small and narrow-minded assholes (Mironov and others) who commit dirty tricks against the people and make money for their loved ones. Parliamentary immunity helps them with this; this is why they go to the State Duma. request
    This is my opinion and is unlikely to coincide with the official one. hi
  52. butmer
    +1
    20 March 2013 23: 08
    I went to the USA to give them advice - How can you give a shit to your country. My grandfather, who was a partisan in the Smolensk forests for 2 years, called them simply - SKINS
    1. Perchik
      0
      21 March 2013 12: 10
      If only your grandfather had learned at the same time how his high-ranking fellow citizens are plundering the country, teaching everyone patriotism and at the same time owning accounts, real estate abroad and educating their own children there...
      He didn’t just call them “skins”, he would have shot them at the nearest tree!
      1. 0
        21 March 2013 13: 33
        That is, if someone in power steals, then is it a sacred thing to go to Europe and disseminate your country? Are you changing concepts or are you just stupidly trolling? Or maybe you're being stupid?
  53. +2
    20 March 2013 23: 19
    Well... these are the oddities of being and... logic. Gudkov, who wanted, albeit with the help of 3.14-NDOS, to bring into public view the secret foreign real estate of the “people's representatives” and other bureaucrats, became, in the opinion of some, a vile traitor. Interesting...
    So I’m stuck in thought - who are those who are engaged in “pehting” at a professional level? How to call the well-known political party and other chansonniers, quietly dragging everything “honestly earned” over the hill, starting from piastres and ending with relatives??? How can they represent OUR interests if their interests are abroad? Who are the traitors then?
    Can someone from the cohort of meathead lovers explain this trick?
    ______________________________
    There was such an ancient wisdom: “I have three friends: the first is my friend, the second is the friend of my friend and the third is the enemy of my enemy.” This wisdom is contained in a slightly different form in the Indian Laws of Manu, VII, 158: “One should consider an enemy a neighbor and a supporter of an enemy, a friend the neighbor of an enemy, a neutral everyone except these two.”
    There was also a Latin saying “Amicus meus, inimicus inimici mei”, that is: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 07: 09
      Quote: Understudy
      Well... these are the oddities of being and... logic. Gudkov, who wanted, albeit with the help of 3.14-NDOS, to bring into public view the secret foreign real estate of the “people's representatives” and other bureaucrats, became, in the opinion of some, a vile traitor. Interesting....

      Mr. Gudkov suggested that the United States intervene in Russia's internal affairs. This is a call to action that violates the sovereignty of the Russian Federation.
      In addition, in my humble opinion, he gave a greatly distorted picture of the dynamics of the processes taking place in Russia.
  54. Smaug
    0
    20 March 2013 23: 30
    Either share, or feed in a common herd.
  55. +1
    20 March 2013 23: 53
    Well, the guy went to the USA and who heard what the conversation was about.

    Not a guy, but a people’s representative, I’ll clarify just in case, and he didn’t speak on his own behalf.
    He is not a traitor, he is an enemy, he is not our man.
  56. igor12
    0
    20 March 2013 23: 53
    To be honest, when I learned about Gudkov in the news, I had no words. Well, there is such a thing as a Freak Man, people like that will sell their mother if someone buys him. It’s just a pity that the law on traitors to the homeland does not apply to such people, but it’s about time. It’s a pity that recently there have been a lot of such freaks.
  57. wax
    -1
    21 March 2013 00: 08
    Nobody there in America and the CIA Gudkov Jr. and does not consider him to be a person. They are just frolicking and making fun of the clown, and through him, of us. This is why Gudkov ml. and you have to smack it in the face.
  58. +6
    21 March 2013 07: 22
    Judging by the article and comments, ALL KAZLY
  59. +7
    21 March 2013 07: 27
    Judging by the article and comments, ALL KAZLs are in power
  60. +4
    21 March 2013 09: 14
    In recent years, I’ve gotten tired of answering, when I’ve been “over the hill,” who the Khodorkovskys and their ilk are... Recently, when asked who Yulka Timoshenko is, he blurted out in the heat of the moment that she’s BAB’s cousin, so the Norwegian’s eyes popped out of his head.. He explained that both of them, like M. Khodorkovsky, are grumblers and mafia makers. Now, we must understand this, we must prepare speeches about the family of insurgents who somehow “crept” into parliament.... I’m afraid they simply won’t understand. But Europe has been monitoring events in Russia for a long time, and, it seems to me, they have been neighing like horses since the days of conducting and dancing with EBN songs in Germany. Sadness...
  61. +2
    21 March 2013 10: 31
    And once again - our bureaucrats are complete nits. They and only they are traitors to the country. Today they reported that the girl who defended herself and her friend from thugs who attacked them in the subway, who were armed with knives, will go to prison! She shot from a trauma weapon, because... Sorry, he doesn’t know how to defend himself from a knife with his bare hands! And first she shot in the air! Everything was filmed by cameras in the subway. And she is imprisoned for this!!!
    They want to show us in every way that we have no rights, and they, the bureaucrats, are omnipotent and nothing will happen to them, even if they run over a child while drunk!
    And here you are saying something about the patriotism of bureaucrats and some kind of betrayal of Gudkov! Look at the wrong root, friends! I support with both hands any efforts directed against our bureaucrats! And patriotism has nothing to do with it. Let at least this Russian-bureaucratic lawlessness be voiced to the whole world. Let at least somehow someone from this caste of untouchables pinch the tail. Churchill correctly said at one time, “if Hitler suddenly goes to take over hell, then I and Satan himself will be an ally against him.”
    So set your priorities correctly - the most terrible and dangerous enemy of Russia is the current bureaucratic brat, and not some State Department with its orange hangers-on
  62. white2111
    +1
    21 March 2013 10: 50
    The “Human Rights” section on Belarusian TV talked about the creation of mothballed concentration camps in the United States in case of mass unrest. I read on your website that the state must be repressive towards corrupt officials, external and internal enemies, otherwise it will cease to be sovereign. So why are the Gudkovs and their comrades still at large? They themselves must be forced to build camps for themselves, somewhere on the southern coast of the northern seas of Russia.
    1. +1
      21 March 2013 11: 54
      Should they be imprisoned because they decided to play a dirty trick on Russian bureaucrats? No, I’m personally only grateful to them for this.
      1. white2111
        0
        21 March 2013 15: 07
        He complained to a state hostile to Russia. This is tantamount to betrayal. They are simply used, and then they are made into a sacred sacrifice or thrown into the trash.
  63. +2
    21 March 2013 10: 56
    The only ones who supported the problems of the military personnel were the Gudkovs. I saw them at the "Rally of the Deceived Regiments" and at many other events they organized. Thank them very much for this.
    We can say that all this is to raise your own rating.... Cheers! Who are they up against? Against swindlers and thieves in power. Against lawlessness in our country.
    Only a blind person will not see that the persecution of the Gudkovs began because they opened an abscess in the State Duma, when deputies have real estate and accounts abroad (in America). So who is selling the Motherland? Who is undermining its economic security? Are you on the side of the destroyers and destroyers of our country?
    1. -1
      21 March 2013 11: 49
      And here I am about the same thing. I don’t really care about the Gudkovs, but the fact that they are starting to look for traitors only among those who have encroached on the “holy of holies” - Russian bureaucrats - is annoying!
      Maybe the traitors are those judges who imprison for self-defense and acquit murderers (for example, the self-defense of Alexandra Lotkova and the murder committed by Mirzaev)?
      Maybe the traitors are those scum from the guardianship authorities who take children away because mom and dad are poor and don’t have proper housing?
      Maybe the traitors are those who keep the women's battalion under house arrest instead of bunks?
      Or maybe those who appointed the homosexual Shvydkoy as Minister of Culture? And thanks to whom homosexuals have gotten really wild in the last 5 years?
      Something bothered you guys, some performance by Gudkov! Well, since the Americans are enemies, why the hell are you holding Russian loot there?! Why the hell are their organizations, such as Family Planning, using the hands of deputy Lakhova (from PZhiV) introducing juvenile guardianship in our country?
      Why the hell are you cooperating with the USA then?!
  64. Perchik
    -1
    21 March 2013 12: 05
    By the way, it is curious that all the most high-profile political scandals of the last time are connected with the deputy corps. The current convocation of the State Duma is generally the champion for the entire existence of the lower chamber of the Federal Assembly. I have already ceased to be surprised at all that is happening there, and am waiting for a scandalous wave to spread to the Federation Council. But compared to Gudkov, any oligarch who has lost his deputy’s mandate seems to be a harmless and bright person. In his case, it might be useful to recall a criminal article on treason against the motherland.

    Exactly so dear author!!!
    The State Duma and the Federation Council are a bunch of bastards and political prostitutes!!!
    And if there is Gudkov who says this publicly abroad, then he is smart and a true patriot of the country!

    As it turns out, we don’t like to take our shit out in public, huh?!
    And we keep slurping up this shit with spoons and slurping.... but ours!
    Awesome patriotic shit-eating....
  65. Serg_Y
    +1
    21 March 2013 13: 22
    (+) Only one amendment to "
    It’s time to remember the Novgorod mayor Gostomysl, who came to Rurik a thousand years ago with the words: “Our lands are great and abundant, but there is no order in them. Come and own us!”, as far as I remember from history, Gostomys is Rurik’s grandfather, so I don’t understand what this text is for, is it a hint that Russia is the grandfather of the USA.
  66. 0
    21 March 2013 15: 35
    Gudkov is marginal (they used to be called demons), he is ready to sell state and people’s interests for the sake of his ambitions and to satisfy his personal needs. Such as during the occupations. They diligently serve the invaders, they must be driven out of power structures.
    1. Perchik
      +1
      21 March 2013 16: 17
      MARGINAL - that's you "Semyon Albertovich" :)
      People like you are also called idiots....
  67. +1
    21 March 2013 16: 29
    At one time I talked with deputies. Not of a very high level - city, and regional. I can't say anything good about them. sorry ducks. Including political ones. They don’t think about the people’s interests - there is no time to worry about such trifles. You need to fill your pocket.
  68. +1
    21 March 2013 16: 37
    As it turns out, we don’t like to take our shit out in public, huh?!
    ..

    Actually, in polite society, no one does this. For this you can get hit with a tambourine, and they will definitely stop letting you in, they will also call the orderlies, because great doubt will arise in your mental balance laughing
    But, seriously, there is an ancient wisdom, “not to wash dirty linen in public,” that is, internal problems must be resolved without bringing these problems to public discussion, otherwise you will be branded as a weak, childish and incapable rag, like Gudkov.
  69. 0
    21 March 2013 16: 54
    I don’t even understand how a civil servant walks free after such words. And it would be okay, all this is for the first time. He and dad, two bastards, have been muddying the waters for over a year now, working directly for the US State Department, receiving instructions from the ambassador - and getting away with it? Drivers who sell 200 grams of vodka will soon be shot, and those who exceed the limit by 5 km will be imprisoned for life. Here, united Russia is so kind and toothless - there is no punishment at all for betraying the homeland. What's this? A raven won't peck out a crow's eye?
    1. rodevaan
      0
      21 March 2013 19: 34
      You understand how “humane” and most importantly “fair” legislation we have!

      What do you think, 1917 appeared out of nowhere? Why do you think millions signed up for the Red Army and not the White Army?
  70. zemlyak
    0
    21 March 2013 17: 01
    Quote: GOLUBENKO

    D. Gudkov is a political corpse.
    This trip can wave a political career. He was kicked out of the party. The mandate will also disappear soon.
    Really, either the dude is not friends with the head.
    Well, he needs to be sent to Khodorkovsky for permanent residence under Chita.
    And better, let him bring down to the boss Kasparov in the USA.
    Soon, soon Khodorkovsky will be released from prison and fun will begin in Rus'! Everything will be ours....
  71. Perchik
    +1
    21 March 2013 17: 09
    Today's parties are full-fledged corporations, where they wash their hands.
    And they didn’t care about the interests of people... no matter what party they voted for.
    Pure scam...
    At least take unemployment benefits!
    Have any of you been unemployed lately?!
    I'm unemployed now and it's a complete p-ts!!!!!
    We all work hard and pay taxes, and when you come for government help, they hand you a pittance of 6900 rubles. per month (I support a family of 2 adults and a child), they are rude and sincerely surprised by my oh-so-sighted appearance from such “help”. How can I live on this money until I find a new job?!

    So it would be very important for me, having sipped the unemployed hard, that our poor deputies, who receive salaries of 180 rubles, take care of this glaring problem!
    1. Serg_Y
      0
      21 March 2013 17: 47
      Child benefit is 4500 rubles up to 1.5, after 1.5 until 3 they don’t give anything at all, it’s good that at 3 years old they provide kindergarten.
  72. +1
    21 March 2013 17: 39
    Quote: homosum20
    I don’t even understand how a civil servant walks free after such words

    After what words? The fact that we have bureaucratic thieves and we need to somehow pin them down? And if they said something against Chikatilo to the whole world, would that also be treason? Or against those people who raped a girl and then burned her alive, you would also be offended for them, because... Are they your fellow citizens according to their passport?
    Our bureaucrats have no homeland! I’m definitely not their homeland! I consider all actions directed against our untouchable caste justified. If a fascist wanted to shoot the Russian thief quartermaster, I would let him do it. True, he would have finished off the fascist later. So let Gudkov, even if he kills our bureaucrats with the hands of the State Department.
    1. -1
      21 March 2013 18: 05
      Quote: Magadan
      let Gudkov even kill our bureaucrats with the hands of the State Department.

      I’ve always been amazed at human naivety, and yours is something else.
      Does the structure of a foreign state mean it will fight against people who steal money from Russia and send it to them? Yes, they are safe here for now! So they should migrate closer to the money...
      The funny thing is, our thieves sincerely hope to live there quietly and peacefully. Look how cunning BB is and he’s tired of this quiet life. Consider there is no income, but expenses.
  73. rodevaan
    -1
    21 March 2013 19: 30
    The correct article!
    I always knew and were brought up correctly - we have no friends and allies - there are only enemies with whom we fight and will fight always and everywhere. And we must finish them off to the end. By all available methods. Russian nobility and kindness always costs us dearly.

    The Cold War never ended for us! Only stage 1 has ended. And we should finish harnessing, get moving and crush these Russophobes bastards mercilessly both within the country - the 5th column, and outside it. By all available methods, up to the physical elimination of especially dangerous individuals. Especially with your own filth, do not stand on ceremony - because they are 10 times more dangerous than external ones.

    Stalin did the right thing! Let these bastards have a 37 birthday, without any ceremony or other rubbish.
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 19: 37
      Quote: rodevaan
      The Cold War never ended for us!

      For them, they are already handing out medals
  74. rodevaan
    +1
    21 March 2013 19: 37
    What, gentlemen, do you think 1917 appeared out of nowhere?
    Why did the people go against the authorities and support the Reds? They rebelled not against the tsar, but against the bureaucratic and landowner bastards, first of all!

    And why did millions (not “Jewish communists,” as is usually the custom to cry, but quite Russian peasants, Ivanov and Petrov) enroll in the Red Army and not the White Army?
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 20: 00
      Quote: rodevaan
      What, gentlemen, do you think 1917 appeared out of nowhere?

      Firstly _ Gentlemen in the Black Sea
      Secondly _ Compare these videos, isn’t it scary?
      [media=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G_iNpRPhhOA]
      и
      [media=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p5V7y3iWF4M]
  75. 0
    21 March 2013 20: 41
    Quote: S_mirnov
    unpunished mud-slinging

    Why waste something as good as manure? It needs to be used wisely. Plant some grain. Can you imagine the kind of bread that will grow on such a heap? They'll shine, they'll turn golden! And then we will feed the whole world with this bread, grown on their own shit! No one will go hungry here :D
  76. 0
    21 March 2013 23: 19
    Quote: igor12
    after learning about Gudkov in the news


    The whole problem is the noodles spread by the news. What was actually said was carefully covered up...
    I repeat... for me, a traitor and an enemy is the one who stores his personal interests in foreign storehouses and, at the same time, is absolutely sure that he is the plenipotentiary people's representative. These are rats, because they are dragging here, but they expect to devour three throats somewhere there on the quiet.

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