Lies around Afghanistan

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I. American "achievements" on the historical background of the Soviet "failures"

A report by the US National Intelligence Agency on March 12, 2013, signed by director James R. Clapper, says the following foci of instability threatening the well-being of the United States: Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Sudan and South Sudan, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, Central African countries, and more. etc. The whole world threatens the stronghold of world democracy. Special sections of the report are devoted to China, Russia and North Korea. Flashing there and Iran itself. Afghanistan is mentioned only in connection with the fact that the drug trade undermines American interests abroad; for example, it was she who, according to Mr. Clapper, trade destroys stability in West and North Africa and remains a significant source of income for the Taliban in Afghanistan.

It should be noted that for such a seemingly solid institution as US National Intelligence, the statement is rather strange. The impression is that numerous special departments and US departments eating the budget and often duplicating each other, seeing a threat in the powerful Afghan drug traffic (which is about 80% of opium poppy in the world and almost annual expansion of the acreage!) “Poppy non-interference,” allowing local planters to increase winter and spring crops, to harvest more and more crops and, in fact, to shape the world opiate market.

If you follow this logic further and assume that it is not the Americans, but the Taliban who are engaged in drug trafficking, then why did the ISAF troops allow them to deal with it? Especially since, if such an eminent agency as National Intelligence, sees this as the main Afghan threat to the long-suffering imperialist homeland?

There is a version A. Golikova that dictator Amin was a CIA agent. This is it in 1978-1979. on the instructions of the "overseas curators" he arranged social instability in Afghanistan and then achieved the introduction of troops from Moscow. The fact is that the then assistant to the American president on national security, political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, wanted to "create his own Vietnam War to the Soviets." This half-witted anti-Soviet six months before entering the Soviet contingent in Afghanistan, told Carter, "that the Soviets will soon do it ..." Just a month after the Soviet troops entered, Brzezinski flew to Pakistan. His goal was to harmonize the "joint response to unleash and delay the bloody conflict." (Quotes borrowed from an interview taken from Brzezinski in 1997 year).

Now the Americans, well aware of their defeat in the Afghan antiterrorist campaign, recoup in the ten years of the Soviet campaign. Transform defeat into a victory with reports and media? To this they are great masters.

At the last Munich Conference, US Vice President Joe Biden, giving a speech, call Western wars against Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan "major successes." Unable to resist, he even declared them "models for future campaigns." As if taking the baton from Mr. Biden, General Allen, the former commander of the ISAF, in an interview with the BBC saidthat the coalition is "on the road to victory."

This is not all. Analyst Valery Ross noticesAccording to a recent joint statement by H. Karzai and B. Obama, the learning process of the Afghan security forces by American instructors was characterized as so successful that it even surpassed "all expectations". The rhetoric is truly fanfare.

The solemn victorious march began to execute, however, still Leon Panetta, being the US Secretary of Defense. Last December, the Pentagon boss happily saidthat the Afghan authorities provide security for seventy-five percent of the population of Afghanistan, and in 2013, this figure will be one hundred percent. Leon Panetta noted that the international coalition in Afghanistan is clearly fulfilling the plan adopted by the NATO countries at the Chicago summit. He added: “Although we are withdrawing troops by the end of 2014, our mission in Afghanistan will continue. We are transferring control, but not leaving. ” According to him, the United States intends to continue to help Afghans and train them - so that "so that al-Qaeda will never again conquer Afghanistan." (He forgot only one thing - Al-Qaeda gave birth to the CIA).

Having received a portion of energy, earned flywheel media.

В "The Economist" The article “Opium is a currency,” signed by old émigré Tamim Ansari, an Afghan-American writer and teacher, appeared. The author expressed some thoughts about the past, present, and future of the homeland, which he left a long time ago (he lives in the USA since 1964).

This expat with experience, in 1979-1989. in Afghanistan, who was brilliantly absent, nonetheless categorically stated: Of all the invaders, the Soviets caused the greatest damage to Afghanistan. In his opinion, the Soviets destroyed the social structure so much that even now the Afghans are confronted with the remnants of what they have done.

The Taliban is also a product of the USSR policy. It was Soviet destruction, Ansari writes, that led to the emergence of radical forces. Marginals at the very edge of the political spectrum, reactionaries, almost psychopaths, and former refugees from the camps formed the ranks of the Taliban. In fact, the Soviets spawned the Taliban, says Ansari. Yes, he insists, the Taliban came out of the refugee camps that emerged from the war with the Soviets.

At the same time, Tamim Ansari recognizes the problem of opium. He calls the fields with poppy seeds a “streak” of Afghan life. Well, at least, she does not say that Soviet agronomists began to cultivate poppies in Afghanistan.

An outstanding specialist in Afghanistan, such as Michael Okhanlon, an expert from the Brookings Research Institute, joined the festive democratic chorus. He also did not miss the chance to boast American democracy built on Pashtun land: “... Soviet troops occupied Afghanistan, bombed villages, killed hundreds of thousands of Afghans. The behavior of the Soviet troops, perhaps legitimately compared only with the war in Vietnam. There is no doubt that the US has coped with the war in Afghanistan is not in the best example, and we leave there the local army and police, who over time will be able to ensure the safety of citizens. Since the beginning of the war there have been free democratic elections - twice. We gave the Afghans the right to make independent decisions. ”

"Self Decisions"? “Not an example better”? Why, it depends on what example to give!

In 2012, corruption in Afghanistan reached a record high, damaging the country's budget of 3,9 billion dollars. In a recent study of the UN Committee on Drugs and Crime, conducted jointly with the anti-corruption agency of Afghanistan, ascertainedthat the volume of bribes increased compared to 2009 year on 40%.

The “independence” of Afghans in this area is manifested in the fact that half of the adult population of the country, without extinguishing and not hiding, regularly pays government officials (at least one bribe a year). The one who does not have the opportunity to give bribes, as a result, turns out to be “on the sidelines”: these people are cut off from public services and cannot get a job in public services.

Education in Afghanistan is completely corroded by corruption. While in 2009, the entire 16% of Afghans gave bribes to teachers, in 2012, their number increased to 51%. Teachers are paid to correct the assessment or tell them how to solve problems.

The study found that the majority of the adult population of Afghanistan began to consider bribes an acceptable phenomenon. In 2012, 68% of respondents said they did not condemn officials who charge extra for “services”: after all, officials have a low salary. In 2009, these people were 42%.

Against this background, Afghan President Hamid Karzai regularly promises to defeat corruption. His statements can be put on a par with the victorious reports of Mr. Obama, Biden, Allen, Panetta.

With the Americans, Afghanistan did not become a self-sufficient state: it openly lives on Western handouts. Foreign partners in the coming years is coming pay for the content of the Afghan army. The Afghan army, as well as the police, is likely to be funded from a special NATO fund. It is expected that the United States will make more money than other members of the alliance - 2,3 billion dollars. This is a lot for NATO: there are not enough funds in the fund now. And to solve the financial problem, the United States expects to reduce the Afghan security forces to 2017 thousand employees by 228,5, hoping that by then the situation in the country will fully stabilize.

February 22 Online "The Heritage Foundation" An article by analyst Luke Coffey (who worked at the time in the office of Margaret Thatcher) on the topic of the capabilities of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) appeared. Security is not cheap, the author notes. In the foreseeable future, Afghanistan will need financial support from the international community. Most of the costs after the 2014 year will go to training, training and funding ANSF. Maintaining ANSF at a reduced troop level (228.500 people) will cost the international community about $ 4,1 billion - annually. By the way, this amount of money was spent by the US every 12 days, leading military operations in Afghanistan in 2012 year.

Alas, the financial contribution of the international community today is insufficient. Although the US is willing to invest 2 billion, other NATO members such as the United Kingdom (the seventh largest economy in the world) and Germany (the fourth largest economy in the world) contributed only $ 110 million and $ 200 million, respectively. The international community does not have enough 1,8 billion to fund ANSF for 2015-2017.

Let us turn to the problem of Afghan drugs, which so worries the National Intelligence Agency of the United States.

Only for 2012 a year, according to a report by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, on the Afghan fields Was collected 3.700.000 tons of opium poppy - raw materials for the manufacture of heroin. And last year, the number of poppy grown somewhat decreased - no, not because of the opposition of the NATO forces, but because of the bad weather and the disease that hit the plants.

Afghan villagers significantly expanded poppy planted areas. Compared to 2011, they grew by almost 20% (from 131 thousands of hectares to 154 thousands). Today 80% of the total world crop of opium poppy is removed in Afghanistan.

So much for “independent decisions”. The big question, of course, is who accepts them: the Taliban, peaceful Afghans or their “democratizers”.

The latter, by the way, completely discourage the fight against drugs in Afghanistan - despite the "threat" of almost a global scale declared by the head of the National Intelligence Service. Not NATO is the task - to stop drug trafficking, and that's it.

“NATO is not responsible for the drug problem - in Russia, Afghanistan or Iran. The authorities of these countries and the relevant state structures are responsible for this, ”Robert Pchel, director of the NATO Information Office in Moscow, told 4 in February in Veliky Novgorod. Discussion Passed in the framework of the VIII Winter School CIRP on the theme “Partnership of Russia, the EU and NATO in the Baltic Sea Region: developing a strategic approach”.

Pshel noted that "he does not say that NATO is acting in this direction very well." But he added: “The problem exists. But in this regard, to conclude that NATO is responsible for the fact that this problem exists - sorry. Because our young boys and girls are risking their lives for the security of Afghanistan, and it cannot be understood that they are responsible for the drug problem. ”

Thus, it is obvious: the problem of the threat, called the US National Intelligence Service, exists, but the Americans will not solve it. Especially since after the withdrawal of the NATO troops, the opiates will trample into Russia, that for the United States there is probably the very “good” that does not happen without a “blessing”.

It can be assumed that the contingent that Washington will leave in Afghanistan after 2014 (the rumors go a lot about this, and even Obama and Hagel don't know how many people to leave there), will continue the work that has been going on for ten years with Pashtun ago. Many, many experts, military and analysts in the world believe that the Americans are not going to lose the poppy market.

The Pentagon’s budget will be sequestered for half a trillion dollars in ten years, starting in the current fiscal year. And yet the United States is not going to completely withdraw from Afghanistan. There are good reasons for this.

A year and a half ago, the head of the Russian State Drug Control Agency, Viktor Ivanov summed up American activity in Afghanistan: “I would name three main results. The first is a phenomenal increase in drug production, more than 40 times, the second is the militarization of the region ... And the third result is a humanitarian catastrophe, political instability and expanded reproduction of the militants. ”

By the way, such a drug industry as the production of hemp is developing rapidly in Afghanistan. According to Yury Chkalov, an expert with the Drug Control Agency under the President of Tajikistan, in 2012, Afghanistan became the world's largest manufacturer of cannabinoid drugs.

Ii. Hamid Karzai as America's Flash Critic

In mid-February 2013, the President of Afghanistan criticized the United States and other Western countries, who sent troops to the ISAF. The reason for the harsh statement about the prohibition of ISAF aircraft to participate in military operations on the territory of the country was another "mistake" aviation NATO bombing a settlement in Kunar province. Earlier, such statements were made exclusively by Taliban leaders, said Kommersant columnist Maxim Yusin.

The mistake of NATO aviation, which by its bad habit sees the “Taliban base” everywhere, was that the pilot had bombed an ordinary village. Ten civilians died - mostly women and children. H. Karzai said: "It is shameful for us that the General Directorate of National Security is causing air support from NATO forces against the inhabitants of our state." Then the President of Afghanistan signed a decree according to which "the Afghan security forces under no circumstances can use the air support of NATO aircraft." There is information that at a government meeting Karzai, whom his critics call the “puppet of the United States,” spoke very sharply about foreign powers that were still considered his allies: army and educated youth! "

Further more.

February 24 from ITAR-TASS стало известноthat the president of Afghanistan decided to expel the American special forces from Wardak province. The reason for the new statement was the increasing frequency of disappearances of local residents and the appearance of information about torture.

The official representative of the head of state, Aymal Fayzi, said that we are talking about the actions of the Afghans, who are considered "as part of the special forces of the United States." “There are some people, Afghans,” he said, “who work in special-purpose groups in Wardak province.” They are part of the US special forces. ”

Therefore, Karzai’s anti-American rhetoric could be considered consistent as early as February. In March, the president continued this line.

10 number saidthat the Taliban resumed negotiations with the US authorities. According to Karzai, high-ranking Taliban leaders and US officials meet in Qatar daily.

Both sides, the president believes, are working to intimidate Afghans. “The main purpose of the meetings is to convince the people that with the departure of the troops of the foreign coalition the situation in the country will worsen. The attacks carried out by the Taliban underscore the inability of the country's leadership to do without outside support, ”said Karzai.

As it turned out immediately, this statement is not true. At least the Americans disowned the meetings with the Taliban. Charged with lies Karzai and the Taliban.

As conveyed from Washington correspondent ITAR-TASS Andrey SurzhanskyA spokesman for the US administration told reporters the same day that reports of the resumption of US negotiations with the Taliban are not true. So he said: "This is simply not true." According to this unnamed representative, the US government remains committed to the process of political reconciliation in Afghanistan, which includes negotiations with the Taliban. However, according to Washington, progress largely depends on an agreement between the authorities in Kabul and the Taliban.

Taliban spokesman Zabihulla Mujahid also refuted H. Karzai’s statement. According to him, since the suspension of the consultations, "no progress has been achieved."

In his accusations, Karzai went even further. According to Reuters, speaking in Kabul on March 10 during the visit of US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, the Afghan president, citing two explosions by the Taliban, the victims of which were seventeen people He accused The United States and the Taliban in collusion: “The bombings in Kabul and Khost were not a demonstration of the power (of the Talibs) to America. They served its purpose. They served the 2014 slogan of the year to warn us that if they (the Americans) did not stay here, the Taliban would return. In fact, these bombs, blown up yesterday in the name of the Taliban, served the purposes of the Americans, who want foreign troops to stay longer in Afghanistan. "

The head of the Pentagon later told reporters that the collusion between the Taliban and the United States, which the Afghan leader was talking about, "does not make sense." General Joseph Dunford, commander of the US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, did not put it so mildly: “For the past twelve years we have fought too hard, we have shed too much blood over the past twelve years, we have done too much to help the Afghan security forces develop over the past twelve years so that someone might think that we are interested in violence and instability. ”

Political scientist Nikolai Pakhomov считает Karzai’s statement is absurd: after all, the president attacks the US military, who defend him. Why does Karzai oppose the Americans? N. Pakhomov believes that he wants to raise his reputation in the eyes of his compatriots who regard foreign military presence in the country negatively.

Interestingly, according to the analyst, and more. Karzai’s constant attacks on the United States show that the Americans do not control the situation in Afghanistan, and the Afghan president, for all his weakness, is so important to Washington that he can afford anti-American attacks. N. Pakhomov indicates that the Americans for all the years of their activities have not been able to create political structures that would dominate inside Afghanistan and at the same time be a reliable partner of the United States. “The main American defeat in Afghanistan,” the author writes, “consists precisely in the failure to solve this problem. This is especially obvious if we compare the results of the American presence in the country and the Soviet policy more than twenty years ago. Of course, the Soviet Union was also an external, largely alien force for Afghanistan, but the authoritarian regime of Najibullah arranged according to Moscow’s drawings was quite stable and could effectively support Soviet policy because it was created by the Afghans and according to the Afghan rules. ” Alien "democracy" in Afghanistan has not taken root. As a result, the regime of Karzai was so weak that he could hardly exist without the presence of Americans, the political scientist said.

Thus, the Afghan president, perfectly seeing the retreat and loss of the Americans, and at the same time his own future defeat (it is quite likely that the tragic end), is trying to cover up his “rear”. Nevertheless, the year remaining before the elections is unlikely to increase its rating among the Afghans. AT history Karzai will enter as the American "puppet". It is not known who will come to power instead of Karzai, but one thing is clear: the Taliban will participate in the electoral process.

As for those citizens of Afghanistan who were employed by ISAF forces, they, like Karzai, are already fearful for their security.

Oleg Severgin, columnist "Voices of Russia", cited data from the German Ministry of Internal Affairs, according to which the number of "local staff" engaged in serving the military contingent and civilian structures in Germany in the Hindu Kush is about 1,6 thousand people. (translators, drivers, security guards, technical workers). 1,35 thousand of them working on the Bundeswehr. In February 2013, three Afghan translators appealed to the Bundestag deputies to grant them asylum in Germany. These people are afraid that after 2014, the Taliban will start the massacre of “traitors”. Omid Nuripur, a member of the Bundestag Defense Committee, says: “It is already known that the rebels were stigmatized by the nickname“ collaborators ”. One translator, for example, kidnapped a child with the words: "We are taking you away because your father works for the Germans."

All this once again reminds us not only of the fact that the ISAF is removed back home not having earned a substantial amount of money (taxpayers' money), but also that the Taliban will soon come to power in Kabul. Quite officially - through elections. And to the failed Democrat Mr. Karzai, political asylum will be granted in the United States. Only in order for the White House to save his skin, he needs to curse less about the United States and NATO. Otherwise, they will forget about him at the last moment.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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    1. +17
      15 March 2013 07: 41
      The whole world is threatening a stronghold of world democracy.

      All countries in which there is oil threaten the United States. Well, it’s not democracy to call, but the oil democracy.
      1. +5
        15 March 2013 12: 12
        The United States has no money to bribe, and the Afghan leadership remembered about justice and starving children ... all of a sudden ...
        1. +6
          15 March 2013 14: 24
          I would like to sincerely wish the hamburger eaters more of such "big successes" and "impressive victories". With such "achievements" there is no need to lose wars.
          It seems that the office under the guise of US National Intelligence is actually a kitchen for the production of rotten noodles for the ears of stoned niggaz and obese Mexicanos.
          It’s time, oh, it’s time to start helping Colombian peasants increase their well-being on the mass, highly productive cultivation of coca ...
          1. mda
            mda
            0
            16 March 2013 16: 08
            Quote: Nord
            It’s time, oh, it’s time to start helping Colombian peasants increase their well-being on the mass, highly productive cultivation of coca ...

            And who in the USA is already allowed to sell marijuana ...
        2. 0
          16 March 2013 06: 02
          ShturmKGB
          The United States has no money to bribe, and the Afghan leadership remembered about justice and starving children ... all of a sudden ..


          Yes, Americans have no problems with the distribution of candy wrappers called the dollar. It makes sense to direct the flow of opiates to Russia and Europe. This is a typical war with the main geopolitical rivals in the wrong hands.
    2. Vanek
      +9
      15 March 2013 07: 42
      Oleg, I have not read the article. I just remembered one program on TV. So that's it. They asked the Afghan, they say, how do you live from the United States, "fighting"? And he said something like the following.

      - United States ..... no, they are already tired. It's boring to fight with them. When you were here, it was interesting to fight with them, but not interesting with these. Here are yours, when at least hospitals, schools were built. And these? Tired already. The Soviet Union brought us galoshes fifteen million pairs, when we were only ten. Tired of the Americans already.
      1. +23
        15 March 2013 07: 49
        Oleg, Ivan, hi ! All that the Americans were able to do in Afghanistan was to organize
        1. Vanek
          +6
          15 March 2013 07: 54
          Victor hi

          Quote: Tersky
          All that the Americans were able to do in Afghanistan was to organize


          You can’t argue with you, Victor.
          1. +13
            15 March 2013 08: 14
            Hello everybody!!!
            Some kind of clown from Afghanistan, although his name is more likely to be extorted, says that the Taliban gave birth to the USSR, and that journalists themselves do not remember about bin Laden? It’s inconvenient or you need to submit exactly the right info for zombies.
            The heroin problem will not disappear, a generation has already grown on its sales and they know that poppy planting is much more profitable than wheat. Only the complete and most brutal destruction of poppy fields will wean them to collect it. I went up to the poppy after the rocket flew in, only that way. That would be close to fear poppy milk.
            The rest of the US bravado is not even worth commenting on. Everyone understands a good mine and an empty talk about victories. hi
            1. +11
              15 March 2013 10: 10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              He approached the poppy after the rocket flew in, only in this way, so that they would be closely afraid of the poppy.

              Sasha, or since in Iran
              barbaric but effective
        2. +4
          15 March 2013 08: 55
          Quote: Tersky
          All that the Americans were able to do in Afghanistan was to organize

          So this was the main goal, you don’t get a grasp of the words, one meaning is enough:

          So much for “independent decisions”. The big question, of course, is who accepts them: the Taliban, peaceful Afghans or their “democratizers”.
          The latter, by the way, from the fight against drugs in Afghanistan completely disown - despite the “threats” of almost global proportions announced by the head of the National Intelligence Agency. Not NATO is a task - stop drug trafficking, and that’s it.


          It is expected that the United States will contribute more than other alliance members - $ 2,3 billion. The UK (seventh largest economy of the world) and Germany (fourth largest economy of the world) contributed only $ 110 million and $ 200 million, respectively. The international community lacks $ 1,8 billion to finance ANSF during 2015-2017. Maintaining the ANSF with a reduced level of troop strength (228.500 people) will cost the international community about $ 4,1 billion annually. Incidentally, the United States spent that amount every 12 days, fighting in Afghanistan in 2012.

          Only in 2012, according to a report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Afghan fields were collected 3.700.000 tons of opium poppy - raw materials for the manufacture of heroin.

          In marketable form, how much will it be in money when converted to $ 100 per gram of production ??? !!!!!
          Afghanistan alone with its "collective farms" brings dough as much as the entire oil industry "mattress". Who in their right mind would refuse such a "pie"?
        3. +5
          15 March 2013 09: 06
          Quote: Tersky
          All that the Americans were able to do in Afghanistan was to organize

          "Well, at least he does not declare that poppies in Afghanistan began to be cultivated by Soviet agronomists." - the varieties Kuban sorceress, the star of Kabul and the Pride of the Komsomol are characterized by increased productivity, drought tolerance and resistance to pests. smile
          1. Vanek
            +2
            15 March 2013 09: 13
            Quote: Vladimirets
            pest resistance.


            Colorado beetle? Or amers as such?
            1. 0
              15 March 2013 09: 28
              Quote: Vanek
              Colorado beetle? Or amers as such?

              Both those and those.
            2. +6
              15 March 2013 10: 07
              Quote: Vanek
              Colorado beetle? Or amers as such?

              The weevil poppy (Stenocanus fuliginosus) from the family of weevils has long been described in the literature as a dangerous pest of poppy roots. And for the latter - Poplar "M", "Sineva", "Liner", etc. etc. wink
              1. Georgs
                +3
                15 March 2013 11: 16
                Quote: Tersky
                The weevil poppy (Stenocanus fuliginosus) from the family of weevils has long been described in the literature as a dangerous pest of poppy roots. And for the latter - Poplar "M", "Sineva", "Liner", etc. and so on

                Gee-s! The last sentence smiled. And as for the first one, we must wait until the amers and others like them get out of Afghanistan and start throwing off the Japanese invention of the times of MV2 — ceramic bombs with Stenocanus fuliginosus inside — on poppy fields.
                1. DDR
                  0
                  15 March 2013 20: 33
                  Quote: GeorGS
                  And with regards to the first one, we must wait until the amers and others like them get out of Afghanistan and start throwing off poppy fields

                  Why wait? We must start now, you see, along with the poppy seeds and the "striped whales" will bite their feet fellow
              2. 0
                15 March 2013 11: 23
                If amers refuse to fight poppy crops together with us, thereby covering drug trafficking, then we can fight secretly spreading pests of poppy secretly and spreading diseases for poppy. Precedents have already been http://internet.bibo.kz/408128-neizvestnaja-bolezn-vykosila-pochti-polovinu.html

                Of course, there is an open drug poisoning of Russians from Afghanistan. And until we completely close the borders with Afghanistan and destroy the poppy crops by the methods described above, the Americans will not leave Afghanistan
              3. +7
                15 March 2013 11: 24
                If amers refuse to fight poppy crops together with us, thereby covering drug trafficking, then we can fight secretly spreading poppy pests and spreading diseases for the poppy. Precedents have already been http://internet.bibo.kz/408128-neizvestnaja-bolezn-vykosila-pochti-polovinu.html



                Of course, there is an open drug poisoning of Russians from Afghanistan. And until we completely close the borders with Afghanistan and destroy the poppy crops by the methods described above, the Americans will not leave Afghanistan
          2. +2
            15 March 2013 09: 48
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Well, at least, it does not state that Soviet agronomists began to cultivate poppy in Afghanistan.

            Eugene, hi ! , From Afghanistan, at least 12 tons of pure heroin are smuggled into Russia and consumed by our citizens. 12 tons of pure heroin is 3 billion (!) Single doses.
            scheme
            So they return the seed fund to us in the form of an extract "gerych"
            1. +3
              15 March 2013 11: 11
              Quote: Tersky
              So they return the seed fund to us in the form of an extract "gerych"

              Victor, hi
              Yes, I joked about varieties, this
              Quote: Vladimirets
              "Well, at least he does not declare that poppies in Afghanistan began to be cultivated by Soviet agronomists."

              a quote from the text of the article, indeed they can say that the USSR developed poppy farming and hemp breeding in Afghanistan, and even engaged in breeding.
              1. +4
                15 March 2013 12: 13
                Quote: Vladimirets
                indeed they can say that the USSR developed poppy growing and hemp breeding in Afghanistan

                Easily, Brzezinski did not shun anything ... Yes
                1. 0
                  15 March 2013 22: 07
                  Quote: Tersky
                  Easily, Brzezinski didn’t shun anything

                  Is Bzhik still alive? Enlighten who is in the subject.
                  If alive, then this is someone's flaw sad
            2. +9
              15 March 2013 14: 17
              Quote: Tersky
              Eugene, ! , From Afghanistan, at least 12 tons of pure heroin are smuggled into Russia and consumed by our citizens. 12 tons of pure heroin is 3 billion (!) Single doses.


              According to the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, about 70 tons of Afghan heroin are imported into Russia annually. About 25% of the heroin produced in Afghanistan goes to Russia via the so-called “northern route” through the countries of Central Asia. From 1992 to 2010, the number of drug addicts in Russia increased by more than 9 times. According to 2011 data, 670 drug addicts are officially registered in the country, and according to some estimates, there are almost five times more of them. It is estimated that approximately 000 people die each year from an overdose of drugs or for other reasons related to their use.

              FSKN:
              “Some say that criminal gangs supply 70 tons of heroin a year to our country, but we do not agree with these figures,” explained Viktor Ivanov. According to our estimates, about 30 tons are supplied and consumed in Russia.".


              See what a discrepancy? Surely no one will tell the exact figure - the secret of the drug mafia that regulates the price of heroin policy.

              We will calculate it. (We take as a basis the data of the Americans -70 tons, the FSKN data looks somehow unconvincing in my opinion)
              The wholesale price of heroin per 1 kg in Russia is $ 30, in Europe - $ 000, the United States - $ 70. So the wholesale price of Russian heroin is 000 kg. x $ 150 = $ 000. Plus 70% of the cost of the European price for transit to Europe - 000 kg. x $ 30 = $ 000 x 2% = $ 100
              Amount - 2,24 billion USD annually of net income at the WHOLESALE PRICE of trade in HEROES of Russian drug lords.
              We consider further retail. 70 000 kg per 1000 g (1 gram of heroin costs an average of $ 100 in the country at retail): 70000 x 1000 x 100 = 7 USD. Minus the purchase price of 000 billion. = We get 5 billion. USD income from the dealer network in retail.
              Conclusion: in the country, ANNUALLY, the banking system processes $ 5 billion in retail and $ 2,2 billion in wholesale heroin money. And this is ONLY an AFGHANIAN HEROIN. But there are still billions of dollars from Cocaine, Synthetics, Herbs.
              And what, about 7 billion USD, NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING either in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, nor in the FSB, nor in financial intelligence?
              The fight against DRUG TRAFFIC should be started not from the street, but from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which "protects" the banks. And in an amicable way to get rid of the dollar occupation, because a drug dealer appeared on the streets of "renewed" Russia together with the opened street exchanger. In the USSR, selling drugs for rubles was simply unprofitable, how can they then be exchanged for currency, losing huge sums on the exchange.
              1. Kaa
                +1
                15 March 2013 22: 17
                Quote: Ascetic
                The fight against DRUG TRAFFIC should be started not from the street, but from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which "protects" the banks.

                For example, the instruct the Central Bank of the Russian Federation to provide grants for the breeding of such living creatures.Poppy roots are harmed by larvae of crypto-hunters, May and June chafers, wireworms and false-stalks, bear cubs, caterpillars of winter shovels. Leafs and stems of poppy damage many types of insects - sand lard (young plants), root crab, poppy crypto-scavenger, small-footed acyrrhiza, , caterpillars of chrysanthemum leafworm, winter, cabbage and other scoops, meadow moth. A dangerous pest of poppy is bean aphid, settling on stems and leaves. The exhaustion of juices by the pest leads to a significant decrease in the yield of raw materials and a decrease in the yield of alkaloids by 10–20%. The generative organs of the poppy damage the single-spotted poppy secretive hunter, poppy gall midge, smelly bronze, golden bronze, flower beetles, cabbage scoop, bean aphid, etc. tris. Great damage to the boxes and seeds of the poppy is done by the one-spotted poppy crypto-hunter (beetles and larvae). And also - Peronosporosis or downy mildew, Helminthosporiasis, White rot, Gray rot, Spotting of leaves and boxes Bacterial wilt and rot, Bacteriosis of stems.http: //blogoflore.ru/bolezni-maka.html
                http://onlygoodnewsclub.ru/faunisticheskie_kompleksyi_vrediteley_i_sistemyi_mer_
                borbyi_s_nimi / vrediteli_tehnicheskih_kultur / vrediteli_maka_maslichnogo.html
                Arrange delivery by drones from Iran and Tajikistan... preferably several species at once ...
            3. +1
              15 March 2013 16: 18
              Quote: Tersky
              So they return the seed fund to us in the form of an extract "gerych"

              This means that we need to build a fence here, and organize a "high flow" bypassing our territory straight to the countries of Western Europe. Well, or just across the ocean.
    3. 0
      15 March 2013 07: 54
      Yes, this is all clear, NATO is protecting the Taliban, and they are doing the work for them to destroy the Russian Federation.
      1. +2
        15 March 2013 09: 28
        Rather, the roof of terrorism, because without terrorism, all this aarmada with guns will seem to be as if out of business ...
    4. Vanek
      +4
      15 March 2013 07: 55
      I read the article. Oleg, as always, "+".
      1. +6
        15 March 2013 08: 09
        Quote: Vanek
        Oleg, as always, "+".

        I join good stormy and long
    5. Nesvet Nezar
      +1
      15 March 2013 08: 12
      And why can not we dispose of ammunition in Afghanistan? GLONASS works. Drop expiring bombs from swans and carcasses.
    6. djon3volta
      +3
      15 March 2013 08: 13
      For a better vision, it would be necessary to add material from Leontiev's "Big Game".

      Why did Russia recognize Afghanistan in 1919?
      Even Lenin called this country "the key to Central Asia." Trotsky broadcast that the path of the red cavalry to Europe lies through India and Afghanistan or "The path to Paris and London lies through the cities of Afghanistan, Punjab and Bengal ...". And Stalin spared neither strength nor means to protect Soviet interests in this region. The battle for Afghanistan - this great secret war, in which, in addition to the USSR, Britain, the Third Reich, and the United States also participated - dragged on for the entire XNUMXth century, is not over yet.

      [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_embedded & v = DxrSxKk48Pk]
      1. +2
        15 March 2013 08: 58
        Quote: djon3volta
        Trotsky broadcast that the path of the red cavalry to Europe lies through India and Afghanistan

        I do not know what he was broadcasting there, but in 1945 we did not make a detour.
        Quote: djon3volta
        "The path to Paris and London lies through the cities of Afghanistan,

        In Paris, too, were in the 19th century, and other things, they also managed without Afghanistan and there is a shorter way to London.
        1. ISO
          ISO
          +1
          15 March 2013 21: 02
          Well, if you chew for people like you, something like this: India a hundred years ago was a pearl among the British colonies and mayors, sirs, peers, bzdely at the mere thought that the Russians could go to the borders of this colony. The effect of disrupting the systematic robbery of Indian resources would be far greater than the landing in England.
      2. Georgs
        +1
        15 March 2013 11: 20
        To win a local war, it must be waged on a qualitatively different level. All previous options are ineffective.
    7. +5
      15 March 2013 08: 14
      I don't even know what to say. The whole world is mired in lies. An interesting situation turns out, all these countries of the Middle East, which were "lucky" to try democracy in the American way, behave very strangely. At first, they massively and hysterically demanded the overthrow of their governments - they achieved it. And now what they demand. Take the same Egypt - now what do they want? Or that they are so stupid that they believe the United States in fairy tales about a "bright democratic" future. Yes, everything is simpler here, while the United States gave money and promised all sorts of bounties - everything was in pink. As a result, the pink glasses broke, and a terrible reality came. And most importantly, it turned out that there was no money, no work, everything was destroyed, foreign specialists left - but themselves, and they themselves were parasites. Those who only know how to yell at rallies, smash and rob shops. It seems that the whole Middle East is a bunch of parasites and freeloaders, where only women work. And the peasants either sit in coffee shops, or dispel the boredom of the sword "Molotov cocktails" no matter who. The impression is that they simply do not have their own mind, did not and will not. Afghanistan, with its opium plantations, has become a source of "left" income for all countries of the coalition. Therefore, they allocate money to Afghanistan, knowing full well that they will return it with huge interest.
      And as for the lies from the lips of the United States, hehe, the whole world knows that they are lying, but everyone carefully pretends that this is true. Paradox. By the way, all this talk that drugs from Afghanistan settles mainly in Russia is fiction. This is transit and the main part goes to Europe. In the States themselves, the problem of drug addiction is a big problem. But they again lie. And the fact that the United States has listed so many countries and called them potentially threatening the United States - says a lot. They said this for their citizens of taxpayers, they say you see how many enemies, so tighten your belts and don’t even dream that we will ever return the money spent on military companies.
      1. Grishka100watt
        +4
        15 March 2013 09: 40
        I think in Egypt there was the same garbage as in the swamp area, then bloated in the media - and here is the result. There were no people there, there were, as you put it, freeloaders and parasites.
        media is a powerful thing, you know.
      2. Georgs
        0
        15 March 2013 11: 27
        Daeh ... Everything returns to its own circle. There is nothing new under the moon. Under Mustache, we too were surrounded by enemies. Even domestically. DPRK is now all enemies pasted. So, do you want us to lag behind the DPRK? Moreover, the empire. Like an empire without many enemies?
        1. djon3volta
          +1
          15 March 2013 14: 43
          I wonder how things are in Libya now? Something quiet and no news from anywhere wassat have everyone really become happy and happy? but there is no news because they don’t cover, maybe Libya is no longer as such, and they’re silent about the topic wassat

          (Moscow, March 13) - In Libya, the largest poisoning recorded in history by fake moonshine containing methanol. In Tripoli, 51 people have already passed away.
          1. +3
            15 March 2013 16: 29
            Our media have no news more important than the election of the Pope. Forgive me - some kind of nonsense. And here Russia and the Pope, or we switched to Catholicism, but they didn’t tell us about it. Because of this, the Pope, in exactly the same way, went unnoticed by the news that the Finnish court declared the actions of the social welfare authorities illegal, which took two children from the Russian mother (or rather, when the children arrived at the pope, he simply did not give them back , and forbade his wife to approach them, but the social guard supported. Well, you remember, there was a scandal). We have very strange media, I said this softly.
      3. +1
        15 March 2013 17: 53
        it’s not the people behaving that way, just the Americans learned how to maximize the benefits of feeding 5 columns in countries in which they want to wreak havoc and there is only one way to deal with this is the physical destruction of internal traitors and a tough attacking information policy inside the country, all foreign foundations and societies the slightest attempt at interference should destroy any politician or public figure who received at least a penny from abroad should be shot
    8. 0
      15 March 2013 08: 14
      I don't even know what to say. The whole world is mired in lies. An interesting situation turns out, all these countries of the Middle East, which were "lucky" to try democracy in the American way, behave very strangely. At first, they massively and hysterically demanded the overthrow of their governments - they achieved it. And now what they demand. Take the same Egypt - now what do they want? Or that they are so stupid that they believe the United States in fairy tales about a "bright democratic" future. Yes, everything is simpler here, while the United States gave money and promised all sorts of bounties - everything was in pink. As a result, the pink glasses broke, and a terrible reality came. And most importantly, it turned out that there was no money, no work, everything was destroyed, foreign specialists left - but themselves, and they themselves were parasites. Those who only know how to yell at rallies, smash and rob shops. It seems that the whole Middle East is a bunch of parasites and freeloaders, where only women work. And the peasants either sit in coffee shops, or dispel the boredom of the sword "Molotov cocktails" no matter who. The impression is that they simply do not have their own mind, did not and will not. Afghanistan, with its opium plantations, has become a source of "left" income for all countries of the coalition. Therefore, they allocate money to Afghanistan, knowing full well that they will return it with huge interest.
      And as for the lies from the lips of the United States, hehe, the whole world knows that they are lying, but everyone carefully pretends that this is true. Paradox. By the way, all this talk that drugs from Afghanistan settles mainly in Russia is fiction. This is transit and the main part goes to Europe. In the States themselves, the problem of drug addiction is a big problem. But they again lie. And the fact that the United States has listed so many countries and called them potentially threatening the United States - says a lot. They said this for their citizens of taxpayers, they say you see how many enemies, so tighten your belts and don’t even dream that we will ever return the money spent on military companies.
    9. 0
      15 March 2013 08: 16
      I don't even know what to say. The whole world is mired in lies. An interesting situation turns out, all these countries of the Middle East, which were "lucky" to try democracy in the American way, behave very strangely. At first, they massively and hysterically demanded the overthrow of their governments - they achieved it. And now what they demand. Take the same Egypt - now what do they want? Or that they are so stupid that they believe the United States in fairy tales about a "bright democratic" future. Yes, everything is simpler here, while the United States gave money and promised all sorts of bounties - everything was in pink. As a result, the pink glasses broke, and a terrible reality came. And most importantly, it turned out that there was no money, no work, everything was destroyed, foreign specialists left - but themselves, and they themselves were parasites. Those who only know how to yell at rallies, smash and rob shops. It seems that the whole Middle East is a bunch of parasites and freeloaders, where only women work. And the peasants either sit in coffee shops, or dispel the boredom of the sword "Molotov cocktails" no matter who. The impression is that they simply do not have their own mind, did not and will not. Afghanistan, with its opium plantations, has become a source of "left" income for all countries of the coalition. Therefore, they allocate money to Afghanistan, knowing full well that they will return it with huge interest.
      And as for the lies from the lips of the United States, hehe, the whole world knows that they are lying, but everyone carefully pretends that this is true. Paradox. By the way, all this talk that drugs from Afghanistan settles mainly in Russia is fiction. This is transit and the main part goes to Europe. In the States themselves, the problem of drug addiction is a big problem. But they again lie. And the fact that the United States has listed so many countries and called them potentially threatening the United States - says a lot. They said this for their citizens of taxpayers, they say you see how many enemies, so tighten your belts and don’t even dream that we will ever return the money spent on military companies.
    10. 0
      15 March 2013 08: 20
      Everything will be very simple: the Americans say that the objectives of the operation have been achieved, in Afghanistan it is no matter who is the winner, the election results are recognized by the whole shitty world and you can get rid of it.
    11. 0
      15 March 2013 08: 22
      Everything will be very simple: the Americans say that the objectives of the operation have been achieved, elections are held in Afghanistan, who won is no longer important, the whole shitty world recognizes the election results and you can get rid of it.
    12. +5
      15 March 2013 08: 45
      And I recall one of the programs on TV. I don’t remember exactly, but the meaning is as follows: They showed the locations of one of the Soviet garrisons 20 years later, showed the commander who also came to these places with a film crew and gave comments and conducted, so to speak, an excursion, and so, he met along the way Afghan old man with a mule who was kind of like an elder of a nearby village. This old man recognized the commander and, from old memory, asked to repair the bridge washed away by the flood, which at one time was built and maintained by the Soviet military when they were in Afghanistan ...
      There, by the way, there are still enough rusty skeletons of Soviet technology on the roads there.
      This program was shown in Russia every week before. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the name, something like "I Serve Russia"
    13. +4
      15 March 2013 08: 47
      quote-the Afghan president, perfectly seeing the retreat and loss of the Americans, and at the same time his own impending defeat (it is likely that the tragic end), is trying to cover his "rear". Nevertheless, the year remaining before the election is unlikely to increase its rating among Afghans. Karzai will go down in history just like the American "puppet". It is not known who will come to power instead of Karzai, but one thing is clear: the Taliban will participate in the election process.

      there is a real bargainingbetween, on the one hand, Karzai, on the other, Americans, on the third Taliban. The question is who and how will be able to bargain for themselves more preferences.
      Karzai is a political corpse and I don’t see him in the new scenario. He has another task now to save his life, which is why he is climbing over.
    14. +9
      15 March 2013 09: 09
      The success of the United States in Afghanistan is obvious, but only in the field of agriculture when growing the only plant growing there and the rest ....
    15. +2
      15 March 2013 09: 18
      The Americans have never been particularly burdened with drugs, it would be part of their culture, but the fact that these drugs come to us is a big plus for them. We, unfortunately, do not have instruments capable of somehow resisting the influx of Afghan poison. It is impossible to block all supply channels, to catch everyone who transports, all the more it is impossible to isolate all drug addicts so that they do not have consumers. In this case, only sabotage remains, aimed not only at suppliers, but most importantly at the plantations themselves. Here it is necessary for men to try on science, so that their poppy does not grow or grow. Of course, all this looks too simple and naive, but there really is no other way out.
    16. +3
      15 March 2013 09: 21
      That's just for this amers are not worthy of existence on this planet
      1. Vanek
        +4
        15 March 2013 09: 30
        And on others too laughing
    17. +4
      15 March 2013 09: 52
      And that our science is napping, you give the Colorado potato beetle for poppy and cannabis !!! drinks
      1. Georgs
        +1
        15 March 2013 11: 30
        Quote: vladeinord
        And that our science is napping, you give the Colorado potato beetle for poppy and cannabis !!!

        Duc, there is already, see above. The whole question is delivery.
      2. -1
        15 March 2013 18: 03
        Kanabis do not touch)))))
    18. Suitcases
      +1
      15 March 2013 10: 08
      We, unfortunately, do not have instruments capable of somehow resisting the influx of Afghan poison.

      There are no tools, but desire. If the "City without drugs", where there are just activists, finds "points" and huckster, and the police do not see this point-blank, then in a share. I think the same with large parties. Plus cash flows in the opposite direction side, they will also show a lot of interesting things. It would be a goal, but the means will be found!
    19. 0
      15 March 2013 10: 18
      It is necessary to drop a vacuum bomb on the field, it will burn everything under the root. What is stopping us?
      1. Georgs
        0
        15 March 2013 11: 33
        Quote: krokodil25
        What is stopping us?

        So far, Amer’s presence.
    20. +1
      15 March 2013 10: 24
      what can we say about a country that is in full swing legalizing drugs in its own country !? even if it’s light - hemp, but then there will be more!
      By the way - about the eternal dispute between the AK-M16 - at the top of the post in the photo, the fighter with AK is American, I don’t think he dragged him for the sake of the photo
    21. _Igor_
      +1
      15 March 2013 10: 32
      amers by their activity, created 1 big problem for us and the campaign of business, this was their goal
      I do not exclude the possibility of a provocation, which should provoke us to send troops.
      PS amers threw poppy brushwood into this fire and dumped with a sense of accomplishment
      1. DDR
        0
        15 March 2013 21: 06
        Quote: _Igor_
        I do not exclude the possibility of a provocation, which should provoke us to send troops.

        Once already entered, that's enough. How many boys did not return to their mothers. A poppy can be burnt with the help of aviation or UAVs, or what kind of bug? Forgive me, I am not strong in Latin.
    22. 0
      15 March 2013 11: 09
      The arrival of the Americans, of course, brought heroin smuggling to a new level, but they themselves, to put it mildly, are not enthusiastic about what is happening in Afghanistan. Like Mamontov made a film about modern Afghanistan. This is a country where 80% of the population is tied to "substances". Children are taught to marijuana from an early age. A generation has already grown up there genetically based on drugs, which does not see the meaning of existence without poppy plantations. Yankees shrug their shoulders, not knowing what to do. It seems that weak attempts are being made to combat the spread of poppy plantations, but their command clearly states that in order to fight drugs, you just need to destroy 50% of the country's population. Never, under any circumstances, will they plow the land and grow wheat or work in factories. It is the same. that in Somalia, where a whole generation has grown up in the war, which, apart from piracy, knows nothing.
    23. +1
      15 March 2013 11: 12
      What will be surprised ... since the 50s of the last century, the Americans have been feeding an undisguised craving for countries rich not only in oil but also in drugs ... war in the Golden Triangle ... Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia ... Colombia ... Afghanistan , it’s necessary to pay for the work of private armies of terrorists ... but the State Department’s budget is not a hunt ... dope is a dollar-substituting currency. Drug has actually become a biological weapon ... add a little chemistry and films not only about zombies will become a reality.
    24. Region65
      +2
      15 March 2013 11: 40
      the drug trade is undermining American interests ... well, well))) at the same time, this very drug trade just supports (the last gasp of truth) the miserable economy of green toilet paper
    25. Rrrrr
      +3
      15 March 2013 11: 46
      The Americans are making presents for us. I want to remind you that as soon as the amers entered Afghanistan, the Taliban turned to us for a little help in the form of intelligence and air force. Our refused and Lavrov, like an experienced manager)), he was boasting, you see, they turned to us, but we refused. And that after that, pat all of you on the head and give candy. They profiled such an opportunity to participate in events, to have political weight, and so on, like suckers (Everyone teaches us to teach, they brought us already on a silver platter, and we all goof off ... And then oh, that they don’t listen to us, hysteria. I have double standards. We’ll turn our heads on and think ahead. Specific situation: The French are pedaling the lifting of the embargo on military supplies to Syria. Fast forward a month ago: Mali has brought in French troops and we ran to help, let’s give us a lift, we’ve got comrades and again all the trump cards! And wait to think how it can be used, there are Tuaregs in the same place, and then Africa, uranium, diamonds. Influence. It was necessary to express our concern about the situation by sending envoys to the government side and other parties to the conflict (and there are not only frozen Wahhabis). my colleagues are from the ministry of foreign affairs, intelligence, Putin, they have profiled again! If the people do not work in the field, they’ll fire me! Get competent people. Time is running out.
    26. +3
      15 March 2013 11: 48
      Unfortunately, the only way to deal with these hypocritical creatures on the information front is to shout the truth louder than them. We still have problems with this. A company providing objective information and analytics on the situation in Afghanistan, and other countries where they intervened, would have forced them to put on their pants ... this is more serious than a military threat. This is what we need to learn. In the meantime, only them can be heard, no one will think about how much their nonsense is true. The layman, for the most part, is stupid and lazy ... and even more so the western. A sledgehammer must knock on his brain. bully
    27. 0
      15 March 2013 12: 25
      There is a proposal to help American "friends and partners."
      An excellent "body" has been created in the Russian Federation - the MTR (Special Operations Forces). The doctrine of the Russian Federation stipulates that special operations can be carried out both INSIDE THE COUNTRY and "OUTSIDE", i.e. beyond its borders.
      Given that plantations often occupy hundreds, or even thousands of hectares, I think it is extremely difficult to find them. And if you consider that the plantation takes place to be more than one month, then it’s quite simple.
      There is such a wonderful thing as napalm, which perfectly burned out the "barbaric Vietnamese" used by "the valiant American fighters for world freedom and independence." Why not use this very "means of burning out the Vietnamese" when burning plantations ???? I understand that after such a raid by the Air Force on the plantations, half of Asia will be "smoky" wassat .
      But seriously, drug trafficking (80% is too much to slander) poses one of the most serious threats to the Russian Federation, far more significant than any Taliban, terrorism, etc.! Of course napalm is a radical means, I am sure there are more humane ones. This is a question for specialists already.
      The poor Yankees should be helped to disentangle this mess and finally clean the afghan from plantations. Sow them with parsley at least, and that will be good lol
      1. +6
        15 March 2013 15: 11
        There are cheaper methods of dealing with poppy plantations - spraying poppy diseases from drones, I repeat the method has been tested for a long time.
        1. 0
          18 March 2013 17: 20
          apparently, therefore, there was a certain crop failure. The poor peasants complain that the shortage came out. then tried, BUT LITTLE!

          that doesn’t matter how to do this, only to eradicate this rubbish !!!
    28. 689valera
      +2
      15 March 2013 12: 36
      It is necessary to bomb these plantations with our planes, to burn everything under a clean field !!!
    29. 0
      15 March 2013 12: 37
      Everything is clear to everyone ... the question is what to do? Like amers in Afghanistan, this is beneficial. So, unless you charge science to create diseases for opium poppy ...
    30. 0
      15 March 2013 12: 48
      Amer everywhere and do everything just for the sake of dough. It is their god to whom they pray.
    31. +3
      15 March 2013 13: 28
      Afghans are the owners of a specific mentality. If they don’t get something by force, then this equates to a manifestation of weakness. When we built hospitals and power plants for them, and put them in rubber galoshes, they considered this to be our insecurity and gifts so that they would not hit us. Therefore - at first they are friends with those who give them, but always then they begin to be friends against. Therefore, peaceful cooperation there is impossible a priori.
      On the other hand, the Taliban, created by the hands of the United States, essentially received an economic base on the land of Afghanistan. The drug business will become the dominant territory, and the Taliban will seize power inevitably. T.K. these guys will not sit still, then they will burn Central Asia in the fire of war, even if not immediately.
      What should we do?
      1. Strengthen the border with 10 rows of spines.
      2. For the sale of drugs to introduce the death penalty.
      1. DRILLING
        +2
        15 March 2013 14: 07
        I agree. I want to add an item.
        3. Urgently introduce visas for Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, etc.
    32. Che
      Che
      +1
      15 March 2013 14: 34
      All this once again reminds us not only of the fact that the ISAF is removed back home not having earned a substantial amount of money (taxpayers' money), but also that the Taliban will soon come to power in Kabul. Quite officially - through elections. And to the failed Democrat Mr. Karzai, political asylum will be granted in the United States. Only in order for the White House to save his skin, he needs to curse less about the United States and NATO. Otherwise, they will forget about him at the last moment.

      Maybe we can help the Taliban, let them kick the amers ass. So that the brains turn on.
    33. Gari
      +3
      15 March 2013 16: 32
      Once wrote, I repeat again
      The Taliban in Afghanistan have succeeded in creating the world's most effective drug control system. This conclusion is contained in a report prepared by Professor Graham Farrell of Loughborough University.
      In the 90s, Afghanistan was the main producer of heroin. The tough measures taken by the Taliban at the time in power led to a two-thirds reduction in heroin production in the world by 2001.
      Since July 2000, the Taliban regime has banned the cultivation of opium poppy, from which heroin is produced.
      "The approach was quite simple - the threat of complete destruction of plantations and the rather severe punishments against violators - of particular interest is how these measures were implemented at the local level."
      Peasants caught growing opium poppy were smeared with black face paint (this is considered a serious punishment in Islam) and publicly drove through the streets. The culprits also went to jail.
      As a result of these measures, poppy cultivation in Taliban-controlled territories has virtually ceased, and heroin supply in the world has decreased by 65%.
      Moreover, it was precisely after the start of the US operation and the fall of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan that a record increase in the production of opium (raw opium - narcotic raw materials for heroin production) began, which in autumn 2005 approached a record high of 15.000 tons annually
      “The Taliban Mujahideen ... stopped the production of opium in Afghanistan, but after the invasion of American terrorists ... Afghanistan became the largest supplier in the world market. Today, after the American invasion and deployment of more than 150000 American troops, they have turned the country into the world's largest field of opium poppy, ”the Taliban said in a statement.
    34. Algor73
      +3
      15 March 2013 16: 44
      It is impossible to defeat Afghanistan, you can only be friends with it. This is a mountainous country, the Middle Ages and imposing a foreign culture is unthinkable. What the Americans wanted to achieve there, I still do not understand. But the fact that they screwed up once again - and a no brainer.
      1. 0
        16 March 2013 11: 26
        Look at the history of Afghanistan and you will see that this country was constantly under someone's occupation. They were not allowed to get out of the Stone Age. A couple of decades in the last century they left it free, and then they began to hammer it into the Stone Age again. So the words of the captain from the training course in the film 9th company, played by Alexei Serebryakov: "Throughout history, no one has ever managed to conquer Afghanistan," are the fiction of the scriptwriters. Whether they screwed up or not depends on what goals they set for themselves. If the goals were drug addiction of the peoples of Russia and gayropes and the spread of conflicts in Asia, then they achieved their goals.
    35. vek21
      +6
      15 March 2013 16: 59
      Let me say a few words to the veteran of Zenit, Kaskadov, Vympel, who left Afghanistan in 89, leaving many friends there. In general, the article was written competently, but it was based on open sources. Many of them betray outright stupidity. Here is just one example: a link to the Tajik newspaper Digest Press, which talks about the cultivation of cannabis in 22 provinces of Afghanistan. This is despite the fact that today there are 34 provinces (when we were from 25 to 29 provinces). The author simply has no idea in what conditions cannabis grows. More than half of Afghanistan is in the Hindu Kush, south of it there is heat from March and the Registan Desert. There wheat was grown in irrigated meadows near villages. In about the same way I "stumble" on other links, except for Karzai's accusations of the Americans in close ties with the Taliban. By the way, Hamid Karzai himself is a native of the Durrani tribe, a distant descendant of Ahmad Shah Durrani, who founded Afghanistan. After another six months of staying there, we tried to convey to the Kremlin the precariousness of B. Karmal's position, since he did not correspond to the historically established hierarchy of Afghan society. The leadership of the Union was carried away by the politicization of everything and stepped on the rake in their illusions. Now, in the footsteps of the Politburo of the CPSU, the "Politburo" of the White House from Washington is confidently walking. They have their own illusions, but rake and fuck them even more painful. Not only for Afghanistan.
      1. +1
        15 March 2013 21: 23
        vek21

        Well, our at least created something, amers only destroy. The Washington Regional Committee will certainly get its own, but sorry for the destroyed country.
    36. 0
      15 March 2013 17: 15
      Quote: Chen
      For the sale of drugs to introduce the death penalty.

      while ours play democracy, this will not happen, plus it’s time to gradually get out of the situation in which we are constantly being asked to play in the common sandbox.
    37. _Forgiven_
      0
      15 March 2013 18: 27
      It will be extremely difficult to stop the flow of drugs into the territory of Russia, since officials also have a huge tidbit from this pie. And who will actually cover his feeder, bringing enormous loot? Naturally, no one will do this. It turns out a vicious circle ... Unfortunately ...
      Thanks for the review, Oleg. As always with high quality and without "water")
    38. +5
      15 March 2013 18: 48
      Sir Rodrick Braithwaite is an elite in British society. Senior diplomat, British Ambassador to Moscow (1988-1992), Advisor to the Prime Minister, head of the Joint Committee for Information Services (intelligence) ...
      “I was in Afghanistan. And he asked the question there: when did you live better - now or with the Russians? Interestingly, all Afghans even considered the very formulation of the question stupid. Each of them answered: "Of course, it was better with the Russians." That's what everyone said. They explained that there was work then, but now it is not. Then there was electricity, but now it is not. Then it was more or less calm in Kabul, but now it’s not. Some at the same time nostalgically recalled President Najibullah, assuring that he would be able to cope with today's challenges.
      In Herat, I had a meeting with an old man who fought against yours for nine years, then fought against the Taliban, and now, as I suspect, he is fighting against the Americans. He also said that it was better with shuravi. I asked: “But weren't the Russians more cruel than the Americans?” “Not at all,” he answered. - They were honest warriors, fought with us face to face. And the Americans are afraid, they are killing our children and wives with bombs from the sky. ”
      PS The "SOVIET" occupation still needs to be earned ...
    39. WS
      +1
      15 March 2013 19: 33
      In the course of Brzezinski’s childhood, one of the Russians gave a cool pendell in childhood. And the hatred of ours rushing out of him.
      1. +1
        15 March 2013 20: 33
        Przeko-Jewishness from it rushing.
    40. +1
      15 March 2013 22: 28
      I read, I thought.
      About poppy and ganjibas. It is necessary not only to begin the production of pests of these plants on an industrial scale, but also to develop genetic varieties of poppy and anasha that do not possess narcotic alkaloids, with the aim of overseeding to plantations. The result is the emergence of hybrids with lower drug productivity, and in subsequent generations to zero. That's quite possible. I saw industrial hemp plantations in Mordovia. The bushes are three meters long. According to the locals, it is genetically modified, and does not "poke". The border with Afghanistan must be closed in the most severe way. Preferably with minefields. So that the fly does not fly. Let them boil themselves in their porridge and wet each other. After the end of the DRA, we have no friends in Afghanistan.
    41. specKFOR
      0
      16 March 2013 01: 53
      as you yourself understand, no one will ever close or mine the border! drug business, from which I get money not only producers and distributors, but also state "men"! the fight against drugs is useless at the level of the Federal Drug Control Service, OBNON and other structures so far certain "guys" will not be "removed" from power. And NATO is unlikely to leave Afghanistan in the coming years. 5. According to rumors and guesses, Ukr. the contingent will soon replenish the ISAF number. So we will go straight from Kosovo to "defend" the interests of a "friendly" policy to us, and most importantly - DEMOCRACY !!!
    42. 0
      16 March 2013 06: 20
      Quote: Algor73
      It is impossible to defeat Afghanistan, you can only be friends with it. This is a mountainous country, the Middle Ages and imposing a foreign culture is unthinkable. What the Americans wanted to achieve there, I still do not understand. But the fact that they screwed up once again - and a no brainer.

      Well, the Cossacks won in due time when they went to India and took Afghanistan to the heap, but left it as unnecessary!
    43. -1
      16 March 2013 08: 43
      Amer from Afghanistan will not leave at all. Firstly, nearby are China, Iran, India and Russia. Secondly, in Afghanistan there are a lot of minerals discovered by Soviet geologists.
    44. 0
      16 March 2013 11: 12
      There was information that Albanian traders after the war in Yugoslavia were left without work, and since they only trade and the Yankees are able to organize through them the trade in Afghan drugs in all countries of the geyropa. In addition to deliveries to Russia, a lot of raw materials goes to Albania, where heroin is produced from it and Albanians smuggle it to European countries and sell it by sending money to their families. I would not be surprised if it turns out that the laboratories are located on the territory of the Yankees military base in Albania. And in some kind of movie like this infa was about the war in Yugoslavia just.
      1. vek21
        -1
        16 March 2013 12: 11
        The history of opium and its derivatives on our continent is very old. The origin of this drug is believed to be the area known as the Golden Triangle. Opium was widely used in medicine, it was "indulged" in the highest circles, a reminder of which has been preserved even in famous novels. The introduction of this drug to the masses began by the British, penetrating into China. An interesting chapter in history. A stable route through India, Afghanistan, Persia, Turkey was being established to Europe for a long time. Further - in Albania, opium was brought "to mind" into heroin and a transshipment base was created in Yugoslavia. In the twentieth century, this fishery came under US control. Many special operations were financed from his income, and the entire American democracy was happy - almost no money was spent from the budget for any "Patrice Lumumbus" and other "desert storms." With the introduction of the OCSV, this path became much more difficult, since we did not disdain to communicate with local elders and did not pressure them with force. The Afghans for the most part have acquired in the face of a large Soviet colony an excellent market for all kinds of junk and a source of real help in everyday life. Now the picture is very distorted. Poppy began to be grown not only by the Afridi and Shinwari tribes from the NWPP Pakistan, but also in Afghanistan itself. You can tell a lot about this (Afghan) topic - it's a pity to take a place here.
    45. 0
      16 March 2013 16: 16
      I have this, not quite, that I may have the right feeling that it is necessary to restore relations with the Taliban. They stop all dope, stop looking north. We give them Saudi Arabia, Yemen both, Yzrail and Qatar. Pakistan without Kashmir. The rest can be discussed.

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