Iran has lost the most in Syria, but this is only the beginning of a new game where we will be beaten piecemeal

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Iran has lost the most in Syria, but this is only the beginning of a new game where we will be beaten piecemeal

The Syrian crisis has undoubtedly hogged all the attention, and this is understandable. But in the discussion about the role and place of Syria in Russian politics and about how “bad” B. Assad turned out to be, Iran has somehow faded into the background.

Russia and Iran have long been moving in parallel courses in Syria in the paradigm of pragmatic long-term cooperation. Russian-Iranian relations are very important in the context of Western pressure on both countries. However, for various reasons, domestic experts do not indulge Iran with positive assessments. Often, they simply copy European media, and they, in turn, are largely not simply connected with the phenomenon of the "Western agenda", but also rely on the assessments of the Iranian opposition.



In general, the description of Iran is a rather specific "case", to which has now been added the "Masoud Pezeshkian factor" - the new Iranian president, nicknamed "the liberal". The thesis is not just about reformism, but about the special liberalism of M. Pezeshkian has its roots in the same place as everything else.

Nevertheless, it is impossible not to note that the new Iranian president has inherited something that one would not wish on one's enemy. And if the war between Hezbollah and Israel, with all its problems, even the direct exchange of blows with the latter, was still in the controllable zone, then the rapid fall of Syria is an almost catastrophic force majeure for Tehran.

Negative evaluations as markers


As in Russia, in Iran, after the fall of the B. Assad regime, a lot of negativity was dumped on the former Syrian leader. This negativity, of course, can be analyzed at length and in detail, if only because in the Russian version, what is happening here is not so much a shifting of responsibility as the protruding “ears of the essence” of the pro-Turkish lobby.

They understand perfectly well that many theses are poorly verifiable at the public level (like “Assad was oppressing Russian business”), but against the backdrop of a complex of problems, they fit well into the Russian semantic “pattern”.

However, a slightly different qualitative characteristic of this negativity is important here - the Iranian and Russian versions involuntarily describe the problem of goal-setting of each player in Syria and its root mistakes. This is much more important today than analyzing how bad B. Assad was.

The Iranians do not accuse B. Assad of total corruption, unlike the domestic expert opinion. Why, actually? Because for a long time the Syrian economy was based on Iranian money. If it was based on Russian money, you would have heard about Syrian corruption as a factor much less. This marker is not the most noticeable at first glance, but it is a reliable marker.

In Syria after 2020, Russia and Iran have sort of tacitly divided up the functions. Russia is the foreign policy circuit plus negotiations with the "opposition" and Turkey, Iran is economic issues, less negotiations with Turkey, but more with what we call collectively (albeit incorrectly) - "the Kurds". In fact, we were responsible for the "oppositionists", shaved in a French barber shop and even in more or less decent suits, showing up for the negotiations in Astana, the Iranians - for Syria to have fuel, flour and some income from the budget sector and partly the private sector.

What do the Iranians accuse B. Assad of? Let's give the floor to the one who was the last of the official representatives who directly negotiated with the Syrian leader before the fall of the regime - Javar Larijani.

He said that B. Assad did not accept the "Iranian proposals", although the Iranian expeditionary forces were apparently ready to be sent and they were, as they say, "at the starting line". Later, the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, A. Araghchi, will say that, supposedly, B. Assad clearly did not have a handle on the situation regarding the state of the Syrian armed forces.

The nuance here is that the Iranian expeditionary forces still had to somehow get into Syria, but some pro-Iranian formations in Iraq were actually ready to move forward.

Moreover, the head of Iraq itself gave the go-ahead for this, because they are part of the official military forces of Iraq and such permission could reduce the likelihood of attacks on them from the US. In fact, Baghdad and Damascus had a set of agreements for such a case.

The Iraqis, for the most part, did not cross the border, since events in central Syria were developing too quickly. But the question arises: what was in the “Iranian proposal” and what did B. Assad refuse? Over the past ten years of war, there has been no doubt that the Syrian leader is not at all in the clouds in terms of knowledge of the situation.

On Iran's special message to Lebanon and Syria


In order to understand not even the reasons and prerequisites of this collision, but at least the main "trigger", we must turn to the events of mid-November (15th), when another Iranian politician, Ali Larijani, delivered a "special message" from the Supreme Leader of Iran, A. Khamenei, to the head of the Lebanese government, B. Assad. What was in the message, naturally, was not disclosed.

The second time the proposal was discussed with B. Assad before the collapse of the system of governance, and afterwards there will be assessments that B. Assad trusted the wrong people (the West and the Arabian promises) and refused the outstretched hand. But it is not very clear what exactly was in this outstretched hand, especially at the time of such a collapse, when "profit" is usually not thought about.

This can be found out purely analytically, by exclusion, but D. Larijani himself partly helps in this. Later he will say, describing the situation.

"The Syrian Arab Army is clearly no longer capable of defending Syria, this issue should have been in our hands from the very beginning».

This is inconspicuous "from the very beginning" and there is one of the semaphore signals, on which the train of the sad Syrian epic moved. The signal, of course, is not the only one, but it is extremely important.

There is no doubt that the offensive of the "Idlib cesspool" (although now it is the "opposition") was linked to the date of the ceasefire in Lebanon - there is a difference of one day. The coordination of actions here is obvious, since Israel has begun to transfer forces to the Golan Heights. It is now using them in the occupation of the province of Quneitra.

However, this is precisely what indirectly shows that neither Turkey nor Israel expected such a collapse. Neither of them had sufficient reserves prepared to immediately send them in for the "opposition". In response to A. Khamenei's proposal, Syria was to be rocked simultaneously from the south and from the north, further complicating Iran's work in Syria. However, while pushing Syria to the edge, the interested parties did not expect Syria to jump into it at full speed.

Did the Iranians themselves understand that their proposal to transfer control over the Syrian armed forces to Iran would be met not only by B. Assad, but also by his generals, diplomatically speaking, with "some difficulty"? They should have understood. However, they hardly expected that a whole complex of reasons with a kind of multiplier effect would work.

The generals, and even more so the officer corps, did not want to be under Iranian rule in the past years, and were not particularly eager to do so after several years of relative peace. The sabotage of orders did not begin with the offensive from Idlib, but somewhat earlier. This even came into the sights of some media outlets that worked in Syria, it simply was not linked to Iranian proposals.

But the problem is that, having seen the fall of the city of Aleppo and its agglomeration (which is largely the result of this sabotage), the lower ranks have already begun to roughly understand the future prospects - another so many years of war.

Many in the Russian segment were making fun of B. Assad, who had 95% of the votes "for" in the elections. Well, he is a tyrant, no less. In fact, B. Assad actually had 95% of the votes, simply because the people were counting on restoration in a relatively peaceful time. Construction and restoration. And much was actually rebuilt later - the city of Aleppo as an example, although not the only one.

However, the situation with work and earnings in Syria has not improved in several years. And it is not a matter of some special corruption. In order to be known as a corrupt person in those "Palestines", you need to have special talents. It is just that neither the Chinese, nor the Arabs, nor the Russians gave money to the economy.

The Iranians gave, but not enough. Not out of greed, but simply so much was provided by trade through Syria and Lebanon, and so much could be taken from the financial system of Iran itself. At one time, H. Rouhani (the previous president) held rallies under the slogan "Neither Syria nor Lebanon - our home is Iran", demanding to reduce expenses on the Syrian campaign and on external expansion in general. For Iran, external expansion is the very money that the people need, but public opinion had to be listened to, and so much money was sent to Syria as foreign trade under the wing of the IRGC could allocate, taking into account the public balance.

Was Iran, with its capabilities, in principle capable of pulling out the Syrian economy, which had essentially been operating within the Iranian foreign trade circuit for several years? In fact, no.

But Tehran was very wary of how B. Assad was getting closer to the UAE, which had become a kind of guide for Syria to the Arab League. The UAE had its own frictions with Turkey and Qatar in Africa, including Libya and Central Africa, and Abu Dhabi considered Syria to be an adequate instrument in its political work. Hence the almost undisguised criticism of B. Assad from Tehran, that he allegedly “believed the assurances from the Arabian Peninsula,” and in addition “from the West,” and from Turkey, that he rejected their proposals. And what options did B. Assad have? By and large, none.

The Syrians might have been able to wait until everyone had finished bargaining and improved their standard of living, but the footage from Aleppo clearly showed them that instead they would be guaranteed another ten years of hopelessness with a salary of $150 and a black market, only with a war similar to that of 2013–2016.

If the Syrian command corps showed the Iranians the "fig", then the Syrians themselves, having also watched enough footage of jihadist and Turkish propaganda, simply acted according to the principle "if the barn burns down, let the house burn too". The combination of these two factors resulted in the phenomenal collapse of the system, which was irreparable. Did the Iranian negotiator understand this on December 7, when, without an expeditionary corps available, he offered his "hand" to B. Assad? Most likely, yes, but B. Assad obviously understood this too.

Triggers, Causes and Errors


The Iranian initiatives in November were the first trigger, and the footage from Aleppo was the second trigger, but they were not the causes and prerequisites for this crisis and collapse. It is very important to understand this, so that instead of blaming B. Assad (either from the Iranian or Russian side), we can understand and analyze the mistakes. Appointing a culprit does not contribute to this at all, simply because this history Everyone wrote this, not just B. Assad. Similarly, it is impossible to blame it on us or Iran.

There is no doubt that the huge final mistake of B. Assad himself was the lack of an appeal to the population in those few days when everything was just collapsing. The messages that he was either in Moscow, or had taken his family away, or had not returned himself, or was in Damascus, or was not there, completely demotivated both the personnel and the officer corps. And how to put together information messages, the curators of HTS (banned in the Russian Federation) know better than all of us put together, especially how to spread them on social networks in the Middle East. He will explain his motives himself someday. Maybe.

His second significant mistake, and ours and Iran’s too, was that we essentially let go of the winning situation in the Euphrates region, which had already developed last year (“Arab revolt in the Syrian Trans-Euphrates»).

Syria has been “warmed up” since about the summer of last year (“Syrian protests and US strategy in Lebanon"). But it is impossible to directly link that unrest in Syrian society and the current winter. The protests were pushed at that time in response to the escalation in the Trans-Euphrates region, where some Arab tribes began to very harshly defend their oil interests and clashed with the pro-American SDF. To prevent Damascus from making efforts there, economic protests were intensified - there was nothing good in the economy then either.

Considering that the Arabs had stopped directly supporting that region, a window of opportunity, albeit hypothetical, was formed for official Damascus to intervene in this struggle on the side of the Arabs.

The Assad regime tried (in a disorganized manner) to do this, but did not receive support from Iran and Russia, which did not make this direction an element of goal-setting. Now this position seems even more erroneous, since it would have allowed the Damascus armed forces to be “in tone” and motivate the population, since access to resources was what everyone in Syria was waiting for.

The chances of winning there were good, given the sluggishness of the US in this regard and the series of Arab uprisings. Having lost time there, they allowed the SDF and the tribes to agree on a new division of oil shares. But this already demotivated the Syrian population center, which began to understand that there would be no raw materials, which meant there would be no progress with money.

Russia and Iran had two points of mutual interest in Syria: the defeat of ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation) and the most "hard-core" formations and the retention of the ruling regime in Damascus. After these tasks were accomplished, interests in the deep part intersected only indirectly. Moscow acted as a kind of arbitrator in Syria, which means it could not give the advantage of winning to one of the parties, even to B. Assad himself, as a result of the work.

Iran initially viewed Syria as part of its trade network in the Middle East. The "Shiite Crescent" is not so much about faith as about trade - from Lebanese and Syrian ports to Iraq and Iraqi Kurdistan and further to Iran and Afghanistan. In Syria, the financial system was 80 percent, if not more, tied to this trade and direct supplies from Iran. In Lebanon, Iran and Hezbollah actually created a parallel financial system and a second market.

If we analyze the American research of last year, it is noteworthy that the main point of application of efforts was not the war, but operations against the Iranian financial sector in the region (“Why Lebanon's finances have become the object of US scrutiny»).

Yes, actually, what did B. Netanyahu carry “in his beak” for the US during the operation in Lebanon? Israel has been deliberately bombing Hezbollah's cash vaults and even ATMs. But the complex of operations had previously been aimed at controlling money transfer systems and controlling dollar turnover in Lebanon and Iraq. All this narrowed not only the inflow of dollars into Iran itself and its share in regional trade, but also the ability to support the Syrian economy.

Was there corruption in Syria? There was, but not much could be “corrupted”. In this regard, the claims against B. Assad that he somehow especially pressed Russian business are somewhat strange - the money is generally connected with Iran, after all, as well as the claims from Iran that it, they say, “believed the Arabs” - the money could de facto only be given by the UAE.

In theory, Moscow and Iran needed to create a kind of "economic pool" in which participation in economic sectors had to be described and approved, as well as rules for attracting money to Syria. The normalization of Iran's relations with Saudi Arabia and China's capabilities in this process could work as positive factors here.

Each side's wait-and-see approach and inability to distribute shares on an economic basis proved fatal. Syria could not survive on Iranian money and trade, and Moscow had little interest in the economy, since it was not its sphere, but Iran's.

Results and how they can be used


Moscow's position as an arbitrator, which reached a dead end after 2020, could have been played out to the common benefit. Iran, in turn, acted from a position of "jealousy", trying not only to get Syria as part of the economic contour, but also to directly control the military sphere, which in that situation meant controlling the entire policy. This is an interception of control and a crude interception. But Iran no longer had K. Soleimani, who played these games two orders of magnitude more subtly, and in terms of development, deeper.

There were several players in this not-so-positive story, and no one is to blame. Nevertheless, the final minus is the biggest for Iran. The Syrian collapse almost completely closes its route to Lebanese and Syrian ports, destroys trade chains, as well as money flows. This does not mean that it cannot work with Lebanon and Hezbollah, but the long-standing caravan routes through Damascus and the Lebanese mountains will now have “three prices,” if they work at all.

This chain-links Iran's work in Iraq, and here it must be said unequivocally that the US will continue to cleanse the Iraqi system for "excess currency". If the US really manages to do this, then in this case Iran itself can expect not the usual protests, which are frequent and habitual there, but full-fledged, severe ones, as well as a strong aggravation of relations in the elites. And will M. Pezeshkian, a man with a good reputation, but not the most experienced player, pull it off?

Moscow, with its position as an arbitrator, despite the extreme unpleasantness of losing what was won in the Syrian campaign of 2015-2020 (for the domestic Russian audience), has not the greatest damage in terms of international politics. Below Afghanistan for the US, since Moscow did not touch on the domestic politics of Syria.

Moreover, Turkey and the US will most likely allow Russia to “save face” by either allowing it to withdraw its military forces without problems, or even leaving Moscow with military bases, perhaps revising the lease terms, etc. However, Russia will not get much practical benefit from them. The surprising thing here will be something else: Moscow will even be invited to intra-Syrian negotiations as Turkey’s partner.

But we must understand that it is not only and not so much about the so-called "Turkish tomatoes", but that such a position automatically separates us from Iran in the Middle East. Politically, this will be very tempting for us, and we will even be able to talk about how we are valued and respected, but the "esteemed partners" will be solving a different problem here - a wedge with Iran. On the other hand, if we refuse, they will invite Iran and arrange a heated discussion on this topic within it. A very subtle game will be played. If we fall for this negotiating diplomacy, they will separate us completely and beat us in parts.

This game is already being modeled. Judging by the same "Washington Institute for Near East Policy" (WINEP), they are discussing not so much the reasons for the defeat of the regime in Damascus, but, for example, the possibilities of strengthening Russia's negotiating positions in Lebanon given the weakening of Iran's positions, as well as the role in the negotiating process in the "new Syria".

While we are discussing whether B. Assad is a tyrant or not, they are going three steps further. We are thinking (correctly) about the fate of military bases in Tartus and Latakia, but the "enemy" is looking further.

"If Russia takes on a peacekeeping role in Syria, it will give Moscow the opportunity to advance its interests at the expense of the West and its allies."

This is from the material "Spoils of Someone Else's War: Acting as a Mediator in Syria Will Improve Putin's International Image" The author, A. Borshchevskaya, despite her age, is a well-known American expert with a consistent anti-Russian position, but not one of those who write juicy grant theses and slogans. That is why the direction of thought that is being felt in the depths of WINEP is important. This is a discussion about whether to give the role of a mediator or not. The author is against, but that means that there are many who are for, that is the question.

The Americans знают, that we will cling to the role of referee, remembering that this bore fruit in the last iteration of the Syrian game. They know and will catch us with this bait carefully and wisely, since now there will be a lot of options to not bear fruit as a result. Such a discussion will go out into the wide space, and it will turn out that Russia has sort of achieved the status of a new mediator in Syria by force. Only the door was actually open.

Why are they already considering this aspect? Israel will support the "Kurds" and Iraqi Kurdistan, here we will also be offered to enter the game, but it will also indirectly work to break Iranian trade chains.

Iran and Russia should most carefully analyze not B. Assad, the reasons why a "cooperative model" was not made in Syria. If this is not done, then we will be drawn into a strategy where everyone will hypothetically receive kites quickly, and in the long term there will be problems in the Iranian economy and blocking of Russia's work in the south.
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  1. + 22
    12 December 2024 04: 01
    Iran and Russia should take a very careful look at

    It seems that the Russian leadership is now capable of only reacting to what has already happened, like an amoeba...
    1. 0
      12 December 2024 10: 08
      Russia is fighting against the military-industrial complex and the financial might of NATO, the EU and the US, and is generally successful, given the strengths of the parties. But the Iranian leadership, for the sake of normalizing relations with the West and renewing the nuclear deal, thinks that if it cedes some of its interests to the West, then good Uncle Sam will definitely honestly and without cheating give up the desire to carry out a revolution in Iran. Well, if the history of Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad teaches nothing, then the Democrats from the US may knock on the door (with a rifle butt).
      1. +3
        12 December 2024 10: 22
        Quote from Flyer
        Russia is fighting against the military-industrial complex and financial power of NATO, the EU and the US, and overall successfully, given the strengths of the parties.

        Successfully, successfully, especially on the first TV channel. Considering the sides, do not forget the nuclear weapons of the USSR, otherwise without them we would have had to fight NATO...
      2. -2
        12 December 2024 11: 02
        Russia is fighting against the military-industrial complex and financial power of NATO, the EU and the US, and overall successfully, given the strengths of the parties

        And also the Middle East, the Umbrella Corporation, the Masons, the Anunnaki, and the Greek and Scandinavian deities. laughing

        And at the same time, we have almost liberated Sudzha.
        Hurray, long live our great king!
        1. +8
          12 December 2024 11: 27
          It's so stupid that there's no point in commenting.
          1. -5
            12 December 2024 11: 28
            So stupid that there is no point in commenting

            Totally agree!
        2. 0
          12 December 2024 11: 29
          And at the same time we already almost Sudzha was released.

          the key word in this phrase is highlighted...
          oh yeah, and it's already the 5th month...
          1. +2
            12 December 2024 11: 34
            Sudzha - is it Berlin or Washington? What does the liberation of this regional center give? I am already tired of quoting Clausewitz: "The main thing is the defeat of the enemy army, the territories will come themselves when the army is defeated."
        3. +6
          12 December 2024 11: 37
          Is Russia not alone against the military-industrial complex of NATO, the EU and the USA?
      3. +9
        12 December 2024 11: 25
        Who won and who lost in Syria will be seen later. It can already be said that the neighbors will have "fun". Because instead of a more or less sane government, Makhnovshchina will begin there. And the result will be seen later - in 5-10 years. Perhaps a new Osama bin Laden will grow up there.
        1. +4
          12 December 2024 14: 17
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Who won and who lost in Syria will be seen later. It can already be said that the neighbors will have "fun".

          I totally agree.
          A friend of mine returned from a trip to Israel 3 weeks ago.
          The tour guide told them directly that all the events of the last year
          are directly related to Israel's decision to build the 3rd Temple.
          And to do this, the Jews will have to demolish both Al Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock.
          When (not if, but when) this happens - the 3rd World War will begin in the Middle East.
          In my opinion, at this moment our troops should not be in Syria.
          Let the Saudis and Erdogan rack their brains over how they will then look in the eyes of Muslims around the world. Yes

          And this is Rabinovich's candlestick. Waiting for it to be installed in the 3rd Temple.
          1. +2
            12 December 2024 15: 28
            Yes, the problem of the Third Temple is global. If the Jews try to demolish the mosques on the Temple Mount, then all Muslims will rise up, without division into directions and currents. And then, the Jews will simply be trampled, even with their nuclear weapons.
            1. +1
              12 December 2024 20: 30
              Quote: TermNachTER
              If the Jews try to demolish the mosques on the Temple Mount, then all the Muslims will rise up

              A difficult question. Last year I became interested in the Temple topic when I read that funds for its construction were included in the Israeli budget for this year.
              There was no war with Hamas yet.
              The construction of the Temple is the only thing that somehow explains to me the cruelty with which the Israelis have been acting this entire year.
              They need to "drive all the Muslims nearby under the bunk."
              I simply don’t see any other explanation.
              But, as we know, many things did not go according to plan.
              I can’t imagine that the Turks or the Saudis will somehow act against Israel, even if it demolishes mosques.
              The Saudis are definitely not fighters. They only know how to pay.
              We'll see how things play out. hi
              1. +2
                12 December 2024 21: 14
                In this case, not only the near ones, but also the distant ones will rise. The Saudis are not fighters, but they have money to hire fighters. There are unpretentious guys who are ready to fight for $100 a month.
            2. +1
              14 December 2024 05: 50
              I doubt it, so far only Muslims are being trampled.
              1. +1
                14 December 2024 11: 41
                They will get to the rest too. For fanatics, everyone who is not with them is bad.
    2. +3
      12 December 2024 11: 26
      You can immediately feel the deep analytics and systematic approach)))
    3. 0
      12 December 2024 11: 31
      It seems that the Russian leadership is now capable of only reacting to what has already happened, like an amoeba...

      They don't have time for that: spiders are busy in a glass jar - they say Assad took out a large sum of money...
      1. +1
        12 December 2024 13: 26
        Quote: Dedok
        They say Assad took out a large sum of money...

        I hope you took the money to your new place of residence. laughing
        1. +8
          12 December 2024 13: 37
          The Turks write that "the tyrant Assad has transferred to Russia" as much as 135 billion dollars.
          Yes, Assad needs to be put in his place by Nabiullina, no joke, a simple Syrian guy returned almost half of Russia’s frozen gold and foreign exchange reserves! laughing
          1. +5
            12 December 2024 13: 42
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            The Turks write that "the tyrant Assad has transferred to Russia" as much as 135 billion dollars.

            Well, Vladimir Volfovich had been suggesting this for a long time and Solovyov had ridiculed him back then, but Zhirinovsky apparently turned out to be right.
            1. +5
              12 December 2024 13: 47
              Well, I don’t know what Volfych assumed, but 135 billion is all of Syria’s exports for 15 years (if not more) laughing
              1. +3
                12 December 2024 16: 46
                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                Well, I don't know what Volfych assumed.

                He suggested that Assad keep his money with us.
                1. +8
                  12 December 2024 17: 15
                  It was a really smart suggestion then. wink
                  But I believe that it was partially fulfilled, because Syria had 26 tons of gold and they are most likely really in storage with us. And that is correct.
    4. +8
      12 December 2024 13: 00
      Vladimir_2U: "... the Russian leadership is only capable of reacting to what has already happened....." - Your thesis is not entirely correct and appropriate.... Russia is forced to react THIS way for a number of objective reasons: 1. Russia still cannot decide for itself what kind of State, with what kind of socio-political system it is building or intends to build.... 2. In the power structures, every other one is friends, relatives, classmates, mistresses and lovers with a very dubious education, culture, intelligence, and, especially, experience and knowledge of government work... And the natural feeling of "healthy arrogance" tells these officials that "sticking out", showing toughness and persistence in protecting state interests is "more expensive for themselves"... And constant "invisibility" in the general crowd of new Russian "boyars" makes it possible to calmly "feed" on the fat state. field, and if you show a little "savvy", you can "steal" from the state purse, "secretly" go to London to treat hemorrhoids or to the Maldives to treat radiculitis, "buy" real estate in Lugano or Santa Barbara. 3. It is difficult to react "in a proletarian - Leninist way" in a country with an absent, at the constitutional level, ideology and everything that is connected with it (heartfelt) (let me remind everyone, the Mausoleum, boarded up with plywood and planks on the eve of May 9, every year ...), the systematic and targeted work of the "fifth column" in the financial and economic sector, culture, education and even in science ... 4. The absence of strict legislation regarding traitors, embezzlers, "waiters" at all levels, saboteurs and "random" people in power, management, economics, finance, culture and education ... In the current "situation" it is difficult to be principled, decisive, especially if you are alone, "like a finger" or with a bunch of sympathizers or, still, "those who have not decided which team they play for" ... It is easier and safer "to be out of business" or to pretend that "everything under control"...
      1. +2
        13 December 2024 13: 00
        Very accurate! I agree with you if not 100 percent, then 99 percent!!!!
    5. 0
      16 December 2024 17: 27
      Why "nowadays"? This is basically the style of work from the very beginning. This is the lack of strategic talents, this was already discussed in 2014.
  2. +5
    12 December 2024 05: 38
    As they say, "We are responsible for those we tame" (c)
    1. +1
      16 December 2024 17: 29
      Exactly. Besides, you shouldn't look at your feet, but ahead (I'm not saying far ahead). There's a good saying: the hat doesn't fit Senka.
  3. +6
    12 December 2024 05: 48
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Iran and Russia should take a very careful look at

    It seems that the Russian leadership is now capable of only reacting to what has already happened, like an amoeba...

    This is how the official statements of our authorities sound.
    "There will definitely be a response." smile
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Finance, and the talking moustache.
    1. 0
      16 December 2024 17: 30
      first concerns, then the reddest lines, now "wait for an answer...".
  4. +2
    12 December 2024 06: 12
    breaking Iranian trade chains.
    How can Iranian trade chains be broken while the exit from the Persian Gulf is not blocked? In the worst case for Iran, transportation will become more expensive, although it is still a question of what is more expensive, caravans through Iraq-Syria-Lebanon with transshipment in Lebanese ports, or by sea around the Arabian Peninsula. Although of course, if you are transporting prohibited goods, like missiles for Hezbollah, there is a greater risk that they will be intercepted at sea.
    1. +5
      12 December 2024 07: 18
      Well, there are many such elements in politics and economics that are not obvious to an outside observer, but by the standards of the region are very significant. The US, by the way, has always taken this feature of regional trade chains into account and has repeatedly attempted to suppress these channels. The Material contains links to descriptions of these attempts and discussions around them. Oil tankers are only part of the drain that feeds Iran, the second part is regional trade, which I sometimes call the "dollar vacuum cleaner".
      A sharp breakdown of these chains could have a very serious impact on internal stability in Iran.
      1. +2
        12 December 2024 08: 10
        nikolaevskiy78(Mikhail)
        I will offer my version of why the Assad regime fell in Syria. In my opinion, the Russian Federation, Iran, Turkey and the Persian Gulf countries agreed on who and how and through whom will supply their energy resources to consumer countries, i.e. there was a redistribution of the sales market. Therefore, the need to support the regime in Syria has lost its necessity.
        1. +4
          12 December 2024 08: 57
          The "fixed deal" will be considered in the examination for a long time (my opinion is that it is a "post-factual fix", not before the events), but the raw material reasons for all this mess seem to me to be secondary, if not tertiary. Assad himself and the gas industry have been saying on their forums that the "Qatari pipeline" is not a factor at all, but how stable the topic turned out to be. The funniest thing is that now the radicals themselves will ask Qatar to lay the pipeline, because there will be no money in Syria at all. They will ask, offer, just as the Kurds and anarchists traveled around Europe several years ago and offered.
          1. +4
            12 December 2024 09: 12
            The funniest thing is that now the radicals themselves will ask Qatar to extend the pipeline, because there will be no money in Syria at all.
            It is quite possible that the pipeline from Qatar will be laid through Syrian territory, but it will probably go through Turkey. As far as I remember, it was previously planned to lay a gas pipeline from Iran to Syria to the Mediterranean ports.
            1. +5
              12 December 2024 09: 18
              It is easier for Qatar to just give them some money. And the pipeline already goes there - from Egypt and Jordan to Lebanon, it can be extended, as proposed, to Turkey. But for some reason no one talks about it. And it, unlike the mythical "pipe from Qatar", is actually working.
              1. +3
                12 December 2024 09: 55
                In order to lay a pipe, it is first necessary to agree with all the participants through whom this pipe will pass. Turkey wants to become the largest gas hub and Erdogan is ready to fight with competitors for this project. The question is whether he will be allowed to implement this project, since now the US is reviving the Greater Israel project in the Middle East and it is not yet clear where the northern borders of this state will be laid, although pro-Turkish proxies are in favor of the integrity of Syria, but the US has its own opinion on this.
                1. -1
                  13 December 2024 01: 46
                  Quote: Gomunkul
                  Now the US is reviving the Greater Israel project in the Middle East
                  Israel will most likely stop at the northern slopes of the Golan Heights, and at the very bottom or a little higher, we will see. The positions are convenient for defense, and the local population is the Druze, in the integration of which Israel has positive experience. And further, the positions become less convenient, and the population is Sunni Arabs, with whom Israel has the most negative experience of cohabitation. And there are no willing or resources to drive them out and settle their own, and the "progressive world community" will start screaming. And again, Israel will definitely try to make peace with the new government of Syria, when and if one appears, and it does not matter which faction of the "opposition" gains the upper hand, they will still be Sunni Arabs, and therefore taking away the lands that they consider theirs and attacking their fellow tribesmen is not the best idea. And the Sunnis are not friends or relatives with the Druze.
  5. +8
    12 December 2024 06: 29
    Thanks for the article, Michael!
    I have doubts, bordering on rejection, about the thesis:
    This chain-links Iran's work in Iraq, and here it must be said unequivocally that the US will continue to cleanse the Iraqi system for "excess currency". If the US really manages to do this, then in this case Iran itself can expect not the usual protests, which are frequent and habitual there, but full-fledged, severe ones, as well as a strong aggravation of relations in the elites. And will M. Pezeshkian, a man with a good reputation, but not the most experienced player, pull it off?

    It is very strange that you, as an undoubtedly subtle analyst, do not see the simplest combination carried out by the USA and Israel: the collapse of Iran due to internal treason in the country's leadership. M. Pezeshkian, as a protégé of the USA, was brought to power by political strategists against the backdrop of Iranians' disappointment in the clerical system of power. Mossad (or the CIA) organized a man-made disaster of I. Raisi's helicopter, having prepared in advance for the early presidential elections. After implementing the plan to bring their protégé to power, the USA and Israel began an operation to eliminate Hezbollah, Assad's forces, and Iranian influence in the region. At the same time, the fifth column of Iran, as expected, makes a lot of patriotic sounds, but in fact, it is draining the remains of Iran's ability to resist. So the current Iranian government has not suffered any losses in terms of advancing the interests of the USA and Israel, as well as its own selfish interests in overthrowing the power of the clerical elite. The defeat in Syria is only a pretext for fueling the population's discontent and preparing the Iranian anti-clerical revolution, which will destroy Iran as a power. A complete analogy with Perestroika in the USSR.
    1. +3
      12 December 2024 07: 11
      Thank you for the good review, but your construction contains a deliberately incorrect thesis - "Peseshkian is a US protégé". But the rupture of trade chains could very well affect internal stability in Iran, but the mistake here is not Pezeshkian's, but in the strategy of the KSIR, which is responsible for regional trade, currency, political and military operations.
      1. +7
        12 December 2024 08: 57
        Half a century ago I was taught: if the enemy has a chance, he will take advantage of it.
        So here too, I assert: Masoud Pezeshkian is a US agent, draining Iran's assets for a mythical agreement with the West and lifting sanctions. He came to power due to the element of surprise, which the ayatollahs were unable to suppress. But the element of surprise was created by the US or Israeli intelligence services (although still under the auspices of the US) by eliminating President Ibrahim Raisi at the RIGHT TIME. By this time, discontent with the clerical rule had been stirred up in the passionate environment, which led to the desired result.
        The operation is at the highest level, inaccessible to our "privatizers of privatizers" - the participants of the rally in "Gelikas".
        I understand that it is difficult to admit the insignificance of our SVR and diplodocus diplomacy against the backdrop of the enemy’s actions, but only objectivity is capable of starting real work on mistakes instead of imitating them through propaganda buffoonery.
        1. +5
          12 December 2024 09: 01
          "I claim that Pezeshkian is a US agent"

          - On what basis do you so firmly "assert"? You yourself are the one who interprets for London propaganda, and you offer to everyone winked
          Only objectivity is capable of starting real work on mistakes instead of imitating them through propaganda buffoonery

          Then you should provide some facts that Pezeshkian is an "agent", or some compelling arguments.
          1. +5
            12 December 2024 10: 02
            If in 86-87 someone had declared M.S. Gorbachev a traitor and gravedigger of the USSR, the qualified majority would have also considered him a fantasist and conspiracy theorist and demanded evidence. Five years have passed and the facts have irrefutably confirmed this point of view. Although evidence has not been presented to this day.
            Do you really think that the best intelligence agencies in the world did not bother to cover up their most valuable agent?
            And in such a way that there would be at least a hint of evidence!
            Yes, this is a hypothesis, but I have been adhering to it since the election of M. Pezeshkian, and all my predictions within the framework of this hypothesis have so far come true.
            By the way, you should have pointed a similar situation not only at Iran. A different view from that given by propaganda sometimes allows us to explain a lot.
            1. +3
              12 December 2024 10: 09
              Well, it's your business, "I believe it or not."
              A different view from that given by propaganda can sometimes explain a lot.

              So, in relation to Iran, it is set precisely through the narratives of the Iranian opposition in London, you just don’t feel it. And it is set because 80% of information about Iran is transmitted through the same filter, just somewhere more subtly, somewhere more crudely. You just don’t feel this background, apparently. But you can do an interesting experiment. Take our news feed on Iran, for a month, for example, and scrupulously go through the primary sources once. You can even go not for an abstract month, but specifically for June. Dig into these “roots”, and it will become clear what kind of tops these are.
              1. +4
                12 December 2024 11: 26
                You are absolutely right about our media, which actually operate under the subtle control of Western curators.
                And my attitude towards Pezeshkian is not formed by news feeds, although working with open sources provides at least 80% of the necessary information. It is simply necessary to superimpose a sequence of events related to the topic onto chaos (even if caused by a leak in the media) and establish a connection between them. And also to determine the beneficiary in each case. And the picture (even if somewhat biased, and where would we be without it) will emerge.
                As for the moth-eaten Iranian emigration - they have already done their job. All the action is in Iran itself, and for now the outlook from my point of view is bleak.
                1. +4
                  12 December 2024 12: 14
                  Iran has a nuclear trump card up its sleeve and it is clear that it will use it. Only Gorbachev or anyone else has nothing to do with it. This is an old question and an old bargain. Then the nuclear deal, despite all its difficulties of perception inside Iran, was ultimately a consensus between the reformers and the IRGC. There are not many such factors.
                  Britain, France and Germany informed the UN Security Council last night that they were prepared to take any diplomatic step to force Iran to stop its massive uranium enrichment, including activating the "snapback" mechanism provided for in the nuclear deal that could bring back all tough sanctions on dozens of people and organisations in Iran...

                  In general, if it weren't for the very specific factors like the Su-35 and the like, it wouldn't be surprising to simply cross Russia out of their strategic plans. This is no joke. Trade turnover is $4 billion and it's barely growing, the Russian elite is doing everything to stop it from growing, the top brass is totally pro-Western, just waiting to be lured back into the EU. All the projects and "corridors" are just pipe dreams. Our infrastructure (!) is built mainly by Iran itself for itself. We behave with Turkey as if we simply have a branch of Ankara at the top. So what do we expect from them? Well, call Pezeshkian - Gorbachev, but this will only further convince us that there's no point in working with us. After all, we don't read their press, we don't listen to their speakers, we don't want to understand their problems and tasks. That's how things are.
                  1. +2
                    12 December 2024 14: 19
                    In general, if I were in Iran’s place, if there were absolutely precise factors like the Su-35 and the like, it would not be surprising to simply cross Russia out of their strategic plans.

                    Wow!
                    Iran has strategic plans again? And I naively thought that they were buried along with the ideals of the Islamic Revolution, and Iran is simply rushing around in tactical plans for survival in a hostile environment. And where is their messianism in the Islamic world, or breakthrough ideas capable of uniting all the oppressed of the East against the oppressors of the West?
                    Seriously speaking, big politics is not based on Sasha not liking Masha, but on the common interests of the anti-American world. They basically need a nuclear umbrella from us in the face of the threat of the country's destruction, and we need a proxy in the region. At the same time, both we and they have a powerful opposition, ready to surrender the country in exchange for their own well-being. Apparently, the Americans and Israelis masterfully played Iran, and this potential card of ours was preemptively beaten.
                    By the way, I will be glad to be wrong, but in my opinion you, like most people, are living in the kingdom of the myth of the omnipotence of nuclear weapons as a deterrent. If you have a tiny amount of these weapons, and you don’t really know how to use them, then this is not a sword-kladenets and not a guarantee of immunity, but a direct threat to your existence. Without a strong state-daddy - you will be immediately destroyed as a country that poses a certain threat. Examples are North Korea and China, Israel and the USA.
                    And as for our pro-Western so-called elite - put on the shelves the actions of our leadership and the beneficiary of these actions, and maybe the game of solitaire will come together.
                    1. +3
                      12 December 2024 14: 46
                      Indeed, how could some Iran have any "strategic plans"? belay
                      P.S. I generally do not use the nuclear weapons factor in my work. I once made a remark about the negative impact of a broad discussion of nuclear weapons. In my opinion, nuclear weapons are a factor for countries such as the DPRK and Iran, since in their case this is a significant characteristic of the balance of power. In the US-RF-EU plan, nuclear weapons are a media cover, not a factor, since neither side is considering bringing the situation (even hypothetically) to its use.
                      1. +2
                        12 December 2024 15: 24
                        Thank you Michael!
                        It was nice to talk.
                        As for nuclear weapons and all their mysteries, we really won't go into detail. And regarding the use of Russia as a regulator in this zone, it is extremely doubtful. Neither Turkey nor Israel need this, which means they will agree with a certain participation of the USA (there is a signature on the official papers APPROVED).
                        It seems to me that Turkey is being prepared as a battering ram for the entire region, like Germany once was. So there will be no time to get bored.
                    2. +1
                      12 December 2024 17: 30
                      And thank God that religious obscurantism has been defeated; it should not spread throughout the world.
            2. -2
              13 December 2024 02: 00
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              If in 86-87 of the last century someone had declared M.S. Gorbachev a traitor and gravedigger of the USSR
              You overestimate the intellectual abilities of the Hunchback. A cunning apparatchik who managed to get to the very top, but didn't figure out how to act at the top, and stupidly destroyed everything. Do you really think that a man who has absolute and undivided power over half the world (okay, not the largest half and not the richest, but still almost half), in his right mind and memory, would willingly exchange it for a bunch of greenbacks? The American treasury has never printed enough in its entire history. And even if he did exchange it, he would try to make sure that the country where he still has a long life to live was calm and comfortable. But a fool can destroy even a subject of male pride, let alone a country.
    2. +5
      12 December 2024 07: 19
      Maybe I'm wrong, but won't Pezeshkian be like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who surrendered the country either because of delusions, or because of stupidity, or because of betrayal?
      1. +4
        12 December 2024 09: 39
        No, it won't, but that doesn't mean that our neighbors (strategically important ones) don't have problems with planning and goal-setting. They do have big ones (even very big ones), but the problem isn't "Agent Pezeshkian".
        Yes, they lack people of the level of K. Suleimani, they lack them. Sometimes the system itself drives itself into a dead end, without any agents. You can look at us, only we will have more agents than Iran, and simply those who are many times worse than a direct agent.
  6. +7
    12 December 2024 06: 39
    Just like that, simply and quickly, without any secret agreements, the country is not given up. It comes to mind that this is a bargaining for Ukraine, something like that, we give up Syria and remove one point of tension in the Middle East, and you give us some concessions on Ukraine. Such a scenario is beneficial both for the West and for neighboring Turkey. I am convinced that the militants, not having any serious air defense, would have been simply flattened by our attack aircraft. But for some reason this did not happen. I express exclusively my opinion and vision of the situation
  7. +8
    12 December 2024 06: 39
    It's good that this region does not border Russia. In general, the Middle East is such an explosive mixture and you need to think a hundred times before getting into it. All three main religions fight there, Christian, Muslim, Jewish. There really aren't enough Hindus.
    We need to somehow get out of this snake pit. And deal with our own problems. This is a war with Ukraine.
    This is the internal functioning of the state. Finance, industry, agriculture, health care, education, housing and communal services.
    The government needs to be dismissed, they don't understand what to do with the current situation, for example, with aviation, mortgages, agriculture, inflation. Professionals are needed to change the monetary system to a production system. It is not the banks that should command, but the manufacturers. soldier
  8. +5
    12 December 2024 07: 45
    Good afternoon. Thank you for the detailed analysis.
    Let me try to look at the problem from a different angle:
    1. "Continental Syria" - a kind of Kindzadza without normal agriculture, food shortages, and an excess of young population.
    Absolutely negative asset.
    At the same time, this is a place where passionate people from all over the poor Islamic world are drawn.
    2. The decline in the importance of isolated resource deposits. Without a sales infrastructure under your own control, this is also a liability, and a bloody liability at that. If you only have resources without infrastructure, you will be conditionally bombed or conditional bogeymen will be sent to you. (This applies not only to Syria).
    3. Islam as a factor of instability. The religion, which at the time of its creation carried the message of world consolidation, became the cause of division and internal conflict.

    Brief conclusions:
    1. The territory of Syria - the desert will not be a place in the near future where at least someone will establish a lasting peace. It is a utilizer of passionaries.
    2. Iran needs continental trade and should be included in the renewed Great Silk Road.
    3. A continental union is inevitable, its basis is internal trade routes that need to be protected.
    1. +4
      12 December 2024 08: 11
      I agree about continental trade, Iran has been building it for so long (in its part of geography, of course), but regarding food and resources in Syria, a remark needs to be made.
      As an exporter (with some exceptions for raw materials), Syria was a non-entity, but it could provide for itself. Including food. The drought there had seriously affected some areas, but not all. They did grow a lot of things.
      And as for passionarity, well, drought is generally a factor that makes people very passionate. smile
  9. +2
    12 December 2024 08: 21
    Iran has lost the most in Syria, but this is only the beginning of a new game where we will be beaten piecemeal
    If Iran is the biggest loser in Syria, then let them beat them, but why us? We are our own, not even Islamists or jihadists. smile
    1. +5
      12 December 2024 09: 04
      That's what they are offering us, you'll even see that now they will offer us to mediate on the "intra-Syrian track". However, the conditions similar to 2015 no longer exist, there is nothing to mediate there now. If they cut Iran off from us, they will lock us into the framework of trade with China, and it's good for China and for everyone else, but bad for us. So we need to go with a cooperative strategy with Iran, and not the other way around.
      1. +1
        12 December 2024 09: 46
        China is doing well, and everyone else is doing badly for us
        But for what? "We are neither f what, nor f what, not finofats" (c) smile
        1. +4
          12 December 2024 09: 50
          Did China offer us to join the Community? Yes, it did. We have the "Global South" project and corridors there from the North to the whole of India. China will watch all this with interest. We will bring them resources anyway.
          1. +2
            12 December 2024 09: 52
            And what else am I talking about, about the scribe who sneaks up unnoticed.
  10. 0
    12 December 2024 09: 50
    Iran is a country with its own policy. They do not want the influence of other countries. Including the Russian Federation and China.
    The West and Israel will slow down their development. Reliance on internal forces will not give the growth and progress that Iran wants.
    And for friends like the Russian Federation and China, you also need to sacrifice something and open markets. The Persians don't want it anyway. If you take the Arabs as an example, they invite British and US bases to their territory and live peacefully.
    1. +5
      12 December 2024 09: 58
      Iran has its own party of "non-Russians". By the way, when Soleimani pushed through the provision of the Hamadan airbase to Russia as a base for a jump in 2016, it was comrade Larijani, who was one of the last to negotiate with Lebanon and Assad, who spoke from high platforms that "the Russians must leave Hamadan immediately", saying that it contradicts the constitution and that's it. Yeah. This is taking into account what was happening on the ground at the time.
  11. +3
    12 December 2024 09: 58
    "Will they beat us?" They have been beating us for a long time. China cannot be touched directly yet - there is not enough strength and the Chinese themselves are not doing anything. The DPRK cannot be touched yet either - there are no soldiers in Russia, but there is a bomb. Russia is now trying to get out of the Ukrainian swamp and cannot come running to help Syria. Belarus is only intimidated, but they are not interfering - they are not sure of the reaction of Russian society. But Iran turned out to be a convenient target for a strike - Israel is depleting Iranian missile reserves, destroying the Hezbollah structure, killing Iranian generals and politicians. And so Iran has to "concentrate" at home. The result for the USA: the opponents are divided into parts and the first strike on one part brought success.
    1. 0
      12 December 2024 15: 01
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      Israel Depletes Iranian Missile Stockpiles, Destroys Hezbollah Structure

      Israel was also depleting its own reserves. It was after Assad's fall that Israel launched a series of strikes on weapons and ammunition depots in Syria.
      1. -2
        13 December 2024 02: 09
        Quote: gsev
        Israel was also depleting its reserves.
        It will replenish much faster than Iran, at least because the US will help, and Iran has the only plant for producing rocket fuel into rubble, and sanctions, so it will not be possible to get equipment at once. And the air defense was taken out, so the next raid will be able to safely hit targets of its choice. Iran understands this, and will not risk provoking Israel or America in the coming years, but will sit like a mouse under a broom and not rustle.
  12. +2
    12 December 2024 11: 23
    Big "uncles" play big "games". Someone wins, and someone loses. And, there is no third "exit" or result in any game, since it is just a postponed game, which can, at any moment, continue again. And, it is very important to understand, starting the game, who are you, a full-fledged player or you are cynically "played", inviting to "an excellent company from others". And, when you yourself bring money to this "company", invest resources, time, nerves, and, as a result, playing in other people's games, in the faraway lands, and, according to other people's rules, you are left with nothing, then what is all "THIS" called? That's right, it's a scam! (And at home, for a long time now, the roof is leaking, the floorboards are "swaying" and the fence is crooked. And in the "stash" where the money was, the wind is blowing (... And the friends - buddies, who invited you to play and swore that they would grab the "big jackpot", are wiping their bloody snot. And in addition, the winners have as collateral your bases, equipment and, most importantly, people. Our people (. True, and there is no one to really ask the big Russian "uncle" for this "loss"! (Because now only they are the masters, and all the rest are serfs! (But this is a small consolation, because if you do not have real friends in the country, then there are no real allies and assistants who will not betray, will not abandon you in "hard times", who are with you "not for money", but because, namely, friends, relatives from youth, and buddies). But, all your real friends and assistants, you robbed, robbed, in the 90s and 2000s and allowed them to be robbed by foreign predators from all over the world, making them poor and destitute. And the poor and destitute, and especially serfs, at all times, are not allies of players...

    P.S. Don't play "other people's games". They'll cheat you anyway(...

    PPS When the government, in the interests of its oligarchic rule, grows and "educates" poor and dependent serfs, and not self-sufficient and strong citizens, during any serious "mess", "THIS" happens. Because serfs and beggars do not need ANYTHING BUT parasitism on the master. And when there are NO citizens, but, in fact, there are only poor and dependent serfs, then they ALWAYS run and betray first, and this oligarchic rule collapses, and with it, the country may collapse into the abyss of History.
    For those who know how to think, analyze and make THEIR OWN conclusions, take an interest in the percentage of poor or simply destitute Russian population in Russia.
  13. +3
    12 December 2024 11: 26
    in my opinion, everything is heading towards the solution of the "Iranian issue" from the side of the SGA, at first with the help of others
    1. +1
      12 December 2024 12: 01
      Yes, it is. And for the first time in a long time, Iran's trade system has been dealt a really strong blow. In four or five months, we will see that this will have a decent impact on their internal affairs. But the US has not yet dealt with Iraq, they have not been able to do so before (or rather, part of their military and intelligence lobby was involved there themselves). How it will be now - we will soon see.
  14. +1
    12 December 2024 13: 57
    After the fall of the B. Assad regime, the first thought that came to mind about what would happen next....is that Iran is expecting major internal upheavals......
  15. +1
    12 December 2024 16: 47
    Mikhail, thank you for the article and for your sober view of the state of affairs. After reading it, I thought about this: the genius Zadornov issued a maxim about the stupidity of Americans about twenty years ago? And from year to year, this maxim again and again goes down with a bang, and from the lips of experts who are highly respected in wide circles. Against the background of this patriotic mockery, the Americans have been successfully bending the chess judoka over the past twenty years and the past ten years with the tomato dad who has joined them. But these are my thoughts, my horses.

    What would happen if the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran signed a Strategic Partnership Agreement similar to the Russian Federation's Agreement with the DPRK? Or what would happen if such an agreement were signed?
    1. +2
      12 December 2024 17: 35
      Thank you for rating the work hi
      In order not to be pushed around, we need to get out of the Syrian epic for now, although they will try to persuade us to stay. There is no need to persuade. There will no longer be a situation similar to 2016-2020 and there will be no gains in that political context. We need to get out of there and work on our mistakes. Or not work on them (which is easier).
      It is very sad that Syrian Christianity has essentially reached its end and all that remains will move to Lebanon. It is a pity, after all, it is the de facto cradle of this teaching.
      As for the agreement with Iran. For now, Iran has taken a pause and this is probably even good, because everyone needs to decide what we are building in cooperation, if we are building at all.
      Iran needs the EAEU and the Russian market, but the problem is that the EAEU largely complies with sanctions against us in Central Asia. Iran can work with Central Asia anyway. The Russian elite does not want to develop business with Iran. The necessary scale has not been achieved for years.
      Then the basic question in Iran is the "nuclear deal", yes or no. If yes (it is not excluded), then the agreement with us will be a purely economic agreement, as was originally planned. If "no", then it is possible that some military-oriented clauses will be included in the agreement. Which path to take is not clear for obvious reasons until the end of January. The EU wants to conclude a deal, Trump broke it at the time. So let's wait.
      For Russia, a military agreement is a good political lever, for Iran too, but they have a stronger lever - uranium enrichment. At the same time, an economic agreement will not give us much if we continue to put Iranian trade in a non-priority place for the sake of the Turkish and Azerbaijani lobby. And this is not good, because the real route to the south in trade lies through Iran and together with Iran. And Turkey and Azerbaijan should have their own specific model of mutual interests with us, but without a tug of war.
      1. +1
        12 December 2024 20: 42
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        It is very sad that Syrian Christianity has essentially reached its end and all that remains will move to Lebanon. It is a pity, after all, it is the de facto cradle of this teaching.

        Their Christianity has nothing to do with us. Just like Catholic and Protestant Christianity. There is nothing to regret, especially against the backdrop of the degrading Orthodoxy in our own country.
        In the US-RF-EU plan, nuclear weapons are a media cover, not a factor, since neither side is considering bringing the situation (even hypothetically) to its use.

        Let's take the situation that the Russian Federation does not have nuclear weapons. Especially intercontinental class - the Americans would have dealt with us, as in their time, with Yugoslavia, up to the use of tactical special ammunition. Therefore - this is a factor that we are a country that still exists. This has moved into the media sphere as a fact of mutual, if not destruction, then a catastrophe of a planetary scale. This is now the status quo.
      2. -1
        13 December 2024 02: 19
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        but they have a stronger lever - uranium enrichment.
        This is not a lever, but a green stain on the forehead of the clerical regime. Iran will not be allowed to go nuclear, and if that requires regime change, it will happen.
        1. +2
          13 December 2024 02: 29
          Since 1979, the US has been demanding a regime change from Iran. I was in diapers - they demanded it, I went to kindergarten - they demanded it, they have been demanding it for 45 years. No, I understand that the US is not stupid and in general there is a global backstage and so on, but they have been demanding something for a long time. laughing
      3. 0
        15 December 2024 16: 53
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        Turkey and Azerbaijan should have their own specific model of mutual interests with us, but without a tug of war

        A tug of war is something out of science fiction. Ankara is playing in tandem with London, and Baku... Yes, by and large, Baku has its own interests as a priority. Baku has the largest diaspora of all the former republics, with powerful levers of influence on the Russian authorities in almost all regions of Russia. Plus, Baku wants to be at the forefront of the construction of the Great Turan, which brings it enormous economic and political benefits.
  16. +3
    12 December 2024 20: 25
    We can put an end to everything in Syria, the Jews destroyed all the heavy strategic weapons there, if ours leave the bases, then everything that remains there will also be liquidated, the country will not be allowed to rise again, the next batch will be Iran.
    1. 0
      13 December 2024 03: 02
      Quote: Damask
      The country will not be allowed to rise again

      And there is no more country there.
    2. +1
      13 December 2024 03: 10
      Let's say they will bite Iran hard. Maybe they will take on Iraq first and try to nullify Iranian influence there, and if there is no time, then Iran right away. But the second option is less effective than the first. True, it is spectacular and loud. The Persians will have to remember their school of courage. If they really want something more than PR.
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  18. 0
    15 December 2024 13: 58
    And who is to blame if we have a tendency to steal from the Kazakh government or embezzle the budget over politics and security?
  19. 0
    8 September 2025 18: 26
    We wasted so much effort, time and money in Syria, the command was incompetent, stupid and senseless!