Underrated Russian Commander Boris Sheremetev

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Underrated Russian Commander Boris Sheremetev
B. P. Sheremetev in the portrait of T. Shevchenko


Boris Petrovich Sheremetev can certainly be called one of the most underrated Russian military leaders. On the one hand, his name is constantly mentioned in stories about the Northern War. But on the other hand, he invariably ends up in the shadow of Peter I, who is traditionally credited with all of Sheremetev's merits and almost all of his victories. Thus, the only successes during the First Azov Campaign are associated with the actions of Sheremetev's corps. But the most striking example is the famous Battle of Poltava, in which Peter I is unanimously called the winner. However, in fact, Peter commanded one of the second-line divisions at the time, and Sheremetev was the commander-in-chief.



Boris Petrovich was a very extraordinary person and stood out among others for his sense of self-worth and freethinking. In this he took an example from his father, Pyotr Vasilyevich Sheremetev Bolshoi, who, even under Alexei Mikhailovich, began to wear foreign (Polish) clothes and shave his beard.

Boris Petrovich Sheremetev did not strive to please Peter I and even directly refused to fulfill the demands of those that were not related to military and state affairs. He avoided participating in the confrontation between Peter I and his sister Sophia, and later categorically refused to participate in the trial of Tsarevich Alexei. He was the only one of Peter I's courtiers who never drained the "cup of the great eagle", and also ignored invitations to meetings of the "Most Joking, Most Drunken, and Most Extravagant Council".

But Boris Sheremetev's business qualities were so high that the tsar preferred to accept him as he was and not to aggravate the relationship. But many of Peter's closest associates could not stand the hero of the article, and the English ambassador Charles Whitworth reported to London that Menshikov was "Field Marshal Sheremetev's fierce enemy." But, according to the same Whitworth, "the soldiers love him extremely and the people almost adore him." He also gives him the following description:

“Sheremetev is the most polite person in the country and the most cultured.”

And Peter I called Sheremetev “his” Bayard and Turenne.


Aravitsky V. Portrait of Boris Petrovich Sheremetev in Russian dress

We will talk about Boris Petrovich Sheremetev in this article.

Origin and youth of the great commander


The boyar family of the Sheremetevs descended from the notorious Andrei Kobyla, who allegedly came to Moscow "from the Prussian land". In the "Armorial" of 1797, written on the basis of the "Velvet Book" (compiled in the XNUMXth century), he is called a descendant of the fourth son of the Prussian king Veydevut. A certain prince Glanda Kambila allegedly "went with his son and many subjects to Russia to the Grand Duke Alexander Nevsky and received the name John in Holy Baptism. His son, Andrei Ivanovich, nicknamed Kobyla, served the Moscow prince Simeon Ivanovich the Proud."

Not only the Sheremetevs, but also the Romanovs, Kolychevs, Yakovlevs, Neplyuevs, and Sukhovo-Kobylins considered themselves descendants of Andrei Kobyla. For some reason, foreign origins were considered very honorable among Russian boyars, but August Schlozer, who worked in Russia in the 18th century, did not believe in this legend. Many modern researchers believe that Andrei Kobyla arrived in Moscow not from Prussia, but from Novgorod, where his family probably lived on the "Prussian end." Others, such as A. Kuzmin, believed that Andrei Kobyla was of Kostroma origin.

The father of the hero of the article was Pyotr Vasilyevich Sheremetev the Great, a distinguished military leader who was the governor of Veliky Novgorod and Tobolsk at different times, on May 15, 1682, he negotiated with the rebellious Streltsy in the Kremlin, and then "was in charge" of Moscow for some time. At the time of the birth of his eldest son Boris (1652), he held the position of Kyiv governor. One of his subordinates at that time was a Scotsman in the Russian service, General P. Gordon, whom he always asked to "keep an eye" on his children during his absence. The hero of the article studied at the Kiev-Mohyla Academy. In 1665, at the age of 13, Boris received the court position of chamber steward. In 1669, he married Evdokia Alekseevna Chirikova, who bore him three children. She died in 1703, and for 10 years Boris Petrovich remained a widower.

The beginning of military service


Only under Tsar Feodor Alekseevich did B. P. Sheremetev begin to be called up for military service – first in his father’s army. At the age of 29 (in 1681) he was already a voivode and Tambov governor, fought against the Crimean Tatars, and became a boyar in 1682. In 1686 he participated in negotiations on the conclusion of the “Eternal Peace” with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and then headed the delegation sent to Warsaw to ratify this treaty. In 1688 he took part in a poorly prepared and unsuccessful campaign against Crimea, in which the army of Prince V. V. Golitsyn (the favorite of the ruler Sophia) reached Perekop, but turned back.

In 1692, we see Sheremetev as a voivode in Belgorod and Sevsk. Finally, in 1695, during the First Azov Campaign of Peter I, he successfully commands a separate detachment that captured three Turkish fortresses - Kyzy-Kermen, Eski-Tavan and Aslan-Kermen. These, by the way, were the only victories of that military campaign.

Euro-trip


In 1697-1699, Sheremetev went on a diplomatic mission to a number of European countries, visiting Poland, Austria, Italy, Malta, where (being Orthodox!) he became a knight of the Catholic Order of St. John of Jerusalem.


Reception of the Sheremetev embassy in Malta, 1698

In Vienna he met with Emperor Leopold I and his son Joseph, in Rome – with Pope Innocent XII, in Florence – with Cosimo III de Medici. But in Poland there was unrest, and he had to move through some regions disguised as a captain. However, in Krakow he was received by Augustus II – the future ally of Peter I in the Northern War. Returning to Russia, Sheremetev appeared before Peter I in a German waistcoat, which greatly pleased the Tsar and shocked many of his confidants.

The beginning of the Northern War


In 1845, a folk song with the following lines was recorded in the Arkhangelsk province:
"The Tsar's great boyar rises
Prince Boris Petrovich Sheremetev,
The campaign keeps to the Swedish land,
"He sends out Cossacks ahead."

However, the beginning of that war was not at all rosy.

On August 30, 1700 (according to the Gregorian calendar), a celebration was held in Moscow to mark the conclusion of peace with Turkey and the acquisition of Azov, at which "an excellent fireworks display" was set off. The next day, Peter I declared war on Sweden. Meanwhile, in the Russian army in 1700, only 4 regiments out of 33 were organized according to European models: the Semenovsky and Preobrazhensky Guards, Lefortovo and Butyrsky (much fewer than in Golitsyn's army that went to Crimea). According to the testimony of the Saxon General Langen, the soldiers of the four above-mentioned regiments were not inferior to the Germans in terms of weapons and training.

But the secretary of the Austrian embassy, ​​Korb, spoke of the other regiments as "a rabble of the most worthless soldiers, recruited from the poorest rabble." F. A. Golovin (admiral since 1699, field marshal general since 1700) agreed with him, claiming that they "did not know how to pick up a musket." The movement to Narva was poorly organized, there were not enough horses and carts, the supply trains with food and ammunition lagged behind, and the soldiers were starving. It is not surprising that in the very first battle with the Swedes, the Russian army was utterly routed by the army of Charles XII.


A. Kotzebue. Battle of Narva


Charles XII at Narva. Engraving by Bernard Picart

But before the battle at Narva, Sheremetev, at the head of a five-thousand-strong detachment of noble cavalry, was sent to Reval and Pernov (Pärnu), where he encountered Swedish reconnaissance detachments and defeated them, but then, fearing encirclement, retreated to Narva. Peter I accused him of cowardice and ordered him to move forward again. As a result, Sheremetev's detachment was attacked by the main forces of the Swedes, but, although with great losses, he still led his cavalrymen to Narva.

By this time Peter had apparently begun to doubt the possibility of victory and therefore, leaving the army, went to Novgorod. And the Swedes, having attacked the Russian positions on the move, quickly broke through the center of the Russian positions - and a shameful panic began, during which soldiers killed foreign officers, and the bridge across the river collapsed, unable to bear the weight of hundreds of fleeing people.

However, on the right flank, the Preobrazhensky, Semenovsky and Lefortovsky regiments continued to fight, joined by soldiers from Golovin's division. And on the left, Adam Weide's division stood in a square. Under Charles XII, a horse was killed, Major General Johan Ribbing was killed, and Generals Rehnskiöld and Maidel were wounded. However, the Russian units on the flanks acted in isolation, and their commanders did not know that they were not fighting alone.

As a result, Generals Ya. Dolgorukov, I. Buturlin and A. Golovin stopped the battle, handing over 184 artillery pieces for the right to retreat unhindered. Only after this did Adam Weide stop resisting. Incidentally, the Swedes violated the agreement: they only let soldiers of the guards regiments pass freely, the rest were disarmed and robbed, and generals and officers of higher ranks were not released (10 generals and about 70 officers were captured). The Russian army lost about 6 thousand soldiers (and together with the sick and wounded, up to 12 thousand were out of action), the Swedish - 3 thousand people.

The remnants of the army were saved by B. Sheremetev, who managed to gather the fleeing soldiers and lead them to Novgorod. Peter I greeted him with the words:

“The Swedes will beat us more than once, but in the end they will teach us how to win.”

Just two weeks after the Battle of Narva, Sheremetev attacked (albeit not very successfully) one of General Schlippenbach’s detachments.

First victories over the Swedes


In June 1701, Sheremetev was ordered to organize the protection of Pskov and Veliky Novgorod and the surveillance of Swedish troops in Livonia and Livonia. In July, Bakhmetev, at the head of the Saratov, Samara and Ufa riflemen, Yaik Cossacks and Astrakhan Tatars (1973 people in total), defeated several small Swedish detachments.

In September, larger detachments of Mikhail Sheremetev (the son of the hero of the article, a participant in the Crimean campaigns of 1687 and 1689), Karsakov and Aigustov successfully operated against the Swedes. It was Mikhail Sheremetev's detachment (numbering 11 people) that won the first victory in a serious battle against the Swedes at Ryapina Manor; 042 people were taken prisoner, including two officers - a major and a lieutenant. The trophies included 80 cannons, 2 fusils, 104 pairs of pistols, 37 swords, 65 carbines, and 14 dragoon banners. The actions of Karsakov and Aigustov were also successful; in addition, the Swedes were bothered by Tatars and Yaik Cossacks.

Meanwhile, on July 8 (19), 1701, Charles XII, having crossed the Western Dvina, defeated the Saxon troops of A. Steinau, after which the Swedes completely took control of Courland.

The Russian army achieved its first major victory on December 29, 1701 (January 9, 1702) near the village of Erestfer. Schlippenbach's troops initially pushed back Boris Sheremetev's cavalry, but then infantry units arrived and the Swedes were forced to retreat, abandoning their baggage train and leaving the Russians with 6 artillery pieces and 16 banners. Among others, Colonel Lieven and Major Nolken were captured. Upon learning of this victory, Peter I said:

"We can finally beat the Swedes!"


M. Grekov. "Attack of the Swedes by Yaroslavl dragoons near the village of Erestfer on December 29, 1701." Painting, 1914.

It was after this battle that B. Sheremetev received the rank of Field Marshal General, as well as the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called.

The officers were awarded gold coins: colonels received 10, lieutenant colonels and majors – 8, captains – 3, lieutenants – 2, ensigns – 1. Privates and non-commissioned officers were given a ruble and a ladle of wine.

Military campaign of the Russian army in 1702-1703.


On April 19 (May 1), 1702, Charles XII won another victory over the Saxons at Pultusk. However, the Swedes suffered defeats in the Baltics. In July of the same year, they were defeated at Gumolov Manor, 308 soldiers and officers (including 2 majors) were captured, and 21 Swedish banners were seized. After this, the lands of the Swedish commander-in-chief, Wolmar Anton von Schlipenbach, were devastated. In Livonia, Sheremetev's army captured 8 cities.

On August 27, 1702, 30 Russian karbas successfully attacked 8 large Swedish sea ships on Lake Ladoga: two of them were burned, one was sunk, and two more were captured.

Also in August, the Swedish garrison of a small fortress near the Menza estate capitulated to Sheremetev's army: 159 people were captured, including a lieutenant colonel and 4 captains. After this, the outskirts of Wolmar were ravaged and Marienburg was besieged. After an agreement was reached on the capitulation of Marienburg, the Swedish garrison, which remained nameless, artillery The ensign, at the head of several soldiers, blew up the armory: one and a half thousand poods of provisions were destroyed, and many civilians died in the city. The enraged Sheremetev ordered all the towers and bastions of the fortress to be destroyed. In addition to other trophies, 22 cannons, 880 fusils, and 54 swords were captured.

By the way, it was in Marienburg that the family of Pastor Gluck lived, where Marta Skavronskaya was raised, having recently married a Swedish dragoon. After this girl had been "used" a little by Russian soldiers, Sheremetev (but, according to other sources, General Bour) took her as a concubine, and then she went to Menshikov. Peter saw this dubious girl with him, and for some time he only periodically used her "services" (and even honestly paid for them), but then took her away from the favorite and sent her to Preobrazhenskoye, where his sister Natalia's estate was located. In 1707 or 1708, Marta was converted to Orthodoxy (Tsarevich Alexei became her godfather), in 1711 she secretly married Peter, and in 1712 - officially. In December 1721, Catherine was proclaimed empress and crowned in May 1724.

But let's return to 1702 and see that in the autumn, Russian troops captured the fortress of Noteburg (Oreshek) - the future Shlisselburg.

And in February or March of 1703, Boris Petrovich Sheremetev, who was returning from Moscow to the army, was almost killed near Tver by some drunk foreign sailor – one of those who were recruited abroad for service in the newly created navy. The convoy of these brave sailors, moving from Voronezh (where the ships were being built) to the Baltic Sea, blocked the road to the field marshal's carriage, the driver and orderly were beaten, and one of the foreigners put a pistol to the hero of the article's chest and fired. Fortunately, the pistol was loaded not with a bullet, but with a wad. Sheremetev wrote to the Tsar:

“I have never seen such fear over myself, wherever I have been against the enemy. And I was riding alone, only four orderlies and four cabbies... And the Russians who were with them, sailors and cabbies, no one stood up for me. And I shouted to them that you would be hanged if you let me be killed... I write this truly, without any pretense. And that they barked and cursed and tore my shirt - I will not mention that.”

Fortunately, everything worked out then, and on April 23 (May 4), 1703, Boris Petrovich Sheremetev moved his troops to Nyenskans – the fortress fell and was renamed Schlottburg. In his army at that time, the heir to the throne, Tsarevich Alexei, was in the rank of soldier in the bombardier company. Note: Alexei first took part in the war at the age of 12, and his father Peter – only at 23.

On May 7 (18), with the participation of Peter I and Menshikov, two Swedish ships were captured from her - the 10-gun boat "Gedan" and the 8-gun shnyava "Astril'd" ("Star"). On May 14 (25), the detachment of Major General N. Verden took the fortress of Yam (now Kingisepp), 13 days later the army of B. Sheremetev captured Koporye. And on May 16 (27), 1703, the city of St. Petersburg was founded.


Peter I against the backdrop of St. Petersburg and Kronstadt

To protect it, construction of Fort Kronshlot (originally Kronschloss) began in January 1704.


Fort Kronshlot repels an attack by the Swedes, early 18th century engraving from the Book of Mars

In July 1703, on the banks of the Sestra River near the village of Joutselkya, Russian troops under the command of Peter I defeated the Swedish units that were trying to regain control of the mouth of the Neva. And on August 22 (September 2), Sheremetev went from Yam to Pskov – through Livonia and Estonia. Schlipenbach, not daring to engage him in battle, retreated, burning bridges behind him and ravaging the surrounding area. In Poland, Augustus II continued to suffer defeats, and on October 3 (14), 1703, after a 5-month siege, the fortress of Thorn (Torun) surrendered to the Swedes.

In the next article we will continue the story about Boris Petrovich Sheremetev and his participation in the Northern War.
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  1. +3
    25 November 2024 06: 45
    Thank you Valery, as far as I remember you have already indirectly touched upon the history of Sheremetyev. An interesting person, mentioned three times in the school history textbook: in the chapters on the campaigns to Azov, the defeat at Narva and subsequent events in the Baltic. His descendants lived until the revolution, and were noted as patrons of the Russian submarine fleet. In fact, along with the Potemkin family, the Sheremetyevs became a household name for the nobility - counts, however!!!
  2. +7
    25 November 2024 08: 56
    "These are the chicks of Peter's nest -

    In the pretense of the lot of the earth,

    In the works of power and war

    His comrades, his sons:

    And Sheremetev noble,

    And Bruce, and Bour, and Repnin,

    And, happiness is a beggar,

    "The semi-sovereign ruler."
    Fragment of the monument to the millennium of Rus'
    1. +5
      25 November 2024 09: 20
      His comrades, his sons:
      And Sheremetev noble,
      And Bruce, and Bour, and Repnin,
      And, happiness is a beggar,
      Half-sovereign lord.

      The main commander of the Peter the Great era in Pushkin is "one of the others" and "many" and only the "son" of the emperor, who was just old enough to be his son. Still, there is much injustice in the distribution of laurel wreaths.
  3. +5
    25 November 2024 09: 09
    the famous Battle of Poltava, in which everyone unanimously calls Peter I the winner. However, in fact, Peter was then in command of one of the divisions of the second line, and the commander-in-chief was Sheremetev

    Tsars always get the goodies, and their subordinates the lumps. So it was Kutuzov who lost the Battle of Austerlitz, and not Alexander I, who had effectively removed him from command.
    1. +5
      25 November 2024 10: 27
      Sheremetyev had everything in good condition with the buns, the tsar did not offend him, he granted him estates and Boris Petrovich provided for his offspring quite well.
      In general, Sheremetyev is a typical Moscow governor, cautious and diplomatic.
      1. +1
        25 November 2024 13: 36
        Quote: Cartalon
        In general, Sheremetyev is a typical Moscow governor, cautious and diplomatic.

        He became firmly attached to Kyiv and only the Tsar did not allow him to stay there for too long...
        1. -1
          25 November 2024 13: 52
          Have you also read the white book from the early 90s?
          It seems to me that Boris Petrovich would sit anywhere, just so long as he doesn’t have to go on these stupid hikes))
  4. 0
    25 November 2024 10: 20
    "at the head of a five-thousand-strong detachment of noble cavalry, he was sent to Reval and Pernov (Pärnu), where he encountered Swedish reconnaissance detachments and defeated them, but then, fearing encirclement, retreated to Narva. Peter I accused him of cowardice and ordered him to move forward again. As a result, Sheremetev's detachment was attacked by the main forces of the Swedes, but, although with great losses, he still led his cavalrymen to Narva. (c)
    Sheremetev, with a detachment of 5-6 thousand people, was sent to the Wesenberg area and no further.
    A small skirmish took place in the area of ​​the village of Varja, where two Swedish officers were captured. The Count's troops did not enter the battle again. There was an attempt to stop the troops of Charles XII in the area of ​​the Pühajõe River, but as soon as the Swedes rolled out their cannons, the Russian cavalry retreated.
    Karl had about 12 thousand soldiers, Sheremetev 5-6 thousand.
    The Count could have decided the course of the military campaign of 1700 with a decisive blow. But...
    Moreover, the Swedes were traveling lightly. Provisions were taken in Wesenberg for only 4 days, and from Wesenberg to Narva it is about 120 km.
    His cavalry took virtually no part in the battle near Narva, but immediately left the fortress along the left bank of the Narva.
    Peter did not punish him in any way.
    But the Count's subsequent military career is very impressive!
    Defeat is a necessary stage to great victory (Churchill)
    1. +4
      25 November 2024 10: 35
      Karl had about 12 thousand soldierst,u Sheremetev 5-6 Thousands.
      The Count could have decided the course of the military campaign of 1700 with a decisive blow.

      Something seems a bit dubious. Especially considering that
      the Swedes rolled out their cannons,

      Just like Bonaparte, who loved to "roll out the guns." They would have easily mowed down the entire Russian cavalry.
      1. +1
        25 November 2024 12: 23
        Sheremetev had at least 3 places where he could attack Charles's army. He made one attempt, and that one went down in Swedish history as the "Pühajës defile"
        Quote: vet
        Something seems a bit dubious. Especially considering that

        Aha! There were up to 40 thousand Russians at the siege of Narva, and Charles had 12 plus 2000 in Narva.
        Isn't this mathematics?!
        Quote: vet
        They would have easily mowed down the entire Russian cavalry.

        Yes, someone would have died, that's what war is for. But the guns still needed to be reloaded, and the action took place on the river bank, and if Sheremetev had attacked, and the distance between the units was only 150-200 meters, then who knows?
        Why attack from the front? You can also attack from the flanks.
    2. +4
      25 November 2024 10: 48
      Hi Alexander, Sheremetev fell into the sovereign's "disfavor" even after 1700. Although it should be noted for a reason...
      It should be noted here that Peter was tough, but in his own way fair and honest with his officer corps.
      In the army, Sheremetev was a kind of "bridge" from the old structure of the local streltsy army to the new recruit army - the new system. He fought, especially at the very beginning of the Northern campaign, and quite successfully, by the way. Of the outstanding chicks of Petrov's nest of equal scale to Sheremetev, I would recall Apraksin and Repnin. The rest were mostly foreigners.
      1. +2
        25 November 2024 12: 37
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Peter was tough, but in his own way fair and honest with his officer corps.

        I don't quite agree with this.
        The Swedes captured 700 Russian officers at Narva, including the Duke de Croy, Yakov Dolgorukov, Avtonom Golovin, Adam Weide, Ivan Trubetskoy, Ivan Buturlin, Alexander Imeretinsky, the Saxon envoy Baron von Langen, Ludwig Nikolaus von Hallart, 10 colonels and several lieutenant colonels, majors and captains.
        Peter didn't buy out or exchange anyone. But there were people he did.
        Duke de Croy, whom Peter left in his place to command at Narva, died in Tallinn in poverty, remaining a prisoner.
        Alexander Imeretinsky, son of the king of Imereti and Kakheti, i.e. the prince himself, was starving in Stockholm.
        Yakov Dolgorukov himself escaped from Swedish captivity.
        Everything was.
    3. +7
      25 November 2024 11: 05
      Karl had about 12 thousand soldiers, Sheremetev 5-6 thousand.

      That's true, but Sheremetev's so-called "noble cavalry" is not very trained and disciplined, and in terms of combat effectiveness is comparable at best to the reiters.
      1. +2
        25 November 2024 12: 43
        Yes, but then she fought successfully.
        An outdated military formation, but what they had.
      2. +3
        25 November 2024 13: 04
        Of course, ideally it is beautiful: horsemen, sacrificing themselves, at full gallop under cannon fire, break into the ranks of infantry. But what if this infantry forms a square? Ney's cavalry at Waterloo never managed to break through these squares, as far as I know.
        "noble cavalry" - not very trained and disciplined

        And what is the condition of the noble cavalry? Considering the general condition of the troops and the results of the Battle of Narva, I'm afraid it's not too good. What if Sheremetev suspects that these mounted nobles will not sacrifice themselves, but will scatter in different directions after the first volley? And then look for them in the surrounding forests.
        1. 0
          25 November 2024 15: 25
          Quote: vet
          Of course, ideally it is beautiful:

          Are you sure you're answering me? wink
          Quote: vet
          And what is the state of the noble cavalry? Considering the general state of the troops and the results of the Battle of Narva

          Since the "noble cavalry" did not participate in the battle, the defeat is in no way connected with it. request
          Quote: vet
          And what if this infantry forms a square? Ney's cavalry at Waterloo never managed to break through these squares, as far as I know.

          Uh... our "noble cavalry" are not cuirassiers, but rather mounted riflemen. and circling around the square, knocking out the enemy is normal for them.
          By the way, the "square" at that time was not yet so effective, since instead of bayonets the infantry still had baguettes
          Quote: vet
          If Sheremetev suspectshowls

          Still, I'm rather suspicious.shaft)
          But, in general, I'm talking about the same thing. The noble cavalry was outdated by that time and not very combat-ready. request
          1. 0
            25 November 2024 15: 41
            Are you sure you're answering me?

            In this case, Alexander: - ee2100
            smile
            1. +2
              25 November 2024 17: 10
              Quote: vet
              In this case, Alexander: - ee2100

              then - oops! hi
        2. +1
          25 November 2024 16: 35
          Quote: vet
          What if this infantry forms a square?

          Pühajõe is "Holy River" in Estonian. The vanguard, crossing the bridge, saw the enemy and rolled out their guns. What kind of "square" is that? On the other side?
          Quote: vet
          Considering the general state of the troops

          I agree with this. And Peter, under the pretext of a rendezvous with the Polish king, ran away, and then the fighting spirit disappeared altogether. Hence the general mood in the troops.

          Quote: vet
          These mounted nobles will not sacrifice themselves, but will scatter in different directions after the first volley? And then look for them in the surrounding forests.

          Firstly, not all were nobles, there were also "combat serfs"
          And then you have some strange idea about military discipline. Where will they run? To the Swede's captivity?
          Look at the map. If you run, then only back, which they did successfully.
    4. 0
      25 November 2024 13: 45
      Quote: ee2100
      The Count could have decided the course of the military campaign of 1700 with a decisive blow

      he was not a count yet...
      1. +1
        25 November 2024 16: 40
        Quote: Olgovich
        he was not a count yet...

        If this is the "history" section, then we mention the hero of the article by his last title.
        1. -1
          26 November 2024 09: 53
          Quote: ee2100
          If this is the "history" section, then we mention the hero of the article by his last title.

          understood: then In 1913, Generalissimo Stalin was exiled to Kureika lol .....
          г
          1. +1
            26 November 2024 10: 59
            When you talk about your wife, or whoever you have, you say "my wife in her youth" or specify "the girl Tanya, who became my wife."
            What's the problem?
            You must understand that Count is a title, and Generalissimo is a rank. Do you feel the difference?
            1. -1
              27 November 2024 14: 29
              Quote: ee2100
              When you talk about your wife, or whoever you have, you say "my wife in her youth" or specify "the girl Tanya, who became my wife."
              What's the problem?

              If you had written that Count Tanya was not yet Sheremetyev, there would have been no questions.
              Quote: ee2100
              You must understand that count is a title, and generalissimo is a rank.

              You must understand that they were neither a count nor a general yet. Or not?
  5. +3
    25 November 2024 11: 53
    the famous Battle of Poltava, in which everyone unanimously calls Peter I the winner. However, in fact, Peter was then in command of one of the divisions of the second line, and Sheremetev was the commander-in-chief

    alternative history has begun...

    The commander-in-chief was, after all, Peter: he decided to give battle, he gathered an army for it, he ensured the overwhelming advantage of Russian artillery, he chose the place of the battle, ordered to build a fortified camp and build redoubts, which confused the Swedes' cards. He noticed the separated column of Roos and, having sent troops, completely defeated it - then Schlippenbach was captured, he led the troops out of the camp and built them in two lines, where Sheremetyev and Repnin appointed to command the center and the right flank, then personally led the counterattack of the left flank, where the Swedes were pressing.

    Sheremetyev is well known, first of all, for taking Noteburg and Nyenschantz - he is mentioned in all excursions

    Marta Skavronskaya, who had recently married a Swedish dragoon. After this girl had been "used" a little by Russian soldiers, Sheremetev (but, according to other sources, General Bour) took her as a concubine, and then she went to Menshikov. Peter the Great saw this dubious girl with him.

    here's a scarecrow, a tour, and look......... belay request
    1. VLR
      +2
      25 November 2024 12: 35
      Nominally, Peter I and Charles XII commanded at Poltava. But Charles was wounded, lay on a stretcher, and the actual command was exercised by Renschold. And Peter, at the head of one of the divisions, stood in the second line, effectively handing over the overall command of the troops to Sheremetev. But he had to take a real part in the battle - not as a commander, but as a battalion commander. The Swedes overthrew and almost completely destroyed the first battalion of the Novgorod regiment, capturing 15 guns - and Peter I led the counterattack of the second battalion of this regiment. During this battle, a Swedish bullet pierced his hat, another hit the saddle of his horse Lisette. What kind of supreme command is this? But the strategic decision to begin the battle, of course, was made by Peter I and Charles XII, and at military councils they made the final decision on the deployment of troops and the battle plan.
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        25 November 2024 13: 29
        Quote: VlR
        What kind of command is this?

        Who defeated Roos' column by sending troops there? Who replaced Menshikov with another? Who led the troops out of the camp and lined them up in battle formation? Who appointed the commanders of the flanks and the center, defining the tasks?
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        Peter I led the counterattack of the second battalion of this regiment

        Quote: VlR
        Peter I led the counterattack of the second battalion of this regiment

        yes, DURING the battle he rushed to save the left flank and saved it. Doesn't change anything.
        Repnin and Sheremetev commanded the center and the other flank at this time.
        1. VLR
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          25 November 2024 13: 53
          Who defeated Roos' column by sending troops there?

          Answer: Russian regiments led by Renzel, who during a three-hour lull accidentally stumbled upon Schlippenbach's lost detachment and captured this general. And then - also by accident, they stumbled upon Roos's detachment, which after an unsuccessful attempt to storm the third redoubt retreated to the outskirts of the Yakovetsky forest and lost contact with the rest of the Swedish army. Roos sent scouts in all directions who were supposed to find the "missing" Swedish army, and far ahead, Field Marshal Rehnskiöld unsuccessfully searched for these units. One should not think that Peter I knew where Roos's battalions, which had fallen behind the Swedish troops, were located, when even the Swedes, who were stubbornly searching for them, did not know about it. That is, Roos's detachment was in the rear of the Swedes, and Peter, of course, could not know its location, and, therefore, could not give the order to attack it. And drones for aerial reconnaissance did not yet exist at that time. smile
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            25 November 2024 14: 46
            Quote: VlR
            : Russian regiments led by Renzel

            And how did they end up there? By chance?
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            stumbled upon it by accident

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            also by chance, we came across it

            lol lol
            And here is how it really was:
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            In total, Roos's detachment consisted of 6 battalions.

            The unprepared assault on the 3rd redoubt by the Swedes (not intending to storm the fortifications, they had not prepared ladders, fascines, ropes and other necessary equipment) led to heavy losses, especially among officers. The commander of the Dalecarlian Regiment, Colonel Sigroth [Swedish] and the commander of the Jönköping Regiment, Colonel von Buchwald, were killed, and the commander of the Västerbotten Regiment, Colonel Gideon Fock, was wounded. Of the 2600 men at the beginning of the battle, about 1500 remained in Roos's detachment by this time. Having abandoned the assault on the redoubt, Roos ordered a retreat to the Yakovetsky Forest, in which he lost sight of the main forces.

            Peter I saw a part of the Swedish infantry break away from the main forces and sent 5 infantry battalions against it under the command of Lieutenant General S. Renzel (Tobolsk and Koporsk regiments of two battalions, as well as a battalion of the Fellenheim regiment) and 5 dragoon regiments of Lieutenant General I. Geinskin.

            The cavalry of Major General V. A. Schlippenbach joined Roos's detachment (c)

            Peter sent Wentzel there to defeat Roos.
            Which is what he did.
            Schlippenbach - yes, I accidentally got into it

            But, again, chance is a consequence of laws. hi
            1. VLR
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              25 November 2024 15: 17
              Well, think for yourself, how could Peter see the "breakaway" of Roos's battalions, which were very far from the Russian positions? If Rehnschild, who was much closer, could not find him? Did some guard falcon tell Peter about Roos's location? Of course, much was written about it later - especially when Peter began to be heroized and mythologized. But in reality, any commander at that time could only give orders before the battle. And then - a couple of volleys - and everything is in smoke. Even if some smart idea appears - how to transmit the order? Radio has not yet been invented. It is necessary to send an adjutant, who may die on the way, may get lost, may not find the regiment that has gone astray, to which the order is intended. And by the time he gets to the necessary combat unit, the situation may change radically. Even in the first months of the Great Patriotic War, they could not establish adequate communications and there was chaos in the troops, to say nothing of the early 18th century. It was later, in retrospect, that everyone urged it on so that the great commander won the battle solely by his wise orders. But, in fact, the greatest commander could only successfully choose the battlefield, arrange the troops well and give general instructions to the commanders - where to move, in what order. And then everything depended mainly on the actions of the lower commanders, the fortitude and training of the soldiers. The Battle of Waterloo began, Napoleon sent an adjutant to Grouchy with an order to urgently go to the battlefield - and at that very moment another adjutant, sent earlier, arrived to Grouchy, who brought an order to continue the pursuit of Blucher.
              And also - "God is on the side of the big battalions."
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                25 November 2024 15: 39
                Quote: VlR
                how could Peter see the "breakaway" of those who were very far from Russian positions Roos battalions?

                Roos stormed Russian Redoubt
                and was visible to Peter and this was BEFORE the main battle, when “smoke covered everything.”

                There, by the way, not long before this, Peter ordered Menshikov with the cavalry to retreat to the camp, he refused (the connection worked) and Peter replaced him with another commander. That is, Peter saw the situation
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                And also - "God is on the side of the big battalions"

                and this is Peter's merit.
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        26 November 2024 05: 50
        Quote: VlR
        But he had to take a real part in the battle - not as a commander, but as a battalion commander. The Swedes overthrew and almost completely destroyed the first battalion of the Novgorod regiment, capturing 15 guns - and Peter I led the counterattack of the second battalion of this regiment. During this battle, a Swedish bullet pierced his hat, another hit the saddle of his horse Lisette. What kind of supreme command is this?

        Before the Battle of Poltava, a deserter from the new poorly trained regiment went to the side of the Swedes. After this, Peter I ordered the Novgorod regiment to be dressed in gray cloth uniforms, which were usually worn by recruits or newly formed regiments. Charles consolidated his battle formations in front of the Novgorod regiment and almost managed to defeat it. But Peter I, foreseeing this, threw a reserve against the Swedes who were attacking the Novgorod regiment and did not allow the line to be broken. That is, Peter I was at the key point of the battle, where its outcome was being decided. As a smart politician and military leader, Peter I delegated important functions to his assistants, whom he chose not by birth and proximity, but by ability and hard work. The success of Peter I was that his team included all the best representatives of Russia.