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Commander-in-Chief of the Navy: Russia can create squadrons in the Indian and Pacific Oceans

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Commander-in-Chief of the Navy: Russia can create squadrons in the Indian and Pacific Oceans



Russia can create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian oceans on a permanent basis. About this in an interview with the TV channel "Star" said the commander in chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov.

V. Chirkov recalled that stories The USSR Navy already had experience when fleet there were squadrons in the Pacific and Indian oceans. According to the admiral, if necessary, the leadership of the naval forces "will offer the government and the president to create operational formations there on an ongoing basis."

V. Chirkov also said that the group that the Navy will create in the Mediterranean Sea will consist of 5-6 ships, which will be managed through the command of the Black Sea Fleet.

Recall that at the beginning of the week, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the need to form in the Mediterranean Sea an operational connection of the Navy on an ongoing basis.
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  1. lvn321
    lvn321 18 March 2013 06: 01
    -4
    Will create from what? Where are the ships? Base where? Empty concussion.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 18 March 2013 06: 05
      +1
      And you, I'm sorry, are sure that the article was understood?

      Russia can create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian oceans on a permanent basis. Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, said this in an interview with the Zvezda TV channel.

      Enough ships, don’t worry.

      Hello to everyone. hi
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 18 March 2013 06: 29
        +1
        Quote: Vanek
        Russia can create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian oceans on a permanent basis. About this in an interview with the TV channel "Star" said the commander in chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov.

        Enough ships, don’t worry.

        Comrades, let’s guess what ships, submarines can enter (meaning type and class) into squadrons in the Pacific and Indian Ocean?
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 18 March 2013 06: 32
          +1
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          let’s tell fortune


          On the coffee ...........

          Do you need it? Well, a couple of those, a couple of others. How is the difference now if there are no bases yet?

          Maksim hi
          1. redwolf_13
            redwolf_13 18 March 2013 07: 11
            +1
            Can you explain. Create "to create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian Oceans on a permanent basis." And the Pacific Fleet is no longer considered a permanent basis. Or did they decide to sell the Far East, and in exchange for this they get one port for the Pacific squadron. Which will display the flag on the Pacific and Indian oceans. Or all the same, the commander-in-chief does not know which fleets are under his command. Or are they so small that they cannot be called a fleet. ????? Or maybe Chirkov fell into insanity and thinks that the year is 1885 ??? Or was it not Chirkov, but a man like him who misled the journalists ????
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 18 March 2013 07: 15
              0
              Quote: redwolf_13
              And the Pacific Fleet is no longer considered a permanent basis. Or did they decide to sell the Far East


              From extreme to extreme!

              Quote: redwolf_13
              Can you explain


              Is the Pacific Fleet limited to only one Far East? (In your)

              Explain.
            2. tronin.maxim
              tronin.maxim 18 March 2013 07: 19
              +1
              Quote: redwolf_13
              Can you explain. Create "to create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian Oceans on a permanent basis." And the Pacific Fleet is no longer considered a permanent basis

              I'll try to explain! The Pacific Fleet is responsible for interests in the Pacific Ocean, but in order not to drive the entire fleet, operational squadrons of 8-10 ships + 1 or 2 submarines came up (correct if I'm wrong). They change each other for a certain time.
              1. redwolf_13
                redwolf_13 18 March 2013 07: 44
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                And before that they didn’t? I dare to upset you in the interests of Pacific Fleet includes the Indian and Pacific Oceans. For this, 2 OCEAN fleets of Pacific Fleet and Northern Fleet were built. On an ongoing basis, there were 2 operational units covering the Mediterranean Sea and parts of the Indian Ocean. The Pacific Fleet bases were in Cuba, Vietnam, etc. What is an operational squadron I know.
                1. bddrus
                  bddrus 18 March 2013 08: 39
                  0
                  in Soviet times, there were also Pacific Fleet and opesk in the Indian and Pacific Ocean and did not sell anything to the Far East
            3. ruton
              ruton 18 March 2013 13: 24
              +2
              In 1967-1971, four operational squadrons were formed in the USSR Navy with the following areas of responsibility:
              5-I operational squadron - the Mediterranean Sea;
              7-I operational squadron - the Atlantic Ocean;
              8-I operational squadron - the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf;
              10th operational squadron - Pacific Ocean.
              By 2005, they were all disbanded.
              hi
          2. scrack
            scrack 18 March 2013 08: 56
            0
            Well, maybe they will agree with Vietnam and India on the creation of bases
            1. tun1313
              tun1313 18 March 2013 09: 04
              0
              With India, it is unlikely that she is a very vigorous power, except to annoy the Chinese comrades.
      2. Armata
        Armata 18 March 2013 08: 01
        +4
        Greetings to all.
        Quote: Vanek
        Enough ships, don’t worry.

        Ivan, if you count the tankers and tugs then it can be. But think about what the grouping will include?
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 18 March 2013 08: 51
          +4
          Quote: Mechanic
          if you count tankers and tugs, then maybe

          Good people will help out. old BDK, and there Mistral ripen?
          That's probably all that our Navy can actually offer!
          Well, another three new frigates and a pair of multipurpose nuclear submarines for each of the maritime theaters!
          1. Armata
            Armata 18 March 2013 08: 56
            +2
            Quote: Arberes
            Good people will help out. old BDK, and there Mistral ripen?
            By the way, yes, you are most likely right. Surely it is there pezhiki and can only come in handy.
            Quote: Arberes
            Well, another three new frigates and a pair of multipurpose nuclear submarines for each of the maritime theaters!
            Well, the nuclear submarines have slightly different tasks. Do they lie there will glow. But about the three frigates. Yes, you are my optimist smile Sorry for the glitches so far I can not plus. But koment good
            1. Arberes
              Arberes 18 March 2013 09: 01
              +4
              Yes, it's okay Dear!
              I myself can’t plus yet, I’m still young! hi
              Well, for the nuclear submarine, I think at least for the "BATONCHIK", would it not hurt?
              My thoughts on the future in the coming 10 years!
              1. Armata
                Armata 18 March 2013 09: 11
                +3
                Quote: Arberes
                My thoughts on the future in the coming 10 years!

                Exactly. Rogozin said such a pace of construction that we will go to 20 ship per month before the 1,25 year. laughing He would have to pull up the math, and leave the rhetoric a bit aside.
            2. ruton
              ruton 18 March 2013 13: 20
              +1
              Comrade Mechanic, the original text was as follows):
              The grouping of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea will consist of five to six ships. According to RIA Novosti, this was announced by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, speaking on March 17 on the Zvezda TV channel.

              According to him, "up to five or six ships should be permanently in the Mediterranean Sea, control should be carried out through the command of the Black Sea Fleet. The group will be based on ships of the first rank, that is, frigates and cruisers. In addition, it will include support ships. ", - the agency notes.

              Now there is a coordination of documents regulating the work of the connection and the organizational and staff structure of the group.

              Admiral V. Chirkov also said that "if necessary, the naval command will propose to the country's leadership to create on a permanent basis operational ship formations in the Pacific and Indian oceans - following the example of the Mediterranean," RIA Novosti reports.

              The commander-in-chief noted that "while there is a need to create such a connection in the Mediterranean, and then - depending on the situation."

              But God forbid I don’t understand what kind of cruisers we are talking about ?? Well, "Moscow" is understandable, but what else ??? request
              1. Armata
                Armata 18 March 2013 18: 14
                +1
                Quote: ruton
                But God forbid I don’t understand what kind of cruisers we are talking about ?? Well, "Moscow" is understandable, but what else ???
                Yah? You find at least a word in my comment about "Moscow" Or "Peter the Great". To whom is the question in general? And what class of ships will be in the squadron? Dedicate us dark ones.
              2. saturn.mmm
                saturn.mmm 18 March 2013 21: 08
                +1
                Quote: ruton
                But God forbid I don’t understand what kind of cruisers we are talking about ?? Well, "Moscow" is understandable, but what else ???

                This is how the Aurora is being repaired.
          2. tun1313
            tun1313 18 March 2013 09: 06
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            Enough to cover Mistral?
            1. Arberes
              Arberes 18 March 2013 09: 10
              +2
              Quote: tun1313

              Enough to cover Mistral?

              Well, it depends on what tasks will be set for him and what the situation will be in this region.
              If you show the flag and look for boats of potential "friends", then probably a couple of frigates behind your back.
              Well, if a serious mess appears, then I don’t even want to think !!!
              1. tun1313
                tun1313 18 March 2013 09: 23
                +1
                Yes, there are enough nuclear cellars in the region and without us.
              2. Armata
                Armata 18 March 2013 09: 42
                +1
                Quote: Arberes
                If you show the flag and look for boats of potential "friends", then probably a couple of frigates behind your back.
                Well, at least 1 BOD must be attached to a pair of frigates (or rather, vice versa). Well, if so then look how the Yankees demonstrate their flag. They even prefer to drive pirates in droves.
                1. Arberes
                  Arberes 18 March 2013 09: 57
                  +4
                  Quote: Mechanic
                  They even prefer to drive pirates in droves.

                  Yes, these guys can afford such a pleasure; - till!
                  Usya hope for sequester!
  2. lvn321
    lvn321 18 March 2013 06: 03
    +2
    With the same success, it is possible to declare the creation of military bases on the moon, Mars and on the planet Eridan.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 18 March 2013 06: 26
      +3
      Quote: lvn321
      bases on the moon, Mars and on the planet Eridan


      And what the hell is not joking. smile
      1. queen
        queen 18 March 2013 06: 33
        +2
        + And this thought came to me. As they say
        Moscow was not built in a day)
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 March 2013 07: 05
          +1
          Quote: regin
          + And this thought came to me

          It is a pity that such a thought took so long to reach Moscow.
          Quote: regin
          .as they say
          Moscow was not built in a day

          Well, yes, you can’t build it. First, everything was broken, now you have to restore it.
          1. queen
            queen 18 March 2013 07: 11
            +1
            And they had nothing left to do, excitement not only at sea, but also among ordinary people)
    2. tun1313
      tun1313 18 March 2013 09: 09
      0
      Quote: lvn321
      With the same success, you can declare the creation of military bases on the moon, Mars and the planet Eridan

      Yes, but digging longer ...
  3. queen
    queen 18 March 2013 06: 11
    0
    That's great, I suspected that it was not in vain that we were purchasing the MiG-29K. Kuzya and Vicki would carry out exercises. Our truth would be to go there)))))
  4. fenix57
    fenix57 18 March 2013 06: 38
    +1
    I do not understand, but in the Pacific Ocean, that there is nothing (rhetorical since I live in Primorye). The Pacific Fleet of Russia, as part of the Navy and the Russian Armed Forces as a whole, is a means of ensuring Russia's military security in the Asia-Pacific region.



    To accomplish its tasks, the Pacific Fleet includes strategic missile submarines, multipurpose nuclear and diesel submarines, surface ships for operations in the ocean and near sea zones, naval missile, anti-submarine and fighter aircraft, ground forces, and parts of land and coastal troops . .
    Quote: lvn321
    the creation of military bases on the moon, Mars and on the planet Eridan.

    And it will be, give time ....
    1. redwolf_13
      redwolf_13 18 March 2013 07: 16
      0
      I thought so too wink That Toph should cover both the Pacific and Indian Oceans. But We were wrong. Although no militia was renamed the police and Cherkov would rename the fleet to "naval squadrons". Glamurninko so "Commander of the ESCADROY" or "OPERATIVE compound". And not the commander of the fleet, the fleet of which is incomprehensible to them.
  5. horoh
    horoh 18 March 2013 06: 59
    0
    Can? Need to create !!! And faster and more !!!
    1. redwolf_13
      redwolf_13 18 March 2013 07: 22
      -1
      What to create ??? You decide. The Russian Federation has 4 fleets. For 70 years, from the composition of the fleet’s ships, they have been creating operational units on an ongoing basis to demonstrate the flag at a certain point in the world's oceans and support political decisions of the country's leadership. The fleet needs to be updated in service are the elderly without dock repair. The fleet will soon sink by the pier itself. Already there are no slipways, no docks, no factories that will be able to fully ensure the complete repair of ships
  6. queen
    queen 18 March 2013 07: 48
    0
    We need to be everywhere, since we, unlike the "nation" of aliens and evil amers, do not deliver or impose a democracy tied to a bomb. We need to make them think (although this is almost impossible)
  7. TRex
    TRex 18 March 2013 08: 39
    0
    And what is "alive" at the Pacific Fleet? Who knows, tell me ... Only the truth
    ... I heard about the state of the "strategic missile carriers" rotting at the quays in Kamchatka from primary sources.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 March 2013 09: 18
      0
      TRex "And what is" alive "at the Pacific Fleet? Who knows, tell me ... Why do you need it? We are fine. Here is a detailed answer from a specialist !!!!
      fenix57 "To accomplish the assigned tasks, the Pacific Fleet includes strategic missile submarines, multipurpose nuclear and diesel submarines, surface ships for operations in the ocean and near sea zones, naval missile-carrying, anti-submarine and fighter aircraft, ground forces, units of land and coastal troops. "
      See how everything is in order. Everything is. Everything is great. We have a fleet in the same order as never before in its history.
      TRex "About the state of" strategic missile carriers "rotting at the quays in Kamchatka, I heard from the primary sources .."
      I remember the media scandal when the boat commander took command of the Pacific Fleet. He then spoke of two combat-ready nuclear missile carriers.
  8. afire
    afire 18 March 2013 08: 39
    +6
    Friends, tell me, and even those who are dissatisfied with something, -
    What other state is thinking of creating such groups now?
    Who can afford to create such groups?
    Look around, everyone has a crisis, lack of money, and we have money and they are sent for the good of the fatherland, of course there are some precedents, but still.
    This is a great thing friends! This says a lot, and first of all, that the country, which some up to some throats, stood up, contrary to all things, stood up, through hatred, through despair, through wars, through humiliation, she stood up to sweep away all trash and dust from the table, to build a world from scratch and help those in need stay in the world. Glory to Russia friends soldier
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 March 2013 09: 22
      +1
      afire "Glory to Russia, friends!"
      URRRAAAAA !!!!
  9. Apollo
    Apollo 18 March 2013 08: 52
    +1
    Expert opinions

    Experts were skeptical of the "oceanic" plans of the Navy. So, the chief editor of the magazine "National Defense" Igor Korotchenko told Izvestia that to deploy groups in the Pacific and Indian Oceans on an ongoing basis, Russia is not within the power, and there are no military and geopolitical tasks for them now. But the appearance of the future Mediterranean squad of ships, which, for example, can fight piracy in the Horn of Africa, is very likely. True, he certainly will not be able to compete with the Soviet fifth squadron, which at different times totaled 30-50 ships, Korotchenko believes.

    An expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies agrees with him. Vasily Kashin. It is possible to solve the problem of presence in the Pacific and Indian Oceans, but only by removing resources from some other areas and significant stress, he said in an interview with Vzglyad newspaper. According to him, surface ships of the Russian fleet for the most part were built in the 1980 years and are now "knocking out the rest of the resource", which means the military should speed up programs in this area.

    Among Russia's foreign partners, there are many rather unstable, developing countries, the expert says. Therefore, our country needs to have a small, but effective naval force, which can stay in remote corners of the World Ocean for a long time and solve tasks such as, for example, mass evacuation of Russian citizens from the combat zone

    Read in full: http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2013/03/17/ministerstvo-oborony-rf/706236-glavkom-vmf-
    poobeshchal-sdelat-rossiyu-vladychits
    1. TRex
      TRex 18 March 2013 10: 04
      0
      So I am not some kind of "expert" or "editor-in-chief" ... I am not even a member of the editorial board ... I just served in the navy, saw different places and different people and without any ANALYSIS OF STRATEGIES AND TECHNOLOGIES, even without such great authority, like Igor Korotchenko, I will simply say - it is too early for our commander-in-chief to think about creating "squadrons" in the Pacific or Indian Oceans ... If only the Pacific Fleet is reduced and turned into a squadron ... Maybe this means?
      And yet, gentlemen ... the army and the navy are just getting up off their knees, but I've heard so much lately about all these "institutes" and "centers" ... Young mods are sitting in the TV box, judging by the clever expression on their face in the army did not serve, and broadcast their analyzes and forecasts. It is interesting to know - who gives money for the maintenance of these pseudo-scientific idlers?
  10. Odysseus
    Odysseus 18 March 2013 08: 53
    +3
    The Commander-in-Chief of the Navy decided to be like Mr. Zhirinovsky. He wanted to wash his boots in the Indian Ocean, this one to create squadrons from nonexistent ships there.
    Instead of this shameful chatter, he would rather tell when, finally, Severodvinsk, which has been under construction since 1993, will enter the fleet.
  11. tun1313
    tun1313 18 March 2013 09: 07
    0
    Quote: lvn321
    on the creation of military bases on the moon, Mars and on the planet Eridan

    Dig longer ...
  12. fenix57
    fenix57 18 March 2013 09: 22
    0
    You know, gentlemen, comrades; there wouldn’t be a Pacific Fleet, there wouldn’t be a Far East as part of the Russian Federation (including Kamchatka, Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands). I didn’t say anything about the PV squadron.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 March 2013 10: 35
      0
      fenix57
      "You know, gentlemen, comrades; there would have been no Pacific Fleet, there would have been no Far East as part of the Russian Federation (including Kamchatka, Sakhalin, Kuriles)"
      You're right! And there would be no Strategic Missile Forces and the country would not exist !!!
  13. ixsus
    ixsus 18 March 2013 09: 50
    +1
    Hi all!
    5-6 ships ...
    It seems that we can’t put it out anymore. Enough for now to demonstrate the flag. Well, then I think 11356-mi (new) and 22350-mi will be understaffed.
  14. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 18 March 2013 10: 32
    0
    I have an eternal question - why aren’t they upgrading and rebuilding a Peter the Great and Moscow-type cruiser, are there still canned destroyers and much more that could be sent to the Indian, Pacific Oceans and the Mediterranean Sea, without losing the combat effectiveness of the country itself? It is both faster and cheaper, and in my opinion, they will not come up with anything better than these ships for a long time.
  15. Hey
    Hey 18 March 2013 10: 36
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    In my opinion a real idea.
    Look two years ago in the Mediterranean, the single calls of our ships. A year ago there were already groups, by the end of the year our ships were almost always there. This year already plans for a permanent squadron.
    Indian Ocean - there are always a couple of ships on the fight against piracy - here you have the basis of the squadron there. The fight against piracy is a prelude to large naval forces.
    Pacific Fleet - the core of the future squadron was correctly noted on the Mistral approach (we will not argue about its merits and demerits).
    The second recent trip of officials to Vietnam and "sounding the soil" about Komrani.
    Third, the need to take into account the geopolitical plans of the United States, which are increasingly casting a glance at the South Asian region, and they openly talk about it.
    And in general, for all fleets, new ships are approaching, you can scold shipbuilders, but a new one is under construction and I think this construction will go on schedule.
    So, again, the idea is real.
  16. Sirocco
    Sirocco 18 March 2013 11: 30
    0
    True path we go comrades. Especially when you consider the fact that 2/3 of the surface of the planet Earth is occupied by water. The more the better we are.
  17. tlauicol
    tlauicol 18 March 2013 13: 43
    0
    Chirkov raves
  18. elmir15
    elmir15 26 March 2013 00: 15
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    Russia can create naval squadrons in the Pacific and Indian Oceans on an ongoing basis.

    It can’t, but it is necessary