Chinese version: a shooting device for UAVs

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Chinese version: a shooting device for UAVs
An experimental firing device on a stand. Photo by SCMP


Various options for equipping unmanned aerial vehicles with small arms are regularly proposed. weapons. The weapons used are existing types, which have their own characteristics and limitations, and therefore the result does not always meet expectations. Recently, China tried to develop an original firing device, originally intended for use on UAVs and having the corresponding characteristics.



Pilot project


Once again, the Hong Kong publication South China Morning Post reported on an interesting and unusual development by Chinese scientists and designers. It revealed the very fact of the existence of an unusual experimental project, named its authors and published some technical information. They also showed the development itself.

It is reported that the original shooting device for the UAV was created at the North University of China. The authors of the project were specialists from the School of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering of the university under the leadership of Professor Liu Pengzhan.

The authors of the project studied the issue of equipping UAVs with small arms and analyzed existing models. They identified the reasons why such systems do not always meet expectations, and based on this information, they developed their own unique project.

According to SCMP, the research and design stages have been successfully completed. A prototype of the rifle-type firing device and ammunition for it have also been manufactured. They are currently being tested in laboratory conditions and demonstrating the general principles of operation, as well as determining the actual characteristics and potential of the design.

If the current work is successful, we can expect the appearance of a full-fledged prototype suitable for installation on UAV- carrier. This product will be able to demonstrate its potential in practice and, perhaps, even interest a potential customer.

However, the real prospects of the Northern University project are still in question. They directly depend on the current trials and tests. How soon this stage will be completed is not yet reported.


Close-up of cartridges. Photo by SCMP

Bench sample


During the research stage, Liu Pengzhan's team identified key shortcomings of existing projects for installing weapons on UAVs. The main problem was considered to be recoil when firing. A fairly powerful impulse affects the aerial platform and can disrupt its hovering or horizontal flight. Violation of the UAV's stability spoils the accuracy of fire and can lead to more serious consequences.

To solve this problem, specialists from the School of Mechanics and Electrical Engineering decided to create a special firing device that would minimize or completely eliminate recoil. This task was solved using well-known and proven ideas. However, they still had to be modified to meet the requirements for the future product.

In essence, it is a recoilless system in which part of the propellant gases is ejected through a nozzle in the breech. In this regard, it was necessary to design the entire firing device from scratch, as well as develop suitable ammunition for it.

The laboratory model of the firing device has a relatively simple design. Its main elements are a 7,62 mm caliber barrel of great length, as well as a cylindrical breech. In the published photo, you can see that the device is mounted on a machine and supplemented with some auxiliary components.

The design of the locking unit remains unknown, but it can be assumed that it is not complicated. The bolt has a longitudinal channel with a nozzle for removing powder gases. Reloading and automatic mechanisms are absent and not required in this device.

There is no trigger mechanism as such. Instead, an electromagnetic ignition system is used. An induction coil is built into the chamber, which initiates the ignition of the gunpowder in the cartridge.


Tech oddity — a drone with a pistol from SIG Sauer. Photo by The Warzone

An original cartridge has been developed for the "rifle". It has a cylindrical sleeve without a rim, probably made of a combustible material. Inside it is a powder charge and a metal spiral igniter. The traditional primer is missing, and instead of the base, a membrane of the required strength is used. The bullet is borrowed from the 7,62x39 mm cartridge. It is recessed inside the sleeve and practically does not protrude from the muzzle.

Achieved characteristics


The operating principle of the drone "rifle," as it stands today, is fairly simple. A round of ammunition is manually loaded into the chamber and the barrel is locked. An electrical fire control system then sends a pulse to an induction coil, which causes a coil inside the cartridge to ignite the propellant.

Under the pressure of the powder gases, the bullet moves along the barrel and is directed towards the target. At the same time, the gases break through the membrane-bottom of the cartridge case and exit through the nozzle of the breech. This creates a thrust that compensates for a significant part of the recoil impulse.

This system is reported to successfully absorb almost all recoil. When fired, the experimental device moves back only 18-20 mm. Thus, the "rifle" should not have a significant impact on the flight of the carrier drone.

Perhaps this design will be developed in the future. The firing device may receive a full-fledged ammunition supply system for single or burst firing, a more advanced control and ignition system, and other components. It is also possible to try to adapt this product for use on various carriers, which will require appropriate suspension systems, guidance, etc.

At the level of experiments


The idea of ​​equipping UAVs with small arms is quite popular, and new examples of this kind are regularly demonstrated. They are based on available drones-copters with sufficient load capacity and are equipped with existing machine guns, rifles, etc. More daring projects are also proposed, which use grenade launchers or other similar weapons.

Such developments attract attention, but usually do not develop and remain at the level of isolated technical curiosities. The reasons for this are quite simple and clear. Despite all the apparent advantages, such "unmanned strike systems" have a number of disadvantages. These include low accuracy, which is further worsened by recoil, questionable combat qualities, etc.


Testing of the Russian UAV "Perun" with an ATGM on board. Photo by the Russian Ministry of Defense

Specialists from the North University of China decided to focus on eliminating one of the main problems - recoil, which significantly worsens the overall firing characteristics. They managed to create an experimental model of a "rifle" with fairly high characteristics, as well as confirm the calculated indicators.

However, for now we are only talking about a prototype for bench tests. Apparently, the device is not yet ready for testing on an unmanned platform. In addition, the single-charge system is far from possible use in practice.

However, already at this stage, it is possible to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the new Chinese development and assess its chances of being brought to a logical conclusion. The advantages of such a shooting device include an extremely low recoil impulse and all the possibilities it opens up. In addition, the proposed design has great potential for modernization and scaling.

High performance is achieved by using an original cartridge. A UAV with a "rifle" will not be able to use a bulk cartridge and will require the production of a separate ammunition. All this can create problems in the production and logistics line.

In addition, the very need to equip UAVs with firing devices raises questions. Drones are capable of carrying other types of combat loads, such as grenades or other ammunition, and with their help demonstrate high combat qualities. At the same time, turning a copter into an ultra-light bomber does not require special means and is not difficult.

With unclear prospects


Thus, Chinese scientists and designers tried to implement a long-known and curious idea, and they approached the issue with all seriousness. They conducted research, determined the direction of work and created an experimental sample for laboratory tests.

Perhaps the project will now be developed, and in the near future the Northern University will present a full-fledged shooting device for mounting on a UAV. Whether the project will be brought to this point is still unknown. However, even in its current form, the presented sample is of technical interest.
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  1. 0
    28 November 2024 05: 44
    There are shooting UAV crafts from inventors circulating on the Internet... they are completely functional.
    I was more impressed by the use of phosphorus and napalm from UAVs...it is almost impossible to escape from their effects...they burn through everything.
    1. 0
      29 November 2024 22: 34
      use of phosphorus and napalm from UAVs

      I don't understand why they haven't started putting thermite charges on copters.
      Napalm and phosphorus are interesting, of course. But phosphorus is too problematic to use, and napalm is so-so.
      Thermite has a combustion temperature at least twice as high. If you simply land one on the roof of a parked armored vehicle, it will cause more damage than a cumulative grenade.
  2. +4
    28 November 2024 06: 13
    Hang an Abakan with an electric trigger and single fire mode?
    1. 0
      30 November 2024 05: 15
      Use Abakan as a structural element and attach four propellers to it and make a tailsitter out of it like in the Drone Gods video together with the Red Bull Formula 1 team the fastest drone and the flying AK 47 has been around for a long time
  3. +1
    28 November 2024 06: 53
    There are 6-8 charge PU for gas grenades. There are 40mm rockets on Turkish drones. PU are printed on a printer.
    6-8 incendiary or HE grenades at 200m and no machine guns are needed
  4. +2
    28 November 2024 07: 58
    Why bother? You need to scale up a regular RPG-22 if you need to decrease or increase power. In any case, you will have to align the recoil vector with the center of mass of the system. I don't think this is a problematic issue.
  5. +2
    28 November 2024 09: 29
    In fact, the arsenal includes fully functional cassette launchers for targeting and penetrating armored vehicles from above, during parachute descent.
    That is, the idea, calculations, etc. are almost ready. Take it, remove the unnecessary and adjust it to the technical specifications.

    What are you showing off for?
  6. +5
    28 November 2024 09: 37
    Why do you need a UAV shooter on the battlefield? It's not easy to hit a target with a regular small arms, but here you need to aim, looking at a tablet screen many kilometers away. Shoot at an area? How many kilograms of ammunition do you need to hang? And no one will notice a box of cartridges in the sky?
    1. 0
      28 November 2024 16: 56
      well, at least to shoot a guy with a shotgun))
    2. 0
      28 November 2024 23: 15
      Quote: Yuras_Belarus
      What is the purpose of a UAV shooter on the battlefield?

      For example, to fly up to 5-10 meters and shoot point-blank. This way you won't miss the target even through the tablet screen and the drone becomes reusable.
      1. 0
        29 November 2024 06: 58
        Fly up? And no one will notice?
        1. 0
          29 November 2024 22: 21
          Quote: Yuras_Belarus
          Fly up? And no one will notice?

          And he will notice, try to hit again. They are very sharp and small bastards.
  7. +3
    28 November 2024 10: 02
    Why shoot at a target when you can fly to it?
  8. +2
    28 November 2024 11: 13
    Another option is steel shot in a simple tube with a counterweight. The empty tube can then be dropped.
    1. 0
      28 November 2024 12: 34
      Quote: whowhy
      Another option is steel shot in a simple tube with a counterweight. The empty tube can then be dropped.

      By the way, I described such a drone even before SVO. Both on VO and on Pravda.ru. And now - it has come to life.
      1. 0
        29 November 2024 22: 12
        described such a drone even before SVO. Both on VO and on Pravda.ru.

        They just haven't done such things. Yes, and it's not easy to work with weapons. They're weapons. You need a special permit. And the drone itself is not a weapon - it's simpler, although licenses for flights are also heavier. In reality, it's easiest to do such things in weapons workshops at military units, if the commanders are advanced. And so there are various ideas and parts from existing weapons. You just need to adapt, make, test and try to promote them into production, which is difficult.
        1. +1
          30 November 2024 06: 43
          Quote: Alexey Lantukh
          try to push it into production, which is difficult.

          It's very difficult. I've been doing this since 1980, and so far without results. Although... experts say that... yes, you can patent it, you can try. The question is about money and demand.
  9. 0
    28 November 2024 12: 42
    It's only a matter of time before drones are equipped with machine guns, anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles and a lot of other stuff.
  10. +4
    28 November 2024 13: 54
    It's as simple as a cow mooing. Two identical STANDARD cartridges, shooting exactly in opposite directions. And 99% no recoil.
    But you won't make much money on this. That's why there will be special rifles with special cartridges.
    1. 0
      29 November 2024 22: 16
      Two identical STANDARD cartridges

      You can use hunting shot with special pellets.
  11. 0
    28 November 2024 18: 23
    The world is trying to develop a cartridge for such small targets, but it is more logical to move towards the development of miniature missiles, like their older brothers, and if you also make guidance, such a system will be more effective than any shotgun or special cartridge.
  12. +1
    29 November 2024 14: 28
    A very interesting topic, especially in terms of creating drone fighters.
    What about a low-power cartridge with shot, 4-6 short barrels with muzzle brakes, for example, and you can fly out to hunt?
  13. 0
    30 November 2024 05: 29
    The disadvantages include the need to strictly adhere to the technology for producing the back wall, and what is its shelf life and storage conditions? How does the back wall react to moisture, heat or cold? And a portion of gunpowder, like for sniper ammunition, needs to be hung out, or maybe not.