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Israel and Syria: all mixed up in the Oblonsky house

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While Damascus accuses Tel Aviv of supporting opposition militants in the Golan Heights, Tel Aviv says the Syrian rebels plan to strike at Israel. Israelis also claim that rebels control two-thirds of Syrian territory, while Prime Minister Netanyahu asks the American president for permission to launch air strikes against targets in Syria to prevent missile and non-conventional weapons from reaching Hezbollah. Summarizing Summary News, we can say: Israel found two opponents in Syria: the opposition, in whose ranks there are many terrorists, and the Assad army, whose Hezbollah might be an ally.


The initiative of a military solution to the Syrian issue was expressed not only by Netanyahu, but also by Israeli President Shimon Peres.

Last week in Strasbourg, participating in the plenary session of the European Parliament, Mr. Perez acted for the intervention of the armed forces of the LAS countries in Syria. Speaking to parliamentarians, he said: “The Arab League can and must form a provisional government in Syria to stop the bloodshed and prevent Syria from falling. The UN must support the Arab Blue Helmets.

There is no doubt that Syria was decided to crush. Half a month ago, US Secretary of State John Kerry for the first time openly admitted that the West was training military men in the so-called "Free Syrian Army". “Many countries work with us in this business,” said Mr. Kerry. “And I think that President Assad should be careful in predicting the future.”

A few days later, the State Department decided to "non-lethal" assistance to the militants, as well as to allocate them sixty million dollars for certain "public services". Participating in the "Friends of Syria" Roman Meeting, Kerry сообщил to the leaders of the Syrian opposition that the US will provide them with additional assistance in the amount of 60 million dollars, and at the same time provide communications equipment and medical supplies. According to the Secretary of State, the money will allow the opposition to provide "various services" to the population of the areas it controls, and thereby strengthen support from local residents. Europe immediately responded to the initiative of the State Department. EU Council allowed supplies to the militants of the opposition "non-lethal military equipment": binoculars, night vision devices, communications equipment, uniforms.

Now Israel has started Syria.

A few days ago, Israel’s military intelligence chief Aviv Kohavi saidthat the opposition controls about two-thirds of Syrian territory, and the collapse of this state is already a fait accompli. At the same time, speaking at a conference in Herzliya, Major General Kochavi warned: the influence of radical Islamists is growing and widening in the ranks of the Syrian opposition. And these people, having solved the main task (the overthrow of Assad), "direct their energy against Israel."

Kohavi said: “Syria should not be taken as a whole. There is the state of Assad, and there is a rebel state, under the control of which two thirds of the populated part of the country are under control ... Most of the cities are fully or partially controlled by them. ” The general added that the border areas with Israel of the Golan Heights turned into a mosaic of enclaves fighting each other: “Eleven of the seventeen transitions (between the demilitarized zone adjacent to Israel and the rest of Syria) are in the hands of the rebels, and not only refugees pass through them, but also weaponand even jihadist elements. ”

According to the head of the Israeli military intelligence, Assad troops are preparing to use chemical weapons against the opposition. In addition, Iran and the Hezbollah movement form a militia of fifty thousand fighters for fighting in Syria. Its number can be doubled if necessary.

At the same time received a statement from the Syrian side. Official Damascus accused Israel of supporting opposition militants who launched subversive activities in the demilitarized zone on the Golan Heights. In a letter addressed to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the President of the Security Council (Vitaly Churkin presides there in March), the permanent representative of the UAR to the UN Bashar Jafari indicated on the inadmissibility of the actions of the Jewish state.

The text of the letter states: “They are a flagrant violation of the Treaty on the Division of Forces from 1974 and impose responsibility on Israel for the threat that these groups (militants) pose to the security of UNDOF troops and officials”.

The Syrian diplomat also stressed that militant groups “enjoy the fact that the United Nations is turning a blind eye to the danger associated with their activities, which, thanks to the logistical support of the Israeli occupying forces, is clearly felt in the area of ​​responsibility” of UNDOF.

Who does Israel support in the Syrian conflict? If the "opposition fighters", then what?

After all, Aviv Kohavi warned about the threat posed by radical Islamists fighting on the side of the opposition, and the Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces, Lieutenant General Benny Gantz said that some of the rebel forces will soon turn their attention to the south and, quite possibly, will attack Israeli settlements in the Golan Heights.

“We see terrorist organizations that are increasingly settling in this territory, and they are fighting against Assad,” said Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz at the same conference in Herzliya. - And you know what? We will be next in line. ”

Probably, Tel Aviv considers the militants (more or less radical) of all who are fighting today in Syria. The Assad army is in alliance with Hezbollah and a hostile Iran, possessing chemical weapons, and the opposition, in whose ranks Al-Qaeda representatives and Islamist mercenaries from all over the world are being hunted, are hunting for these and other weapons, which may well be used in the struggle for the Golan Heights, that is, against Israel.

What is the solution found Tel Aviv? Anti-Syrian cooperation with the United States, which, undoubtedly, will significantly reduce the number of those who fight for Assad, and those who fight against.

The American president said earlier that the US Army would use force in Syria if the Syrian regime decides to use an unconventional weapon or hand it over to extremist organizations. However, in the IDF count them.that Israel was left alone in front of this problem.

Therefore, Benjamin Netanyahu made the “American” decision: after all, the approach to the situation in Syria from Tel Aviv and Washington, in contrast to the Iranian issue, is generally similar. According to the British newspaper The Guardian, Netanyahu going to ask Obama to launch an intervention in Syria. True, the request for American support will come only if irrefutable evidence is found that Syrian missiles from army arsenals began to get to Hezbollah by any means. In the event of a negative response from Obama, the Government of Israel will ask him to provide the United States with full support for the “IDF military operation in Syria and Lebanon to stop the replenishment of Hezbollah’s missile reserves.

Political scientist Eitan Gilboa awaiting 20 in March, when Obama arrives in Israel, says: “Obama has been re-elected. Netanyahu will remain Israeli Prime Minister for the next 4 of the year. They must work together. They should forget about the past and open a new page. And Obama’s visit provides the opportunity to open a new page both at the level of personal relations with Netanyahu and at the political level with the new Israeli government. ”

Obama will be given a present. Shimon Perez going to give He has a desk clock with engraving. Jewelry was prepared for the first American lady and the daughters of the President of the United States. Netanyahu plans to give B. Obama a nanochip covered with pure gold, containing the Declaration of Independence of both states. The chip size is just 0,04 sq. mm embedded in the Jerusalem stone of the Second Temple period (about I in. BC), which was used to seal the clay vessels.

Thus, it becomes obvious that after March 20, the fate of Syria will be decided. To this we must add that at the Brussels summit of the EU, held at the end of last week, the Syrian issue was the key. Two statesmen - the British Prime Minister and the President of France - met before the meeting. Hollande and Cameron are full of militancy and threaten to circumvent the EU embargo on the supply of arms to both belligerents in Syria. The supply issue will finally be resolved, probably on March 22-23 in Dublin, at the planned meeting of European foreign ministers. For the arming of the Syrian "opposition" London intends to spend for the beginning of 20 millions of pounds sterling. Thousands of militants will be enough for arming to the teeth, and then we'll see.

Bashar Asad wrote to the BRICS countries for help. Now it's up to the top five.

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  1. Arberes
    Arberes 20 March 2013 09: 12 New
    +6
    I feel sorry for this long-suffering country. Apparently, things are getting worse and worse! There was infa that ASAD turned to the BRIC countries for help and if this is the case the situation is critical!
    All the scum of the Middle East alone can not be ground and this is a fact!
    Yesterday it was necessary to set up camps for the training of "volunteers" who would fight for BASHAR.
    If there are people fighting against ASAD, then there would be those who would fight for him, and we would share weapons and intelligence information, and instructors would be thrown.
    It was not hell to chew snot and see what the WEST would do!
    1. avt
      avt 20 March 2013 09: 54 New
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      Quote: Arberes
      Yesterday it was necessary to set up camps for the training of "volunteers" who would fight for BASHAR.

      Judging by the development of events and the activity of liberoids, Assad clipped their wards there great. If he has problems, it is with material security. An indirect confirmation of the above is the use of chlorine by militants. They need an invasion as air, otherwise they will finish it. Hence the appointment as Karzai of the Amerov puppet to the post of leader of the Syrian opposition. The Foreign Ministry yesterday voiced Russia's position in a box, we will wait to see if they can stop the invasion in the Libyan scenario. But we must also understand that all this, including the reaction of Israel, is aimed at Iran and the development of its nuclear project. It can be firmly stated that the invasion of Syria was the beginning of the war with Iran and the avalanche-like development of all the long-standing conflicts of the region. Well, for the Fed, the long-awaited exit from the financial tailspin.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 20 March 2013 10: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: avt
        If he has problems, it is with material security.

        Maybe you are right dear, as they say, God forbid, but how do you explain his appeal to the BRICS countries?
        An attempt to secure against a possible intrusion? hi
        1. avt
          avt 20 March 2013 10: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: Arberes
          An attempt to secure against a possible intrusion?

          Yes exactly. In practice, this is a direct appeal to the leadership of Russia and China, by the way it can be said with a high degree of probability that the visit of the new Chinese leader to Russia is not accidental. Well, the agreement to build a pipeline from Iran through Pakistan, which provoked a rather sharp reaction from Amers, is also an extra confirmation of the serious situation in the region. Indeed, in the event of a large-scale war in chocolate, only the Fed. They ensured their energy security, and they take all those tied to the Middle East due to the war with a death grip by the throat. But after all, oil and gas are paid for by dead American presidents and virtual electronic money, painted on paper. Prospects for stockbrokers and bankers are simply breathtaking in the event of war.
        2. DeerIvanovich
          DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 11 New
          +1
          Naturally, if he can cope with militants, then with the invasion of a coalition of countries, it will be much more difficult to cope with them alone
        3. aksakal
          aksakal 20 March 2013 18: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Arberes

          Quote: avt
          If he has problems, it is with material security.
          Maybe you are right dear, as they say, God forbid, but how do you explain his appeal to the BRICS countries?
          An attempt to secure against a possible intrusion?
          - Assad is late. The militants used chemical weapons yesterday, worked clumsily, it should have looked like Assad used chemical weapons, but the Syrian soldiers died, and the States do not care who used Assad or the militants, there is reason to invade.
      2. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 10 New
        +2
        Well, more precisely, the beginning of the third world war. The United States, as before, will not directly engage in it, will try to do everything with the hands of its satellites, so that when the world war is in full swing and the main states of the world are exhausted, turn on and reap on the winner’s laurels, as she did in the previous world war.
        Well, the United States can’t provoke Iran to start a full-fledged war. they need a precedent to declare extreme Iran or some other country of the axis of Evil.
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 20 March 2013 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: avt
        The Foreign Ministry yesterday announced the position of Russia in a box, we will wait to see if they can stop the invasion according to the Libyan scenario.

        News in topic:
        WASHINGTON, March 20. NATO countries are preparing a plan for a military operation in Syria, similar to Libyan, Interfax reports.
        To end the civil war in Syria, which has already been going on for two years, a number of NATO member countries are considering using the Armed Forces to assist the opposition.
        Speaking at a meeting of the Senate Committee on Armed Forces. US Army Commander in Europe Admiral James Stavridis said, "We are ready, if ordered, to take actions similar to Libyan."
        The admiral also noted that, as in the case of the Libyan 2011 campaign of the year, it is necessary to adopt UN Security Council resolutions, as well as obtain the consent of all 28 NATO members for the use of the armed forces of the alliance in Syria.
        Recall that the internal conflict in Syria between government forces and the armed opposition has not stopped since March 2011. One of the main demands of the protesters is the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad. According to the UN, more than 60 thousand people became victims of war.
        If we add to this the statements of the frog president Francois Hollande about the decision to supply France with the "total (t) ra (n) tsam" weapons, there is something to think about both for Russia and China ...
      4. Explore
        Explore 20 March 2013 14: 19 New
        +2
        I am afraid that the “Syrian revolution,” with its unsuccessful end, will predetermine precisely a foreign invasion.
        The puppets will be Turkey and Israel. In the role of sponsors CA, Jordan, France, UK and USA.

        Now the question is only what will Russia and China do ....
      5. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 20 March 2013 23: 38 New
        0
        Vanga spoke of the fall of Syria and the great war until the 2015 year, we will wait for the prediction.
        I hope that they will not be true.
    2. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 10: 14 New
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      Quote: Arberes
      ! It was infa that ASAD turned to the BRIC countries for help

      Can you give more details?
    3. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 10: 19 New
      +3
      DAMASK, 16 March. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad called on the BRICS countries to intervene in the situation in Syria and put an end to the conflict in the country.

      Syrian Presidential Advisor on Political Affairs Butain Shaaban conveyed presidential address to South African President Jacob Zuma before the BRICS summit scheduled for March 26
      .
      More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/03/16/1106526.html Here is infa about Assad’s appeal to BRICS
    4. Skarte
      Skarte 20 March 2013 12: 02 New
      0
      "The Israelis also claim that rebels control two-thirds of Syrian territory, and Prime Minister Netanyahu asks the American president for permission to strike aerial targets on Syria... I don’t understand, is it a typo or is it really "Israel asks the US for permission to strike in Syria" ... then they don’t listen to anyone and just yesterday they hit, or all the same, Obama said "so be it, bomb" ... The UN has never fulfilled its functions, or rather performed, but only with permission! And now it’s completely insanity! Insanity grows stronger (
    5. Skarte
      Skarte 20 March 2013 12: 11 New
      +1
      "Israelis also claim that rebels control two-thirds of Syrian territory, and Prime Minister Netanyahu asks the American president permits to strike airstrikes on targets in Syria"... Something strange ... Recently Israel struck at the scientific center of Syria and said that they do not care about the UN and the public when it comes to their security ... And here on you, "surprise" they ask the US for permission to the bombing "and you can, we can bomb them" ... the US does not officially intervene (well, only officially), or someone blundered or someone surrendered someone) ... Insanity grows stronger :)
    6. vezunchik
      vezunchik 20 March 2013 15: 36 New
      0
      The next is Russia.
      1. Tourist Breakfast
        Tourist Breakfast 20 March 2013 17: 34 New
        +5
        The next is Russia.


        Aha

    7. Dilshat
      Dilshat 21 March 2013 00: 00 New
      0
      I wanted to say the same thing. When Libya, Dima iPhone prevented helping Libya. And what is stopping you from helping Syria? Where are the vaunted "asymmetric" answers? Iran and Syria will not last long alone. And China will be "friends" only with those who provide uninterrupted oil. China is already mutually dependent on the United States. After the capture of Iran, the fate of Byzantium awaits Russia.
  2. radio operator
    radio operator 20 March 2013 09: 12 New
    +2
    There also fighters used chemical weapons. True, the West immediately said that it was government troops that had used prohibited ammunition in their population.
    All the same, NATO members are going to "help the rebels" with a military operation.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 09: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: radio operator
      There also fighters used chemical weapons. True, the West immediately said that it was government troops that had used prohibited ammunition in their population.

      Bullshit is all, I think that there wasn’t any chemical weapon, the Americans are looking for a reason to get into it, like it was with Iraq. Well, if the Americans give a refutation, then yes, then the militants actually used chemical weapons.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 20 March 2013 10: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: radio operator
        There also fighters used chemical weapons. True, the West immediately said that it was government troops that had used prohibited ammunition in their population.
        All the same, NATO members are going to "help the rebels" with a military operation.

        In general, there is no logic to use chemical weapons against militants! Damage to them is unlikely to succeed, because they are conducting a guerrilla war, and there are many peaceful ones. and even the invasion of the country will begin, and Assad is not a suicide.
      2. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 13 New
        +3
        one way or another, and the pretext for the invasion has already been expressed by amers - this is the use of chemical weapons ... and whoever uses it to the bulb, Assad will definitely be for them ... so provocations on this topic will still follow, so that there is a pretext.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 20 March 2013 18: 44 New
          0
          Quote: DeerIvanovich
          one way or another, and the pretext for the invasion has already been expressed by amers - this is the use of chemical weapons ... and whoever uses it to the bulb, Assad will definitely be for them ... so provocations on this topic will still follow, so that there is a pretext.
          - exactly!
          Is it time to measure strength at least on a limited scale? What would you know who you have to deal with if plans go further ..
      3. Aleks28
        Aleks28 20 March 2013 11: 23 New
        +2
        US and UN authorities do not confirm information on the use of chemical weapons in Syria There is contact, then the use of chemical weapons has taken place.
      4. Pimply
        Pimply 20 March 2013 15: 32 New
        -16
        There were no questions in Iraq regarding the availability of chemical weapons. It was just and it was proved. The questions were biological.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 15: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Pimply
          There were no questions in Iraq regarding the availability of chemical weapons. It was just and it was proved. The questions were biological.
          Hi Eugene hi Reread the commission’s report, no weapons of mass destruction were found, only barrels with chemical residues were found. substances that could be components for the creation of BOV, or for the creation of agro-chemicals.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 11 New
            -2
            I repeat once again - the use and presence of chemical weapons has been proven.

            Since 2004, US forces have discovered about 500 chemical munitions in Iraq. Experts determined that most of them were made before the Gulf War in 1991. Ammunition contained mustard gas (mustard gas) and nerve gas sarin.

            The invasion of Iraq was caused, inter alia, by the development of biological weapons. Here it was not found.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 20 March 2013 20: 43 New
              +4
              Quote: Pimply
              US forces discover about 2004 chemical munitions in Iraq since 500

              Eugene, everything is possible, but give the facts, that there was something to start from. All the information that I found on the web suggests otherwise. Both the report of the British experts were the first to conduct research. Blair lost his post because of this.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 20 March 2013 23: 55 New
                -4
                For example, the report of a mission sent to the Secretary-General to investigate allegations of the use of chemical weapons during the conflict between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Iraq, dated March 12, 1986.

                Or here is the report of the UN investigation team
                http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/ от 2004 года.

                Rummaging - you will find mountains of reports on chemical weapons. But the biological was not found. And the bulk of the chemical weapons were destroyed in the 90s.
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 21 March 2013 00: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Pimply

                  Give a direct link, and then until the morning I will translate with me in English seams repeat request
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 21 March 2013 01: 24 New
                    -1
                    Google translate to help - modern technology on the march. But there were really no questions on chemical weapons. It was, its application has been repeatedly confirmed, however, it mainly fell on the 80s.

                    In the 90s, the bulk were destroyed, but, nevertheless, several caches remained.

                    Here, for example, a NTV report.
                    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/36989/

                    What the Americans really didn’t find was biological weapons - and that was one of the main accusations. However, UN experts made quite serious assumptions that a considerable part of chemical weapons and, possibly, biological ones, migrated to Syria. This is likely - Sadam was a companion persistent and practical in terms of WMD.

                    On the one hand, the reasons for invading Iraq were a stretch. On the other hand, there were quite a few real reasons for invading there.
                    1. Aleks28
                      Aleks28 21 March 2013 01: 42 New
                      0
                      quote; 36 mortar shells which, presumably, could contain poisonous substances, the Danish military discovered several tens of kilometers from the border with Iran. no Until now, Washington has not been able to find weapons of mass destruction in Saddam, which was one of the main reasons for starting a military action. wink A few days ago, 400 arms reprocessing specialists returned from Iraq to the United States, who were engaged in unsuccessful searches.. belay -This is all on your link.
            2. Aleks28
              Aleks28 20 March 2013 20: 46 New
              +3
              Results achieved

              1. No weapons found. As it turned out, there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and never did. The then US Secretary of State Colin Powell later admitted that, speaking to the world community, he used inaccurate, and sometimes falsified data on the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

              2. There were no contacts with Bin Laden. The connection between the Hussein regime and the al-Qaeda terrorist group has not been proven. Moreover, analysts believe that the al-Qaeda unit appeared in Iraq precisely after the start of the military operation. A few years after the outbreak of war in the US Senate, evidence was published that Hussein not only did not help al-Qaeda terrorists, but was at enmity with them
              Something like that request
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 20 March 2013 23: 57 New
                -3
                You read the originals of the materials, not their arrangement, plz.
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 21 March 2013 00: 06 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Pimply
                  You read the originals of the materials, not their arrangement, plz.

                  I read the report in translation naturally. document.
        2. Arkan
          Arkan 20 March 2013 15: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: Pimply
          There were no questions in Iraq regarding the availability of chemical weapons.

          Hussein’s chemical weapons factory was built by specialists from Germany, at the time when Sadam was a friend of the United States (more precisely, before the United States “threw it”). In such circumstances, Iraq’s chemical arsenals could not be an “excuse” laughing, So I had to pervert. laughing
        3. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 11 New
          -5
          Yes, frankly, it was not important whether it was there or not, Iraq had to be gouged as an act of higher justice. Although, in fact, Saddam completely got rid of him by 2003 (the fact that the Kurds he had poisoned there would confirm him). Thank you for uplifting Saddam, and even more thanks to hundreds and hundreds of sadistically raped and abused Iraqi girls for frying Saddam's frostbitten son from TOW. Thank you for giving Udeya a special thanks to all progressive humanity. The fact that chaos began there after that, and when they leave from there completely, Iran will come there and there will be a massacre, but their own good will, so to speak. It would now be true to see the whole house of the Saudis still hanged in the main square after they mock women, especially after the incident when they * s * burnt a whole boarding house with girls. Yes, and in the Qatari dynasty of Al-Thani, the rope cries. Nothing, God willing, the wind will change - we will live to this glorious event.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 20 March 2013 18: 46 New
            +5
            It would now be true to see the whole house of the Saudis still hanged in the main square after they mock women, especially after the incident when they * s * burnt a whole boarding house with girls. Yes, and in the Qatari dynasty of Al-Thani, the rope cries. Nothing, God willing, the wind will change - we will live to this glorious event

            With the last lines, I agree with you with a clear conscience.
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 20 March 2013 20: 07 New
            +7
            Quote: Hunter Thomson
            Yes, to be honest, it didn’t matter whether it was there or not, Iraq needed to be gouged as an act of higher justice
            - you know where the highest justice, and where not very high laughing I wouldn’t take so much on myself laughing
            Quote: Hunter Thomson
            thanks even more from hundreds and hundreds of sadistically raped and abused Iraqi girls for
            - it’s interesting, you are so worried about Iraqi girls, and you don’t pay attention to Jewish girls of Ethiopian origin, who in Israel without their consent and even carried out chemical sterilization.
            First, remove the log from the Israeli eye, and the Iraqis themselves will remove the specks in their eye.

            Quote: Hunter Thomson
            It would now be true to see the whole house of the Saudis still hanged in the main square after they mock women, especially after the incident when they * s * burnt a whole boarding house with girls. Yes, and in the Qatari dynasty of Al-Thani, the rope cries. Nothing, God willing, the wind will change - we will live to this glorious event.
            - but thank you here, I agree. Although I don’t care about their girls, and even before they live there, let them have fun on their premises as they want, but I really want to pay for the penny oil at the end of the 80s of the last century, and for financing terrorist attacks in Russia in zero , and here in Kazakhstan they pump up the bearded now. Only for these reasons.
            1. Hunter thomson
              Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 20: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: aksakal
              - it’s interesting, you are so worried about Iraqi girls, and you don’t pay attention to Jewish girls of Ethiopian origin, who in Israel without their consent and even carried out chemical sterilization.
              First, remove the log from the Israeli eye, and the Iraqis themselves will remove the specks in their eye.


              I answered you, but you do not go on old branches. And I needed time. In Russian, only a cheap plot of the ORT channel, while the anglonet was clambering, until it found the results of the investigation, this time takes. But in general, the argument is meaningless. I’m making a repost, my comment from an old topic.

              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              Your all your statements are full of emotions, you like to throw words like Hitler, Genocide, World Zionism. By the way, the terrible genocide of Ethiopians was found. 35 cases of confirmed and 104 unconfirmed contraceptive injections without the knowledge of women, each of which had 4 or more children. Investigation passed. Three doctors whose guilt has been proven suspended from practice, the investigation continues. You have some serious complexes. Your messages contain only emotions. You like loud phrases and hate Jews, as I understand it. I don’t have such problems, I always searched for the reasons for my successes and failures. I have no reason for envy. I have been to Israel many times, I have been on business trips in Britain for quite a long time, and I also travel to Germany a lot on business trips. There are many friends in the West, and I know their mentality, life values ​​and aspirations very well, like language. You live in a fictitious paranoid and there must be a frightening world full of evil Zionists, treacherous Britons and sinless saints and pure as Cherubim Rus, opposing the yoke of the Antichrist with horns and hooves. I am not a psychiatrist, and I will not be able to provide you with assistance on the Internet in any case. Continue your hysterical performance further



              Quote: aksakal
              I don’t care about their girls, and in general, before they live there, let them have fun in their squares as they want,


              When grown men cut each other, You can brush it off: Papuans have fun. When they kill defenseless girls and women, even in savage ways, as it was in Syria when mortar bombs were deliberately hit at school, or as in that terrible fire in the SA, when the girls were locked in a burning building and were not allowed to go outside and they burned alive, I have goosebumps. These are not their women, they are just women, and just children, just girls who they took and burned alive. You are probably a person with mental disabilities. It does not bother you, it does bother me, and I believe that for this barbarism and transcendent sadism they should suffer the most severe punishment. For sim, I bow.

              PS you can not answer me, the set of your arguments is small and I already know. And most importantly, unbalanced hysterical personalities annoy me a bit, spare me my emotions, I can’t wait for logic from you anyway.
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 21 March 2013 01: 39 New
                +3
                Quote: Hunter Thomson
                while the anglonet climbed, while he found the results of the investigation, this time takes.

                Yes, let’s read it wounded: “In the second weekend in December 2012, the Israeli television educational channel showed a report on the investigation of journalist Gabay Gal. A day later, the left-liberal newspaper Haaretz picked up the content of this program and published an article entitled "Why in Israel the birth rate among Ethiopian Jews is declining." The main accusation of the transfer is that allegedly in temporary camps in Gondar, Ethiopian Jews are forced to make injections of contraceptive drugs with a long-term effect by trick. Then some women say that they injected them against their will. Two days later, December 11, 2012 Haaretz added an article under the heading “Unthinkable Crime”. The author of the article is Judy Maltz, who, on behalf of Ahoti Women in Israel, takes care of women who immigrated from Ethiopia. She also spoke on behalf of the Israeli Association of Ethiopian Jews. Immediately in the first sentence, she states: “It’s hard to believe, but in Israel in 2012 Ethiopian women are forced to take contraceptive injections.” An editor in the English version Jerusalem Post recalled China and India, where the government, sometimes draconian measures, is trying to control the demographic situation. There are no concrete examples from the history of Israel, but Judy Maltz laments: “The injections that introduced these Ethiopians are part of Israel’s dominant attitude towards these immigrants” and concludes: “This repressive, racist and paternalistic policy continues unhindered.” The background to these allegations was An interview with Savva Reuven from 35 women of Ethiopian descent. Some of these women claimed that contraceptive injections were imposed on them under threat, otherwise they would be denied entry to Israel and would not receive any medical care, or: “A large number of children will complicate your life in Ethiopia and Israel.” Decisive role in all this, the “Civil Rights Association in Israel” (AGPI) plays. Sharon Eliyahu-Chai's lawyer on January 10, 2013, in a letter to Professor Roni Gamz, Director General of the Israeli Ministry of Health, tried to squeeze this question. She emphasized the “serious physical and psychological side effects of the drug” and expressed suspicion that a deliberate policy was being pursued to control and manage the birth rate of the Ethiopian community in Israel. “The findings indicate a despotic, arrogant and racist attitude that restricts the freedom of Ethiopian immigrants through contraception, which they must decide for themselves from a medical point of view,” writes Eliyahu-Chai. The AGPI statistics show that in 2008 Depo Provera introduced about 5.000 women, 57 percent of them came from Ethiopia. The foreign press speaks of “forced sterilization” So, On January 27, the British newspaper Independent picked up the topic and wrote an article: "Israel introduced contraceptives to Ethiopian Jews without their consent." In the text, readers are told: “In accordance with the law on the return from Israel to 1980, almost 100 Ethiopian Jews emigrated. But some rabbis doubt their Jewry. ”http://www.israelreport.ru/context/6295/izrailskie-debaty-o-rasizme
            2. igor67
              igor67 20 March 2013 21: 03 New
              +1
              - it’s interesting, you are so worried about Iraqi girls, and you don’t pay attention to Jewish girls of Ethiopian origin, who in Israel without their consent and even carried out chemical sterilization. Aksakal naf ... why write such garbage? Ethiopians give birth and get married and often for non-Ethiopians, beautiful girls,
        4. dusha233
          dusha233 20 March 2013 17: 23 New
          +4
          Again, this liar from Israel erupted !!! Hapnet grief and you yourself will be to blame !!!
        5. Sandov
          Sandov 20 March 2013 18: 42 New
          +1
          “We see terrorist organizations that are increasingly settling in this territory, and they are fighting against Assad,” said Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz at the same conference in Herzliya. - And you know what? We will be next in line. ”

          So this is the fault of Western countries, helping bandits, you drive yourself into a dead end.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 15 New
            0
            Before that, Hamas sat there - headquarters in Damascus.
            Quiet and peaceful organization. Syria entered the war with Israel 5 times, not counting the supply of Hezbollah during the second Lebanon. Both there and there are pitchforks.
        6. aksakal
          aksakal 20 March 2013 19: 54 New
          +5
          Quote: Pimply

          There were no questions in Iraq regarding the availability of chemical weapons. It was just and it was proved. The questions were biological.
          - Pimply, why have you smoked this? Well it hit your head! laughing
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 14 New
            -1
            Refute my words. I have facts. What do you have? The ability to question everything without the slightest evidence to the contrary? No biological weapons were found - fact. The chemical was found, used both in the Iran-Iraq war and in the course of cleansing the Kurds - a fact.
          2. GG2012
            GG2012 20 March 2013 21: 08 New
            +5
            Quote: aksakal
            - Pimply, why have you smoked this? Well it hit your head!

            They have a generic predisposition transmitted by inheritance.
            And it all started ... with this ... who talked with the bush talking.
            fellow
  3. Vanek
    Vanek 20 March 2013 09: 12 New
    0
    According to the head of the Israeli military intelligence, Assad’s troops are preparing to use chemical weapons against the opposition.

    Yesterday, I don’t remember where I read the opposite. And that they say they’ve already applied.

    Who is in the know? Or are they bullies?
    1. PISTOL
      PISTOL 20 March 2013 09: 15 New
      +3
      25 people died as a result of the launch of rockets by Syrian fighters in a residential area of ​​the city of Khan al-Assal, Aleppo province, about 110 others were injured, many are in serious condition. The Syrian agency SANA reports that the missile launched was with a chemical warhead.

      The type of chemical used is not reported, but there are many people with burns to the upper respiratory tract. Opposition sources accused government forces of using chemical weapons.

      This despite the fact that about 16 soldiers died ...

      Shcha will begin a mess, or the west will go on the attack or Russia with China and Iran
    2. Mart
      20 March 2013 09: 26 New
      +3
      In the "Mosaic" read today.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 20 March 2013 09: 44 New
        +3
        So quickly. Can not wait.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 20 March 2013 15: 04 New
        0
        dear Oleg!
        I always read your articles with interest !!
        If you can explain your conclusions from what they are made - ***
        Now Israel has started Syria.

        A few days ago, Israeli military intelligence chief Aviv Kokhawi said ........ *** then there is an analysis and assessment of the situation! As the intelligence leader of a neighboring country, he must have information and track it !!
        Does this say that Israel took over Syria yesterday ??
        It seems to me frivolous!
        1. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 21 New
          -2
          Israel will take up Syria only when there is a real threat of chemical weapons being hit by nobody, all this time (for two years already) Israel has simply watched and did not intervene. In general, the information is some kind of left. If there was a threat of losing control of chemical arsenals, then Israel would not need any US approval. Therefore, the muddy story from the series One Baba Said. (and the other retold)
    3. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 16 New
      +4
      Yes, not Assad’s troops, but bandyuki trawled people. I don’t root for Assad in this match, but he is not a complete nutter and not a suicide. He will not personally use chemical weapons. Fuck such adventures were not given to him.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 16 New
        -2
        If there is an edge, it will become.
  4. Slevinst
    Slevinst 20 March 2013 09: 45 New
    +3
    and Prime Minister Netanyahu asks the American president for permission to launch airstrikes on targets in Syria
    Can Ipanus, this hell is that navel of the earth?
    And then they are surprised that the pilots lost their conscience, while they themselves are licking under their tail, Whore Netanyahu!
    Syria hold on! crush nits!
  5. Arkan
    Arkan 20 March 2013 09: 48 New
    +5
    Jews are vile, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the world.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 20 March 2013 10: 43 New
      -11
      Quote: Arkan
      Jews are vile, bloodthirsty creatures, and as long as this offspring exists

      You need to have a brain of cancer, in order to plus such a comment
      1. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 10: 47 New
        0
        There is no brain, so how will its cancer be? If only cancer instead of the brain.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 20 March 2013 10: 50 New
          -2
          Something like this ...
        2. Arkan
          Arkan 20 March 2013 11: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: Hunter Thomson
          There is no brain, so how will its cancer be? If only cancer instead of brain

          laughing I’ve got twenty crayfish in my refrigerator right now (I caught it yesterday), I guess something told him something ... Envy. laughing
      2. SSR
        SSR 20 March 2013 15: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Rumata
        to add a similar comment

        Maybe he looked at it)))
        http://youtu.be/I9EOImNMOrg
        [media = http: //youtu.be/I9EOImNMOrg]
        It's about Chabad Lubavitch ... about their "teaching" or about Shneur Zalman was revered and what Yitzhak Ginzburg writes in "Jewish Week" on April 26, 1996.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 17 New
          0
          It is very commendable that you, apparently not really familiar with what CHABAD is, are quoting racist, Nazi and Holocaust denier David Duke.
          1. FATEMOGAN
            FATEMOGAN 20 March 2013 21: 09 New
            +5
            Quote: Pimply
            quote racist, Nazi and Holocaust denier David Duke.

            As you attached it, with one left, you forgot only to add another fashionable cliche - anti-Semite. It is interesting why Zionists love him so much, maybe because he finds and shows fascist statements and publications of Zionists, which they are not particularly shy about and print in the leading American and Israeli media. He speaks of such statements by the Zionists, from which blood runs cold, someone will say something like that will immediately ring in jail with a bouquet of accusations from the spread of Nazism to the propaganda of extremism, and from the Zionists like goose’s water, it’s possible for them - they are God-chosen! !!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 21 March 2013 00: 01 New
              -2
              Have you read his writings? Hitler must also be browing. Yes, and this is in Russia, which was so vaccinated against this disease that you wouldn’t wish anyone like that ...
              1. FATEMOGAN
                FATEMOGAN 21 March 2013 02: 05 New
                +4
                Quote: Pimply
                Have you read his writings? Hitler must also be browing. Yes, and this is in Russia, which was so vaccinated against this disease that you wouldn’t wish anyone like that ...

                I watched his speeches and I can see that he does not give any gag, but only makes a repost of Zionist statements from the open press, and Hitler is far from these statements. Hitler was condemned and branded, and these comrades do not bear any responsibility for their Zionist fascism, they will say the maximum - well, what are you listening to some old man, and then like water from a geese, or as you just did -

                Quote: Pimply
                Hitler brow too


                I was immediately accused of fascism and anti-Semitism .. For me, Jews and Zionists are completely different people, it’s like a normal Russian person and a sick Neanderthal man (he doesn’t want to call the Russian language) throwing up his hand in greeting. So there is no need to delve into my eye, first look at your own before defending the Nazis.
      3. GG2012
        GG2012 20 March 2013 21: 20 New
        +9
        Quote: Rumata
        You need to have a brain of cancer, in order to plus such a comment


        Without a Russian lyrical mat,
        I can’t look at Rumata’s comments.
        And seeing how Nature was wrong
        Having created the antipode for Man,
        I understand why Rumata is strange !!!
        Everything is very simple, because Rumata is wooden !!!
        And therefore there is no worse picture
        What is the delirium of Israeli Pinocchio!
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 20 March 2013 21: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: GG2012
          Without a Russian lyrical mat,

          No comments! good
    2. SSR
      SSR 20 March 2013 10: 49 New
      +8
      Quote: Arkan
      Jews are vile, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the world.

      Do you know in which city most Jews live? ))) this is New York)) and then Tel Aviv (or even in third place ..)
      I already wrote something .. and the guys from Israel were offended for some reason .. although they’re offended .. they can be proud of dragging each other (out of a conversation. the guy whom the other Jew recommended would turn to an influential Jew .. he comes to Stas. Stas gives him a chance .. a place, a launching pad .. and if he copes .. then he’s moved on .. if not then that’s all .. the chance is lost .. but those that manage they go the same way and continue to do the same ..this is such a ladder / chain .. But a completely different question is that part of this elite has become completely rootless ... fucked up and generally runs up ... and so ..
      As you know, at the expense of American Jews, most Jews in the world live. And this is not surprising: in America there are no fewer Jews than in the rest of the world combined. How did it happen? How did it happen that now there are fewer Jews in the originally densely Jewish-settled Israel and Eastern Europe than in the recently opened New World? How did the Jews in America achieve such honor and respect as they do not see anywhere else on the planet? How do they manage to demonstrate such an increase in the Jewish population, which is available only to the Chinese in China?
      There are so many Jews in America that they are everywhere and everywhere. Probably among those who fish in Alaska and get oil in Texas, there are also Jews of their own. But still, the largest number of people of Jewish nationality live in New York, where they settled in Brighton Beach and in California, where they are lodged by YMCA, an association of Jewish immigrants. In the sunny state, they do not cultivate grapes, as one might assume, but a computer field. In engineering Ohio, they introduce their own inventions, and in Florida they own the largest hotels with the best access to the coolest beaches.

      And on dividends from all these profitable activities, American Jews build synagogues, create basketball teams on the basis of local Maccabi clubs, do charity work and promote their representatives to the highest authorities. Which, by the way, even at the very top, never disown their Jewish relatives and in every possible way advertise their Jewish origin.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 20 March 2013 10: 56 New
        -11
        Quote: SSR
        There are so many Jews in America that they are everywhere and everywhere.

        Jews make up about 2% of the US population ...
        1. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 10: 59 New
          14
          Always a Jew is easily visible everywhere,
          you can hear a Jew right from the doorway
          there are very few Jews on the planet
          but every Jew is a lot


          Jews tear and dare
          Everywhere, yeast crawls into the dough,
          That's why they cut us off
          To take up less space

          G. Huberman
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 20 March 2013 11: 08 New
            -10
            "..On their side, though there are no laws
            The support and enthusiasm of millions ... "
            [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_detailpage & v = 92jx0cZLupw]
            1. DeerIvanovich
              DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 27 New
              +7
              forgot to add: slaves.
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 20 March 2013 10: 59 New
        +7
        Quote: SSR
        Do you know in which city most Jews live?

        The fact is that with the advent of Israel, the vast majority of Jews in the World became Zionists (Israel for them is a kind of "reserve airfield", where you can dump by making your own gesheft in the USA, Russia, Ukraine ... this largely determines the line of their existence), and literally half a century ago, there were significantly fewer Zionists among Jews.
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 11: 24 New
          -10
          Quote: Arkan
          The fact is that with the advent of Israel, the vast majority of Jews in the world became Zionists


          If you do not know the essence of Zionism why use this word.

          "Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel"

          Zionism, in fact, existed only until 1948. After the formation of the state of Israel, by decision of the United Nations, the task of Zionism was accomplished. There is a state of Israel and Zionism has lost its meaning.
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 March 2013 11: 36 New
            +8
            Quote: Beck
            There is a state of Israel and Zionism has lost its meaning.

            Seriously, in Jewish Israel itself, it makes no sense, Judea was part of ancient Israel only one reign of Seoul (and, if you believe the Bible, David. But this is nowhere and not confirmed by anyone). With the same success, Poland or Finland can claim to territory of Russia laughing, and the Arabs know this. Leave the territory of ancient Judea to the Jews - and everyone will be happy laughing .
          2. Aleks28
            Aleks28 20 March 2013 11: 47 New
            +7
            Quote: Beck
            . After the formation of the state of Israel, by decision of the United Nations, the task of Zionism was accomplished. There is a state of Israel and Zionism has lost its meaning.

            About how simple it is for you. The UN also said a point. But the word Zionist has migrated to the present and is currently synonymous with the word Jewish nationalist. yesBy the way, this term is used in the media.
          3. Aleks28
            Aleks28 20 March 2013 11: 56 New
            +3
            Here's a quote to you, the Jews themselves write (some Shiglik)Modern Zionism must ensure the preservation and strengthening of the Jewish state as the basis for the existence of world Jewry, which is threatened by the new Holocausts and the still ubiquitous anti-Semitism.
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 12: 04 New
              -8
              Quote: Allex28
              Here is a quote for you, the Jews themselves are writing (some Shiglik). Modern Zionism should ensure the preservation and strengthening of the Jewish state as the basis for the existence of world Jewry, which is threatened by new Holocausts and still ubiquitous anti-Semitism.


              Well, this is the second task. A concern for the new Holocaust will be because there are such statements.

              Arkan (1) Today, 09:48 a new
              4 Jews are ravenous, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the World.


              You, personally, do not care about such an expression if instead of the word Jew you put the word Russian.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 20 March 2013 12: 15 New
                +7
                Quote: Beck
                You, personally, do not care about such an expression if instead of the word Jew you put the word Russian.

                They put, believe me, they put yes I just look at it with a proper share of irinia, and the Jews immediately start screaming about the Holocaust. If you know from history, then Hitler called for the annihilation of not only Jews, but also Russians, only unlike Zionists, The Russians defended themselves, and did not prefer to sit out in the ghetto. PS: I deliberately used the word Zionist, so as not to offend those Jews who in arms fought against Nazism.
                1. Hunter thomson
                  Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 12: 23 New
                  -6
                  You mean such Zionists as Moshe Dayan, a knight of the Order of the Red Banner of War, who, at a Kiev crossing, sitting down two companies of German submachine gunners, put and held a penny until the Red Army approached alone?
                  1. Aleks28
                    Aleks28 20 March 2013 12: 38 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Hunter Thomson
                    You mean such Zionists as Moshe Dayan, a knight of the Order of the Red Banner of War, who, at a Kiev crossing, sitting down two companies of German submachine gunners, put and held a penny until the Red Army approached alone?

                    Believe it yourself. You just needed heroes, and they were stamped, although there may have been a feat, but less bright. PS: According to official sources, Moshe destroyed quoting:"to the company of enemy soldiers" , and you already have a second belay lol This is how myths are born. stop
                    1. Hunter thomson
                      Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 12: 53 New
                      -2
                      To the company is also not bad. In the Warsaw ghetto, too, people didn’t really "kick the kaladu", and in Sobibor they didn’t really relax. But now they have up to 200 nuclear warheads, according to experts (although how do they know? So they figured out how much plutonium can be used up) it will be something to fight back. And judging by the number of people who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, if I were a Jewish prime minister I would even go with a nuclear suitcase.
                      1. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 20 March 2013 14: 47 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Hunter Thomson
                        To the company is not bad either

                        Yes, at least 10 is a feat, but simply with these exaggerations the price of the feat only falls, but does not increase, because everyone understands that the fact is bloated and people begin to doubt whether there was a feat.
                      2. Ascetic
                        Ascetic 20 March 2013 16: 00 New
                        10
                        Quote: Hunter Thomson
                        So they figured out how much plutonium can be produced on the eye) will be something to fight back. And judging by the number of people who want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, if I were a Jewish prime minister I would even go with a nuclear suitcase.


                        Don’t tell me, even the presence of 1000 warheads will not save Israel, in the case of this scenario, Israeli dentists and balding specialists will work well at best. I had such a case in practice, now it has already turned into a kind of bike and overgrown with various details. I will say this briefly in 1990. during the stop of the Topol rdn on the march, two Armenians quite seriously offered to sell them a rocket for 10mln rubles (where they came from in this wilderness they only knew from the marching torture regimental special officer, where they successfully proceeded after tasting the roadside dust of the Russian hinterland). The dialogue was something like this (I didn’t hear it myself because the curse was doing everything in the world to resuscitate the APU, which completely refused to accept modes and commands with its electronic brain)
                        A. And where can I buy such a rocket?
                        A. Why do you need it?
                        And the Azerbaijanis hit what will happen
                        A. There will be no one
                        AA how much?
                        About 10 mln.s rubles (from the bulldozer)
                        And a pause .. here we consulted with relatives - we take
                        O. (Lightly oohtaken aback by such impudence) But don't you feel sorry for yourself? Those will not be right away, and you will die long and painfully in Armenia (the colorful story of the fate of poor Russians with nuclear weapons went on)
                        And now oohthe unlucky buyers were taken aback to fix the information, they kindly agreed to lie face down a little while waiting for the special officer, with parting words in the future, seeing such a column run away to the hell as quickly as possible in order to avoid accidents on the road.
                        So for Israel, possession of nuclear weapons is more likely a suicide and not an argument of strength, especially since the Americans give me the KBU ciphers by indirect signs.
                        And the unleashing of a local nuclear war by Israel is a guaranteed death sentence or a new holocaust.
                        The Strategic Missile Forces have orders to launch
                        1. Impact object
                        2.Blow area
                        3.Blow general (all)

                        One guess which of these orders will be chosen for Israel.
                      3. Arkan
                        Arkan 20 March 2013 17: 09 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        And the unleashing of a local nuclear war by Israel is a guaranteed death sentence or a new holocaust.
                        The Strategic Missile Forces have orders to launch
                        1. Impact object
                        2.Blow area
                        3.Blow general (all)

                        One guess which of these orders will be chosen for Israel.

                        Israel (with its territory and population) has two possibilities to launch a nuclear strike: 1) first; 2) never. But maybe they managed to place their nuclear weapons on two Israeli submarines (all other means will be destroyed if they strike Israel with using nuclear weapons). What do you think - can Israel now have a nuclear potential in the sea for a retaliatory strike (it doesn’t matter who the enemy is).
                      4. Pimply
                        Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 19 New
                        -7
                        At the moment there are 4 boats, for starters. Another will be transferred shortly.
                        Further, you exclude aviation capable of carrying nuclear weapons, and missiles - and both have Israel.
                    2. Hunter thomson
                      Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 32 New
                      -6
                      Well, except as a nuclear strike, Israel cannot be destroyed. The Arabs do not have such military strength, but if Iran nevertheless succeeds in bombing and bombing Israel (I don’t know what targets for a missile strike appear in Israeli warrants), but in addition to Tehran, I would strike at the Bushehr nuclear power plant. Chernobl was a terrible catastrophe, but it was only from one relatively low-power reactor that a small part of the fissile material escaped. A strike at the Bushehr nuclear power plant will instantly vaporize hundreds and hundreds of tons of fissile material, and millions of square kilometers will become a lifeless radioactive desert. So when they say that Israel is a country of one bomb, then Iran also has only one bomb, and Russia, well, three four, the question is where to strike. And understanding and awareness of this fact is sobering. Even Iranian hotheads have a bit of “ration”.
                    3. FATEMOGAN
                      FATEMOGAN 20 March 2013 21: 27 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Hunter Thomson
                      Even Iranian hotheads have a bit of “ration”.

                      Iran then rattles ratio, it is a pity that Israel has this tight fool
                    4. saturn.mmm
                      saturn.mmm 20 March 2013 21: 36 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Hunter Thomson
                      and Russia, well, three four, the question is where to beat.

                      And what will Russia be from 3-4? Moscow is likely to beat it off, and the destruction of 3-4 regional centers will not solve anything. But imagine what will happen to the country that will decide on this.
                  2. DeerIvanovich
                    DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 18: 50 New
                    0
                    ay-ay-ay, a napalnik, swearing is not good, it was possible to squeak, smart people would have guessed so laughing
                    set you minus for the first time, there’s nothing to accustom to!
                  3. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 20 March 2013 19: 44 New
                    +3
                    Quote: DeerIvanovich
                    there’s nothing to accustom to the contingent!


                    Our contingent is difficult to accustom to anything, whoever you want to accustom yourself smile
                  4. DeerIvanovich
                    DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 20: 25 New
                    +1
                    I parry: Ascetic should be accustomed to asceticism, and not vice versa, otherwise what kind of ascetic is he. repeat
                    and always put a minus for a mat and I will put it. this attack is not in your direction of Ascetic, but in the direction of a minus signer, who apparently with coolness refers to criticism of your previous post.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 20 March 2013 15: 35 New
          -4
          He was not a Knight of the Order of the Red Banner. Myths and legends
        3. family
          family tree 20 March 2013 21: 39 New
          +2
          You mean such Zionists as Moshe Dayan, a knight of the Order of the Red Banner of War, who, at a Kiev crossing, sitting down two companies of German submachine gunners, put and held a penny until the Red Army approached alone?
          Enchanting and fantastic nonsense of Weller. He did not stand close there.
        4. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 20 March 2013 21: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: Hunter Thomson
          You mean such Zionists as Moshe Dayan, a knight of the Order of the Red Banner of War, who, at a Kiev crossing, sitting down two companies of German submachine gunners, put and held a penny until the Red Army approached alone?

          Moshe Dayan was never in the Red Army. He is from the "young" guard of Israel, like Yitzhak Rabin and Ariel Sharon.
          Although we must pay tribute to the fact that the founders of the Jewish self-defense units from which the IDF grew up were Joseph Trumpeldor and Yakov Sne, the St. George cavaliers and participants in the Civil War in command posts in the Red Army.
        5. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 20 March 2013 22: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Hunter Thomson

          You mean such Zionists as Moshe Dayan, a knight of the Order of the Red Banner of War, who, at a Kiev crossing, sitting down two companies of German submachine gunners, put and held a penny until the Red Army approached alone?

          Rather, "imposed for two companies of German submachine gunners.
      3. Beck
        Beck 20 March 2013 12: 31 New
        -5
        Quote: Allex28
        They put it, believe me, I put it. I just look at it with a fair share of irinia, and the Jews immediately start yelling about the Holocaust. If you know from history, Hitler called for the elimination of not only Jews, but also Russians, only unlike the Zionists, the Russians defended themselves, and did not prefer to sit in the ghetto. PS: I deliberately used the word Zionist, so as not to offend those Jews who were fighting with arms in arms against Nazism.


        Well, why are you chewing gum. Somehow, not so, so commercials, with an intelligent look, but nevertheless slander the whole people.

        Give an example on this site where the word jew is replaced by Russian. Torment site archive shovel.

        Hitler, in addition to killing Slavs and Asians, also prepared for them the fate of slaves. The Jews, however, destroyed completely. Be ashamed to compare civilians scattered throughout Europe with a Sovereign State. The Jews of Europe did not have institutions of statehood and their army.

        Now the Jews have their own state and they are giving to the teeth of those who want to arrange a second Holocaust by dumping and drowning all Jews in the sea.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 12: 53 New
          +7
          Quote: Beck
          Now the Jews have their own state and they are giving to the teeth of those who want to arrange a second Holocaust by dumping and drowning all Jews in the sea.

          Who do they give to the teeth of the Palestinians? Don’t make me laugh.
          Quote: Beck
          Well, why are you chewing gum. Somehow, not so, so commercials, with an intelligent look, but nevertheless slander the whole people.

          I don’t row anyone and no one anywhere. Just to each his own.
          Quote: Beck
          Hitler, in addition to killing Slavs and Asians, also prepared for them the fate of slaves. The Jews, however, destroyed completely.

          Some kind of Hitler was unintelligible. He had so many Jews in his hands, but he didn’t even destroy 1/4, somehow it turns out weird with the story.
          1. Beck
            Beck 20 March 2013 13: 25 New
            -4
            Quote: Allex28
            Who do they give to the teeth of the Palestinians? Don’t make me laugh.


            Well, it even became uncomfortable from such words. If I give examples of the opposite, I will put you in an awkward position of a person who does not know the essence and speaks nonsense. But I will say.

            In 1948, the UN in the former Mandatory Territory of England, Palestine allocated land for Jews and Arabs. And to the Arabs in the historical land of the Jews with the biblical cities of Bethlehem and Scheme. Jews, after 2000 years, rejoiced in this.

            The Arabs in the person of the LAS did not agree with this. They stated that all the lands are Arab, and the Jews must be drowned in the sea. In1948, the army Seven Arab states - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen attacked the Jews. Jews survived in fierce, unequal battles. Only Egypt occupied Gaza, and Jordan the West Bank, that is, Palestine. And the occupation lasted 19 years. And this Egypt and Jordan did not allow the Palestinians to build their state. They simply incorporated these lands into their states.

            In 1967, Egypt, Syria and Jordan attacked Israel and got some on the teeth, some on the head, and some kick in the ass. And only after that Palestine came under Israeli control.

            In 1973, Egypt and Syria again attacked Israel. They again tapped on the head. Israeli tanks already stood behind Suez, on the highway leading to Cairo and beyond the Golan Heights, on the highway leading to Damascus. And then the Arabs tearfully asked the UN to intervene. He passed a ceasefire resolution and Israel withdrew its troops.

            Now Israel in Palestine, in fact, protects only the external borders. In Palestine, they elect their own parliament, their mayors. There is its own police.

            Quote: Allex28
            Some kind of Hitler was unintelligible. He had so many Jews in his hands, but he didn’t even destroy 1/4, somehow it turns out weird with the story.


            Yeah. Looks like cynicism. Hitler destroyed as much as he could. He did not rest. The production line of the conveyor belt for killing people in the death camps was at its peak. They could not destroy beyond the technical characteristics. If Hitler had been given another two years, he would have destroyed all the Jews of Europe. What would you calm down then?
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 20 March 2013 14: 34 New
              +6
              Quote: Beck
              In 1948, the UN in the former Mandatory Territory of England, Palestine allocated land for Jews and Arabs.

              This is where all the beauty begins, you can imagine that in your home country some kind of UN allocates land to create an independent state. Do you reconcile, I’ll answer for you NO
              Quote: Beck
              Well, it even became uncomfortable from such words. If I give examples of the opposite, I will put you in an awkward position of a person who does not know the essence and speaks nonsense. But I will say.
              > I know the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict no worse than yours.
            2. Arkan
              Arkan 20 March 2013 14: 58 New
              +7
              Quote: Allex28
              This is where all the beauty begins, you can imagine that in your home country some kind of UN allocates land to create an independent state. Do you reconcile, I’ll answer for you NO

              All this "beauty" began with the fact that England promised the Palestinians independence in exchange for help in the fight against the Ottoman Empire, and England also promised the Jews their state (in Uganda) for helping to fight the Ottoman Empire. But to one Jew from Russia, how in this way, it was possible to convince one high-ranking Englishman of the need to create a Jewish state in Palestine ... Since then, the story of this lie has begun: in the beginning, the Arabs promised that there would be only a "Jewish national hearth" in Palestine consisting of several buildings with a garden .. ., then they were promised that no more than 70 Jews would emigrate to Palestine ... as a result, the Palestinians are still fighting for their state and the "Jewish national hearth" is growing. It is not surprising that they slipped into terrorism, in fact - they don’t left no choice.
            3. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 15: 04 New
              -5
              Quote: Allex28
              This is where all the beauty begins, you can imagine that in your home country some kind of UN allocates land to create an independent state. Do you reconcile, I’ll answer for you NO


              Again do not know the history of the issue.

              The Palestinian state never existed in history. There was a geographical territory which since the 1st century AD was called Palestine. It's like Valdai, the Urals.

              About 1300 BC, Jews came from Egypt to the former land of Canaan. There lived Filimstilians, descendants of the assimilation of the "peoples of the sea" and the ancient Canaan. The Jews called them somehow Pelistim, hence the name of the territory - Palestine - subsequently occurred. The Jews conquered these lands and created their state of Israel. Which subsequently split into Israel proper and Judea. In 70 years BC, Israel and Judea were conquered by the legions of the consul Gnei Pompey and the Jewish kingdoms received the status of autonomy. In the years 70-74 there was a nationwide Jewish rebellion against Rome. The uprising was brutally crushed. Rome relocated most of the Jews, as slaves, to other provinces. This was one of the first, but the main scattering of the Jews in the wide world. Autonopia of Israel and Judea was eliminated. And was created, by Rome, on these lands the new province is Palestine.

              Subsequently, the province, and not the state, was part of the Byzantine Empire. And only with the formation of the Arab caliphate, in the 7 century, these lands began to be inhabited by Arabs. Then Palletisna entered the Ottoman Empire. After the First World War, it became mandated territory of England. And after 2MB, UN allocated land in the territory, not the state, Palestine Jews and Arabs. Jews after 2000 years of persecution agreed to this. The Arabs wanted to take all the land and attacked regularly. So that the Arab state of Palestine never existed. Since the 7th century, Arabs have been living together with Jews in ancient Jewish land.

              Quote: Allex28
              I know the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict no worse than yours.


              If you know, then what was to write.

              Quote: Allex28
              Who do they give to the teeth of the Palestinians? Don’t make me laugh.
            4. Arkan
              Arkan 20 March 2013 15: 23 New
              +8
              Quote: Beck
              Which subsequently split into Israel proper and Judea. In 70 years BC, Israel and Judea were conquered by the legions of the consul Gnei Pompey and the Jewish kingdoms received the status of autonomy. In the years 70-74 there was a nationwide Jewish rebellion against Rome. The uprising was brutally crushed. Rome relocated most of the Jews, as slaves, to other provinces. This was one of the first, but the main scattering of the Jews in the wide world. Autonopia of Israel and Judea was eliminated. And was created, by Rome, on these lands a new province - Palestine.

              laughing It seems that every generation of Jews writes the history of Palestine based on their interests. I advise you to read the works of a JEWISH historian, SONIST, Joseph Kasteyn - you will find a lot of contradictions with the "history" that you posted here. laughing
            5. Aleks28
              Aleks28 20 March 2013 15: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: Beck
              Again do not know the history of the issue.

              And you call this nonsense the history of the issue? I read this nonsense, but the trouble is not even for me a very knowledgeable person, a lot of questions have arisen. And geneticists have confirmed my doubts, plus Jewish historians themselves (not everything is true) claim that Jews are in Palestine no relation whatsoever.
            6. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 17: 01 New
              -3
              Quote: Allex28
              And you call this nonsense the history of the issue?


              This is not Nosovsky and Fomenko, this is the official story with the dates of centuries and years. And they were created not by the most learned scholarly historian, but by entire generations of historians for at least the last three centuries. If you think this is nonsense, then I can not imagine other arguments. I will not feed you with the actually invented nonsense.

              Here is what you wrote in the second part, read it yourself again. What kind of genetics? What did they confirm? What follows from what?

              Jews and Arabs related peoples belong to the Semitic group. Yes, initially the Jews did not live where they live now. The most kindred people to them are the Babylonians who were also Semites. And the Jewish tribe, at one time, came out of Babylon. And the river Euphrates crossed. "Ivr" translates as go. Jews who have crossed over. Something like this. And the Jews went with their herds to the southwest of Babylon for many years. Passed the land of Canaan, Sinai and settled in Egypt. In 1300 BC, Sinai again crossed and settled on the land of the Philistines, creating their own states of Israel and Judea. And there were no present Arabs on that land. Arabs bordered on the Jews, yes. From the sands of Arabia.

              Or you say that I made it up. This story was collected in pieces by scientists for many, many years.
            7. Aleks28
              Aleks28 20 March 2013 19: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Beck
              Or you say that I made it up

              Better show on the map where the biblical Jews crossed the sea? If you are such an expert.
        2. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 16: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Beck
          Again do not know the history of the issue.

          And they evaded the question that I specifically raised, so they do not lead discussions. So who is we chewing on?
      4. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 36 New
        -3
        Quote: Allex28
        This is where all the beauty begins, you can imagine that in your home country some kind of UN


        So in what your native? what country was there before? There was an English colony, and before that a Turkish one. What was the Arab country, tell me, tell us all its name?
      5. Aleks28
        Aleks28 20 March 2013 19: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Hunter Thomson
        So in what your native? what country was there before?

        I’m not to Palestine or to the Jews nor by any side, a little more carefully, read the comments.
  6. Aleks28
    Aleks28 20 March 2013 14: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Beck
    Now Israel in Palestine, in fact, protects only the external borders. In Palestine, they elect their own parliament, their mayors. There is its own police.

    Do not carry nonsense. How can you protect your borders in a foreign country. no
    Quote: Beck
    Yeah. Looks like cynicism. Hitler destroyed as much as he could.

    As for cynicism, you’re right, but I didn’t start, just the numbers of victims of the Holocaust are monstrously overstated. I do not deny the Holocaust, but categorically against those figures given by Jewish historians.
  7. Aleks28
    Aleks28 20 March 2013 15: 02 New
    +3
    Well, a snack on the Israeli appetite.
  • family
    family tree 20 March 2013 21: 53 New
    +5
    Some kind of Hitler was unintelligible. He had so many Jews in his hands, but he didn’t even destroy 1/4, somehow it turns out weird with the story.
    Colonel Walter Hollander, whose mother was Jewish, received a personal letter from Hitler, in which the Führer certified the Aryanism of this halachic Jew. The same certificates of "German blood" were signed by Hitler for dozens of senior officers of Jewish origin.
    The rest is here: http: //tinklai.dkd.lt/humor/jews_III_raih.htm. Everyone was saved as he could recourse
    Another interesting fact:
    The national composition of prisoners of war in the USSR
    in the period from 22.06.1941/2.09.1945/XNUMX to XNUMX
    Germans 2389560
    Japanese 639635
    Hungarians 513767
    Romanian 187370
    Austrians 156682
    Czechs 69977
    Poles 60280
    Italians Xnumx
    French 23136
    Yugoslavs 21822
    Moldavians 14129
    12928 Chinese
    Jews 10173 (! More than Finns, Danes, and Norwegians!)
    Koreans 7785
    Dutch 4729
    Mongols 3608
    Finns 2377
    Belgians 2010
    Luxembourgers 1652
    Danes Xnumx
    Spaniards 452
    Gypsies 383
    Norwegians Xnumx
    Swedes Xnumx
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 21 March 2013 00: 06 New
      -2
      Hollander during the war years was awarded the Iron Crosses of both degrees and a rare distinction - the Golden German Cross. Hollander received the Knight's Cross in July 1943, when his anti-tank brigade destroyed 21 Soviet tanks on the Kursk in one battle. Walter was given leave; in the Reich he traveled through Warsaw. It was there that he was shocked by the sight of the destroyed Jewish ghetto. To the front, Hollander returned spiritually broken; personnel officers inscribed in his personal file - "too independent and unmanageable", hacking his promotion to the rank of general.
  • TUMAN
    TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 29 New
    +6
    Quote: Beck
    Hitler, in addition to killing Slavs and Asians, also prepared for them the fate of slaves. The Jews, however, destroyed completely.

    Beck! For you personally!
    The SS collaborated with the Zionist underground paramilitary organization in Palestine Hagan, supporting emigration and even smuggling weapons for the Zionists. Despite all his fears, Hitler continued to contribute to the implementation of the Zionist plans in Palestine (Nicosia, F. (1985). Third Reich. P. 63-64, 105, 141-144, 219-220; Wistrich, R. (1985). On Hitler's Critical View Of Zionism In Mem Kampf. See Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted In: Hitler's Apocalypse, p. 155).


    Hitler told his military adjutant in 1939 and again in 1942 that he had turned to Great Britain with a request to remove all Jews from Germany to Palestine or Egypt (Kotze, 1974, Heeresadjutant Bei Hitler, Stuttgart, p. 65,95). The UK rejected his offer, as it “could lead to even greater instability.”


    As the United Kingdom imposed restrictions on immigrating Jews to Palestine in the late 1930s, the SS entered into a secret agreement with the underground Zionist agency Mossad Le Alia Beth, according to which Jews were illegally transported to Palestine. As a result, the legal and illegal migration of Jews to Palestine from Germany, including Austria, increased markedly in 1938-1939. 10.000 Jews were supposed to emigrate in October 1939, but the war prevented this. In 1940-1941 and until the end of March 1942, Germany still facilitated the emigration of Jews to Palestine, and in Germany there was at least one official kibbutz to train potential emigrants (Arad, Y., 1981, Documents On The Holocaust, p 155; Barnes Review, 1995, Secrets of the Mossad. Sept. p. 11).


    The Havarian agreement between Nazi Germany and the Palestinian center of the World Zionist Organization was vital for the Zionists from an economic perspective. It began in 1933 and operated until the end of the 30s, making it possible to transfer Jewish wealth to Palestine. According to this agreement, “Hitler's Third Reich did more for the resettlement of Jews in Palestine than any other European state” (Feilchenfeld, W., 1972, Haavara-Transfer Nach Palustina. Tilbingen: Mohr / Siebeck; Yisraeli, David, 1971, The Third Reich And The Transfer Agreement, Journal Of Contemporary History. London. No. 2. p. 129-148; Encyclopedia Judaica, 1971, Haavara. Vol. 7. p. 1012-1013; Hilberg, R., 1985, The Destruction Of The European Jews. NY: Holmes & Meier, p. 140-141; Levy, RS, 1984, Commentary, Sept. 68-71.32).


    The document most eloquently testifying to the desire of the main Zionist groups to conspire with Hitler is the proposal put forward in 1941 by the Israeli freedom fighters, also called “Lehi” or Stern Gang, one of the leaders of which was Yitzhak Shamir, who became her after Stern’s death leader, and in the 1980s, the Prime Minister of Israel. Stern's militants considered Great Britain the main enemy of the Zionists, as she tried to protect the civil rights of the Palestinians and made attempts to limit the immigration of Jews to Palestine. Lehi made an official proposal for a military alliance between the Jewish revolutionary organization and the Nazis - this was one of the most unprecedented facts in recent history. In essence, they proposed to enter the war on the side of Germany. Here are excerpts from their communique with the Nazis.
    1. Beck
      Beck 20 March 2013 15: 42 New
      -7
      Quote: TUMAN
      The SS collaborated with a Zionist underground paramilitary organization in Palestine Hagan,


      Well, and why? The Nazis wanted to clear Germany of the Hebrews. The first step was relocation. When it failed they began to kill.

      SS.

      The CIA, Stasi, the KGB, Mi-6 didn’t contact anyone. And what? We will draw deep conclusions.
      1. TUMAN
        TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: Beck
        Well, and why? The Nazis wanted to clear Germany of the Hebrews. The first step was relocation. When it failed they began to kill.

        So they collaborated! And what in 1942 there were still no Jewish prisoners in concentration camps ?!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 20 March 2013 15: 08 New
    -5
    Quote: Allex28
    I just look at it with the proper share of irinia, and the Jews immediately start yelling about the Holocaust. If you know from history, Hitler called for the destruction of not only Jews, but also Russians

    But alas, unlike the Jews, they began to forget a lot !!
    I didn’t see the Jews throwing up their hands in Nazi salutes and I’m sure that in their country ordinary people would tear their fellow tribesmen for this !!
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 16: 02 New
      +5
      Quote: Yarbay
      But alas, unlike the Jews, they began to forget a lot !!
      I didn’t see the Jews throwing up their hands in Nazi salutes and I’m sure that in their country ordinary people would tear their fellow tribesmen for this !!

      Where did you read my Nazi statements, and more specifically, I began to forget.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 20 March 2013 18: 44 New
        -5
        Quote: Allex28
        Where did you read my Nazi statements, and more specifically, I began to forget.

        I’m not about you personally, but about Russians in general !!
        I am wrong?
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 19: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: Yarbay
          I’m not about you personally, but about Russians in general !!

          Do not generalize all Russians, as in any nation there are different ones, so you don’t need to generalize. As for the Natsiks, where is this scum there? I have, in any case, seen different nationalities. Yes, in almost any country where I have been.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 March 2013 19: 36 New
          -1
          Quote: Allex28
          Do not generalize all Russians, as in any nation there are different ones, so that it is not necessary to generalize

          So look how our conversation began !!!
          You wrote that the Russians suffered from the Nazis !!
          I agree with this, but unlike the Jews, some of your people have already begun to forget it !!
          Among the Jews, have you seen people throwing up their hands in Nazi salutes ?? and if this happens because of the fact that they remember the Holocaust, what's wrong with that?
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 March 2013 19: 40 New
          +2
          Dear Alexander Romanov!
          Happy birthday to you !!
          With all my heart I wish HAPPINESS, HEALTH AND GOOD LUCK !!!
        4. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 20: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Among the Jews, have you seen people throwing up their hands in Nazi salutes ?? and if this happens because of the fact that they remember the Holocaust, what's wrong with that?

          Thanks to the fact that the Jews remember the Holocaust, they still pump loot from Germany. And the case from Israel: one of my acquaintances, a German, went there on an excursion when they found out that their group was from Germany, then a couple of guys with paises spat in next. And this is not a manifestation of Nazism in your opinion?
        5. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 March 2013 23: 42 New
          0
          Quote: Allex28
          Thanks to the fact that the Jews remember the Holocaust, they still pump loot from Germany.

          Is loot will bring back to life their loved ones and relatives ???
          the loot is the least that descendants of those Germans who destroyed them can do !!
          Quote: Allex28
          And the case is from Israel: one of my acquaintances, a German, went there on an excursion when they found out that their group was from Germany, then a couple of guys with paissey spat on them. And this is not a manifestation of Nazism in your opinion?
          This is just a conversation and the words of your friend !!
          Maybe that's why they got drunk! ??
          Or maybe they didn’t spit !! But they threw up a hand in a Nazi salute ??
          We are talking about different things !!
          You are more Nazi in your comments today than those Jews you may have invented in the passe !!
        6. Aleks28
          Aleks28 20 March 2013 23: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Is loot will bring back to life their loved ones and relatives ???

          Here I am about the same thing.
          Quote: Yarbay
          You are more Nazi in your comments today than those Jews you may have invented in the passe !!

          Well, firstly, I didn’t come up with anything, and secondly, give an example of my Nazi statements.
        7. Yarbay
          Yarbay 21 March 2013 00: 54 New
          -1
          Quote: Allex28
          Well, firstly, I didn’t come up with anything, and secondly, give an example of my Nazi statements.

          What difference did your friend come up with, but it was nice for you to hear, and so you repeat !! You yourself have not seen !?
          Quote: Allex28

          Well, firstly, I didn’t come up with anything, and secondly, give an example of my Nazi statements.

          You no longer even feel in the heat of discussion how to cross this line!
          Look at the first line of your comment written at 20:25 !!
          This is ugly!
        8. Yarbay
          Yarbay 21 March 2013 00: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Here I am about the same thing.

          No, you're talking about something else!
          We are clearly about different things!
        9. Aleks28
          Aleks28 21 March 2013 01: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Yarbay
          Quote: Yarbay
          Here I am about the same thing.

          No, you're talking about something else!
          We are clearly about different things!

          So you think it is normal to evaluate a person’s death at a tariff in rubles, euros, shekels or dollars. So, as a believer, I don’t accept this. The only rule is that the killer must be punished, and not in rubles, but must pay with his life. PS : my quote: Thanks to the fact that the Jews remember the Holocaust, they still pump loot from Germany.-Where Nazism is here, there is no respect for hypocrisy.
        10. Yarbay
          Yarbay 21 March 2013 01: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: Allex28
          So you think it is normal to evaluate a person’s death at a tariff in rubles, euros, shekels or dollars

          You see, we are talking about different things or you are inattentively reading me !!
          I repeat money is the least that can be done by the descendants of those Germans who killed people to the families and friends of their victims !!!
          Quote: Allex28
          PS: my quote: Due to the fact that the Jews remember the Holocaust, they still pump loot from Germany. -Where is Nazism here, there is no respect for hypocrisy.

          If you do not see this, then I am sorry for you sincerely !!
          I did not see here no respect for licorice !!
          You brought the concept of the Holocaust to money, that the Jews remember the Holocaust to strip money from Germany, it’s low and it smells bad !!
        11. Aleks28
          Aleks28 21 March 2013 02: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          I’m not about you personally, but about Russians in general !!
          I am wrong?

          Here, it smacks of Nazism.
          Quote: Yarbay
          You brought the concept of the Holocaust to money, that the Jews remember the Holocaust to strip money from Germany, it’s low and it smells bad !!

          It was not I who equated, I only summarized, but equated before my birth.
          Quote: Pimply
          Or brush it off? Germany still pays reparations to different countries - the USSR, by the way, also received them. And rightly so. By the way, reparations concern not only the Second World War - only reparations for the First World have just ended.

          Here is a quote and note not mine, pride is right in every word.
        12. Yarbay
          Yarbay 21 March 2013 12: 41 New
          -1
          [quote = Allex28] Here, it smacks of Nazism.
          [/ Quote]
          Well now it’s clear)))
          You talked all day, but did not know what (((
          Are you smoking?))))))))) [Quote = Allex28]
          [quote = Yarbay] You brought the concept of the Holocaust to money, that the Jews remember the Holocaust to strip money from Germany is low and smells bad !! [/ quote]
          I didn’t equate it, I just summarized it, but equated it even before my birth. [Quote = Pupyrchaty]
          That you do not otmazyvatsya !!!
          [quote = Allex28] Here is a quote and note not mine, pride is right in every word.
          [/ Quote]Here pride does not show, but explanations like you !!
  • Pimply
    Pimply 21 March 2013 00: 09 New
    0
    Do you think you need to forget?
    Or brush it off? Germany still pays reparations to different countries - the USSR, by the way, also received them. And rightly so. By the way, reparations concern not only the Second World War - only reparations for the First World have just ended.
  • Aleks28
    Aleks28 21 March 2013 00: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Pimply
    Do you think you need to forget?

    No, it’s not necessary to forget. For this purpose, a person has been given memory to repeat, as far as possible, mistakes already made, but to translate all this into the rank of endless payments, I consider it hypocritical.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 March 2013 00: 51 New
    +2
    It turns out that German Chancellor Konrad Adenaur was guided by the signing of the Agreement on reparations between the Federal Republic of Germany and Israel of September 10, 1952 (according to which Germany undertook to compensate the Jewish state for 3 billion German marks) with completely different motives than is commonly believed, reports Der Spiegel.
    In fact, Adenauer agreed to sign a contradictory agreement in Germany due to pressure from the United States and for fears that “an unsuccessful termination of negotiations with Israel could bring Germany many political and economic problems,” and not because of “moral obligations” ", about which the politician wrote later in his memoirs. The author of the article, Felix Bohr, draws on the recently published minutes of the meetings of the Adenauer cabinet by the German Foreign Ministry.
    As the journalist notes, the publication of these documents - due to the expiration of the statute of limitations - was planned by the German Foreign Ministry back in 1982, under Chancellor Helmut Kohl. However, due to "certain contradictions" identified by one senior official of the department, it was postponed for another time. According to the article, diplomats were afraid that the publication of these protocols "could complicate relations between Germany and Israel, which the German Foreign Ministry is trying to normalize."
    As you know, German-Israeli relations under the predecessor of Kohl Helmut Schmidt were not in the best condition - they began to improve slowly only after the new Chancellor of Germany took office, Bohr writes.
    Source: Der Spiegel
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 21 March 2013 00: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Allex28
    But to transfer all this to the rank of endless payments, I consider it hypocritical.

    You think so in vain !!
  • Pimply
    Pimply 21 March 2013 01: 30 New
    0
    Are you sure? Germany has just paid for the First World War. This is a common practice. The people who suffered in that war are still alive. Many of them have lost everything. That is absolutely. Their life was completely destroyed - families, property, health, they received tremendous mental trauma. Some real payments began to be paid to them relatively recently.

    I was familiar with the man who was shot when he was 13. He was lucky - the bullet went along the tangent, and then he got out of the ditch with the corpses.
    My grandfather from my relatives lost both grandfathers and both grandmothers - they shot the elderly, and they were under 90.

    Here's how you think - if no reparations are needed, maybe Kaliningrad can be returned to the Germans?
    See, and you say.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 20 March 2013 20: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: Yarbay
    I’m not about you personally, but about Russians in general !!

    But how he spoke ... Well, well, when the train had to fit in for two azeri who had six Uzbeks blizzard, they probably thought differently,
    So let's goodbye lover of cut off heads!
  • Arkan
    Arkan 20 March 2013 13: 30 New
    +5
    Quote: Beck
    Well, this is the second task. A concern for the new Holocaust will be because there are such statements.

    Arkan (1) Today, 09:48 a new
    4 Jews are ravenous, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the World.

    I call a spade a spade (dad and mom taught me so laughing ) and if the Jews don’t like it - maybe they should try to lie less and poke their nose into the affairs of other nations? Maybe then there will be less anti-Semitism in the world. However, what am I talking about? Jews will never stop lying. laughing
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 20 March 2013 15: 40 New
      -3
      No, not mine. You name things to please your beliefs and ignorance.
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 20 March 2013 16: 02 New
        +6
        Quote: Pimply
        No, not mine. You name things to please your beliefs and ignorance.

        Would you like me to speak for your convictions? laughing ? You are a clinical optimist. laughing
  • TUMAN
    TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 18 New
    +4
    Quote: Beck
    You, personally, do not care about such an expression if instead of the word Jew you put the word Russian.

    Better to put a Zionist fascist! Then the true truth will be!
  • TUMAN
    TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: Beck
    Zionism, in fact, existed only until 1948. After the formation of the state of Israel, by decision of the United Nations, the task of Zionism was accomplished. There is a state of Israel and Zionism has lost its meaning.

    You are repeating yourself, while being cunning!
    1. Beck
      Beck 20 March 2013 15: 22 New
      -4
      Quote: TUMAN
      You are repeating yourself, while being cunning!


      And how not to repeat it in answers to the mantras of the cheers-patriots. And what am I cunning? It is the patriots who are hiding behind Zionism for the sake of their nationalist ideas.
      1. TUMAN
        TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 41 New
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        Quote: Beck
        And what am I cunning?

        You have misrepresented the concept of Zionism!
        Zionism (from the name of the hill Zion in Jerusalem), the most reactionary variety of Jewish bourgeois nationalism, which became widespread in the 20th century. among the Jewish population of the capitalist countries. Modern S. is a nationalist ideology, an extensive system of organizations and politics, expressing the interests of the big Jewish bourgeoisie, which is closely connected with the monopolistic bourgeoisie of the imperialist states. The main content of modern S. is militant chauvinism, racism, anti-communism and anti-Sovietism.

        As a political current, S. emerged in the late 19th century. It was intended to distract the Jewish working masses from the revolutionary struggle, to preserve the rule of the bourgeoisie over the working people. In pursuit of these goals, S.'s ideologists put forward plans for resolving the "Jewish question" by creating, with the help of the great powers, a "Jewish state." This idea was set forth, in particular, in the book of one of the ideologists of S. Austrian journalist Theodor Herzl "The Jewish State" (1896). In 1897, the First Zionist Congress was held in Basel, on which the World Zionist Organization (WZO) was founded, proclaiming S.'s official goal "to create a Jewish refuge in Palestine for the Jewish people."

        S.'s ideological doctrine is very eclectic. It makes the most active use of many dogmas of Judaism, and also includes theories of bourgeois nationalism, social-chauvinism, and others transformed by S. ideologists. Its main points are as follows: Jews from different countries of the world represent the extraterritorial "united world Jewish nation"; Jews - “special”, “exclusive”, “chosen by God” people; all the peoples among whom the Jews live are, in one way or another, anti-Semites; anti-Semitism - the phenomenon of "eternal"; assimilation, that is, the merging of the Jews with the people around them, is “unnatural and sinful,” Jews have “historical rights” to “the lands of the biblical ancestors” (Palestine and the surrounding areas), on which they should concentrate and build "purely Jewish" "egalitarian state." S. ideologists are trying to prove the "inextricable connection of Jews throughout the world" with S., to whom, wherever they are, they must subordinate their interests. The politicized tenets of Judaism about the "God's chosen people" and the Messianism of the Jews, as well as the mythical thesis of their "exclusivity," are one of the foundations of the inherent ideology and practice of S. extreme nationalism, chauvinism and racism. S. ideologists argue that the "Jewish question" is an "eternal", "special" and superclass issue. The Zionists in every possible way propagandize the lying idea of ​​the class world between the working Jews and the Jewish bourgeoisie ("all Jews are brothers"). All forms of class struggle among the Jews are declared ideologists S. national betrayal. With the help of demagoguery and tactical maneuvers, the Zionists have always sought and are now trying to hide S.’s anti-people reactionary essence, passing him off as the “national liberation movement of the world Jewish people."
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 15: 47 New
          -7
          Quote: TUMAN
          Zionism (from the name Zion Hill in Jerusalem), the most reactionary variety of Jewish bourgeois nationalism,


          Do not pop me Soviet propaganda of the times of the USSR. When Russia was fragmented and conquered by the Golden Horde, many Rusmchi also dreamed of re-creating a strong Russian state and created it.
          1. TUMAN
            TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 55 New
            +6
            Quote: Beck
            Do not pop me Soviet propaganda of the times of the USSR

            Why? You are here popping Zionist propaganda!
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 17: 11 New
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              Quote: TUMAN
              Why? You are here popping Zionist propaganda


              Yes, I am not a Jew. And in Soviet times, Israel was not an ally of the USSR, and Soviet propaganda was hung on it. As exalted Gess Hall - Secretary of the Communist Party of the United States. And where is he now? How blasphemed Soviet propaganda is not a socialist economy. And now all socialism has been thrown into the trash of history.
              1. TUMAN
                TUMAN 20 March 2013 17: 25 New
                +2
                Quote: Beck
                Yes, I am not a Jew.

                Who? Egyptian God ?!
              2. Beck
                Beck 20 March 2013 17: 35 New
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                Quote: TUMAN
                Who? Egyptian God ?!


                Kazakh. I am a medical doctor by profession. Court medical expert.

                On the avatar is the Egyptian god Anubis. God of death, the underworld of the dead, necropolises, embalming. In his hands is Ankh - a symbol of eternal life, where Anubis was accompanied by the dead pharaohs.
              3. TUMAN
                TUMAN 20 March 2013 17: 41 New
                +5
                Quote: Beck
                Kazakh. I am a medical doctor by profession. Court medical expert.

                Very nice! And the propaganda of Zionism is a spiritual impulse ?!
              4. Beck
                Beck 20 March 2013 17: 56 New
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                Quote: TUMAN
                Very nice! And the propaganda of Zionism is a spiritual impulse ?!


                Pompously somehow it will turn out, but I'm for justice.

                Hitler called the Slavs subhuman this is unfair.
                Due to fictitious religious postulates, for 2000 years the Jewish people were persecuted, this is unfair.
                Because of his communist beliefs, Pol-Pot ruined 1/3 of his people, this is unfair.
                Napolen wanted to enslave Russia is unfair.
                The Arabs wanted to seize all the land and drown the Hebrew in the sea, this is unfair.
                The slave system is unfair.
                Imperial ambitions in the modern world are unfair.
                Whoever attacked first is unjust.
                Georgia was pushing out principles when it left the USSR, and now it does not recognize the same principles for Abkhazia and Ossetia.

                And so much more.
              5. TUMAN
                TUMAN 20 March 2013 18: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: Beck
                Hitler called the Slavs subhumans this is not fair. Due to fictitious religious postulates, they persecuted the Jewish people for 2000 years is not fair. Pol-Pot ruined 1/3 of his people because of his communist beliefs. Napolen wanted to enslave Russia is unfair. Arabs wanted to capture all lands and drowning a Jew in the sea is unfair. Slavery is unfair. Imperial ambitions in the modern world are unfair. Who was the first to attack is unfair. Georgia put forward the principles when it left the USSR, and now does not recognize the same principles for Abkhazia and Ossetia this is unfair. And so much more.

                And the bombardment of Gaza’s quarters with white phosphorus is like that ?!
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 21 New
              -4
              Well, you carry Nazism to the masses
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2013 19: 02 New
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            Quote: Beck
            I am a medical doctor by profession. Court medical expert.


            To phone calls asking to call one of the parents in their absence, the boy, the son of a father-lawyer and mother-a medical examiner, answered:
            - They're not home.
            - Where are they?
            “Dad is in jail, and mom is in the morgue.”
          3. Beck
            Beck 20 March 2013 19: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Ascetic
            To phone calls from


            From the conclusion of the court. an expert.

            - The blow was struck by a blunt, hard object, possibly with a head ..

            Conclusion on the examination of the medical history.

            “He will live if he does not die.”

            From a survey of a raped woman.

            Expert.
            “About how long did the rapist have sexual intercourse?”
            Female.
            - Three minutes
            - Well. it is approximately.
            - Not approximately, but for sure.
            - You, that the time of violence has timed the clock?
            - No. But this bastard did 105 strokes. And this is exactly three minutes. One minute 35
            pitching.
            Expert.
            - Yeah. I see plenty of experience with you, and even with a research vein. Now I will know the new standard of time.


            Okay, bye for now. I'm going to drink tea. Otminusali here on me in full. I didn’t set one. Well, this is a voluntary matter and everyone’s personal ..
          4. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2013 20: 24 New
            +8
            My advice to you is to read the Jewish Encyclopedia in six volumes of the 1913 edition. There and about the history of pogroms and resettlement and about Poland with Russia, No ideology, only figures and facts. And then you will come to the conclusion that the widely circulated troubles of the God-written people lie exclusively in the plane economic and economic activity and socio-economic relations and not mythical anti-Semitism and "special" dislike for the above-mentioned people.
            And also the work of the English historian S. Heilizer entitled "The First Holocaust: The Inquisition and the New Jews of Spain and Portugal"in which it thoroughly claims that the events of the ХУ-ХУI centuries are completely comparable with the total extermination of Jews by German Nazism (the word "Holocaust" - literally "burnt offering") just after working days in the morgue
          5. Beck
            Beck 20 March 2013 21: 08 New
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            Quote: Ascetic
            As well as the work of the English historian


            And who justifies the whole history of the Jews? And there were some reasons to leave Egypt. Most likely due to prosperity. And in Spain, it seems through Prince Juan, they were selected to the throne or to the body of the monarch. I do not know for sure. And the Khazar Kagant led the Jews to fall.

            But. Today's dislike of Jews is primarily determined by a religious motive - Christ was crucified. And revolutionary - Jews made a revolution. So what was to follow the revolutionaries. For them to die from the wars of the white movement. Basically, they themselves goofed that they did not obey. And we were safe for those of you, crazy in the head. We are not to blame. The adversaries seduced. It was not the Jewish cavalry armies who shed human blood, but the Budyonny armies and the Tukhachsky divisions in the Tambov region. It's like blaming the defeat on Kalka tokmo and the only Polovtsians. But the Russian princely rati, and nothing to do with all this. Only innocently hurt.
          6. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2013 23: 02 New
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            Quote: Beck
            Today's dislike of Jews is primarily determined by a religious motive - Christ was crucified. And revolutionary - Jews made a revolution

            Even at the end of the 19th century. in Orthodox Russia and pre-revolutionary, too, this was not the main reason. This is what Brockhaus and Efron EE (1913) write about this. Specially read

            The reasons for the movement were expressed by various considerations. Of the time-based publications, only a few spoke at that time of tribal and religious hatred; the rest believed that pogrom movement arose on economic grounds; at the same time, some saw in the riots a protest directed specifically against the Jews in view of their economic dominance over the Russian population; others explained that the masses, feeling generally economically constrained, were looking for someone to vent their anger on, and the Jews, due to their lack of rights and unfavorable social situation, were the most suitable target for reprisal (see Anti-Semitism in Russia). As for officials, the Odessa Governor General, Prince. Dondukov-Korsakov, presented to the Minister of Internal Affairs that the movement was facilitated by a general brainwave caused by the martyrdom of Emperor Alexander II, a lack of disposition towards the Jews because of their economic activity, and along with this an economic disorder and the need of the Christian masses caused by adverse conditions of agriculture and trade in recent years, finally, even revolutionary agitation in subsequent phases of unrest; Dondukov-Korsakov did not consider it possible to attribute the movement of religious intolerance or self-interest - it was not thugs who engaged in the theft, but spectators and the surrounding peasants. The Kiev, Podolsky and Volyn governor-general denied the direct participation of propagandists in the preparation and movement of the riots, however, recognizing that the general excited state of the population owed to the propagandists; The movement, according to the Governor General, was based on hatred of the economic activity of the Jews, and then, perhaps, in part, religious hatred. Count Kutaisov, who was sent to investigate the pogrom movement, saw the main reason for the economic activity of the Jews, and at the same time noted the weaknesses of the actions of the police and the troops, due to which the masses had the idea that if the authorities themselves did not stop the attacks on the Jews, this was allowed, allowed by himself king, which was put in connection with the event on March 1.
          7. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2013 23: 05 New
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            The Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich announced on May 4 to Baron G. O. Gunzburg that “the unrest, as the government now found, does not have its source solely against the Jews, but the desire for a work of unrest” (Dawn, No. 19). Two days later, a circular was circulated by the new Minister of the Interior, Count Ignatiev, who explained to the chiefs the provincial view of the government on the internal situation; urging not only the authorities, but also society to eradicate sedition, the circular read, among other things: “The movement against the Jews, which has manifested itself in recent days in the south, presented a sad example of how people devoted to the Throne and the Fatherland, succumbing to the suggestions of malicious, inciting evil passions among the people, they fall into self-will and arbitrariness and act without understanding it, according to the plans of seditioners. Such violations of order should not only be strictly prosecuted, but also carefully warned: for the first duty of the government is to protect the safety of the population from all violence and wild arbitrariness " . After that, on May 11, Emperor Alexander III declared to the Jewish deputation that P. was the work of the anarchists (see). But soon Count Ignatyev transferred the center of gravity to the economic activity of the Jews and in the most comprehensive report presented them as the perpetrators of the mob law. After that, through a government report - November 2, 1881 - the society was notified of the formation of provincial commissions (see), which were to find out "which aspects of the Jewish economic activity in general have a harmful effect on the life of the indigenous population and which legislative measures should be taken and administrative regarding the kind of economic activity of the Jews that will be indicated in this regard by commissions. "
            At the same time, the highest local authorities were informed that, “having vigorously suppressed the unrest and arbitrariness in order to protect Jews from violence, the government considers it fair and urgent to take no less vigorous measures to eliminate the current abnormal conditions existing between indigenous people and Jews to protect the population from the harmful activities of the Jews, which, according to local sources, caused excitement. " In this regard, the Ignatiev-formed Committee on Jews (see) developed a draft of extensive legislation aimed at restricting Jews in their rights. However, the repressive policy did not find sympathy in government circles (see), and only the “Provisional Rules” were implemented from the project on May 3, 1882 (see), which were supposed to block further Jewish access to villages and villages, which meant weakening Jewish economic influence on peasant life.
          8. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2013 23: 12 New
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            In recent years, private messages have appeared in the press that give a new explanation for the events of 1881–82. The knowledgeable author of a note submitted to the government by Baron Gunzburg (official materials published by the Office of the Council of the United Noble Societies, part II; printed also in Jewish Antiquities, 1909), claims that P. was the result of an artificially induced anti-Jewish movement, before the smallest details organized and furnished with all the necessary means to achieve the intended goal. "A kind of anti-Jewish consent has formed, the followers of which have become people of different classes, including even many representatives of the authorities, both provincial and central. This secret but tolerant alliance undoubtedly has money, without which nothing could be done."
            Further on, we are talking about involvement in the pogroms and their unspoken provocation of terrorists-Narodovoltsy
            As for the attitude of the People’s Will party towards P., judging by the party body, party members considered P. the corresponding types of revolutionary movement; it was supposed that P. accustom the people to revolutionary actions; some members of the Executive Committee issued a proclamation on August 30, 1881, calling for the defeat of the Jews, but it was not widespread.
            link
          9. Beck
            Beck 21 March 2013 10: 58 New
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            Quote: Ascetic
            pogrom movement arose on economic grounds; while some saw a riot of protest, directed specifically against the Jews in view of their economic domination of the Russian population


            You wrote a lot with excerpts here. So much and on the shelves to break a lot of time will be required. I'll try as I can.

            What kind of domination? The fact that a dozen other Jewish bankers were scattered throughout Europe, so how would anyone know them, ordinary people, about them in the Zhytomyr region. But small-town Jews plowed the land, sowed bread, mowed hay. Here is an elementary envy of a Jewish shopkeeper, a Jew, a milkman, a Jewish pawnshop. And this envy just for success has been sitting in people for many millennia. Now in Kazakhstan, I’ll go out to the landing of my house, look back who lives better, again a Jew. Well, they know how to live, the life of persecution made them. Now, if it had been in the less enlightened 19th and early 20th centuries, it is quite possible that the neighbors, the Jews, would have started the pogrom, together with me, explaining their envy that the Jews of Christ crucified, kneading matzah on children's blood and all other rubbish. Well, the behavior of the crowd is not for me and not for you to explain. that’s all right up to the kill.

            And somehow the Jews know how to live, maintaining their community, even if 100 people live in their city. That somehow they were not assimilated over 2000 years scattered all over the world and living in thousands of kilometers from their homeland. But this is not a reason for pogroms. I am sure that take a thousand Kazakhs and a thousand Russians and settled them in Argentina, after a hundred years there will be no trace of us, we will all be Argentines. And the Jews are preserved as a nation and are multiplying. But this is not a reason for murder. Of course, they went crazy with blood, but self-identity remained Jewish.

            And the echoes of that former lack of illumination remained in our time. Here we are talking, arguing, listening. And look at the comments on this page. I initially only said that in 1948 the Arabs did not have to attack Israel. but it was necessary to build his state on the allotted land. Everything went from there. So I was attributed to the Jews, called, insulted. I am sure that if such a dispute took place on the street, then they would have beaten me. And I’m sure that there will be those on the page who will say the right thing, and not only beat, but also need to be beaten.

            The Jews have traits that look negative, so what kind of people do not have such traits. That Kazakhs are superior to Jews or Russians in this indicator.

            And further. At the beginning of 90, the conditions were equal. But somehow I didn’t have enough intelligence to adapt to the new situation. Jew Mashkov turned out to be a billionaire now. Of course there are Kazakhs billionaires. But if anything, then the first will smash the Jew Mashkov with old slogans - They crucified Christ. Matsu is made on blood. They got all the money. And only envy will be hidden here.
          10. Beck
            Beck 21 March 2013 11: 40 New
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            ALL.

            And atheists, and Orthodox, and Muslims, and Buddhists.

            Congratulations to all on a holiday OUTSIDE. This is not a religious holiday for today's existing denominations. If anyone is interested, read on where he came from.

            From the 3rd millennium BC, from the steppes of the Black Sea region, to the steppes of Kazakhstan, Southern Siberia, Central Asia, the Iranian Highlands, and the North of India, Indo-Europeans - Arians began to populate. On the territory of Kazakhstan, Central Asia, they created a community that is now called the Andronovo culture. Andronovites belonged to the Iranian and Indo-speaking groups. Their supreme deity was a cow.

            In the first millennium BC in the country, Arianam Vaija - Prostor Ariev (from the Volga to the Yenisei and to Afghanistan), the priest of Zarathushtra (the One who drives camels), the arias from the Spitama clan, the son of Pouroroshaspa (Serol horse) proclaimed a new Faith, unlike the previous veneration by the arias of the Cow. Faith in the only, inalienable, eternal god of the creator AHUR MAZDU - LORD OF WISDOM. Creator of all other gods (ahur) and all good. The Purpose of Faith - Good Thought, Good Word, Good Work. This triad at the end of time should overwhelm Anhra Manyu - the Evil Spirit, ignorant of the truth and the evil leader of the demons - devas. At the end of time, Good and Evil will be finally separated from each other. In the new Faith, each individual can participate in the destruction of Evil and the establishment of the kingdom of Good, before which all devotees of shepherd's life are equally equal. Thus, paradise with milk rivers will be restored on earth.

            This is the first monoreligion of Monotheism in the history of mankind. Zarathustra calculated the spring vernal equinox, in March. And this day became New Year - OUTSIDE. In Iran, the priests turned the teachings of Zarathushtra into Zoroastrianism.

            In the first centuries of our era, the territory of Kazakhstan and Central Asia was inhabited by Turks who came from their ancestral home - the steppes of Mongolia. And the Türks assimilated Andron-Aryans. This cross preserved the Turkic language, but the Turkic language also absorbed many of the words of Iranian-speaking Andronovites. Some of the customs and traditions of the Andronovites were taken by this cross of blood. The faith of the cross became Tengrianism, but the Andronovo Navruz firmly entered the tradition. Even later, Islam could not abolish it.

            And until now, NAVRUZ is celebrated in all Turkic-speaking countries, in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the north of India. That is, where the Andron-Indo-Europeans were previously settled.
  • FATEMOGAN
    FATEMOGAN 21 March 2013 02: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Beck
    But. Today's dislike of Jews is primarily determined by a religious motive - Christ was crucified. And revolutionary - Jews made a revolution. So what was to follow the revolutionaries. For them to die from the wars of the white movement. Basically, they themselves goofed that they did not obey. And we were safe for those of you, crazy in the head. We are not to blame. The adversaries seduced. It was not the Jewish cavalry armies who shed human blood, but the Budyonny armies and the Tukhachsky divisions in the Tambov region. It's like blaming the defeat on Kalka tokmo and the only Polovtsians. But the Russian princely rati, and nothing to do with all this. Only innocently hurt.


    With such thinking, we are now figs knows what to agree. For example, the citizens of America are to blame for the destruction of Serbia and Iraq, because they also elected presidents who made criminal decisions to attack these strange countries. In this case, of course, you can modestly keep silent about the huge PR campaign before these wars on the active brainwashing of the average man. About the lies from the UN rostrum about the massacre in Srebrynitsa and loud statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. so who is to blame for these wars, whose ordinary people are also brazenly deceived by the presidents? or the presidents themselves, who deceived the support of citizens and issued criminal orders for bloodshed? !!!! think before you blame the common people again !!!!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 21 March 2013 01: 51 New
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    Quote: Beck
    Kazakh. I am a medical doctor by profession. Court medical expert.


    Quote: Beck
    On the avatar is the Egyptian god Anubis.

    and I thought on the profile picture that you have a different profession!
    Did not guess!
  • Beck
    Beck 21 March 2013 12: 28 New
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    Quote: Yarbay
    and I thought on the profile picture that you have a different profession! I did not guess!


    Greetings dear!

    Interesting. So what profession were you thinking about. Tell me. Interesting after all.
  • ultra
    ultra 20 March 2013 22: 20 New
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    Quote: Beck
    And now all socialism has been thrown into the trash of history

    Are you sure about that? hi
  • DeerIvanovich
    DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 26 New
    +9
    After the discovery of the New World, two events miraculously coincided: the mass expulsion of Jews from almost all European countries, as well as their mass resettlement in America, that’s where the legs grow from Jews to horseradish.
    And the Jews were expelled because they had been tempted by their own fellow tribesman, but only richer and more influential, so that they did not take the promised land they occupied (the Indians, as inhabitants of the Jews, didn’t count, that’s why they almost destroyed them at the time by creating real genocide ...
    1. Beck
      Beck 20 March 2013 11: 57 New
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      Quote: DeerIvanovich
      After the discovery of the New World, two events miraculously coincided: the mass expulsion of Jews from almost all European countries, as well as their mass resettlement to America, from where their legs grow, from Jews to horseradish there. And they expelled the Jews at the instigation of their own fellow tribesman, but only richer and more influential, so that no-occupied lands promised to be received (the Indians, as inhabitants of the Jews, didn’t count, that’s why they were almost destroyed at the time by creating real genocide) ...


      A hash of words and invented provisions. This can be heard in the ward of the appropriate hospital.
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 12: 45 New
        +4
        a very interesting counterargument, but nevertheless I will refrain from taking it into service, let it remain only your prerogative, you great our trolo-lo!

    2. Pimply
      Pimply 20 March 2013 15: 43 New
      -6
      Tell me, can you cite references to the sources of this nonsense?
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 19: 00 New
        +3
        I am afraid for your health about pimply from pimply! no matter how tearfully they asked ... it wasn’t enough yet, so that my conscience would torture me later, if you were from such nonsense ... that ... will stumble.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 20 March 2013 20: 22 New
          -3
          And yet, it is usually customary to operate on a fact. Simpler
          1. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 21 March 2013 09: 47 New
            +2
            what is the question, is the answer: get used to asymmetric answers smile
            By the way, your error is visible, but it is not clear what you meant when: to operate on a fact
  • Beck
    Beck 20 March 2013 11: 15 New
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    Quote: Arkan
    Jews are vile, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the world.


    Yeah. Black-Hundred dialect of the Archangel Michael Society. This is all the search for the guilty. And here, nationality does not even matter. If there were no Jews, such as Arkan, they would find others whom to point a finger at. The Chinese, Poles, Papuans - there was only someone to blame for their troubles. It’s not his own fault that nothing works, and he finds the guilty. The computer fluttered. Who's guilty? Clear stump - Papuan. How to fix a computer? It’s simpler than that - to put a Papuan on a stake and the computer itself will work, then it’s business.

    And this is in the 21st century.
    1. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 11: 20 New
      -4
      Those nations that did not have Jews were appointed someone else as Jews. The Finns had Jews before the Swedes, but now they brought Jews, and they still do not like Swedes - inertia. it’s good that we have Jews. It wouldn’t be, Mordovians would have to be appointed Jews. But they wouldn’t do that.
    2. Arkan
      Arkan 20 March 2013 11: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: Beck
      It’s not his own fault that nothing works, and he finds the guilty.

      laughing I always succeed good, don’t even hesitate. And they didn’t amuse me with their characteristics of my personality - this is really funny.
      1. Beck
        Beck 20 March 2013 11: 46 New
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        Quote: Arkan
        And they didn’t amuse me with their characteristics of my personality - this is really funny.


        Laugh.
    3. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 30 New
      +4
      a typical Jew excuse. throughout history she is heard. if you read even the statements on this subject by Dahl and other researchers explaining by Jews the reasons for the Jewish pogroms in Maloros, then Dahl and others strangely come to the same assessment as me.
      1. SSR
        SSR 20 March 2013 15: 36 New
        +4
        Excuse me, please, I’m just looking here, so to speak, the question of Zionism has been raised ..
        I wanted to find the words of a rabbi from the time of World War II .. who, let's say, was very intolerant about the common Jews and said what “we” need .. but so far I came across a video with statements by American presidents, too .. long ago) )
        [media = http: //youtu.be/3DQhw3FeqVA]
        http://youtu.be/3DQhw3FeqVA

        In general, anyone interested can search the Internet
        the words of the rabbi of the Sanhedrin
        and now I found if anyone enlighten I will be grateful.
        http://holocaustrevisionism.blogspot.nl/search/label/%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0
        %B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 15: 54 New
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          Quote: SSR
          I wanted to find the words of a rabbi from the 2nd World War .. who, let’s say, was very intolerant about simple Jews and said which “we” need


          But do not want to read a bunch of statements by the Jesuits about ordinary Christians. Inquisitors in relation to their Christians and Orthodox Christians. And the statements of the priests about the Old Believers. And the statements of the Mullah Shiites in relation to Sunnis Muslims and vice versa. And statements about each other by Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants.

          Read you this bunch not to re-read. And then a zealous rabbi, in a religious veil, blurted out something, so this is the whole Jewish people said this. In Israel, as a civilized country, probably half the people are unbelievers.
          1. SSR
            SSR 20 March 2013 16: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: Beck
            And do not want to read a bunch of statements by the Jesuits about ordinary Christians

            Honestly, if I read, I read sometimes. In general, when the shameful, black, dirty facts of the historical or other past and present “pop up”, I try to understand it .. digest it and, in general, “merge” and cleanse myself from filth))) But this is only one religion that worries me, and for example one rabbi (in America) openly advocated that removing the organ of a common man and “giving” it to a Jew is (to put it mildly) the norm and that even more “annoying” people disappear in many recent conflicts and when he spoke with local people in one of the countries of northern Africa. very many complained .. they said that after the collapse of the USSR they are afraid for the children, they say they steal to the authorities ....
            I don’t blame anyone .. because I don’t know who is behind all this .. but not every surgeon will transplant ... and I will repeat from all religions so far only one rabbi know who spoke openly about this.
            Confused .. but I'm not strong rhetoric))
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 17: 27 New
              -1
              Quote: SSR
              Honestly, if I read, I read sometimes


              Actually, I agree with only one communist slogan - Religion, opium for the people.

              I have all these religions to a light bulb. They only divide the world into Christians, Muslims, Catholics, Protestants, Sunites, Shiites. And each appropriate clergyman praises only his own and anathematizes everything else. And according to the statement of one, two crazy clerics, I do not intend to blame the whole people for something. In addition, in the civilized world, now, half of the unbelievers. That’s what they unbelievers to some kind of ordox mule or priest.

              If the ayatollahs say all obscene - they say the new Islamic order, world circumcision, first to slaughter the United States, then to Russia, after all, I can’t bear their ravings on the entire Iranian people.

              For all the time of the Middle Ages in Europe, they burned either 3 or 5 million witches. But I do not bear the ignorance of those priests on all the inhabitants of modern Europe. In the Middle Ages, it is not known how many, but the Slavs drowned in the holes of the witches, but I do not bear it all in today's Slavs.

              Some historian hypothesized that the inner fortress - Detinets, is called so because the Rus, sacrificed to Perun, were laid at an angle to the starting structure of the child. But I can’t stand this nonsense on the Russian people.
              1. SSR
                SSR 20 March 2013 18: 16 New
                0
                Quote: Beck
                And according to the statement of one, two crazy clerics, I do not intend to blame the whole people for something.

                Yes, I actually don’t blame the people))) but here is a number of rabbis in America who speak at the medieval level, for example Ginzburg and who were favorably visited by the Clintons and other strong USs .... this casts some doubt on the sanity of people and given that it is for the people and the course of their policies.
                as an example movie.
                http://youtu.be/I9EOImNMOrg
        2. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 40 New
          -3
          The last Sanhedrin seems to have been dispersed by the Romans in 70 AD, since then there could have been no rabbis of the Sanhedrin, due to the lack of the Sanhedrin.
  • PISTOL
    PISTOL 20 March 2013 09: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: Arkan
    Jews are vile, bloodthirsty creatures. And as long as this offspring exists, there will be no sign of peace in the world.


    No wonder they have long been saying, and the West is among them, that there will be no Israel at all for 7-10 years, only now I began to understand why)
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 20 March 2013 09: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: GUN
      No wonder they have long been saying, and the West is among them, that there will be no Israel at all for 7-10 years, only now I began to understand why)

      I think the matter is not only in the existence of the state of Israel, it is necessary to get rid of their sects in all Slavic countries.
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 20 March 2013 10: 47 New
      -16
      Quote: GUN
      No wonder they have long been saying, and the West among them, that there will be no Israel at all for 7-10 years,

      Yeah, they’ve been saying this for about 40 years ...
      Quote: GUN
      only now I began to understand why)

      So suddenly, all the chakras opened abruptly and knew the TRUTH, by the way, we are still organizing genocide in the occupied territories, we have hundreds of death camps in the desert, we are all part of the ZOG, and we have long divided up Russia, I’ll get a small town, by the Black Sea ...
      1. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 10: 52 New
        -2
        It’s good that it’s not white :) Shabesh-goy you take? I don’t need much, a couple of plates of matzo and all the income from the town on Saturday, you Saturday income is one damn thing not kosher.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 20 March 2013 11: 05 New
          -10
          Quote: Hunter Thomson
          Shabes-goy take it?

          I will raise this issue at the next meeting after we decide what Obama will say about Syria and who will be the next president of Russia.
          1. Hunter thomson
            Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 11: 15 New
            -2
            http://topwar.ru/25558-i-snova-o-revolyucii-i-kontrrevolyucii.html

            Yesterday I was already ironed in the subject for YOU, and none of YOU Zionists even appeared.
            As in that joke: "But for me something, I’m not even Kolyan."
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 20 March 2013 15: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              Yesterday I was already ironed in the subject for YOU, and none of YOU Zionists even appeared.
              As in that joke: "But for me something, I’m not even Kolyan."

              made laugh))))))))))))))))))
              There was nothing alone without the Zionists to go anywhere))))))))))))))
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 20 March 2013 15: 31 New
                +1
                Yarbay "There was nothing alone without the Zionists to go anywhere)"
                That's right!!! Hehe ...
            2. TUMAN
              TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 04 New
              +5
              Quote: Hunter Thomson
              Yesterday I was already ironed in the subject for YOU, and none of YOU Zionists even appeared. As in that joke: "But for me something, I’m not even Kolyan."

              good Here is such gratitude from the chosen ones! lol
          2. GG2012
            GG2012 20 March 2013 21: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Rumata
            I will raise this issue at the next meeting after we decide what Obama will say about Syria and who will be the next president of Russia.


            [img] http://humorial.ru/images/dems/dem_101642.jpg?1343651761 [/ img]
          3. TUMAN
            TUMAN 20 March 2013 21: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: Rumata
            I will raise this issue at the next meeting after we decide what Obama will say about Syria and who will be the next president of Russia.

            Is it in the Uman synagogue that such questions are being solved ?! lol
    3. DeerIvanovich
      DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 11: 16 New
      +5
      Israel is destined for the fate of the Jews in the Second World War, so that later they will milk the money from the vanquished, the so-called Holocaust 2 laughing and nothing to reinvent the wheel
      1. Chavy
        Chavy 20 March 2013 18: 30 New
        +2
        Exactly so, these Jews will be immigrants from the former USSR and Ethiopians who are basically unable to escape.
    4. Beck
      Beck 20 March 2013 11: 38 New
      -9
      Quote: GUN
      No wonder they have long been saying, and the West is among them, that there will be no Israel at all for 7-10 years, only now I began to understand why)


      And what do you understand?

      That’s why it suddenly and from what such a pantalyk of Israel will suddenly not be? What should happen?

      The most ancient people of the planet - Jews have existed for about 5 years. They still saw the Sumerians, the Hittites, the ancient Egyptians, the Babylonians, they saw the incomparable cities of ancient civilizations and why would they suddenly disappear. They were smashed, driven out, killed in Jewish pogroms for 000 years, but they survived. And in the 2st century it is no longer possible just to physically destroy any nation. About this, even a normal person, it’s shameful to think.
      1. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN 20 March 2013 15: 49 New
        +7
        Quote: Beck
        The most ancient people of the planet - Jews have existed for about 5 years. They still saw the Sumerians, the Hittites, the ancient Egyptians, the Babylonians, they saw the incomparable cities of ancient civilizations

        Interestingly interesting, after you "saw" all of the listed peoples, they disappeared from the face of the earth ....
        You forgot to add that you have already seen the Russian Empire and the USSR more than once, and now you are looking at Russia, with Comrade Brzezinski ....
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 16: 13 New
          -4
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          It is interestingly interesting, after you “saw” all the listed peoples, they disappeared from the face of the earth ...


          There are no flags, so people are misleading. I am not a Jew. Kazakh I.

          About five years old, when I could not read, I pulled two large black folios from the bookshelf. I could not read, but I considered photo illustrations. And I saw barbed wire, exhausted to the skeletons of people, mountains of corpses, stoves with human remains, children with tattoos of numbers on the forearms. I saw the eyes of prisoners in which there was despair, longing, hopelessness and not a single tear. Since in the souls of these people HOPE has also died.

          I had a state of childish, unaccountable, all-consuming horror. The optimistic children's world in me went out. Later I read the name of these books and read their contents. The books were called "NURENBERG PROCESS".
          1. dusha233
            dusha233 20 March 2013 17: 44 New
            +5
            Who told you that you are Kazakh? Look at the mirror, you will see a Jew !!!
          2. TUMAN
            TUMAN 20 March 2013 17: 46 New
            +6
            Quote: Beck
            About five years old, when I could not read, I pulled two large black folios from the bookshelf. I could not read, but I considered photo illustrations. And I saw barbed wire, exhausted to the skeletons of people, mountains of corpses, stoves with human remains, children with tattoos of numbers on the forearms. I saw the eyes of prisoners in which there was despair, longing, hopelessness and not a single tear. Since in the souls of these people HOPE has also died.

            Well nifiga yourself, straight Hollywood script! Oscar is yours! lol
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 18: 03 New
              -2
              Quote: TUMAN
              Well nifiga yourself, straight Hollywood script! Oscar your


              And that there are limitations in what style, what to state. I am writing as I can and as I want.

              For information, I wrote one script and shot a film in Kazakhstan. He wrote a series of stories about forensic medicine. He wrote an essay about God - "Triune Cathedral". And one more thing at work.

              This is bad?
          3. FATEMOGAN
            FATEMOGAN 20 March 2013 18: 07 New
            +4
            Quote: Beck
            I had a state of childish, unaccountable, all-consuming horror. The optimistic children's world in me went out. Later I read the name of these books and read their contents. The books were called "NURENBERG PROCESS".

            Although you want acute sensations, read the history of Russia, watch documentaries on whose money and who made the revolution of 17 years in the Russian Empire. Look at the statistics and pictures of the famine in Russia, when mothers killed their one child, in order to THEM, feed other children starving to death, watch THESE photographs and films and stop confusing Jews and Zionists and protect the latter!
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 18: 38 New
              -5
              Quote: FATEMOGAN
              , watch documentaries on whose money and who made the revolution of 17 years in the Russian Empire.


              I read and saw.

              Yes, most revolutionaries are Jews. But I do not blame the Jews, but the re-positioners. And what pushed the Jews into the revolution? By the 19th century, Jewish pogroms in Europe had sneaked. In tsarist Russia they continued - Beat ... in - Save Russia. And this happened both in Russia and in its regions in Ukraine and Poland. And all this with the tacit agreement of the authorities and the tacit approval of the church. These Jewish youths of the mid-19th century who saw the pogroms, humiliations, the death of their relatives and went to the revolution.

              And the most important thing. Here came the reptiles, they got things up, they brought disaster. Where were we ourselves? That there was no head to think - Who to follow, and who to drive to the neck.

              Jewish revolutionaries were in the Council of People's Commissars, in the Central Committee and did a lot of trouble. And who were the delegates to all the congresses of the RSDLPb. Who were the guard in the area? Who were the firing squads? Who were the members of the Bedkoms in the village who dispossessed of reference men. Who were the Red Guard soldiers? Who were the food surplus teams? Who were the Red Army defenders of the bloody revolutionaries?

              We ourselves were. And now ... Yes, what to say. They didn’t think with their own heads, a ghost of will swept over. Would not succumb to false slogans - All power to the Soviets. Peace to the nations. Land to the peasants, Factory workers. Now they would live in a completely different state. And it was then these revolutionaries, well, ten thousand in strength. And the people of Russia are 100 million. Well, who is more to blame?
              1. TUMAN
                TUMAN 20 March 2013 18: 57 New
                +4
                Quote: Beck
                Yes, most revolutionaries are Jews. But I do not blame the Jews, but the re-positioners. And what pushed the Jews into the revolution? By the 19th century, Jewish pogroms in Europe had sneaked. In tsarist Russia they continued - Beat ... in - Save Russia. And this happened both in Russia and in its regions in Ukraine and Poland. And all this with the tacit agreement of the authorities and the tacit approval of the church. These Jewish youths of the mid-19th century who saw the pogroms, humiliations, the death of their relatives and went to the revolution.

                In gives! I have not seen a more cynical justification for the "Red Terror"! Yes it is in Hebrew, hutspa on the face!
                1. Beck
                  Beck 20 March 2013 19: 20 New
                  -2
                  Quote: TUMAN
                  In gives! I have not seen a more cynical justification for the "Red Terror"! Yes it is in Hebrew, hutspa on the face!


                  That's what you distort. Where did I justify the red terror? WHERE? Show me.

                  I just put forward my version of why the Jewish youths went into revolution. And it does not mean that she is true. But I see it that way.

                  I also have a version that Kazakhstan has become the most successful country in Central Asia because there are many Russians in Kazakhstan. They came to the virgin lands, and to the all-Union construction sites. Less came to other countries in the region. So these Russians not only worked and lived, but also transferred part of their metality. This mixed mentality allowed us to build in 20 years what is now called modern Kazakhstan.
                  1. TUMAN
                    TUMAN 20 March 2013 19: 52 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Beck
                    That's what you distort. Where did I justify the red terror? WHERE? Show me.

                    Are we already on you? I don’t remember something!
                    Quote: Beck
                    I just put forward my version of why the Jewish youths went into revolution. And it does not mean that she is true. But I see it that way.

                    That's how it really is!
                    Trotsky’s "Policy Statement", made by him in the summer of 1917 in
                    Petrograd: "We must turn it [Russia] into a desert inhabited
                    white negroes to whom we will give such tyranny as never dreamed
                    never the most terrible despots of the East. The only difference is that
                    this tyranny will not be on the right, but on the left, and not white, but red. AT
                    the literal sense of the word is red, for WE WILL SPILL SUCH FLOWS
                    BLOOD BEFORE WHICH KEEP AND BROTHER ALL HUMAN LOSSES
                    CAPITALIST WARS. The largest bankers from overseas will work
                    in close contact with us. If we win the revolution, crush
                    Russia, then on the debris of it we will strengthen the power of Zionism and
                    become such a force in front of which the whole world will fall to its knees. we
                    show what real power is. By terror, bloodbaths we
                    we will bring the Russian intelligentsia to complete dullness, to complete
                    idiocy, to an animal state ... In the meantime, our young men in leather
                    jackets - the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and
                    Vinnitsa, - oh, how wonderful, how delightfully they know how to hate
                    ALL RUSSIAN! With what pleasure they physically destroy the Russian
                    the intelligentsia - officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals,
                    agronomists, academics, writers! "
                    So said the one who soon became the second person in the state after
                    Lenin! AND ALL THIS is he - Trotsky-Bronstein and his associates:
                    Kamenev-Rosenfeld, Zinoviev-Apfelbaum and others (like Trotsky himself,
                    personifying, as a rule, belonging to the trinity -
                    Judaism, Zionism and Freemasonry) implemented after coming to
                    authorities in Russia.
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 20 March 2013 20: 17 New
                      -4
                      Quote: TUMAN
                      Are we already on you? I don’t remember something!


                      Come on. The years are not those, and not in the boarding house of noble maidens. Well, if it really warps, do not answer. I wouldn’t distort and You wouldn’t be.
                    2. Beck
                      Beck 20 March 2013 20: 34 New
                      -3
                      Quote: TUMAN
                      WE WILL SPILL SUCH BLEEDS BEFORE WHICH KEEP AND PREVENT ALL ALL HUMAN LOSSES OF THE WAR.


                      Well, that’s what they went after him, for the bloodsucker, for Trotsky, and they protected him from the whites and carried him over themselves. In order not to drive him away. He proclaimed, and we shot at each other ourselves.
                      1. TUMAN
                        TUMAN 20 March 2013 21: 07 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Beck
                        Well, that’s what they went after him, for the bloodsucker, for Trotsky, and they protected him from the whites and carried him over themselves. In order not to drive him away. He proclaimed, and we shot at each other ourselves.

                        I’m the one for you ... and in the dermo, so you don’t chase the snowstorm here! And he didn’t tell how he looked at pictures in childhood!
                      2. Beck
                        Beck 20 March 2013 21: 19 New
                        -3
                        Quote: TUMAN
                        I’m the one for you ... and in the dermo, so you don’t chase the snowstorm here! And he didn’t tell how he looked at pictures in childhood!


                        And you do not read. Take a walk further. Or add to the blacklist. You won’t be upset. You’ll save your nerves.
                      3. TUMAN
                        TUMAN 20 March 2013 21: 46 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Beck
                        And you do not read. Take a walk further. Or add to the blacklist. You won’t be upset. You’ll save your nerves.

                        I do not use the blacklist, out of principle. The Vedas are the destiny of God's chosen and other slobber! I am not upset, but I am taking you to clean water. After all, from you, like from Hunter Thomson, he carries a milestone as a milestone, and no matter how you pretend to be a Kazakh, I will quickly bite your brother! tongue
                2. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 21 March 2013 01: 11 New
                  -4
                  Quote: TUMAN
                  And it will not be difficult for you to give a link to the source? And then the Internet stubbornly refuses to associate these phrases with Trotsky. In general, only a clinical statement could be made to the Russians, and they say Lev Davidovich was friends with brains. It looks like a fake, but it's still interesting to read the source.
                  1. TUMAN
                    TUMAN 22 March 2013 15: 26 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    And it will not be difficult for you to give a link to the source

                    It will be difficult! Googling it yourself, and you will find it is not served on Thursdays!
      2. Chavy
        Chavy 20 March 2013 18: 36 New
        +2
        By the way, you should worry as a Kazakh, because the Zionists have a plan to revive the Khazar Kaganate, and western Kazakhstan (Aktau, Zhanaozen) may break away from you and go to the Judeo-Khazars :) This process has already begun.
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 18: 55 New
          -3
          Quote: Chavy
          By the way, you should worry as a Kazakh, because the Zionists have a plan to revive the Khazar Kaganate, and western Kazakhstan (Aktau, Zhanaozen) may break away from you and go to the Judeo-Khazars :) This process has already begun.


          Well, I don’t know what to call it. What the hell is the Khazar Khaganate. Sorry, but the brains must be crushed into a cake to say that. The Khazar Kagant was mainly located in the lower Volga and to the west and to the floor of the Crimea. What Russia and Ukraine will give these lands? Jews do not claim them. The descendants of the assimilation of Turks and Jews are Karaites. After the fall of the kagant, they lived in Crimea. Then their Lithuanian prince Vitovt resettled in Lithuania. And now these Karaites remain from the power of a thousand two, if not less.

          Well, what kind of haganat? The chickens in the eggs are laughing.
          1. Chavy
            Chavy 20 March 2013 19: 42 New
            +1
            You look at the map to start Haz. Kaganata, then start your argument
  • Chavy
    Chavy 20 March 2013 18: 33 New
    +2
    So said the Zionist Henry Kissinger, "The Israel Project will cease to exist within 10 years," confirm CIA analysts. You can read about it in Google

    Kissinger is one of the prominent Jewish Zionists, a protege of Masonic lodges.
  • MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 20 March 2013 09: 51 New
    15
    When will Israel finally settle down? Probably never. Every Israeli leadership has a manic obsession with destroying all life around Israel. Still, they are God's people, and everything around them is understood by non-people who do not have feelings, pain for the loss of loved ones, and therefore more pain, suffering and ruin can be added. And most importantly, there is always something to hide behind, as history shows, in most cases these are imaginary guesses about imaginary threats. And if someone from the outside just starts to suspect them of manic nature, the magic word immediately flies out - the Holocaust or anti-Semite and everyone is silent.
    As for the elder brother of Israel - the United States, there is no longer manic or other diagnosis, but super cynicism, which has lost its human appearance, and on such a scale that any maniac looks like a god’s dandelion.
    Now imagine if these two patients decide to invade Syria. Life will no longer be there.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 20 March 2013 10: 14 New
      10
      Quote: MRomanovich
      Now imagine if these two patients decide to invade Syria. Life will no longer be there.

      The worst part is that they have already invaded us (Ukraine and Russia). Here is one of the information sites of Ukraine (controlled by Jews) http://korrespondent.net/ - pay attention to how information about Russia is presented there. Reasonable comments on this the site is simply deleted, and the mud pours like water, the vast majority of anti-Russian comments belong to Jews impersonating Ukrainians (Verified).
  • Hunter thomson
    Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 10: 05 New
    0
    Israel horseradish radish is not sweeter. If there was only a rifleman, then they would sit on the Golan, the nipples would fry and look through binoculars as they knead each other there. And so, when there are full chemical cellars. weapons - scary. For two years they sat watching, did not twitch, but since they fussed, it seems that Assad’s affairs are bad.

    Quote: Arkan
    Jewels are prepared for the first American lady and daughters of the US president.


    Papuan beads? I don’t think such things will do. Where does this infa come from?


    Quote: Arkan
    We should forget about the past and open a new page. And Obama’s visit provides such an opportunity - to open a new page both at the level of personal relations with Netanyahu, and at the political level - with the new Israeli government


    After Nitanyuhu unceremoniously intervened in the presidential company, supported Romney and crap Obama, I don’t think that they will have peace and love for the next four years.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 20 March 2013 10: 23 New
      +1
      Your questions are a little at the wrong address, I am not the author of this article)))), but you can add a few more points to them. For example, Israel is actively squeezing the USA from the arms market of South America ... I think there are already influential people in the USA who want to Israel is only good ... But this is all without a background to the upcoming events, the future is not possible to predict.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 20 March 2013 17: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Hunter Thomson
      After Nitanyuhu unceremoniously intervened in the presidential company, supported Romney and crap Obama, I don’t think that they will have peace and love for the next four years.


      Today, Wednesday, March 20, begins the visit of the US President to Israel. The day before, quite unexpectedly, Secretary of State Kerry arrived in Israel. Also to Israel 600 people will arrive retinues of the president of the USA.
      In the USA, they know that Obama is unpopular in Israel and therefore the protocol service demanded that the Israeli side “ensure” a presence in the hall where Obama will perform a full house. According to some reports, this is about a thousand people.
      What will be interesting to do with the Obama suite of 600 people?
      We stock up on popcorn and watch why shake the air ahead of time in vain?
      The widespread mess begins.
      There will be no quick outcome in Syria. Tension in the region is beneficial to the main players.
  • Slevinst
    Slevinst 20 March 2013 10: 06 New
    +7
    It is necessary to save Syria
  • UzRus
    UzRus 20 March 2013 10: 07 New
    +5
    And you know what? We will be next in line “Well, you just have to understand now?” Well, better late than never. I wonder what our colleagues with Israeli flags in avatars will say on this article? ..
    1. ultra
      ultra 20 March 2013 10: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: UzRus
      I wonder what our colleagues with Israeli flags in avatars will say on this article? ..

      But there are no flags! RETURN THE FLAGS !!!! am
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 20 March 2013 11: 48 New
        +1
        And what was your flag? smile
        1. ultra
          ultra 20 March 2013 22: 31 New
          0
          Quote: UzRus
          And what was your flag?

          Rectangular with three colored stripes! good
  • kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 20 March 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    Strange Professor no))))
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 10: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: kostyan77708
      Strange Professor no))))

      Maybe here, he brought a lot of people into the emergency situation, in any case, he has not been seen for me for a long time. laughing
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 20 March 2013 17: 27 New
        +9
        Quote: Allex28
        Maybe here, he brought a lot of people into the emergency situation, in any case, he has not been seen for me for a long time.


        He has his own list of Magnitsky smile And who is not there ..!
        He was even allowed to enter the moderators on the list, although this is nonsense, but apparently for the local Browder, who suffered in childhood from a lack of fresh vegetables and fruits in the winter in the USSR, they made an exception. laughing
        He, like Browder, lobbied for this emergency on the site and now he is actively using it against "objectionable"
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 20 March 2013 17: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          He has his own list of “Magnitsky” and whoever is not there ..! He was even allowed to put moderators on the list, although this is nonsense, but apparently for the local Browder, who was suffering from a shortage of fresh vegetables and fruits in the winter in the USSR, as an exception, they made an exception. He, like Browder, lobbied for this emergency on the site and now he is actively using it against "objectionable"

          good
        2. ultra
          ultra 20 March 2013 22: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          He has his own list of Magnitsky

          KARAUL !!! And suddenly he brought me, now they will not let me go to Israel on vacation !!! lol
          1. TUMAN
            TUMAN 20 March 2013 23: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: ultra
            KARAUL !!! And suddenly he brought me, now they will not let me go to Israel on vacation !!!

            I advise Cuba! Much nicer, and the chosen ones do not go around!
  • zao74
    zao74 20 March 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    It’s time to introduce the Russian peacekeeping contingent, then there will be no military operation against Syria.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 20 March 2013 11: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: zao74
      It’s time to introduce the Russian peacekeeping contingent, then there will be no military operation against Syria.

      To do this, you need to acquire a UN mandate, but as mattresses are permanent members of the Soviet Security Council (veto power), you can only dream about it. hi
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 20 March 2013 13: 15 New
        +5
        Quote: Allex28
        To do this, get a UN mandate,

        I have repeatedly expressed my thought on this subject, I repeat: you just need to give Iran a few warheads and there will be neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia with Qatar, and with them there will be no competition in energy supplies to Europe, the number of players in the arms market will decrease will not become a petrodollar system ... good laughing
        1. Beck
          Beck 20 March 2013 13: 43 New
          -9
          Quote: Arkan
          I have repeatedly expressed my thoughts on this matter, I repeat: you just need to give Iran a few warheads and there will be neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia with Qatar, and with them there will be no competition in energy supplies to Europe, the number of players in the arms market will decrease will not become a petrodollar system.


          Why are you better than Hitler. How is that possible? For the proceeds of money, for the loot, to advocate for the nuclear destruction of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. They don’t like them, but to kill people only because they don’t like them, and most importantly, to remove entire nations from the face of the earth for the sake of profit, how is it? There are generally accepted economic levers to sell your gas.

          Yeah. You do not have thoughts, but the bloodthirsty intentions of the hater. Hitler rejoices in hell that he has such a zealous follower. And nowhere else, but in Russia. With your help, Arkan, Hitler’s cause will stink for a long time over the planet.
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 March 2013 14: 02 New
            +8
            Quote: Beck
            Why are you better than Hitler. How is that possible? For the proceeds of money, for the loot, to advocate for the nuclear destruction of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. They don’t like them, but to kill people only because they don’t like them, and most importantly, to remove entire nations from the face of the earth for the sake of profit, how is it? There are generally accepted economic levers to sell your gas.

            Yeah. You do not have thoughts, but the bloodthirsty intentions of the hater. Hitler rejoices in hell that he has such a zealous follower. And nowhere else, but in Russia. With your help, Arkan, Hitler’s cause will stink for a long time over the planet.

            Again confusing God's gift with fried eggs laughing ? The Wahhabis have long been killing us (Slavs), and the Jews support them in this (all the information channels belonging to the Jews are on their side in the information war). What you sow is what you will eat, regardless of historical parallels. laughing
            1. Beck
              Beck 20 March 2013 14: 06 New
              -7
              Quote: Arkan
              Again confusing God's gift with fried eggs


              Shut up, the last of Nazism. There is NO conversation with you after your nuclear bombing.
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 20 March 2013 14: 20 New
                +6
                Quote: Beck
                Shut up, the last of Nazism. There is NO conversation with you after your nuclear bombing

                laughing I am the same Nazi as my grandfather who passed from Kursk to Berlin laughing For the rest, I agree with you - we really have nothing to talk about. The evil spirits in the form of Zionists and Wahhabis need to be exterminated - and not talk to her.
                1. Beck
                  Beck 20 March 2013 14: 36 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Arkan
                  I am the same Nazi as my grandfather who passed from Kursk to Berlin


                  I can not resist. I’ll answer for the last time.

                  You are the military glory of your grandfather, like my father DO NOT TOUCH. Your glorious grandfather in a tomb turned upside down that his grandson was the last of Nazism. He, your grandfather, fought against fascism not for life, but for the stomach so that there would no longer be people on earth who, because of profit, would offer to wipe entire nations off the face of the earth. One was Hitler, but your grandfather drove him into a coffin.

                  And I didn’t think, your grandfather wondered what was on his spilled holy blood, the last of Hitler’s, misanthropic ideology will grow up. Which is ready for silver to burn entire nations with nuclear fire.
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 20 March 2013 15: 11 New
                    +4
                    As far back as 90 years, Zionism was officially considered an anti-human ideology on a par with fascism, and only with the collapse of the USSR did the Jews manage to "settle" this issue at the UN ... Didn't you know that? laughing So I go the same way with my ancestors.
                    Quote: Beck
                    Which is ready for silver to burn entire nations with nuclear fire

                    There are no options here, if they force me to take up arms again - I’ll try to ensure that my children are not in any danger in the future, in view of the COMPLETE elimination of any “God’s chosen” and “knowing the truth ...” laughing
                  2. TUMAN
                    TUMAN 20 March 2013 15: 55 New
                    10
                    Quote: Beck
                    Which is ready for silver to burn entire nations with nuclear fire.

                    What about nuclear strikes on Japan ?! Is Arkan's grandfather to blame? The genocide of the Palestinians, the war in Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, the bombing of civilians in Gaza - is this also Arkan's grandfather to blame? Grandfather Arkan, like mine, grandfather fought against fascism, which was controlled by Zionism!
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 20 March 2013 16: 40 New
                      -7
                      Quote: TUMAN
                      What about nuclear strikes on Japan ?!


                      Then there was a war. There was martial law with all the ensuing consequences. Cruel, but war.

                      After the capture of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, the United States more than once offered Japan to surrender. Japan refused more than once, assuring that Japan would fight on its islands until the last soldier.

                      The General Staff of the U.S. Army began to prepare a landing actually on the Japanese islands. It turned out that the war could drag on for a year and a half. American soldiers can die from 1 million to two. The Japanese coupled with the civilian population of up to 5 million. And after the mother of these dead, 1,5 million American soldiers would ask the government - How did you have the means to end the war in one week, and you put 1,5 million of our sons.

                      A bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed about 200 people. Blasphemous. But the death of 000 million people would be even more blasphemous. But Japan unconditionally surrendered in 7 week and without millions of victims.

                      If in November 1941, during the most difficult situation near Moscow, Soviet aviation would bomb two German cities with nuclear strikes, I would not mind. And Germany would not capitulate in May1945, but in December 1941. And there would be no 50 million victims in Europe, and 20 million killed in the USSR.
                      1. TUMAN
                        TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 48 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Beck
                        Then there was a war. There was martial law with all the ensuing consequences. Cruel, but war.

                        Beck! Write this nonsense on Western sites! Perhaps the western liberal-degraded philistine will believe you! But here, this is your scripture, it sounds like a mockery!
                      2. dusha233
                        dusha233 20 March 2013 17: 49 New
                        +3
                        Beck you rascal is the same as the Zionists !!!! And how the earth wears you !!
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 20 March 2013 20: 05 New
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                        Quote: dusha233
                        Beck you rascal is the same as the Zionists !!!! And how the earth wears you !!


                        What else can you say? I understand there is no argument, so insults come down. Say don’t be shy. If what I ask the admins, so as not to punish you.

                        And the earth carries me, does not bend. Be healthy. I'm waiting for your new epithets.
                      4. Hunter thomson
                        Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 20: 48 New
                        +1
                        But then on “You”, albeit with a small letter. wink Do not expect much variety in epithets. The set of phrases of this comrade is very poor.
                  3. ultra
                    ultra 20 March 2013 22: 38 New
                    +1
                    Finally it dawned on me! It turns out that the atomic bombing was out of "humane" motives, and I naively thought of something else! negative
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 March 2013 15: 18 New
          -4
          Quote: Arkan
          Once again confusing God's gift with scrambled eggs, the Wahhabis have been killing us (Slavs) for a long time, and the Jews support them in this (all information channels belonging to the Jews are on their side in the information war). .

          Wahhabis kill Muslims before you !!
          and in general, besides themselves, they do not consider that anyone has the right to life !!
          about the information war, I think everything is much more complicated than it seems to you at first sight!
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 20 March 2013 15: 43 New
            +6
            Quote: Yarbay
            Wahhabis kill Muslims before you !!

            Good afternoon! Yes, I know how and with whose help they took possession of Muslim shrines, etc. But they did not complete their expansion on this, and now they represent a real threat to us (Slavs) - I spoke in this context .
            Quote: Yarbay
            about the information war, I think everything is much more complicated than it seems to you at first sight!

            I’ve been watching this circus in Ukraine and Russia for twenty years ... I think it's time to call a spade a spade - inciting hatred between Ukraine and Russia, embezzlement on an especially large scale, trading in the interests of the country of residence, direct or indirect support of our enemies ... --- All this brings us direct harm, and we must fight against this no matter what considerations they do.
            1. TUMAN
              TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 27 New
              +4
              Quote: Arkan
              I’ve been watching this circus in Ukraine and Russia for twenty years.

              The revolution of 1917 - the third stage of the Jewish occupation of Russia

              As one of the leaders of the revolution, Stalin said: "Cadres decide everything." In this revolution, the cadres were extremely narrowly defined.

              More than 90 percent of revolutionary activists and chiefs are people of so-called Jewish-Semitic descent (hereinafter - the CES). Most of them are foreigners. It is enough to give an example: the government apparatus in Petrograd in 1919 consisted of only 16 Russians and 371 Jews. Moreover, 265 of them came from New York [see "AND"].

              The results of this phase of the occupation are evident. All posts in the administration of the new country - the USSR - were occupied by people of Jewish-Semitic origin.

              They realized the direct physical destruction of the Russian people — bloody genocide: “civil” war, famine, Stalinist “repressions”, dispossession, etc.

              Control over the property of Russians passed into the hands of the ruling revolutionary elite. Across Russia, the “atheistic” leadership seems to have built Jewish synagogues. And therefore, from the point of view of the victorious invaders, the idea of ​​renaming the USSR into the idea of ​​“fixing” the Jewish people — Israel — seemed quite natural.
              Perestroika - the fourth and final stage of the Jewish occupation of Russia

              After the occupiers “delivered” Russian property from their rightful owners, and it became known as “national”, the turn came to the final stage of the occupation of Russia — the distribution of the conquered property and land between their conquerors. This phase is called "Perestroika-Democracy-Privatization."

              “We are privatizing Russia,” is what the title of the book that was published in Cambridge (USA) replacing Esp Chubais as Chairman of the State Property Committee of the Russian Federation, US citizen Esp Boyko. Co-author - esp Andrei Schleifer, developer of voucher privatization.

              And, if in 1991 in Russia the property was 90 percent owned by the state, then, after the fourth stage of the EU occupation has been completed, it already more than 60 percent belongs to the EU business.
              The destruction of the Russian people - the final stage of the occupation of Russia

              At a press conference (vip.lenta.ru webcast, December 18.12.2003, XNUMX), Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a direct order to begin this stage:

              [?] “This issue has a particular priority for Russia. Those who say “Russia for Russians” are dishonest people who don’t understand what they are doing, and then they are simply either provocateurs. What do they achieve? We have articles in the Criminal Code, the prosecutor's office must respond to such manifestations. I must tell you that last year more than 60 such cases were brought up, 20 cases were brought to court. And about 17-20 convictions were handed down. As for those parties that allowed things of this kind ... I’ll talk with the prosecutor general, I’ll ask him to analyze all this. ”

              Of course, a “normal person” can say that the organization by the president of a country that is not the homeland of Jews and does not belong to them, criminal terror against their own, indigenous, native people - this is right.
          2. Hunter thomson
            Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 43 New
            -1
            As many Wahhabis killed ordinary Muslims, there are no Jews on the planet, that's for sure.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 20 March 2013 10: 57 New
    +7
    Well, how much can Russia hide its head in the sand? If decisive measures are not taken now, Syria will certainly perish, Iran will follow (and there is no need to shout here about the powerful Iranian army and the full support of the country's population - all this is a trifle against NATO), and then Russia and the entire CIS will follow. However, here on the site there are (not often but commentators, apparently white ribbons) who see the situation differently, like Russia does not need to intervene anywhere, like our hut from the edge, there are such degenerates (they have no other name) in the government and I I really hope that Putin and most are not like that. They must understand what the death of Syria threatens Russia. There is a statement from Assad in the BRICS on military intervention by the BRICS forces of Syria. What else is needed? Or will we again begin to search for the secret meaning? Any traps? Now we are just chatting and Lavrov and everyone else, and the Americans, unlike us, are doing what they consider necessary - they are taking over the world. No one speaks of a full-scale war, it is enough to introduce 100 thousand troops (BRICS), a couple of dozen ships, 50 aircraft, Iskander, s-300, etc. and hell who sticks there, loot and roll away. They will discuss it unequivocally - no one will fight with Russia and China. Iran urgently shipped with -300, it is necessary to fulfill the contract despite Israel - the Jews spit on any agreements with us for the sake of their interests, so why don't we answer them with the same coin?
    1. Hunter thomson
      Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 11: 10 New
      +2
      Stop repeating stupidity. BRICS is a fiction that was invented by Jim O'Neill, a senior strategist at GoldmanSuchs, to invest investors in high-risk assets. There is no BRICS. India and China are generally preparing for war with each other and are engaged in strategic deterrence. South Africa (South Africa briсS) in this group generally screwed with a fright. Brazil and Russia also have nothing in common. BRICS is a fiction, a brand invented and promoted by the Goldman Sachs strategists and Jim O'Neill personally. There is no BRICS in reality, the brand has lived for some time, the papers have been revealed to investors, and a couple of summits have been held in the trash for the most pomp. Now the Goldman Sachs is playing another project.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 20 March 2013 11: 38 New
        +3
        And for me, at least BRICS, at least X..x- does not matter, and the text of my comment does not change - there is Russia, China and others who, if they want, can stop this massacre, if not by sending troops, then at least by deploying iskander, 300, special forces and point strikes. The rest is PR and empty chatter. And most importantly, meaningless, the same as your comment.
        1. Hunter thomson
          Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 11: 43 New
          +3
          Will you beat Rebel from S-300? This is the Middle East, there the slaughter with short breaks of the last 5000 years does not stop. The Edomites, having drunk the Sadducees, then the Philistines against the Jews, then the Jews against the Romans, then drove the Jews out of there, the Arabs came to begin to slaughter each other. You know the joke: I tell you a rotten place, and you give me your hands out of yours, hands from yours! The slaughter there can be stopped only in one way - to take all the children from the Aboriginal people by force and give them a normal education, which would break the vicious circle of negative programming from father to son. The massacre in Syria periodically occurred under Pope Hafez, and before him and after Assad did not stop. So to speak, cultural code (the Indians probably programmed laughing )
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta 20 March 2013 11: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      Unless decisive action is taken, Syria will certainly perish

      it’s too early, too early. Assad has been holding on for 2 years, and it is clear that his troops are not weakening, which means helping early.
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      Iran will follow

      last year, everyone said, over the span, that the war will be in Iran. but in the yard, as we see 2013, and there is no war in Iran. Iran may be the next one, but it understands this very well, therefore it helps Syria and Russia hasn’t help should be openly. although we have already supplied Syria with equipment well before the war, and now we are supplying spare parts. For example, are our military ships mooring in Tartus, what are they delivering there, and no one will dare to stop and inspect a military ship! Assad wassat or do you think they’re just getting a cup of tea for a drink?
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 20 March 2013 12: 03 New
        0
        I do not just think that it’s early, I’m almost sure that it’s too late.
    3. TUMAN
      TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 40 New
      +3
      We continue!
      We continue!
      Israel - Jews and Gentiles

      The charter of the Israeli political party Likud [h. 2] the goal is defined:

      [!] “Protection of the right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel as an eternal right not subject to doubt, the retention of settlements and the planned development”.

      And in the program of the Israeli movement "Jewish leadership", a unit of "Likud", recorded:

      [!] “We believe that Israel should be a Jewish state, where there is a Jewish culture, where Jewish self-consciousness is brought up in children. We do not want to live in a faceless state of "all inhabitants."

      The same program indicates the source of such nationalism:

      [!] “The origins of the program: Jewish tradition. Many times emphasizes the Torah (the first five books of the Bible - “A”) of Israel, that this land belongs to the Jews. Our loyalty to the Land of Israel rests on the Jewish faith. We are commanded by the Most Highs to take possession of this land, not to give it to any other people. ”

      And in the same program the words of the Jewish nationalist victory over other peoples of Israel are spelled out:

      [!] “Such a decision was successfully implemented in East Jerusalem. Arabs in the eastern part of the city have Israeli identity cards, but do not have the right to elect the Knesset. ”

      It remains to ask a fair question: what do Israeli law enforcement agencies do with the manifestation of such nationalism, fascism and the direct violation of the rights of other peoples by the Jewish people?

      The answer should overwhelm a “normal” person: Likud is the ruling party in Israel, and the quotes quoted are the basis of Israeli public policy.
      Russia - Slavs, Russians, Jews

      Slavism is the native religion of Europe’s largest group of related peoples with a total number of more than 300 million people, united by the proximity of languages ​​and common origin. The age of the Slavs is more than 20 thousand years. The One God of the Slavs - Rod.

      Russians are a people originating from the first ancestor Rus - the son of Bohumir; the grandson of Maren and Dazhbog, Perun and Rosi; great-grandson of Lada and Svarog; great-great-grandson of the Sort - the one God [for more details see the article “The Genealogy of Russian Gods”]. Russians profess the Slavic religion and are the largest people in the Russian Federation - 119.865.900 people (81,5% of the population) [1989 census].

      Jews are a historically non-national, non-racial, non-ethnic, non-territorial association of persons based on membership in an artificially created mainly criminal community. Semitic peoples have historically been the "suppliers" to the Jewish world. Thus, the Arabs had a tradition of expelling male criminals from cities and villages, which accumulated in the largest trading boiler - the inevitable parasitism generator, covering (according to a modern map) Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and the territories of southern Iran, Iraq, Turkey. African exiles were gradually joined by immigrants from Africa.

      In the book “The Old Testament and His Peace”, the orientalist, Doctor of Historical Sciences Ilya Sholeimovich Shifman gives the following definition:

      [!] "... belonged to the Hebrew social group (the so-called people who lost their social connections and were doomed to vagrancy; hence the modern" Jew ")."

      [for more details see the article "Myths of supranational criminal parasitism"]
      1. Beck
        Beck 20 March 2013 17: 40 New
        -6
        Quote: TUMAN
        We continue!


        And the Russian land, for the Papuans, is also for the Russians.
      2. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 19: 11 New
        -1
        did not find an article: Family tree of Russian gods. can still provide a link, and then send it is not clear where
  • maestro123
    maestro123 20 March 2013 11: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: zao74
    It’s time to introduce the Russian peacekeeping contingent, then there will be no military operation against Syria.

    soldier help is necessary. but not with people, but with technology and training. This war does not yet have a front line, so our MC cannot be entered!
    This is more of a guerrilla war.
    1. TUMAN
      TUMAN 20 March 2013 16: 45 New
      +1
      And a little more!

      Hypersionism - Fascism of the Third Millennium

      This is what his ideologist Rabbi Avrom Shmulevich utters, who personally requested the list of fascists published on the website www.dazzle.ru:

      [?] “Hypersionism says: every place where a Jew lives becomes Zion. The main thing is not the presence of a garrison, but the inclusion of the territory in a common field, in the center of which is Israel. Great Israel must promote its henchmen and agents of influence at all important posts in other states. ”

      Can a normal person call such actions something different than occupation? And maybe reality itself already confirms the words of this rabbi? Recall how many premieres of Jews were in Russia. Here and Kiriyenko, and Primakov, and Chernomyrdin, and the current Fradkov. Perhaps this same hypersionism has already come for Russia?

      Perhaps the fact that between 2000 and October 2005 Russian President V. Putin held more than 25 personal meetings with the rabbis does not seem strange. Moreover, with growing “interest” in these meetings, in 2005 there were seven meetings.

      [for more details see the article “Dates of meetings of the President of Russia V.V. Putin with the rabbis "]

      Recall that according to the census in Russia there are only about 200.000 Jews, and less than 70.000 of them practice Judaism. What kind of electorate is this? What is this religious movement? For Russia - pah!

      Recall that in the recent war in the Balkans, the Americans destroyed 400.000 civilians. Nobody in the world even raised a finger, did not even squeak in their defense.

      Is it possible to devote so much time to these crumbs of people for the RUSSIAN, we emphasize, Russian president?
      Conclusion

      Why does the President of Russia consider it right in the year to the occupiers of the еспs-descent to oppose the Russian peoples, his own people, who elected him and whose rights he is obliged to protect under the Constitution of the Russian Federation?

      [!] “When the state is afraid of the people, then this is freedom. When people are afraid of the state, it’s tyranny, ”
      (Samuel Adams, one of the founders of the United States).

      In connection with the foregoing, on the basis of paragraph 2. Article. 19, paragraph 1. Article 45, clause 3. Article 68, paragraph 2. Article 80 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
      1. DeerIvanovich
        DeerIvanovich 20 March 2013 19: 13 New
        -1
        again refer to articles, but there are no links to them.
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 20 March 2013 21: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: DeerIvanovich
          again refer to articles, but there are no links to them.

          http://www.dazzle.ru/antifascism/ibop.shtml
          1. DeerIvanovich
            DeerIvanovich 21 March 2013 09: 44 New
            0
            this is another thing, well done
    2. dusha233
      dusha233 20 March 2013 17: 52 New
      +1
      AND VOLUNTEERS !!!! I know many people who want to go to Syria and fight on the side of the President !!! Zionism will not pass !!!
    3. ultra
      ultra 20 March 2013 22: 41 New
      0
      good
      Quote: maestro123
      , therefore, our MS can not be entered!
  • Hunter thomson
    Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 11: 28 New
    -6
    The people generally love to send other people's sons to the slaughter. Although there seems to be flights to Damascus, if so, go fight. No, they want to send other people's children. I don’t want to send equipment there either. At whose expense? For my? It would be better to give my taxes to the laboratory of Kostya Severinov so that he would not carry reagents from America at his own expense for students at his own expense. And let these be there somehow on their own. How many billions have already been written off by Syria and how many are written off. To all the questions of what kind of lyad we in this hole forgot everything for me only about world Zionism and the Anglo-Saxons and the galactic attacks of Darth Vader. What we raped from Syria for these dozens and dozens of yards ditched there since the time of the union, so no one could say.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 20 March 2013 11: 44 New
      +2
      You, in my opinion, in self-admiration do not understand the obvious things at all. Apparently on the swamp stick out. The meaning of the statements resembles the treacherous pragmatism and practicality of Nemtsov and other white ribbons. In this case, the notorious economic feasibility is covered in human blood, including children’s blood, and if this infection is not stopped, it will come to our house and Russia will again drown in blood. More discussion with people like you do not see the point.
      1. Hunter thomson
        Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 12: 00 New
        +1
        What would it not be in Russia, it is necessary that in Chechnya the children receive a normal education! And no infection will stick and come! I do not belong to white ribbons, because radish is not sweeter, Nemtsov had time to prove himself. Showed up. I remember this time well. Julie that those that these. And the following will be the same crook while the people will drool with bubbles, instead of thinking with their heads. Patriotism is primarily a concern for themselves and their country, and not the salvation of all Papuans from other Papuans around the world at the national expense. They want to find out who is more important in the Islamic world, the Alawites, Shiites or Wahhabis, they figure out the way without us. If we had economic interests there, I would still understand the reason to climb into this swamp. And since it always turns out to be the United States tops (Qatar, AOE, Saudis with multi-billion dollar contracts for armaments, consulting) and we have roots (all kinds of Syria, Burkino Faso and write-offs of tens of billions of dollars of bad debts), we already turned the USSR on, burned more in the Middle East more 400 in today's dollars, adjusted for inflation. It was possible, if not communism, then to build Swedish socialism. Yes **** they are a horse there, these poits!
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 20 March 2013 13: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Hunter Thomson
          Syria, any Burkino Faso and write off tens of billions of dollars of bad debts

          The idea is clear, but now there is neither Burkina nor Faso, there is nothing more to write off, and socialism has not been built. Moreover, the level of social protection of the population is lower than under the communists. What is the reason?
          1. Hunter thomson
            Hunter thomson 20 March 2013 17: 48 New
            0
            How is it not Burkina Faso? Airplanes to Vietnam, Venezuela, weapons to Syria, all for credit on parole. Yes, plus, the Kremlin parasites pull away so much that no Burkina Faso is needed. And how is there nothing to write off? And why do we continue to write off every year? And we write off, and then again we begin to deliver to the same hole. (Like, they wrote off the debt, the client began to feel better from this economically).
  • Skarte
    Skarte 20 March 2013 11: 59 New
    0
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    ... I don’t understand, is this a typo or is it really “Israel asks the US for permission to launch an air strike against Syria” ... then they don’t listen to anyone and just yesterday they struck, or all the same, Obama said “so be it, bomb” ... The UN has never fulfilled its functions, or rather performed, but only with permission!
  • wax
    wax 20 March 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    If the HUNTER appears here, then the rest turn into game.
  • 3 points from Ilyich
    3 points from Ilyich 20 March 2013 12: 03 New
    +5
    Israel is the most cunning state. By the sophistication of lies, the image of the long-suffering, the level of brainwashing of their own citizens, probably ahead of the United States and England, already sickening, fu .....
    1. Mironk
      Mironk 20 March 2013 23: 22 New
      0
      Of course, I apologize, how right is “3 points from Ilyich”, or “3 points”?
      Why only 3? And only in one place? And from which Ilyich - Vladimir, or Leonid, or maybe from some Abram Ilyich? Oh, these Abrams, well, no conscience!
  • Skarte
    Skarte 20 March 2013 12: 30 New
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    Uhahahahaha ... I even know how they get there ... Damn, the Iraqi version) Oh, I'm sorry, we were wrong, but we were sure there were mistakes, well, they bombed the country, and with whom it doesn’t happen, we are people too) )
  • Skarte
    Skarte 20 March 2013 12: 31 New
    +1
    Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
    .Uhahahahaha ... I even know how they get there ... Damn, Iraqi option) Oh, I'm sorry, we were wrong, but we were sure there were mistakes, well, they bombed the country, and with whom it doesn’t happen, we are people too )))
  • SHOGUN
    SHOGUN 20 March 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: DeerIvanovich
    as she did in the previous world war.

    As she did in the first and second world.

    I believe that Russia and China have been waiting for a long time for the resolution of the issue by the Syrians themselves. In the light of recent events, it is necessary to condemn the actions of the West and declare help by Siriisk. As the liberals did. It is necessary to prevent intervention. The position of the West is clear. Russia and China must show their own. And I think the Russian government, it would not be bad to legally allow ordinary people and enterprises to provide financial and other assistance to the Syrian army. After Syria will be Iran. And after Iran ....
  • albanec
    albanec 20 March 2013 12: 43 New
    +3
    Do not panic!

    I feel the matter is heading towards a denouement, the West understands that Assad cannot be defeated by old methods. The so-called "opposition" only shakes money from them, which the West, in the current crisis times, is less and less, and the residents of Western countries have more and more discontent.

    I hope our leaders and the Chinese do not oversleep!


    angry
  • serjant4
    serjant4 20 March 2013 14: 36 New
    +3
    Oh, Russia would not have thrown Syria ....
  • Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 20 March 2013 16: 01 New
    -4
    I do not think that the BRICS countries will put their heads because of Syria. Linking everything there.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 20 March 2013 17: 06 New
      +1
      Think about your friend before speaking))) ... you still need to see who's head folded there.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 20 March 2013 17: 07 New
    +2
    For BRICS, this is a real opportunity to try their hand. If there are no senility at the helm, there will be help from Syria ... otherwise Syria as a country will cease to exist. God help them ...
  • No_more
    No_more 20 March 2013 18: 26 New
    0
    “We see terrorist organizations that are becoming increasingly established in this territory, and they are fighting against Assad,” said Lieutenant General Benny Ganz at the same conference in Herzliya. “And you know what?” We will be next in line ”

    From this it follows that Israel fears precisely opposition forces fighting in Syria. In this case, Israeli representatives must support government actionwho are fighting these dangerous oppositionists. Is not it so?

    Assad’s army is in alliance with Hezbollah and a hostile Iran, possessing chemical weapons, and opposition leaders, including Al Qaeda and Islamist mercenaries from around the world, are hunting for this and other weapons, which may well be used in the fight for the Golan Heights, that is, against Israel.

    That is Israel states represented by Lieutenant General Benny Gantz that US and Friends of Syria Sponsor Al Qaeda and Islamic Mercenarieswho hunt for chemical weapons?

    Not bad. Why do our diplomats not use such rash statements by those who want to invade Syria? )
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 20 March 2013 20: 28 New
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    It is not clear to me why everyone is so scared of NATO? Do they have better weapons? More planes, tanks, ships? Yes, they are not warriors, only with countries like Iraq and Libya they can fight, and then only after everyone is bought. To target the terrorist training bases in Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the militant bases in Syria and all - the United States and others will immediately surrender, wail and calm down - they will not fight the guts of us. The only force who is ready to fight is Israel (to promise the safety of chemical weapons and the elimination of terrorists), but without the support of NATO the same will not come. The talk time is long gone.
  • storm
    storm 20 March 2013 23: 16 New
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    NATO troops are ready, if necessary, to conduct a military operation in Syria according to the Libyan scenario.


    This was stated at a hearing in the US Congress by the commander of the joint NATO forces in Europe, General James Stavridis.

    "Through NATO channels, we are now focused on protecting the border (Turkey) with Syria. For this we have moved Patriot missile systems there. We are considering a wide range of possible operations and are ready to act if we decide on our intervention in the situation, as was the case in Libya ", - said Stavridis.

    See PHOTO: Syria turns into ruins: women become rebels, and the army bombers cities with bombs

    He said that the situation in Syria is constantly deteriorating. 70 thousand people were killed, a million refugees were forced to leave the country, approximately 2,5 million people had to leave their homes.

    "So far, no end to the brutal civil war has been seen. So the alliance has taken this position: to move in the same sequence in which it moved in the situation with Libya," Stavridis emphasized.

    He recalled that the military operation in Libya was preceded by a UN Security Council resolution, a regional agreement and an agreement between 28 alliance countries.

    Recall that in March 2011, the UN Security Council authorized military intervention in the conflict in Libya under the pretext of protecting the population from the actions of the authorities. This enabled NATO to conduct air operations. As a result, the head of Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, was overthrown and then killed by rebels.
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 21 March 2013 00: 03 New
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    Dear Ascetic !!
    Why am I on your blacklist !!
    I showed you some kind of disrespect ???