Boris Aleksandrovich Turaev: a life dedicated to the history of Egypt

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Boris Aleksandrovich Turaev: a life dedicated to the history of Egypt
Turaev, Boris Aleksandrovich, associate professor. Illustration from the Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary


"[...] Now, at the end of the 20th century, thousands of people in our country have once again lost faith in the fact that story — this is science. The overnight transformation of former diehard Marxists into rabid democrats, the publication of the writings of Fomenko and Postnikov, Suvorov (Rezun) and Bushkov have once again forced our compatriots to consider history as politics thrown back into the past. [...] »
— Doctor of Philological Sciences, Candidate of Historical Sciences, Professor Vassoevich A. L.




People and history. One of those people who laid a solid foundation for Russian Egyptology was B.A. Turaev, who left behind many students and followers, and works whose value has hardly diminished over time. He was born in 1868 into a noble family living in the Minsk province. He studied, of course, at the gymnasium in the city of Vilno, but the funny thing is that he did not shine with academic success, although he managed to reap the laurels of the best student in the preparatory and second grades. But then his interest in studying dropped so much that he even began to get twos in exams. True, he always got an "A" in history, geography and the Law of God. What a pity that when I was at school, I did not know this, otherwise I would have shoved his biography in my mathematician's face and said that I had this man's life as a model. Ha, that would have made him cringe, by God! In general, how great it is that great people did not always get straight A's in school! I think it's inspiring, don't you?

The fact that Turaev began to take an interest in antiquity in high school is important. This again goes to show how important it is to incite a child to something from childhood. And it also happened that his grandmother once took him to the Berlin Museum, and there he saw ancient Egyptian monuments. And... the same thing happened to him as happened to J.-F. Champollion, who as a boy saw Foucault's collection of antiquities, which he brought back from Napoleon's Egyptian campaign. And of course, he also saw the Egyptian collection of the Museum of Antiquities at the Villeneuve Public Library.

And it is not surprising that after the gymnasium Turaev, having graduated from the Historical and Philological Faculty of St. Petersburg University, was left there to prepare for the title of professor. And not just left, but sent abroad at government expense to listen to lectures by Adolf Erman, Eberhard Schrader and Gaston Maspero – the leading historians of that time. He also studied collections in museums in Berlin, Paris, London and a number of Italian cities (1893-1895). In general, the evil tsarist regime in no way gave talented people of Russia the opportunity to advance and did not let them go anywhere.

Although Turaev himself was very dissatisfied with the attitude of the tsarist government towards history and wrote the following about this:

“It must be acknowledged that almost nothing has been done in our country to raise interest in the great cultures of antiquity. While the English, the French, and after them the Germans, Italians and Americans did not hesitate to spend any effort, energy and material resources for the archaeological study of the countries where the most ancient human civilizations were created, [...] while Western and transatlantic museums were filled with monuments of Egypt and Western Asia, providing material for scientists and educational resources for society, when both governments and private organizations understood the importance of studying the East and supported it in every possible way, and extensive scientific and popular literature went to meet both these undertakings and the interest of society that they aroused, in our country, lying closest to the East both territorially, historically and culturally, the study of the East, especially the ancient one, was thought about least of all - there were no departments, no original literature, and therefore for a long time there was no noticeable interest in this field of knowledge.”

Since 1896, B. A. Turaev began to teach a course in Egyptology at the Faculty of History and Philology of St. Petersburg University. And then the first department of the history of the ancient East in Russia was even created for him. Incidentally, it remained the only one, because there were simply no other scientists of such level in Russia at that time.

However, the basis of his knowledge was indeed very deep. His notes of the lectures he attended in Berlin have been preserved: "Assyro-Babylonian Antiquities" and "Explanations of Assyro-Babylonian Inscriptions" by Schrader, "History of Babylonia and Assyria" by Lehmann, "Introduction to Mexican Archaeology" by Zehler, "New Egyptian Grammar" by Erman, "Ancient Egyptian Archaeology" and "Coptic Phonetics and Dialects" by Steindorff. That is, they were read by specialists who had deeply penetrated these topics, who themselves dug and studied these antiquities, translated the texts they found, in a word, he studied with people who were exceptionally knowledgeable, "scholars with a capital letter".

Turaev’s main work, the monumental “History of the Ancient East,” was also connected with his work as a teacher and “grew” out of a course of lectures he gave on the history of the ancient East (he began giving them in 1896 as a private lecturer). This work was first published by the student publishing committee (that’s what it was like under the damned tsarism!) in 1911, and then it was reissued in an expanded form and with illustrations in 1913. The last edition of this book, published in 1916, was awarded the gold medal of the Russian Archaeological Society.

Very quickly, a circle of students formed around Turaev. Moreover, many of them - most likely on his advice and patronage - went to Berlin for internships. It is interesting that the first among them, the first was N. D. Flittner (1879-1957), who graduated from the Higher Women's Courses in Moscow, and then studied with Turaev in St. Petersburg in 1905-1909. After which she attended several summer semesters in Berlin with A. Erman, E. Meyer and G. Schaefer (1909, 1912-1914). And it turned out that she became the first woman in Russia to study the ancient East, became a professor and from 1919 until the end of her life worked in the Department of the Ancient East of the Hermitage. Then another Muscovite, Vladimir Mikhailovich Vikentyev (1882–1960), who had been the keeper of the Eastern Collection at the Historical Museum since 1915, went to Germany. In 1922, he was sent abroad, moved to Egypt, and died there as a professor at Cairo University.

Under Soviet rule, Turaev did not become a banned author, although he was subjected to harsh criticism, primarily for his religiosity, and he was a deeply religious person (he was a psalm-reader at the Peter and Paul Church!) and actively participated in the life of our Orthodox Church. They wrote about him that he was “a consistent idealist in his worldview and a deeply religious person by conviction - he was very far from historical materialism. Moreover, much seemed unacceptable to him in the revolution.” They wrote, but... they could not help but reckon with his authority.

He was the first in Russia to engage in systematic study and publication of ancient Egyptian monuments from domestic museum collections in museums of the Russian Empire (in Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Kazan and Odessa). In 1912, he became the custodian of the Egyptian antiquities collection at the Museum of Fine Arts (now the A.S. Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts) in Moscow. He assembled an excellent collection of Egyptian antiquities, which is now housed in the State Hermitage Museum.

Well, after the revolution, since 1918, he was an academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences in the Department of Historical Sciences and Philology (literature and history of Asian peoples), a professor in the Department of Liturgy at the Petrograd Theological Institute, a member of the board of the Church Society of United Orthodox Parishes of Petrograd and the Brotherhood of Saint Sophia, and since 1919 he headed the Department of Egyptology at Petrograd University. Turaev died of sarcoma and was buried in the Nikolskoye Cemetery of the Alexander Nevsky Lavra.

Turaev also wrote the book “Egyptian Literature” (1920) and the popular science essay “Ancient Egypt” (1922), which were published after his death. He left behind followers of his work, which is not always possible for both scientists and politicians, and, in particular, he became the mentor of a number of orientalists, including Vasily Vasilyevich Struve, the creator of the “five-member” formational approach adopted in Soviet Marxist historiography.

He was also an amazingly versatile researcher. In addition to Egyptology, he studied the history of Nubia and Aksum, medieval Ethiopia and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, as well as Semitology, Assyriology, Sumerology, Coptology, Hittology and Urartian studies. It is not without reason that Turaev, due to the breadth of his analysis and the depth of his encyclopedic knowledge, was often compared to James Henry Breasted, an American archaeologist and historian who also studied Egyptology and the influence of the civilizations of the Ancient Near East on the formation of Western and Orthodox civilization.

His works examined many important aspects of the history of the Ancient East (for example, he proposed the term "Fertile Crescent" that is generally accepted today). So, comparing them both, we can say that our Turaev, having fewer opportunities than the American Egyptologist, made a contribution to science that was no less, and even greater, than he did.
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  1. +5
    30 November 2024 05: 30
    Good morning Vyacheslav Olegovich, good morning Comrades!
    Before I go to bed,
    In general, how great it is that great people did not always get straight A's in school!

    To mothers and grandmothers - just don't tell this, especially to first-graders!!! laughing
    1. +2
      30 November 2024 06: 01
      And Einstein, Carl Linnaeus and Pierre Curie were also so-so students. But this is usually hidden from students at school. wink
      1. +4
        30 November 2024 07: 21
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        And Einstein, Carl Linnaeus and Pierre Curie were also so-so students. But this is usually hidden from students at school. wink

        Hi Mikhail, the list is much more extensive.
        The question is more about the assessment of the student's knowledge, or rather its system. Unfortunately, in all cases it has "vulnerabilities" and is mostly conditionally subjective.
        1. +7
          30 November 2024 09: 37
          At the Zurich Polytechnic, Einstein was a C student, and Roentgen was a B student. Nobody knows what made the A students famous.
    2. +3
      30 November 2024 08: 01
      Good morning, Vladislav! I won't tell the first graders, but the 6,7,9,10th, XNUMXth, XNUMXth, XNUMXth grades - I'll tell you how I studied...
      1. +1
        30 November 2024 08: 07
        Good morning, thank you for continuing the series!
        My father, Vyacheslav Olegovich, used to say that it’s better to have a red face and a blue diploma, and not the other way around! crying
        1. +3
          30 November 2024 10: 50
          Kote pane Kokhanka (Vladislav), respected, your dad, it seems, received a specialty in a civilian university. In the universities of the USSR Ministry of Defense, a red diploma is an opportunity to choose a place of service, and this is a huge plus, especially if your dad does not wear "striped pants" and embroidered shoulder straps or, at least, a papakha...
          1. +1
            30 November 2024 11: 17
            Quote: Tests
            In the universities of the USSR Ministry of Defense, a red diploma is an opportunity to choose a place of service, and this is a huge plus,

            Everywhere has its own specifics, yes...
          2. +4
            30 November 2024 12: 50
            Quote: Tests
            In the universities of the USSR Ministry of Defense, a red diploma is an opportunity to choose a place of service, and this is a huge plus.

            Wasn't it the same in civilian universities?

            In accordance with the average score, a queue was formed. And if the first one could choose ANY place from the list of directions for work (even in scientific, design institutes, even in construction), then the last one - only in the middle of nowhere, without options.
            1. +5
              30 November 2024 13: 05
              In civilian universities of the USSR there was still a percentage of those entering and studying by referral. You came to the university after medical school, which you graduated with honors, to the district that gave you a referral, and a young doctor will go after an internship. In Voenmekh, LKI and LETI, in the perestroika USSR, there was the same system. Although the student never got out of the Krylov Institute's "ice pool" and the Krylovites were ready to take him on, he received an additional stipend for excellent studies all the years of study - home, to the enterprise that gave you a referral and paid an additional stipend. If you want to return to Leningrad, before 3 years of work after the institute - return to the enterprise in one payment all the money that the enterprise paid you in the form of an additional stipend for the years of your study in Leningrad and you can pay off ...
              1. +3
                30 November 2024 13: 38
                Quote: Tests
                In civilian universities of the USSR there was still a percentage of those entering and studying according to their specialization.

                Probably so, but I haven't met any.

                I remember that the first on the list were hunted by prestigious employers themselves - all sorts of mailboxes - they came and invited directly
                1. +4
                  30 November 2024 14: 46
                  In Voenmekh, LKI and LETI from the closed city, mailboxes were the ones that gave referrals with an additional stipend, even if you got 2 "Cs" in a semester, and a significantly increased one for excellent students, with mandatory internships after the 2nd and 3rd years, and pre-graduation at the enterprise that sent you.
                  Many children who grew up in logging enterprises, state farms and collective farms went to forestry, agricultural and pedagogical institutes.
                2. +2
                  30 November 2024 15: 08
                  maybe so, but I haven't met any

                  We met you, Andrey. I am one of those. In 82, after my military service, I was "directed" by SAPO to VPVPU, after which I returned to my border detachment as an officer. I had no other options for choosing where to continue my service. Evgeny is right.
            2. +2
              30 November 2024 14: 54
              Quote: Olgovich
              A queue was formed according to the average score
              In civilian universities, a red diploma meant complete freedom of assignment. Go and work wherever you want. No obligation. My wife graduated with a red diploma and chose a job where she liked.
              1. +2
                30 November 2024 16: 25
                Dutchman Michel (Michel), respected, I have many, many times in the comments drawn the attention of all comrades on the site to the fact that when discussing the USSR, one must take into account: what five-year plan (or seven-year plan) was in progress, where the comrade worked (studied) at that time, at what enterprise, and what his position was. There are too many nuances.
                My wife graduated from the institute with honors. In their class, in their department, there was only one graduate with honors, she also had wealth: a newborn son and a husband who studied nearby - just a couple of hours away by train. She did not choose her place of work. She went to the GSVG just to follow her husband, he graduated from the Cherepovets Higher Military Engineering School of Radio Electronics. Several graduates from the department did not receive assignments: they went to their husbands' places of service in Kola and Leningrad.
                1. +4
                  30 November 2024 18: 12
                  Quote: Tests
                  Several female graduates from the faculty did not receive assignments: they went to their husbands’ places of service in Kola and Leningrad
                  Well, if a woman is already married, then she goes with her husband, regardless of the color of her diploma.
                2. +1
                  30 November 2024 18: 49
                  we must take into account: what kind of five-year plan was in effect (or what kind of seven-year plan was in effect),
                  Evgeny, the seven-year plan was the only one (1959-1965) because the five-year plan approved by Khrushchev Kukuruzny was impossible to fulfill in 5 years. After his expulsion, they returned to five-year plans. And now - to three-year plans, since all plans are calculated for exactly this period. But the new meme (three-year plan) is not being launched out loud yet.
                  1. +1
                    30 November 2024 19: 44
                    The new meme (three years old) hasn't been launched yet.

                    As far as I remember, Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev advocated for the “three-year plan” back in 2016.
                    And now the fashionable trend is to gradually switch to a four-day work week. There is an understanding that, for example, the entire staff of a call center can be replaced by one AI - it is already capable of simultaneously listening and communicating in any language with a large number of people. The same is true in many other cases.
                    Well, maybe...
                    1. +3
                      30 November 2024 20: 20
                      Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev advocated for the “three-year plan” back in 2016.
                      Good evening, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. When I hear the current speeches of the iPhone, I get the impression that this is a very unsuccessful reincarnation of Zhirinovsky. The three-year-old reached our office only 3 years ago, perhaps after its (the office's) status changed - it ceased to be a federal state unitary enterprise. The call center can, of course, be replaced by AI, but for more complex functions this will not work. By the way, in connection with the recent Abkhazian events, enlighten me, are they really stupid freeloaders (they demand - give them free electricity, pensions and other social services), but they cannot (or do not want to) bring the same hotels to a modern state? You lived in Abkhazia.
                      1. +3
                        30 November 2024 20: 31
                        . they really are stupid freeloaders

                        They are stupid freeloaders.
                        Many of them are completely devoid of European ethics and morals. If you didn't steal something, you "caught it by accident", and that's the case with everything. Everything is in ruins there, all the industry, everything has been stolen, only boxes remain from factories and plants, mountains of garbage inside. They won't let Russians in, they will stand to the death and kill on the sly. Because they are not competitive in terms of civilization, they have an inferiority complex, hatred.
                      2. +3
                        30 November 2024 20: 37
                        I see. Complex of a stupid small (but proud) nation. European ethics and morality are not ideal, there are also Asian ethics and morality, including Far Eastern (Japanese), but these are not capable of cleaning even in the Sukhumi monkey nursery.
                      3. +1
                        30 November 2024 21: 14
                        Clear

                        Garm. According to Pelevin, expressed in the "Sacred Book of the Werewolf", where Garm (Scandinavian mythology) appears, development stops, the ability for it is lost. But Garm is invisible, and no one understands what is happening. Moreover, no one thinks about it, the stoppage of development with the transition to complete subsequent degradation seems natural. But this was in fact the intervention of deadening forces.
                      4. +1
                        30 November 2024 22: 30
                        But this was in fact the intervention of deadening forces.
                        The interference of these forces is treated "not by our method" (c), as Fedya said in the short story "Partner" from Gaidai's film. But for some reason it is not applied here, we think that with the new elections something will change. Naive.
                  2. +1
                    30 November 2024 20: 27
                    Aviator_(Sergey), respected sir, although I am not as ancient as a piece of papont's skin, I remember the seven-year school and I remember that it was the only one. That is why I wrote about it in the singular... "The Strategy for the Development of the Shipbuilding Industry until 2035." was approved in 2019, it is failing. Just like the previous "Strategy for the Development of Maritime Activities of the Russian Federation until 2030", which was approved in 2010, was a resounding failure. "The Plan for the Development of the Northern Sea Route until 2035" was approved in 2022. The only achievement is that ships of the PRC, not the Russian Federation, carry paper, cardboard, and pellets from Arkhangelsk to themselves and to the DPRK via the NSR. Recently, either the 7th or 23rd wheel in the cart - the representative of the Arkhangelsk region governor for the development of the Arctic Dmitry Yurkov, together with the general director of the NewNewShipping Line company Ke Jin and the representative of JSC Solikamskbumprom Leonid Morozov signed a trilateral agreement that in 2025-26, Chinese ships will transport the products of Solikamskbumprom through the port of Arkhangelsk. You couldn't find a bilateral agreement between JSC Solikamskbumprom and the sea carrier on the Internet? ... In the Russian Federation, there is still not a single project and not a single bulk carrier or tanker is being built that can go year-round in the Arctic behind the nuclear icebreakers that the Baltic Shipyard is building. What kind of three-year plans are there if defective managers, for example, USC, are never responsible for anything, they only receive orders!
                    1. +2
                      30 November 2024 20: 33
                      Evgeniy, the fact that despite the "enormous plans" (c), they are collapsing with the shifting of deadlines, is obvious. In civil aviation, import substitution, to put it mildly, is not being implemented. PD-8 is still being completed. Well, real deadlines should have been given, vocational schools should have been opened again (in our city, vocational school-49 was closed, now there is a Technopark there). Where to find workers - Ravshans and Dzhamshuds will not help. It's sad.
                      1. +1
                        30 November 2024 21: 10
                        Aviator_(Sergey) the same problems in shipbuilding and ship repair! "Baltic Shipyard" and the icebreakers of project 22220 were saved by workers and engineering and technical workers from Severodvinsk with JSC SPO "Arktika". There are no vocational schools or technical schools in St. Petersburg, since Soviet times, that would train ship electricians and equipment adjusters who could work on submarines and nuclear icebreakers. In Severodvinsk, they survived. For this, "Arktika" for ship electrical installation, like CS "Zvezdochka" once did for ship repair, has received branches all over the country. But VTB management in USC is the most VTB-like management. From 77 rubles are offered to an electrician at the "Baltic Shipyard" on a clean nuclear icebreaker. From 000 rubles - in Severodvinsk, where it is not a fact that at SEVMASH you will be pulling a cable along a submarine on a clean order, there may be a "Zvezdochka" with induced radiation on a repair order, with the northerners. Or in "Nerpa" in the Murmansk region from 50 rubles, in a village of 000 people. We got it like in the 65s. People spend a month of vacation resting with their families, a month - they go to St. Petersburg or to "Nerpa" to earn money. Those who are over 000 years old are fired, they say they are old, they have already earned their pension. But the young ones - no. If there is no need to take out an "Arctic mortgage", for example, the apartment was inherited from deceased parents, go to order or sit in the warmth at the "Ozon" pick-up point for the same money... At the same time, "Krasnaya Kuznitsa" in Arkhangelsk for years had no orders for the manufacture of ships or delivered 10 (one!) small roadstead tug per year. And the thrust bearings of the propeller shafts of the nuclear icebreakers of the project 000, despite numerous requests from the director of SEVMASH Mr. Budnichenko, USC ordered in Finland before "Chukotka". Import substitution in shipbuilding...
          3. +1
            30 November 2024 14: 56
            Quote: Tests
            In the universities of the USSR Ministry of Defense, a red diploma is an opportunity to choose a place of service
            Of those proposed. And completely different people go to places not proposed, for example GSVG. C students wink
        2. +2
          30 November 2024 11: 16
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          blue diploma

          All my diplomas are blue. I know a person with a red one, but he... knows nothing. His education passed through him like... a rectum. No, he got a specialty, and works in it. But beyond that, even within the framework of a university course - a complete zero. Our Tatra is right, oh right - education does not teach intelligence!
    3. +3
      30 November 2024 10: 23
      Mr. Kokhanka (Vladislav), it seems that you haven't had first-graders in your family for a long time. In the Russian Federation, for many years, in most schools, first-graders have not had grades. Children should adapt to school gradually, otherwise the stress in children will be very strong and there will be no work for school psychologists, but there will be work for child psychiatrists, and very few of them are trained...
  2. +5
    30 November 2024 09: 07
    "The last edition of this book, published in 1916" is the last pre-revolutionary edition. In 1924, Brockhaus published the first volume with additions by the author under the title "The Classical East", but due to the liquidation of the publishing house, the second volume was not published. By the way, the second volume was supposed to be with additions by N.D. Flitner mentioned in the article. However, in 1935-1936, this work was published in two volumes in the USSR. I have this edition. It is of an enlarged format and very decently illustrated. I remember reading individual chapters in my childhood/adolescence.
    1. +3
      30 November 2024 11: 19
      Quote: Sergey Valov
      It is of a high format and very well illustrated.

      Envious...
  3. +3
    30 November 2024 09: 41
    Turaev was born into a noble family, and that says it all. And then Igor Khodakov's previously published article "Ivan the Terrible - a contract with the Lord" came to light. What is the connection with Turaev, you say? Direct. If in Europe the king is merely God's anointing, then in Russia, starting with Ivan the Terrible, the tsar is the direct incarnation of God, therefore, the rest of the population are his slaves in the literal sense. At the same time, the tsar was endowed with the features of not the kind Jesus - a father, caring about the happiness of all the humiliated and insulted, a healer and comforter - no! The tsar is a formidable warrior, for "I did not bring you peace, but a sword!"
    This was a terrible mental blow to the population, the "Berendey kingdom" perished completely. It must be assumed that there were blows of this kind before, but weak ones - the reign of Ivan the Terrible completed the matter. And here it is - favorable ground for dividing the Russian people into two parts, which was later used by Tsar Peter the Great.
    The first part was a huge uneducated mass of peasants, destined to earn money for the second part - the nobility, whose way of life completely copied the life of the noble gentlemen of Western Europe. These were people who from childhood absorbed their complete belonging to Europe as an obligatory part of education and upbringing and then reproduced the way of life of European aristocrats, lived by their interests, including cultural ones.
    The peasant masses found themselves not only outside the cultural trends of the West, but also outside the growth of its capitalist component and were needed by the Russian nobility only as an annoying but necessary source of income.
    That's why, having learned that Turaev was born into a noble family, I thought: "What other family could he have been born into, judging by his deeds? In the nineteenth century!"

    Good morning everyone!
    1. +4
      30 November 2024 11: 18
      Everything is far from being so gloomy. For example, I. V. Tsvetaev was born into a family of a village priest, S. M. Soloviev was born into a family of an archpriest, a religious teacher at the Moscow Commercial School, I. E. Repin was born into a family of a private Cossack. The Morozov merchant dynasty came from serf peasants, its last representatives thundered throughout Russia, P. M. Tretyakov came from a family of merchants. We can go on for a long time.
      1. +2
        30 November 2024 12: 52
        Sergey Valov (Sergey Valov), respected sir, if we also take into account that the Morozovs, Tretyakovs, Guchkovs, Ryabushinskys, Kuznetsovs were from the Old Believers of the priestly persuasion, and the dean of the law faculty of Moscow State University, Alekseev, was their brother in faith, the picture of the merchants and factory owners-philanthropists will be very interesting.
    2. +2
      30 November 2024 15: 23
      Turaev was born into a noble family, and that says it all.

      If you look at it from one side - then yes. State Councilor. Professor of the St. Petersburg University. Married to Princess Elena Filimonovna Tsereteli, sister of Georgy Filimonovich Tsereteli... But on the other hand, he is undoubtedly a talented and extremely hardworking person.
  4. +3
    30 November 2024 11: 21
    Quote: depressant
    The first part was a huge uneducated mass of peasants, destined to earn money for the second part - the nobility, whose way of life completely copied the life of the noble gentlemen of Western Europe. These were people who from childhood absorbed their complete belonging to Europe as an obligatory part of education and upbringing and then reproduced the way of life of European aristocrats, lived by their interests, including cultural ones.
    The peasant masses found themselves not only outside the cultural trends of the West, but also outside the growth of its capitalist component and were needed by the Russian nobility only as an annoying but necessary source of income.

    Just go ahead and insert it into an article about the specifics of Russia's socio-cultural development...
    1. +2
      30 November 2024 13: 04
      in the article about the specifics

      I feel somehow angry today, Vyacheslav Olegovich... It's as if devils have grabbed my soul, are pulling it in different directions, are about to tear it apart - I'm defending myself as best I can, but it's not going well.
      It was normal for Turaev to live within the confines of one, very clear reality. Why not wander around Egypt, and not slip on the slopes of the pyramids. But here... Maybe tomorrow it will become easier, the devil will let go wassat )))
      1. +2
        30 November 2024 16: 40
        Quote: depressant
        I defend myself as best I can

        A pill of phenibut and everything is OK!
        1. +2
          30 November 2024 16: 44
          A pill of phenibut and everything is OK!

          You'll leave exorcists without work!
          And now they and all sorts of occultists are in high season, they might get offended, be careful, Vyacheslav Olegovich! wassat )))
          1. +3
            30 November 2024 16: 45
            Quote: depressant
            they will still be offended,

            I don't believe in all this stuff...
            1. 0
              30 November 2024 16: 54
              I don't believe it

              So few people believe!
              But at all times, all nations resorted to their art, and most unbelievers still get lost if a black cat crosses their path. Turaev, without realizing it, studied this phenomenon. And, apparently, he inadvertently offended one of the ancient gods. But there was no phenibut at hand to repel the attack. The Lord, whom he loved so much, apparently did not forgive the betrayal and did not protect.
    2. +2
      30 November 2024 18: 33
      kalibr (Vyacheslav), respected, I just have to clarify that in this case we will be talking about the central (Moscow), Volga and Central Black Earth provinces. About a month ago, in the comments to the article "The Role of the Noble Estate in Russian Culture of the Second Half of the 19th Century", I drew the attention of my comrades on the site to the liberation of the peasants in Estonia, Courland and Livonia, to the specifics of serfdom in the Vologda province, slightly touched on the question of the Old Believers in the Arkhangelsk province and did not mention the Olonetsk, St. Petersburg, Vyborg provinces and the Urals. There, the shoots of capitalism were breaking through and gaining strength. In Arkhangelsk, dachas appeared in the first half of the 2th century. And it was not surprising when those who were not nobles at all could communicate with foreign sailors and shipwrights in 3-XNUMX languages, had their own house, garden plot, hired spinners for sea trades in the summer. And their relatives from the village went to seasonal trades in St. Petersburg from October to April.
  5. +3
    30 November 2024 12: 59
    What a pity that when I was in school I didn't know this, otherwise I would have shoved his biography in my mathematician's face and said that I take this man's life as a model. Ha, that would have been great. it made him cringe, by God!

    They were never embarrassed by such examples and the answer was automatic:
    "When you become Turaev (Einstein, etc.), then don't study mathematics! But for now, march after your parents, "Spinoza!!"
    Yes
    1. +3
      30 November 2024 16: 41
      Quote: Olgovich
      "When you become Turaev (Einstein, etc.), then don't study mathematics! But for now, march after your parents, "Spinoza!!"

      How right you have noticed. That is how it would have been!
  6. +3
    30 November 2024 14: 50
    He was born in 1868 to a noble family living in the Minsk province. He studied, of course, at the gymnasium in the city of Vilno

    A funny statement. Why - is it clear? A completely incomprehensible phrase, Caliber. Did all the noble children born at that time in Novogradok near Grodno, in your opinion, necessarily have to study in the gymnasium of the city of Vilno? But if you had written that the Turaev family lived in Vilno, where B.A. Turaev's father served as a titular councilor - everything would have fallen into place.
    1. +2
      30 November 2024 15: 52
      In addition to Egyptology, B.A. Turaev studied the history of Nubia and Axum, medieval Ethiopia and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, as well as Semitology, Assyriology, Sumerology, Coptology, Hittology and Urartian studies. He is the author of about 400 scientific works and articles. He bequeathed his collection of Egyptian antiquities to the Hermitage.
      Turaev, due to the breadth of his analysis and the depth of his encyclopedic knowledge, was often compared to his contemporary Breasted. Thanks to the catalogues of B. A. Turaev, who was the keeper of the collection of Egyptian antiquities at the Museum of Fine Arts in the 20s, Russia preserved the world-famous collection of V. S. Golenishchev, which today forms the basis of the Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts in Moscow.
      1. +2
        30 November 2024 15: 52
        He died in 1920 - officially from sarcoma. Unofficially from dysentery complicated by constant malnutrition.
        link: Romanovsky S. I. Russian Academy of Sciences during the Civil War // Novy Chasovoy - Russian Military-Historical Journal. St. Petersburg, 1991. No. 5. P. 113-121

        Turaev's grave is located in the Nikolskoye Cemetery of the Alexander Nevsky Lavra in St. Petersburg.
        1. +2
          30 November 2024 16: 43
          Quote: Richard
          He died in 1920 - officially from sarcoma. Unofficially from dysentery complicated by constant malnutrition.
          reference: Romanovsky S. I. Russian Academy of Sciences during the Civil War // Novy Chasovoy - Russian military-historical journal. St. Petersburg, 1991. No. 5. P. 113-121

          This is all taken from Wikipedia...
    2. +1
      30 November 2024 15: 57
      . Funny statement.

      What a surprisingly fresh and focused perception you have, Dima)))
      Listening to radio recordings or videos of famous political scientists and talkers like Professor Valery Dmitrievich Solovey and others like him, I notice that talkers have started to lose their train of thought, they use cases incorrectly, sin against logic in places, correct themselves and even forget what they wanted to say. But just 10 days ago, the speech of the characters flowed like a majestic river, no rapids, whirlpools or waterfalls. And then suddenly this... For example, I have completely lost the gift of oral speech and therefore silently, without any comments, I study the affected areas depending on the distance to the epicenter and the power of the charge. It turns out that my family will not survive, and therefore, instead of coherent speech, I emit continuous mooing, stuttering, and occasionally growling.
      And you are picking on Vyacheslav Olegovich wassat )))
      1. +2
        30 November 2024 16: 06
        You are picking on Vyacheslav Olegovich
        .
        If you had read the article and comments carefully, and not studied in parallel with the discussion of this article
        damage zones depending on the distance to the epicenter and the power of the charge (s)

        Then you would see that I am not picking on Caliber at all. The phrase quoted, yes, surprised me. But overall the article made a very favorable impression. Thanks to the author!
    3. +3
      30 November 2024 16: 42
      Quote: Richard
      But if you had written

      Well, I didn't write, I didn't think. It's hard to think constantly with the same intensity and efficiency.
  7. +1
    30 November 2024 17: 23
    Well, okay, I joked through the bitterness, and that's enough!
    I wondered who these people were who actually built the pyramids, so that the hero of the story would slip on them and almost die?
    You won't believe it, they were hired workers, professional builders! Not slaves at all. So they were paid somehow, not with gold and silver. Yes, they were paid - with beer!
    Apparently, what the workers didn't drink, they brought to exchange. So, there were some shops that served as exchange offices. As for the government, it was
    "Uten is a monetary unit of account of Ancient Egypt during the New Kingdom period. Mentioned in inscriptions related to the reign of Pharaoh Thutmose III (approximately 15th century BC), which say that the Pharaoh received tribute in gold and silver, calculated in utens."(c)
    1. +1
      30 November 2024 17: 45
      Quote: depressant
      Yes, we paid with beer!
      Apparently, what they didn't drink, the workers brought for exchange. This means that there were some shops that served as exchange points.

      I will write in detail about how we worked, what we ate and drank... Soon.
      1. +1
        30 November 2024 18: 10
        . I will write in detail.

        Excellent, Vyacheslav Olegovich! I'll wait. In the meantime, I'd like to express the impression that short videos about the construction of the pyramids made on me (I watched them when YouTube existed)
        Apparently, the videos were created by AI, there are many of them. In addition to workers, slow giants participate in the construction, and gods visit the construction site. Probably, the giants are an image of the people's power. And all this is accompanied by strange, drawn-out sounds, long, mournful, scary, some of which resemble the roar of an angry monster, others - like its dying. I suppose these are some kind of pipes. The impression is deafening. It was as if I was transported from my reality to that era, not the video - the sounds recreated Ancient Egypt for me.
        1. +3
          30 November 2024 18: 24
          Externally, the pyramids seem to be identical, but they have different designs, depending on the time of construction, and therefore they were built differently. But I will not take away bread from the respected author. Let's wait.
          1. +3
            30 November 2024 19: 49
            Quote: Sergey Valov
            But I won't take away the bread

            Thank you! I became interested in Egypt back in 1972, in my first year at the institute. I made a copy of the Egyptian bronze dagger from the film "Pharaoh". I sharpened a 3 mm bronze plate with a file. True, it made the handle red, not blue, as it should have been. It's a pity that I gave it to a friend later... Now his photo would come in handy... Then... then I read everything about Egypt. Of the "fiction" I liked four books: "If the Sphinx Spoke" by Gaius Petronius Amatuni, "On the Edge of the Oikumene" by Ivan Efremov, and two books by Elizabeth Hering "The Pharaoh's Handmaiden" and "The Pharaoh's Sculptor". Haggard's novel "Cleopatra" contains elements of mysticism, I don't like it...
            1. 0
              30 November 2024 20: 48
              It is very pleasant to communicate with a person who is passionate, and especially with someone who has been passionate for a long time and seriously! good But alas, Egypt has never been in first place for me, I read about this topic exclusively for self-education.
              1. 0
                30 November 2024 20: 54
                Quote: Sergey Valov
                for self-education.

                And probably pleasure. If something is interesting, then it is pleasant to read...
                1. +1
                  30 November 2024 21: 38
                  Of course. I only read what is interesting, not for show. It's sad when an interesting topic is either written poorly or published poorly, now it's almost the norm. Editing/proofreading work has fallen terribly.
  8. +2
    30 November 2024 19: 53
    [quote=Tests]Tests
    (Eugene)
    I agree with you! But still, these are details. My material on this topic will be in a slightly different plane. However, you will see.
  9. 0
    1 December 2024 21: 37
    Quote: Aviator_
    At the Zurich Polytechnic, Einstein was a C student, and Roentgen was a B student. Nobody knows what made the A students famous.


    For example, they went to graduate school/doctorate and wrote classic textbooks on calculating the bearing capacity of various types of soil.