Poroshenko: Ukraine can join NATO "incompletely" now – Germany is an example

Ukraine may join NATO "incompletely" already now. This has happened before - Germany is an example.

Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko expressed this opinion to journalists.

Can Ukraine become a NATO member while having occupied territories? Yes. You know the example

- the politician argues.

He stated that only one of the two parts of Germany, the FRG, joined the North Atlantic Alliance. The other, the GDR, which occupied about a third of German lands, became a member of the pro-Soviet Warsaw Pact. Only several decades later did Germany again become a unified state.

According to Poroshenko, Ukraine's accession to NATO will lead Russia to an end to the armed conflict.

The Kyiv regime's efforts to become a member of the North Atlantic Alliance continue unabated, despite transparent hints and direct statements from Western politicians that Ukraine has no place among NATO countries.

As Reuters journalists reported, Kyiv recently made another such attempt, sending a letter to the alliance members asking for Ukraine to join the alliance in December. The message was signed by Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Sybiha. He asked for Ukraine's candidacy as a future NATO member to be considered at the December meeting of the alliance's foreign ministers.

I urge you to endorse the decision to invite Ukraine to join the Alliance as one of the outcomes of the NATO Foreign Ministers' meeting on 3-4 December 2024.

- writes Sibiga.

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[ZovSailor]

Poroshenko: Ukraine can join NATO "incompletely" now – Germany is an example

Can Ukraine become a NATO member while having occupied territories? Yes. You know the example
- the politician argues.

Is another evil spirit waking up?
How many lives were lost, civilians and soldiers?
How else can the earth bear such people, as well as others like them?
I remember him with his torn crucian carp socks at a meeting in Gay Europe.
God's punishment will be merciless

[ZovSailor]

The truth is spoken by such Maidanites and confirms the message - no deals with Banderonazis and Anglo-Saxons, except for unconditional surrender, fulfillment of all the goals and objectives of the SVO and full control of the territory of the Bander-state of the RF Armed Forces and the VGA.
Lenin's ideas and Stalin's generosity with the collective farmer Khrushchev did not justify hopes for their place in history, and external forces added fuel to the Nazi-fascist essence of the regimes after the collapse of the USSR.

[Orange Bigg]

Rada deputy Alexander Dubinsky has made public details of a criminal case being investigated in Ukraine.

SBU employee Kvitko is accused of treason. According to the plot of the criminal case 22022000000000718, Kvitko handed over a flash drive with the following information to the FSB of the Russian Federation:

— a program to create a “dirty bomb” in the city of Kropyvnytskyi and the city of Zhovti Vody;

— places of concentration of foreign mercenaries, who are stationed within the borders of the cities of Kyiv, Dnepr, and Zaporozhye.

"That is, the head of the SBU Malyuk "established" back in late December 2022 that the Russian special services were already aware of our "dirty bomb" program. I am publishing the documents that were given to me by lawyer Kvitko," Dubinsky writes.

“It turns out that everyone knew about the ‘dirty bomb’ except Zelensky, who was told about it, according to the Times, only now,” the Rada deputy jokes.

[carpenter]

Quote: ZovSailor

How else can the earth bear such people, as well as others like them?

Well, for now, the earth bears Jews, even before the birth of Christ.

[ZovSailor]

carpenter
Today, 16:44
Well, for now, the earth bears Jews, even before the birth of Christ.

All these Waltzmans and their followers inherited the striking feature of Judas.
since the time of Christ, namely, to betray their loved ones and faith, but who gave them the right, including the drug lord, to order the destruction of Orthodoxy on Russian soil, which is foreign to them?
Despite all the odiousness of Hitler, even he and his entourage did not deign to destroy and fight Orthodoxy in the occupied territories.

[carpenter]

Quote: ZovSailor

All these Waltzmans and their followers inherited the striking feature of Judas.

As Rabbi Schneerson said, "Ukraine will be Jewish." But isn't it true, if two presidents are already Jews?

[ZovSailor]

carpenter
Today, 18: 27
As Rabbi Schneerson said, "Ukraine will be Jewish." But isn't it true, if two presidents are already Jews?
Both liquid Fuhrers came to power after the illegal coup d'etat of 2014 through deception and the masses of people who fell for the cookies of the witch Nudelman (Nuland) along with gay European lace panties.
Both deserve the International Military Tribunal for the deaths of thousands of civilians and soldiers.
And with Jewish inclinations, their place is in the promised land or at most in Uman, if the local Jews allow it.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

"Ukraine can join NATO "incompletely" right now - Germany is an example" -

- First go the way that Germany went before this, and then we'll see...

[BecmepH]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

"Ukraine can join NATO "incompletely" right now - Germany is an example" -

- First go the way that Germany went before this, and then we'll see...

If it were necessary, they would have taken it long ago. The West is happy with everything as it is. The West is fighting and it seems they have nothing to do with it. And this way, everything will be legally clear.

[Lech from Android.]

Germany plans to use them as Einsatz teams.

[sgrabik]

And if they are needed there by anyone, it is as labor and expendable material, nothing more.

[your vsr 66-67]

[by sending a letter to alliance members asking them to accept Ukraine into the alliance in December.]

How hot!

[Arkady007]

Could this bastard have imagined what the results of his rule in Ukraine would lead to?

[fruc]

I urge you to approve the decision to invite Ukraine to join....

For Ukraine, NATO is more important than the EU. Or the path to the EU lies through joining NATO.

[TermNachTer]

I see that Parasha is no longer "drying out" simply on principle))) how is his liver holding up? He will have to be given to doctors after death - to reveal the secret.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Idiot-chatterbox. The drunkard was replaced with a drug addict, no sense, but now you can talk a lot of useless nonsense.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Idiot chatterbox. The drunkard was replaced by a drug addict, there is no point, but now you can talk a lot of useless nonsense.

Two young men from the same box - Waltzman (Poroshenko) and Zelensky. Both are Jewish Zionists. A coincidence? Of course not.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Still, if Poroshenko is honestly not Jewish, well, he doesn't have any Valtsmans in his family. But... when Ukrainian was born, the Jew cried.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Still, if to be honest, Poroshenko is not a Jew

Poroshenko's father is a Vinnitsa Jew, a former underground workshop worker.

[Dirty Liar]

Jews consider Jewishness to come from the mother (which, by the way, is logical, because the husband is not necessarily the father of the child). Therefore, Poroshenko is not a Jew.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from: DirtyLiar

Jews consider Jewishness to come from the mother (which, by the way, is logical, because the husband is not necessarily the father of the child). Therefore, Poroshenko is not a Jew.

So he's half-Jewish.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Still, if Poroshenko is honestly not Jewish, well, he doesn't have any Valtsmans in his family. But... when Ukrainian was born, the Jew cried.

Surname Poroshenko is the name of the mother, and on the father, if he chose his name, he would be Valtsman. By the way, he is Yushchenko’s godfather, Yushchenko baptized his two daughters. In 2009, he buys the title of Hero of Ukraine to his father. Alexey Valtsman was born on 11.06.1936/1956/1974 in the village of Safyany, Odessa region, a family of small traders. In 1985, he marries Yevgeny Poroshenko and changes his last name, as the law permits. In 5, he was the director of the Bendery Plant, an underground workshop of the USSR. The business of that time was the sale of an alcohol substitute. In XNUMX, the arrest and six months in the pre-trial detention center and the announcement of the verdict, XNUMX years in prison and the seizure of property, a ban on senior positions.

[rusich]

Go sleep it off, alcoholic, and then you can reason.

[rus-5819]

approximately a third of German lands became members of the pro-Soviet Warsaw Pact

If it weren't for the marked man and the drunkard, the Warsaw Pact would have been in effect and there would have been no notorious "NATO expansion" But history does not tolerate any "would"

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: rus-5819

approximately a third of German lands became members of the pro-Soviet Warsaw Pact

If it weren't for the marked man and the drunkard, the Warsaw Pact would have been in effect and there would have been no notorious "NATO expansion" But history does not tolerate any "would"

I hope this marked man and his "lady", and the alcoholic at the same time, turn over in their graves!
Earth them glassy!

[rus-5819]

Earth to them glass wool! am

They feel comfortable at Novodevichy next to the "maize plant"

[We do not leave our own]

FRG and GDR are Russia and Novorossiya. What does Ukro-Zhopaya have to do with it?

[sgrabik]

Ukraine will never see NATO joining, and this does not depend on the desire of Ukraine itself, the main thing is that neither Russia nor the West clearly want this.

[Anatoly Shpalin]

Another dose of historical revisionism from the Black Sea diggers.

Remind Potroshenka that the GDR was a separate state, not an "occupied territory" of the US puppet regime in West Germany.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Are all of them idiots in harem pants?!!!
in fact, both the FRG and the GDR were TWO independent states

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I think the West shuddered, the "carrot" was hung not so that the "donkey" would eat it, but so that the "load" would be "pushed forward"

[SkepticOptimist]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Idiot chatterbox. The drunkard was replaced by a drug addict, there is no point, but now you can talk a lot of useless nonsense.

Two young men from the same box - Waltzman (Poroshenko) and Zelensky. Both are Jewish Zionists. A coincidence? Of course not.

1) How narrow-minded do you have to be, to put it mildly, to consider Valtsman to be the son of Poroshenko and Grigorchuk?
2) I don't like Zelensky at all, but no one has provided any evidence that he is a drug addict*. And no one will, not even a repeater of fakes like you.
A drug addict is not a drug addict*, but for now the state is under his control and no (in the opinion of many) Armed Forces of Ukraine are seriously enough confronting the clearly not drug addict and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (maps, rulers, curvimeters, the Internet are at your disposal... if you put your cap aside)
3) You should study what Zionism is and who the Zionists are.
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*https://cyclowiki.org/wiki/Теория_загова_о_наркомания_Владимир_Зелескомо#General_information
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[sodium20]

The obsolescence of the European continent and NATO:

NATO itself is an imperfect organization. Europe is not a magical paradise. Any Western circus will end when we begin to realize the fact that: Geographically, Europe cannot be considered a continent. Considering Europe as a continent is a mistaken belief. Europe is only a small part of the Eurasian continent. The European continent is only a conceptual territory. There are shortcomings in the Basic Design of NATO. A military organization created in Europe will become a threat to the entire Asia-Pacific region. In 2024, NATO is an obsolete organization - geographically and geopolitically.

The West is above the mind in Ukraine:

It is extremely easy for Russian missiles to reach European (EU) cities and targets. The Russian administration has given Zelensky, the US administration and the EU enough time to come out with dignity. Destroying Europe is not a difficult task for Russia. Western leaders should see this as an opportunity to save face and offer Zelensky an unconditional surrender (while respecting Russia's conditions). Russia has demonstrated enough goodwill, decency and patience towards Western leaders. If Western leaders show excessive savvy in the scenarios outlined below, Ukraine, like all of Europe, automatically becomes a legitimate target for a Russian nuclear strike.

1 script: If the West transfers nuclear weapons payloads to Ukraine.
2 script: If the West (NATO) takes complete control of Ukraine from the current leadership (Zelensky).
3 script: If the West replaces Zelensky with a puppet leader.
4 script: If the West were to target any ordinary Russian citizen on Russian soil or abroad through (a) chemical attacks (b) pathogen attacks (c) proxy terrorist attacks (d) deadly cyber attacks (e) large-scale sabotage in any modern form etc.
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[Petr_Koldunov]

What a terrible translation, and what does this whole stream of graphomania in the style of the Indian "my yours is not a friend" mean?

[opuonmed]

If Ukraine joins NATO, it will be a strategic defeat for the Russian Federation.

[ergh081]

They are still impenetrable idiots. NATO and the EU don't need Ukraine as an independent large state, they need a bunch of small principalities like Moldova, Georgia, Hungary or Slovakia, and until they divide it up, nothing will happen. By the way, we don't need it either: either as part of the Russian Federation, or like South Ossetia, etc. The division continues

[Petr_Koldunov]

This has happened before – Germany is an example.

Germany is NOT an example. The FRG joined NATO without any "disputed" or "occupied" territories. The GDR was an internationally recognized independent state, a full member of the UN, as well as all international organizations, including sports and cultural ones. The FRG did not have any claims to any part of the GDR and no territorial conflicts... which, in fact, allowed it to be accepted into NATO without problems.

And I thought that Poproschenko had quit drinking... but it turns out he's still drinking, since he's talking such nonsense.

[Sergey Prutkov55]

Who is Waltzman, what does he say about our territories? From the Soviet legacy they cling only to lands.