Prussians - mounted Vikings

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Prussians - mounted Vikings

It is worth mentioning right away: we received 90 percent of the information about the Prussians from the Teutonic Knights - the Prussians themselves did not have a written language, and having disappeared, they did not even leave behind legends. So the remaining 10 percent of information is provided by archaeologists.


Prussian warrior, reconstruction based on archaeological data

The Prussians were a Baltic people, something between the Slavs (in their case, the Poles) and the Lithuanians, and much closer to the Lithuanians. The word "Prussians" is not a self-designation (they only had names for individual tribes), it comes either from the Rusne River, a tributary of the Neman, or from the Gothic word "prus" - mare. As for the mare - nothing funny: the Prussians were natural-born horsemen! The fact is that the territory they inherited, which today covers the Kaliningrad region of Russia, the Warmia-Masuria Voivodeship of Poland and a piece of the Klaipeda County of Lithuania, is a huge wedge of forest-steppe, abandoned by the will of the Almighty in the middle of the Baltic forests and swamps. And in the culture of the Prussians themselves, until the very end of the existence of this people, there were certain features that brought them closer to the steppe nomads...




Map of the settlement of Prussian tribes

First of all, it is a “raid economy”. Living on the Baltic coast, they managed not to become good sailors, but they did not give rest to all their neighbors (mainly the Masurs) with their horse raids, accompanied by the theft of cattle and slaves. Well, and - food uncharacteristic for sedentary peoples, which included horse meat and mare's milk, and a love of equestrian sports in the form of races for a valuable prize. It is possible (there is such a hypothesis) that before arriving on the Baltic coast, the Prussians roamed the Don basin, although the “official medieval version” is different: Gallus Anonymus, a French chronicler of the 12th century, wrote that during the time of Charlemagne, “when Saxony was rebellious towards him and did not accept the yoke of his power", some of the Saxons crossed over here on ships and populated Prussia. However, Gall failed to plausibly explain why the Saxons adopted the name Prussians (there is another version that the Prussians are Frisians who fled here, but this is not science fiction).

By the way, this quite continental people seriously believed that they lived on an island, they even called their land "Ulmigania" (or "Ulmigaria", or "Ulmgiriya" - there are different versions) - "Island Kingdom". The fact is that the Sambian Peninsula, which they occupied, is bordered on three sides by the sea, and on the fourth - by the Pregolya and Deima rivers, so getting there without getting your feet wet was indeed impossible at that time.

However, although the Prussian name Ulmigaria has a part meaning "kingdom", this people did not have a real state. There were 11 tribes, constantly fighting each other and often inviting their neighbors to participate in the conflict (on their side, of course). This is how the Germans conquered Prussia: by helping one tribe against another, and then absorbing the lands of the weakened one...

At the beginning of our era, according to the descriptions of Tacitus, the predecessors of the Prussians, the Aestii, did not use iron weapons, fighting with clubs, but... by the 10th century they already had it: the Prussians had something to trade - amber was found in large quantities on their territory. Incidentally, as Tacitus noted, and modern archaeologists fully agree with him, the Prussians themselves did not wear amber jewelry - everything was sold.


The murder of Bishop Adalbert by the Prussians - a fragment of the gate of the Gniezno Cathedral of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary

The interest in the Prussians in the 23th century is explained by the fact that they were stubborn pagans, and therefore attempts were made to baptize them repeatedly. The first to be crowned with martyrdom in this field was the Prague Bishop Adalbert. He reached Gdansk, where he took a boat, two monks and went to the Prussians. At first, they took him for a merchant and treated him well. But when they realized that this German had no other goods except the "word of God", they advised him to get out of here while he was still alive. Well, when Adalbert accidentally wandered into a local sacred grove... On April 997, XNUMX, in the village of Beregovoye in the Kaliningrad region (no data remains on what the Prussian settlement in these parts was called at the time), he was pierced with a spear. Then the next missionary, Bruno of Querfurt, was honored with Adalbert's fate...

The Prussians (Aestii), according to Tacitus, worshipped the Mother Goddess, but for some reason her symbol was a boar. Perhaps this contradiction arose because none of the Christian preachers were really interested in the Prussian religion. It is only known that there were sacred oak groves in which sacrifices were made. Usually animals were sacrificed, but humans could also be sacrificed. There is a description of how the Prussians sacrificed a German knight: they dressed him in armor, hung a sword on his belt, then sat him on a horse and burned him like that. The description is confirmed by archeology: in Prussian burial grounds, the bones of a noble warrior most often lie on top of horse bones - apparently, at least since the 5th century AD, they were buried on horseback...

However, the Prussians also placed all the necessary inventory in the graves of their fellow tribesmen: tools for artisans, weapons for warriors, and with leaders and nobles, in addition to mountains of property, they buried horses and servants. Then, relatives of the deceased regularly brought horse skins to the grave - so that the ancestor could get to his home, on the threshold of which they put food and drink for him.


Prussian gods: Perkunas, Pecos and Potrimpo, according to Caspar Hennenberger (1529-1600)

Only very late data from the 1520th-XNUMXth centuries remain on the Prussian pantheon. Perkunas, the thunder god, Okopirms, the god of the sky, Autrimps, the god of the sea, Zweigstiks, the god of light, are mentioned. The priests of the "Krive" served the gods, led by the High Priest of "Krive-Krivaito". But it is difficult to say how much this corresponds to reality: by that time the Prussians had already been baptized for two hundred years. However, how baptized... The last recorded sacrifice in these parts took place in XNUMX. Local historian, Lukas David, described this incident as follows:

"The Poles threatened Königsberg from the south, through the Pregel. The shores of Sambia were approaching fleet Gdansk. The representatives of the people decided to renew the vow to Saint Adalbert. In this confusion, a free man, Valtin Suplitt, appears from Sambia and promises to turn away the enemy. The ambassadors brought the ruler's decision. Suplitt demanded a black bull and two barrels of beer from the peasants. Everything was delivered to Rantau (Zaostrovie). There, on the seashore, in the presence of only men, Suplitt burned the bones and entrails of the bull on a specially laid fire, accompanied by prayers and gesticulations with his feet and hands. A few days later, the ships that had appeared off the coast sailed away, for the sailors imagined the coast of Sambia in a terrible form. The people believed in the help of the gods..."

Despite living on the outskirts, and the Baltic region in the Middle Ages was a remote corner of Europe (which it remains today!), the Prussians did not live in poverty, even their raids were more a tribute to tradition than an urgent need. I have already written about the amber trade, but in addition to it, there was a fairly developed agriculture (wheat, barley, oats and flax grow well in Prussia), the sea gave fish, the forests - game and honey. The Prussians were also well acquainted with metallurgy - they forged iron, cast copper and bronze. Nevertheless, they had problems with good iron: the swamp ores, which are abundant in Prussia, do not produce high-quality metal (it is possible to forge agricultural equipment, but not good weapons), so most of the swords of the local residents were imported.


Reconstruction of Tuwangste, a Prussian settlement on the site of modern Kaliningrad

In total, by the time the knight brothers appeared in Prussia, the Prussians numbered about 200-250 thousand people. As I have already noted, they did not have a single state, but they had princes (kunigs), each city had its own. The prince was ruled by a council of nobility. Usually, princes ruled "lands", nobility ruled "volosts", and villages were ruled by elders. Kunigs lived in "cities", one of which was Tuvangste, on the site of which Kaliningrad now stands. If in the XNUMXth century society was clearly divided into slaves, free people and nobility, then by the XNUMXth century the stratification of the free began - into completely free and free but dependent. Gradually, professional warriors appeared - princely warriors. In war, the Prussians most often managed to choose a single leader, from among the most experienced and authoritative kunigs, whose power ended with the return of the army home.


That same ring from Strobienen

Incidentally, Simon Grunau in his 1798th-century Prussian Chronicle claims that the Prussians were taught to fight on horseback by young men who were hostages in the Roxolani tribe. During the battle between the Prussians and the Masons (ancestors of the Masurs) and their allied Roxolani, the hostages managed to escape from captivity, having taught their fellow tribesmen the enemy's fighting techniques. A legend? Perhaps, but in XNUMX, a gold ring was found in the vicinity of Strobienen (Kulikovo), worn on the neck of a wooden idol. On it is a relief: a pair of fighting horsemen, behind one of whom is an old priest riding a wolf, and behind the other is a horseman with a bow and two braids - either a Sarmatian or an Avar. The ring is usually dated to the XNUMXth century, just when the archaeological culture of Western Mazovia ceased to exist, and a mass of Masurian jewelry appeared in the graves of Prussian leaders...

The Prussians mixed fairly easily with the Slavs who came to these lands somewhat later, around the 6th century. It is believed that the tribes of the Pomeranians and Polabian Slavs appeared from the mixing of Slavs with the Prussians. Prussians? It is worth clarifying right away - measuring DNA here is useless: Prussian leaders and nobles often took Polish captives as wives, so it soon became quite difficult to find pure-blooded Prussians. The only differences between these people were their language (which quickly absorbed Slavic words) and religion.


Battle of the Teutonic Knights with the Prussians - relief of the Malbork Cathedral

In terms of military art, the Prussians remained the "last Vikings" until the end of their independence, only not on ships, but on horses. There is little precise information about their weapons: German medieval records usually did not go into detail, limiting themselves to entries of the type "weapons prescribed by custom". Most likely, they retained the set of weapons typical of the 8th-9th centuries: a round or rectangular shield (and in the Order sources, it was the rectangular shield that was called "Prussian"), short chain mail or scale armor, a pointed helmet, a sword, darts and bows with arrows. But the main weapon of the Prussians was spears. Cavalry spears (and a horse attack was their main combat technique) were three meters long and had three types of tips: laurel-leaved, triangular and lanceolate. The structure of the tips is quite complex - multi-strip welding, essentially Damascus. Prussian blacksmiths managed to harden only the blades of the tips, and this is a rather complex technology.

The Germans who invaded Prussia had a number of technical innovations that allowed them to defeat the Prussians. First of all, the crossbow. Despite the fact that the Germans did not use powerful crossbows with a steel bow in Prussia (in the cold, the steel bow could break when pulled), the locals were still impressed by the wooden crossbows.

In order to successfully conquer the "Island Kingdom", the Germans resorted to baptizing the local nobility and Kunigs: it was believed that they would baptize their subjects themselves. However, the acceptance of baptism was often purely external, a clear example of which can be considered the Kunigs of the Natang tribe - Herkus Mantas. He was taken hostage as a child, baptized, and raised in Magdeburg as a knight. This did not prevent him, after the defeat of the Order in the Battle of Durbe, from raising an uprising.

However, the Prussians had rebelled before Mantas. The first Prussian rebellion was in 1242. If the date seems familiar to someone, it seems so to you. Could Alexander Nevsky have coordinated his actions against the German knights in Estonia with the Prussian Kungas? After all, intelligence in Russia only appeared after the emergence of the GRU GS? True, for some reason, the Pomor (or Pomeranian...) prince Svyatopolk the Great acted together with the Prussians (and Alexander Yaroslavich) - a coincidence, probably... In general, in the spring of 1242, the Prussians captured and destroyed all the order castles on their territory, only Balga and Elbing held out. After which the army of the rebels went to "Kulmerland", where only Kulm, Torun and Reden held out. As Peter of Dusburg reported,

"They killed 4 thousand, so that the whole Prussian land seemed to be stained with blood."

In fact, the Order was thrown out onto the territory granted by Konrad of Masovia in 1226.

The Germans had a chance to leave the Baltics for good, but the Order managed to form an alliance with the Polish princes Casimir of Kujawy, Boleslav and Przemysl of Greater Poland, who could not stand Sviatopolk of Pomerania. And help from Brandenburg, Meissen, Thuringia and Austria arrived. And in 1245, Pope Innocent IV declared a crusade against the Prussians. Sviatopolk was not supposed to go against the Pope, but he did. Together with the Prussians, he met the crusaders on the battlefield and suffered a terrible defeat - only 1500 people died on the field. The uprising was defeated, but the guerrilla war lasted for another seven years.


And the Crusaders were not always lucky...

The second Prussian rebellion was in 1260, and it was called "the Great". The signal for it was the defeat of the knights of the Livonian Order and the crusaders at Lake Durbe. In addition to the crusaders and the knight brothers, Marshal Heinrich Botel sent infantry from the conquered Curonians and Estonians into battle with the Lithuanians. This was a mistake - the Curonians and Estonians attacked the crusaders from the rear in the midst of the battle. As soon as the news of the defeat of the knights reached the Prussians, they flared up too. In Sambia, Glande became the leader of the rebels, in Pogesania - Attum, among the Barts - Divane, in Warmia - Glappo. But the most dangerous of all was Herkus Mantas. He was the son of one of the Prussian Kunigs who went into the service of the Germans. Having spent 10 years as a hostage, he mastered German tactics and combat techniques perfectly, so he was chosen as the main leader of the rebellious Prussians.


Herkus Mantas performed by Antanas Šurna, film "Herkus Mantas" (1973)

In 1261, Mantas defeated the Order's army in the Battle of Pokarvis. But he did not sit and wait for the next crusader army at home and went to ravage Kulmerland. This did not please the Landmeister of the Order, Helmerich von Rechberg, and he tried to defeat the Prussians in a field battle. Mantas killed the Landmeister himself and 40 knights from among those who came with him. In 1265, he came to the aid of the Sambians who were besieging Königsberg, but unsuccessfully - in the battle he received a wound in the shoulder, many Prussian warriors remained on the battlefield.


The Execution of Herkus Mantas

But gold decided the fate of the uprising. The King of Bohemia Ottokar Przemysl agreed on neutrality with the Pomeranian Prince Mstivoy, and stupidly bought part of the Prussian elite. Mantas won his last victory in 1271 at Sirgun, then followed a series of defeats, a year of guerrilla warfare... Herkus was captured either near the village of Dolgorukovo in the Kaliningrad region, or near the village of Mezhdurechye in the Chernyakhovsk district. He was hanged from a tree, after which he was pierced twice with a sword: the knights' squires were Prussians and gave the leader of the uprising an honorable death...

The last of the Prussian tribes surrendered in 1284. The last Prussian speaker died in 1711, but the nobility had switched to German as early as the XNUMXth century. From the remnants of the Prussians, local Poles, and German colonists, a new nation emerged - the Prussians, but this is already a different story...
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  1. +7
    28 December 2024 04: 45
    Good day!
    From Gerhard's work:
    ...or from the Gothic word "Prus" - mare. As for the mare - nothing funny: the Prussians were natural-born horsemen!

    The first editions of the Russian Pravda, in addition to the privileged "class" of the Varangians, included the less privileged "kobyaks". One version of who these "kobyaks" were is the Prussians.
    Thanks to the author, Comrades, happy last working day of the old year!!!
    1. +6
      28 December 2024 15: 21
      -
      “So, the right bank of the Suevic Sea washes the land of the Aestii tribes, whose customs and appearance are like those of the Sueves, and whose language is similar to the British. They worship the mother of the gods and wear the image of a boar as a symbol of their beliefs.”...(Tacitus).
      Language, faith and totem directly indicate kinship with the Celts.
      One of the founders of the Romanov dynasty, Andrei Kobyla, is mentioned in some sources as Andrei Pruss. Or a certain Glyanda - a typical Prussian name.
      -But it was gold that decided the fate of the uprising.
      It all happened earlier, when Christianization created a gap between the people and the elite.
      As in Khazaria, which was significantly weakened as a result of the civil war that arose from the attempt to “Judenize” the population.
      And no less important is Rurik's totem, the Trident.
      Again, some manuscripts say that Rurik was from Prussia. Therefore (as a version) the trident symbolizes the triad of ancient Prussian gods: Perkunas - the god of lightning and thunder in a fiery crown, Potol - the god of the underworld and death Potrimp - the god of rivers, springs and fertility.
  2. +4
    28 December 2024 04: 51
    The murder of Bishop Adalbert by the Prussians - a fragment of the gate of the Gniezno Cathedral of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
    belay Seriously? Nonsense. The Prussians have scraped chins and moustaches, and Adalbert himself does too, he just dressed up decently, but the guys just had a quarrel. request
  3. +5
    28 December 2024 06: 19
    Quote: Gerhard von Zwischen
    It is worth clarifying right away that measuring DNA here is useless: Prussian leaders and nobles often took Polish captives as wives, so that finding purebred Prussians soon became quite difficult.
    Why is it useless? Men have their own haplogroup, and women have their own. It is very easy to do, as long as the bimaterial is preserved.
  4. +3
    28 December 2024 08: 14
    It is worth mentioning right away: we received 90 percent of the information about the Prussians from the Teutonic Knights.
    It is believed that the Prussians were first mentioned by Ptolemy, although he called them either borussias, whether with boruski. Well, if we dive even deeper into antiquity, then the ancient Greeks, and then the Romans, bought amber in these parts. I think that they bought it from them...

    The onslaught of either the Germans or the South Baltic Slavs eventually led them to the Oka River basin, where their remnants became known in ancient Russian times under the name of the tribe golyad. A little later, but already under pressure from the Germans, they actively populated the Novgorod lands, laying the foundation for such famous families as the Morozovs, Saltykovs and others.

    There is also an opinion that even Moskvorechye was occupied by the descendants of the Prussians and the toponym itself Moscow has a southern Baltic origin, although my personal opinion is that the name Moscow still has Finnish roots, like everything that is located north of modern Ryazan...
    1. +6
      28 December 2024 10: 10
      About look - later, already in the works)))
    2. +4
      28 December 2024 15: 55
      If we talk about the Finno-Ugric population in the Moscow region and further south, then the left tributary of the Oka, the Ugra, flows into the Oka, just above Kaluga, and originates somewhere in the Smolensk region.
      But the Finno-Ugric people appeared in these places and to the east 2-2,5 thousand years later than the proto-Aryans, the R1a people. And they somehow got along together. The economic system was such that their interests did not particularly intersect.
  5. +8
    28 December 2024 08: 23
    since the now extinct Prussian language was greatly influenced by Polish and German, but not Lithuanian, the name and surname of the leader of the Prussian uprising against the Teutons should be written in Russian as Herkus Monte or Heinrich Monte, but not in the Lithuanian manner Herkus Mantas. If the Lithuanians once made a film about him, it does not mean that he has already become a Lithuanian for the rest of the world - Herkus Mantas. So either Herkus Monte or Heinrich Monte. Otherwise, all over the former Prussia, the Lithuanians have come up with, they say, old Lithuanian names. So you will soon start calling Sovetsk Tilže, Baltiysk - Piliava and Mamonovo - Šventapiliu. They call a pure Pole, a Polish noblewoman who did not speak a word of Lithuanian, a participant in the uprising Emilia Plater, a Lithuanian Emilija Pliaterytė, and a participant in the uprising, a Pole Sierakowski, a Lithuanian Sierakauskas, and a Polish countess Radziwill, a Lithuanian Radvilaitė. They also have an open question about the greatest Russian artist Isaac Levitan, who was born in Lithuania. Should they not appropriate him for themselves and call Levitan a Lithuanian painter?
    1. +6
      28 December 2024 09: 01
      Quote: North 2
      And so, all over the former Prussia, Lithuanians came up with, they say, old Lithuanian names
      This always happens to everyone, when someone crawls out of the shadows into the light of day. After which, he immediately discovers an ancient and glorious history, leading straight to the very beginning of the creation of the world. Open the history of all the former republics of the USSR and you will see for yourself...
    2. +3
      28 December 2024 10: 16
      Hmm... We don't know the name of the leader of the Natangs: there are only versions. Heinrich Monte - German, Herkus Mantas - Lithuanian. Since the Prussians are Balts (and they are Balts, although heavily mixed with the Slavs), then, in my opinion, the Lithuanian version is closer to the truth. And calling the enemy of the order and a principled pagan by his German name... In my opinion, it's not the best idea.
    3. -1
      29 December 2024 17: 58
      Quote: north 2
      and the participant of the uprising, the Pole Sierakowski, is called the Lithuanian Sierakauskas

      It's just that in Lithuanian male names and surnames end in as, is. And in other languages ​​it's different.
      Quote: north 2
      They also have an open question about the greatest Russian artist Isaac Levitan, who was born in Lithuania.

      Levitan was Jewish by nationality, Lithuanian by birthplace, and a representative of Russian culture by achievements, having painted the most inspired paintings of the Russian landscape. It is difficult to classify "Above Eternal Peace" as a Jewish or Lithuanian painting.
  6. +4
    28 December 2024 09: 46
    Prussia then began to dominate the German tribes. Very often in the most noble Prussian families there are Slavic roots. Recently I read that Field Marshal Manstein changed his previous surname, which had Slavic roots. However, before the revolution, part of the Manstein family lived well in Russia.
    1. +3
      28 December 2024 10: 26
      Half of Germany is former Slavic lands: Brandenburg - Branny Bor, Leipzig - Lipetsk and so on. These are the lands of the Lyutichi and Bodrichi, but they were conquered much earlier than Prussia. That is why the Prussians in the 19th century had a reputation as uncouth soldiers, against the background of the rest of the "cultured" Germans... And the inhabitants of Königsberg had the same reputation among the Prussians themselves)))
      1. +3
        28 December 2024 16: 38
        About 15 years ago I came across information that Hitler immediately in 1933 adopted a program to eradicate 30 Slavic toponyms and completed it by 000. And I even came across mentions of this on the Internet.
        But then, when I decided to delve deeper, I didn't come across any mentions of this. Everything was swept away.
        Haven't you come across it anywhere?
        I wonder what kind of toponyms were there, if after the eradication of 30 of them, such super German pearls as Medow, Gribow, Luckow, Teterow, Perow, Repnitz, Kowalz, Liepen, Rakow, Markow and many more remained. Not to mention the well-known Rostock.
      2. -2
        28 December 2024 21: 53
        Brandenburg - Branny Bor, Leipzig - Lipetsk and so on.
        Yeah. And the Etruscans are Russian. It reminds me very much of Zadornov's philological exercises. But he can, he's a humorist.
        1. +1
          29 December 2024 00: 24
          Lusatian Sorbs still live in eastern Germany and have not forgotten their language and culture.
          1. 0
            29 December 2024 13: 39
            I do not deny the existence of Lusatian Serbs. I doubt the interpretation of Leipzig as Lipetsk.
            1. 0
              29 December 2024 13: 47
              Who knows. Perhaps 1000 years ago the distance separating the East Germanic, Baltic and Slavic languages ​​was less than it is now.
            2. -1
              29 December 2024 15: 35
              Just above I have provided some information that I have pulled off a modern map:
              Medow, Gribow, Luckow, Teterow, Perow, Repnitz, Kowalz, Liepen, Rakow, Markow.
              That is: Medov, Gribov, Lukov, Teterov, Perov, Repnits, Kovalts, Rakov, Markov.
              Moreover, some of them exist in plural form: Big ..., Small ..., New ..., Old .... The most famous is Rostock.
              How else can they be interpreted?
              And in the haplotype of north-eastern Germany, R1a is about 25-40%.
          2. 0
            29 December 2024 18: 01
            Quote: Dozorny_ severa
            Lusatian Sorbs still live in eastern Germany and have not forgotten their language and culture.

            They became Germanized at the end of the 20th century. Although the Czechs, who were Germanized in the 18th century, unexpectedly revived or, more correctly, re-created the Czech language in the 19th century.
        2. 0
          30 December 2024 11: 33
          Yeah, and the old name of the Königsberg region was Liebenicht. From the Prussian name of the stream that flowed here - Lipnik. And that's a fact.
        3. 0
          1 January 2025 18: 56
          The Etruscans called themselves - Raseny
    2. +5
      28 December 2024 10: 44
      Quote: tank64rus
      Prussia then became dominant over the Germanic tribes.
      When Prussia appeared, the Germanic tribes no longer existed. All of them had their own states to one degree or another, albeit microscopic, but still states.
    3. +6
      28 December 2024 11: 45
      I read that Manstein changed his previous surname, which has Slavic roots

      In a nutshell. Immediately after birth, he was adopted by the family of General Georg von Manstein, the son of Albrecht Gustav. His biological and adoptive mothers were the von Sperling sisters. One married General von Lewinski, the other married General von Manstein. The youngest suffered greatly because she was infertile, so the middle one took a church vow to give her tenth child to her to raise. When Erich was born, General Lewinski sent the Mansteins a telegram: “You have a boy. Mother and child are doing well. Congratulations.”
      1. +2
        28 December 2024 14: 07
        Quote: Richard
        When Erich was born, General Lewinski sent the Mansteins a telegram
        According to rumors, this general is half Jewish, although of Christian faith. The surname Levinsky alone is worth something. It's like the Russian surname Ivanov, and the Pole Kowalski wink
        1. +1
          28 December 2024 16: 46
          He must be Monica's relative.
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    5. +3
      28 December 2024 18: 12
      The first Manstein in Russia served under Minich and distinguished himself during the capture of Crimea during the time of Anna Ioannovna, holding the rank of captain (Hauptmann).
  7. +4
    28 December 2024 11: 44
    The author writes a lot about the Prussian horsemen, talks about the forest-steppe on the Baltic coast, but I do not believe him. Firstly, where did the steppes and forest-steppes in Prussia come from? The nearest places more or less free of forest and suitable for horse breeding are thousands of kilometers to the east, far on the eastern border of Rus'. The Prussians did not have any "nomad features" or herds of horses. They were ordinary Balts who lived in the forest zone and hunted and raided their neighbors. They were really defeated by horsemen - Western knights. But not all Prussians dissolved into the Germans. Some of the eastern Prussians passed through the territories of the Lithuanian tribes and were accepted for settlement in Polotsk and neighboring principalities.
    1. +2
      28 December 2024 18: 13
      Some of them reached the east and became Russian tsars, the Romanovs :-)
      1. +2
        28 December 2024 22: 33
        became the Russian Tsars Romanov

        The Department of Manuscripts and Rare Books of the Academy of Sciences and the Synodal Library contain four curious manuscripts that still cause controversy in the scientific world. These are the "Royal Book" of Ivan the Terrible and three copies of the Illustrated Chronicle Collection of Ivan III and his son Ivan IV the Terrible. Both father and son also traced their lineage of Rurikovichs through Rurik's great-grandfather, the Obodrite elder Burevy from the Prussians. Whether this is true or not, scholars are still arguing. There are countless copies on this issue in the historical community, dating back to the time of Prince Shcherbatov.
        Another interesting fact: according to the PVL, the oldest street in Novgorod was called Prussian.
        The genealogy of Rurik from the Illustrated Chronicle of Ivan III
        1. +3
          28 December 2024 22: 47
          The name of Rurik's uncle Gostomysl does not appear in early Russian chronicles. His name as the first Novgorod elder appears only in the 15th century in the lists "And se posadnitsi novgorodstii" from the Commission list of the Novgorod First, Yermolinskaya and Novgorod Fourth Chronicles. As the initiator of the call of the Varangians, he appears in even later sources of the 16th century. The Voskresenskaya Chronicle of the 16th century reports that on the advice of Gostomysl, the Varangians were called from Prussia:
          And at that time in Novgorod there was a certain elder named Gostomysl, who was about to end his life, and he called together the rulers of Novgorod who were with him and said: “I give you advice, so that you send wise men to the Prussian land and call a prince from the families who are there.”
          links: Chronicle according to the Voskresensky list Archived copy from November 10, 2011 on the Wayback Machine // Complete collection of Russian chronicles. — St. Petersburg: Type. E. Pratsa, 1856. — T. VII. — P. 268.
          Complete collection of Russian chronicles. Vol. 9. P. 3.
    2. 0
      29 December 2024 13: 57
      I assure you that this is forest-steppe as a resident of the Kaliningrad region! And that the Prussians have nomadic features... Well, if eating horse meat and drinking kumiss are not nomadic features... Then, yes, they do not exist. And burying leaders with horse races is also a common thing among the Balts, yeah...
    3. 0
      1 January 2025 18: 59
      The Lithuanian light cavalry is famous
  8. +3
    28 December 2024 19: 06
    "We will eat grass and wash it down with water, but we will continue the siege" - I remember these words from my childhood from the film Gerkus Mantas (Lithuanian SSR).
  9. 0
    29 December 2024 00: 25
    Quote: Flying_Dutchman
    These are the lands of the Lyutichi and Bodrichi, but they were conquered much earlier than Prussia.

    Leipzig is Saxony - there were no Bodrichi or Lutechi there, if there were Slavs they were Lusatian Serbs, they still live there.
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      29 December 2024 15: 42
      Leipzig is Saxony - there are no Bodrichi or Lyutechi there

      Who said that? Or did you personally live there at the time?
      If there were Slavs, they were Lusatian Serbs, and they still live there.

      There are no Vyatichi in the territory of the modern Kaluga region. This does not mean that they never existed.
      If Tartaria is not in modern textbooks and maps, it does not mean that it never existed. On old maps it (or rather they) is simply everywhere.
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      1 January 2025 19: 01
      Some German writer claimed that the Saxons were very close to the Slavs and had mixed with them so much that they could be considered Slavs too.
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        2 January 2025 00: 12
        It may well be that close proximity always leads to miscegenation. Although... perhaps for some time the Eastern Germans and Slavs were very close in a racial and linguistic sense (after the departure of some of the East Germanic tribes to the West).
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    29 December 2024 17: 58
    Everyone knows who the Pomors are.
    In the Novgorod province there is such a thing as lake dwellers, i.e. the population that lives on the shores of Lake Ilmen.
    There is a theory (I emphasize, it is a theory) that the tribes of the Russians who lived on the Baltic coast were called Poruss. Then this name was transformed into Prussia.
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    29 December 2024 21: 18
    I remember a story from 1944, during Operation Bagration. Then, after the liberation of Western Belarus, Soviet military censors/perlustrators encountered a problem: they could not understand the content of some letters home from recruits from the Western Belarusian regions. They turned to linguists from Moscow and Leningrad. With great difficulty, it was discovered that this was a dialect of the Old Prussian language. When they began to sort it out, it turned out that until the first third of the XNUMXth century it continued to be actively used in many rural areas of the Grodno region, for example.
    In general, in Lithuanian Balta means "white" and Belarus literally translates as Balta Rusija, Baltic Rus'.
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      30 December 2024 08: 59
      I will add. In Latvian, the Baltic Sea sounds like "Baltijas Jura", which translates as "White Sea". Thus: Belarus is White Sea Rus'. Even the term "Balts" means "white", that is, "peoples living by the White Sea".
      The Indo-Europeans, including the Slavs and Balts, had a widespread color differentiation of the cardinal directions: north - white, south - black, east - red, west - blue. This was usually reflected in the names of the seas and coasts. "Beyond the blue sea" meant "somewhere far to the west", the White and Black Seas meant the northern and southern seas on the borders of the Eastern Slavs. The modern White Sea was named so much later by settlers from Novgorod, because it was white for a significant time due to ice.
      The Baltic Sea became known after the Balts were either conquered by knightly orders (mostly of German origin) or formed a joint Slavic-Baltic feudal Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Russia and Samogitia. By the end of the 17th century, this sea was no longer called "White", but in the German manner began to be called "Baltic".
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    3 January 2025 21: 03
    "The Prussians first rebelled in 1242. If the date seems familiar to someone, it seems so to you. Alexander Nevsky couldn't have coordinated his actions against the German knights in Estonia with the Prussian Kungas? After all, intelligence in Russia only appeared after the GRU General Staff emerged. True, for some reason, the Pomor (or Pomeranian...) prince Svyatopolk the Great came out together with the Prussians (and Alexander Yaroslavich) - a coincidence, probably... In general, in the spring of 1242, the Prussians captured and destroyed all the order castles on their territory, only Balga and Elbing held out." And in 1241-42, Batu Khan invaded Europe.