Russian bases in Syria: forgive and forget?

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Russian bases in Syria: forgive and forget?


Force projection points


The violent overthrow of Bashar al-Assad's regime cannot be called painless or even neutral for the Kremlin. This is a tangible loss of reputation for Russia. The country is forced to concentrate on the protracted conflict with Ukraine, which the "regional elites" could not help but take advantage of. Iran, locked in an endless cold war with Israel, is in a similar situation. Strictly speaking, the attempted coup in Syria was predetermined. The Russian group has been significantly reduced and has been on the periphery of the Kremlin's attention since 2022. But even in this situation, no one expected that Damascus would fall so quickly. In Ukraine, they are already shouting about Russia's weakening to the state of a colossus with feet of clay. They say that they knocked it out of Syria, and we will knock it out of Ukraine too. Only to say that for the Kremlin, the Syrian story ended, very prematurely.




The Russian military-political leadership has traditionally been very sensitive to the possibility of projecting its power far from the border. The situation has noticeably worsened since the Soviet Union, but this does not relieve the country's leadership of responsibility. Everyone remembers that one of the important reasons for the return of Crimea to Russia was the Black Sea bases fleet. If the accession had not happened in 2014, there would be completely different rules in the Black Sea now. Therefore, the military and foreign policy departments of Russia will conduct negotiations on the bases in Tartus and Khmeimim. More precisely, they are already underway.

A typical marker of this was the transformation of the status of Assad's opponents in the Russian information field. As soon as it became clear that Damascus would inevitably fall, official sources started talking about the armed opposition. A day earlier, it was either militants or terrorists. There is nothing reprehensible in this. That same realpolitik in its purest form. Now the owners have officially changed in Syria, and for some time we will have to do business with them. Maybe this will last a long time, or maybe internal squabbles and a war of all against all will lead to complete anarchy. Russia will react in this case depending on the situation.

At present, the key force in Syria is the terrorists from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, which is banned in Russia. They are bad guys, of course, but there are some nuances here. Firstly, in terms of ferocity, they are several notches lower than the beasts from ISIS (a terrorist organization banned in Russia). Secondly, there is no one else to negotiate with in a torn-apart Syria. Of course, we can stamp our foot and slam the door, but others will take our place. For example, Macron, who so brightly welcomed the overthrow of Assad. As a result, diplomats and intelligence officers will have to do some serious work to prevent NATO thugs from appearing in Tartus and Khmeimim. They have experience.

It is enough to recall the Taliban, banned in Russia, who may be legalized in the very near future. Bearded men in turbans from Afghanistan are already real regulars at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. Of course, it will not be easy to directly repeat the success of the Taliban and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (terrorist organizations banned in Russia). The Aerospace Forces were dropping bombs on the heads of militants just yesterday, which, to put it mildly, does not contribute to a quick consensus. The new government, whatever it may be, is already taking the first steps towards meeting them halfway.

The flags are raised


Much has been said about the importance of Russian military facilities in Tartus and Khmeimim. In addition to the purely reputational story, for the Russian army these are important logistical points on the way to Africa and back. There will be no Syrian bases, the Kremlin's interests on the black continent can be pushed aside even by a regional player. We simply will not have time to carry out the rotation and organize operational supplies in time. The plans with the base in Sudan, it seems, have remained just plans. The new authorities of the Middle Eastern state understand this very well. And it is no coincidence that the rebel flag was raised over the Syrian embassy almost synchronously with the landing of Bashar al-Assad's plane in Moscow.


At present, we are witnessing a surprisingly peaceful outcome of the events around Tartus and Khmeimim. Yes, the ships have been taken out to sea to be on the safe side. But here, the Israeli Air Force, which is destroying the remains of the Syrian fleet, has caused more concern. The official justification is to keep terrorists out. Footage of a Russian Army convoy flying along the route, accompanied by the jeers of bandits, also inspires hope. Not a single bullet was fired at Russian armored vehicles, which means that the armed opposition has a special attitude towards our military presence.

What might the new masters of Damascus demand? First of all, non-interference in the struggle for power in Syria. Demands for military cooperation may be voiced. For example, help in suppressing Kurdish units in the north of the country. But this is an unrealistic scenario – Russia will not agree to this. First of all, for reputational reasons.

The second demand will be Russia's recognition of the new regime in Syria. In exchange for the inviolability of military bases, this does not seem like an excessive price. However, the Russians will no longer see their former freedom in the country. The times when the Russian Aerospace Forces were the rightful rulers of the skies over Syria are over. We should preserve what is left, and then we'll see where the curve leads. If we consider Mohammed al-Bashir as the interim leader, then it would be ridiculous to expect exclusively political demands in negotiations with him (if they take place at all). The Kremlin will be required to provide quite tangible bonuses. This could be either freely convertible currency or food. Tartus and Khmeimim in exchange for grain, for example. In Syria, citizens, to put it mildly, have long been eating their fill. And well-fed Syrians are Syrians loyal to the new government.

The main question of the whole story with the Syrian bases remains: to what extent can we trust the new authorities? The East is a delicate matter, and we know very well many cases when agreements were violated "for goodness sake." Including the latest agreement on reconciliation of the parties in Syria, in which Russian military and diplomats took the most direct part. And where are these agreements? The situation in the rebellious country is also complicated by the fact that the new authorities control the territory fragmentarily. Syria is occupied by America, Turkey and Israel. The status of Russian bases will inevitably have to be negotiated with these players as well. The more parties to the agreement, the greater the temptation to destroy it.

It is very difficult to take into account the interests of all participants. One thing is clear: no one will take Iran's interests into account in Syria in the near future. Tehran has lost much more than Russia, and its chances of restoring influence on Damascus are getting smaller. And Russia still has the opportunity to cling to Syria. Even if just barely, in the future this will allow it to project power in the region. The points of this projection have not yet been lost.
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  1. + 36
    16 December 2024 04: 00
    I feel sorry for the dead Russian soldiers, guys. Just like that, in vain, how many people were killed without finishing the job.
    1. +6
      16 December 2024 05: 44
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      without finishing the job.

      We can also add to the collection: "We were simply screwed!"
      1. -19
        16 December 2024 08: 57
        Quote: E. Fedorov
        Russian bases in Syria: forgive and forget?

        "Take your time" - from the film "Wedding in Malinovka".

        Quote from: FoBoss_VM
        How many people were killed without finishing the job.

        "A drowning man must save himself."

        Quote from Uncle Lee
        We can also add to the collection: "We were simply screwed!"

        If they had abandoned us, they would have already bombed us, but now they are afraid, and even the lawless Israel did not move against us.
    2. +4
      16 December 2024 09: 15
      Diplomats and intelligence officers have some serious work to do
      Under the current head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, everything will come down to another "Kalinka-Malinka".
    3. kvv
      +3
      16 December 2024 11: 14
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      I feel sorry for the dead Russian soldiers, guys. Just like that, in vain, how many people were killed without finishing the job.

      The geostrategist never finished anything, it is his principle to sit on the shore and wait for the enemy's corpse, that is why he is always deceived, but it is bad that our people die for all this, and not his relatives and friends
      1. -11
        16 December 2024 16: 00
        Don't worry, CIPSOT, he will definitely see things through to the end in Ukraine.
        1. -3
          16 December 2024 19: 25
          Yeah, haven't you noticed that there is a feverish search for a way to "make a deal" there? And for a long time already, even before the "grain deal". They have already attracted Batka, and Orban, and the Indian Mondi, and the Chinese Xi, and the "leaders of African countries" and there is no sense. Zelensky is not making concessions, and Europe supports him.
  2. + 23
    16 December 2024 04: 02
    Who will our military rely on in Syria? Specifically.
    The Americans, for example, rely on the Kurds.
    Turks on their proxies.
    Jews against Druze.
    Who among the locals is interested in the presence of Russia...the support and assistance of the local population is important to us...only then will the presence of our bases be justified.
    In the meantime, with the collapse of Assad, the situation with order there is too unstable. what
    1. + 14
      16 December 2024 06: 13
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Who will our military rely on in Syria? Specifically.

      If the Russian leadership worked with at least somewhat competent specialists who were responsible for their proposals, and not all those selected exclusively "for loyalty" and irresponsible, then it would be possible to rely on the Alawites. But since there was not the slightest analysis of intelligence data, nor any plan, but there was, and still is, an anti-selection, that's all, we have what we have. Once again.
      1. -1
        16 December 2024 07: 32
        If the change in the situation in Syria came as a surprise to you, it doesn't mean that someone didn't foresee it several years ago.
        for example
        In 2018-2019, the Central Bank of Syria sent 2 tons of euros and dollars in cash to Russia, equivalent to $250 million, in a total of 21 flights, writes FT
        1. +9
          16 December 2024 07: 42
          How do we know that this is not payment for wheat and weapons supplies? And the British scientists counted the flights - 21, not 19 or 22, meticulous, painstaking Financial Times. Accuracy is their credo lol
          1. +6
            16 December 2024 07: 45
            Maybe you are right, but the fact that today's events were prepared long ago is already clear.
            1. +6
              16 December 2024 10: 43
              Today's events were prepared long in advance

              Somehow it’s hard to believe that the Barmaleys’ muscles suddenly became strong, their shoulders straightened out... And if you also consider that many Syrian officials began to work for them, cursing Assad... it seems that this didn’t happen all of a sudden.
              1. +3
                16 December 2024 10: 53
                We must remember when those banned in Russia hid in Idlib. And in Russia they once again declared victory. That's when preparations for the current events began.
                1. +4
                  16 December 2024 10: 58
                  And in Russia they once again declared victory
                  And...they started the negotiation process, which was mentioned during the military operations. The process continued, Assad understood everything and simply gave up on everything until he waited for the end of the negotiations. The Barmaleys have nowhere to get money from for now. And the rent for the bases will suit them. And we will declare a great victory.
                  1. +4
                    16 December 2024 11: 00
                    And we will declare a great victory.
                    Well, something like that. Against this background, it's interesting. What will they declare a victory in the SVO?
                    1. +3
                      16 December 2024 11: 03
                      It seems that negotiations have been going on there for a long time, unofficial ones... they can't come to an agreement... Have you noticed that the phrase "complete denazification, of all of Ukraine... for example" has disappeared from the rhetoric of the hosts of various programs?
                      1. 0
                        16 December 2024 11: 10
                        It's kind of 50/50 here. Some urgently need negotiations, others sign the Berlin declaration on Ukraine.
        2. +3
          16 December 2024 08: 03
          Quote: Gardamir
          In 2018-2019, the Central Bank of Syria sent 2 tons of euros and dollars in cash to Russia, equivalent to $250 million, in a total of 21 flights, writes FT

          This is literally pennies, if you evaluate it in terms of the VKS's sorties to bomb ISIS.
          1. -1
            16 December 2024 08: 12
            You mix up your pockets. They take from one pocket but put it in another.
            1. +2
              16 December 2024 08: 35
              Quote: Gardamir
              You mix up your pockets. They take from one pocket but put it in another.

              If you consider this money as a withdrawal from the Syrian treasury, then it is pennies, not a withdrawal, and if you consider it as payment for the work of the Aerospace Forces, then it is also pennies.
              Quote: Gardamir
              but the fact that today's events were prepared long ago is already clear.
              That's exactly it, but not by the leadership of Syria, and certainly not by the leadership of Russia.
              1. -2
                16 December 2024 08: 59
                Are you pretending? VKS work is paid for by Russian taxpayers. Money from various deals goes into personal pockets.
                1. +2
                  16 December 2024 09: 08
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Are you pretending? VKS work is paid for by Russian taxpayers. Money from various deals goes into personal pockets.

                  Do you consider this money "foresight into the change of the situation in Syria" by the Russian leadership? If so, then oh...
                  1. 0
                    16 December 2024 09: 27
                    About money, this is just an example. And not a prediction of the situation. Some were preparing the invasion from Idlib, others did not object.
        3. -4
          16 December 2024 09: 07
          Quote: Gardamir
          If the change in the situation in Syria came as a surprise to you, it doesn't mean that someone didn't foresee it several years ago.
          for example
          In 2018-2019, the Central Bank of Syria sent money to Russia 2 tons of euro and dollars in cash equivalent $ 250 million, all was accomplished 21 flight, writes FT

          Some kind of crap, except maybe 1-dollar/euro bills. But even in this case, 21 flights is, to put it mildly, nonsense.
          Let's say there were 21 flights of 250 million each, 2 tons each - you can believe it.
          And for 100 kg of money - no one will send a separate flight, accompanying cargo - nothing more...
          1. -1
            16 December 2024 10: 18
            "50 million is one of the flights. And there are 21 flights in total. Is that clear?
        4. 0
          16 December 2024 10: 42
          Quote: Gardamir
          The Central Bank of Syria sent 2 tons of euros and dollars in cash to Russia, equivalent to $250 million, in a total of 21 flights

          Flight of what? 2 tons is not even a Gazelle van.. Flight 21, as I understand it, is an airline flight?
          Well, yes, Assad could have laid down some straw. They write that he bought 19 apartments in Moscow City for himself + his family.
          1. 0
            16 December 2024 12: 26
            By the way, it seems true - when I was in Moscow-City last year, I noticed the abundance of Syrian cafes and some shops in the passage across the river. Then I wondered why they flock here in Moscow?
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    2. +5
      16 December 2024 06: 42
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      In the meantime, with the collapse of Assad, the situation with order there is too unstable.

      And there could not be a stable, reliable situation in Syria. There has never been a single people in Syria, unlike Iran and Turkey. Syria, with its tribal society, has always been under someone. A hundred years ago, it was under the Ottoman Empire for a long time, so the Syrians had nothing to fight for, they have no concept of a Motherland.
      1. +5
        16 December 2024 08: 47
        Quote: carpenter
        And there could not be a stable, reliable situation in Syria.

        If they had cleaned out that remaining snake pit of Idlib and not gone for a peace agreement (a deal with the deceitful Erdogan), then the situation would have been much more reliable and stable.

        And who, excuse me, was the most active initiator of the "balance" of forces, multipolarity in Syria and peace talks in the Astana format? Who declared victory three times? And where is this victory now?
      2. +2
        16 December 2024 09: 23
        And what is the "difference"? Both Turkey and Iran are the same "hodgepodge". If we talk about Turkey, the division into Europe and Asia is very striking: in the West of the country lives the Turkified and Islamized population of the former Byzantium (descendants of Greeks, Armenians, Balkan Slavs, Jews), who would like to join the EU and advocate for continuing the course of Ataturk (by the way, a native of Greek Thessaloniki, outwardly a "typical Turk" - a light-eyed blond). In the center live the Turks themselves (they make up at most 20% of the entire population of the country), in the east - the Kurds, in the southeast - the Arabic-speaking relatives of the Syrians. And this crowd does not need any Europe, just as they do not need Ataturk. They have either the Ottoman Empire, or the Caliphate, or Kurdistan on their minds.
        In Iran, too, "everything is very complicated": there are Persians proper (about half of the population, on whom everything rests), there are Turkic-speaking citizens (who are sort of "Azerbaijanis"), but in essence they are an analogue of the Turkish Ottoman Turks (and there are about 35% of the population - the entire North and Northwest of Iran). In the West of the country there are many Kurds (who would also not be against joining a Free Kurdistan, potentially possible on the ruins of Syria, Iraq and Turkey), in the East and Southeast - the Baloch and Qashqai, whose relations with the Persians cannot be called harmonious...
      3. -1
        16 December 2024 10: 23
        Well, yes, and in Russia there is only one nation, as in Germany, the USA, and the same Britain. And in most countries of the world there are dozens of tribes and nationalities in each state.
        And in Turkey it's just funny. Who is Erdogan fighting then? Not the Kurds?
        And in Iran the president is not Persian, but Azerbaijani. How is that?
        1. 0
          16 December 2024 10: 30
          Quote: Vik Ganz
          And in Iran the president is not Persian, but Azerbaijani. How is that?

          It doesn't matter who the president is, Iran (Persia) is over 1000 years old, and Britain didn't even exist back then. And there were no other states in the Middle East.
      4. -1
        16 December 2024 10: 29
        What difference does it make what the situation is there if no one is involved in foreign policy in Russia. The situation in Abkhazia now. was in Armenia. in Ukraine.
        1. -2
          16 December 2024 11: 22
          I think the situation in the Kremlin is such that a purge is beginning (I hope), the same as the Ministry of Defense. True, little is written about this, and the information is contradictory. But a lot needs to be purged. I believe that almost 80 percent of those around the president own foreign passports, real estate and accounts in foreign banks. And you have to be unusually brave to remove "such" people from power. And you have to.
          1. +4
            16 December 2024 18: 53
            I believe that almost 80 percent of those around the president own foreign passports, real estate and accounts in foreign banks.

            The Tsar is good, the boyars are bad.
      5. +1
        16 December 2024 10: 48
        There has never been a single people in Syria.
        If the Arabs, Syrians, Kurds, are divided along religious lines, how can they be united?
        1. +1
          16 December 2024 10: 52
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          If the Arabs, Syrians, Kurds, are divided along religious lines, how can they be united?

          Of course, most Kurds profess Sunni Islam, and Shiism, Christianity, Alawism, and other faiths are also quite popular among Kurds. However, the most unique and distinctive faiths of the Kurds are considered to be Yazidism and Bahaism.
        2. +3
          16 December 2024 10: 58
          Here, everything depends on domestic politics. The Federation is home to a multinational and multi-confessional people. But in the Union, there lived a single Soviet people, even the Arkhangelsk Christians, Kazan Muslims and Kalmyk Buddhists, who did not share anything among themselves.
          1. +4
            16 December 2024 11: 00
            a single Soviet people lived in the Union
            That's the point... and now the expelled Russians from Russian territory are not particularly invited to return to Russian territory...
          2. +4
            16 December 2024 11: 04
            . And in the Union there lived a single Soviet people, even the Arkhangelsk Christians, Kazan Muslims and Kalmyk Buddhists did not divide anything among themselves.

            And they were immediately slapped on the hands and their tongues were cut short when they started chatting about their divine chosenness. And now they have dissolved it and are still touched by how they have built all sorts of prayer houses in the zones
            1. +4
              16 December 2024 11: 38
              Quote: Konnick
              And they were immediately slapped on the hands and their tongues were cut short when they started chatting about their divine chosenness. And now they have dissolved it and are still touched by how they have built all sorts of prayer houses in the zones

              I haven't even heard of diasporas in the USSR! And I've only seen mustachioed tangerine sellers at the market. And they didn't build any mosques (or churches).
              And now something unimaginable is happening.
    3. +4
      16 December 2024 08: 39
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Who will our military rely on in Syria? Specifically.

      Apparently, the author believes that it was those who were bombed on the distant approaches (6 years).
      1. -3
        16 December 2024 11: 09
        So what, Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO, and now these countries are in the same union. Vietnam was bombed by the USA, and now they are not friends, of course, but partners. And a whole series of examples. Maybe if they don't "become friends", then they can trade with them. After all, everyone wants to drink and eat.
        1. -1
          16 December 2024 11: 21
          Quote: Vik Ganz
          Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO, and now these countries are in one union. Vietnam was bombed by the USA

          The US actually dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Twice! On August 6 and 9, 1945. And now the Americans are the best friends of those Japanese. But personally, I wouldn't want to be friends like that!
    4. AAK
      -1
      16 December 2024 14: 26
      There were talks in the US about possible support for the Alawites in the same Latakia and Tartus with the creation of their territorial autonomy. The Americans, through an agreement with Erdogan, are inciting the Barmaleys and expelling our people from Khmeimim and Tartus, after which they themselves occupy these bases, provide a "roof" for the Alawites, and negotiate with the Turks about non-interference.
    5. 0
      16 December 2024 16: 03
      Frankly speaking, there are no objective reasons at all for us to continue to maintain military bases in Syria, and first of all, because there are no longer those political forces there that truly support us there.
    6. +1
      16 December 2024 19: 36
      Is that the point? Now these bases will be under constant threat of attack, under threat of demands to leave immediately. Now they will become an object of blackmail. Money, food, political concessions will be demanded from Russia not only by the "new Syrian authorities", but also by their Western masters. All this should have been thought about earlier. It was clear that this would happen after the liquidation of the PMC. This was openly discussed. If the PMC held Damascus and part of Syrian territory, then this would give legitimacy to Assad. The Syrian army could have been forgotten long ago, police units could have been created and that's it. The main force should have been the PMC and that's it.
    7. 0
      17 December 2024 16: 32
      Absolutely accurate definition.
      Who to rely on?
      All sorts of theorists and chatterboxes, like the Alawites, like we had to attract the Syrians to our side, are far from reality.
      The impoverished country collapsed from internal problems. Assad and company were unable to solve the economic and other problems of their country in the conditions of the civil war, although they managed to defeat ISIS with our and Iranian help.
      The only way to attract the Alawites and others was to take them under our full support, and under the wing of a powerful military group, and to completely control the Syrian government. That is, by occupying the country, like, for example, the GDR. Is this necessary? Is it possible?
      Now about the bases. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see on the map that all air and sea routes to the bases in Latakia either pass through the territory of non-brotherly states or are controlled by them. For some reason Iran didn't fight instead of Assad's Sadykov and didn't keep its bases.
      It also doesn’t take much intelligence to figure out that such bases are only possible on the territory of a friendly state entity.
      What the hell is clinging to a suitcase like this without a handle?
      The Arabs broke ties with the USSR (Sadat in Egypt) and nothing. It only became better (cheaper) for us.
      In Soviet times, people didn't vacation in Egypt, they just shoved money there. Where's the gratitude? There you go...
      Maybe Assad should be forced to formalize a divorce? Kurdish to the Kurds, Turkish to the Turks, and he himself, together with Latakia, should "join" the Russian Federation?
      But it turned out the way it did. It is not HTS and others who are strong, but the regime that has rotted.
  3. +7
    16 December 2024 05: 24
    In Syria, citizens, to put it mildly, have long been eating beyond their capacity. And well-fed Syrians are Syrians loyal to the new government.
    In other words, under Assad, the Syrians were not fed to the brim? They were made disloyal to Assad?
    1. +1
      16 December 2024 11: 29
      In other words, under Assad, the Syrians were not fed to the brim? They were made disloyal to Assad?
      1. 0
        16 December 2024 17: 39
        It just happened...it rained on Thursday, it passed laughing
  4. + 14
    16 December 2024 05: 43
    When you bet on a bankrupt regime, you shouldn't expect any other result. Assad had a huge credit of trust in 2020, but..... And here we can see many analogies with another figure. He also received a huge credit of trust from ordinary people. But instead, he is rapidly losing it: another devaluation of the national currency, complete silence of the "ostrich" regime on the country's critical problems. And much, much, much more. As they say, "like attracts like."
    1. + 10
      16 December 2024 06: 24
      He also received a great deal of trust from the common people.

      VTsIOM recently reported on the credit of trust: 78% laughing Assad probably had one like this before his rapid fall. wink
      1. +2
        16 December 2024 09: 02
        Assad had 95%. So there is still something to strive for. By the way, 2025 is coming - the Year of the Snake, previous such years were very indicative for our country, especially in the first half of the last century: 1917 - 1929 - 1941 - 1953.
        In general, this December is very similar to December 1916. "The year before" - as they say...
    2. +1
      16 December 2024 06: 45
      there are many similarities with another figure here. He also received a great deal of trust from the common people. But instead he is rapidly losing it

      I agree with you. hi
      Power is such a thing...you get hooked like on a needle...and getting off it is very painful. smile
      1. -1
        16 December 2024 10: 30
        Therefore, you need to sit at least on a bench. Yes
        1. +1
          16 December 2024 11: 15
          Lyokha apparently has experience sitting on pins and needles... when he was in power... laughing
    3. +2
      16 December 2024 10: 29
      Well, okay, then keep quiet Yes Well, the other day, there will be a broadcast about how spaceships furrow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater. laughing
    4. +1
      16 December 2024 19: 39
      For the "activist" you are writing about, the main thing is not "a vote of confidence from the common people", but the support of "oligarch friends" and the personal loyalty of accomplices.
  5. + 15
    16 December 2024 05: 50
    The gist of the article is that Iran has lost us even more in Syria, which means things aren't so bad for Russia.
    There is just one small nuance: Iran is our only "semi-ally" that has provided us with assistance in Ukraine. And our other allies are Belarus and the DPRK.
    But the various "Brix-Shmiks", the various "virtual security clubs" didn't even say a word.
    1. -1
      16 December 2024 09: 29
      Quote: Vladimir M
      here are different "brixes-shmixes"

      By the way, at BRICS Assad had the option to meet with Erdogan and discuss it.
      1. +6
        16 December 2024 09: 34
        The Turk does what he thinks is right.
        And in general we can’t stop him (we don’t want to).
        He has us firmly by the balls.
        1. 0
          17 December 2024 03: 16
          The situation is not so bad. At least there is hope that in this case there are at least eggs there.
    2. +6
      16 December 2024 11: 18
      The essence of the article is that Iran has lost us even more in Syria

      Yeah, like, it's good that our veranda burned down, and our neighbor's half of the house... Yes
  6. + 20
    16 December 2024 06: 16
    It's scary to watch how in a few hours the "explainers" changed their tune in the official media. He was the "banner of the fight against terrorism" - and became simply the "ineffective" Assad.
    Every cloud has a silver lining - the Syrian "Don Quixote" is over. It would be better to transfer the Syrian corps to the Kursk region, and not to Africa. If Gazprom has "strategic" interests there, then let it buy up all sorts of Scandinavians and Colombians with its own money and fight the Tuaregs with mercenaries.
    1. -1
      16 December 2024 18: 58
      It’s scary to watch how in just a few hours the “explainers” in the official media have changed their tune.

      You haven't seen the Syrian media yet.
  7. -3
    16 December 2024 06: 23
    There will be a Qatar-Syria-Türkiye-EU gas pipeline. Against this background, the loss of the Tartus and Khmeimim naval bases already looks like a side effect. The main thing is to get out of Syria without losses.
    1. +3
      16 December 2024 09: 04
      There will be an eternal war of all against all, not a gas pipeline. Well, and let's not forget that Armageddon is very close to Damascus. That's what will happen there.
      1. -3
        16 December 2024 19: 42
        One does not interfere with the other. Let them fight each other. But as soon as they touch the gas pipeline, they will immediately receive a response and a cut in funding.
    2. +2
      16 December 2024 09: 58
      Quote: severok1979
      There will be a Qatar-Syria-Türkiye-EU gas pipeline.

      will not.
      1. It is not needed by the Americans selling LNG to the EU.
      2. The Saudis never gave permission for it... yes, besides Syria there are others who have banned it...
      3. The gas pipeline will be approximately 3 thousand km, and with a distance of more than 2 thousand km, the price of deliveries via pipeline begins to approach the price of LNG by tanker.
      4. Turkey already has the Turkish Stream gas pipeline, and even if they make another one, it will lead to a loss of profit from the already expensive Qatari one... and the Turks will obviously cut the price quite a bit in this scenario in order to make money on resale...
      Bottom line: the capital needs profit, and the "Qatari" gas pipeline is so-so profitable, with unclear prospects... even if it is built...
      P.S. For some reason, they don’t really talk about the fact that Assad was negotiating with Iran on the construction of a gas pipeline from them to the EU.
  8. 0
    16 December 2024 06: 31
    But here the Israeli Air Force, destroying the remains of the Syrian fleet, caused more concern. The official justification was to prevent terrorists from getting it.

    To be precise, we can say - “so that thousands of tons of weapons do not end up in Ukraine”.
  9. +5
    16 December 2024 06: 41
    and yet, if only... If our intelligence services had analytical brains, they would have reported long ago to the Kremlin analytical brains that Assad as a statesman is very weak and unpredictable with signs of an adventurer and everything in Syria can change very quickly. There was enough time to both reconnoiter and understand analytically. It is possible that this is what was reported to the Kremlin. But if during the USSR under Brezhnev in the Kremlin in a similar situation, having received such analytical reports from intelligence services, both the Central Committee and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would have screwed up so much, then how would the then Ministry of Defense and the officer corps have felt then. As I understand it, now instead of the collegial Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, such analytical reports from intelligence services are received by the collegial Security Council, where Shoigu, Medvedev and company play the leading roles??? Well, well. The question is the same: how should the Russian military feel now, seeing that neither the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    neither the Security Council nor even higher up at the very top, no one will get a slap on the wrist for this and everyone sits in their chairs
    1. +4
      16 December 2024 07: 23
      You are wrong to criticize analytical brains. They thought that they could make a good amount of money by leaking Syria.
    2. +1
      16 December 2024 09: 01
      If only our intelligence agencies had analytical brains

      How do you know what the intelligence service's analytical brains reported? The question is: did the top brass listen to VVP himself? Yes, and the factor of unpredictability of upcoming events and force majeure is quite present.
    3. -8
      16 December 2024 09: 32
      Quote: north 2
      If our intelligence services had analytical brains, they would...

      Both analysts and intelligence officers have brains that work normally.

      The result of their work:
      - saved Assad;
      - naval exercises conducted near Syria on the eve of these events;
      - none of the proxy armed formations dared to attack our bases.

      If you can do more, then what are you doing here?
    4. -5
      16 December 2024 10: 32
      If our intelligence services had analytical brains, they would have long ago reported to the Kremlin’s analytical brains that Assad, as a statesman, is very weak and unpredictable with signs of an adventurer and everything in Syria can change very quickly.


      And may I ask what achievements you have in analyzing geopolitical processes? It is very easy now to draw conclusions based on events that have already happened, even those who in 2015 predicted Assad's handout and his escape to Russia, clearly would not have put a ruble on their forecast.
  10. 0
    16 December 2024 06: 45
    All the dirty work was done by the Russian Armed Forces and Iranian proxies. And they gave the victories to Assad. There is another point here. Our military needs to work with the local population. It does not matter where they are, in the Middle East or Africa.
    1. 0
      16 December 2024 12: 11
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      All the dirty work was done by the Russian Armed Forces and Iranian proxies.

      The Wagner PMC did all the dirty work for Russian contract soldiers.
    2. 0
      16 December 2024 19: 45
      The local population does not demand work with them, but American dollars. The more, the better the attitude of the local population.
  11. +3
    16 December 2024 06: 47
    Has the Kremlin lost again?
    1. +2
      16 December 2024 10: 33
      Not again, but again. Yes "" "" ""
    2. +4
      16 December 2024 11: 20
      And again on penalties, without extra time.
    3. 2al
      +4
      16 December 2024 12: 29
      Considering that Israel won in Syria dry, it did not lose, but rather handed over “Syria on a silver platter.”
    4. +1
      17 December 2024 03: 17
      We were simply deceived again. Please be understanding.
  12. +4
    16 December 2024 07: 53
    At one time, both the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and the Socialist Revolutionaries (SRs) were terrorist organizations....
    And in October 1917, the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) suddenly became the party of power in Russia...
    1. +4
      16 December 2024 11: 27
      At one time, both the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and the Socialist Revolutionaries were terrorist organizations....

      And the entire democratic, civilized world, since 1917, began to fight terrorists until it defeated this terrorist state in 1991. Allowing the new top of the renewed state to write near the airplane... and much more... laughing
  13. +5
    16 December 2024 08: 12
    What was the original purpose of our stay in Syria?
    Just a place where we showed that we can do something?
    "Stroytransgaz" rules!
    1. +7
      16 December 2024 09: 02
      Quote: 75Sergey
      What was the original purpose of our stay in Syria?

      The official one is the destruction of terrorists at distant approaches.
      And it turned out so effectively that the opposition flag is now raised over the embassy in Moscow!
    2. +4
      16 December 2024 09: 06
      Well, initially it sounded like help at Assad's request. True, before that, the Russian president met with Obama and the planes took off the next day. So most likely, as always, they deceived.
    3. +1
      16 December 2024 09: 09
      I am becoming increasingly convinced that the Kremlin's main goal was to invert Vanga's prediction: "The time for change in Russia has not yet come - Syria has not fallen." Well, no matter how they twist and turn, you can't escape Fate. Like in that Eastern fairy tale about a merchant and Death, in which he, having learned that he was soon to die, decided to escape from Death to a neighboring city, but She was waiting for him there.
      1. 0
        16 December 2024 19: 48
        Yeah, but for some reason all these prophecies and predictions appear after the events that have taken place.
    4. -2
      16 December 2024 09: 12
      Quote: 75Sergey
      What was the original purpose of our stay in Syria?
      Just a place where we showed that we can do something?
      "Stroytransgaz" rules!

      Well, Qatar sells gas via LNG and doesn’t give a damn about that gas pipeline - so that it doesn’t turn out like with the joint venture...
    5. 2al
      -2
      16 December 2024 12: 26
      Rosneft has made a major investment in the Homs oil refinery.
  14. +6
    16 December 2024 08: 15
    A day earlier, they were either militants or terrorists. There is nothing reprehensible about this.
    Yes indeed, there is nothing reprehensible. 2014, there was a junta in one country, then a government, then a government again, and then a junta again... and the SVO...
  15. +4
    16 December 2024 09: 27
    Russian bases in Syria: forgive and forget?
    I read both the author's article and the comments to it.
    What can I say? Both the author and the commentators (the majority) reason logically, weigh the strengths and weaknesses of possible solutions.
    But do those in power here follow logic, think about the consequences, for example, what will happen in a few years?
    They live in the moment, trying to prove to the Americans, the Chinese (you can continue the list yourself) that we have outplayed everyone again, a cunning plan is in action, we just need to wait and be patient (though it is ordinary Russian Ivans who must be patient and wait).
    To summarize: do not try to find any logic in the actions; anyone who does not agree is a foreign agent.
    1. -4
      16 December 2024 10: 03
      There is always logic, it just may be "non-trivial". Syria is a kind of "navel of the Earth", where, by the way, are two of the oldest inhabited cities on the planet - Aleppo and Damascus, which are about 8000 years old. In fact, there, what the Arabs call "Sham" (Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq), the entire modern civilization was born. It should also end there with the transition to a new stage. Since Russia throughout its history has played and plays the role of a global balancer, not allowing the world to go haywire, the Kremlin tried to "freeze" the situation, to delay the onset of the "brave new world". But, apparently, even they cannot write against the Wind of History. In general, we are all on the threshold of a "Grand commotion", after which events will be divided into BEFORE and AFTER.
      And something tells me that previous historical triggers like the assassination of Ferdinand in June 1914 and the Anschluss of Austria in 1938 will be child's play in a sandbox compared to WHAT awaits us now. Therefore, since we have not been able to hold the situation for 12 years, we must urgently shovel aside, so as not to end up the main character at "someone else's wedding". And there, things will not be limited to nuclear strikes - the map of the Middle East will completely change, and there will be grandiose changes in the rest of the world.
    2. +5
      16 December 2024 11: 11
      that we have outplayed everyone again, a cunning plan is in action, we just need to wait and be patient (though it is ordinary Russian Ivans who must be patient and wait).
      And after some time, they tell the people: We were deceived again... smile
  16. -6
    16 December 2024 09: 55
    Is there grain in Russia? Well, let's buy the "good attitude" of the Syrian population with food.
    Everything else is secondary.
    1. -1
      16 December 2024 13: 49
      By the way, Zelensky is already promising to "feed Syria")
  17. +7
    16 December 2024 10: 25
    "...and then we'll see where the curve leads."
    The whole essence of our "top brass" for the last 30 years. That's why we have what we have in Syria.
    "In Syria, citizens, to put it mildly, have long been eating beyond their capacity."
    If the Author is from the same planet of pink ponies as "our" government, then I will reveal to him the "great" secret that in the Federation itself, many of its citizens have the same thing, and despite the fact that the climate here is harsher than Syria's, but here the government does not want to help them with "grain" for free, yeah.
  18. +8
    16 December 2024 10: 28
    In Syria, citizens, to put it mildly, have long been eating beyond their capacity. And well-fed Syrians are Syrians loyal to the new government.


    It's just amazing, even funny. Yesterday Staver wrote that Assad fought with the Syrian people who in turn did not like Assad, today another author writes that under Assad the people did not have enough to eat, the question is where were you all a year or two ago, not to mention 2015-2016?
    1. +6
      16 December 2024 10: 37
      Quote: Oldrover
      the question is where were you all just two years ago, not to mention 2015-2016

      And it's like with Timurka Ivanov and others)
      All his buddies, ministers, deputies and other deputies were drinking and having fun with him in his palaces and yachts, singing hosannas to him. And as soon as they came for him, everyone was terribly surprised - where did he get all this from? Oh-oh-oh, so he suddenly turned out to be a scoundrel scoundrel!
      An entire investigation was conducted to show that he doesn’t even have enough income to maintain these palaces, let alone buy them. This all came to light completely unexpectedly.
      1. +5
        16 December 2024 11: 08
        everyone was immediately terribly surprised - where did he get all this from?
        What do you mean from where? Of course they planted it. laughing
        1. +2
          16 December 2024 12: 25
          Quote: kor1vet1974
          What do you mean from where? Of course they planted it.
          Reply
          Quote

          "They planted it, enemies." (c) smile
  19. +1
    16 December 2024 10: 32
    Silly fortune-telling. The Anglo-Saxons who rule there (even if secretly) will definitely achieve expulsion, and will try to do it with the greatest losses for us.
  20. + 11
    16 December 2024 10: 34
    In my uninitiated opinion, we are simply wasting time, as usual, counting on yet another deal and half measures, so beloved by the leader of the nation.
    Now, while there is such an opportunity, while the “opposition” (and in fact the militants whom we have been bombing for 10 years) are engaged in the massacre of those who are undesirable and the expropriation of property, we must withdraw our people and very expensive equipment from the territories that have been lost to us.
    Because after the ISIS members who have settled down sort out their internal affairs, they will become interested in those who bombed them. And most likely, Russia's best friends Erdogan and Trump will throw them a few quid for this interest.
    And then, God willing, we can simply save people by abandoning/destroying planes, air defense systems, and so on, because they won’t let us take all of this out.
    Since 2014, not a single hope of our leader of the nation for his deals has worked, it is strange to assume that now it will be different. He is like a bad Indian, constantly stepping on the same rake.
    It's clear that the HPP adherents will now shove it into my Panama hat, but...
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  22. +2
    16 December 2024 11: 23
    The fallen Russians, Russian Heroic fighters! Their feat is immortal. A deep bow to the parents of these men. As for the political decision to get involved, our "geostrategists" have once again proven that they have the ability to choose the most toxic and negligent politician to help. Either Yanukovych, or Medvedchuk, or Assad.
  23. 0
    16 December 2024 11: 26
    Unlike Russian bases, American bases abroad are extremely difficult to remove. What is the reason? The presence of the dollar and the lack of morality. Americans primarily use dollars, which everyone (from individuals to states) still takes from them, as a virtually reliable donkey loaded with gold. As long as the cult of profit exists in the world, there will always be someone to buy. And the lack of morality allows Americans to physically destroy anyone they cannot buy. So we should not fuss with bases, but turn the dollar into what it really is - shredded paper.
  24. +3
    16 December 2024 11: 52
    Syria is important for working with Africa. This is clear - the question is, why do we need to work with Africa? If our entire African adventure will, for the most part, rely on one thin logistics corridor running through a divided country on the brink of anarchy with some random people in power de facto, then it is time to ask the question that our current vulnerability and embarrassment can grow into even greater vulnerability and embarrassment. When, because of this point of pressure, we can be "asked" to leave Africa, if not de jure, then de facto.

    Should we cling to Syria? Probably we should - since a lot of effort and resources have been poured in so that it would not be in vain. But should we look at this question as a thing in itself or a certain principle? I think not.
    Our bases in Syria are not a goal - they are a means. Called to serve certain goals. If we can ensure the stable position of our facilities in this unstable system so that they do not become some kind of "golden hectares" through which we will be pumped and mowed, then it is worth the effort. If the risks are high and the situation is vulnerable and in the long term everything will remain unchanged or worsen - then, probably, we should start methodically adjusting our entire regional policy right now. Because sometimes it is better to leave quietly before you are carried out.
    We need to understand this - a protracted SVO, together with heating up regional conflicts, will force us to take a couple of steps back so that we can advance in the directions that are key to us. We can bypass some of this, and some is most likely inevitable.
  25. 2al
    0
    16 December 2024 12: 24
    Currently, the key force in Syria is the terrorists from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, which is banned in Russia.

    Isn't it funny? With Israel taking out everything and everyone in Syria, pocketing the Druze and marching like a heavy chariot to Damascus? "Suddenly" becoming a defender against the democracy of HTS, including for the Palestinian camps in Syria and even for some Shiites? Who thinks that Israel will refuse to wipe the Alawites off Syrian soil in order to forever exclude their possibility of revenge in Syria?
  26. + 14
    16 December 2024 13: 04
    If the accession had not happened in 2014, the rules in the Black Sea would be completely different now

    What?
    Our ships would have been driven out of Sevastopol and would have been stationed in Novorossiysk?
    And now, isn't it so? All the ships are hidden in Novorossiysk and are firing missiles from a long distance (they could just as easily put a launch container on a mountain) there is no control over the Black Sea, we just need to survive.
    Even a regional player can push aside the Kremlin's interests on the black continent

    That's exactly what's interesting there for the Kremlin and its cronies, all sorts of Sechins, Kovalchuks and Rotenbergs, but not for Russia. We have a sea of ​​resources in our country (an unplowed field).
    And Russia still has the opportunity to gain a foothold in Syria.

    Why? Can someone with facts, on points 1,2,3,4... list our dividends from almost ten years of presence in Syria?
    Well, besides the tens of billions of dollars spent, hundreds of our people killed, and Russia’s trampled reputation as a powerful ally.
  27. -4
    16 December 2024 14: 10
    Let's stop in our "analytical calculations" and "rehashes" from other people's "information voices" regarding Russian bases in Syria... It is clear that each of us is a "strategist and politician", with a capital letter, and in military and analytical matters, we have no equal in the world... And, nevertheless, let's "slow down" in assessing the fate of our bases... For now, all parties to the Syrian conflict are comfortable and calm with their presence... There are certain agreements, in the past, with the new "masters of life," in Syria, when they were still, for the most part, "barmaleys", regarding these bases... Let's wait and not run "ahead of the information locomotive"... We need to see... True, while we watch and wait for truthful information from the Russian Ministry of Defense or the Kremlin, all the "hype" and noise around this issue will "subside" and domestic "information gurus" will have nothing to write about and nothing to earn on "modest" life...
  28. +2
    16 December 2024 15: 28
    The times of Prince Gorchakov can no longer be returned! Our modern diplomacy carries out the instructions of President VVP, and Russia's foreign policy is NOT PRAGMATIC!!! How many lives of our people and resources are we losing? Let's finally be pragmatic and think first of all about the interests of OUR country, and not about how to accept another fugitive. We are in a state of war with the entire West and we need to save resources and direct them first of all to this.
  29. +2
    16 December 2024 18: 40
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Who will our military rely on in Syria? Specifically.

    If the Russian leadership worked with at least somewhat competent specialists who were responsible for their proposals, and not all those selected exclusively "for loyalty" and irresponsible, then it would be possible to rely on the Alawites. But since there was not the slightest analysis of intelligence data, nor any plan, but there was, and still is, an anti-selection, that's all, we have what we have. Once again.

    And were there any incidents in Russian history when we won something under the bourgeoisie?
  30. 0
    16 December 2024 18: 43
    Quote from nordscout
    Let's stop in our "analytical calculations" and "rehashes" from other "information voices" regarding Russian bases in Syria... It is clear that each of us is a "strategist and politician", with a capital letter, and in military and analytical matters, we have no equal in the world... And, nevertheless, let's "slow down" in assessing the fate of our bases... For now, all parties to the Syrian conflict are comfortable and calm with their presence...

    They are right in one thing: the thoughts of the sovereign are dark and guessing is a thankless task. But if you paraphrase one famous phrase, it will turn out: "If you want to be a patriot - be one"
    1. 0
      17 December 2024 14: 07
      Dear Etwas! And I am not talking about "fortune telling", but about the Russian genetically-conditioned habit of "running ahead of the locomotive" in matters of information "noise", on any issue, starting from the prospects for the parsley harvest, to the use of nuclear weapons... I am simply talking about being careful in relation to and using any information, especially "foreign" information, in the "national economy" of one's own brains, i.e. not rushing to conclusions and assessments... And why did they "screw in" the thesis about patriots?
  31. 0
    16 December 2024 18: 47
    Quote from vldmrom
    Let's finally be pragmatic and think first of all about the interests of OUR country, and not about how to accept the next fugitive.

    Tell me, who are you addressing when you say "Let's do it already"?
  32. +1
    16 December 2024 18: 49
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    Syria is important for working with Africa. This is clear - the question is, why do we need to work with Africa? If our entire African adventure will, for the most part, rely on one thin logistics corridor running through a divided country on the brink of anarchy with some random people in power de facto, then it is time to ask the question that our current vulnerability and embarrassment can grow into even greater vulnerability and embarrassment. When, because of this point of pressure, we can be "asked" to leave Africa, if not de jure, then de facto.

    That's right. But you haven't fully covered the topic. Who needs Africa?
  33. 0
    16 December 2024 20: 29
    There are options, we need to make our bases in Syria following the example of the US base in Cuba. Guantanamo is a great example
  34. +1
    16 December 2024 20: 35
    What is happening reminds me of the theatre of the absurd.
    Everyone knows that the US/UK are preparing a war to destroy Russia and its people at the hands of NATO countries and Japan and are probably already ready for it.
    For the fifth month now we have had a strategic NATO bridgehead on our territory, 40 km from the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, and we have no way of eliminating it or driving the enemy out of our territory.
    This bridgehead is intended for the capture of a nuclear power plant by superior NATO forces under the flag of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and nuclear blackmail of Russia at the very beginning of the war with us, NATO and Japan.
    Instead of gathering all the necessary forces and urgently eliminating it, the Commander-in-Chief declares the Donetsk direction to be a priority, and the General Staff sends its main forces there.
    The Commander-in-Chief's recent words: "Of course, from a military point of view, no matter who you talk to, everyone - both our and foreign experts - believes that in Kursk this is an adventure. That's what they call it - "the Kursk adventure". This is obvious. Because there is no sense in what the Kiev regime is doing in the border regions."
    Then the “eternally deceived” Commander-in-Chief will pretend that those with whom he spoke have again misinformed him.
    Nowadays in Russia, stupidity is a convenient disguise for betrayal.
    The same goes for Syria, which appeared for us in 2015, when the colonial power needed to distract our attention from the bloody events in Ukraine after the betrayal of pro-Russian forces and its surrender to the Americans in exchange for Crimea in 2014.
    Since then, this “dummy” has been faithfully serving Russia’s enemies, diverting our attention and military forces to “geopolitical tasks.”
    We cannot save the country, ourselves and our children until we free it from colonial dependence.
    1. -3
      17 December 2024 19: 04
      Dear Alexey Davydov! Stupidity, in Russia - this is not a disguise for betrayal, but one of the "attributes" of the Russian state-parochial management, understanding of reality... Back in the distant 30th century, Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin very well "brought out" in his immortal works, all THIS... So, simply, there is a "continuation of the relay race"... Only I.V. Stalin found an effective "cure" for the penetration of this "fad" into the management of the State, politics, economics, finance, education and culture at almost all levels. Order in everything and everyone "was held" on the shoulders of true talents, natural-born people, devoted to the cause, the revolution, communist ideals... With his death (I.V. Stalin), his "medicine" was recognized as excessively toxic, quite allegorical and not suitable for "reception" by the nascent "Soviet" boyars and the nomenklatura bureaucracy of all stripes and colors that had joined it... And then it got worse. The times have begun, which our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will probably remember with regret, as the times of betrayal and shame, committed by a huge nation, believing in American promises and European "values" and having destroyed a huge socially oriented great Country... And Stalin's "medicine": personal modesty, devotion to the State, Flag and Party, responsibility, self-discipline, professionalism in one's business... Of course, such a "medicine" did not work on everyone and everything, and for the especially "steadfast" or those who fundamentally refused "treatment" and socialist ideology and its principles, there was - the harsh Law, and its inevitability... At the present moment, it is difficult and hard for the Supreme, surrounded by the new boyars and nomenklatura, who have been "earning their bread" for more than XNUMX years, waiting for the complete and final victory of capitalism in Russia, true, as they say, capitalism, but with a Gagarin smile....
      1. 0
        17 December 2024 20: 01
        At the moment, the Supreme is having a hard time being surrounded by the new boyars and nomenklatura, who have been “earning their bread” for more than 30 years.

        Why do you think that the Supreme One has a hard time with them and that he is different?
        1. 0
          17 December 2024 20: 39
          Mr. Davydov, if briefly and to the point: ".... The magpie brought it on its tail..." A little longer - a certain analysis of his "period" of rule and those real positive changes in the life of Russia, though with its own costs... I am very sorry that you have not managed to analyze the period of the "rule" of the Supreme and those positive changes in the life of Russia... Start, at least now....
          1. -1
            17 December 2024 21: 39
            Positive changes after the destructive period of Yeltsin were measured and controlled. You can't command the people of a nuclear state: "Die!" They won't listen even to the President and will reach for nuclear weapons.
            He can only be killed, he can only be killed in war, and he still has to be capable of war.
            That is why Russia was raised, but only to the extent that it became an EQUAL partner for Ukraine in the war. For this, an army was needed, albeit a castrated one, and the same castrated production.
            Every war is a construction that the Anglo-Saxons meticulously calculate.
          2. -1
            17 December 2024 22: 00
            The Anglo-Saxons needed to destroy both peoples so that this would be done as much as possible with their own hands, so that the war would be long enough to ignite a war in Europe and draw NATO countries into it, so that before its death Russia would significantly weaken them for their subsequent enslavement by the Anglo-Saxons.
            For this plan they needed Russia to be strong enough, but not revived.
            1. +2
              19 December 2024 10: 38
              And what kind of terrible vinaigrette is in your head? :-)) The US elite needs all the capital from the EU to move to the US... The war between the Russian Federation and Kiev, the absurd SVO, the explosions of SP-1 and SP-2 - these are only tools for causing an economic crisis in the EU and the flow of European capital to the US
              1. -1
                19 December 2024 11: 24
                They need our resources and our territory for expansion in Asia and the subjugation of China.
                In addition, they need to destroy our people, who have already shown them many times that they can crush their plans to “rise from their knees.”
                The revolver is already pointed at our head. Do you think it's just for show?
                Or will they pull the trigger after all?
              2. -1
                19 December 2024 11: 31
                these are just tools to cause an economic crisis in the EU and the flow of European capital to the US

                No one is stopping them from realizing their main plan and making money along the way.
          3. 0
            18 December 2024 13: 51
            Well, and about Putin himself.
            Maybe he tried to do something useful "to clear his conscience", but the problem is that he didn't save the country with this, he ruined it.
            He was hanging out in plain sight, showing that “everything is under control” and allowing enemies to use this cover to prepare the destruction of Russia.
            Without him, we would have long ago developed forces that would have saved the country.
            It turns out that he turned out to be a convenient, deliberate "screen" for the enemy.
            What is this if not betrayal?
            1. 0
              19 December 2024 10: 34
              What are you writing? Today our president will prove to everyone that this is not true at all and the whole world will listen to his words with great patience.
              1. -1
                19 December 2024 12: 10
                Today our president will prove to everyone that this is not true at all.

                "Will tell" - you wanted to say? They prove it by the results of their cases.
  35. -1
    17 December 2024 00: 34
    It is surprising that without having all the information, using only open sources, the journalist reasons categorically, gives an assessment. And how is he different from the armchair experts? Nothing. I would like to hear what they said in Russia about Kutuzov who surrendered Moscow, about Lenin about the Brest Peace, about Peter the Great about the failed Prut campaign. They also gave categorical assessments, talked about Russia's reputational losses... In short, chattering is not making decisions...
  36. 0
    17 December 2024 06: 50
    Well, Russian military bases cannot be in a country where the government is hostile to Russia, they cannot!
    1. 0
      17 December 2024 20: 54
      Dear Oleg Bagayev! A strong, pragmatic and smart state can afford the "luxury" of being on a territory, in the form of military bases, where the leadership of those territories is hostile to this strong state... The USA has more than 900 military bases around the world, 69% of the countries where they are located are hostile, represented by the leadership of these countries, to the USA... And, it seems like nothing, these bases exist, in some places they are even expanding, despite the protests of the leadership of those countries and the population... The main thing is to competently, systematically (24/7), purposefully and PROFESSIONALLY work with the leadership, population groups and the population in general... And everything will be "in chocolate"... But for us, with this, things have not worked out somehow, since the late 80s.... Then, in Russia, a period of "indifference" and primary accumulation of capital began... Was it before that...
      1. 0
        18 December 2024 18: 33
        "69% of the states where they are located are hostile, in the person of the leadership of these states, to the United States..."
        What kind of nonsense are you talking!?
  37. +2
    19 December 2024 10: 32
    The Russian Federation is of no interest to anyone in the world, since, based on three years of experience, the SVO no longer has serious military power, which is why we have lost our positions in Syria, Transcaucasia, and Central Asia.
  38. 0
    20 December 2024 06: 24
    It seems to me that we should not interfere in Africa and other bandustans, but first we need to restore order in our own country.
  39. 0
    21 December 2024 11: 58
    Quote from nordscout
    Dear Etwas! I am not talking about "fortune telling", but about the Russian genetically conditioned habit of "running ahead of the locomotive" in matters of information "noise", on any issue, from the prospects for the parsley harvest to the use of nuclear weapons.

    Read what the imperial newspapers wrote during the First World War. Just at the time of the birth of imperialism in Russia and what Lenin wrote at the same time. who headed the RSDLPb, where the latter, and he is Russian with a small admixture of Germans, you found a "genetically conditioned habit of "running ahead of the locomotive" in matters of information "noise". You can give an example, but no need to talk about the world revolution. So, this is not a Russian, but a bourgeois manner of informing. Trump also talks a lot and also will not do everything from what has been said, and will do many things in spite of his promises, these are words, they are worth nothing to the bourgeoisie, you can also talk. You have confused nationality with class.
  40. 0
    23 December 2024 22: 59
    Without the Black Sea Straits, bases in Syria are worthless.
    We need to move (???) gradually, having good communications with the rear (meaning good supply routes).
    Without supplies, any base is a hostage to circumstances and losses.