Türkiye is increasing its influence at the expense of Russia

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Türkiye is increasing its influence at the expense of Russia

Quite a few lines have already been devoted to the advance of pro-Turkish Islamist militants and the rapid fall of Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria and the reasons why this happened, but much less attention has been paid to the consequences of the events that took place. And they are, in fact, far from being as optimistic as some experts and analysts write.

The obvious beneficiary of the Islamist coup that took place in Syria is Turkey, which takes full advantage of the fact that Russia's foreign policy influence is weakened by the military conflict in Ukraine, which is absorbing many resources. Over the past two years, Turkey has carried out several successful military-political actions - with its active support and secret participation, the Third Karabakh War was carried out, which ended with the liquidation of Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as the overthrow of the government of Bashar al-Assad, which will allow Turkey to annex new lands and put its puppet at the head of the "new Syria".



Both of these military-political actions, no matter what anyone says, were carried out against Russia's allies. And both of them ended in triumph for Turkey and its leader Recep Erdogan. Now Moscow, which has fallen into a certain degree of dependence on Turkey (through which, in particular, parallel imports are carried out), will find it much more difficult to put pressure on it, since its levers of influence are becoming fewer and fewer. But Turkey, on the contrary, can now exert ever greater influence and pressure on Moscow.

Syria's Future After the Coup


After the victory of radical Islamists in Syria, one thing is clear: we will not see the country in the form in which it has existed in recent years. Some things will be taken by Turkey, some by Israel (which is, in fact, concerned about the victory of Islamist militants, who are already promising to begin a “march” to the Promised Land in the future), and then there are the Kurds with their idea of ​​a Greater Kurdistan…

It is also unknown how Erdogan will behave once he has achieved his goals - will he decide to go to a big war against the Kurds, or will the Americans be able to stop him from this step, and we will again see some agreements, which, however, may not be very long-term. In general, the war in the Syrian sands is still far from over.

However, it is not only about borders – Syria will become another country where radical Islamists have won. The victory of jihadist (and in fact terrorist) groups will certainly mean the radical Islamization of another Middle Eastern country and, probably, the establishment of a jihadist regime in Damascus.

Moreover, the victory of the pro-Turkish jihadist groups means a weakening of Iran's influence in the region, which has already suffered several significant political defeats in recent times. Now Iran will no longer be able to normally supply Hezbollah in Lebanon, which has been half-defeated by Israel, since these supply routes will now be cut off.

If after the attack of Hamas militants on Israel (which obviously happened not without the participation of Iran) it seemed that Iran had strengthened its positions, and Tel Aviv, on the contrary, had lost them, now everything looks completely different. For example, here is what пишет Regarding the changing balance of power in the Middle East, Bloomberg:

"Israel was embroiled in a grueling, internationally unpopular war in Gaza. Its northern territories were depopulated by attacks from Lebanon's Hezbollah, Yemen's Houthis had ravaged Israel's port of Eilat by attacking ships in the Red Sea, and Iran was launching missiles и Drones on Israeli cities. But 14 months later, Hamas has been destroyed and its leaders killed, Hezbollah has suffered heavy losses and been forced to agree to a ceasefire. Iranian missiles have done little damage to Israel, but Israeli retaliatory strikes have crippled Iran's air defenses. And now Syria, the cornerstone of Iran's regional strategy, has fallen."

However, Iran's problems are Iran's problems, and they do not concern Russia. Therefore, let's move on to what this means for the Russian Federation.

How will what is happening affect Russia?


The fall of the Assad regime and the changed balance of power in the Middle East will most likely mean that the Russian Armed Forces will be forced to leave the region.

Russian presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that Russia's military presence in Khmeimim and Tartus is the subject of a "serious conversation" with the future Syrian authorities, but it seems unlikely that Turkey and the jihadist groups it controls will allow Russia to maintain a military presence in the region.

Moreover, even the withdrawal of the Russian military contingent could be problematic, since all communications are based on sea supplies through Novorossiysk to Tartus, as well as on supplies by air – and blocking the airspace and closing the straits under some plausible pretext is not a problem for Turkey.

Theoretically, Erdogan could even set some conditions for maintaining the Russian military base in Syria (which is unlikely), but he will certainly demand something in return. Now Turkey has more leverage over Russia. Erdogan has repeatedly demonstrated that he is ready to use the “Russian question” to improve his relations with the West (it is worth recalling the game with the approval of Finland’s and Sweden’s applications to NATO and the so-called “peace summit” in Switzerland), and the Syrian issue will certainly be used accordingly.

In general, despite the victories news Regarding the course of the SVO, it should be noted that the foreign policy balance of power has changed in Russia's favor over the past two years. NATO has moved even closer to Russia's borders, its influence in the Middle East has been lost, and its dependence on China, Turkey, and Arab countries has increased. By focusing on the military conflict in Ukraine, which is certainly important, Russia has nevertheless lost its influence in other regions.

In addition, attempts in the media sphere to demonstrate that Russia is a key player in Syria (although in reality this was not entirely true), and also has enormous influence in Africa (the Russia-Africa summits), created a picture in the minds of ordinary Russians that did not quite correspond to reality, which collapsed after the events in Syria and caused disappointment among many.

No, nothing catastrophic for Russia has happened with the fall of Syria, of course, since its influence in the Middle East was limited before. However, the blow to Moscow's political prestige has certainly been considerable. In addition, as has already been said above, there is a considerable probability of increased pressure from Turkey on Moscow, which has long dreamed of a "Great Turan".

I remember that in 2021, Erdogan received a map of the "Turkic world" as a gift from the leader of the Nationalist Movement Party of Turkey, Devlet Bahceli, on which the southern regions of Russia, as well as most of Siberia, were designated as part of the "Great Turan". At that time, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not find "anything shameful" in this, although it was, to put it mildly, an alarm bell...
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  1. + 11
    12 December 2024 04: 20
    I remember back in 2021, Erdogan presented Sergey Lavrov with a map of the "Turkic world", on which the southern regions of Russia, as well as most of Siberia, were designated as part of the "Great Turan". At that time, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not find "anything shameful" in this, although it was, to put it mildly, an alarm bell...

    Lavrov is certainly far from Kozyrev, but even further from Molotov, and Putin is not Stalin either...
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    2. + 17
      12 December 2024 09: 08
      . Vladimir_2U
      Lavrov is certainly far from Kozyrev, but even further from Molotov, and Putin is not Stalin either...


      Yes, it has become traditional that after failures Putin V.V. disappears from the information field. And if a few years ago the victory in Syria was presented as an achievement of the "great megastrategist" and the might of the Russian armed forces, now the media service explains it this way: "we didn't really want it" ...
      1. +4
        12 December 2024 11: 09
        "We didn't really want that"

        "And in general, they themselves are to blame"
      2. +7
        12 December 2024 14: 15
        Irresponsibility - does not want to report to anyone
        Ghosting - works when and how it wants
        Clip thinking - prefers quick reports, then doesn't remember anything about them
        Requires particularly comfortable conditions

        It seems our president is a zoomer, despite his age laughing
    3. 0
      12 December 2024 12: 17
      Who won and who lost in Syria will be seen in 5-10 years. But already now, we can say that its neighbors have lost. Instead of a more or less sane country, there will be Makhnovshchina on the borders. This will primarily hit Turkey. Firstly, refugees, secondly, money must now be invested in these territories. As for the Turkic world))) all its representatives from Perdogan need money. When the money runs out, the ideas of the Turkic world will run out)))
      1. +2
        12 December 2024 14: 17
        Previously, the Turks had Idlib and the Kurds on the borders with the same company. Has much changed for them?
        1. +2
          12 December 2024 15: 36
          Would you like to compare the area and population of Idlib and what has now fallen on Perdogan? Idlib was relatively peaceful because more or less normal living conditions were created there at Turkish expense. Now this needs to be done on half of Syria's territory, which is many times more expensive. And solve the problem of the Kurds, who are backed by the US, which is also not cheap. Does Perdogan have enough money for Central Asian parasites? They like to get paid there, but not so much to work)))
          1. 0
            12 December 2024 16: 16
            Idlib was relatively peaceful because, at Turkish expense, more or less normal living conditions were created there.
            Well, we'll help the Turks with resources and other things, the Syrians don't need much - they have electricity and water and that's already good. Plus all sorts of Emirates and Qataris. Do you really think that there are short-sighted fools sitting there? smile
            And solving the problem of the Kurds, who are backed by the US, is also not cheap.
            The US has screwed the Kurds many times. And they don't cause Turkey any particular problems, on the contrary - they pump out oil
            1. +2
              12 December 2024 20: 08
              Will we help or not - a big question. If there is any interest. No one will help just like that, out of love for the Syrian people, everyone will try to get some kind of profit. Do you think that Qatar and the Emirates are naive altruists, ready to help out of the kindness of their hearts?))) In 2011, Qatar had a very "tasty" option - a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean coast, now this is unlikely, Makhnovshchina will begin in the country.
              Who hasn't screwed the Kurds? But now, their interests objectively coincide. And what will happen later, well, for the Kurds - they still have to live to see it. Perdogan won't joke.
              1. -2
                12 December 2024 20: 47
                Whether we will help or not is a big question.
                So they wanted to help Assad, but the Americans threatened them with sanctions. For example, the monarchies are constantly rebuilding the Gaza Strip, for some reason, they supported Lebanon for a long time, until the same Americans banned it. Egypt is also, in fact, partially supported. I think the monarchies have some plans and extra money that they can spend so that there is no big mess in the neighboring countries, otherwise something bad will happen to them.
                everyone will try to get some kind of deal
                There are many options, for example, Syria has more phosphorites than Russia, and if oil can somehow be compensated for by electricity from various sources, then phosphorus fertilizers cannot be replaced by anything and they melt quite quickly.
                But now, their interests objectively coincide.
                I have no idea what the interests of the Americans are, the Kurds are sitting quietly and if anything happens, they will drive you deeper under the bunk.
                1. 0
                  12 December 2024 21: 22
                  The Gulf monarchies are not altruists, they will not throw money into a "bottomless pit". And the mail is drawing exactly this scenario - a war of all against all. Now everyone is smiling and making beautiful gestures, but tomorrow it will be necessary to establish a peaceful life to provide for the population - for this you need a lot of money, but there is none. The oil is with the Kurds (USA) and they will not give it up. What other sources of budget replenishment? The industry, as it was, has already died, with the exception of the production of Captagon))) phosphorites are not such a rare raw material, they can be bought in other countries. And the extraction and export, in war conditions. will make them "golden".
                  The mattress makers are already carrying out air strikes and artillery strikes on Turkish proxies. And Perdogan has already been warned about further escalation. Do you think he will go for further escalation, with the prospect of angering Trump so much that the plan to create a Great Kurdistan will move from the category of the very distant to the "near future".
                  1. -1
                    12 December 2024 22: 05
                    The Gulf monarchies are not altruists, they will not throw money into a "bottomless pit".
                    In general, monarchies are quite generous, they easily give away the budgets of the Russian Academy of Sciences for several years to various Cambridges, and feeding 10 million paupers accustomed to living without electricity is pennies for them, a couple of billions a year is enough.
                    war of all against all
                    I often imagine that a riot will break out and the Americans will no longer care about us and the Turks will be in a bad way. But something like that hasn't happened for 15 years, external circumstances won't give us peace and the Americans won't leave us alone request
                    What other sources of budget revenue are there?
                    yes, some five to seven billion a year will be enough, it's not that much money, the Syrians will go for 200 bucks to build Turkish dachas and Dubai skyscrapers instead of the Pakistanis. Simply because all the actors - Israel, the Kurds, the Turks and other bearded men - are under the same masters.
                    And Perdogan has already been warned about further escalation.
                    Well, it won't happen, the Kurds are sitting in Erbil and pushing oil to the Turks, the same quiet Kurds from Syria will push it
                    1. +1
                      12 December 2024 22: 13
                      Monarchies "load" money into England not just like that, but with benefit. And what benefit will they get from feeding the poor Syrians? They do not border Syria, for them this is not a primary problem.
                      How is Libya different from Syria? The moose is very small - there is not enough for everyone.
                      5 - 7 billion a year to minimally raise from its knees a country that has been at war for more than ten years - you are an optimist)))
                      For Perdogan, the Kurdish autonomies are a "beam in the eye" - they set a bad example for the Turkish Kurds. He needs to close this topic.
                      1. -2
                        12 December 2024 23: 07
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        And what benefit will they get from feeding the poor Syrians?

                        To have an army of paupers ready to do anything. And so that there would be no problems at the borders.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        They don't border Syria, it's not a priority issue for them.

                        Yes, right there, through the deserted Jordan, the Saudi desert begins.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        How is Libya different from Syria?

                        Libya is noticeably further away from them
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        - 7 billion a year to minimally raise the country from its knees

                        Why should they get up off their knees? It's enough to do a little better than yesterday, bring in diesel fuel so that the power plants work 24 hours a day, and not 2 hours.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        For Perdogan, the Kurdish autonomies are a "beam in the eye" - they set a bad example for the Turkish Kurds.

                        and he's been living with this log for a long time, how long have the Kurds been sitting in Erbil? And nothing, they somehow live together
                      2. 0
                        13 December 2024 00: 17
                        And who told you that the Syrians, having received a crust of bread, would run to fight for someone in their joy? Somehow, such reckless actions have not been noticed by them.
                        Almost a thousand kilometers of the Jordanian desert, then almost the same amount of the Saudi desert - isn't that far?
                        I meant Libya, in terms of the mess, and in terms of its distance from the Persian Gulf.
                        You can't get by with just diesel fuel. Everything needs to be restored, including power lines. And that's all money - money - money)))
                        The Kurds have been sitting on those lands for a long time. But everything has a habit of ending. Somewhere sooner, somewhere later.
                      3. 0
                        13 December 2024 01: 25
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        And who told you that the Syrians, having received a crust of bread, would run to fight for someone in their joy? Somehow, such reckless actions have not been noticed by them.

                        economic necessity, you can recruit a hundred or two thousand, even from Assad's army
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Almost a thousand kilometers of the Jordanian desert, then almost the same amount of the Saudi desert - isn't that far?

                        Not really, if you let it slide, then in five years people will start driving Toyotas in a few days
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        Everything needs to be restored, including power lines. And all this is money - money - money)))

                        there the local population will do 80% of the work themselves for a hundred per month, if apartments in Moscow are expensive, it does not mean that building it is really that difficult and expensive, it is just that there are too many greedy bosses.
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        The Kurds have been sitting on those lands for a long time. But everything has a habit of ending.

                        well and they will sit quietly. Or as the Americans decide, the Kurds themselves have zero independence
          2. +1
            12 December 2024 19: 43
            There is no need to underestimate Erdogan. The hen pecks grain by grain. The results are obvious.
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    5. +1
      12 December 2024 12: 45
      Well, not that far. It is enough to look at the results of Lavrov's leadership of the Foreign Ministry. The term "Russian Foreign Ministry" has become a household word.
    6. AAK
      +3
      12 December 2024 13: 52
      Well, the Great Grandmaster has "combined" himself to the point that he is now simultaneously in time trouble and in zugzwang, and then cowardly sycophantic lackeys like Naryshkin, for some unknown reason, have started beating the timpani in victory at the wrong time...
  2. -2
    12 December 2024 04: 41
    However, it seems unlikely that Türkiye and the jihadist groups it controls will allow Russia to maintain a military presence in the region.

    Turkey is against the Kurds. The US and Israel are for the Kurds. All Islamist groups are against Israel. Qatar is pulling a gas line to Europe (it has no opinion of its own), the US is against it, Israel is for it + it will start developing gas fields nearby for this business, which will again step on Turkey. Refugees will be driven out of Europe, but they will not remain in the transit country of Turkey. Where will they flee from the terror of Islamist groups, again to Turkey. Israel said that the Dutch Heights + suburbs of Damascus are its, here all the Arabs will be against it.
    Russia will most likely lose its bases (but there are options, for example Libya), Iran has lost direct influence on Syria. But both we and Iran have just gotten out of this sandbox, but the beneficiaries are up to their necks in it.

    But Euronews and all sorts of bloggers are screaming that we have lost everything, we have screwed everything, we have...
    1. + 10
      12 December 2024 09: 41
      Quote: bya965
      But Euronews and all sorts of bloggers are screaming that we have lost everything, we have screwed everything, we have...

      I don't think that when introducing troops into Syria almost 10 years ago, our leadership expected such a shameful ending. I don't think that this ending justifies the death of hundreds of our guys in Syria. I don't think that Russia's reputational losses in the world and in the post-Soviet space correspond to Russia's interests. I don't think that the billions spent on the military operation in Syria have any intelligible justification.
      1. -4
        12 December 2024 14: 33
        Quote: Silhouette
        I don't think that... I don't think that....

        And I'm just thinking. And then, based on your reasoning, one can come to the conclusion that the army is not needed. That's 6% of the budget. For comparison, in the USSR it was 25%. And in general, we were wrong to kill terrorists, they were killing our guys.
    2. +1
      12 December 2024 15: 39
      We will be able to talk about who lost how much in Syria in about 5 years, when the current beneficiaries also “invest” in these territories and what they will get out of it.
      1. +1
        12 December 2024 19: 49
        In five years, you won't even be discussing this. Who invests how much is not our concern now. Believe me, they will screw everyone and everything that is there, both on the ground and underground.
        1. +1
          12 December 2024 20: 02
          What I am saying is that it is too early to draw conclusions, since the process is just beginning.
  3. +9
    12 December 2024 04: 53
    In general, despite the victorious news regarding the progress of the NWO, it should be noted that the foreign policy balance of power has changed in Russia's favor over the past two years. NATO has come even closer to Russia's borders, its influence in the Middle East has been lost, and its dependence on China, Turkey, and Arab countries has increased. By focusing on the military conflict in Ukraine, which is certainly important, Russia has nevertheless lost its influence in other regions.
    ...
    back in 2021, Erdogan presented Sergei Lavrov with a map of the "Turkic world", on which the southern regions of Russia, as well as most of Siberia, were designated as part of the "Great Turan". At that time, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not find "anything shameful" in this, although it was, to put it mildly, an alarm bell

    How many more "brotherly sultan" will stick "yataghans of friendship" into the back is unknown.
    But, IMHO, a good guy like the Sultan should also build nuclear power plants on credit, sell him grain/gas cheaper, or at least make him a "gas hub". Otherwise, the Sultan will get upset and start working according to the above-mentioned map...
    1. +3
      12 December 2024 05: 07
      Quote: Wildcat
      and will start working on the above mentioned map....

      As our Guarantor described the Sultan, he is the most adequate of the leaders winked And the Sultan announced that he and Putin are the coolest guys in politics smile
  4. -8
    12 December 2024 05: 15
    We need to show them a map with Russian waters of the Black Sea and liberated Constantinople.
    1. +8
      12 December 2024 10: 12
      Well, these will not be scary fantasies, unlike Turkey’s influence on Islamic countries.
  5. +3
    12 December 2024 05: 24
    The following countries have officially declared the recognition of Crimea as Russian: Venezuela, Nicaragua, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, Cuba. And now probably minus Syria, if only because Ukraine supported the anti-Assad forces. And now whose side will Syria be on? And how will this support be expressed? Of course, with the fall of Syria, nothing catastrophic for Russia, of course, has happened... yet. Because Russia's influence in the Middle East was limited before. As they say, Maxim died and to hell with him... Yeah. And now, who of the Maxims is next...
  6. +6
    12 December 2024 05: 57
    I remember back in 2021, Erdogan presented Sergey Lavrov with a map of the "Turkic world", on which the southern regions of Russia, as well as most of Siberia, were designated as part of the "Great Turan". At that time, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not find "anything shameful" in this, although it was, to put it mildly, an alarm bell...

    This is not even a bell), this is a bell put on the head and they are hitting it with sledgehammers. But the grandmaster is calm, the main thing in a chess game is to drag the pawn to the edge of the field, and then to the queen, and let's chop the opponent's checkers, the main thing is that we are lucky with the dice, and with trumps in our hands...
  7. + 11
    12 December 2024 06: 07
    Quote: parusnik
    The following countries have officially declared the recognition of Crimea as Russian: Venezuela, Nicaragua, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, Cuba. And now probably minus Syria, if only because Ukraine supported the anti-Assad forces. And now whose side will Syria be on? And how will this support be expressed? Of course, with the fall of Syria, nothing catastrophic for Russia, of course, has happened... yet. Because Russia's influence in the Middle East was limited before. As they say, Maxim died and to hell with him... Yeah. And now, who of the Maxims is next...

    If this is not a disaster for Russia, then I don’t know what you mean by disaster!?
    1. +4
      12 December 2024 06: 35
      What's bothering you? The author writes that nothing terrible has happened, so what if we lost Syria, Russia's authority in the sublunary world has increased... probably. No, not in the sublunary world, in the multipolar world. Now, a queue will form to ask for help from Russia. Another foreign policy success, and in general, Assad himself is to blame. Calm down, everything is fine, the author believes in it and we believe in it together with him... I'll put a smiley for you. smile If you don’t understand why I installed it, that’s your problem. hi
      1. +6
        12 December 2024 09: 49
        That's right. With every failure of our foreign policy, we become stronger. Rising inflation strengthens the ruble. The capture of Kursk Oblast brings victory closer. The visa regime with Uzbekistan facilitates integration. Who's next in line for achievements?... Kazakhstan?... Abkhazia?
  8. +3
    12 December 2024 06: 08
    Türkiye is strengthening its influence not at the expense of Russia, but by influencing the surrounding reality in its own interests.
    1. 0
      12 December 2024 12: 47
      How is that not at our expense? They are watching closely, taking advantage of Russia's weakness. It is at our expense that they are developing.
  9. -1
    12 December 2024 06: 24
    Quote: Victor Biryukov
    will allow Turkey to annex new lands and put its puppet at the head of the “new Syria”
    This will never happen. The Arab population of Syria, whether Shia or Sunni, will never allow the country to be governed by a president of Turkic origin.
  10. +9
    12 December 2024 07: 22
    I have clearly formed the conviction that our country’s leadership is 3-5 years late in making strategic decisions, both within the country and in foreign policy. And the question? What is the reason: the dementia of the leadership or the massive dominance of agents of influence in the Kremlin towers.
    1. +8
      12 December 2024 07: 43
      the feeblemindedness of the leadership or the massive dominance of agents of influence in the Kremlin towers.

      Both, agents of influence appoint feeble-minded leaders.
      1. +9
        12 December 2024 08: 16
        Both, agents of influence appoint feeble-minded leaders.
        And so for more than 30 years and why is that?
        1. + 12
          12 December 2024 10: 18
          Lately they have been saying that it is because "I didn't have a bicycle" in the sense that the constitution was not of the right system. And now the constitution has been "corrected" by the whole world, but for some reason the "stone flower" is not working for Danila the master again. The bicycle has appeared, but it is obviously without a seat.
          1. +4
            12 December 2024 10: 21
            The bicycle appeared, but it apparently had no seat.
            Rather, without a chain and pedals. But with wheels..
  11. +6
    12 December 2024 07: 39
    Yes, lately you understand that Owl is already tired and calmly approached the globe, decided to stretch herself onto the globe. There is nothing to be done.
  12. +4
    12 December 2024 08: 14
    No, with the fall of Syria, nothing catastrophic happened for Russia, of course, since its influence in the Middle East was limited before.
    So, nonsense, an empty matter, like in the old song: "Your husband, beautiful marquise, found out that he had ruined himself and you, he could not bear such a surprise and shot himself that very hour. Having fallen dead by the stove, he knocked over two candles, the candles fell on the carpet, and he blazed up like a fire, the weather was windy, your castle burned to the ground, the fire burned the whole estate, and engulfed the stable in it, the stable was locked, and in it the mare died, and otherwise, beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine!" (c) And not really Syria, it was a friend, Russians, in Syria, for permanent residence, did not settle, not to mention the more friendly Israel, for example, Chubais, did not go to his dear Syria, for citizenship, but to the unloved Israel and still received it .. But Syria is a link in a chain of unpleasant events for Russia as a whole, which we will learn about in the New Year.
    1. + 11
      12 December 2024 08: 35
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      But Syria is a link in a chain of unpleasant events for Russia as a whole, which we will learn about in the New Year.
      The attitude of the party and the government towards the fall of Assad has already been formed, Iran and for some reason Israel lost terribly, we ultimately won, since all the goals of the Syrian operation were achieved, we don’t really need the bases, thanks to the wisdom of the leadership we were able to palm off another conflict zone on the Americans, for many years. I think you are right, in principle the template for future difficult decisions is ready.
      1. +7
        12 December 2024 09: 43
        Yes, we won in Syria, once again, now we will leave with dignity. The bandits will know how to cross the border at the river. smile
    2. +2
      12 December 2024 16: 34
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      But Syria is a link in a chain of unpleasant events for Russia as a whole, which we will learn about in the New Year.

      Sorry, I couldn't resist..
  13. +2
    12 December 2024 08: 31
    In my opinion, it is premature to call Mr. Erdogan the main beneficiary of all these Syrian events, and he will now have a lot of big problems with those who in the West have now begun to be called not Islamic terrorists, but progressive jihadists, or friendly Islamists.
  14. +2
    12 December 2024 09: 04
    The fall of the Assad regime and the changed balance of power in the Middle East will most likely mean that the Russian Armed Forces will be forced to leave the region.

    The influence of the USSR, and then Russia in the Middle East began to decline in the early 70s and gradually continued with small rebounds. When Sadat came to power in Egypt instead of Nasser, the USSR lost influence in Egypt. This country concluded the Camp David Accords with Israel. Our advisers left Egypt. Then our opponents stirred up trouble in Libya. Although, this is more like North Africa. But this was squeezing our country out of the Mediterranean region. And let's add the war in Iraq here. Also a stone in our direction. Syria is a continuation of the well-thought-out US policy in the Middle East.
  15. + 13
    12 December 2024 09: 26
    And our propaganda turned 180 degrees in one day, the terrorists immediately became an armed opposition, it turned out that we didn’t need Syria.
    And the same thing will happen when they sign a peace treaty - those who were screaming that we must fight until victory will immediately “change their shoes” and start screaming that everything is right, we must save the lives of our citizens.
    1. +5
      12 December 2024 10: 04
      they will immediately "change their shoes" and start squealing that everything is right, we need to save the lives of our citizens
      Yeah, and give the example of Soviet Russia, how they did the right thing by concluding the Brest Peace, although before that, this peace was called shameful... laughing And so it will be..
      1. 0
        12 December 2024 10: 09
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Yeah, and give the example of Soviet Russia, how they did the right thing by concluding the Brest Peace, although before that, this peace was called shameful

        Not shameful, but obscene, as V.I. Lenin himself called it, and who will give an example?
        1. +5
          12 December 2024 10: 19
          Yes, you will justify the peace and cite the Brest peace treaty as an example of how everything was done correctly then. But is there a difference between obscene and shameful?
          1. 0
            12 December 2024 10: 37
            Quote: kor1vet1974
            Is there a difference between obscene and shameful?

            You should have asked Lenin about this.
            1. +2
              12 December 2024 12: 12
              And let's keep quiet about the fact that the Central Rada gave Ukraine to the Germans? It was at its instigation that the German offensive against Ukraine began.
              1. +1
                12 December 2024 12: 45
                Quote: kor1vet1974
                At her instigation, the German offensive into Ukraine began.

                I completely agree - by signing a peace treaty with Germany in early February 1918, the Central Rada actually allowed German intervention on Ukrainian territory.
                In words, the Germans recognized Ukrainian independence, but in reality - complete economic dependence on Germany.
                1. +3
                  12 December 2024 12: 58
                  The Germans and Austrians occupy Ukraine, the Romanians occupy Bessarabia with the permission of General Shcherbachev, commander of the Romanian Front, in order to somehow remain in the negotiating format, legal entities of the Odessa Soviet Republic and the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic are created. Which are not part of Soviet Russia. For obvious reasons. How can they resist. In the North-West, the red detachments of the curtain under the command of General Parsky.. And the forces are clearly not equal, in addition, the white knights raise their heads, they do not care that the Soviet detachments are bleeding, they do not run to enroll in the red detachments, but on the contrary, they stab in the back.. According to the terms of the Brest Peace, the fleet must be surrendered to the Germans, the Bolshevik crews sank the ships in the roadstead in Novorossiysk, under the signal I am dying, but I do not surrender! And the rest went to Sevastopol, surrendered to the Germans and ended their journey in Bizerte. And what was the Soviet Republic to do in this situation? Yes, to conclude, in the words of Lenin, a shameful peace, on difficult conditions.
            2. 0
              12 December 2024 12: 41
              It was necessary to ask Nikolai II, praised by Lenin's enemies, why he first surrendered to the Germans the territories where more than 20 million of his subjects lived, and then abandoned Russia and the people. And the Bolsheviks, who from the very beginning were against him plunging Russia and the people into the First World War to help France and Serbia, had to clean up after him.
              1. +1
                12 December 2024 14: 46
                why did he surrender the territories to the Germans first
                surrendered in Syria, then in battles they lost territories to the Germans with their not weak armies. And then, by the same logic, Lenin surrendered no less territories and population to the Poles.
                he plunged Russia and the people into the First World War to help France and Serbia
                you'd think the triple alliance would have let us sit it out quietly
                I had to clean up after him
                and so, did you clean up the mess?
  16. +5
    12 December 2024 12: 44
    The loyal Yeltsinists, represented by V. Putin, are simply continuing the policy of the 90s. The difference is that in the chaos of the 90s, it was not customary to lick the leadership, and often no one tried to keep the truth quiet. In the 2000s, the image in the media was sterilized, and rabid propaganda began to burn out the brains of ordinary people, as a result, ordinary people simply stopped believing in the authorities. But the Yeltsinists do not understand that at the moment "X" there will be an insignificant percentage of the population willing to defend them (the Yeltsinists). In 2022, there was hope that they finally understood something at the top, but no.
  17. +1
    12 December 2024 14: 26
    Quote: parusnik
    What's bothering you? The author writes that nothing terrible has happened, so what if we lost Syria, Russia's authority in the sublunary world has increased... probably. No, not in the sublunary world, in the multipolar world. Now, a queue will form to ask for help from Russia. Another foreign policy success, and in general, Assad himself is to blame. Calm down, everything is fine, the author believes in it and we believe in it together with him... I'll put a smiley for you. smile If you don’t understand why I installed it, that’s your problem. hi

    What makes you think that I don’t recognize your transparent irony!?
  18. +2
    12 December 2024 18: 31
    Yuri Ivanovich Drozdov (September 19, 1925, Minsk - June 21, 2017, Moscow) - Soviet intelligence officer, Deputy Chief of the First Main Directorate of the KGB of the USSR - Chief of the Illegal Intelligence Directorate of the First Main Directorate of the KGB of the USSR (1979-1991), Major General, warned in his books long ago that Russia would be torn to pieces. Books. Yu. I. Drozdov. Notes of the Chief of Illegal Intelligence. Yu. I. Drozdov. Fiction excluded. Not only he warned about this, but also many Soviet military leaders, such as Akhromeyev and a number of others...
  19. -1
    13 December 2024 01: 19
    strengthens!? In the nomination "clown of the year", by a large margin in the last days of the outgoing year, the prize was snatched from Zelensky's hands by Erdogan! What kind of descendant of Ataturk has to be so clever to curry favor with the Jews!? He maintained an army for so many years, prepared for six months, overthrew Assad in a week, captured Syria... and gave everything to the Jews!
    1. 0
      13 December 2024 01: 47
      Quote: bulbash70
      Ataturk's descendant must be so clever

      Erdogan is as much a descendant of Ataturk as Yeltsin is a descendant of Stalin.
      1. 0
        14 December 2024 00: 12
        It wasn't me who appointed him. He said so himself.
  20. 0
    13 December 2024 02: 27
    The Anglo-Saxon colonial administration of Russia is consistently leading the country and its people to destruction in a war with NATO and Japan.
    In this war, the US/UK cannot ensure a sufficient concentration of troops in the eastern direction, and accordingly, Turkey begins to dream of capturing or intercepting the eastern regions of Russia.
    It is probably assumed that the colonial administration of Russia will use its nuclear weapons to deter China from such a takeover. Turkey will find itself in a privileged position due to its membership in NATO.
    So, the map is eloquent, but it is not connected with Syria, but with plans for the upcoming division of Russian territory after its destruction along with its people.
    You and I - the former "great" people of Russia, turned into sheep being led to the slaughter, indifferently watching in the comfort of our television as our government prepares our destruction, and we ourselves work in this machine created by the Anglo-Saxons since 1991... Law-abiding citizens.
    We should look back and look into the eyes of our ancestors from the Immortal Regiment. What do you think they would tell us? What advice would they give?
  21. 0
    17 December 2024 06: 13
    Great Turan Erdogan is gathering while Ukraine and Russia are f... laughing
  22. 0
    19 December 2024 19: 41
    You read and sometimes it seems that you have ended up in the enemy's rear? 90% of pessimists on the site.
    Are they all pensioners?
  23. 0
    21 December 2024 12: 16
    Why are you so worried about Turkey, you need to think about your homeland, build, educate, develop, and not explain that things are bad here because... we are guilty of something... and the list goes on. And if you continue in the same spirit, then China will be the first to occupy, if it feels that Russia is coming to an end, everyone will climb, but for now they sit and watch. I pretend to be the top, the bottom is waiting... great power is faith in a just king.
  24. 0
    21 December 2024 12: 20
    Quote: Vik Ganz
    You read and sometimes it seems that you have ended up in the enemy's rear? 90% of pessimists on the site.
    Are they all pensioners?

    Maybe it won't be difficult for you to outline the first steps that will solve all the country's problems within a certain period of time. I really want to get acquainted with it, optimism is power.
  25. 0
    21 December 2024 12: 24
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    The Anglo-Saxon colonial administration of Russia is consistently leading the country and its people to destruction in a war with NATO and Japan.
    In this war, the US/UK cannot ensure a sufficient concentration of troops in the eastern direction, and accordingly, Turkey begins to dream of capturing or intercepting the eastern regions of Russia.

    Can you translate into Russian, "Anglo-Saxon colonial administration of Russia", and what kind of evil creatures are these, do they even have names or are they amorphous creatures?
  26. 0
    21 December 2024 12: 33
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    And so for more than 30 years and why is that?

    That's how. and some thought that it all started in the 30s, with the executions of the most devoted. smart and faithful and they offered to vote from the proposed list. so that it was already impossible to choose, and therefore to influence, so to speak, the true successors of the sower Stalin, sprouted finally. The great sitting and fear of everything and everyone who is smarter than him, led to a logical continuation. What is your layer in the form of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation worth, as the bard sang, "he ate from my palm" (bourgeois). The Greatest killed many outstanding from the Russian gene pool, Vavilov was a geneticist, well, how could he threaten your idiot, oh yes, the satraps overdid it, it happens, and now the investigation has begun.