Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement with Iran May Not Be in Hurry

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Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement with Iran May Not Be in Hurry

At one time, the topic of signing a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership (CSP) agreement between Russia and Iran was quite actively discussed.

There were certain signals that indicated that the signing could take place on the sidelines of the BRICS+ summit in Kazan, but there was also much to indicate the opposite. The main topic of the BRICS+ summit was, after all, the reform of the globalization model, and the news item on the Far Eastern Trade Union was indeed integrated into this agenda with some difficulty.



History with DVSP is quite long, it has been discussed since 2018, but it is precisely in the last year that DVSP has become much more significant than the free trade zone project. Therefore, our "esteemed Western partners" have made and will make a lot of efforts to put the agreement on the back burner.

But perhaps Russia and Iran need to make an unexpected move – together and in concert, as it were, put this agreement aside for a while and pull the thread of intrigue towards the EU?

That with common principles there can be different goals and objectives


The text of the DVSP was agreed upon two months ago, as evidenced by the published Order No. 288-rp of September 18.09.2024, XNUMX. Nevertheless, the contradictions in the deadlines indicated a serious discussion within Iran. They are quite understandable, you just need to understand their prerequisites, as well as understand the current place and role of the DVSP.

It was ultimately decided to sign the agreement during the upcoming meeting of the presidents of Iran and Russia. The deadline was recently named by the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, A. Araghchi - the next 1-2 months. It is not difficult to guess what interesting things will happen in the West-Iran-Russia triangle by the end of this period - the inauguration of the "bulldozer" D. Trump.

But the inauguration is only a visible part of the completion of other processes that must yield results (or not) in the remaining short period of time. The problem is that both Iran and Russia are in the position of an "escalation fork" in this difficult half-year. Russia is on the Ukrainian front, Iran is on the Israeli front.

Everything points to the fact that choosing a move with a positive outcome for one player leads to a negative outcome for the other player. Either Russia takes on the burden of escalation, and Iran eases it, or vice versa.

Playing a distributed strategy, where both players share the burden of escalation and share some semblance of gain, is very, very difficult for Tehran and Moscow.

If we understand escalation in the same way, then our understanding of winning is different from Iran's. At the so-called "meta-level," our and Iran's theses are in tune: reform of global governance, getting rid of the dictate of sanctions, and returning to objective criteria in politics instead of the current subjective ones. At the level of a specific strategy, our goals and objectives differ.

Here, apparently, lies the reason for one of the frequent mistakes of domestic popular expertise, when a declaration of general principles automatically transfers one or another player to the category of our allies.

A declaration of common principles is not yet a union treaty, not a coalition. The specific result for each player may be different even under the condition of a common fundamental framework. And this difference is precisely what is holding back the signing of the DVSP in the current reality, which, by the way, Western diplomacy is making good use of.

On the problem of military escalation based on the “either-or” principle and its prerequisites


Both domestic and Iranian expertise this year, if we count the year from last October, found themselves in a difficult situation. Hamas and Israel, having launched the massacre in the Gaza Strip (later Lebanon was added to it), being the original and fundamental antagonists, each in their own way broke the American Middle East strategy.

Here we can discuss at length the involvement of Great Britain, but this does not change the essence. The ideas of the "Indo-Abrahamic bloc" were simultaneously being broken from both sides.

In general, it was no secret, and a lot of material was published about this, that the US, under the current administration, did not intend to bring the friction with Iran to a full-fledged escalation.

The Indo-Abrahamic concept presupposes economic restrictions on Iran's zone of influence in the Middle East. Depending on the results of the overt and covert dialogue, these restrictions could be made in a strict form (sanctions) or accepted by Iran itself in exchange for American concessions.

For Iran, its trade and financial network in the Middle East is of critical importance, and bargaining on this issue is the main thing for it, while other issues (except perhaps supplies to China) are one step lower. For the current US administration, a soft solution on Iran's zone of influence was preferable, since it allowed it to concentrate resources on us and the European direction.

For Israel, such an agreement led, one way or another, to the preservation (albeit with limitations) of the Hezbollah factor, as well as the requirement to continue to work within the framework of the “two-state” paradigm (Israel and Palestine).

The thesis of two states was part of a larger “Indo-Abrahamic pact.” The idea of ​​a pact in Israel was perceived, perhaps, positively, but only without “two states.” Similarly, for Hamas, such a concept carried the burden of critical costs — with two states (full-fledged, not declarative, as was the case in the past) and a pact, the very existence of Hamas lost its meaning. In fact, the finalization of this process led to the inevitable self-dissolution of the movement.

While locked in mutual slaughter, Israel and Hamas acted towards the US as if they were working on the same side and against the US.

After it became clear that the “coup d’état” to oust J. Biden following the summer debates had failed, and the American administration had generally let go of the reins in terms of foreign policy, all players decided to take advantage of the window of opportunity according to the principle “whoever takes as much as they can before January 20th will remain with that after January 20th.”

Israel has been going all-in since August, essentially provoking Iran into a full-scale war. If D. Trump comes after the 20th, he will support the toughest option, if K. Harris comes, her administration will have to bargain, taking into account a weakened Iran with a very battered infrastructure of its proxies in the region.

The US managed to reduce the intensity only at the end of October, since the attack by Iran played into the hands of the Trumpists, and the attack by Israel played into the hands of the Democrats. These waves seemed to cancel each other out. Along the way, it turned out that one of the real conductors of the Democrats' policy in Israel unexpectedly turned out to be none other than Defense Minister Y. Galant himself, who "leaked" the plans to attack Israel to the press.

The position that "escalation is possible either with Iran or with Russia" is not so much connected with large expenses - the US has the means - but with the fact that escalation in Europe is part of the original concept, while in the Middle East it destroys the concept. D. Trump's ideologists have it the other way around. The Middle East must be controlled as a single raw materials cluster, and the situation in Europe must be fixed.

The theatrical nature of American political culture and the corporate revenge factor


The current administration has exactly two months left to govern the United States. It is no longer responsible for the Middle East strategy as a whole, but they are obliged to preserve at least its most important elements in order not to lose influence, to preserve the contours of those foreign policy blocs that they have been creating for several years. However, the factor of corporate revenge is also at work here, it should not be written off.

American public policy is always a show, with a lot of pathos and some kind of primitive carnival. Many in the world do not like it, many do not perceive it and do not even consider it adequate, but their policy was formed this way. Chinese political symbolism is also not for everyone, our political culture is also perceived ambiguously in the world.

However, even for an American carnival, D. Trump after his victory arranged something that went beyond the bounds of decency. Even before the elections, the parties walked on the edge and often beyond the bounds of what was acceptable, but after the announcement of the winner, D. Trump nevertheless became the all-American president, which imposes restrictions.

Showman D. Trump has no stoppers or flags yet. Some of the faces he introduced as part of the team look very strange. The future "head of the Pentagon" with tattoos and the experience of a line colonel in Iraq, or the future attorney general who said at a rally that abortions are protested by 150 cm tall, 300 kg toads who will never get pregnant because no one needs them.

This is not an administrator or a top-tier politician - this is a stand-up comedian, and not a high-flying one at that. A barroom-level attack.

But D. Trump's team is now officially everyone's team in the US, even those whose height and weight are far from the ideals of the glossy magazines, and even those who are adherents of the ideas of liberal schizophrenia. But even without such antics from D. Trump's team, there are too many attacks, and they are becoming part of a two-month show in the style of "we'll get everyone."

For D. Trump, this is not only a performance, but also a kind of strategy, the scenario of which is similar to D. Kharms' humorous sketches "from the lives of writers." There, L. Tolstoy loved children, but he disliked A. Herzen so much that he chased him everywhere with a crutch. And then one day, having finally caught up with Herzen, Lev Nikolayevich, who "was not a monster," to everyone's amazement, stroked his head in a fatherly way.

The works of D. Kharms are grotesque, but D. Trump, in essence, is performing a similar production - threatening bureaucrats with a "crutch" for two months, in order to then scold them, pat them on the head and send them en masse to fulfill their duties. Who from the highest bureaucracy will fall under the real steamroller, no one knows yet, it is clear that someone will end up in the millstones. But D. Trump is escalating and escalating.

Should the bureaucracy give an answer to these productions and performances? Of course. And the answer is not so simple for D. Trump and his team, which does not even have a framework concept of foreign policy. What is even worse is that these steps are directly reflected in the Ukrainian direction. The topic of strikes with long-range weapons is also from this series.

Nuclear deal and sanctions


The new cabinet is guaranteed to get bogged down in the Iran and Israel issue, so by creating a stalemate for D. Trump in Ukraine, the current administrators are tying his hands in the Middle East. If Ukraine is pumped up (while there is still an opportunity) weapons and unite an army of tin soldiers from the European bureaucracy with their budgets, then the Kiev regime can very well do a lot of things in two months, and then for another six months even demonstrate a kind of opposition to Washington.

But what does this mean in terms of Iran? It means that the topic of returning to the nuclear deal, which is so fundamental for it, could well be activated through the outgoing US administration, but with the direct participation of Brussels and leading European countries.

If a platform for negotiations is created that D. Trump will be able to step over only with great effort, and the entire burden of escalation is transferred to Russia, then the topic of the Far East Cooperation Treaty between Iran and Russia will be put on hold.

Let us note that while the IAEA is fussing over inspections, and a number of people from the top echelon in Iran are talking about the timeframe for creating nuclear weapons, and France and Germany are declaring the need to return to the nuclear deal, Brussels is introducing another package of sanctions against Iran. But what is the package aimed at and what has Iran not seen in these sanctions in 30 years?

The DVSP is a development of the agreement on a free trade zone with access to industry integration (raw materials), scientific, investment, cultural and only very indirectly military integration. However, the DVSP is tied not only to Russia and Iran, but to the EAEU and its regulations, and also indirectly to other Central Asian countries, in particular Uzbekistan.

The Central Asian countries are a kind of intermediary in circumventing sanctions, but intermediaries that are constantly giving up their positions. Secondary sanctions still work even in China, not to mention Central Asia.

The stronger the sanctions pressure, the more difficult it is for Russia to work - this gradually neutralizes the value of the Far East Development Strategy for Iran. And the more Central Asian countries give in, the more Brussels' appetite awakens to increase pressure and play a "push-pull" game around sanctions and agreements around Iran.

But in Russia, delays in signing this agreed-upon treaty are already being viewed as Iran's hesitation and Tehran's deliberate weakening (under Western pressure) of bilateral ties. And there is logic here from the liberal part of Western politics - no matter how much D. Trump threatens, he cannot completely squeeze the EU's throat. He is a bulldozer, but he cannot demolish every obstacle.

Summary


It is not for nothing that the EU is so attentive to Russian-Iranian relations and is monitoring the issue of the Far East Security Treaty Organization. Now literally everything will be done to drag us into the escalation funnel in these months and to show that everything in the Middle East is heading towards calm. And the story with the permission to strike with long-range weapons is part of this policy. This issue will be escalated and escalated, and Kyiv has the resources for another breakthrough on the ground.

The carrot and stick policy towards Iran is quite transparent there: the right hand is sanctions allegedly for military supplies to us, the left is negotiations on the nuclear deal. It seems that everything revolves around military-technical cooperation between Iran and Russia. But the number one task is not military-technical cooperation, and the leveling of Russia's efforts to reach the south — to the Indian raw materials and trade corridor. The Far East Trade and Export Cooperation is quite logically considered as a condition for such a corridor. Iran is in a rather difficult position here, since it is not its own enemy to take the escalation upon itself for our sake.

But what happens if we postpone the promotion of the FESP and focus on specific bilateral step-by-step rather than comprehensive agreements with an emphasis on countering any efforts by Donald Trump to pressure Iran from the beginning of next year and declaring this as a priority? This will make very significant adjustments to the current game model. Unconventional moves, taking into account the political inertia of the major players, always work well.
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  1. +1
    20 November 2024 06: 05
    Haste makes waste...
    1. 0
      21 November 2024 20: 19
      "Is the enemy's enemy always my friend?
      We know of cases in history
      How a friend suddenly became fraternized with an enemy
      Leaving us on the battlefield."...
  2. +1
    20 November 2024 06: 06
    Of course it’s not worth it, otherwise you’ll have to report before the dance and shove another trump card into their hands.
    1. +1
      20 November 2024 06: 25
      There shouldn't be any dancing here, they just don't allow Americans to be called that. They do respect us though!
  3. -1
    20 November 2024 10: 35
    "Tehran considers Russia fragile and weak": Iranian expert "explains" the essence of the alleged disagreements between Russia and the Islamic Republic"
    In light of such news, I think "there is no need to rush" (c). Yes
    1. +7
      20 November 2024 10: 54
      "Tehran considers Russia fragile and weak": Iranian expert "explains" the essence of the alleged disagreements between Russia and the Islamic Republic"


      The expert is Fardin Eftekhari, who commented for Middle East Eye

      Middle East Eye (MEE) is a UK-based media outlet that primarily covers news related to the Middle East, North Africa and the wider Muslim world. It is funded by the Qatari government, although the organisation denies this.


      Sources vary. This one is roughly like our analogue of the "Dozhd" TV channel, broadcasting from the "European garden". Our scientists also write a lot for the Carnegie Foundation, etc.
      ***
      But you should make allowance for the fact that the Iranian opposition is in London never Unlike our Navalny supporters and others, Albats and Shenderovichs will never call for something like "give us missiles to bomb Iran." They will not march in Berlin like "give Ukraine missiles."
  4. +2
    20 November 2024 13: 09
    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    "Tehran considers Russia fragile and weak": Iranian expert "explains" the essence of the alleged disagreements between Russia and the Islamic Republic"


    The expert is Fardin Eftekhari, who commented for Middle East Eye

    Middle East Eye (MEE) is a UK-based media outlet that primarily covers news related to the Middle East, North Africa and the wider Muslim world. It is funded by the Qatari government, although the organisation denies this.


    Sources vary. This one is roughly like our analogue of the "Dozhd" TV channel, broadcasting from the "European garden". Our scientists also write a lot for the Carnegie Foundation, etc.
    ***
    But you should make allowance for the fact that the Iranian opposition is in London never Unlike our Navalny supporters and others, Albats and Shenderovichs will never call for something like "give us missiles to bomb Iran." They will not march in Berlin like "give Ukraine missiles."

    And this is possible because the Iranian opposition, unlike ours, knows that such demonstrations will not pass without a trace for it, and... bloodlessly. bully
  5. +1
    20 November 2024 13: 46
    Mikhail, what do the "rich" want? They want the dominance of private property, which is possible only with the constant operation of the mechanisms and instruments of privatization, which form global financial oligarchies and, dependent on them, peripheral oligarchies. With such a policy, the rich become richer, and the poor become more numerous, and the "philosophy of squirrel cages" is realized: Either you build "squirrel cages" for others or... You spin them yourself! (Neither the country nor the population move anywhere, along the road of History, and do not develop, but stupidly, in one place, spin their squirrel cages, earning capital for the "masters" and a penny for themselves to support their families. Poverty, in such oligarchies, is like their own shadow, like a birthmark on the faces of these "gentlemen". The poor are not dangerous to oligarchies. They can be bought with handouts of "social assistance", they can be deceived with the prospect of empty promises and show trials of "renegades". Oligarchies are directly interested in the poor. The poor, in the system of oligarchies, cannot fight for their interests because they do not have marketable property and the economic and political interests associated with it.
    What do the "poor" want? The poor want "nationalization" of property, that is, state socialism or, at least, parliamentary social democracy. But the work of the mechanisms of "nationalization" of property is impossible without a significant layer of state bureaucracy, to whom the poor transfer the right to manage and dispose of state property and the distribution economy, as well as to organize and personally direct the poor population in moving towards the social ideal of communism or "socialisms". But this is in the book "ideal", and in life everything happens differently, since 2-3 generations of the party-economic nomenklatura pass and these bastards launch the mechanisms of privatization of property. And what they managed and governed, the new oligarchs/yesterday's nomenclature, begin to own (. Why? Because bees don't fly against honey)... Property is plundered, the population is cynically robbed, burgled, and then sent "into retirement" (. And "peripheral" oligarchies arise, integrated by Western entities into their global economy, as a raw materials appendage, financially, and economically dependent on the financial global oligarchy, with liberal "squirrel cage" economies.
    History shows that neither the working class, nor, especially, the proletariat, can control the party-economic nomenclature, the structure of ownership and the structure of the economy because they do not have market-valuable property and the economic and political interests associated with it.
    What does the "petty-bourgeois" layer of the population want? Since this is an educated and qualified layer, it understands that for its survival, development, and struggle for its interests, it must control large owners, bureaucracy, the property structure, and the structure of the economy. And this is possible only with the constant functioning of the mechanisms and instruments of "nationalization" or socialization of private property, and the formation of Public power, acting in alliance with the Social State, which hinders the development and functioning of the mechanisms and instruments of "privatization" or maximum "nationalization" of property. Such petty-bourgeois "socialization" of private property is possible in the case of the formation of socio-economic structures of collective private property, a corporate socio-political association, this layer of the population, into a real political middle petty-bourgeois class, with the direct participation of this class in the activities of district and city government bodies, as well as its mediated representation, through a serious political party, in the bourgeois state parliament.
    Only on the basis of the middle petty-bourgeois political class, formed by the Social State and Public Authority, is it possible to create a bourgeois Nation, which through a targeted fight against poverty, and the functioning of mechanisms and instruments of "nationalization" of property, will allow all the poor, capable of social and productive activity in socio-economic structures, and work in local government bodies, to become collective owners of the country. And to increase the number of the middle class to the ruling majority in the country. A majority, capable of economically and politically suppressing the dominance of private property, and capable of becoming the social base of national democracies.
    What is all this about? The point is that any, even the most idealistic philosophical worldview has rigid, and sometimes cruel, material frameworks. And foreign policy in particular, and geopolitics in general, in a bourgeois, that is, urban society, WILL ALWAYS PROTECT AND PROMOTE SPECIFIC INTERESTS AND GOALS OF SPECIFIC RULING POLITICAL CLASSES OR NATIONAL-PUBLIC CORPORATIONS. And that means: "Whose property, HIM the power!"

    P.S. So who are you with, citizen Mikhail Nikolaevsky? Whose "trench", whose side are you choosing in the war that was not started by us, but which we will be forced to wage in order to simply create and leave a future for our children? Or will you continue to "channel" under the image of an armchair scientist, who is "above the fray" and analyzes political and economic processes "from the sidelines"?
    1. +2
      20 November 2024 14: 59
      I didn't quite understand how this relates to the topic of the material. Apparently, you are simply "in general" asking questions about the relationship between the analysis and the side from which the analysis is performed.

      Let's start with the fact that a "scientist", as you put it, even if he flatters me in some way, even if undeservedly, is simply obliged to be "above the fray".

      From a trench, as you put it, you can only see your own sector of fire, which was assigned to you and written down in the corresponding card. In a trench, you don’t even see the fire system. If during a battle you do something other than what is written down in your card, but study the “general contours,” then at best you will be subject to a penalty. So you need to be more careful with the trench analogy here and at least use the more general term “take a side.”

      You use it too, but you put an equal sign between "trench" and "side". And they are close, but not identical in meaning and essence. Here is my correct side - ours, our homeland, and not some other one.

      If we continue to experiment with the trench and the side, then we get something like this - on one side there can be different trenches with different flags: red, imperial, the Image of the Savior Not Made by Hands, an icon of Nicholas II, a bust of Stalin, etc. But has an objective analysis of each of these periods and each ideological doctrine inherent in it been done so far? No, it has not. There is still no full-fledged analysis of productive forces. In my opinion, only A. Isaev in his enormous work made steps towards an objective analysis of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. But where is everything else?

      Then what trenches are we talking about? This is pure subjectivism. And here I will give you a quote from the polemical "Anti-Dühring" by F. Engels, which has long since (and deservedly) become a classic. Modern Marxists love it, but for some reason they read it little, i.e. they love it like the "beautiful faraway" from a song.

      For the metaphysician, things and their mental reflections, concepts, are separate, unchanging, frozen, once-for-all given objects, subject to investigation one after the other and one independently of the other. He thinks in continuous, unmediated opposites; his speech consists of: "Yes - yes", "no - no"; anything more than that is from the evil one."

      For him a thing either exists or does not exist, and in the same way a thing cannot be itself and at the same time other. Positive and negative absolutely exclude each other; cause and effect are also in a frozen opposition to each other.

      This way of thinking seems at first sight quite acceptable to us because it is inherent in what is called common sense. But common sense, a very respectable companion within the four walls of its domestic life, experiences the most amazing adventures as soon as it dares to go out into the wide expanse of research.

      The metaphysical method of understanding, although legitimate and even necessary in certain areas, more or less extensive, depending on the nature of the subject, sooner or later each time reaches that limit beyond which it becomes one-sided, limited, abstract and entangled in insoluble contradictions, because it does not see the mutual connection of individual things, their origin and disappearance behind their being, forgets their movement because of their rest, does not see the forest for the trees...


      Here you are, demanding both an “objective analysis” and a definition of “your trench”, doing exactly what the classic wrote about in his dispute with Eugene Dühring.
      1. +1
        20 November 2024 16: 44
        Mikhail, tell me, how can I demand anything from you?) Reading your articles, I am exactly waiting for an objective analysis, which in my opinion is impossible without choosing a specific, political-economic "side" or a speculative class "trench". Otherwise, it is simply scholastic logic, a set of facts and abstract "observations" divorced from real life, deliberately avoiding the sharp corners of class or corporate political-economic contradictions, and ignoring the relations "subject - object" in world politics, and financial and economic relations. And as for metaphysics, then, in my opinion, Saint-Simon also spoke about several periods of knowledge of the surrounding world, religious, metaphysical and, the most recent, to date, scientific and methodological period of knowledge of the laws of Nature, human thinking, and socio-production relations. F. Engels and K. Marx analyzed the laws of social development from the point of view of the interdependence of mechanistic physics, German Hegelian logic and French social ethics. And this, at that time, was a serious foundation. But, as I already wrote to you, that if physics, over the past 150 years, has developed radically, then a new logic and, dependent on them, ethics should also develop. And they, most importantly, CANNOT NOT BE abstract, discussing and observing, completely torn away from the real political-economic struggle for specific interests, specific social strata, political classes or national-public corporations. This is the main meaning of my comment: who benefits, in whose interests and who is the "subject" and who is the "object" (...
        By the way, when I used the analogy with the "armchair" scientist, I didn't mean flattery). It's just stupid. I used the comparison "like").
        1. +1
          20 November 2024 19: 49
          An analyst cannot look "from the class side". It is impossible. Do you think that third-party audit agencies exist just like that? No. They are needed precisely because it is impossible to adequately and fully examine what is happening from the inside. An outside, uncommitted and unbiased view of this is needed periodically. The ability to look from the outside and the ability to emerge and turn your head from side to side is the main quality of an "analyzer", as the Iranians say.

          I really like this “analyzer”, the analyst is somehow small, in the “Euro-Geist” style, but the analyzer sounds good)).

          Then, I really don't understand why you call non-class analysis "abstraction"? You're talking about social needs and class approaches. Well, well. And what are "class desires" in that case?

          During perestroika they wanted "boots" and "a hundred varieties of sausage", was that a class desire? Absolutely. Well, there is sausage - plasticine from chicken fillet, boots from "something", but a lot. And how is that not the realization of a class desire.

          Others wanted "a monarchy and a father tsar" - and how is the current one not a tsar? Or not the one and not the way the monarchists wanted? But be careful what you wish for.

          Others, the "reds", wanted USSR2.0 - here you have USSR2.0, complete friendship of the people, internationalism, migrant proletarians united in a "new social community". Don't like it? Be careful what you wish for.

          What's not to like? Why are both the whites and the reds so sad? Everyone's wishes are fulfilled and there's also sausage + boots? Why is there no joy?

          However, there is joy

          According to research by VTsIOM, 79% of Russians feel happy, and about a third of them consider themselves definitely happy, despite a slight decrease in happiness compared to last year. The highest level of happiness was recorded at the beginning of 2024, with a peak in January-March and in June, amounting to 83-84%. However, in August, this figure dropped to 78%, which, nevertheless, is slightly higher than the average level of happiness in the same period last year.


          This is for those who do not realize that their wishes have come true.

          So which side, the trench, should I join and write based on their "desires"? From "father", "internationale" or from sausage and boots?
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            20 November 2024 20: 20
            Which side should you "join"? Well, excuse me, I won't live your life for you). It's up to you to live and decide, too). That's not what I'm talking about) But why does an "analyzer" conduct a systematic, comprehensive analysis of political and economic relations, foreign and domestic policies of state and private global SUBJECTS? To say that yesterday, big crayfish were on sale, but for five rubles, and today for three rubles, but small ones? So what? Who will use such "analytics" without a subjective connection to the ruling clans, classes or corporations? Why are political and economic, state systems created, with their structure, goals, objectives and interests? Really, as an "organization for the sake of organization"? Then why should specialists, employees or those working in them "pull" this strap if they don't know why they are doing it? Only for a salary and career growth? I don't think so. Any analytics not only observes and describes ongoing "processes", but, as I have already written, helps to perform qualified subjective actions to influence various objects and processes, in the specific interests of specific customers and beneficiaries. Otherwise, it is steam released into a whistle and the benefit from it is only noise in the ears (.
            1. +1
              20 November 2024 20: 25
              Absolutely not. The auditor at the enterprise does not act even in the interests of the owner. He simply gives the analysis as it is. The owner himself already reads this "book of sins" and makes decisions himself. He is the customer, but the auditor does not consider him as a subject.
              It should be so, otherwise it is not an auditor, not an analyst, but an agent of a specific beneficiary. It is clear that in life the second option often works.
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                20 November 2024 20: 30
                Well, whose agent-analyst is he, if he spins the "squirrel cage" of a specific political-economic subject - the beneficiary? Who orders his analysis? Who uses the results of this analysis and makes specific decisions?)
                1. +1
                  20 November 2024 20: 37
                  There is such a thing as the System of National Accounts, where different GDP, GNP and other things are derived. Whoever the customer of the analysis is, the analysis itself does not depend on the customer. If the indicators are "adjusted", then this is NOT an analysis. If the analyst writes that in a given container there is 1 liter and 40 degrees, at 0,95 and 36 degrees, then this is not an analysis.
                  But how to use it and by whom, well, that's another matter. I just suspect that you are mixing up "analysis" and its "interpretation". Interpretation can be in someone's interests, but not analysis.
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                    20 November 2024 20: 47
                    Mikhail, who uses the results of fundamental and applied scientific research, who and for what invests astronomical sums in this research and for what? For permanent philanthropy or the struggle for power, information and resources! And, in my opinion, you simply extract some section from the "technological chain" of the historical existence of world entities, and elevate it to the absolute. It's not funny(...
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2024 20: 51
                      who uses the results of fundamental and applied scientific research, who and for what invests astronomical sums in this research and for what purpose


                      I'll probably shock you - NOBODY uses it. And it's not really funny.
        2. +1
          20 November 2024 20: 12
          I will tell you even more than I wanted at first. If you do not want to go crazy in the present time, then the best thing is to develop an "outside view" and immerse yourself in reading as much as possible. But not just classics, but probably even ancient classics.

          For an analyst, this is a unique, incomparable time, but for a person with what you call a "class" or "social" trench position, it is a difficult time. This is the time of the cornerstone, against which all familiar concepts and schemes are broken. Each of the concepts and schemes is developing and each can be seen in how people's desires are fulfilled. Whether white-monarchist, red-international, black-nationalist, blue-liberal, green-traditionalist-religious. They all crash against reality like plates. Each of them is realized, but realized in such a way that no one likes it.

          There was a popular youth book by R. Bach, "Illusions." There God told a man simply - you will get what you want, just want it for real. And the man wanted it. For example, money. He gets his hands on a wad of banknotes from a joke bank. A car - he finds a car with pedals, etc. In our time, every class or social interest has received its wad and its car. The rich - fictitious wealth, the population - a car with pedals, communists - migrants, nationalists - goyda, monarchists - such a monarch as there is, liberals - a saddlebag in the West, and Western liberals too, religious people - an administrative apparatus instead of holiness, etc.

          And you say, side, trench. No way. Our time is unique in that today it is possible and necessary to analyze everything, to lay everything out, to look at the shards of plates everywhere and only in this way and after such analysis-reflection to take a potter's wheel and mold a new plate. For one does not pour new wine into old wineskins.

          Phew, you really got me, my dear father, talking about all sorts of philosophies laughing
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            20 November 2024 20: 36
            Even "studying potsherds", scientists not only dryly state facts and conduct abstract analysis, but also give a scientific assessment, ethical, cultural, social and political-economic. As it was said there, remember: "- To live in society and be free from society is impossible").
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              20 November 2024 20: 40
              That is why Soviet political economy collapsed and Western liberal political economy collapsed. Both got carried away with "ethical assessments".
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                20 November 2024 20: 42
                Mikhail, it didn't collapse, it was simply "rolled up", by whom? The same "subjects" that you don't want to write about)...
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                  20 November 2024 20: 48
                  There was no need to close down Soviet political economy; it curled up in its own little house. In the West, the process dragged on and it assumed the sleeping cat pose around the beginning of the 2000s.
                  As for the subjects, you are again mixing different substances in one bottle. The "beneficiaries" have never studied the philosophy of economics or even economics itself. They have not had and do not have time for this.
                  Usually it all looks something like this. You prepare an "analysis" and a "concept", once every six months they call you and yawning (for some reason this is common) say: "gentlemen, you have 30-40 minutes". It's like that everywhere. Instead of concepts they just ask for 2-3 specific solutions. That's all. laughing
                  The rest usually breaks through in fits and starts through a very complex synergy of a wide variety of groups.
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                    20 November 2024 20: 51
                    You have just described to me an ideal situation, which in the history of mankind has not always been the case. And if we recall world wars, social revolutions and revolutions in productive forces, then what you are writing about is a very insignificant fact in the general course of civilization).
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                      20 November 2024 20: 55
                      Do you know why the West so sincerely hates the Soviet experiment? Precisely because it was the first and only social experiment that was done from a cabinet model, to 1/2 of the land, and for historical time, and not like a meteor flying by. This utopia, however, would hardly have lasted longer than the 2000s with a good outcome. But even that was enough in the West.
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                        20 November 2024 20: 59
                        Mikhail, in my opinion, the "Soviet" experiment ended already in the 30s, when the pratokhoznomenklatura did not allow the urban educated petty-bourgeois strata of the population to participate in elections and began to carry out regional repressions, defending its emerging dominance). It's just that Stalin's team could still kick this "damned caste", and then there was only inertia (. Not interesting (...
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                        20 November 2024 21: 13
                        Well, Stalin did represent what is called "conceptual power". The West had it too. We buried it safely under Khrushchev, and under the late Brezhnev we tried to adopt the Western model ("Club of Rome"). For a while it was going somewhere.
                        Now conceptual power as a rudiment remains only in China. But how long they will hold it there - who knows. And the fact that Stalin got rid of the bourgeoisie, well, he got rid of them, but what are they doing with them now? What do they influence? Here in the USA the bourgeoisie is happy, they say "deep state" was destroyed. Joyfully.
                        But they simply leveled the playing field, so both demos and reps can cheat. A Hamburg score. Dems were getting ready to throw in, reps threw in a fake for them (what an irony of the idea). But the "noroth" is happy, because now they will crush the globalist hydra.
                        But this is not conceptual power. Nowadays, no one is interested in concepts. Everyone "there" understands a simple thing - traditional capitalism is over, and there are no sources for the transition to a new industrial order. This means that any future model will be distributive. And distribution has two paths.
                        The first is a utopia, like "to each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities." The second is a dystopia, like in the movies (they don't just make them for nothing) - a city of the sun for the "best" and a world of suffering for the worst, for the right thoughts - a bowl of plastic porridge and a life-giving vaccine, for stormy approval - 1,5 bowls and compote.

                        This is a convention, of course. But the principle is exactly this. So what path will those who do not read the concept choose for "noroth"? Utopia or dystopia. The degree of obstinacy of dystopia already depends on many circumstances, but it is inevitable.
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                        20 November 2024 23: 18
                        I'll tell you a historical anecdote and finish this dialogue.
                        The priest prays before going to bed: "Mother of God! Queen of Heaven! Strengthen and guide me!"
                        And the mother - the priest's wife, waiting for the "sweet" moment, answers him:
                        "- You ask him to strengthen you, and I will instruct you myself!)"

                        P.S. Well! For EVERYTHING!
                        Sharikov).
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                        20 November 2024 23: 43
                        What a prankster you are! laughing
                        P.S. Well! For EVERYTHING!
                        Sharikov).

                        Same to you fellow
                        Anyway, good night. hi
  6. +1
    20 November 2024 15: 31
    Tehran sees Russia as fragile and weak
    Apparently there are grounds..
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      20 November 2024 15: 36
      I already answered above, but I'll repeat it

      "Tehran Considers Russia Fragile and Weak": Iranian Expert "Explains" the Essence of the Alleged Disagreements Between Russia and the Islamic Republic


      The expert is Fardin Eftekhari, who commented for Middle East Eye

      Middle East Eye (MEE) — It is a UK-based media outlet., which primarily covers news related to the Middle East, North Africa and the wider Muslim world. It is funded by the Qatari government, although the organization itself denies this.

      Sources vary. This one is roughly like our analogue of the "Dozhd" TV channel, broadcasting from the "European garden". Our scientists also write a lot for the Carnegie Foundation, etc.
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    20 November 2024 21: 16
    With the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement with Iran...

    Here's the thing - not long ago, with the help of the US, the political leadership in Iran changed, and with it, the political preferences. And about a month ago, it seems, the Americans made a very tempting offer. So the Iranian leadership is now wondering where to row.
  8. +2
    21 November 2024 12: 20
    The interests of Russia and Persia will never coincide completely. It is not love-carrot, but friendship against common enemies. In these conditions, there is definitely no need to hurry anywhere, and even less to get nervous about all sorts of nonsense. Strategically, the parties should move towards building a North-South corridor with branches to the east and west, a trade and financial "cooperative", strengthening Iran's defense capability, since it is limited today, and strengthening the influence of the two countries in the region through the development of the idea "it is more profitable with us than against us". There is definitely no point in sleeping here, but we must move forward at a comfortable pace and in a comfortable volume of cooperation. It is clear that the Anglo-Saxons and the EU will put sticks in their way and try to "de-synchronize" this process - this is where mutual opposition to common enemies is necessary. The article is very good, a PLUS to the author!
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      27 November 2024 10: 15
      Quote: Glagol1
      The interests of Russia and Persia will never completely coincide.

      Yes. But the author, in some strange way, tries to protest against signing a general agreement, on the basis of which other, already specific ones, will be signed. He does not give any logical reasons, he simply demands to slow down the progress of rapprochement on the basis that Iran is not Russia and the benefits from various actions within the framework designated by the agreement are asymmetrical.
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    22 November 2024 18: 35
    Everything points to the fact that choosing a move with a positive outcome for one player leads to a negative outcome for the other player. Either Russia takes on the burden of escalation, and Iran eases it, or vice versa.

    So it turns out that, in an effort to get a penny win, both sides often endure slaps from Washington without response, losing "rubles" because of this.
    As the saying goes, hope for the best, but expect to cope with the worst, and on your own.
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    23 November 2024 08: 21
    Once again, the world behind the scenes wants to drive a wedge between its enemies. Why should the Persians fully trust their northern neighbor if the whole world knows about the corruption and betrayal in our elite? And now, in general, what if we make peace with Trump, and the Europeans will crawl on their knees and lick our heels. But this is Europe, it is always a priority for our elite, their whores, grannies and children are there. And Iran will again be left alone.
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    24 November 2024 20: 59
    As Omar Khayyam said: "A friend chosen on the principle of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is an unreliable comrade." When it comes to "comprehensive cooperation", one must think and weigh more than once. Or even more than a hundred times? No.
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    27 November 2024 10: 11
    So. A huge sheet of paper, in which nothing is proved or shown in relation to the catchy title. It simply lists commonplaces from various kinds of pointless articles. Summary (absolutely not following from the text) -
    But the number one task is not military-technical cooperation, but the neutralization of Russia’s efforts to reach the south.

    Fell. First of all - whose task?! Nothing was said at all. The global West? Then signing a common agreement with Iran is urgently needed by us and Iran. To discard the "leveling of efforts". Iran? Then it is openly hostile to us. But the author did not show a single sign that Iran is playing against us.
    A very strange article, it is not clear what it is about. It seems that the author is playing according to the American method - it does not matter what kind of cotton wool you chew in the text, what you are saying there. The task is to leave a mark in the brain of the average voter, in this case - "it is not worth signing an agreement with Iran." What exactly is the author playing at? I do not understand.
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    27 November 2024 12: 30
    In short and to the point: in solving ANY issues, with the East, especially military-political ones, you should never HURRY.... The East, by its nature, is very cunning, "it's its own man", a trader, by definition, "goes" where the "profit" is greater and it is "fatter".... Ideological issues, for it, are secondary and even tertiary, if the benefit is quick and big... Even religious issues are not critical for it, if the benefits prevail.....