Where did the Russian nobility disappear to in Little Rus'?

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Where did the Russian nobility disappear to in Little Rus'?
Jan Matejko, "The Union of Lublin"


Lithuanian Russia


As previously noted more than once (History of Ukraine - Russian History), the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia (Lithuanian Rus) was a Russian Orthodox state with a Russian population. The overwhelming majority of the population and nobility were Russian. 80% of the wives of the Lithuanian princes were from the Rurik dynasty. Lithuanian boyars and warriors who came to Russian cities quickly became Russified.



The official language of Lithuania was Russian, all documents were written in Cyrillic, since the Lithuanians did not have their own written language. The code of laws of the Grand Duchy - the Lithuanian Statute of 1528, 1566 and 1588 - was compiled in Russian. Only the last version of 1588 was translated into Polish.

There was no religious oppression, as the Lithuanians were pagans, that is, they had a calm attitude towards other gods. Moreover, paganism from the times of the unity of the Rus and Lithuanians within the framework of a common superethnos (Indo-European language family) was still preserved in Lithuania. The Baltic tribes worshiped Perun, Volos-Veles, Khors and other gods common with the Rus. In Rus', especially in rural areas, dual faith was still preserved - the unification of Christianity and Russian paganism.

That is why in the 19th century, Russian historians used the aphorism: "It was not Lithuania that won, but its name." It was a Russian state with a Russian population. The Russo-Lithuanian wars were the struggle of two Russian powers for dominance over all of Russia.


Poland and Lithuania in 1526, before the Union of Lublin

Union of Lublin


Moscow was gaining the upper hand in this struggle (the Livonian War, part of which was the Russo-Lithuanian War of 1561-1570), so the Lithuanian elite decided to conclude a union with Poland, combining the military resources of the two powers against the "Muscovite threat." Poland used the military defeat of Lithuanian Rus' and its economic decline to subjugate it.

On January 10, 1569, the Polish-Lithuanian Sejm began its work near Lublin, which was to decide the issue of the union of the two states. The negotiations were difficult due to disputes between the Polish and Lithuanian nobility. The act of union was concluded on June 28, 1569 and on July 1 of the same year, it was approved separately by Polish and Grand Duchy of Lithuania deputies at the general Sejm in Lublin. On July 4, the union was ratified by the King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania Sigismund II Augustus.

Poland took advantage of the Grand Duchy's plight to take away Southern Rus'. Relying on the support of the Polish and Volyn gentry, King Sigismund II Augustus issued a decree in March 1569 on the annexation of the Podlaskie and Volynsk Voivodeships, Podolia and Kyiv to the Kingdom of Poland.

In disputes about the legitimacy of such annexations, the Poles insisted that these lands had long belonged to Poland, citing, for example, the brief capture of Kyiv by Boleslav the Brave in the 11th century. The Poles said: "Kyiv was and is the head and capital of the Russian land, and the entire Russian land, along with other fine members and parts, was annexed by previous Polish kings to the Polish crown from ancient times, annexed partly by conquest, partly by voluntary cession and inheritance from some feudal princes." It was torn away from Poland and annexed to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania by Jagiello, who ruled both Poland and Lithuania at the same time.

We are talking about the Russian land, the capital of the Russian land – Kyiv. There was no “Ukraine” or “Ukrainians” during this period. This story Rus-Russia.


Poland and Lithuania after the Union of Lublin

The fate of the Russian nobility


The Union of Lublin, which led to the emergence of the federal state of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, did not change the national and religious composition of Lithuanian and Polish Rus' (the lands of Rus' under the rule of the Polish Kingdom). The overwhelming majority of the population, the nobility - princes, boyars and nobles, were Russian, spoke Russian, were zealots of Orthodoxy. Among them were such famous Russian families as the Vishnevetskys, Ostrozhskys, etc.

However, when during the time of Catherine II the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was divided and Southern and Western Rus were returned to Russia, it turned out that only the Polish Catholic nobility remained. The common people, who in Poland were called "khlopy" (serfs-slaves), "bydlo" (working cattle), remained Russian, Orthodox, with a sprinkling of Uniates.

Where did the Russian nobility go? Did the Poles slaughter them? There was no massacre. The Poles and Jesuits simply "reformatted", "reprogrammed", seduced the Russian princely-boyar families. In the 18th century, this process of Polonization and Catholicization of the Russian gentry was almost completely completed.

On the one hand, it was not profitable to remain Russian and Orthodox. The Orthodox were gradually deprived of political and economic rights. In order to get a good position, to get up, one had to know Polish. It was not difficult, Russian and Polish were closely related languages, the Poles (Western Polyans) were still part of the superethnos of the Rus during the time of the first Rurikovichs. It was necessary to accept Catholicism, to study in Jesuit schools, where the Westernization of young nobles took place.

That is, In order to make a career in the Polish Kingdom, to serve the king or in elected bodies, to avoid paying additional taxes, to suppress, to receive the privileges that the Catholic gentry had, it was necessary to Polonize.

It is interesting that the Ukrainization of Little Russia after 1917 took place in approximately the same way. Through the Ukrainization of the administrative apparatus, army, culture and education system. It was advantageous to become a “Ukrainian”, a representative of the “titular nation” (How Ukrainians appeared; Ethnic genocide of Russians in Ukraine).

At the same time, the Polish colonization of Southern Rus (Little Russia) took place. New lands were often transferred to Polish gentry, who moved to the east. The southern Russian peasantry was strictly enslaved, following the example of the Polish. In essence, the peasants became "khlops" - slaves. The peasant was under the complete jurisdiction of the gentry, who not only judged him, but could also impose punishments up to and including the death penalty. Many new taxes, levies, and corvee - forced labor for the benefit of the crown or feudal lord - were introduced. At first, it was limited to one day a week, but soon the number of days of corvee began to grow rapidly and reach 200 days a year and more.

On the other hand, the Poles “seduced” the Russian nobility with political freedom, education, freedom of customs and the rights that the gentry had.

School is the cornerstone of Westernization


Before the so-called "Mongol" invasion, the cultural level of Rus was higher than in Poland. But then the situation began to change. Lithuanian and Polish Rus were dense Ukrainian outskirts that were constantly surrounded by "fronts" - in the north by the Crusaders and Swedes, in the west by the Poles, in the east by Muscovite Rus, in the south by the Tatars, Crimean Tatars and later by the Turks. Papal Rome also played a significant role, demanding that the Swedes, Hanseatic League and Poles not allow goods, books, craftsmen and scientists to enter Rus.

Europe was experiencing a Renaissance in art, a noticeable leap in science and technology (especially in military affairs). All Western innovations freely penetrated Poland. There was a university in Krakow. Under King Stefan Batory, the education system in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth fell into the hands of the Jesuits. The Order of Jesus was a truly powerful secret service, which gradually spread its networks across the entire planet. The Jesuits acted by persuasion, poison and dagger. Their power was information, control over science and education.

In 1570, the Jesuits opened a college (school) in Vilnius, which was soon transformed into a university (academy) and given equal rights with the university in Krakow. The highest officials of the Grand Duchy protested against this – Chancellor Nikolai Radziwill the Red (a Protestant Calvinist) and Vice-Chancellor Eustachy Volovich (Orthodox). They understood perfectly well that the main goal of the Jesuits was not the education of youth, but power and the spread of Catholicism.

In 1579, the Jesuits opened a school in Polotsk, in 1582 – in Riga. The Jesuits took over the upbringing and education of the youth. Their schools were attended not only by children of the Catholic gentry, but also by young men from Orthodox and Protestant families. There was no alternative to receiving a first-class education, which was necessary for a future career. Naturally, at the end of the school year, the young people were already ardent adherents of Catholicism, devoted and intelligent servants of the papal throne.

Under the influence of the Jesuits, noble Orthodox and other dissident (as Orthodox and Protestants were called in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) families quickly converted to Latinism. Poland in the 16th century easily accepted the Reformation, but the Jesuits also easily returned the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to the bosom of the "universal" church.

Since the end of the 16th century, the Orthodox nobility has been disappearing, this process was especially rapid in the first half of the 17th century. The main reason for this process is the active work of the Jesuit order. The Jesuits hardly used violence in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (with rare exceptions), their main weapons there was education, school.

It is worth noting that since 1917 and especially since 1991, the Ukrainization of Little Russia, the former Ukrainian SSR, has been carried out using the same methods. In the Russian Federation since the 2000s, the Westernization of the education system has taken place. In Russia, the school has been given over to the power of Western programs and standards. And then they wonder why young people don't like "this country" and want to go abroad. You just have to understand that school is the foundation of foundations. Without an advanced school and an enlightened teacher, there will be no great power.

Dozens of schools were founded in Orthodox areas. Their schools had two main advantages: 1) they were free. Receiving a large income all over the world, the order could afford to create a system of free education. Parents, if they wanted, could bring voluntary gifts of money or food. For the poor gentry (the overwhelming majority were servants), this was important; 2) Jesuit schools provided an excellent education for that time. The students of the Jesuits received a decent education, knowledge of Latin was especially valued. This was a sign of a cultured person, like, for example, knowledge of English now, and in the XNUMXth century - French.

Almost all the nobility in Lithuania was Orthodox, but dissidents were removed from governance, from the most important positions in the state apparatus. In order not to remain "on the sidelines of life", the Orthodox gentry rather quickly in historical terms adopted Catholicism. The Polish language was introduced in official, public affairs, schools.

Method of cultural cooperation


Another factor in the Polonization of the Russian nobility was cultural. The method of cultural cooperation. In schools and universities, Russian young men found themselves surrounded by Polish peers. They studied Polish and Latin, met the relatives of their Catholic classmates. Feasts, hunts, balls and drinking bouts.

Young Polish women, given that Poland had adopted the free morals of European courts, were much more relaxed and free than Orthodox noblewomen who sat in their towers under the control of their relatives. Mixed marriages were common, and the wedding was always held according to the Catholic rite. The grooms converted to Latinism. Thus, the female factor also played its role in the "seduction" of the Russian nobility.

At the same time, in Jesuit schools and academies, they instilled contempt for "heretics", "the lower race", both peasants and priests, nobles. Orthodox youths came to schools, and Catholic fanatics came out, hating dissident heretics.

Therefore, during the Russian People's War of Bohdan Khmelnitsky, many magnates, descended from ancient Russian families, like Prince Yarema Vishnevetsky, drowned the rebellion of the "rabble" in blood. Instead of leading the Russian people in the fight against the Polish colonizers.

A special psychology of the Polish gentry, the lords, was also formed. Pride, arrogance, arrogance and contempt for the "rabble". They talked about equality and freedom, but no one took advantage of them, only the rich lords and magnates. The overwhelming majority of the gentry served the rich lords. They were completely dependent on whoever fed, watered, clothed and gave them gifts. To the point that they tolerated beatings from their masters (on the condition that they were beaten on a carpet, not on the bare ground) and gave them their wives and daughters as concubines in order to have privileges and receive gifts.

The general decay of the Polish elite ultimately destroyed this Slavic empire. The northern Russian "barbarians" returned Lithuanian and Polish Rus' to the united Russian state and destroyed Poland itself, which was never able to create a project of unity between Poles and Russians.


Fight of Maksim Krivonos with Ieremii Vishnevetskiy. Artist: Nikolai Samokish
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  1. +4
    2 December 2024 05: 28
    School is the foundation of foundations. Without an advanced school and an enlightened teacher there will be no great power.
    And what have they done to our school!
  2. +3
    2 December 2024 06: 41
    Somehow Mr. Samsonov's logic is not very good, if it is a "super-ethnos", then it is also very powerful, then the question is, if someone crushed it, then it is even more of a "super-ethnos" than the defeated one, the other option, it fell apart on its own, it is doubtful then to call a loose structure by such a term.
    1. +1
      3 December 2024 14: 10
      "Superethnos" is a late term. It was introduced, I think, by Gumilev, and he had a hard time with terms in general. It does not mean "powerful", but "superethnic", i.e. "superethnos" is a supraethnic formation that includes features of spiritual and material culture belonging to different ethnic groups that are part of it. And in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, for a time, it really was so. It's just that first the Slavs assimilated the Baltic elements, and then the Poles successfully assimilated elements of Orthodoxy (But where we are talking about the struggle of cultures, purely ethnic terms no longer work).
      Catholics have done it so successfully that, in terms of the upper crust, they have practically disappeared. Yarema Vishnevetsky's father, mother and sister are Orthodox. His uncle (later Yarema's guardian) Konstantin is a Protestant. And just imagine what happened to Yarema... So, in terms of Catholic superness, you are right, it has proven itself stronger than Orthodoxy for the upper crust, and, interestingly, more tolerant for the lower crust (the church union is an example of this).
      Strictly speaking, a "new supra-ethnic community - the Soviet man" should have emerged in the Union; they even reported about this in the 60s, but it didn't take off...
  3. +3
    2 December 2024 07: 04
    Papal Rome also played a significant role, demanding that the Swedes, Hanseatic League and Poles not allow goods, books, craftsmen and scientists to enter Rus'.
    I wonder how Rome could demand anything from the Lutherans, Swedes and Hanseatic Leagues? Well, Poles, obviously, papists, but they didn't make the weather in the Baltic.
    1. +5
      2 December 2024 07: 23
      hi I wonder how Rome could demand anything from the Lutherans, Swedes and Hanseatic Leagues? He is the author, that's how he sees it. laughing
    2. +3
      2 December 2024 09: 11
      Quote: Nagan
      I wonder how Rome could demand anything from the Lutherans, Swedes and Hanseatic Leagues?
      Just as the Soviet government demanded that the US withdraw its troops from Vietnam, and the American government demanded that the USSR respect human rights. At the same time, some professed the ideology of socialism, and others capitalism. And they also demanded something from each other wink
  4. +7
    2 December 2024 08: 03
    I will repeat myself again, but Lithuanian Rus' - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, was not a separate independent state, but it was the same Russian principality as Vladimir Rus', Suzdal Rus', Ryazan Grand Duchy, Murom Principality, Kievan Rus', Grand Duchy of Moscow, etc. And there were wars between these principalities, and there are dozens of examples of them, internecine wars of Russian principalities, most often for power and primacy in Russian lands. For example, the descendant of Dmitry Donskoy, Grand Duke Vasily the Dark, fought against Grand Duke Shemyaka, just as Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy himself fought against Grand Duke Olgerd, and Grand Duke Vasily the First fought against Grand Duke Vitovt. Only the great princes of Moscow, Vladimir, Suzdal, Kievan Rus were descendants of the Rurikovichs, and the princes of Lithuanian Rus were descendants of the Gediminovichs. All this was best reflected by Mikeshin on the Monument to the Millennium of Rus in Veliky Novgorod. It displays all the Honored and Great who created and built the Russian state. Among them are the Great Princes of Lithuanian Rus - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania Gedimin, Olgerd, Vitovt.
    But there is no one from the Jagiellonian dynasty on that monument. This is because the weakened Principality of Lithuanian Rus' fell under Poland, which absorbed the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Union of Lublin was created, i.e. the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and the former Lithuanian Rus' together with Poland and under the command of Poland, had a new goal - to tear apart and destroy the state that grew from a small Moscow principality into the mighty Russian Kingdom. Now they are trying to do this not through the center through Moscow, but on the former outskirts of the Russian Empire.
    By the way, regarding the monument to the Millennium of Rus' in Veliky Novgorod. I had to read somewhere that Emperor Alexander II "twisted the arms" of Mikeshin and Schroeder so that the monument would not have a figure of Ivan the Terrible, just as Khrushchev later did to Vuchetich so that the sculpture of the Motherland in Volgograd would be made of concrete, and not bronze or granite, as Vuchetich had originally had the idea for in the project. Then, according to the project approved by Khrushchev, under Brezhnev, nothing was changed, so this monument was created from concrete. Is this true or not?
  5. -2
    2 December 2024 09: 02
    The official language of Lithuania was Russian
    Somehow the Lithuanians, Samogitians, Samogitians themselves somehow did not become Russified and did not speak Russian, or did the damned West again invent Lithuanian, like Belarusian, Ukrainian, Moldovan laughing
    1. +6
      2 December 2024 11: 09
      Medieval Lithuania is not the same as the modern Republic of Lithuania. The Lithuanians did not have a single state territory, but a conglomerate of tribal territories. It was an anarchy of tribes fighting among themselves and raiding their neighbors. The territory of their settlement stretched from the present-day cities of Grodno and Novogrudok (in the Middle Ages - Gorodnya and Novogrudok) to Klaipeda. Prince Mindaugas managed not to create a state, but to subordinate the southern and some eastern Lithuanian tribes to his supreme power. In the modern world, this was the territory of the north and northwest of the Grodno region and the vicinity of Vilnius. The rest of modern Lithuania consisted of the Lithuanian tribes of Samogitians and Aukštaitiians. Their territories were mainly considered to be Lithuanian, but the knights of the Teutonic Order quickly went on the offensive there and for most of the time it was an arena of battles and redistribution of borders. Mindaugas' Lithuania failed to contain the Teutons and internal enemies. Mindaugas had to flee from the conspiracy of tribal princes to the Slavic Novogorodok (now Novogrudok, Grodno region). The prince was an experienced military leader and was not from the host of rival Russian princes and dukes, so the Novogorodok veche invited Mindaugas to reign on the condition of accepting Christianity according to the Orthodox rite. Since then, Novogorodok became the first capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Russia and Samogitia. The name of the state coincided with the birthplace of the first Grand Duke and the ethnic composition of the majority of the population and the claims to the lands for which they were disputing with the Teutons. And Mindaugas' homeland itself has long been located in the Slavic territory of northwestern Belarus.
    2. +3
      2 December 2024 11: 18
      The official language of Lithuania was Russian. Somehow the Lithuanians themselves, Samogitians, Zhmudians, somehow did not become Russified and did not speak Russian, or did the damned West again come up with Lithuanian, like Belarusian, Ukrainian, Moldovan laughing

      It was said: the paperwork was conducted...
      1. 0
        2 December 2024 11: 43
        Wow, they did a great job of keeping records, but they still haven't become Russified.
        1. 0
          5 December 2024 12: 33
          After all, maybe fifty people in the entire state were involved in paperwork.
          The peasantry spoke Russian, but probably didn’t even think that it was possible to write in Russian...
  6. +2
    2 December 2024 10: 25
    Quite controversial statements. The Ostrozhsky princes remained in Orthodoxy, not princes, but also a rich and influential Aksakov family. But those who betrayed Orthodoxy and the people as a whole were the priests. For a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies, no one even threatened them, they just wanted to eat tasty food and drink sweets. Although in the same England, in 1555, several Protestant pastors went to the stake, but did not renounce their faith. People consciously chose a terrible death - because they believed. And not like now, when for many priests it is just a business, not dusty, but profitable. But in Ukraine, now the process of cleansing the church is underway. Whoever survives, truly believes. Whoever defects or runs away - everything is clear.
  7. 0
    2 December 2024 10: 49
    We are talking about the Russian land, the capital of the Russian land – Kyiv. There was no “Ukraine” or “Ukrainians” during this period. This is the history of Rus-Russia.

    hmm, just out of interest, where and when did the Ukrainians show up?
    Papal Rome also played a significant role, demanding that the Swedes, Hanseatic League and Poles not allow goods, books, craftsmen and scientists to enter Rus'.

    Well, there were architects from Italy, foundrymen from the German principalities too, even landsknechts were in Moscow service...
    but I remember the trip to Moscow of the "Lithuanian" first printer F. Skorina (30 years before Fedorov), the guy was glad that he returned back almost in one piece and to hell with those books...
    and we can also remember where Ivan Fedorov lived...
    Another factor in the Polonization of the Russian nobility was cultural. The method of cultural cooperation. In schools and universities, Russian young men found themselves surrounded by Polish peers. They studied Polish and Latin, met the relatives of their Catholic classmates. Feasts, hunts, balls and drinking bouts.

    yeah, wherever you look, Paris, Pisa, Prague, everywhere there are only Polish Catholics...
    But they did not lead the Russian people in the fight against the Polish colonizers.
    I came across some interesting figures about how serfs fled to these same lords, and about their real tyranny.
    Mixed marriages were concluded everywhere, and the wedding was always conducted according to the Catholic rite. The grooms converted to Latinism. Thus, the female factor also played its role in the "seduction" of the Russian nobility.
    There were also Jews here, but for some reason they did not assimilate....
    The overwhelming majority of the gentry served the rich lords. They were completely dependent on whoever fed them, gave them drink, clothed them, and gave them gifts. They even tolerated beatings from their lords (on the condition that they beat them on a carpet, not on the bare ground) and gave them their wives and daughters as concubines in order to have privileges and receive gifts.

    hmm, but in the Russian Empire there was nothing like this? (except for the carpet)

    P.S. There are some correct things in the article, but overall it’s propaganda.
    1. +2
      2 December 2024 15: 33
      Quote: george.old
      There were also Jews here, but for some reason they did not assimilate....

      I'm embarrassed to ask - have they at least assimilated somewhere?
      Remember Spain, where control over the observance of Christian rituals and the rejection of Judaism by Jews who converted to Christianity (“assimilated”) had to be entrusted to the Inquisition.
    2. +2
      2 December 2024 18: 21
      Quote: george.old
      hmm, just out of interest, where and when did the Ukrainians show up?

      Ukrainians were created by Poles and Austrians during the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the mid-19th century. Galicia - Western Rus', was part of it for a long time, the inhabitants of which were overwhelmingly Rusyns, who considered themselves part of a single Russian civilization and considered themselves Russian Orthodox people.
      The Austrians knew very well that the local population was ardently sympathetic to the Russian Empire and considered itself exclusively a part of it, and accordingly there was an uprising in these territories.
      Well, then they followed the old Jesuit scheme, Catholicization of local authorities and nobility. And reformatting Russians into some Ukrainians, who had been oppressed by Russia for centuries. The Poles took the most active part in changing the self-awareness of the Rusyns. Thus, in historical terms, in a fairly short time, the Little Russians were reformatted into Ukrainians, and Little Russia into Ukraine. Only then they failed to fully implement the Ukrainian project, the Russian Empire fell under the onslaught of the revolutionaries and the Ukrainian project was completed by the Bolsheviks.
      The forced Ukrainization of Russians in the Ukrainian SSR continued even under the hunchback until 1991. And it continued under Banderastat.
      1. -1
        7 December 2024 02: 25
        Here I remember, here I don’t remember. And don’t you remember the Russification under the Union in the Ukrainian SSR starting from the 70s? It got to the point that it was shameful to speak Ukrainian in Kyiv. And before that, the Poles polonized the Ukrainians until the 17th century, and the Muscovites after, the Valuev Circular was published long before Austria-Hungary. And yes, because of the fear of a Polish uprising. And thus, Polish, Russian and the language of tsarist Russia mixed in Ukraine, it is not for nothing that modern Russians in Russia are almost unable to understand any of the Slavic languages. The Commonwealth included the Rus’ Voivodeship with its center in Lviv. The territory of modern Ukraine was part of Poland from the 12th to the 17th century, then part of Russia until the 20th century. The right bank of Ukraine is more polonized, the left bank is Russified. As a result of these influences, the modern Ukrainian language finally took shape only in the 20th century. By the way, clap is not a slave, but a man in many Slavic languages.
  8. +4
    2 December 2024 11: 47
    Modern Lithuania, which grew out of the eastern Balts, has nothing to do with that Slavic Lithuania described in the article, because it is a complete duplicate of the ancient Ukrainians, who created the DNA molecule, then created from it Homo sapiens'and, as a result, taught all of humanity science and culture. Thus, the expression - It wasn't Lithuania that won, but its name - most accurately expresses the essence of this Baltic pseudo-state...

    Pope Pius II wrote in one of his letters back in the middle of the 15th century: the language of the people of Lithuania is Slavic...
  9. +2
    2 December 2024 11: 53
    Quote: north 2
    Kievan Rus


    Kievan Rus is a 19th century term. Kievan Principality.
    The term "Kievan Rus" arose in the first half of the 1837th century. One of the first to use it was M. A. Maksimovich in his work "Where does the Russian land come from" (XNUMX) in a narrow geographical sense to designate the Kievan principality.
    The term was used in the same meaning by S. M. Solovyov, N. I. Kostomarov and D. I. Ilovaisky.
    In the second half of the 1169th century, the term acquired an additional, chronological dimension - one of the periods of Russian history and statehood. In this case, this period usually ended in XNUMX, which was associated with the idea that existed in pre-revolutionary historiography about the transfer of the capital of Rus from Kyiv to Vladimir.
  10. +4
    2 December 2024 12: 07
    The Jesuits, in a few centuries, "created" second-class Europeans from the Poles, and from the Ukrainians, in an even shorter historical time, a mass of population needed by Europe only as "cannon fodder", and they will simply destroy us, Russians, in the event of a historical defeat. And this is not just a fight "not for life, but to the death", this is a fight forever.
  11. +5
    2 December 2024 12: 08
    The official language of Lithuania was Russian, all documents were written in Cyrillic, since the Lithuanians did not have their own written language. The code of laws of the Grand Duchy – the Lithuanian Statute of 1528, 1566 and 1588 – was written in Russian.

    The peculiarities of modern terminology can be misleading, the Russian language at that time was not quite the same as the one we speak and write in now. The concept of "Russian language" in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Principality of Moscow at that time was understood to mean something completely different.
    The language of writing and business in the Moscow Principality at that time was Church Slavonic ("Slovenian"), it was then called the "Russian language" in Moscow. The spoken language differed from the written "Slovenian", later Lomonosov used the grammar of the Church Slavonic language by Melentiy Smotritsky "Grammar of the Slavic Correct Syntagma" (from which Lomonosov himself learned to read and write) to create "Russian Grammar" and after that the convergence of the spoken and written languages ​​began, right up to the 20th century (but even in the second half of the 19th century there was a difference between the spoken and the literary written language, Dal compiled a dictionary of the spoken "living great Russian language"), as a result of which the literary Russian language was formed, in which we now communicate.

    And in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, the Russian language (Western Russian, as it is called) was opposed to Church Slavonic; these were different languages ​​(although Western Russian partially used elements of Church Slavonic).
    Belarusian and Ukrainian later originated from Western Russian.
    In this case, the name "Russian" in the Muscovite state referred to the Church Slavonic language, that is, "Russian" and "Slovene" (Church Slavonic) languages ​​were synonyms in Moscow; and in Lithuania, the name "Russian" denoted a language opposed to Church Slavonic, that is, "Russian" and "Slovene" languages ​​in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania had completely different meanings. "Prostu mova" of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was called "Lithuanian" or "Belarusian" language in Moscow[17]. In the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (as well as in those lands of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania that were ceded to Poland in 1569), writers in the 18th-19th centuries also sometimes called it Lithuanian[20]. At present, the literary and business language of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in Belarus is more often defined as Old Belarusian[21][XNUMX], and in Ukraine as Old Ukrainian[XNUMX]
    1. 0
      5 December 2024 02: 30
      The spoken language differed from the written "Slovene" language; later Lomonosov used the grammar of the Church Slavonic language of Melentiy Smotritsky

      A well-structured theory with Lomonosov and the grammar of Melentiy Smotritsky... but where to insert Peter the Great's reform of the Russian language here?

      On January 29 (February 8), 1710, Peter the Great's reform of the Russian language was carried out in Russia, the essence of which was to simplify the composition of the Russian alphabet and exclude from the alphabet such redundant letters as "psi", "ksi", "omega", and the outline of the letters was also changed.
      And the spoken everyday language was no different from the written everyday language, people spoke and wrote as they did. This is evident from the literature itself...
      And the church used, yes, the Church Slavonic version for its book needs, because it is the canon. And by the way, it still uses it.
  12. +3
    2 December 2024 12: 30
    that's why Ukrainians, especially Western ones, hate Poles and their liberators, the Russians, because they themselves were Polish cattle, although they accuse their eastern neighbors of slavery...
    1. +2
      2 December 2024 19: 09
      their liberators were Russians because they themselves were Polish cattle

      just for fun, well, the tsarist or imperial troops liberated the Ukrainians from the evil Poles... and what happened next? The troops left and the Ukrainians began to live their own lives or became someone's serfs?
  13. 0
    2 December 2024 14: 32
    The author apparently read too much Shirokorad.
    Was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania a Russian Orthodox state?
    Hardly. From the very beginning of its existence, the Lithuanian state had a Latin 'smell'. Thus, its founder Mindaugas accepted Catholicism. And even though he later renounced Christianity, the very fact that he preferred Catholicism to Orthodoxy speaks of his orientation towards Latin Europe and not towards the Orthodox Russian lands and Byzantium.
    Later, the Grand Dukes of Lithuania negotiated baptism according to the Latin rite (Gediminas and others).
    After the conclusion of the Krewo Union with Poland, Jagiello issued a privilege (1387), which could only be used by persons of the Catholic faith. The second privilege (1413) of Vitovt and Jagiello was also directed only at persons of the Catholic faith.
    That is, the Orthodox inhabitants of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were already placed in an unequal position compared to Catholics from the end of the 14th century.
    What a fine 'Orthodox state'!
    The Lithuanian princes were generally not firm in their faith.
    The Tver Chronicle, for example, calls Vitovt a 'polytheist', the Pskov Chronicle calls him a 'filthy apostate of the true Christian faith, a reprobate of God, a son of the devil, an unbeliever in the truth', and in the life of the Orthodox saint Paphnutius of Borovsk (a saint of the 15th century) there is a story about how one nun saw Vitovt in hell.
    It is obvious that the Orthodox population of the Russian lands clearly did not like the Lithuanian princes, despite the efforts of the current "Lithuanians" to present Lithuania as an alternative to Moscow.
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    4 December 2024 02: 08
    Well, it's funny to read about "the evil Poles took advantage, the Lithuanians, oh, pardon me, the Litovourians didn't know anything", you cleverly threw out the Krewo Union of 1385, and the Jagiellonian dynasty on the throne in Poland, and even a cursory examination of the religious preferences of the Lithuanian princes is enough to understand that Lithuania was not and certainly did not intend to become a "second Orthodox Rus'", but rather quite systematically moved towards Polonization and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth without any beating around the bush, and if it wanted to do anything with the Orthodox, it was to subjugate them - see Bulgarian Cyprian. Well, the majority of the Orthodox - princes and others changed their shoes very quickly, and no one asked the opinion of the serfs and did not intend to ask.