"Brother, pay"

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"Brother, pay"

Since the publication of the article, which caused a certain response, “Do we need this Abkhazia at all?”, not much time has passed, but the situation, to put it mildly, has changed.

One gets the complete impression that our Abkhaz friends have simply lost their bearings and their cart is hurtling uncontrollably down the slope. I cannot say that the actions of the Abkhaz authorities are logical, rather it looks more like the Abkhazians are testing the nerves of their Russian colleagues, because they are not so much making mistakes as provocations that are incomprehensible to Russian logic.



All this is gradually leading the relations between Russia and Abkhazia, if not to a break, then to a considerable cooling. Even when I was writing that article, I communicated with Abkhazians and, naturally, discussed the developing situation with representatives of this people living in my city, as frankly as possible.

To be honest, the impression was so-so. They had a very strange scheme in their heads: "We are for Russia, so give us everything we need." And it was expressed very strangely: Russia provides electricity, Russia pays pensions and salaries to public sector employees, Russia repairs the broken highways and railways, and what about Abkhazia? And Abkhazia easily makes money on Russians in the summer, and in the winter Abkhazian tangerines also do not cost fifty rubles per kilo.

In general, this “For Russia” in Abkhazian is nothing more than “At the expense of Russia”.


With all this, the Abkhazians very clearly distinguish between the pocket of their small country and their own. What I mean is that no one pays taxes there. And they almost say this with pride. What kind of land tax is there for a person with a three-hectare plot of land if he fought for it? What kind of transport tax can there be if he drives on his own land, for which he fought?

No, that's all right, but why should I pay for the repair of his road? On which he will comfortably cut through in his car? And why should I, a Russian, pay for Mr. Abkhaz's electricity? Why, really, "for myself and for that guy in Abkhazia", ​​because he is "for Russia!"? Let him be against it, I only benefit from it.

What is electricity for an Abkhaz? It's simple: it's an opportunity to live comfortably without working. Generally, for an Abkhaz to say that he works somewhere is mortal torture. He will (for example) lay bricks at a construction site, but he will tell you to your face that he has his own small construction business, he takes contracts. Small, but his own.

But, as I understand it, the main business of the Abkhaz clans is mining farms. This can be found in almost all private homes in the basements. This business has not taken root here because it is expensive and requires a lot of electricity. And in Abkhazia, where no one pays for electricity, why not launch five "cells"? And they launch them, and make a lot of money from it.

Here are the figures: Russia was supplying electricity to Abkhazia at 1,40 rubles/kWh. The commercial price, which made all of Abkhazia howl, was 4 rubles. And the Abkhazian rulers really started behaving badly: oh, how bad, there is not enough electricity, we will close schools and kindergartens! Give us electricity, Russia!

And something about closing crypto mining farms - not a word. That's right, schools and kindergartens are state-owned, and crypto farms are ours.

By the way, as a Russian, for some reason I pay 5 rubles and 73 kopecks per kilowatt-hour. That is, more expensive than an Abkhazian, who does not even want to pay 1,40 rubles. Well, if you pay, what will you buy toys for? And there are plenty of toys in Abkhazian yards, and very expensive ones at that. The residents of Abkhazia have a passion for very expensive cars, which confirm their high status.


By the way, I got some flak from the Abkhazians after the first article: they were offended that I made them out to be "poor people". But they have beautiful houses and expensive cars...

Well, the ruined roads, the destroyed infrastructure, the same sewage system in Sukhum, from which streams of sewage regularly flow through the city, are, as they say, something else. And if Russia had not increased its electricity consumption by 10 billion in recent years, then all these Abkhazian "rich people" would be driving around in used "Prioras" and not in "Mercedes" and "Lexuses".

Well, here's the bottom line: the "Russia gives us everything, and we love Russia" scheme stopped working. Moscow decided to stop supporting Abkhazia (and there's no other term for the current situation), and Abkhazia immediately started pouring out... No, not threats, but something similar. "We'll turn off kindergartens and schools," and behind the scenes, Russia will be to blame for not wanting to supply energy for free.

But this is a normal consequence of the refusal to ratify the investment agreement, after the conclusion of which Russian legal entity investors would be able to buy real estate in the republic. It was discussed back in July, but something went wrong. Then they wanted to adopt it in November, after Moscow suspended social payments in Abkhazia and decided to supply electricity to the republic at market prices.

Well, what did many people face with the price of 4 rubles per kilowatt-hour, and what would they have to pay for, and here you have a rebellion against signing the agreement, and who is behind it, we will tell you below. If in general, then those who benefited from Russia continuing to support Abkhazia, and President Aslan Bzhania (yes, not the best president in stories countries) resigned.


The reason for this and previous rebellions is the same: enrichment from Russian financial aid. Here we must understand that there is no politics as such in Abkhazia. There is a clan system, and the funniest thing is that it has no ideology at all, so to speak, for everything good against everything bad. Everything good is an opportunity to enrich oneself at the expense of Russia. One clan comes to power, sits there, snatches it for itself - then another, and so on ad infinitum, as long as Russia gives money.

The problem is that, as I warned in the first article, Russia's wallet may not be for Abkhazia. And in fact, there is where to put the money and what to build and restore in the new territories. And the Abkhazians can tolerate without new BMWs and Mercedes. And in general, modesty is an adornment.

But here it became known that Sukhum requested the supply of 327 million kilowatt-hours of electricity in 2025 on a free basis. Now that's what you call impudence.

And then it started on social networks... "Yes, we can do it ourselves", "Yes, Turkey will help us" and all that. The level of intelligence of some parts of the electorate was demonstrated to the fullest extent. It is clear that in Turkey they only think about how to give electricity to Abkhazia. For free. And they will bring tangerines to boot.

But what the Abkhazians are doing in general is one question. The more important question is who is behind the riots, the calls, the resignations and, most importantly, who is in line for the presidential chair. And here the very interesting details begin.

Any emergency, as Lazar Kaganovich said, has a full name. So does the rebellion with the resignation of the president of Abkhazia.

Can Quarcia


Here, for example, is a respected person in Abkhazia, a candidate to take the seat of the President of the Republic of Abkhazia, Kan Kvarchia.


Kan Kvarchia is a man from a criminal background who is striving for power, a corrupt and venal MP and the main figure in the attempted coup d'état in Abkhazia that took place from November 15 to 18.

The set for a presidential candidate is simply stunning. In a more or less civilized country, they wouldn't let someone like him within a shot of the elections, in a less civilized country, they would stop him with a shot. But so that it doesn't look like just an unsubstantiated "attack", I will cite several facts from Kvarchia's biography, which the Abkhazians themselves, to whom I showed the recordings, admitted to be all true.

In 1995, K. Kvarchia and Chinchor Shadania killed a police officer during a conflict. For this crime, both were detained by law enforcement agencies, and a criminal case was opened by the Sukhum city prosecutor's office. Shadania took all the blame on himself, as a result of which Kvarchia was released.


In 2002, Kvarchia and Shadania were detained on suspicion of kidnapping citizen D. V. Buav (the family of the kidnapped person paid a ransom to Kvarchia and Shadania). However, both defendants were not convicted in this case.

In 2013, as a member of parliament, Kvarchia received 5 million rubles for assistance in the privatization of a 3-hectare land plot in the Gagra region.

In 2015, Kvarchia's business partners, Nodik Kvitsinia and Bigvava Dzhumber (Kvarchia's uncle), were found guilty of murdering Russian businessman Sergei Klemantovich and his assistant Oksana Skarednova. There are rumors that Kvarchia may have been involved in the murder as well.

The rumors are based on the following. Russian businessman S. Klemantovich headed the El-Petroleum company, which was engaged in the procurement of ferrous scrap metal. To establish the work of this company, S. Klemantovich purchased special equipment and vehicles, which were subsequently put on the balance sheet of the RUE Abkhazvtorresursy, affiliated with K. Kvarchia. K. Kvarchia was deputy general director of the state company Abkhazvtorresursy from 2002 to 2004. In 2019 (after the death of S. Klemantovich), K. Kvarchia was writing off this equipment, which was on the balance sheet of the RUE, in favor of KaRO LLC, of ​​which he himself was the founder. Then KaRO LLC leased this equipment to Abkhazvtorresursy RUE.

From 2014 to 2020, K. Kvarchia received a significant share of the profits of RUE Abkhazvtorresursy, while officially he was neither the head nor an employee of this enterprise. During the period of receiving profits from the activities of RUE Abkhazvtorresursy, he acquired the Anana hotel, a brick factory (Sukhum, Chanba Street), cars and other valuable property.

In 2020, using his connections and influence, he illegally privatized the Baslata-HPP hydraulic structure. In September 2020, he traveled to Sochi to negotiate the possible sale of the hydroelectric power station, but the deal did not take place. After that, K. Kvarchia installed mining machines at the facility.

Kvarchia has strong connections in the criminal circles of the Republic of Armenia. He maintains contacts with the so-called "thieves in law", one of whom - Timur Gvasalia (Makolya) - was previously the husband of his half-sister.

And with such an excellent track record, Kvarchia was a deputy several times and headed Sukhum. Well, that's how things are done in the Republic of Abkhazia. Kvarchia's father, Valery Kvarchia, is a respected person without quotation marks, a scientist, a doctor of philological sciences, was the speaker of the People's Assembly of Abkhazia from 2017 to 2022.

But his son Kan Kvarchia did not show himself at all in the post of mayor of Sukhum and in legislative activity. He preferred to speculate on nationalistic sentiments and critical populism.

And it was Kan Kvarchia who, when the Abkhaz opposition held protests on November 11, 2024, called for the roads in Abkhazia to be blocked.

Yes, there were many discussions and arguments about the fact that law enforcement officers detained the opposition members in an excessively harsh manner. Maybe so, but does this justify, in essence, even harsher, bordering on extremism, actions of the opposition members? On the contrary, even if law enforcement officers were wrong, it could have been proven in the legal framework, but the opposition decided to demonstrate in response that they were wrong to the highest degree. But how the Abkhaz opposition will act in similar cases if it comes to power is a question.

On November 15, the opposition held protests. During the active actions, they managed to gather only a few hundred people despite all attempts to mobilize supporters. It was Kan Kvarchia who then acted as the instigator and provided fighters to seize the administrative buildings. As a result, not only did the opposition force the president to resign, they destroyed their own state facilities, took out and distributed secret documentation, including among employees of pro-Western non-governmental structures. Having seized the buildings, in addition to the resignation of the president, in the name of the entire people with weapons in their hands they began to put forward demands for the provision of positions to them for the appointment of controlled persons, which already has signs of extremism.

My Abkhazian consultants flatly refused to discuss the personality of Kan Kvarchia. I don't know for what reasons, but they, the reasons, seem to lie on the surface. And such a person as the president of the Republic of Abkhazia, which is 100% dependent on handouts from Russia, looks more than dubious.

The next "hero" is Levan Mikaa



He is also eager to get into politics, but, in fact, he represents an aggressive but marginal part of Abkhazian society, which wants to brazenly take up positions in the republic's leadership. Mikaa is a clearly pro-Turkish character (and does not hide it), prone to fraud and greed.

Levan Mikaa did indeed take part in the military actions to repel the Georgian aggression in 1992-1993, like many Abkhazians. But he did not distinguish himself by heroism from other defenders of the Motherland, at least there is no evidence of his exploits. But he distinguished himself by his impudence - in Abkhazia, a significant number of witnesses of those times can tell how Levan, referring to his relationship with the famous Bagrat Shinkuba, wrested the honorary status of Hero of Abkhazia from the first president of Abkhazia Vladislav Ardzinba and his entourage. Well, and then he began to make money on the title, and in a very original way.

In 2011, Levan Mikaa, being the director of Akapa LLC, took out a loan from the Savings Bank of Abkhazia in the amount of 32 million rubles at 10% per annum with a repayment period of January 1, 2016.

As collateral, he indicated a building in the city of Sukhum at the address Dzhanashia, 4. The building was built and sold to residents, and the loan to the bank was not returned until 2023, which fell under the fraudulent scheme. In fact, the bank had the right to take away the citizens of Abkhazia's housing because of Levan, and only the disclosure of this information by the bank forced it to return the money ( link for publication of materials).

In 2021, he established the “Committee for the Protection of the Sovereignty of Abkhazia” in opposition to the pro-Russian initiatives of the Abkhaz authorities.
In 2022, with his financial and ideological support, the youth organization "Harakh Pitsunda" was created, consisting of functionaries of pro-Western NGOs, which is categorically against the transfer of the state dacha "Pitsunda" to the Russian side and other Russian initiatives. It is noteworthy that this organization calls not even to consider options for adjusting Russia's proposals, but to cancel them without discussion. Surely, not all young people from this organization realize what role they play, but for some reason they allow themselves to be used as an instrument of anti-Russian activity.

In Abkhazia, Levan Mikaa's close ties with representatives of Turkey are well known. In particular, he works closely with the Russophobic and Western-controlled organization "Kaffed". In the spirit of Western theses, Levan Mikaa in every way disseminates theses according to which Russia has been engaged in genocide of the Caucasian peoples, thereby trying to provoke interethnic discord.

According to Abkhazians, Mikaa periodically receives money from representatives of pro-Western organizations and Turkey. This fact is not exactly discrediting for Mikaa, but it is well-known, which does not add to the popularity of the "hero", and the level of support for Mikaa among the population is considered low.

L. Mikaa, among the protest leaders, most sharply condemned the ratification by the RA parliament in December 2023 of the agreement on the transfer of the state dacha in Pitsunda to the Russian Federation and, in fact, publicly accused other oppositionists who showed a compromise position of “betrayal”.

Adgur Ardzinba



From the team of former President of the Republic of Armenia Raul Khajimba, under whom crime flourished and who was overthrown as a result of gangster showdowns in 2019. Not an opposition leader, but, let's say, standing close. Does not hide his plans to return to power, speculates on anti-Russian sentiments.

He has already been in power. In 2015, Ardzinba was appointed by the then President of the Republic of Armenia R. Khajimba to the post of Minister of Economy of the Republic of Armenia. Since December 2019 - Deputy Prime Minister of the Government, Minister of Economy of the Republic of Armenia.

As head of the Ministry of Economy of Abkhazia, A. Ardzinba did not have any particular professional successes. Social problems of the republic were not solved under his rule, the economy did not demonstrate development. At the same time, it was he who took the initiative to allow mining in Abkhazia, which ultimately significantly affected the republic's energy system and led it to a crisis, for which Ardzinba today scolds the current authorities.

While engaged in opposition activities, Ardzinba does not offer a way out of the crisis, does not demonstrate any programs, and is engaged in the usual populist speculation of any initiatives of the authorities. If he decided to build at least a playground, that is, to create a product that can be assessed, then, as in any initiative, there would certainly be critics of this result. That is why Mr. Ardzinba prefers not to take risks and not to produce anything except empty criticism, directed, among other things, against Russian projects.

But the funniest thing here is that at one time, under President Khadzhimba, Ardzinba was one of the developers of the Investment Agreement with the Russian Federation, which the Abkhaz authorities tried to ratify in November of this year and which Ardzinba himself harshly criticized. Cynicism and hypocrisy are worthy of giving master classes to Ukrainians.

Outside of government service, Ardzinba has also achieved nothing. He heads a public organization that is not serious. How does he live? Apparently, on the clan's money, which he obtains by operating mining farms. He has the nickname "Parasite", which is a good illustration of the Abkhazians' attitude towards him.

Total, against the backdrop of the news that Russia, at the request of the acting president of the Republic of Abkhazia, Badra Gunba, will once again begin to supply electricity free of charge: there is no need to relax.


Russia is genuinely interested in the development and prosperity of Abkhazia, as a neighboring friendly country recognized by it, and is doing everything possible for this. But this does not mean at all that the maintenance of Abkhazia and the prosperity of the clans will be as before at the level of "We are for you, continue to support us." A lot will depend on the course that Abkhazia takes in the near future, namely after the presidential elections.

It is important to understand that 90% of Russian electricity will go to supply mining companies that belong to Abkhaz clans. Yes, they pretend to be trying to fight mining, but this is all just window dressing. A war of bees against honey, because mining is a source of comfortable existence for entire clans, whose representatives pretend to be involved in politics.

When Valery Bganba says that the only way to solve the problem with electricity is to close schools and kindergartens, since there is no way to supply them with electricity, this is simply a hypocritical provocation and nothing more. Any "politician" from Abkhazia will not think about schools, but about his source of income, which is where the lion's share of Russian electricity goes. "But we are for Russia..." sounds pretty bad.

Considering how much a kilowatt-hour costs for a Russian and how much the gentlemen Abkhazians do not pay for it (let me remind you that the collection rate for supplied electricity is less than 40% in the republic), considering the complete and clearly expressed desire of the clans of Abkhazia to take for themselves and live at someone else's expense to the fullest extent, considering that recent events have very well shown how wonderful life in Abkhazia can be according to the Russian standard (that is, everyone pays for what they consume), the residents of the republic have something to think about before February 15.

On February 15, 2025, Abkhazia will hold early presidential elections, and then we will understand whether resuming dialogue with Moscow is possible or impossible. And now is the time for the Abkhazians to take their heads and think carefully about who to vote for.

No, we will accept the choice of the Abkhazians in any case, the only question is to what extent Moscow will want to conduct a dialogue with the criminal Kvarchia or the swindler Ardzinba. More precisely, within the framework of political relations with the Republic of Abkhazia recognized by the Russian Federation, the dialogue will be conducted, but I am afraid that the freebie will end immediately.

And perhaps this is a great option. Representatives of the Abkhaz clans are very mediocre politicians. They want to live well (or better yet, very richly), without straining themselves too much with work. This is a fact, otherwise mining would not be flourishing in the basements of private homes in Abkhaz cities. But, alas, as politicians they are below the low level, because they simply cannot imagine any other way than constant begging from Russia. Well, of course, they are for us... At our expense.

There is still time to think, and it is necessary to think well. Because its dissatisfaction with the choice of such a candidate as those listed above, Abkhazia can easily lose its content.

Yes, I would be absolutely "for" if the Abkhazians started paying 7 rubles per kilowatt-hour for Russian energy. I am also for Russia and its bright future, but I pay 5 times more than the Abkhazians. And it is completely unfair that I pay out of my own pocket for their BMWs and Mercedes, without which an Abkhazian is not a normal Abkhazian, but so...

Independence is, first and foremost, the opportunity to be independent and pay your bills. The independence of Abkhazia is on the table of Sergey Tsivilev, the Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation. And this is also a reason to think.

I would like to finish without reproaching the Abkhazians, although there is something to reproach them with: the unpunished appropriation of Russian aid for their own pockets, apartment and car scams with the outright robbery of Russians, the dual-passport lifestyle, when they have a Russian passport in their hands when they need to buy something in Russia, and an Abkhazian one if they have some problems with the law.

And here is this strange situation, when we are brothers, that is, an Abkhaz can do whatever he wants in Russia, and a Russian in Abkhazia is exclusively a guest for his own money. And if something happens, the decisions of Russian courts for the legal system of Abkhazia until recently were no more valuable than the paper on which they are written.

Such strange brotherly relations. And in the heads of Russians more and more doubts about our "brotherhood" do not even creep in, but fly in with a kick. For what kind of brother is this, with a hand in a Russian pocket up to the elbow? We have already had such in history, and for the most part they did not end very well.

So think, think and think again, brothers from Abkhazia, and think less about the impression their family estates and multi-million dollar cars make. And think more about completely different things, for example, how to really make Abkhazia a pearl.


And you can't say that everyone there in Abkhazia is as uncivilized as it sometimes seems. In general, they are truly warm-hearted and kind people, everyone I met there is very educated and erudite. You want to communicate with such people, and on the same level.

But this is wild stuff... With shooting, with theft and fraud, with these, excuse me, concepts at the level of the nineties of the last century...

Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.
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  1. +24
    25 December 2024 03: 57
    Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.
    It is not often that something really depends on the common people. Rather, it depends on those who organize and control the people, which requires political will and resources. And here the question is for the Russian leadership, why for so many years such a force has not been put under control or organized while actually maintaining Abkhazia.
    1. +9
      25 December 2024 09: 09
      They had a very strange scheme in their heads: "We are for Russia, so give us everything we need." And it was expressed very strangely: Russia provides electricity, Russia pays pensions and salaries to public sector employees, Russia repairs the broken highways and railways, and what about Abkhazia? And Abkhazia calmly makes money on Russians in the summer, and in the winter Abkhazian tangerines also do not cost fifty rubles per kilogram.
      In general, this “For Russia” in Abkhazian is nothing more than “At the expense of Russia”.

      When thinking about Abkhazia, the Korean film "Parasites" always comes to mind - when impudent, cunning, ungrateful, shameless people settle in someone else's house and live at someone else's expense...
      1. -6
        25 December 2024 09: 39
        There is so much pathos in the fight for the interests of "Russian investors" who robbed their own people, disfigured the coast of Sochi with concrete walls and "birdhouses" on the beaches, and are now ready to reach Abkhazia. To establish a pass regime to the sea there too.
        1. +7
          25 December 2024 10: 11
          And you were robbed? If you want to live like that without concrete walls and passes - move to Abkhazia!!!
          1. +1
            25 December 2024 11: 05
            You were robbed too, unless you are Tkachev or Gref, of course. By the way, the robbers themselves have open access to the sea in Russia - but they only install walls and barriers for the "plebs".
        2. +2
          25 December 2024 11: 35
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          disfiguring the coast of Sochi with concrete walls and "birdhouses" on the beaches,

          As far as I know, this is not "Russian investors", and local small illegal builders - ready to kill for their illegal construction.
          1. -1
            25 December 2024 12: 26
            Well, well, well! In Praskoveevka, they say, a whole division of the Border Service is blocking the beach - not a fly can get through.
            1. +5
              25 December 2024 12: 32
              Quote: Boris Sergeev
              Well, well, well! In Praskoveevka, they say, a whole division of the Border Service is blocking the beach - not a fly can get through.

              When the local bailiffs shot - for a birdhouse - it seems that this was also a "Russian investor" for whom the border guards are fencing off a piece of the beach??!!

              Calm down, it's clear who's building these birdhouses out of feces and sticks... There are plenty of local small quadrobers there...
              1. +2
                25 December 2024 12: 55
                It is clear who is grabbing the best parts of the Black Sea coast, where everyone had access, and turning them into their own domain, using private security or law enforcement services. And there is no point in shifting the blame to the small fry that are swimming in the wake.
                1. -1
                  30 December 2024 10: 17
                  Quote: Boris Sergeev
                  It is clear to see who is grabbing the best parts of the Black Sea coast, where everyone had access, and turning them into their own possessions, using private security or law enforcement services.

                  It is a complete anti-Soviet. And that says it all. It will defend the system with foam at the mouth, citing examples of varying degrees of inadequacy from the Soviet Union.
              2. +17
                25 December 2024 13: 35
                My relatives lived in Abkhazia for a couple of years, having arrived there in 1947 - the population did not pay any taxes to the state back then (and did not even understand why they should do so), and were not poor at all. Our family did not see anything good from the Abkhazians.
                To accept Abkhazia into Russia, a people who have never paid taxes, and worked only for their own pockets, and whose national heroes are those who fought with the Russians in tsarist times (this is at the state level)? To believe that this population will suddenly start working honestly for the state (paying taxes) is utter stupidity.
                1. -6
                  25 December 2024 14: 50
                  So they'll arrange a "second Chechnya" for you with such "heroes". Or did Ukraine not think it was enough when the Russian leadership quietly crawled away at the mention of Bandera?
                  1. +5
                    25 December 2024 15: 12
                    What do you mean by a second Chechnya? Be more specific and scary
                  2. 0
                    26 December 2024 18: 17
                    Quote: Boris Sergeev
                    So they will arrange a "second Chechnya" for you with such "heroes".
                    With such "heroes" the most that the Abkhazians can do is the same "Maidan" that recently took place in Tbilisi. Except that they will shoot a little more.
            2. +1
              25 December 2024 15: 10
              they say or have you seen?................................................................................................
        3. +5
          25 December 2024 12: 32
          I arrived from Sochi three days ago. Budget complex Velvet Seasons with an outdoor pool heated to 27 degrees. Many people swim. A room for 2 with all the amenities is 2900 per day. Clean and tidy everywhere. Free access to the sea. Well done for investing. Putin is a real beauty for building this area on the site of the swamps before the Olympics. And how much outcry there was from the marginals back then that everything would be stolen! In the summer, all the hotels are full. Don't write nonsense if you've never been there. The Abkhazians should kiss the Russians' asses for wanting to turn their snake pit into a normal resort area.
          1. -7
            25 December 2024 12: 58
            "Officer's Daughter", open the pages of reviews about vacations in Sochi and read there about prices, and rusty fences on the beaches, and about sewage discharged into the sea. Glory to the "Russian investors" who recently sank two oil tankers built in the 50s, intended for river routes!
            1. +9
              25 December 2024 13: 54
              Why should I read reviews from those who are always dissatisfied? I was recently in the Olympic Park area myself. I was in Sochi in 93, but it was a post-Soviet snake pit. Now it's like night and day. There's a beautiful embankment with bike paths, and sewage is discharged into the sea in almost all Black Sea cities through a pipe 300 meters deep into the sea. In Adler it's cleaned. In Abkhazia, almost all vacationers get diarrhea because the shit goes straight into the sea.
              I'm not a daughter, I'm a senior reserve officer.
              1. -2
                25 December 2024 14: 46
                By your own logic, there is even less sense in reading the comments of the "eternally satisfied". As recently as September 2024, the mayor of Sochi was sent to jail along with his deputy. Embezzlement on an especially large scale, however. The sewage system, you say, is 300 meters away...
                1. +6
                  25 December 2024 15: 27
                  You don't like the fight against corruption? Corruption is everywhere. They didn't put the mayor in jail - it's bad, they put him in jail - it's also bad. A kind of eternally whining Vassisualy Lokhankin from the classics. Check out the history of the construction of the Berlin airport.
                  1. 0
                    25 December 2024 15: 40
                    In the old days, people like you were beaten with candelabra. For overstaying their welcome. I had no assessments of the fight against corruption. There were doubts - and, apparently, justified - about the targeted use of funds allocated for city needs. And those who have a crooked mug should not try to make their neighbors crooked too.
              2. +3
                25 December 2024 15: 17
                Igor Knysh.....Why are you explaining anything to this creature, for him everything in Russia is bad, everything is wrong, By the way, about the sewerage system, In Tallinn the sewerage system is led out into the sea through a collector, this is the EU, where the fight for the environment is in first place
                1. +3
                  25 December 2024 15: 31

                  "Tourists are lying in bed with rotavirus." Vacationers from all over the country and Sochi residents beg authorities to eliminate sewer leaks
                  Fecal streams flow through the streets and then into the sea - the smells are terrible and people are getting sick

                  12 July 2024, 09: 00

                  Residents of the Chkalovsky microdistrict beg regulatory authorities to pay attention to the environmental disaster
                  Source:
                  Anna Gritsevich / SOCHI1.RU
                  The sewage pumping station in the resort town of Sochi - the Chkalovsky microdistrict, where thousands of Russians vacation every summer, can be easily found by the smell. Foul-smelling streams run along the streets right to the sea. Tourists try to avoid them, but it is not easy, they are everywhere. Those who do not have the money for hotels in Sirius and the center of Sochi vacation there, vacation in the Chkalovsky microdistrict is considered budget, there are many mini-hotels there. Teachers, doctors save money all year round to spend at least two weeks in Sochi and improve their health. But they are forced to walk through sewage puddles and swim in the sea, which stinks unbearably. Details - in the material SOCHI1.RU"

                  However, you can spit in the eyes of these creatures - it’s all God’s dew.
                  1. 0
                    25 December 2024 15: 45
                    Well, there's no point in going to the hovels of old Soviet Sochi. It's like Abkhazia there. And you like it.
                    I wrote to you about the Sirius zone where entire cities are built for vacationers, where I was 3 days ago
                    https://bh-s.ru/ цены вполне приемлимые.
                    Nearby is the huge Sochi Park complex.
                    https://sochiparkhotel.ru/
                    Why do you always want to go to the trash heap?
                    1. +1
                      25 December 2024 15: 58
                      You've got it all out, "your honor"! So raise the issue so that all officers have the same income as Timur Ivanov - and then they'll all go to you in Sirius, and not to the "old Soviet shacks".

                      General Kirillov lived in a "shack" like this on Ryazansky Prospekt.
                      1. +1
                        25 December 2024 16: 27
                        Military pensioners love to play the poor! I have been on a military pension for 20 years (since I was 37) and I still work. Because a pension of 27000 is not enough for a still healthy man. Well, I don’t pay and I don’t envy Ivanov. I get away on vacation twice a year. If you want it cheap, there is a military website
                        https://skkmorf.ru/
                        I booked a stay at the Betta holiday home for the end of May in 2025 without any problems. 10 days for two, 25000. It's not for military pensioners to feel deprived. But they like to whine!
                      2. +2
                        26 December 2024 07: 59
                        Quote: Igor Knysh
                        Military pensioners love to play the poor! I have been on a military pension for 20 years (since I was 37) and I still work. Because a pension of 27000 is not enough for a still healthy man. Well, I don’t pay and I don’t envy Ivanov. I get away on vacation twice a year. If you want it cheap, there is a military website
                        https://skkmorf.ru/
                        I booked a stay at the Betta holiday home for the end of May in 2025 without any problems. 10 days for two, 25000. It's not for military pensioners to feel deprived. But they like to whine!

                        Let me ask, what rank did you retire with? My father retired as a captain in 86 and his pension was bigger.
                      3. +1
                        26 December 2024 09: 26
                        With the rank of lieutenant colonel, he left the major's rank after a series of layoffs. The salaries were low because he did not serve in the central office. He served 20 calendars until the minimum pension at 37 years old. He resigned in 2004 because he rightly decided that life should not only be spent in the army. Well, everything turned out fine in civilian life, although not ideal.
                      4. +2
                        26 December 2024 10: 59
                        Another temporary shelter. Where did you see the poverty? The median salary in Russia is 40 rubles, compared to its "638 days for two for 10 thousand" - this is very expensive, so people are looking for cheaper options, stumbling upon the sewerage system that bypasses the "celestials" from Sirius.

                        As for T. Ivanov, the question was what kind of military
                        merits that allowed him to arrange family holidays in Saint-Tropez with yacht rentals, which his superiors could not have been unaware of and which no military pensioner can afford?
                      5. -2
                        26 December 2024 11: 05
                        Well, in general, people all over the world save up for vacation. The median salary is 40. If both work, it's already 80000. It's not a problem to save 10000 of that per month. Well, if you don't squander or waste the money. I've lived in all sorts of ways. I know what I'm writing about.
                2. 0
                  25 December 2024 15: 42
                  "Tallinn" is written in Russian. Or is Russian your second language?
            2. +4
              25 December 2024 21: 04
              Your Abkhaz leaders should simply be arrested and their buddies should be arrested. Introduce direct Russian presidential rule and that's it... Dry your oars, the dinghy won't go through the rapana.
            3. 0
              26 December 2024 14: 57
              Volganefti were built in 1969-1972
          2. 0
            26 December 2024 18: 27
            Oh, Sochi, Sochi, as Willie Tokarev sang "stone sand". Although, of course, in Sochi there is no stone sand, but flat pebbles. And in Sochi the best place was Bytkha drinks
          3. 0
            2 January 2025 16: 00
            Quote: Igor Knysh
            The Abkhazians should kiss the Russians' asses for wanting to turn their snake pit into a normal resort area.

            And here in Crimea it’s a complete mess, Krasnodar Krai can’t be rebuilt, no, we need to invest in Abkhazia?
            Of course, order is needed there, but the emergency investment of funds says a lot.
      2. +4
        25 December 2024 15: 08
        100% definition, parasites need to be poisoned
        1. +2
          25 December 2024 16: 34
          I have a classmate from the platoon in Sukhumi who lives (my mother-in-law had a house there). He says that they are taught harshly. Maybe something will get through. If not through persuasion, then through the butt.
      3. +1
        26 December 2024 10: 08
        I believe that the main Russian TV and FM radio channels are broadcast in Abkhazia, where political talk shows are broadcast daily. But I do not recall a single program where the issue of Abkhazia's parasitism at the expense of the Russian Federation was raised. It seems that this topic was banned by our propagandists. And it turns out that we ourselves quietly tolerated parasitism for almost 30 years, without bringing this problem to the attention of the citizens of both countries. Or at least before signing the ill-fated agreement, because of which this squabble played out, it was necessary to prepare the Abkhazians for a long time and patiently and explain to them in all media why this cannot continue indefinitely. Invite their leaders and influential deputies to talk shows... Has anyone ever seen anything like this in 30 years? Our heroic "Abkhaz from Pyatnashka" Akhra Avidzba was on the show a couple of times with stories about the battles for the LPR and DPR. But when he tried to return to his homeland, he was immediately arrested and accused of racketeering local parasites...he barely escaped with his life.
      4. -1
        30 December 2024 10: 14
        Quote: zloybond
        When thinking about Abkhazia, the Korean film "Parasites" always comes to mind - when impudent, cunning, ungrateful, shameless people settle in someone else's house and live at someone else's expense...

        The film is not about that at all. But you are apparently one of our fans of "correct" capitalism. When people are exploited to the point of exhaustion, and then thrown away like garbage.
    2. +9
      25 December 2024 09: 39
      Quote: 123_123
      And here the question is for the Russian leadership: why, over so many years, such a force was not brought under control or organized in the actual maintenance of Abkhazia.

      Russian boss, in on it. What "bringing order to Abkhazia"? First we need to bring order to our own place. As long as grey schemes rule, there will be no order there, nor here.
    3. man
      +2
      25 December 2024 20: 23
      Quote: 123_123
      Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.
      It is not often that something really depends on the common people. Rather, it depends on those who organize and control the people, which requires political will and resources. And here the question is for the Russian leadership, why for so many years such a force has not been put under control or organized while actually maintaining Abkhazia.

      Oh, there are already so many questions for the Russian leadership that cause confusion among the population, and the question of Abkhazia is not the most important of them...
    4. 0
      29 December 2024 10: 47
      What do you want from the Russian leadership? If Ukraine was fucked up, and you talk about Abkhazia! These guys didn't work even during the USSR!
  2. +1
    25 December 2024 04: 21
    Yeah... Since the times of the USSR when I was there, I got the impression that Abkhazia is a real snake pit and cesspool. How many years have passed, and nothing has changed. I don't think it will change. It needs to be incorporated into the Russian Federation, the leadership needs to be completely changed and order needs to be brought there. That's the only way.
    1. +23
      25 December 2024 06: 12
      Oh my God, don't make it part of Russia. Are you completely brainless? What good are these parasites inside the country? To increase the level of crime? To drift in Moscow? Maybe we should also make Tajikistan part of Russia? And what, I think they won't mind. Truly, people without reason.
      Stop giving them money completely, down to zero, introduce strict border controls and visas, introduce duties on all their goods (tangerines), sell electricity on a pre-paid basis at a price THREE times higher than on our domestic market.
      The result? Half a year, and the Abkhazians will happily jump and fulfill all the demands. Just don't give them any demands, let them stew in their own juice and learn to work.
      It would seem like a task for a first-grader, but neither you nor our government will ever find a solution. Because there is too much of all sorts of friendly shit in your head
      1. -5
        25 December 2024 06: 18
        Well then let's give Primorye, Amur Khabar to China. Kuril Islands, Sakhalin to Japan. Kaliningrad to Germany. Caucasus to Turkey. If we follow your logic... Russia will then remain Moscow with small towns. It was not we who gathered the empire for centuries in parts, it is not for us to squander it... We have enough parasites in Russia, why give them all away too? Order must be established in Russian lands with an iron hand, and not fidget on the chair of both yours and ours - that is what must be done.
        1. +9
          25 December 2024 09: 22
          um... there is a difference: Kaliningrad, the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin are all part of Russia, official and full-fledged.
          and Abkhazia and the rest is NOT our territory. All the games of "recognition" were exclusively due to friction with Georgia...
          well, and in recent years, according to "unconfirmed information", some bypass routes with "shadow" deliveries (for example, weapons to the LPR and DPR until 2022) have been running through there...
          that's all...
          no need to compare with our regions...
          1. +7
            25 December 2024 09: 30
            Here is ours - not ours, these are all abstractions. The Kremlin, for example, is vigorously promoting the Western idea that Ukraine is a special country, although 30 years ago it was our territory.
            In this regard, I remember that the great Russian city of Smolensk once belonged to another country for almost a hundred years, but was returned.
            1. -4
              25 December 2024 11: 59
              Quote: Gardamir
              The Kremlin, for example, is working hard promotes Western idea that Ukraine is a special country, although 30 years ago it was our territory.
              When Putin said that "Ukraine is part of the Russian Empire and the USSR" - does that not count?
              1. +2
                25 December 2024 12: 14
                To be honest, I don't remember. I probably said it a long time ago.
                1. -4
                  25 December 2024 12: 24
                  I said it around 2015-16

                  From the last:
                  November 3, 2023
                  MOSCOW, November 3. / TASS /.
                  "We all know very well, these are historical facts, that all southern Russian lands were transferred during the formation of Soviet Ukraine, during the creation of the USSR. There was no Ukraine as part of the [Russian] empire, there were regions," the head of state pointed out.
                  "They began to form the Soviet Union and formed a huge Ukraine, primarily and to a large extent - at the expense of southern Russian lands," Putin added.
                  Including, as the head of state noted, at the expense of the Black Sea region. "Although all these cities, as is known, were founded by Catherine II after a series of wars with the Ottoman Empire," he added.
                  Putin noted that "modern Russia came to terms with this after the collapse of the Soviet Union." "But when they started to exterminate everything Russian there [in Ukraine] - this, of course, was beyond the pale. And when they finally declared that Russians were not an indigenous nation on these lands - this was complete lawlessness," he said. "And at the same time, they started to exterminate Russians in Donbass to the applause of the West."
        2. 0
          25 December 2024 15: 28
          That's exactly it, in Russians, Primorye, Kaliningrad and everything else that you described here (except for part of the Caucasus) are Russian lands, we need them.
          And Abkhazia is not Russian land, let the Abkhazians enjoy themselves there.
      2. -7
        25 December 2024 07: 01
        Quote from: newtc7
        Oh my God, don't make it part of Russia.

        So what? Are you Abkhaz?

        Abkhazians are already all citizens of Russia. If Abkhazia joins Russia, what will change? It won't get any worse, that's for sure. But there will be order everywhere.
        1. +4
          25 December 2024 10: 16
          Well, you, an adult, don't you understand that it will change? It will get even worse, they will demand even more freebies, are you ready to pay for the wants of these mountaineers? I am not!
        2. 0
          25 December 2024 12: 05
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote from: newtc7
          Oh my God, don't make it part of Russia.

          So what? Are you Abkhaz?

          Abkhazians are already all citizens of Russia. If Abkhazia joins Russia, what will change? It won't get any worse, that's for sure. But there will be order everywhere.

          And is there much more order than in Abkhazia - in our Caucasian republics? Dagestan is in the top three regions for mining..

          "The Cabinet of Ministers of the Russian Federation approved a ban on mining in the republics of the North Caucasus Federal District from 2025 to 2031.
          Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkessia, Chechnya and North Ossetia were included in the list of regions and territories where Mining will be banned from January 1, 2025 to March 15, 2031. TASS reported this with reference to the corresponding decree of the Russian government, which the editorial office has at its disposal.

          Mining will also be banned in Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, in the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions. belay belay belay

          In some areas of the Irkutsk region, Buryatia and the Zabaikalsky Krai, restrictions on mining will be in effect during peak consumption periods. In 2025, they fall on January 1 - March 15, and in the following years - from November 15 to March 15."
        3. +5
          25 December 2024 15: 31
          No, I’m just not right in the head, so I don’t want some kind of grey zone with little useful and very harmful people to become part of Russia.
          Well, who gave them these passports? The same ones who gave 3 million Tajiks? So maybe this is the problem - there is no need to hand out passports to anyone and make the country a public thoroughfare?
          Citizenship is such a thing - it can be taken away, if there is political will.
      3. +7
        25 December 2024 12: 34
        Everyone there has Russian citizenship. They gave it to me out of stupidity.
    2. +7
      25 December 2024 11: 31
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      It is necessary to integrate it into the Russian Federation, completely change the leadership and strictly establish order there. That is the only way.

      We will get a second Chechnya, with its own laws, tsar, etc.
      Only there will be no possibility to cut them off from preferences, because if now it is a “separate country”, then later it will be a region of the Russian Federation with yet more unique citizens of the Russian Federation, who cannot be deprived of benefits, otherwise something might happen...
      1. -4
        25 December 2024 11: 42
        But there is already an example - the Chechen Republic. So, something like a special forces academy should be created on the territory of Abkhazia. Let them fight for the money that Russia invests in them. Let them work it off, like the Chechens do.
        1. +8
          25 December 2024 12: 16
          I am categorically against it. Such academies should only be in the territories of Russian regions.
        2. -1
          25 December 2024 12: 46
          They need their own Kadyrov there. And one clan at the head. One clan will steal less and there will be more order. Maybe they will put Abkhaz from Pyatnashka to do this, it will be easier to explain to him with a kind word and a gun.
    3. +1
      25 December 2024 15: 20
      Let Georgia take these parasites, it is its territory and it is fair
  3. +19
    25 December 2024 04: 23
    It's even interesting whether there was anything that the "creator of meanings" Surkov touched, and that it didn't end up in "Abkhazian mining" winked ?
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      1. +9
        25 December 2024 06: 14
        It is not yet known whether we are worse in domestic or foreign policy. However, they complement each other so organically that there is no need to compare them.
        1. +14
          25 December 2024 07: 43
          Quote from: newtc7
          It is not yet known whether we are worse in domestic or foreign policy.

          Everything is fine. In all policies. Complete success!! In foreign policy - the grandmaster of geopolitics only wins! He won three times in Syria. And now in Ukraine. Soon it will be three years since the rapid offensive on all fronts! What else do you need?
          Well, and inside. So everyone knows that never before has a person lived as well as under Putin! Right?

          Well, yes. Inflation, prices are rising... It hasn't been able to win for 25 years already. If you can't win, you have to lead! And from the New Year, our benefactor introduces new excise taxes on various goods (alcohol, cigarettes, gasoline...). Inflation alone is not enough, we have to spur it on! So after the New Year, the holiday comes to us in the form of new price tags in stores.
          1. +3
            25 December 2024 08: 00
            our benefactor introduces new excise taxes on various goods (alcohol, cigarettes, gasoline...)
            It's for our own good... quit drinking and smoking, walk more... Life expectancy will increase... It's just not clear what life expectancy and rising electricity prices have to do with it? Although I guess it has to do with demography, watch less TV and spend less time on the internet... have children... pour them into the piggy bank of future deaths...
          2. +1
            25 December 2024 12: 12
            Quote: Stas157
            So everyone knows that never before has a person lived as well as under Putin!

            The problem is that after some time it may be that you say this not with sarcasm, but with nostalgia...
            And it will be scary.
            I am a pessimist and I know for sure that under any government things will be very bad at first. And whether we will live to see the transition from very bad to bad or normal is not a fact at all.
            After both redistributions of property in the 20th century, people lived very poorly for about 10 years...
            1. +3
              25 December 2024 12: 18
              Quite the opposite, Putin’s first years were quite good, but then his partners started to deceive him.
              1. -1
                25 December 2024 12: 27
                Quote: Gardamir
                Quite the opposite, Putin’s first years were quite good, but then his partners started to deceive him.

                The redistribution of property was for 10 years beforeJust as after 1917 everything settled down by about 1930, so now everything has stabilized by about 2000.
                Roughly 10 years
              2. 0
                25 December 2024 14: 07
                It wasn't great in the army from 2000 to 2004 either. Then the standard of living gradually rose after Khodor was jailed and the rest of the oligarchs were forced to pay taxes.
          3. -6
            25 December 2024 12: 41
            Did you live better before Putin? Are you a child of the party nomenklatura or traders? Or did you plunder the country in the 90s? Everyone else, the overwhelming majority, began to live better under Putin. Under Yeltsin, I did not receive a salary for 6 months. So no need to whine. Putin is truly the best president in the world at the moment.
            1. +3
              25 December 2024 12: 44
              Did you live better before Putin?
              Cool! And 1982 is considered before Putin?
              1. -4
                25 December 2024 12: 50
                Yes. Until 2000. Until 1982, the party nomenkatur and traders with their connections were doing well. The rest were only sold canned sprats in the store. Sometimes bluebirds too. In Tula, at least. For the rest, crowds flocked to Moscow on commuter trains.
                1. +3
                  25 December 2024 13: 22
                  In 1982 I was twenty years old, I remember everything, my parents were workers
                  1. -1
                    25 December 2024 14: 04
                    I was 15. There was nothing in the stores except for pollock, sprats in tomato sauce, galoshes and boots in the "goodbye youth" style in the department store. For something better, go to the market, flea market (3 prices) or to Moscow by train. Walls-furniture in the furniture store were only for Heroes of the Soviet Union (there was a sign hanging). I remember it as if it were yesterday. This was in Tula. Maybe you lived in the Baltics?
                    1. +3
                      25 December 2024 14: 36
                      In the Kirov region. A small town.
                      1. -1
                        25 December 2024 15: 22
                        If it was a military or closed town, then maybe everything happened.
            2. 0
              27 December 2024 07: 54
              Quote: Igor Knysh
              Did you live better before Putin? Are you a child of the party nomenklatura or traders? Or did you plunder the country in the 90s? Everyone else, the overwhelming majority, began to live better under Putin. Under Yeltsin, I did not receive a salary for 6 months. So no need to whine. Putin is truly the best president in the world at the moment.

              I'll say this. Life has gotten better under Putin, but not for long. I'm judging by myself. In 2009, the salary was 50-55. Now it's 000. Awesome growth in prosperity.
              1. 0
                27 December 2024 09: 04
                Well, in 2008 I was getting 70 as the director of an auto repair shop. Now I'm getting 000 as a civil servant. But I don't blame Putin. It suits me. If it doesn't suit me, change jobs. There are many places where you can earn more. For example, as a courier, learn to be a welder, etc.
                1. 0
                  27 December 2024 10: 29
                  Quote: Igor Knysh
                  Well, in 2008 I was getting 70 as the director of an auto repair shop. Now I'm getting 000 as a civil servant. But I don't blame Putin. It suits me. If it doesn't suit me, change jobs. There are many places where you can earn more. For example, as a courier, learn to be a welder, etc.

                  You know, recently on Telegram a guy in uniform was saying that if there are no migrants, workers from defense enterprises will become couriers, and who will work there then? Or the words of another character from the 90s - everyone go into business.
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          4. -1
            25 December 2024 16: 27
            So after the New Year, the holiday comes to us in the form of new price tags in stores.

            Stas, by the way... It is PROHIBITED to publicly advertise gasoline prices in Russia.
            I don't want to look for a link in the media - it's disgusting...
    2. -1
      30 December 2024 10: 31
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      It's even interesting whether there was anything that the "creator of meanings" Surkov touched, and that it didn't end up in "Abkhazian mining"

      We have too many of these same genius creators. All sorts of Karaganovs and other bearded philosophers cosplaying Mussolini. It wouldn't hurt to thin them out, otherwise at this rate Russia won't be able to export all these huge masses of meanings.
      1. +1
        30 December 2024 16: 41
        Something must happen so that all this fraternity is replaced by someone more practical for the people. Such nonsense as our expertise and meaning-bearers is simply impossible for the people's brain to withstand. Without "something like that" they certainly will not give up their food supply to anyone.
  4. +8
    25 December 2024 04: 53
    It's strange, no one rushes to blame the USSR for feeding the national republics at the expense of the Russian people. I don't understand anything and this is different?
    1. +6
      25 December 2024 04: 59
      Come on, it turns out that Laima Vaikule (her interview in some year) fed the USSR, and here is the whole of Abkhazia wassat
      1. +4
        25 December 2024 05: 04
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        Come on, it turns out that Laima Vaikule (her interview in some year) fed the USSR, and here is the whole of Abkhazia

        Exactly, how could I forget that I ate tangerine bread, tangerine sausage and meat, even tangerine cabbage soup, and all from Abkhazian tangerines! And twice a month my family received a transfer for all this from Aunt Laima! Give me back 1975!!!! laughing
        1. +5
          25 December 2024 05: 31
          Forgotten lemons! By the way, there were cool lemons, they say they are being brought to us, but I haven't seen them for a long time. Apparently they are being exchanged for bitcoin laughing
    2. +10
      25 December 2024 06: 15
      Everything is the same. Although the USSR collapsed, the vicious practice continues, which has already led to a war with Ukraine, but our government still cannot understand that we just need to stop paying them, introduce visas and conduct business in a way that is beneficial only to us.
      1. +6
        25 December 2024 06: 21
        Quote from: newtc7
        Everything is the same. Although the USSR collapsed, the vicious practice continues, which has already led to a war with Ukraine, but our government still cannot understand that we just need to stop paying them, introduce visas and conduct business in a way that is beneficial only to us.

        No, it's not the same, in the USSR at least the resources of the republics were exploited, both natural and labor, and at prices much lower than world prices. And now pay as on the market, and give money and other things as by old memory. It's not the same.
      2. +5
        25 December 2024 06: 59
        We just need to stop paying them, introduce visas and conduct business in a way that is beneficial only to us.

        Well, just like a little one. It is wrong to cause damage to businesses of respected people. The same respected Russian businessman S. Klemantovich rose on high-tech ferrous metals.
      3. 0
        25 December 2024 16: 34
        but our government still can't understand that they just need to stop paying them

        This is called "phantom pain" - the legs (or arms, no longer, but she still aches and hurts)...
    3. +3
      25 December 2024 08: 00
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Strange no one rushes to accuse USSR for feeding the national republics at the expense of the Russian people

      And they attack and accuse. It must be admitted that this was a distortion. A temporary distortion can be for the good. A permanent one - only for the harm. It was necessary to raise the republics, and then do it ourselves.

      And now, tell me, without distortions? Now the whole country feeds the rubber, where all financial flows are concentrated. And Muscovites proudly tell us that we live, they say, no worse than in Europe!
      1. +4
        25 December 2024 08: 19
        Quote: Stas157
        And they attack and accuse.

        Not in the comments to this article. There are no such raiders here, and those that are there are very modest.
        1. +2
          25 December 2024 16: 56
          There are no such raiders here, and those that are there behave very modestly.

          Here you are mistaken, Vladimir... on one of the "branches" of the discussion one "guy" was so zealous in favor of migrants, he justified a whole theory that they need to be "loved, appeased", because - "they are our future", without their "genotype" the nation will not survive... And other heresy... They tell him - "You have already got more than 300 minuses, calm down...", but he does not calm down... Apparently, he is not the only one, there are more important things than this, "not very smart" one...
          1. +2
            26 December 2024 03: 15
            Quote: Dingo
            Here you are mistaken, Vladimir... on one of the "branches" of the discussion one "guy" was so zealous in "support" of migrants, he substantiated a whole theory that they need to be "loved, appeased"

            You didn't quite get it, I'm talking about the accusers of the USSR. They don't even stick their noses into the comments to similar articles. And there are few defenders of migrants here, and I think they are professional "guardians" who defend migration for money today, and tomorrow will foam at the mouth and "resist" it.
  5. +7
    25 December 2024 05: 03
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    It's strange, no one rushes to blame the USSR for feeding the national republics at the expense of the Russian people. I don't understand anything and this is different?

    And what is wrong... smile how did 25 million Russians end up in the republics surrounding us
    ? ...and in the 90s, Russians began to be actively cut out, killed, expelled by local nationalists....this topic is hushed up in all media deliberately.
    As for Abkhazia, we need to deal with it the same way the Americans do.
    Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart.
    The Abkhazians are our brothers of course, but let them pay for their own desires out of their own pockets... and not at the expense of Ivanushka the Fool.
    1. +1
      25 December 2024 06: 00
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      What's wrong... smile how did 25 million Russians end up in the republics surrounding us

      Feeding them like pets, out of the kindness of one's heart, and exploiting natural resources and taking into account the natives of civilization, which is actually why the Russians migrated, are very different things.
      1. +2
        26 December 2024 00: 15
        The Americans destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the Japanese are absolutely in love with them.
    2. +5
      25 December 2024 06: 17
      What kind of brothers are these... as long as you pay for them, they may be a little like brothers, but as soon as you stop... it's funny, you really don't know what kind of people these are? What kind of "culture" is there? Why are "brothers" needed?
      1. +1
        25 December 2024 06: 18
        A friend of mine went there on holiday.
        She told me a lot of interesting things about local affairs. smile
        1. +7
          25 December 2024 06: 20
          For me to go to Abkhazia for a vacation, the Abkhazians must pay me decently. Otherwise, in my opinion, it's some kind of masochism
          1. +2
            25 December 2024 06: 22
            Don't rush there of course smile.
            God protects those who take care... the guards guard those who don't take care.
            Until the Abkhazians come to their senses, it’s not worth going there.
          2. -1
            25 December 2024 12: 34
            quite a great holiday..............
  6. +19
    25 December 2024 05: 33
    Somehow, I still haven't gotten used to dividing Georgians into their "subdivisions" by ethnic composition since Soviet times. For me, they were all Georgians. So, if Batumi is now shining and Sukhumi is in the mud, it doesn't mean that Georgians are hard workers and Abkhazians are lazy. No, both are equally lazy freeloaders. It's just that Batumi received huge subsidies from Turkey and the Turks made sure that those subsidies weren't stolen there, but in Sukhumi, Russia didn't make sure into whose pockets the Abkhazians had stuffed the free Russian subsidies and now the Abkhazians are screaming, "Russia, give us more freebies, but don't you dare stick your nose in here. Better build everything for us turnkey and hand it over to us for free!" And the fact that they drive Lexuses and Mercedes there, in Soviet times I saw the same video in the Georgian resort of Kobuleti. Gorgeous nature, just paradise, pigs practically roam freely around the city, all the local men are dirty, unshaven - but they all drive new "Zhiguli".
    So they are accustomed to freebies there and have been used to them since the times of the USSR. In the USSR, Georgia, and Abkhazia in general, lived three to four times richer than the RSFSR and, in general, richer than anywhere else in the Union. Although they produced three to four times less per person in the Georgian SSR than in the RSFSR. And in the stores there, in Brezhnev's time, sausage was freely available, just like in Tallinn or Riga. That's why people from Pskov and Kaliningrad went to Tallinn and Vilnius for sausage. Not because the Russians were lazy and couldn't grow and produce it themselves in the RSFSR, but because they gave what they grew and produced in the form of subsidies from the RSFSR to the Baltics and Georgia.
    Now about the criminal "authorities". Well, if you count all the "thieves in law" from the Brezhnev era to the present day, then three quarters of them are Georgians (I'm talking about the ethnic composition of Georgia) and Armenians... Well, then what do you want, that someone would now leave such a subsidized freebie for Abkhazia from Russia without a "roof" and without the supervision of thieves???
    1. +2
      25 December 2024 05: 58
      Well, this is just "Batumi shining" laughing - there is one unfinished construction there, they didn't finish it. Maybe they will finish it later, after all, a showcase was planned, but it's still a long way from "shine"
    2. +7
      25 December 2024 08: 31
      Quote: north 2
      If now Batumi is shining and Sukhumi is in the mud, it does not mean that Georgians are hard workers and Abkhazians are lazy

      I completely agree. This means that our policy towards Abkhazia was like this. Multipolar! Just like in Syria. We ensured victory for everyone. We were given money. We were recognized as equals. And then we were left to our own devices! Or maybe we shouldn't play this notorious multipolarity and independence? No one plays like that towards us.

      If you are pursuing a policy of protectionism towards a dependent state, then be kind enough to establish order there and protect your investments (good deeds done for that country).
    3. +2
      25 December 2024 18: 14
      North 2 (Vidas) - I absolutely agree! I was in Kutaisi in 85, at the commissioning of KAZ...
      There were guys from all over the Union working there, from all the automobile factories - GAZ, BelAZ, KAMAZ... Our group from VAZ...
      Not because the Russians were lazy and could not grow and produce in the RSFSR themselves, but because what they grew and produced was given away in the form of subsidies from the RSFSR to the Baltics and Georgia.

      Here we have sausage and butter by coupons, but there, in the grocery store by the station, you can get any kind - and as much as you want...
      All the local men are kind of dirty, unshaven - but they all drive new Zhiguli cars.

      In Gorky (and this is my "small homeland"), there probably weren't as many "Volgas" as in small Kutaisi... (The traffic police, at the legislative level, prohibited them from registering "Volgas" bought in the RSFSR or anywhere except Georgia)...
      ...The passion for freebies (and theft) is a separate story. They brought with them some tools and devices that they could take with them on the plane without checking them in (they left everything for them later)... A welder from our group welded a door, welded some kind of tricky lock into the door of the room where all this was stored...
      One morning we come to work - there are bent crowbars lying near the door, some kind of reinforcement bars... They couldn't break the door... There were no more attempts after our superiors reported to theirs - the operatives started "keeping an eye"...
      The beginning of December... Wind, rain - if from the mountains. In the tourist hotel "Khvamli", where we initially lived - everything is in the "tropical" version. Finger-sized gaps in the windows...
      In the recently completed dormitory opposite the factory entrance, where we later moved, it was terribly cold (the coils from the electric stoves in grooves cut into the limestone were the only "heater").
      We went home for the New Year. Again, for the second time, none of our engineers from the OE went there (we recruited a group of electrical mechanics, but not many, 10-12 people).
      Here, in brief. You can't write everything here - you can't tell everything.
  7. +13
    25 December 2024 05: 37
    Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.

    The Russian authorities need to think very carefully about their foreign policy in relation to their immediate surroundings, their immediate border areas. And about their future.
    Apart from "flooding with money" like in Chechnya, they can't do anything else and don't know how to do anything.
    All the former republics of the USSR "fell away" - and this is not only the work of the USA, but also the lack of any work by Russia.
    And now regions are “falling off” or trying to fall off.
  8. +9
    25 December 2024 05: 39
    I am becoming more and more convinced that our country's foreign policy is somehow wrong, all this kindness, justice, and help to other countries should be stuffed in one place and not remembered. And take the policy of our "dear" partners, ultimatums, conditions, threats, and money-cutting. And note that the same USA is not particularly kicked, the USA squeezes everything out of the same Japanese, and they are only happy, and there are many examples that can be given...
    1. +6
      25 December 2024 06: 18
      Good morning. How many years did it take you to see this obvious truth? It seems like everything was clear back in 2005-2007.
      1. +3
        25 December 2024 07: 07
        It seems like everything was clear back in 2005-2007.

        Much earlier, when they were squeezing out and cutting down the “occupiers”.
  9. +9
    25 December 2024 05: 45
    All events that have occurred and are occurring now on the territory of the CIS type must be considered from the point of view that on the territory of the former USSR, a Great Criminal Revolution took place, which continues to this day, and not from the ordinary point of view, I pay for the Mercedes of all the residents of Abkhazia... Then everything will fall into place.
  10. +9
    25 December 2024 05: 54
    Of course they will pay. Putin likes to pay his sacred cow - the CIS, with our money. The other day Mishustin said that he will pay 2.5 billion rubles for lunches in Armenian schools (Mishustin, by the way, Armenia, for those who don't know), so we will pay with this and we will pay with that. So that we can continue to be reviled and had by anyone who is not too lazy.
    A unique period in Russian history is underway - a voluntary yoke.
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    2. 0
      27 December 2024 08: 03
      Quote from: newtc7
      Of course they will pay. Putin likes to pay his sacred cow - the CIS, with our money. The other day Mishustin said that he will pay 2.5 billion rubles for lunches in Armenian schools (Mishustin, by the way, Armenia, for those who don't know), so we will pay with this and we will pay with that. So that we can continue to be reviled and had by anyone who is not too lazy.
      A unique period in Russian history is underway - a voluntary yoke.

      By the way, they wrote in Telegram that when the film "Brother" was shown on TV, they cut out the phrase "G.... and black-assed" and several other expressions
  11. +3
    25 December 2024 05: 55
    "We are for Russia, so give us everything we need"
    Congenially! wink
  12. +10
    25 December 2024 06: 19
    This whole Caucasus is complete crap
  13. +4
    25 December 2024 07: 01
    eeee why did he turn off our electricity he is paying us before we fought for free stuff and you are so bad why do this brother let Kuban pay for electricity))
  14. +4
    25 December 2024 07: 11
    Some kind of propaganda of the collapse of everything and everyone. First, no one is involved in foreign policy. And then why don't they like us.
    The fact is that neither Russian businessmen nor Russian officials want to invest in anything, to have everything for free since the 90s. So they gave away Ukraine, Armenia, and now they are giving Abkhazia to America.
  15. +5
    25 December 2024 07: 20
    For the sake of ephemeral "friendship", Russia will pay again. Both pensions and electricity, although what kind of friendship this is and how it is manifested on the part of the Abkhazians is still unclear.
    1. +2
      25 December 2024 07: 43
      I also wonder why Russia needs to be friends with the region in which you live!
      1. +2
        25 December 2024 07: 45
        Well, if Russia doesn't want to be friends with the Tyumen region..., and you should suffer less from paranoia laughing
        1. 0
          25 December 2024 07: 56
          Just as an example. Imagine if Tyumen were to separate, in how many years would you become non-brothers?
          There was such a 16th republic in the USSR. Karelo-Finnish, if it had not been included in the RSFSR in 1956. Now it would have been a separate state. Like Ukraine or Abkhazia. Maybe it would have even joined NATO. So everything is conditional.
          And you can earn no less on Abkhazia than on Tyumen oil.
          1. 0
            26 December 2024 00: 25
            don't bother me... = she's already funny.
            Tyumen oil is the largest oil and gas reserves in Russia, discovered in the West Siberian oil and gas basin in the 1950s–1970s and providing the main income for the USSR and two-thirds of the Russian Federation’s income from hydrocarbon exports.
    2. +1
      25 December 2024 07: 52
      Roughly speaking, we pay them so that Türkiye doesn’t come there.
      Recently M. Simonyan, speaking about the situation with Abkhazia (in the sense that it cannot be lost) reminded that from the Abkhazian border to Sochi it is only a few minutes walk...
      Another thing is that in any case, the current state of affairs cannot suit Russia. Systematic work was needed with those who could potentially come to power in Abkhazia. To grow (by any methods and means) their own people and, if possible, remove from power (or simply remove) undesirable characters. The policy of non-interference gives a negative result.
      1. +1
        25 December 2024 08: 23
        from the Abkhazian border to Sochi it's just a few minutes' walk...

        And how long does it take to get from the Finnish border to St. Petersburg? And we don't seem to be feeding Finland with free stuff. Well, Turkey will be a step away from Sochi. With the money that is now pouring into Abkhazia, we can create a new military district in Kuban and sleep peacefully.
        1. 0
          25 December 2024 08: 34
          It's a minimum of three hours to go, not walk. The distances are incomparable. You can get from Abkhazia to Sochi from the PTU.
          This does not mean that this state of affairs should continue.
          1. +5
            25 December 2024 08: 42
            If you demonstrate your weakness to a Caucasian (and a freebie is a demonstration of weakness), then he will definitely demonstrate his strength. An ATGM in the hands of an Abkhaz is no better than in the hands of a Turk. By the way, there is also something to shoot from Finland at our territory. For some reason, they don't shoot.
            1. +4
              25 December 2024 09: 08
              This does not mean that we can ignore the fact that the Abkhazian border is close to Sochi.
              Abkhazia, although tiny, is a buffer. I repeat once again, we need to grow a pro-Russian elite, create agents of influence, remove (figuratively and literally) those who are incapable of reaching an agreement. Our opponents build their policies in the countries they need in this way, why is such a method bad if it is directed to our advantage?
              1. +3
                25 December 2024 09: 15
                Yes, I agree with you in that we need to influence the environment somehow. Raise loyal politicians? Yes. Trade, cooperate, be friends... But not with the methods that are happening now. I don't want to pull the yoke until I'm 65 because Abkhazian grandfathers want to eat. And no one gives me electricity for free. There is no ability to manage the colony with sound methods - that means we need to abandon it. The Turks are already in full control in Azerbaijan. So what? We have weakened greatly since the time when we could hold half the world in our hands. We should keep our own.
                1. +1
                  25 December 2024 09: 34
                  Up to 65 years, this is an order from the IMF. The West will order to take Abkhazia. They will take it immediately and find a justification. But they are too lazy...
              2. 0
                25 December 2024 09: 32
                It is necessary to cultivate a pro-Russian elite, create agents of influence, and remove (figuratively and literally) those who are incapable of reaching an agreement.
                good
                Okay, the Kremlin boys don't need this. But here, the majority of supposed patriots refuse for some reason.
              3. 0
                25 December 2024 15: 46
                The fact that ours don't know how to do it, can't, don't want to - choose any. There's only one capable of it - to pour money and shout about the friendship of nations.
                This whole story with buffers is already pretty boring, NATO is 100 km away from St. Petersburg and so what? Will they attack? No, they directly said that they will not fight with Russia because of nuclear weapons, so it makes no difference at all whether there is a NATO base in Bulgaria or in Abkhazia. Because our government wants to have this buffer to the point of impossibility - they hook it and push it on this desire, but in fact the policy of "buffers" has exhausted itself after the advent of nuclear ballistics.
                And also the pro-Russian elite is only about “give me money”, the pro-Russian elite could be different - but we don’t have it even within the country, so it’s impossible to cultivate it in other countries.
      2. +2
        25 December 2024 15: 24
        When I hear the word systemic work, for some reason corruption schemes immediately start to appear in my head... I suspect that in our case it would be better not to have systemic work on the part of the state (and this is always corruption, deals and all sorts of pilaf festivals at our expense) but some sharp sobering actions. To turn the situation upside down
        1. +3
          25 December 2024 15: 31
          Perhaps you are right. I meant, first of all, the systematic work of the special services. Let there be a "son of a bitch" in a neighboring country, but he would be our son of a bitch.
          1. +1
            25 December 2024 17: 15
            So it looks like someone is forbidding our special services to work in the CIS countries - like partners and all that. Or it looks like there is no work. Even take Ukraine - how could they in their right minds think that if they take Kyiv, the Ukrainians will immediately surrender? That it wasn't so obvious to anyone on the couch, but not to them - which means there were either no agents there, or they weren't really ours.
            1. +2
              25 December 2024 17: 57
              "How could they, in their right minds, think that they would take Kyiv and the Ukrainians would immediately surrender? That it wasn't so obvious to anyone on the couch, but not to them - which means that either there were no agents there, or they weren't really ours"
              Oh, you reminded me... It's a shame to be so unaware. Although, maybe Naryshkin did know something, which is why he looked and spoke so terribly when making the decision on the SVO...
    3. +5
      25 December 2024 13: 19
      But our people were forced to work an extra 5 years before retirement. I wonder where the saved money went?
  16. +1
    25 December 2024 07: 43
    Whoever treats the girl gets to dance with her.
    These small but proud states, by their behavior, resemble a girl who wants to eat well, but when it comes to dancing, quickly runs away under the pretext of "powdering her nose."
    It's just a pity for the common people...
    1. +2
      25 December 2024 08: 21
      the common people there are not like our common people) there the people are the state itself. Do you think the former president was kicked out of his native village by the mercenaries of the Argentine intelligence)? No, there the people decide who sits in the palace and who divides the commons, they are all related to each other there
    2. 0
      25 December 2024 17: 17
      A strange saying. Girls generally like strong alpha males and not the one who pays her bills. The comparison is actually good, we pay for the entire CIS - and they are still drawn to the USA, Turkey and Britain to the strong ones, who do not pay for them at all.
  17. +1
    25 December 2024 07: 43
    And the logic here is simple and clear, the situation is like with Transnistria, if you use these national republics as a lever of pressure on large countries (Georgia, Moldova), then be so kind as to fork out and pay for them.
    1. +1
      25 December 2024 20: 31
      Well, for now it works as a lever of pressure on us, constant threats to Transnistria from Moldova, the complete impossibility of somehow stopping them... constant handouts to Abkhazia without any influence on Georgia. Yes, Georgians are not choosing NATO now, but not at all because they love Russia so much, but simply because they have sensibly decided that they don't need this game of "hit Russia and die"
      1. 0
        25 December 2024 20: 37
        Well, for now it works as a lever of pressure on us, constant threats to Transnistria from Moldova

        Well, how can I say, the level of support for Russia in Moldova grew quite strongly before the war (due to a decline in the standard of living), and the $700 million debt of Transnistria for gas was used as a lever, which was remembered immediately after the replacement of the pro-Russian Dodon with the pro-European Sandu.
        1. -1
          26 December 2024 13: 01
          As practice shows, such debts are bullshit and not a lever. It was possible to use a sum 10 times smaller to create pro-Russian NGOs and bribe the necessary politicians and the result would be better, since these 700 million in fact are owed by "everyone but no one in particular"...
          However, Moldovans initially have a good attitude towards Russians; in many ways they are truly our brothers and sisters - Orthodox Christians, half Slavs; it should be relatively easy for us to play on their field.
          And it would be possible to build some normal relations with the Romanians, the attitude towards Russia among the population there is also not bad at all, they are also Orthodox Christians. But for all this you need to play soft power, and our government does not know how to play soft power
  18. +1
    25 December 2024 07: 43
    We need to raise pro-Russian politicians (and businessmen) who will pursue pro-Russian policies not in words but in deeds.
    To exert influence from within, through sincere or bought agents of influence. The methods of influence are, in principle, all known, the question is whether something is being done or whether we rely only on the consciousness of the citizens of Abkhazia...
  19. +3
    25 December 2024 07: 46
    They had a very strange scheme in their heads: “We are for Russia, so give us everything we need.”

    Abkhazia has someone to follow as an example.
  20. -2
    25 December 2024 07: 54
    I didn't read it. Skomorokhov's articles on political topics, and this is exactly what they are, are very weak, it's not his topic. But he still writes them periodically, going beyond his military-technical topics
  21. +4
    25 December 2024 08: 06
    Zadornov M.M. once said that everything is like in a prison zone. If you look at the events from the prison point of view, it turns out the following. Once the Big Boss stood up for the boys in front of another Boss. He took the boys under his protection, they promised to pay, but there was nothing to pay with. The Big Boss began to give them money for development, with the condition that some percentage of the business was his. The boys threw the Boss and had showdowns among themselves. The Boss's patience snapped and he offered the boys to buy their business, but not all the boys agreed. Since there was a danger that the boys who disagreed might go to the previous Boss, the Big Boss took action. That's basically all you need to know about the events in Abkhazia
    1. 0
      25 December 2024 20: 33
      If the analogy were correct, then it would have been high time to put a couple of “lads” to death, so that the rest would understand who is the boss. And not continue to fawn over them.
  22. +7
    25 December 2024 08: 18
    To what extent will Moscow even want to engage in dialogue with a criminal?

    And Pushilin and Kadyrov - are they something else?
  23. +1
    25 December 2024 08: 25
    Abkhazia is not even a country, but a large tribe living at the expense of its neighbor.
    It seems that more or less adequate authorities have come to Georgia, well, let's hint to them to take Abkhazia under their control.
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    2. 0
      27 December 2024 08: 12
      Quote: Vladislav Markov_2
      Abkhazia is not even a country, but a large tribe living at the expense of its neighbor.
      It seems that more or less adequate authorities have come to Georgia, well, let's hint to them to take Abkhazia under their control.

      Firstly, it is too late to back down now, we just need to talk tough with Abkhazia itself, without giving in to provocative ultimatums like “then we will turn off the electricity in schools.”
      Secondly, today Georgia has one government, and tomorrow another.
  24. +1
    25 December 2024 08: 44
    The ending was amusing.
    "Everyone I met from there was very educated and erudite."
  25. -2
    25 December 2024 08: 57
    Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.

    I think that our media is very often used by the US/UK to incite ethnic hatred with the aim of depriving Russia of friendly relations with its neighbors.
    The harm caused by such articles is not compensated by the ridiculous savings achieved in the Russian budget.
    On the contrary, the Americans' capture of our former friends into their orbit leads to the creation of new enemies of ours. With grave consequences for the country's security and for the budget.
    1. +2
      25 December 2024 09: 10
      A recent example is Armenia. An older one is Ukraine.
  26. +1
    25 December 2024 09: 27
    We need to be less emotional and count other people's money in other people's pockets... it's important to us that we get paid in full and on time.
    and so - in general - yes, energy prices are at a commercial level, no "brotherly-unbrotherly" relations...
    just calm business. We pay - we deliver, no - well, no...
    they will be able to "crypto-mine" under market conditions and buy the notorious Mercedes - it's their business.

    and if Georgia decides to "reintegrate" - well, let it commit genocide and then clean it up...
    those who already have a Russian passport (well, they handed them out en masse, yeah, right) - give them asylum, but that's all...
    1. 0
      25 December 2024 15: 44
      so that we get paid in full and on time.
      Who to us? Are you a co-owner of RAO ES? If so, that's a different matter.
  27. +3
    25 December 2024 09: 31
    Yes, they have been living like this all over the Caucasus since time immemorial(( Russia has always paid the local tsars for peace, and if they got too far, it came to "pacify" them. This is our ulcer in the underbelly(( By the way, the locals there don't get it, that if Russia leaves there, the Turks will "genocide" them all, if not immediately, then gradually, like the Americans did the Indians
  28. +6
    25 December 2024 09: 54
    If it weren't for the huge expenses on the SVO, they would have continued to carry all this dark-skinned brotherhood on their neck. Our Most Insightful One is never averse to making a speech about "brotherly nations". The Japanese pay America for American bases in Japan. Like - for protection. Trump is now taking Europe for Faberge, so that they not only pay 2,5 times more for defense (i.e. the American military-industrial complex), but also buy exclusively American gas and oil. He casually attacked Canada. And for some reason, not a single US president has a thought in his head about some "brotherly nations", about having to carry all this crowd on his neck. And our foreign policy is assessed by our media by how wittily Lavrov or Zakharova said something somewhere. Just like KVN for you. Or "another machination of imperialism" exposed to us. And I keep thinking - when will we hear about our machinations anywhere? For example, about a pro-Russian color revolution. The situation was very suitable in Romania, with their cancelled elections. And in Moldova all the conditions for this are there. But no! We will go another way! And in general, Russia is not like that, it is waiting for a tram.
    In the economy, our "effective managers" can effectively pump gas and oil and sell them to our competitors, and even enemies. Just like in the USSR, we produce very few of our own, domestic consumer goods. We buy Chinese and Turkish consumer goods. And China rose on this consumer goods. Now we fawn before them. Down jackets, sneakers, other clothes. These were powerful tax revenues to the treasury. We should at least take an example now and start developing light industry, the production of consumer goods, in order to finally get off this oil needle. Because even hammers and screwdrivers are now Chinese. But our managers are too "effective" for that. For them, it is not a royal business to produce rags.
    And our Duma has again figured out where to get money. It's simple, as always - increase fines. They would have increased salaries by the same amount, by one and a half times at once. But no - the people will get spoiled, live well, and stop respecting their superiors. They won't go to the Tsar-father with requests. And that's not good. But so that there would be something to worry about, and save on expenses, bring in migrants. You see, the demographics will become more beautiful if those migrants are given Russian passports. And the Abkhazians too. Like - we will have influence there. And what influence, the Abkhazians have shown. The money, they say, is yours, give it to us here, but you yourselves - can't, we know you, oligarchs. And what for the money? So that we do not cease to be a brotherly people.
  29. +2
    25 December 2024 09: 58
    It would be interesting to know how, for example, Turkey pays for the supply of Russian resources - well, here's how - well, here's how - "The trade turnover between the two countries, according to the Turkish statistical service, decreased by 2023 times by the end of 1,2, to almost 57 billion dollars. Of these, 46 billion were Russia's exports to Turkey, and 11 billion were Turkey's exports to the Russian Federation."
    That is, Turkey’s negative balance for 2023 is -35 billion dollars.
    The conclusion is what will happen if Abkhazia is deprived of the Russian tit - nothing will happen - it will also receive our resources, but from its friend Erdogan.
    This is the dilemma.
    In general, it would be better to deprive Moscowabad of resources, at least the Abkhazians have a sea, but what about the Moscowabadians? Nothing - the same idlers and parasites, only in greater numbers.
  30. +3
    25 December 2024 10: 02
    I wonder how much the listed “strategic partners” pay to their Moscow curators?
    for free, no one would give them money, and their business would not be closed.

    Scandals with the embezzlement of Russian money began there, according to the media, even before the SVO. And the cart is still there.
    So it's profitable for someone. The kickbacks are pretty good, apparently.
  31. +1
    25 December 2024 10: 05
    To live by the laws and tariffs of the Russian Federation, to receive pensions of the Russian Federation, you must be a subject of the Russian Federation. It's simple. Don't want to or don't want to be in the Russian Federation? That means it's very convenient for someone in the Russian Federation. After all, in the new year the Russian authorities can come to an agreement with the new Georgian government and surrender Abkhazia
  32. +5
    25 December 2024 10: 07
    Quote: Stepnyak
    And how long does it take to get from the Finnish border to St. Petersburg? And we don't seem to be feeding Finland with free stuff.

    And how the Russian Federation fed the Finns about 80 billion over 20 years.
  33. +1
    25 December 2024 10: 38
    Finally, this parasitic enclave, filled to the brim with bandits and other national elements driven mad by impunity, is deprived of a significant portion of funding from the Russian budget!
    The main reason for removing cheburek lovers from the allowance is the steady trend towards the growth of parasitic insolence of the local population and life according to the principle - "Russians, give us money and don't ask where and why, we will live here according to our own laws the way we want."
    I have dozens of stories about how Russian idiots went to Abkhazia to vacation and were left there without money and without health, because the locals, to put it mildly, do not like Russians.
    Moreover, even if someone is caught who beats, kills, rapes Russians, in 9 cases out of 10 nothing happens to them for it. The maximum is a written undertaking not to leave the country and then a suspended sentence.
    https://www.interfax.ru/world/463212
    https://ura.news/articles/1036271525
    https://ngs55.ru/text/incidents/2021/06/16/69971600/
    etc. etc.

    I hope that our undoubtedly brilliant in every sense leader of the Russian nation will have enough balls (and not as usual) to push through this national misunderstanding.
  34. +1
    25 December 2024 11: 07
    Why was the referendum on joining Russia in 2022 together with the DPR cancelled? After all, the head of Abkhazia wanted to hold a referendum. Who initiated the cancellation?
  35. mz
    +6
    25 December 2024 11: 15
    The article is correct, but the Russian government officials have a different opinion;
    "Russia to begin humanitarian supplies of electricity to Abkhazia"
    https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2024/12/22/20283062.shtml?ysclid=m53m70dolk997635129
    "Abkhazia announced the start of humanitarian supplies of electricity from Russia"
    https://ria.ru/20241223/rossija-1990774154.html?ysclid=m53mb962xc556924551
    And the residents of the Russian Federation will pay for all of this, as their electricity tariffs will increase by 12-15% starting in the new year.
    Wise and effective decisions by the Russian authorities!
    1. +2
      25 December 2024 13: 11
      Because let their own people suffer until they start making a fuss.
  36. +7
    25 December 2024 11: 53
    What a stupid, senseless foreign policy our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and government have, there are simply no words.
  37. +3
    25 December 2024 12: 09
    We need to help the brothers... Otherwise NATA will come, and in general... While we are grinding the brothers, the brothers are lining up for help smile
  38. -2
    25 December 2024 12: 35
    tangerines cost exactly 50 rubles now
  39. +3
    25 December 2024 13: 10
    It's time to excommunicate all corrupt hangers-on from the Russian budget. They don't care who they swear their love to, as long as the freebies don't end.
  40. +1
    25 December 2024 14: 47
    So, according to the law, we in the Caucasus will be prohibited from mining for our own money, but they can do it for free?
    After the energy reform, red power plants are almost never built, since private companies must now do this.
  41. +1
    25 December 2024 15: 34
    The Russian Federation needs to think about why the territory where budget money goes does not correspond to the interests of the Russian Federation in this region according to the law?
  42. 0
    25 December 2024 17: 15
    Abkhazians need to think very carefully about their future. And make the right choice.

    Everything is fine with them. They gave us free electricity, we can continue mining.
    In fact, as long as we remain weaklings, we will remain weaklings in everything, in the North-East, with the red lines, in Syria, in Abkhazia. request
  43. +1
    25 December 2024 23: 55
    And here is this strange situation when we are brothers,

    Again "we are brothers"! What the hell is this for? To conclude agreements for the lease of a port, military bases and that's it. No money. And no Russian passports for those who live on the territory of Abkhazia.
  44. +2
    26 December 2024 07: 01
    It is urgent to treat this small but very proud people...
    Hunger and cold... They just became insolent.
    And if it doesn't help, then return Abkhazia to Georgia. Georgia will immediately teach Abkhazians to love Russia
  45. +1
    26 December 2024 14: 54
    Abkhazia lives in a strange way. Of course, we need to stop providing electricity for free! And generally bring order to our relationships!
  46. +1
    26 December 2024 16: 03
    Just from myself. I love Abkhazia and its people. I don't want Abkhazia to become a second Sochi, but on the other hand, I want Russians (citizens of the Russian Federation) to have the right to protect their property and investments, especially since in fact they are supported by us. While the SVO is going on, a compromise is needed. Now they are disappointed about the end of free electricity supplies (now, however, they have met them halfway). But if the changing clans that appoint presidents in the "Country of Soul" continue to ignore the reality of dependence on Russia and not draw conclusions (at least to adopt this unfortunate law on our investments), then after the end of the SVO, they will be even more disappointed. We are not Georgia, we are not losing.
  47. 0
    26 December 2024 16: 19
    In fact, it is hardly possible to be friends with both Georgia and Abkhazia. I have been to Abkhazia several times, there are very few expensive cars there - mostly either old foreign cars or middle-aged right-hand drive Japanese cars, and I have not seen any expensive toys for children. Unfortunately, Abkhazia is an extremely poor country.
  48. 0
    26 December 2024 17: 28
    Electricity was given to Abkhazia "for free". Mass cryptocurrency mining in Abkhazia will continue. So, probably, there is a lot of electricity in Russia? Here are the facts:
    "The Cabinet of Ministers is introducing a "ban on digital currency mining, including participation in a mining pool (an association of miners - TASS note)" in Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachay-Cherkessia, North Ossetia, Chechnya, the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, and in the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions, the resolution says.

    In addition, mining will be banned in some areas of the Irkutsk Region, Buryatia and the Zabaikalsky Krai, but temporarily - during peak energy consumption. In 2025, they fall on the period from January 1 to March 15, and in the following years - from November 15 to March 15.

    As the Cabinet of Ministers explained to TASS, the list of regions and territories is not final: it can be adjusted based on the decisions of the government commission on issues of electric power development. The goal of such restrictions is to maintain the balance of energy consumption taking into account the demands of industry."
    Draw your own conclusions from all this, but I am sure that the same Dagestanis, for example, will not be delighted with such a “multi-move game”.
  49. 0
    26 December 2024 20: 43
    Analyzing what has been written about Abkhazia recently, and the essence of Roman Skomorokhov's note, if briefly and to the point: with such friends - strategic partners - there is no need for enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!! Abkhazia, for Russia, is like Guatemala for the USA and all of Latin America...
  50. -1
    26 December 2024 20: 52
    We, inside Russia, by the way, are also for Russia. Give us free electricity and a local sovereign parliament
  51. 0
    28 December 2024 09: 29
    There is no need to invent anything, help the Georgians become a friendly country and return Abkhazia to its bosom. The Georgians know their mentality better and will quickly restore order. I was in Abkhazia before 08.08.08. Horror! Ritsa was polluted with their shashlik taverns, as well as the beaches by the sea. Sewage flows along the beach straight into the sea. Local groups control access to the sights. The New Athos Monastery was completely ruined. It is difficult to call this formation a country.
  52. 0
    28 December 2024 18: 03
    Why should RUSSIA worry about their kindergartens and hospitals? Let them think about it themselves.
  53. 0
    28 December 2024 20: 23
    Abkhazians need to work, not sit on others' necks.
  54. 0
    30 December 2024 17: 20
    Russia needs to take a 40-year lease on part of Abkhazia's territory from Adler to Pitsunda inclusively, in exchange for the 49 billion rubles paid to Abkhazia, with the introduction of the rule of Russian law and Russian laws there. Why should we lose our money?
    The border will be guarded by Russian military.
    And in the rest of Abkhazia, let the free Abkhazians live as they want...
  55. 0
    30 December 2024 22: 00
    I wonder - what would happen if some region of the Russian Federation asked for free electricity?
  56. 0
    31 December 2024 13: 59
    You can calculate the republic's electricity needs, subtract its own production and supply the difference at domestic Russian rates. I pay about 6 rubles per kW, well, that's about the price. Ban mining by law. That's it, the issue is closed. If you drive a car, 6 rubles per kW is not a problem. So it's all very simple, you need to be able to defend your interests.