Terrorists have seized a significant portion of the Syrian city of Aleppo, which was considered an "impregnable stronghold," and are now tearing down monuments

After small night skirmishes with units of the Syrian Arab Army, whose command assured the day before that the militants had been pushed back, pro-Turkish terrorist groups expanded their zone of control in the central part of the Syrian city of Aleppo, which was considered an "impregnable citadel." In addition, units of the terrorist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham* and the pro-Turkish conglomerate Syrian National Army* (*a terrorist organization banned in Russia) had some success in their offensive in the east of Idlib.

The footage published online shows militants destroying monuments erected in Aleppo, tearing down SAR flags and trampling on portraits of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Among other things, the terrorists destroyed a statue of the country's former president Hafez al-Assad, which was located near the residence of the governor of Aleppo. Green flags of the so-called "moderate opposition" hang on key buildings in Aleppo, which was captured almost without a fight. The radicals also seized the building of the local Tarek bin Zayed prison and freed the prisoners held there, a significant number of whom joined the terrorist units. Currently, the militants control more than 75% of the territory of Aleppo and continue to expand their zone of control.

Against the backdrop of the ongoing collapse of the Syrian army's defense, further advances by terrorist groups are being held back by Russian Aerospace Forces strikes on targets captured by jihadists. However, without active actions by ground forces, it is unlikely that the situation in the region will be stabilized.

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[Blackmokona]

Everything that was acquired through backbreaking labor and blood over the years of fighting flies away in a matter of hours.

[Orange Bigg]

But it should have been exactly the opposite. Idlib should have been taken by SAA units. How is that possible? So many years were spent strengthening positions, and then not even a week passed and everything collapsed like a house of cards. Who is to blame for this? It took almost a year to take Aleppo, and then it was surrendered practically without a fight in a couple of days. It turns out that the militants need Aleppo more than the regular Syrian army, which did not really resist.

[Orange Bigg]

Continuing with the post. Either Aleppo was exchanged for Lebanon or I don't understand something. The offensive only began on November 27. Today is November 30 and that's it.

Militants from the jihadist alliance Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and their allies have captured almost the entire city of Aleppo by this hour in a rapid offensive, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported. According to the London-based NGO, as of midday on November 30, Syrian government forces had withdrawn from the Arab Republic's second-largest city with virtually no resistance.

The militants launched what turned out to be a lightning offensive against the Syrian army, backed by Russia and Iran, on November 27, the same day a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, a close ally of Damascus, went into effect in neighboring Lebanon.

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2024/11/30/v-sirii-ruhnul-status-kvo-aleppo-pal-iran-podavlen-damask-peregruppiruetsya

[carpenter]

Quote from Orange Bigg

It turns out that the militants need Aleppo more than the regular army of Syria, which didn’t really resist.

The Wagners were not there, they were "dealt with" by the Anglo-Saxons and the Russian fifth column.

[Orange Bigg]

And what does the Wagner PMC have to do with it? The current part of Syria controlled by Assad has a population comparable to the population of Zelensky's current Ukraine. About 20 million people. And for some reason Kharkov has not surrendered limply in 3 days, like Aleppo did. Although these are again cities of comparable area. Feel the difference.
In the 2022 peace year, the population of Aleppo was 3 people (868). More than in Kiev. Someone resisted the militants or no one cared. But if they don't care, then we should not care either. We cannot be more Syrian than the Syrians themselves.

[carpenter]

Quote from Orange Bigg

What does Wagner PMC have to do with it?

If Wagner were in Syria, the terrorists and Turks would be disappointed. That's what it has to do with it.

[Orange Bigg]

Why do we need the Syrian Arab Army then? For beauty? I don't know. It looks very much like a deal. I simply don't have any other logical explanation.

[carpenter]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Then why do we need the Syrian Arab Army?

You are right, there is some kind of deal. They held on for a while, and then fell.

[Orange Bigg]

Probably the new President of Iran is trying to come to an agreement with the West as a whole and again on the day of the beginning of the militants' offensive a ceasefire began in Lebanon. They decided to save Hezbollah in this way?
The militants launched what turned out to be a lightning offensive against the Syrian army, backed by Russia and Iran, on November 27, the same day a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, a close ally of Damascus, went into effect in neighboring Lebanon.

[Kronos]

Another explanation is very simple: the small number of people in favor of Assad is why they don’t want to fight.

[Orange Bigg]

Well then, in fact, Assad will no longer be able to keep Syria under his power and it’s time to look for a backup airfield for him.

[Kronos]

So he held it purely by force of arms of Russia, Iran and others. The forces became less, the situation fell apart. In fact, it is possible that the situation will still be stabilized, but the territory of his control will obviously be greatly reduced.

[carpenter]

Quote: Kronos

So he held it purely by force of arms from Russia, Iran and others.

The Raguli do not agree.

[Adrey]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Well then, in fact, Assad will no longer be able to keep Syria under his power and it’s time to look for a backup airfield for him.

Do you suggest Rostov, as per tradition?

[Revolver]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Well then, in fact, Assad will no longer be able to keep Syria under his power and it’s time to look for a backup airfield for him.

He should update his knowledge of his first education, so that he would have something to earn his daily bread with. By the way, ophthalmologists earn oh so well.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Kronos

Another explanation is very simple: the small number of people in favor of Assad is why they don’t want to fight.

A small number of people supported the Americans in Mosul, a city comparable in area to Aleppo. Let me remind you that on October 17, 2016, the troops of the international coalition led by the United States began an offensive on Mosul, which was under the control of ISIS* (a banned terrorist organization). However, despite the absolute numerical and technical superiority, the advance of the attacking forces was extremely slow and accompanied by the death of civilians. It was only in July 2017 that the militants were driven out. The US Air Force covered entire areas with airstrikes. And now, in contrast, evaluate the current events in Aleppo.
The area of ​​Aleppo is 190 km²
The area of ​​Mosul is 180 km²

[Cartalon]

The majority of this population are Sunnis who hate Assad, his power is based on bayonets, and as we know, a bayonet is a wonderful thing, but you can’t sit on it.

[carpenter]

Quote: Cartalon

The majority of this population are Sunnis who hate Assad, his power is based on bayonets.

The most influential part of the population of Syria are the Alawites, who make up about 10% of the population and completely control the country. The Alawites are often considered Muslims, but outside of Syria, neither Sunnis nor Shiites recognize them as such. Therefore, they are simply "Alawites". Another 10% are Christians of various denominations (Orthodox, Catholics, Armenians). 9% of the population of Syria are Kurds, formally they are also Muslims, but in fact, Yezidism is widespread among the Kurds, and their "Islam" is very far from the Arabian original. There are also about 5 percent of various exotic ethnic groups (from the Druze to the biblical Chaldeans and Arameans, who believe in matters known only to them). So, after deducting the above groups, there remains about 65% of the population, who are considered "Sunni Arabs", although from the Arabs there is only a dialect of the language, so they are simply Sunni Muslims.

[bullfight]

If you criticize, suggest. This was the position in the USSR.
I don't agree with the actions of such and such, for such and such reasons. I propose to do so and so.
It's called "constructive criticism." Everything else is just bullshit.

[paul3390]

And you yourself, what - still don't know what needs to be done??? In your mind...

It seemed to me - everything is obvious. In this context - if you get involved in a fight, then finish off the enemy to the end!! And don't constantly fall for some rotten agreements... Which only give the enemy time to come to his senses and hit you again with all his might...

[bullfight]

Generalissimo, calm down. If the commander-in-chief told you about his plans, share them with us. I, for example, have not heard about plans for pacification. But intelligence - yes... It interferes with my life. I may have shaved my beard, but my admirers will still recognize me.

[Tagan]

Idlib was supposed to be taken by SAA units.

Well, where would they be? The Syrian army was somehow better at taking selfies after they got the victory handed to them.

[Maz]

The main thing is that the estate of the commander of the group of troops in Syria, acquired through backbreaking labor, will not fly away anywhere.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: BlackMokona

Everything that was acquired through backbreaking labor and blood over the years of fighting flies away in a matter of hours.

This is what unfinished business and deals result in.

[ximkim]

They also released their relatives from prison.
Yes..
2025 will be something

[carpenter]

Quote: ximkim

2025 will be something

Here I agree with you 200%

[tralflot1832]

Erdoğash has seriously damaged our image. But Bashar Assad has also relied too much on his oligarchs.

[TermNachTer]

Good day, Andrey. Well, first of all, regarding the unofficial division of responsibility zones - Aleppo, that's the Persians. Let them sort out their own problems, and the Syrian ones there. Russia is interested in Tartus in Syria, and a little bit in Latakia. They are quite far away.

[carpenter]

Quote: tralflot1832

Erdoğas has seriously damaged our image.

Since 1568, Türkiye waged war with Russia. After the overthrow of the Ottoman Empire, V.I. Lenin believed the Turks - Here is a letter from Mustafa Kemal to V.I. Lenin:
«We undertake to unite all our work and all our military operations with the Russian Bolsheviks, whose aim is to fight against the imperialist governments and to liberate all oppressed people from their power."
In the second half of 1920, Kemal planned to create a Turkish Communist Party under his control in order to receive funding from the Comintern, but on January 28, 1921, the leadership of the Turkish communists was liquidated with his sanction[
So Erdogan is no better than Kemal and his predecessors.
You have to keep your eyes open with Turkey.
It's a pity that the tsars couldn't win back the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, it's coming back to haunt them now. Although Gorbachev and Eltsyn did hundreds of times more harm to Russia than even Hitler.

[alexoff]

Where did those fighters go who had been surrounded for years? Were they kicked out of the army by opportunists during the years of peace?

[Blackmokona]

Quote from alexoff

Where did those fighters go who had been surrounded for years? Were they kicked out of the army by opportunists during the years of peace?

Most likely they died, wars gradually burn out the brave and leave the opportunists. Because some run to attack, and others always try to have a human shield of brave people in front of them.

[alexoff]

Well, usually those who win a war survive, otherwise they would have lost the war the moment their numbers became few.

[Blackmokona]

Quote from alexoff

Well, usually those who win a war survive, otherwise they would have lost the war the moment their numbers became few.

Well, there are few of them left. Therefore, there are not enough brave ones to hold the entire front. Therefore, they report that in some areas there is decent resistance, and everywhere where there are not enough, they are immediately pressed on the slippers. From which the brave ones either have to press on the slippers or die in the cauldrons. Because their flanks have already fled

[Ryaruav]

do you want to say that in may 45 the red army was full of opportunists? black american macon do you have a conscience? or write after thinking

[Gavrilo Princip]

It seems to me, gentlemen, that Rostov-papa will be receiving another guest...

[Ivan№One]

Unlikely
They hold the coastal area and the south tightly. There are many Christians and Alawites.
But the north seems to be going away
The East even more so

[voyaka uh]

Assad is supported by the province of Latakia (coast) and the capital Damascus and its environs.
The South, like the North, sympathizes with various Islamist currents.

[ergh081]

Tomatoes again? or let's add tangerines

[Lech from Android.]

What happened to Assad's army?
Lost motivation?
Fighting spirit?
Brain?
The reasons for such a debacle are unclear.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Lech from Android.

What happened to Assad's army?

This is not about Assad's army. What matters is that the combat-ready forces of Hezbollah, Ksehir and the Russian Armed Forces have gone off on their own business in different directions. Some to fight Israel, some to conduct the SVO.
And the bare-assed bearded men were diligently armed and trained by the Turkish military for these three years. Here is the result

[Lech from Android.]

How is this possible... Erdogan swore to Putin that he was a friend, a brother... that peace, friendship, and cud between two peoples were sacred... and then he played such a dirty trick on our guarantor.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Lech from Android.

How is this possible... Erdogan swore to Putin that he was a friend, a brother... that peace, friendship, and cud between two peoples were sacred... and then he played such a dirty trick on our guarantor.

He's already stabbed me in the back so many times that I can lose count.

[ergh081]

It makes sense. It seems true.

[Ivan№One]

And what did the Syrian army do these past three years? Continued to drink mate through a straw and grill kebabs?

[Kovalenko_Ilya]

I will also add that they armed our Russian tourists with money, who really love to vacation and live in Turkey...

[digger]

I have long realized that the Syrians are not worthy of their state. They do not want to fight for their land at all. Cowards....they run and give everything....so...these are not crazy Ukrainians who fight for every bush with their teeth...

[Revolver]

Quote: Digger

I have long realized that the Syrians are not worthy of their state

There is no such nation as "Syrians". Syria, as a geographical concept, exists, but there are no Syrians. About the same as there are no Caucasians. That is, maybe for most Russians they are all "persons of Caucasian nationality", but they themselves know who is a Chechen, who is an Ingush, who is an Ossetian, and so on. There are few specialists who can list them all. What is characteristic is that they do not like each other very much. The same goes for the Syrians, there is such a tangle of nationalities and religions twisted there that you can't figure it out. Well, maybe the Sunni Arabs can somehow pass for "Syrians", they are a little more than half of them, but in that case Assad is not a Syrian, since he is an Alawite, and the Alawites are definitely not Sunnis, and in general the sages of Sunni Islam do not even consider them Muslims.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Lech from Android.

What happened to Assad's army?
Lost motivation?

"For 4 years the "orchestra" of Aleppo took...
In the end, Assad lost everything.
The sadyks are running, dropping feces
And their general shit himself.
The enemies rejoice, their hour has come,
The ending is now unpredictable.

[RuAbel]

Assad's army is still the same, that is, nothing, and in 15-17, it was mainly Wagner and pro-Iranian militants who fought ISIS. Plus, our air group bombed and shot at everything they could day and night.

[Mazunga]

Assad himself is already in Moscow with his family, so everything is fine)) most likely, the acquired property will gradually migrate

[antiaircrafter]

— What is going on in the world anyway?
- There is no stability. Terrorists have captured Aleppo again. (c)

[Knell wardenheart]

There is no need to rush to write off Assad and his supporters. The opposition has been preparing for a long time and of course its first blows will be powerful. The question is what will happen soon. In my opinion, the conflict will not get a second wind because it has been going on for too long. This is a usual bloody push-pull where any fluctuation will be compensated.

[pexotinec]

They simply gave the terrorists a rest, to get ready for battle, and oops, here's the result.

[ximkim]

Quote: carpenter

Quote: ximkim

2025 will be something

Here I agree with you 200%

Even bad and worse won't fit here)))

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Well then, in fact, Assad will no longer be able to keep Syria under his power and it’s time to look for a backup airfield for him.

The regiment of Yanukovych and Azarov is being replenished... Although, Iran is more familiar.

[Revolver]

Quote: SkepticOptimist

Although, Iran is closer.

While they needed Assad, the ayatollahs decided to consider the Alawites a branch of Shiism. But if the Alawite regime falls, and accordingly the need disappears, the ayatollahs will immediately remember that, in fact, the Alawites are heretics and apostates from pure, unclouded Islam (in the Shiite version, of course). And the ayatollahs do not stand on ceremony with heretics and especially apostates.

[Ksanatos]

Well, guys, who went on holiday to Turkey in recent years? That's where your money is.

[Kronos]

That once again ordinary citizens are to blame for all the troubles, and not the authorities and the military?

[Ksanatos]

If for the Airborne Forces it’s “nobody but us,” then for the couch potatoes it’s “everyone but us.”

[Buskan]

Assad is unpopular with most Syrians and is only held in power by Russian aid.
Assad could repeat the fate of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi.

[Kovalenko_Ilya]

Come on. In the 21 elections, the turnout was 78%. Of these, 95% voted for Bashar.

Not popular?

[Bogalex]

Comrade Ceausescu's level of support, judging by official data, was also somewhere around 90%. Two days before his overthrow and execution...

[know]

How much money and resources Putin wasted instead of dealing with more pressing issues. But there was a promising option of exchanging Syria for Ukraine. No, he went to the ends of the earth. As usual, were they deceived? Or did he outwit himself?

[Esaul]

This happens when an ordinary suitcase porter begins to think that he is a great geostrategist and emperor of all Rus'.

[Kovalenko_Ilya]

In the context of history, oddly enough, the most effective Russian emperor and strategist turned out to be a woman, and a foreigner (a Polish woman), who did not inherit power directly, but ascended the throne illegitimately, removing (physically) the current tsar.
This also happens.

[guest]

Quote: Kovalenko_Ilya

and also a foreigner (Polish)

Actually, she's German.

[guest]

Quote: vet

But there was a promising option of exchanging Syria for Ukraine.

When was it? Enlighten me.

[konst]

The Syrian Ministry of Defense was bribed, perhaps by the US, like Hussein and Gaddafi.

[Ivan№One]

"Unapproachable" - when there is someone to protect
Mate and coffee lovers with shashlik are clearly not like that

[guest]

Terrorists have captured a significant part of the Syrian city of Aleppo, which was considered an “impregnable citadel,” and are now demolish monuments

I've heard somewhere before about monuments being torn down, oh yes, in Ukraine.

[Revolver]

The radicals also seized the building of the local prison, Tarek bin Zayed, and freed the prisoners held there, a significant number of whom joined the terrorist units.

Was it really that hard to shoot them before leaving?

[svetlo series]

It is necessary to understand that the Arabs do not have a cult of the people's army, as in European countries. The concept of patriotism, self-sacrifice is insignificant there. The Eastern people are all committed by their mentality to submit to the strong side or hand, and who has the power today, in relation to yesterday, for them it is not important. Echoes of this mentality are also characteristic of the Russians. Therefore, it is extremely difficult to get the Syrian army to victory again. In contrast, bearded terrorists are ready to fight 24 hours a day, because the basis of their actions is robbery

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: SkepticOptimist

Although, Iran is closer.

While they needed Assad, the ayatollahs decided to consider the Alawites a branch of Shiism. But if the Alawite regime falls, and accordingly the need disappears, the ayatollahs will immediately remember that, in fact, the Alawites are heretics and apostates from pure, unclouded Islam (in the Shiite version, of course). And the ayatollahs do not stand on ceremony with heretics and especially apostates.

Assad keeps his billions somewhere. He probably prepared several reserve airfields for himself and his close and distant relatives: usually in the East the new government chops off the heads of representatives and relatives of the old government, so they clean up the verticals and horizontals of power and replace them with their own.
Assad's army has always been 10% combat-ready, and in better times 20%.

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: svetlo seriy

It is necessary to understand that the Arabs do not have a cult of the people's army, as in European countries. The concept of patriotism, self-sacrifice is insignificant there. The Eastern people are all committed by their mentality to submit to the strong side or hand, and who has the power today, in relation to yesterday, for them it is not important. Echoes of this mentality are also characteristic of the Russians. Therefore, it is extremely difficult to get the Syrian army to victory again. In contrast, bearded terrorists are ready to fight 24 hours a day, because the basis of their actions is robbery

In the East (and everywhere!) they respect: 1) Money 2) Power; 3) Strength; 4) Religion (usually in last place, unless they are fanatics) or 5) Idea (sometimes). Without 1)-5), the state structure collapses from within and from without.
The power can be any, but taking into account 1)-5), never weak. Because it will lose everything.

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: Ksanatos

Well, guys, who went on holiday to Turkey in recent years? That's where your money is.

Equally "Well, aunties, who hasn't gone on holiday to Turkey in recent years? That's where your money is."...there.

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: Kovalenko_Ilya

Come on. In the 21 elections, the turnout was 78%. Of these, 95% voted for Bashar.

Not popular?

The Central Electoral Commission of Russia is working effectively, assured President Vladimir Putin, answering questions from Russians today during the Direct Line.
"The Father of Nations once said: it doesn't matter who votes how, it matters who counts. I hope that this is not the case, because no one doubts the effectiveness and objectivity of the work of the election commissions," the head of state said.

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: guest

Terrorists have captured a significant part of the Syrian city of Aleppo, which was considered an “impregnable citadel,” and are now demolish monuments

I've heard somewhere before about monuments being torn down, oh yes, in Ukraine.

And also in the USSR and the Russian Federation. In the USSR, the decree "On the Monuments of the Republic" was adopted, which became one of the cornerstones of Lenin's plan for monumental propaganda. According to it, some monuments of pre-revolutionary Russia were to be torn down and replaced with proletarian works of monumental art. Among the demolished objects were the St. Petersburg "Column of Glory", cast from captured Turkish cannons, monuments to Princess Olga in Kyiv, Tsar Mikhail Fyodorovich and Ivan Susanin in Kostroma, Potemkin in Kherson and others. Later - monuments to Stalin, Lenin, Dzerzhinsky, etc. In 1990-1991, over 5000 Soviet monuments were torn down. The monuments to Lenin and other Soviet leaders were mostly damaged.
The Mausoleum alone is worth something, draped with the tricolor "Vlasov" banner during the festive parade. In 2007, the monument to Soviet soldiers in Khimki was torn down (at the same time, the graves of six Heroes of the Soviet Union were opened, their remains were reburied), the monument to the hero pilot Poidenko in Aprelevka near Moscow was broken.
Paradox: In 2018, a monument dedicated to the history of Russian Railways was erected in Yekaterinburg, on which Kaganovich is depicted together with Felix Dzerzhinsky.
a monument to war heroes was destroyed in the village of Tashelka in the Samara Region, a monument to those killed in the Great Patriotic War was dismantled in the village of Mezhdu-Kamysh in Altai. in Ivanovo, they got rid of the monument "40 Years of Victory" - the fact is that a church was being built next to the monument, and representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church proposed erecting a statue of St. George the Victorious in its place. one Perm businessman urgently needed a plot of land on Oktyabrskaya Square, where the "Order of Lenin" was located, awarded to the city in the late 70s and symbolizing the labor exploits of the townspeople. As a result, the monument was "moved" - the old one was broken, the land under it was sold, and a new monument was built in another place at the expense of the budget. In Belgorod, the authorities made a kind of castling - they demolished the monument to Lenin in order to replace it with the stele "City of Military Glory". In Yekaterinburg, the "Red Banner Group" dedicated to the contribution of the Urals to the Victory was dismantled. Etc., etc. Study https://vestnikburi.com/dvoynyie-standartyi-o-razrushenii-pamyatnikov/
Monuments to fascists in the Russian Federation https://topwar.ru/149643-jeta-strannaja-rossija-chast-1-pamjatnik-fashistam.html
"Shut up, godfather: you, like me, are sinful,
And you will break every word;
In someone else's . . . . (eye?) you see a straw,
“And you don’t even see a log in yourself.”
A.S. Pushkin. Walking home from the all-night vigil...

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: Lech from Android.

How is this possible... Erdogan swore to Putin that he was a friend, a brother... that peace, friendship, and cud between two peoples were sacred... and then he played such a dirty trick on our guarantor.

The pig is an unclean animal in Islam and Judaism.
Muslims and Jews do not eat pork, and consider pigs to be dirty animals.