From ATACMS to Oreshnik: A Task with an Asterisk for Donald Trump

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From ATACMS to Oreshnik: A Task with an Asterisk for Donald Trump

One of the questions after the combat test of the hypersonic Oreshnik is whether any deal with the US on Ukraine is needed on the conceptual terms outlined in the American media? This question arises against the backdrop of both the use of the latest Russian IRBM, which, as one figure in Kyiv stated, “Russia does not have,” and Zelensky’s actual demands to Trump to provide him with a “plan for a deal with Russia,” which the US president-elect allegedly has.

Meanwhile, the West believes that Russia's response to the strikes from Ukrainian territory by American and British rockets in the Kursk and Bryansk regions is something Donald Trump needs to analyze right now. If the US president-elect had a plan to “end the Ukrainian conflict in 24 hours,” then Biden’s authorization of NATO long-range strikes on Russia weapons (ATACMS, Storm Shadow) could have been exactly what was supposed to crumple this plan and initially make Trump look like a regular chatterbox. That is, according to the Democrats, Trump will take a long time to "mature" to make his decision against the backdrop of what happened, and this can be used in domestic American political rhetoric as a way to show: "You elected Trump, but he is not adapted to modern conditions, he promised - but did not do it."



So, the Democratic Party and the deep state decided to act as those who set the “starred” task for Trump. And the “starred” tasks are for the “military and political” top students…

Mikhail Leontyev's thoughts on the program "Odnako":

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  1. +1
    24 November 2024 09: 19
    Trump has four "fun" years of presidency ahead of him. He promised a lot, but how to implement it all? Within the States, the migrant issue alone is worth something, and the huge debt, the trade war with China, Ukraine, in short, you can't envy him. But let's hope that he gets bogged down in domestic problems and he won't have time for Ukraine, and we'll somehow sort out Europe ourselves, not for the first time.
    1. 0
      24 November 2024 09: 35
      They all promise a lot of things during the elections. And as a rule, they do little - they make excuses about the changed situation.
      1. 0
        24 November 2024 09: 40
        Trump can simply dump Project 404. And all his words will be confirmed. Now it will no longer be possible to establish a dialogue on the previous terms of partnership. This is what "enlightened" Europe should think about.
        1. 0
          24 November 2024 10: 34
          Quote from Mitos
          Now it will no longer be possible to establish a dialogue on the previous terms of partnership.

          So we still have a trump card, this is Zelensky's decree not to conduct any negotiations with Russia. Its cancellation will be like a triggered alarm warning about a possible deal, i.e. about negotiations. winked
          1. 0
            24 November 2024 12: 17
            This decree, like a worthless document, may not be observed. A deal can be made without 404, and if anything, she did not sign it, or signed it but it is not valid because there is a law. 1001 ways of political deception.
            1. 0
              24 November 2024 13: 49
              Quote from Mitos
              This decree, like a worthless document, may not be observed. A deal can be made without 404, and if anything, she did not sign it, or signed it but it is not valid because there is a law. 1001 ways of political deception.

              This is if the deal doesn't need to be signed, but we need to explain why we can't sign...
              1. 0
                24 November 2024 14: 18
                The minus-takers have come running. A fixed match on paper is not worth more than this paper, and in words it is worth nothing. Only the guarantee of an answer keeps them from acting. The fate of 404 and its existence now depends on our decision, and not on the owners of 404. Why do we need such a fixed match if it is equivalent to losing.
                Then Belarus will change its shoes, thanks to Bata there is now a remnant of the union, and management is carried out through gas companies, but they preserve the memory of history, even Polish. Without him there would be collapse, division and poverty. All this is what the Western neighbors do not like.
                1. +1
                  24 November 2024 14: 29
                  Quote from Mitos
                  The minus-takers have come running. A fixed match on paper is not worth more than this paper, and in words it is worth nothing. Only the guarantee of an answer keeps them from acting. The fate of 404 and its existence now depends on our decision, and not on the owners of 404. Why do we need such a fixed match if it is equivalent to losing.
                  Then Belarus will change its shoes, thanks to Bata there is now a remnant of the union, and management is carried out through gas companies, but they preserve the memory of history, even Polish. Without him there would be collapse, division and poverty. All this is what the Western neighbors do not like.

                  Everything is so, even that
                  Quote from Mitos
                  The minus-takers have arrived.
      2. +1
        24 November 2024 09: 43
        Quote: Nexcom
        They all promise a lot of things during the elections. And as a rule, they do little - they make excuses about the changed situation.

        As the saying goes: three categories of people always lie - hunters and fishermen, lovers and politicians before elections wink
        1. 0
          24 November 2024 10: 36
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Quote: Nexcom
          They all promise a lot of things during the elections. And as a rule, they do little - they make excuses about the changed situation.

          As the saying goes: three categories of people always lie - hunters and fishermen, lovers and politicians before elections wink

          Yes, only the second and third before the events, and the fishermen-hunters after hunting-fishing. Yes
          1. +1
            24 November 2024 14: 27
            Quote: Clear
            Yes, only the second and third before the events, and fishermen-hunters after hunting-fishing yes

            I would say it a little differently - the first and third ones lie to people with their stories, and the second ones lie rather to themselves. wink
            But, as the hero of one popular TV series said, everyone lies Yes hi
    2. +2
      24 November 2024 09: 45
      Actually, "promising and implementing" are slightly different things. In our country, we have no fewer, if not more, problems with migrants, but Trump at least promises to try to solve this issue, unlike us. They don't care about the huge debt. The trade war with China is also not so clear-cut. And yes, the US will "dump" the Ukraine problem on Europe - this was the original goal of the NWO for the US and Britain.
      It is premature to "bury" the United States.
      1. 0
        24 November 2024 10: 38
        Quote: Vladimir M
        In our country, there are no fewer, if not more, issues with migrants.

        Now, on this issue with migrants, I completely agree with you.
  2. +2
    24 November 2024 09: 36
    The Western media are already working ahead of the curve, they have collected all the "highly-likely" and double standards from the time of almost Peter the Great - Emperor Putin V.V. must be stopped and preferably forever. Trump will go in the same direction, in the Western media controlled by media magnates. Musk and Carlson do not count, but they are weak against this machine.
    1. +2
      24 November 2024 09: 41
      There are always intelligent people who can think with their own heads and globally. But they are few and far between and are weak against the machine.
    2. 0
      24 November 2024 09: 55
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Western media are already working ahead of the curve, they have collected all the "highly-likely"

      Astrologers have declared the month of "Hazelnut". Military experts have learned a new word in just two incomplete days.
    3. -1
      24 November 2024 10: 41
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The Western media are already working ahead of the curve, they have collected all the "highly-likely" and double standards from the time of almost Peter the Great - Emperor Putin V.V. must be stopped, and preferably forever.

      This means that in opposition, it is necessary to create media outlets in the East, and there is no need to collect facts against the West, just explain to the audience the satanic goals of their actions, which are ultimately aimed at plundering the resources of Russia and other countries.
  3. +4
    24 November 2024 09: 45
    The question for Russia is not Trump or any other US president. At this point in time, we are faced with the question of Putin's or Stalin's strikes on Ukraine. History teaches us and helps us. If you need to set fire to a barn, you need to set it on fire. You need to set fire to the Baltics, set fire to Poland, they are not our relatives, as they themselves claim. soldier
    1. 0
      24 November 2024 10: 46
      Quote: V.
      The question for Russia is not Trump or any other US president. At this point in time, we are faced with the question of Putin's or Stalin's strikes on Ukraine. History teaches us and helps us. If you need to set fire to a barn, you need to set it on fire. You need to set fire to the Baltics, set fire to Poland, they are not our relatives, as they themselves claim. soldier

      That's right. For example, the Balts are leading themselves to this, stubbornly, consistently, with fury, rudeness, idiocy and... their stinking sprats. And our fighters will beat them with no less pleasure than mercenaries.
      1. +2
        24 November 2024 12: 49
        The Balts are all leading to this themselves, stubbornly, consistently, with fury, rudeness, idiocy
        - "Do you want to?!... break me... break me completely!..." (c)
        The Balts have nothing to lose.
        1. 0
          24 November 2024 14: 32
          Quote: Deadush
          The Balts are all leading to this themselves, stubbornly, consistently, with fury, rudeness, idiocy
          - "Do you want to?!... break me... break me completely!..." (c)
          The Balts have nothing to lose.

          Let them have no doubt that in order to create a sanitary zone from NATO, we must break them like flour in a mill.
  4. +2
    24 November 2024 09: 48
    After all, our Supreme Commander chose the right time to show his trump cards!
    1. +1
      24 November 2024 10: 50
      Quote: pudelartemon
      After all, our Supreme Commander chose the right time to show his trump cards!

      winked I remembered.

      "Who is the greatest in the world?"
      — Obama whispers to the mirror...
      And the answer: “Please don’t take offense,
      The coolest of all, of course, is Putin!
  5. 0
    24 November 2024 09: 52
    Wait and see.... belay
    _______________________________
    1. -1
      24 November 2024 10: 50
      Quote: Sergei N 58912062
      Wait and see.... belay
      _______________________________

      So, who has been living there for a long time? winked
  6. +3
    24 November 2024 10: 05
    Why, with the declared course towards a multipolar world, that is, sailing away from a unipolar world, be ready to "consider proposals" from the center of a unipolar world? Secondly, if we consider the Ukrainian people to be part of the Russian people, and what is happening in Ukraine to be our misfortune, then what does the US have to do with it, being on the other side of the world?
    If we take Oreshnik seriously, then the questions to the SVO are: why did we abandon the task of denazifying Ukraine and why have we been waiting for years for negotiations and agreements with the actual organizer of the war against us?
    Waiting for negotiations and many years of non-response to the war against the West is nothing other than recognition of the primacy of the hegemon Uncle Sam. Recognition of Russia's location in the attractor of the unipolar world, which is not surprising - social institutions are copied from the West. Recognition of hypocrisy and deception about the multipolar aspiration. And we abandoned our path in the 90s - we are refuseniks, and for this the Sting bird is above us.
  7. +1
    24 November 2024 11: 27
    Trump will definitely not be as incapacitated as he was during his last term.
    When he was hanging under the threat of impeachment, fending off the "Kremlin agent" labeled on him, had hostile Congress, the Senate and the intelligence community, and also had to think about re-election.
    So he has the motivation to become the second Roosevelt, who broke the "deep staters" over his knee.
    And, whatever one may say, the times of FDR were times of maximum rapprochement and interaction with Russia (under the name USSR).
    To the point that they helped us to industrialize and win the war against the EU, we helped them to make money on industrialization and the European war, and we (according to the Americans themselves) brought their victory over Japan a couple of years closer.
    At the same time, the United States did not have hegemony at that time, and did not try to tell Stalin who to appoint where (except, perhaps, for the “Jewish question”, that is a separate story, and the “cosmopolitan case” did not arise out of nowhere).
    Even the pre-agreed Bretton Woods system was a prototype of a more or less reasonable and fair world currency.
    But...after Roosevelt's death everything went differently for them, after Stalin's death - for us.
    So the role of the Individual in the leadership of a country, especially a superpower, cannot be denied.
    And Trump has a chance, especially with self-sufficient allies Musk, Carlson, Vance and Gabbard. You can move mountains, if you want. Through "unpopular but tough decisions."
    These people know "who ate whose meat" and who needs to be hit in the "sly red face".