Military Review

Tanks cross the border ("Gazeta Finansowa", Poland)

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The world market of large players producing military equipment has remained virtually unchanged for many years. The military industry, implementing long-term contracts, is focused primarily on the demonstration of new products, then on their sale, maintenance and modernization. Entrance to a specific market, for example, with a dozen tanks, makes it possible to subsequently conclude additional contracts.


The conclusion of contracts for the supply of weapons is a kind of game of intelligence, diplomats and manufacturers. Lobbying government circles is usually aimed at maintaining their own industries. This is known to Americans, Russians, and more recently, in particular, the Czechs. The United States has been the largest global arms exporter for many years, and in one 2012 year, they earned 25 billions of dollars. In second place is Russia, with a score of 15 billion dollars. Next come France (5,6 billion), Germany (4,5 billion), Great Britain (3,2 billion), Israel and Italy (by 2,8 billion). Slightly less, 1,9 billion, earned China on arms exports.

Army equipment

Regardless of the complicated relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with its military-industrial complex, the demand on the world market (not only for Russian equipment) is growing noticeably. At first, the Russians feared that changes in the distribution of political forces in North Africa could have a negative impact on arms exports from Russia, and, as a result, they would need to look for new markets. However, all members of the Russian government during their official visits abroad are lobbying in favor of the domestic defense industry. Suffice it to recall last year’s concept of Vladimir Putin, according to which about 2020 billions of dollars should be spent on the modernization of the army before 700.

Many Russian enterprises continue to supply their products to markets that were conquered during Soviet times. The situation changed in 2011, when Moscow adopted the State Armaments Program until 2020 (17 trillions of rubles). Under this program, the army is allowed not only to use the Russian military-industrial complex, but also to look for suppliers abroad. The Russian military industry followed with concern the actions of the former defense minister, Anatoly Serdyukov, who redirected logistics to purchase equipment abroad (in France and Italy). The idea of ​​modernizing and rearming the army for 700 billion dollars performed by Serdyukov in the ruling circles was perceived not too favorably, which led to his resignation. There were problems with the implementation of foreign contracts.

Lobby of Lavrov

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov began his African tour with Algeria. On February 11, he met with the head of Algerian diplomacy, Mourad Medelci and President Abdelaziz Bouteflika. The talks concerned the cooperation of the two countries in the military-technical, scientific and humanitarian spheres (the following stages of Lavrov's visit covered, in particular, Mozambique, South Africa and Guinea). Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin assured (February 5) that Russia will fulfill all its obligations under the contract with France regarding the purchase of Mistral-type amphibious ships. He also stated that all problems associated with this contract would be discussed at bilateral consultations. Rogozin accused the media of distorting his previous statements on this topic. According to the press, Rogozin allegedly said that Russia does not produce fuel and lubricants and fuels suitable for Mistral, which may complicate their operation. Earlier, he also stated that these ships are not suitable for the Russian climate (the purchase agreement was signed in June 2011 of the year, when Serdyukov was the Minister of Defense). The contract value is about 1,2 billion dollars.

Italians in Russia

One of the following was a contract with the Italians for the supply of armored vehicles from the Italian manufacturer Iveco LMV M65. It is planned that the Russians will buy 1775 armored vehicles, which are supposed to be assembled at the KamAZ plant. In 2012, 57 vehicles were released and transferred to the military, which were called “Lynx”. Russia allocated about 750 million euros for this program, refusing to equip the army with the domestic GAZ-2330 "Tiger", which is produced in factories owned by Oleg Deripaska. Such armored vehicles in service with the Russian army are now about 100 units. Frustrated by the manufacturers of "Tiger" said that the defense ministry arrived irrationally, since one GAS costs about 100 thousand euros, and "Lynx" - more than 300 thousand. According to experts, the only argument in favor of the contract with the Italians is that Russia needs to make up the technological gap in the field of armaments. It was caused by insufficient research funding due to the purchase of ready-made solutions abroad.

Army puts on imports

In the next five to six years, the Russian Ministry of Defense may spend about 10 billion euros on the import of military equipment from Israel and European countries. Contracts for the supply of Israeli unmanned aircraft, the purchase of a license for aviation target detection systems (Thales and Safran) and the equipment of the “soldier of the future” created in the framework of the French program FELIN. The Rosoboronservis concern is negotiating the purchase of Italian Centauro wheeled tanks, which could become a potential competitor for the products of the Russian Uralvagonzavod.

Putin puts on domestic producers

In December, 2012, at a meeting of the Commission on military-technical cooperation with foreign states, Putin ordered to support the Russian military-industrial complex on the market of third countries. This is planned to be achieved through promotions, participation in exhibitions and forums, as well as expansion of service. If in 2011, Russia's income from the sale of weapons amounted to 13,2 billion dollars, in 2012 it increased to the number in 15 billions. The Russians managed to sign contracts for the supply of not only traditional equipment, but also, in particular, helicopters (Iraq, China, Ghana, USA). Of the 2012 contracts of the year, 37% accounted for aviation equipment (in 2011 - 34%), 21% - in naval equipment (in 2011 - 20%), 25% - in air defense systems (in 2011 - 20%), 10% - on armaments of ground forces (in 2011 - 21%). The partners have not changed much - these are India, Algeria, and Vietnam. Iran has become a new market with contracts for the supply of Russian equipment by about 4,2 billion dollars (first of all - helicopters).

Tanks for export

Over the past 20 years, Russia has exported two thousand tanks to 19 countries of the world. The following 200 units will be sold in 2013-2015's. Uralvagonzavod occupies a leading position in the export of tanks, producing and supplying 1300 tanks to customers under long-term contracts. In second place is the Omsk Transport Engineering Plant, whose products are mainly filled with military warehouses. 709 machines of less modern models T-62 and T-72 were sent for export. Under contracts, Russian tanks were sent to the markets: India (2001-2002 year - 557 units T-90С), Iran (1993-2000 year - 426 units T-72С), Algeria (195 units T-90CA). Older models were shipped to some countries: Afghanistan bought T-2001AM55 and T-2 (total 62 pieces) in 52, Cuba in 1993 - T-72 (51 piece), Venezuela in 2011-2012 - T-72BNNNX pieces). Russia armed the army of Bulgaria (1 year - 92 units T-1996 / AK), Armenia (100 year - 72 units T-1996), Azerbaijan (64 units T-72B), Mongolia (62 year - 72 units T-2012А), Angola (50 year - 72 pieces T-1994), Uganda (30 year - 62 piece T-2011C). In the 31-90, the 1997 units of the T-2011U tanks were sold to Cyprus.

Tanks were shipped to Yemen, Oman, North Korea and Turkmenistan. In addition, Russia has signed a new contract for the supply of 900 new models of tanks to India (in the amount of 3 billion dollars). Despite this, Moscow feels that the US military industry is already breathing in the back of her head. In 2006-2009, the Americans sold more than 200 Abrams tanks worth 1,4 billion dollars. By the end of 2014, they plan to sell 300 more pieces of new machines for 3,5 billion. In third place in this ranking is Germany, which sold 2006 tanks for 2009-290 for the years (mainly Greeks and Spaniards worth 3 billion dollars). By the end of 2013, it is planned to sell another 125 machine parts for Leopard-2 for 1,3 billion. [...]

American activity

Americans are intensively looking for new markets for their equipment, while strengthening their position in their traditional markets, especially Egyptian. In Saudi Arabia, in the year 2012, the United States supplied Abrams 315 tanks. In the coming years, this market will become a field of rivalry between America and Germany, and the market of Egypt (and Iraq) is already monopolized by the Americans. The Egyptian army has a thousand American tanks and plans to buy more 125 units under the new contract. For Russian weapons, these markets are closed, the only exception is Iran, to which Russia traditionally sells helicopters.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 March 2013 16: 04 New
    22
    It’s even strange from psheks to see an article without ambition and politics.
    1. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 20 March 2013 16: 51 New
      -4
      hi We beg the adversary Mistral, galleys and Faberge eggs ...... ???????
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 21 March 2013 06: 53 New
        -1
        Well you are real Mudozvon lol
  2. evgenii67
    evgenii67 20 March 2013 16: 09 New
    +3
    Hello everyone! "The United States delivered 2012 Abrams tanks to Saudi Arabia in 315. In the coming years, this market will become a rivalry between America and Germany, and the Egyptian (and Iran) market is already monopolized by the Americans. The Egyptian army has a thousand American tanks and plans to buy another under a new contract 125 pieces. " As far as I remember, the USA does not produce Abrams tanks, but only modernizes the existing ones, the F-22 production is stopped, the F-35 which should replace the legendary, but aging F-16 (and there are quite a few of them), to put it mildly, not very .... . (maybe they disarm lol )
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 20 March 2013 17: 06 New
      +4
      they are degrading.
      1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        NOBODY EXCEPT US 20 March 2013 18: 58 New
        +2
        The last 250 years ......
    2. bask
      bask 20 March 2013 18: 07 New
      11
      Quote: evgenii67
      a thousand American tanks and plans to buy another 125 units under a new contract. "

      And SUSHA does not calculate the possibility of a war between Israel and Egypt. I would like to see how the Abrams and Merkava are burning in hundreds of pieces.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 20 March 2013 19: 29 New
        +6
        "Merkava" Americans will do. First of all, because of the best crew training.
        1. bask
          bask 20 March 2013 22: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          First of all, because of the best crew training

          At idex-2013. Was introduced. Sudan soldier self-propelled howitzer ,, Khalifa ,, GHY02. .Our D-30,122-mm, on a modified armored chassis KAMAZ -43118
          The total weight of the self-propelled howitzer -20,5 tons
          Cool Sudanese, they release something. Our and probably without a license for D-30
          But still.
        2. Castor oil
          Castor oil 21 March 2013 02: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          "Merkava" Americans will do. First of all, because of the best crew training.

          "No, son, this is fantasy, not the cheese of the Andes" (c)
          By the way - did you personally train the crew of the IDF?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 21 March 2013 03: 01 New
            +3
            No, but I know the one who personally trained the Egyptians.
  3. zavesa01
    zavesa01 20 March 2013 16: 10 New
    +7
    For a long time Seryukovschina will be heard.
  4. rennim
    rennim 20 March 2013 16: 12 New
    10
    Do not associate odious personalities with citizens of the whole country ... Everywhere there are normal people ... and in Poland too.
    1. Irkit
      Irkit 20 March 2013 19: 05 New
      +6
      There are Psheks, but there are Poles and Polish. (and polka is really nothing :)
    2. maxon109
      maxon109 20 March 2013 21: 57 New
      +1
      One by one, they are normal, but how they get together in a herd, it does not happen worse. Remember the European Football Championship when our fans were beaten
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 21 March 2013 00: 00 New
        +3
        - Yes, they are normal men, our people are constantly wandering to Poland .... So this year, the Poles will come to visit the opening of the motorcycle season ... It seems that no one is muzzling anyone ...
    3. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 21 March 2013 02: 34 New
      +2
      It’s just a normal review, We have a poor sales market that is narrowing, whether we want it or not, And most importantly, in this review, the search for new customers and our president’s demand in the light of the events is completely correct, we are pressed for new customers, this whole verbose article ,, And the President does the right thing,
  5. fzr1000
    fzr1000 20 March 2013 16: 15 New
    +1
    In the next five to six years, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation may spend about 10 billion euros on imports of military equipment from Israel and European countries. Contracts have already been signed for the supply of Israeli unmanned aircraft, the purchase of a license for aviation target detection systems (Thales and Safran) and the “soldier of the future” equipment created as part of the French FELIN program. Rosoboronservis is negotiating the purchase of Centauro, an Italian wheeled tank, which could be a potential competitor for the products of the Russian Uralvagonzavod.



    I did not understand this. Who will clarify?
    1. opkozak
      opkozak 20 March 2013 16: 58 New
      -3
      http://inosmi.ru/army/20120516/192034945.html
      The Russian army prefers Italian tanks
      ("Panorama", Italy)
      Gianandrea Gaiani



      After acquiring Iveco's Lince armored vehicles, which were used by ten countries in Afghanistan due to their high level of protection against makeshift explosive devices and engineering mines, the Russians are now testing the heavy Centaur armored car.

      This machine has 8 wheels, it weighs 24 tons, there is a tower equipped with a cannon of 105 -120 mm caliber. The Russians want to add their standard artillery barrel for tanks of 125 mm caliber. The “Centaur” underwent baptism of fire in the Italian army in Somalia in 1993-1994, where it was used more than once in battles. Then it was used by troops in Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq.

      It seems that the Russians, who are adopting 150 Lince armored vehicles and are planning to produce at least another 1.500 vehicles in the coming years at the Oboronservis plant in Voronezh, are also interested in producing heavy centaur armored vehicles under the license of a consortium between Iveco ( Fiat Group) and Oto Melara (Finmeccanica Group). According to the news agency, negotiations in this direction are underway these days.

      In addition to classifying a tank destroyer, the Centaur can also be used to transport troops, as can the Frechchia infantry fighting vehicle. For more than a year now, it has been adopted by the Italian contingent in Afghanistan and equipped with a thirty-millimeter quick-fire gun. Consequently, the "family" of Centaur-type armored vehicles is able to satisfy the many demands of the Russian army, which should replace military equipment dating back to Soviet times.

      This year, during the parade on Red Square on May 9, we could see the first copies of Lince. Today, Putin’s army is relying on Italian armored vehicles to modernize.
      1. Russian
        Russian 20 March 2013 17: 12 New
        +9
        This information will be coming soon! Under Serdyukov, such garbage might have happened, but with the new minister, it’s already gone, and they have already officially denied it.
        1. bask
          bask 20 March 2013 17: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Information will be coming soon! Under Serdyukov, there could have been such garbage,

          If that’s worth it. This is an BTR ,, Boxser ,,, Infa was that he was brought for testing to Russia at the end of 2012

          The rock producing military equipment has remained virtually unchanged for many years.

          And this is already outdated infa .... China goes to 5th place in the export of arms.
          Russia just needs to remove all restrictions on the arms trade with Iran. This is a potential buyer with great financial opportunities.
      2. dmitreach
        dmitreach 20 March 2013 17: 56 New
        +4
        opkozak, You are a little behind events. You still forgot to mention the “acquisition” of 200 roofing felts, 500 Patria felts, from Finns and similar articles in the German press about Boxer.
        Now the situation looms as follows:
        Felt.
        Ride.
        Bargained for production.
        In the course of the bidding leafed through the documentation (not advertising)
        Pick your own.
        In September they will show.
        And who will say that this is not right?
        Who else believes in 007? and Hollywood industrial espionage?
    2. dmitreach
      dmitreach 20 March 2013 17: 25 New
      +2
      So it is, but the presentation is not entirely true. Do not spend (with connotation delay "master"), and create a joint venture.
      Thales - from avionics to thermal imagers. leaders of the global market for the production of shrimp. The Vologda Optical and Mechanical Plant and Omichi still seem to be short with them.
      Safran - NPO Saturn, Rybinsk. Engine building (SSJ and dviglo: SaM146) and more. By the way, they are the second in the world in engines, after Honeywell International, Inc. after them Rolls-Royce Group plc, our UEC, like Salute and Saturn, although in the top ten, but not in the first positions. And they make high-tech systems like Vampir NG.
      All sorts of STX France / Europe / Finland Oy and the like.
      For example, such a joint venture:
      Arctech Helsinki Shipyard - JV in Vyborg with STX Finland. Ice class vessels (Vitus Bering)
      And it just recalled right away ....
      And in prison - the author of the article lives last year. A centaur will not buy.
      10 lards, if they spend it, then on joint ventures, on their development and the appearance of new ones. There are already many examples, but there will be more.
      You need to understand that with the loss of Ukraine as an industrial region, Russia seeks to acquire Belarus (long list), Italy (Yak-130), Germany (S-1000 NPL - NPL for export to third countries with VNEU), Finland (Icebreaking fleet) and France (Safran / Thales / DCNS / ALSTOM, by the way, the French government bows them with cancer to unite) ... And often it turns out on the level!
  6. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 20 March 2013 16: 15 New
    +3
    How they want us to spend our denyushki on their weapons (as many as 10 lard).
    But buying "for furniture" does not make sense.
  7. Kars
    Kars 20 March 2013 16: 24 New
    +5
    Under contracts, Russian tanks went to markets: India (2001-2002 - 557 T-90S), Iran (1993-2000 - 426 T-72S), Algeria (195 T-90CA). Older models were shipped to some countries: Afghanistan in 2001 bought the T-55AM2 and T-62 (a total of 52 pieces), Cuba in 1993 - the T-72 (51 pieces), Venezuela in 2011-2012 - the T-72B1V (92 pieces). Russia armed the army of Bulgaria (1996 - 100 pieces of T-72A / AK), Armenia (1996 - 64 pieces of T-72), Azerbaijan (62 pieces of T-72B), Mongolia (2012 - 50 pieces of T-72A), Angola (1994 - 30 pieces of T-62), Uganda (2011 - 31 pieces of T-90S). In 1997-2011, 82 pieces of T-80U tanks were sold to Cyprus.


    We forgot the delivery of T-80U to South Korea to pay off debt.
    1. Nuar
      Nuar 20 March 2013 20: 30 New
      +1
      what
      uh, but why should they?
  8. opkozak
    opkozak 20 March 2013 16: 28 New
    +6
    The article is really fresh from 13.03/24. And the translation is pretty accurate. Source http://www.gf11269.pl/XNUMX/czolgi-przekraczaja-granice
    By the way, the Poles write about the war quite normally both about Afghanistan (where they themselves are fighting) and about Syria. In their press he himself found pictures of the Polish Wolverine armored personnel carrier undermined in Afghanistan. By the way, the explosion was such that an armored personnel carrier turned over onto the roof and tore off two wheels, but miraculously the whole crew was alive, out of 12 people only 3 were wounded, the rest were shell-shocked and bruised. They make Wolverines in Poland under a Finnish license (Patria). Published on March 08.03th.
    They write that the explosion funnel was the size of a single-family house, and the armored personnel carrier was completely destroyed. Another confirmation of the good construction of Finnish Patria.
    1. bask
      bask 20 March 2013 17: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: opkozak
      BTR burned completely. Another confirmation of a good design

      Not only construction but also armor.
      And it all started in South Rhodesia and South Africa.
      South Africa 1977. One of the first MCIs, Crocodile ,,, Based on a Nissan commercial truck ,,, Our advisers in Angola captured dozens of them. Why did not pay attention to their mine protection and body shape.
      1. mankurt
        mankurt 20 March 2013 18: 01 New
        +3
        This is an old story. In Tskhinvali, they took a pair of Turkish armored personnel carriers (Georgian). It seems like the photo. Also interesting design
        1. bask
          bask 20 March 2013 19: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: mankurt
          .Also interesting design

          This unfortunately was not captured in 2008, it wasn’t there yet. But the design is really interesting.
          Pasr-Turkey ,, 4 / 4.6 / 6,8 / 810/10 ... this is a clone of Amerovsky
          GPV 4/4 Sentry.6 / 6 Commander.8 / 8 ,,, short ,, Captain ,, long base 8/8, Colonel ,, 10/10, General ,,.
          1. Artyom
            Artyom 20 March 2013 20: 32 New
            +4
            some kind of painfully low landing, only on asphalt and ride yes
            1. bask
              bask 20 March 2013 21: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: Artyom

              some kind of painfully low landing, only on asphalt and drives

              It's simple, hydropneumatic suspension. : hi Maybe, get up
              Another monster .Gallac Gage 8/8 From ASV
          2. Conepatus
            Conepatus 20 March 2013 21: 30 New
            +2
            Actually, this is a state concept.
          3. kursantosha
            kursantosha 21 March 2013 00: 00 New
            +2
            with such clearance only move on hi-wei lol
            1. bask
              bask 21 March 2013 00: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: kursantosha
              akim clearance only on hi-wey move

              amers did for themselves. Ride LAV150 .M 1113 4/4 ..Afghan ..
              Delivered to the National Guard of Afghanistan.
          4. pavlo
            pavlo 21 March 2013 08: 43 New
            +1
            On it would be from ZIS-2 to scam!
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 20 March 2013 21: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: mankurt
          In Tskhinval they took a pair of Turkish armored personnel carriers (Georgian).

          What is the cross-country ability of this miracle technique, let me ask? Ground clearance seems lower than the subcompact
  9. Apollo
    Apollo 20 March 2013 16: 50 New
    +4
    Countries exporters and importers of weapons.
    1. bask
      bask 21 March 2013 00: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      exporters and arms importers

      In the first Asian country, Kttai entered the top five countries, exporters of weapons.
      1. USA. 2. Russia 3. Germany. 4.France .5. China. Walked around the UK
      And slowly captures our markets
      Party supplies, multi-purpose armored vehicles VN4 .4 / 4. for the national guard. Venezuela
      1. opkozak
        opkozak 21 March 2013 00: 36 New
        +5
        AvtoKrAZ traditionally took part in the IDEX-2013 arms exhibition, where it presented a new project jointly with Ares Security Vehicles LLC (Dubai, UAE) - the KRAZ-ASV Panther armored personnel carrier (Panther's own name means that the vehicle belongs to the Panther family of armored vehicles manufactured by Ares Security Vehicles). In accordance with the nature of the IDEX-2013 exhibition, which, in comparison with previous years, has replaced an aggressive, offensive focus on peacekeeping, defensive, KRAZ-ASV Panther was painted in dazzling white. Thus, the creators of the armored personnel carrier wanted to emphasize one of the purposes of the car - work as part of peacekeeping missions UN for the safe transport of personnel.


  10. amp
    amp 20 March 2013 17: 07 New
    +2
    Is it true the Poles wrote? )))
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 20 March 2013 18: 03 New
      +3
      After considering the acquisition of 126 (seem) second-hand Leoperds, less than for La Euro / pcs. - the logs began to sober up ...
      1. bask
        bask 20 March 2013 23: 29 New
        0
        Quote: dmitreach
        battles 126 (seem) second hand 4, less than for La Euro / pcs. - logs started sober

        [img] http://search.photo.qip.ru/photo/?query=Army recognation !!!! & p = 2 & l = www.armyrecognition.com / images / stories / europe / united_kingd
        om / main_battle_tank / challenger_1 / Challenger_1_Main_Battle_Tank_British_Army_Unit
        ed_Kingdom_640.jpg & p = 2 [/ img]
  11. oleg-ural
    oleg-ural 20 March 2013 17: 10 New
    +4
    If I'm not mistaken, then the contract for the supply of helicopters was concluded with Iraq, and not with Iran, and then amers in the Senate arise.
  12. Army1
    Army1 20 March 2013 17: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: fzr1000
    In the next five to six years, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation may spend about 10 billion euros on imports of military equipment from Israel and European countries. Contracts have already been signed for the supply of Israeli unmanned aircraft, the purchase of a license for aviation target detection systems (Thales and Safran) and the “soldier of the future” equipment created as part of the French FELIN program. Rosoboronservis is negotiating the purchase of Centauro, an Italian wheeled tank, which could be a potential competitor for the products of the Russian Uralvagonzavod.

    This is old news. Do not worry. Everything seemed to be canceled, even to the bottom of misral.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 20 March 2013 19: 03 New
      +2
      Nobody canceled anything, it was announced that Russia would fulfill the already signed agreements, and the rest would be reviewed anew ....
  13. WS
    WS 20 March 2013 17: 31 New
    +2
    and the market of Egypt (and Iran) is already monopolized by the Americans

    (and Iran) there is one American technology or what?
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 20 March 2013 19: 09 New
    +2
    The lag in our industry can be eliminated by allocating funds for research and development. And when buying screwdriver sets abroad, we will not catch up with the West !!
    1. bask
      bask 21 March 2013 00: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      we will not catch up with the West !!

      We’ll catch up if we develop and implement our own technologies. Do not hesitate to adopt, copy something from the best world models.
      The UAE is buying the whole production technology and its manufacturing plant.
      МРП ..NIMR 6/6. OEA
      Buy technology .USA, may not sell, but South Africa, France, South Korea, no problem.
      NIMR 6/6
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 21 March 2013 18: 47 New
        0
        Quote: bask
        We’ll catch up if we develop and implement our own technologies. Do not hesitate to adopt, copy something from the best world models.

        Who will we catch up?
        Purchasing Mistral? We bought a license to weld two buildings, and everything else is French.
        Iveco - just screwdriver kits !!
        It is inaudible to talk about the fact that we are buying a factory for the production of wheeled tanks.
        We are talking about assembling wheeled tanks in our territory!
        In order to put TK for the wheeled tank to our enterprises and announce a tender for the purchase, we are negotiating ................... again about the purchase !!!
  15. selbrat
    selbrat 20 March 2013 19: 19 New
    +3
    "These markets are closed for Russian weapons" In this case, the markets of the adversaries of these countries are open for us to supply their anti-tank weapons there laughing
  16. Octavian avgust
    Octavian avgust 20 March 2013 19: 53 New
    +2
    In third place in this ranking is Germany, which sold 2006 tanks in 2009-290 (mainly to the Greeks and Spaniards in the amount of $ 3 billion).
    The decent fellows themselves give the southerners and all poor relatives money so that they would buy weapons and goods from them! With one shot of two birds with one stone! hi
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 20 March 2013 21: 33 New
      +3
      Russia has given a loan to Venisuela and Indonesia for the purchase of Russian weapons. Now everyone is doing it.
  17. Watchman
    Watchman 20 March 2013 22: 26 New
    +2
    How is the Iraq market closed? And that scandalous Mi-28 contract? Well, the supply of armor is already resolved.
  18. bask
    bask 20 March 2013 22: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Watchman

    How is the Iraq market closed? And that scandalous Mi-28 contract? Well, the supply of armor is already resolved

  19. bask
    bask 20 March 2013 23: 41 New
    0
    Polish infantry fighting vehicle, on ,,. Middle ,, platform ,, Anders ,,
  20. wax
    wax 20 March 2013 23: 46 New
    +5
    If in Syria, in the event of NATO aggression, heaps several tens of aircraft in the first two or three days, then any country will buy Russian air defense systems.
  21. Onil
    Onil 21 March 2013 02: 09 New
    +2
    Psheks envy. Their armored vehicles were last bought 10 years ago, and then in small quantities.
    1. Conepatus
      Conepatus 21 March 2013 02: 25 New
      +2
      A couple of years ago, won a tank tender in Malaysia
  22. radio operator
    radio operator 21 March 2013 09: 25 New
    0
    In principle, a normal article, without Russophobia, so characteristic of the Poles.
    Put + for objectivity.