Infusion of grants and loans into the fragments of the USSR. What is the difference between Russian money and others?

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It’s no secret what price the decisive reversal of Kyrgyzstan was bought in the direction of Russia four years ago, even with the previous president Kurmanbek Bakiyev. Moscow provided Bishkek with a soft loan of $ 300 million, $ 1,7 billion for hydropower, $ 150 million of gratuitous assistance. If we consider that the Americans at that time spent about $ 150 million per year on all their programs in Kyrgyzstan ... In general, the fate of the American airbase “Manas” was quickly resolved.

However, such a sharp increase in the stakes in the game did not go unnoticed: other interested parties also multiplied their investments in control over Bishkek.

After 2009, a rapidly increasing dynamic is seen.

Here are fragmentary some loans and grants for 2012 year:

- Chinese loan - $ 389 million

- Chinese loan - $ 129,8 million

- Turkey loan - $ 100 million

- Turkey grant - $ 6 million

- loan and grant of the Asian Bank for Reconstruction and Development - $ 55 million

Now the experts of the International Monetary Fund recommend that the government of Kyrygizia should abandon conventional loans altogether, and take only preferential (almost zero percent, 5 – 10 years of deferment) along with grants. Yes, with so many sentences you can and sort out.

Moscow, however, went even further.

In 2012, with the signing of an agreement on the stay in Kyrgyzstan of the Russian military base, an agreement was reached on new loans and the cancellation of old debts - almost half a billion dollars.

How long can the attraction of unprecedented generosity last? Should Russia constantly finance all potential members of the Customs Union?

Bolivar will not take out and should not

In fairness it should be noted that loans and grants are not only and not so much to bribe local elites. Kyrgyzstan really is in a very difficult position. To the extent that without foreign assistance, the population of the country risks being on the verge of real hunger. One can argue about the true goals of various grantors and lenders of Kyrgyzstan, but the Customs Union is most interested in the economic development of the country.

Yes, theoretically, Russia can finance a relatively small Kyrgyzstan, both for the sake of security on the southern border, and for other reasons. Especially, if in the future (again, theoretically) to share this financial burden with partners in the Customs Union. But the ambitions of the vehicle are not limited to the accession of Kyrgyzstan alone. There is also Tajikistan. There are also Armenia and Moldova. There is, finally, Ukraine, 46 of millions of whose population even the EU would be afraid to take on.

How much will the possible transformation of our “Eurasian economy” into collective Kirghizia cost? The ability to manipulate the degraded fragments of the once united country is unlikely to provide Moscow with sufficient moral consolation.

And even vice versa. The union will be justified and mutually beneficial only if its member countries have an approximately comparable level of development. As a matter of fact, only such a Union is needed. Kyrgyzstan also needs another. The current state of the economy, when GDP per capita is twelve (at par) or five (at purchasing power parity) times less than that of neighboring Kazakhstan, is unacceptable for real integration.

Financial assistance should be aimed at solving this particular problem. And while this is happening.

Priority is given to the energy sector of Kyrgyzstan (the foundation of the economy) and the military (basis of stability). The remaining part goes to closing the financial holes of the budget (otherwise, just collapse).

Features of grant loans from the World Bank

The World Bank, whose headquarters will definitely never live with Kyrgyzstan in the same economic and political space, can afford projects of a different kind. Beautifully sounding, but far from the real development of the country.

Thus, the next WB loan, approved in March of this year, will be aimed at modernizing the education system. Nine million dollars in a soft loan and more than seven million dollars in a grant will be spent on improving the management and accountability of schools. And even earlier, the WB gave grant loans for training local government employees in the basics of budget planning, for connecting rural residents to the water supply system, for repairing classes in schools ...

All this is useful and necessary.

But the main feature of such projects is that they have a good ratio between the finances spent and the total number of beneficiaries. Tens of thousands of people are involved in joint activities, propagating something or repairing something. According to reports from the same World Bank, on his initiative from 2006, only in the agricultural sector of Kyrgyzstan 6000 micro-projects were implemented, 70900 officials were involved, 1698 villages were favorably received.

Such democratic projects buy the loyalty of the masses. A million dollars - a thousand supporters, a billion dollars - a million supporters.

Moscow is often reproached with a small number of such grants in the national outskirts. Of course, this concerns not only Kyrgyzstan, but the entire post-Soviet space. Like, sorry, or what? Look at how your competitors work: the media, government, and public organizations do not miss anything. And the result is obvious. But only this result often gives nothing but personal gain and a pleasant feeling of the work performed on the performer’s soul. Loan with a ten-year delay in the development of the Bologna system in Kyrgyzstan? Isn't it funny?

Yes, you can buy media, change public opinion, improve attitudes towards the Russian language and achieve some other successes in the humanitarian sphere. Not only in Kyrgyzstan, Moldova or Ukraine, but even, probably, in Georgia.

But fundamentally, the question of the integration of the republics of the former USSR will be solved in the course of other projects - industrial, military.

By and large determine the economic future of the country.
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  1. amp
    amp
    +7
    20 March 2013 14: 07
    That is, we must pay Kyrgyzstan and the rest so that they do not pose a danger to us? Strongly reminiscent of paying tribute to the Golden Horde.
    1. +5
      20 March 2013 15: 29
      Loans will destroy the world ...
      1. +11
        20 March 2013 15: 34
        Quote: amp
        Strongly reminiscent of paying tribute to the Golden Horde.

        This is very similar to volunteers feeding strollers on the street. Everyone knows that it would be best to give a stroller work, housing and he will be able to feed himself. But neither volunteers can give this, and the tramp doesn’t really want to, because he’s used to it. So they feed and will always feed, the only problem is that over time the tramp, who at first was glad of any food, begins to resent the composition of the menu and the quality of the food. request
      2. +4
        20 March 2013 15: 42
        ShturmKGB
        Loans will destroy the world ...


        This world will be destroyed by usurers, we will find out for that, and what would be the new World without them. lol
        1. +1
          20 March 2013 16: 09
          Affordable... laughing
      3. 0
        21 March 2013 06: 43
        Late Batenka, as they say the patient died, and who is alive, he is convulsed)))
    2. +2
      20 March 2013 16: 23
      Quote: amp

      That is, we must pay Kyrgyzstan and the rest so that they do not pose a danger to us? Strongly reminiscent of paying tribute to the Golden Horde.

      At least Russia has an interest in four facilities located on the territory of Kyrgyzstan, plus gold deposits.
    3. +2
      20 March 2013 17: 34
      Quote: amp
      Strongly reminiscent of paying tribute to the Golden Horde.


      There desetina was for the maintenance of the Army.
      And here 100% extortion for our strategic interests.
      $ 1,7 billion for hydropower- the main thing is that the Egyptians would not throw after the construction of the Aswan Dam. And so a frustrating commercial project.
      The Canal will also be built from the Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf and the USSR will also experience total ecstasy.
    4. +5
      20 March 2013 18: 15
      And I always said and I will say, there is nothing to pay money to parasites! We need to raise our country, raise the population to 500 000 000 Russians, upgrade nuclear weapons, close the border to the castle and everything, the whole economy to the domestic market and redirect everything. To shoot the migrants at the border, and if the terrorists climb, then cover everyone with Iskanders, Nehru, through their own country, let the terrorists through. And let these parasites kill each other, there will be a threat for us to cover with nuclear weapons, and who do not like their problems, we can treat others as well, so as not to be outraged. You need to be tougher, no one will defend against nuclear weapons, neither the United States nor Europe, even their 100% missile defense will not provide protection, so while there are nuclear weapons you need to do everything to strengthen your country and drive out all Tajiks and others like them, there are Belarusians, with them and we will be friends, they never turned away from us, and the rest on the side. Send to hell all the embassies and all.
      1. Bubo
        +1
        21 March 2013 06: 20
        Very radical, and apparently very effective, I personally put you a plus. Only I have a small question, and what to do with non-Russian local violence, why am I asking, worrying about national minorities, since I myself am their representative.
        Do not get me wrong, just your speeches and ava with such a brave Rusich are somehow alarming, but will you break into the national ....
      2. 0
        21 March 2013 06: 50
        Quote: Joker
        And I always said and will say, there is nothing to pay money to parasites!

        You are wrong, these are our neighbors. Well, their fate is such a weak economy, there is no livelihood, well, and one way out, sell yourself more expensive. Someone sells knowledge, someone skills, and someone offers friendship to buy. As a result, we are the winners. What for us these bases of Yusiya, at hand? So they overlaid us from all sides, with their presence. So we buy relative calm on our borders, it is said that it is better to protect our territory outside our borders. As is the case with Syria.
      3. Batkamahno
        0
        21 March 2013 10: 21
        The problem is different. Everything would be fine here, but if our neighbors are not supported, then they, as a state, can completely collapse. And to have a mess on the border, as a neighbor of a drug addict. It seems that everything is fine at home, but someone is crap under the door. And look at him in the back and stick a knife. This is philistine, and so on the example of countries, an example of Syria. A sea of ​​mercenaries for little money. And you can’t close the border so long on the castle. The Chinese, too, were building a wall, the state was ruined. The result is zero. Yes, and 500 million Russians with such drug trafficking as now is a problem. In addition, there is an example of a completely closed state with 000% national composition. Pay attention to North Korea. Yes, and they have nuclear weapons))) and threaten them all. That's just the life of ordinary people as it is not very
    5. avt
      0
      20 March 2013 18: 34
      Quote: amp
      That is, we must pay Kyrgyzstan and the rest so that they do not pose a danger to us? Strongly reminiscent of paying tribute to the Golden Horde.

      This is characteristic of all the former republics, declaring sovereignty they really believed that they are equal partners. Well, in addition to business interests and our internal problems, we still have a relic of international education. The Russian Bolsheviks too internationalized too. And in the courtyard of capitalism, it’s high time to take the example of Amer. They change presumptuous presumptuous overwhelmed by their own greatness as used condoms. You don’t have to go far, look at Shevarnadze — he got a kick and emigrated to Russia. But what about Kravchuk and Kuchma? Yes, and actually Yushchenko? Just do not say that he failed in the elections in Ukraine, over at the previous all of them were forced to vote exactly until Shrek became president. So everything is simple here, there is nothing to pickle here, especially when Rakhmon-Lokum wanders, does not ratify the agreement on the base, sets conditions. Give Badokhshan Karmatians his head to tear off - the next one will be more accommodating, and not understand, the new one will be.
    6. Avenger711
      0
      20 March 2013 18: 42
      Or occupy with incomprehensible consequences and srach for the whole world.
      1. avt
        +1
        20 March 2013 18: 48
        Quote: Avenger711
        Or occupy with incomprehensible consequences and srach for the whole world.

        And who speaks for the occupation? request You yes, I don’t. laughing I repeat, we need to take an example from Amer in such matters and educate the chief officers in the spirit of democracy and capitalism, if they do not understand the words, according to the prescription of academician Pavlov by working out reflexes, but again if they borrowed money. laughing
  2. +5
    20 March 2013 15: 40
    no, gentlemen, everything is much simpler. These small under-states, taking advantage of their geographical strategic position, behave like prostitutes. who will pay more for that and will lie. here the price is growing, as there are too many buyers. Given that they are next to us, we have to buy them at the suggested price, given the same fact, the United States (in order to spoil us) should also buy them
    1. djon3volta
      +4
      20 March 2013 17: 25
      so remember in cartoons, even Soviet ones - all sorts of Ali women, Hajj Nasredin, little torment, everywhere they are cunning and outwit everyone. The people are like that, they have such a mentality, to deceive, to trick.
  3. Roomata
    0
    20 March 2013 15: 59
    well thought out move
    Chinese loan - $ 389 million

    - Chinese loan - $ 129,8 million

    - Turkey loan - $ 100 million

    - Turkey grant - $ 6 million

    - loan and grant of the Asian Bank for Reconstruction and Development - $ 55 million

    this means that when the debt cannot be repaid, the entire territory will go to the lender and it doesn’t matter that the borrower is on the run
    there will be a current when they rob people’s money and smile maliciously
  4. zavesa01
    +1
    20 March 2013 16: 01
    Loans will need to be given, and when there is nothing to give, it becomes puppets and colonies.
    Either as an ally or as a satellite, but they will be part of Russia.
    Do not forget Europe, too, lived in loans, but as time showed not for long. Credit is debt, and debt must be repaid.
    1. optimist
      0
      20 March 2013 16: 23
      Are you serious? In the world, perhaps, there is not a single country left that would not abandon Russia with the return of loans and assistance. When in the USSR black ... people were fed, they even paid with cotton and other goods. Their bai, as before, distribute money, and everything will remain as it was. And there will NEVER be any integration! It was not for this that the Americans destroyed the USSR 22 years ago in order to now allow the reverse process. Yes, this is garbage compared to the fact that now Cyprus will be dumped a bunch of dough: Drugan Abramovich and Deripaska complained to VVP-shechka that the European Union will take away the stolen "grandmothers"!
      1. 0
        20 March 2013 20: 17
        Quote: optimist
        In the world, perhaps, there is not a single country left that would not have thrown Russia with the repayment of loans and assistance

        I agree, one hundred percent! Foreign policy review. As a means of payment with buoys use only beads!
        1. 0
          21 March 2013 01: 39
          Quote: Sukhov
          As a means of payment with buoys use only beads!

          Why minus?
          Money (colored pieces of paper, beads, candy wrappers, etc.) is not a goal, but a means necessary for implementing the process of exchanging goods between business entities. Banknotes are a symbol of debt, which in decent companies decided to return.
          If you take a loan and are going to repay it, then what difference does it make use of as money?
          For what minus?
  5. Ali Baba
    -2
    20 March 2013 17: 04
    Hmm ... I wonder who is actually really burdock dumped so much dough and amers are still hanging out in Manas ....
    1. 0
      20 March 2013 17: 33
      amers also dumped dough to stay in Manas. So we throw it, then what to do then?
  6. Atlon
    +3
    20 March 2013 17: 37
    Twenty-five again ... Again, we will set up power plants, schools, hospitals, and then the invaders will say ... Not tired? However, there is an opinion that land and property are bought up under this business, naturally with legal registration. I don’t know the details, but if this is so, you can pay the princes for real wealth. And when the infrastructure, production, and key territories become the property of Russia, then they will not go anywhere ...
    1. -1
      20 March 2013 17: 54
      Guys, is it really incomprehensible? Take a look how much this dough with jigsaws lined up in a queue!
  7. +1
    20 March 2013 19: 00
    Quote: djon3volta
    so remember in cartoons, even Soviet ones - all sorts of Ali women, Hajj Nasredin, little torment, everywhere they are cunning and outwit everyone. The people are like that, they have such a mentality, to deceive, to trick.

    To stupid and mow under the fool that's the whole mentality. Loans in Kyrgyzstan are in good hands and no one is going to repay them and did not intend to.
    The republic is poor, only the number of mansions and "people's Lexus" in Bishkek is perhaps in the thousands. "
    The booth.
  8. 120352
    +3
    20 March 2013 19: 19
    And you can't just buy them at one time and, leaving them within their own borders, so that they don't get into Russia, take tribute from them in the form of interest for already "donated" loans, but install our administration and BB there. Themselves bought to disarm just in case. After all, "Debt payment is red." Or am I wrong?
    1. +1
      20 March 2013 19: 53
      You are right a thousand times, this would be the best and cost-free solution for Russia. Russia does not have a border guarded with Turkestan, but the matter is that this border will be needed. Former border facilities of those places for equipment were very good. Trust their protection to the residents of Turkestan, you yourself understand ...
      The trouble is that agreeing with them once and for all is impossible ..
    2. Batkamahno
      0
      21 March 2013 10: 27
      Rave. Let’s say Americans bought us. They planted their president. The troops entered. They disarmed us and they say all Russians live happily ever after. And what ... 140000000 people need to be fed. Work for the dealers who will vryatli. But you need to work. to protect the territory from the Chinese. And nobody WANTS to work. as a result, there are still more attendants and problems
  9. Octavian avgust
    +2
    20 March 2013 20: 01
    So, another WB loan, approved in March this year, will be aimed at modernizing the education system. Nine million dollars of soft loans and more than seven million dollars of the grant will be spent on improving the management and accountability of schools.
    Che is wrong here! They rather give them money to rewrite history or introduce Western standards for "moronization" and the like. I do not think that pragmatic Westerners are worried about the bright future of the Kirghiz.
  10. -2
    20 March 2013 21: 14
    The border must be closed tightly. I generally advocate minefields and guided flamethrower systems. We did not do this, and therefore slurp Afghan heroin to the fullest. But the problem must be solved. While dramatically. Stop looking at someone. What will Uncle Sam say there? It’s time to live with your own mind. Sincerely.
  11. -2
    20 March 2013 23: 32
    fool The border must be closed tightly. I generally advocate minefields and guided flamethrower systems

    Yeah, a preventive nuclear strike would be more effective and scare Uncle Semku.
    1. The cat
      0
      21 March 2013 01: 42
      Quote: 1goose3
      fool The border must be closed tightly. I generally advocate minefields and guided flamethrower systems

      Yeah, a preventive nuclear strike would be more effective and scare Uncle Semku.

      And still it is necessary to build the Death Star, and preferably two.
      1. Ali Baba
        0
        22 March 2013 12: 46
        Quote: Elgato

        Quote: 1goose3
        The border must be closed tightly. I generally advocate minefields and guided flamethrower systems

        Yeah, a preventive nuclear strike would be more effective and scare Uncle Semku.
        And still it is necessary to build the Death Star, and preferably two.

        Well, just in the top ten comrade ... let the patriots come with you the dark side ...
  12. +2
    21 March 2013 00: 39
    Purchased means corrupt. Sell ​​on occasion. Better conquered means conquered. For the strong they will hold on.
    1. Batkamahno
      0
      21 March 2013 10: 29
      My post is higher
      Quote: BatkaMahno
      The problem is different. Everything would be fine here, but if our neighbors are not supported, then they, as a state, can completely collapse. And to have a mess on the border, as a neighbor of a drug addict. It seems that everything is fine at home, but someone is crap under the door. And look at him in the back and stick a knife. This is philistine, and so on the example of countries, an example of Syria. A sea of ​​mercenaries for little money. And you can’t close the border so long on the castle. The Chinese, too, were building a wall, the state was ruined. The result is zero. Yes, and 500 million Russians with such drug trafficking as now is a problem. In addition, there is an example of a completely closed state with 000% national composition. Pay attention to North Korea. Yes, and they have nuclear weapons))) and threaten them all. That's just the life of ordinary people as it is not very
  13. Cpa
    +1
    21 March 2013 10: 22
    Quote: 120352
    But you can’t just buy them at a time and, leaving them within their own borders, so that they don’t go into Russia, take a tribute from them in the form of interest

    That's what they did to Russia; history does not teach you. am
    Russia has a five-fold increased order for the construction and maintenance of nuclear power plants. Kyrgyzstan produces raw materials. We process it.
    Copper production in Russia is declining.
    Money is allocated subject to an 50% stake in the country's future hydropower.
    In Kyrgyzstan, torpedoes are made for the Russian fleet, which is even more significant than Manas. There is also a struggle for the right to own it.
    The article is narrow-minded, with all due respect to "However". What is the expression ".. even the EU does not pay .." lol They have nothing and nothing. China and the United States staked them before. Russia is struggling with this.