The West has allowed long-range missiles to strike deep into Russian territory. What will this lead to?

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On Sunday, it became known that US President Joe Biden authorized strikes on the territory of “old” Russia (they were used on new regions earlier) with the help of American missiles ATACMS. According to The New York Times, this decision was due to the fact that Russia had deployed North Korean troops in the fighting in the Kursk region. A few hours after this news There was also information that France and Britain allegedly also lifted restrictions on strikes with their long-range missiles on Russian territory.

Can this decision be called unexpected? No, because it follows entirely from the logic of the political situation. In the material "Donald Trump Returns to the US Presidency. What Does This Mean for Russia?" the author has already noted that until the end of January, the Democrats, while their representative in the person of Joe Biden occupies the White House, will try to do everything to complicate or disrupt the possible negotiation process on Ukraine. In fact, this is exactly what we are seeing.



How permission to fire Western long-range missiles deep into Russian territory could affect a military conflict and what consequences it could lead to, we will discuss in this article.

Why did the Americans make this decision?


As has already been said above, the US decision that Ukraine can strike Russian territory with American long-range missiles was made because the American Democrats, who lost the elections and will soon lose control not only of the White House but also of the Senate and the House of Representatives for at least two years, decided to put as many spokes in the wheels of Donald Trump and the Republicans as possible before leaving.

Trump and his team cannot influence this decision in any way yet, except to complain on social networks, as Donald Trump Jr. (Trump’s son) did, for example.

"The military-industrial complex seems to want to start World War III before my father can make peace and save lives. Trillions in profits to make. People's lives? They don't care! Imbeciles!" - this is how Trump's son commented on Biden's decision.

In turn, the representative of the transition team of the elected US President Donald Trump, Director of Communications Steven Cheung, did not publicly evaluate the decision of the Biden team, emphasizing that Trump is the only one who intends to work to end the war and killings and who can achieve negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.

The decision of the Democratic Party, which is backed by left-liberal globalist forces, was immediately supported by France and England, which have long been under the control of globalists (Macron, in particular, is their protégé, this is no secret). There is no doubt that these global forces will oppose Trump and his initiatives in every possible way. However, as for France and Great Britain, the authorities of these countries have not yet officially confirmed the information disseminated by Le Figaro, and the newspaper itself has removed the material from its website.

In turn, Ukraine called this decision “part of the plan for Ukraine’s victory,” which Zelensky presented to Western partners, and promised to use missiles in the very near future.

However, how much will this decision affect the situation in the SVO zone?

How the Use of Long-Range Western Missiles Will Affect the Conflict


There are different opinions on how the use of Western long-range missiles to strike Russian territory could affect the military situation, from optimistic (it will have almost no effect on the situation, but now Zelensky will have no excuse that Ukraine is losing because it was not allowed to strike Russia with missiles) to moderately pessimistic (the use of missiles will affect the situation at the front and create significant problems for the Russian Armed Forces).

Of course, the use of Western long-range missiles to strike deep into Russian territory will not lead to a change in the situation in Ukraine's favor - missile strikes alone are not enough for this, and this will not affect the situation of a positional stalemate. However, this decision is capable of creating significant problems for the Russian Armed Forces.

It is worth remembering that the first use of the HIMARS MLRS resulted in the destruction of several large ammunition depots along the front line in the summer of 2022, which caused problems with a shortage of shells in the Russian Armed Forces in the fall, which were resolved only many months later by changing logistics. And the use of Storm Shadow missiles in Crimea resulted in the destruction of several Black Sea ships. fleet and as a consequence of its partial withdrawal from the Crimean waters, since it became impossible to base there.

For this reason, it would be rash to say that the use of Western high-precision missiles on the "old" territory of Russia will not affect the military situation at all. This decision is likely to complicate the situation, for example, in the Kursk region, where the Russian Armed Forces are still unsuccessfully trying to dislodge the enemy from their territory.

In addition, all border regions of Russia (Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk regions, and probably those bordering them - Voronezh, Oryol, etc.) may find themselves, for example, without electricity supply if the Ukrainian Armed Forces decide to strike the regions' energy facilities.

On the other hand, as noted above, the enemy will not be able to turn the situation in its favor in this way – Kiev does not have large stockpiles of high-precision Western missiles, so the strikes, although painful, will probably be very limited in scale. Probably, such pinpoint injections will be able to slow down or even temporarily halt the already not very fast “creeping offensive” of the Russian Armed Forces, but nothing more.

How will Russia respond?


In this light, the question arises: how can Russia respond to this decision of the West?

Some jingoistic patriots are already drawing up fantastic scenarios on social networks, following which Russia will use nuclear weapons weapon or destroy American military satellites (which would mean declaring war on the US). However, Russia is highly unlikely to do anything of the sort.

Most likely, the Russian Armed Forces will intensify strikes on Ukrainian energy facilities, and it is even possible that strikes will be launched on some government buildings in Kyiv (the author is not sure of this). In the author's opinion, Moscow will not take any more radical steps before Donald Trump's inauguration and his official proposals for resolving the military conflict in Ukraine.

Judging by the selection of the team, Donald Trump seriously counts on peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, and Moscow is ready for these talks. Officials have reported this more than once – for example, Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia Sergey Ryabkov said a week ago that the Russian Federation would listen to Trump’s proposals for settling the conflict in Ukraine.

"The latter is beyond any doubt. This is unconditional," Ryabkov said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin also recently spoke about his readiness for negotiations. For this reason, there are no serious grounds to assume that the decision of Joe Biden and the outgoing American administration will have a fundamental impact on Moscow's position.
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  1. 0
    18 November 2024 13: 30
    Definitely, this will not change anything. Our anti-aircraft gunners know how to shoot down these missiles, well, they will increase their surveillance of the sky. But there will be no answer, I completely agree with the author, there are a lot of Buts here.
    1. +19
      18 November 2024 13: 40
      Quote: Vadim S
      But there will be no answer

      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will express dissatisfaction and concern.
      1. +9
        18 November 2024 13: 50
        Well, why not? They'll draw more lines and the Investigative Committee will get excited. This combination, tested over the years, solves problems perfectly. Oh, and they'll ban hobbyhorsers and cosplayers. They're the cause of all the troubles.
        1. +4
          18 November 2024 13: 57
          Oh, and they'll ban hobbyhorsers and cosplayers. They're the ones causing all the troubles.
          Exactly, colleague. They are all foreign agents who will give targeting instructions to American missiles with Bandera inscriptions. I bet all the money confiscated by the West from the Russian Federation that not one will fly to the "habitat."
      2. +3
        18 November 2024 18: 52
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Vadim S
        But there will be no answer

        The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will express dissatisfaction and concern.

        Peskov will bleat something again.
      3. +1
        18 November 2024 19: 06
        already))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      4. 0
        19 November 2024 11: 43
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will express dissatisfaction and concern.

        Russia now has the ability to strike NATO targets with any weapon. hi
        1. +1
          19 November 2024 14: 02
          Quote: fif21
          Russia has an opportunity

          The opportunity may be there, but I doubt the determination...
      5. 0
        20 November 2024 00: 53
        Well, as always, everyone already knows this in advance.
    2. -7
      18 November 2024 13: 43
      Following the logic of the US, or rather the lack thereof, Russia has every right to strike US troops in Europe, because even if there are DPRK troops in the Kursk region, we invite whoever we want to Russia, then as soon as American missiles land on the heads of DPRK servicemen, Kim has every right to strike US bases in South Korea and Japan... well, the cherry on the cake is that Houthi scientists will invent effective anti-ship missiles, and Hezbollah hypersonic ones... something like that, and what do you say to Doni????, and you wanted to get it and sign for it in 24 hours.
      1. -3
        18 November 2024 13: 46
        Quote from Silver99
        and Doni ????, and you wanted to receive and sign in 24 hours.

        this is EXACTLY what the "democrats" are trying to achieve, to make it harder to "lower the temperature after what..." ((

        Don may expect that on the contrary, this will give him more room for bargaining and maneuvering, but we'll see... (
        1. +5
          18 November 2024 13: 49
          Your expectations of Trump are too high, in the US it is not the president who rules, but the military-industrial complex!!! Anyone who disagrees moves to be Kennedy Sr.'s neighbor.
    3. 0
      18 November 2024 14: 57
      If Trump wants, he can use unofficial channels to threaten Zelensky with the Maidan, but he will carry out Biden’s permission.
    4. 0
      18 November 2024 16: 21
      It will change. We'll have to go as far west as possible.
    5. 0
      19 November 2024 19: 23
      It has already changed. The headline from Zen is "Six countries accused Russia of hybrid attacks." An escalation is beginning with an attempt to drag Europe into a direct war with us. What is called the deep state is trying to get ahead of the instability of its structure, which Trump can bring. How far this will go is unclear for now, but these guys seem to have nowhere to retreat...
  2. +12
    18 November 2024 13: 31
    Absolutely nothing. Lots of talk - no action, have borne fruit.
    The West has been constantly raising the stakes, Russia has been constantly supporting them, without having any strong cards in its hands. And now the time has come to reveal itself.
    1. +5
      18 November 2024 13: 35
      There was something to open up with. Even multi-move moves won't help here.
      1. +1
        18 November 2024 13: 49
        Open up You can use a regular blade too, if you want to.
    2. -10
      18 November 2024 13: 39
      Quote: Gankutsu_
      without having strong cards in hand

      Well, how about it? And the "warblochers"? And the schizopatriots? And the commentators of this site, finally? ))
      they'll write "anti-crisis for a case on a narrative", and they'll hit you with millions of likes and slashes! )
      and they will also kill in a jump "the capitalists who are taking away their surplus sausage" )
      1. +5
        18 November 2024 14: 03
        Well, how about it? And the "warblochers"? And the schizopatriots? And the commentators of this site, finally? ))

        Are commentators a separate subspecies in your classification?
        What kind of people are you? At the very least, you are already a commentator on VO.))
    3. +3
      18 November 2024 13: 57
      Russia has such a strong card as refusal to transit gas through the territory of Ukraine. Because gas supply to the eastern and central regions is possible only due to pressure from Russia. And reverse from Europe is possible only in the western regions, tied to underground gas storage facilities. If the last Ukrainian hydroelectric and thermal power plants are finished off, then an energy collapse on 3/4 of the territory of Ukraine is guaranteed.
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      2. BAI
        +6
        18 November 2024 16: 17
        Russia has such a strong card as refusing to transit gas through the territory of Ukraine.

        There is none. Transit will be terminated next year at the request of Ukraine
        1. +1
          18 November 2024 16: 21
          Quote: BAI
          There is none. Transit will be terminated next year at the request of Ukraine

          Russian gas. But they are looking for options for transit of "Azerbaijani" gas. Or "Hungarian" gas purchased from Russia, from Russian territory. bully
    4. +10
      18 November 2024 13: 59
      The question arises: how can Russia respond to this decision of the West?

      Big deal! There is no way it can answer that. Why? Firstly, because the Russian public from top to bottom, judging by the article, this concerns the author as well, has been swayed by the idea that when Trump comes, happiness will come in the form of peace negotiations. Therefore, no sudden moves. Something similar happened before Trump's first coming, when our property in the US was taken away, and Putin, in retaliation, invited the children of employees to a Christmas party in the Kremlin.
    5. +5
      18 November 2024 14: 51
      Wait... I may have missed something, but it seems like we are gradually raising the temperature, because the "old" methods stop working as something new is supplied... the beginning of the SVO - supplies of lethal weapons, the use of geraniums and strikes on the energy system - supplies of air defense and training of pilots, mobilization - supplies of heavy equipment, Korean shells and missiles - supplies of long-range missiles, an offensive in the Kharkov region - permission to strike at border regions, Korean soldiers and equipment - strikes across the entire territory of Russia. And please note - no one has overwhelmed the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons and equipment, although such a possibility exists. The Europeans and Americans hope that our economy will run out of steam earlier and we will drive ourselves into a corner, which is actually what is happening, apparently.
  3. -5
    18 November 2024 13: 32
    On Sunday, it became known that US President Joe Biden authorized strikes on the territory of “old” Russia (they were used on new regions earlier) using American ATACMS missiles.

    Old Man Can doesn't give a damn, he's going to die, but why drag the whole world with him over the Edge? So that it won't be boring?
    But your relatives will also burn in the nuclear flame!
    And everything that bidon tried to do for the family will be in vain. That is, bidon's whole life was aimed at destroying the whole world and his family?
    It turns out that Biden and his assistants, who pushed the world to Armageddon, were a mistake of nature? what
    How does it feel to know that with your decisions you are destroying EVERYTHING that was dear to you? fool
    1. -5
      18 November 2024 13: 41
      pshh... Alexey, let's cool down, pour cold water over ourselves, take Novo-Passit (TM) ))
      no one is planning to start any "third nuclear war" at all ))
      Biden AFTER a conversation with Trump (by the way, Biden has started to look suspiciously adequate lately, hasn't he? ))), takes a step that gives Trump space for negotiations "I'll cancel the permit, but you should also move over in your ambitions"...
      that's all, actually... no "everything that's expensive", no "glazing of world capitals" ))
    2. 0
      18 November 2024 23: 18
      Quote: K-50
      But your relatives will also burn in the nuclear flame!

      Well, Hunter doesn't care, he's facing prison time.
  4. +1
    18 November 2024 13: 39
    In the autumn, the Russian Armed Forces began to experience problems with a shortage of ammunition, which were resolved only many months later by changing logistics.

    Interesting statement. Is increased production a secondary factor?
  5. -5
    18 November 2024 13: 43
    Judging by the selection of the team, Donald Trump is seriously counting on


    um... as if on command, Don is most likely planning to clash to the death with the "deep bureaucracy"... because he has rather recruited "oprichniks", each of whom has personal scores to settle and conflicts with federal structures)

    the Ukrainian theme is important there symbolically "the boy promised - the boy will do", but... well, it won't be vitally important for the trump card in his first year)
  6. +7
    18 November 2024 13: 52
    The third year of the war and we still haven’t learned how to stop the threats.
    1. +9
      18 November 2024 14: 16
      And if we take into account the 30-odd years, have we learned anything? Maybe how to draw red lines.
  7. +4
    18 November 2024 13: 55
    Another red line...
  8. +5
    18 November 2024 13: 58
    The West has allowed long-range missiles to strike deep into Russian territory. What will this lead to?
    Mmmmm... that's a difficult question... To the point that the outskirts will start firing long-range missiles deep into Russian territory? Did I guess right? No?
  9. +1
    18 November 2024 14: 01
    Everything is as predicted by sane experts. Trump will make his move with Peace Talks, where unacceptable demands for the Russian Federation will be presented. Russia will refuse, Trump will say - I tried, he will save face and the war will continue.
  10. 0
    18 November 2024 14: 11
    in the Kursk region, where the Russian Armed Forces are still unsuccessfully trying to drive the enemy out of their territory.
    In the Kursk region, as Staver writes, the RF Armed Forces have been grinding up the elite of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for months now, and once they do, the front will probably collapse. This is just by the way. And about the use of missiles deep into Russia. How deep will they fly. Again, how many of these missiles have they delivered? And they don't cost as much as a glass of sunflower seeds, but more expensive. And how will they use them - en masse or against individual targets. Will there be a result? And based on the results, we will see the response. These statements about permission to use missiles are another pressure.
  11. -5
    18 November 2024 14: 46
    Are you calling for betrayal and defeatism, Mr. Biryukov?
  12. +6
    18 November 2024 14: 54
    I remember the video where the cluster warhead of the ATACMS missile opened up over the beach of Sevastopol. The fragmentation striking elements evenly covered part of the beach and water, along with people, before our eyes. Then they detonated.
    Some people managed to cover their children and loved ones with themselves. It was an American missile over Russian territory, prepared and aimed by Americans.
    I don’t know what needs to be done to our people so that their conscience awakens and they become outraged by what the government is doing to them.
    After all, it was she who put the country in this position and continues to lead it and the people to destruction in a war with NATO and Japan that has already been prepared for this.
    Some call this the softness of power. This is not so.
    The lack of resistance from our US/UK government allowed them to prepare a war to destroy us. The government had enough time to see the perniciousness of its approach. Since it does not change it, it is already treason.
    The authorities still do not oppose the enemy in any way, and this is not by chance.
    After 10 years of Yeltsin, when the country was given into the hands of the Americans, there was no national liberation revolution. Power was quietly transferred by them to the Successor.
    This means that the country remains subordinate to the Americans, who create in the media the illusion of its independence for the people. It is the people who represent the main danger to their plan to destroy Russia.
    I think it's high time we regret that the enemy managed to deprive us, as a people, of conscience. It is conscience that makes people, en masse, act to the detriment of their personal interests for the sake of a common cause, to pay their debt to the Motherland, to their loved ones. In essence, it turns a human herd of individualists into a society capable of setting and solving problems on the scale of a country, a nation.
    Save the country, change lives and defeat the enemy.
    The absence of conscience turns a people into a population that can easily be destroyed.
    Together with the country.
    1. -1
      18 November 2024 23: 21
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      and he was outraged by what the authorities were doing to him.

      So it was the government that used prohibited weapons against our people?
      1. +2
        18 November 2024 23: 30
        She put them at risk by not taking action against the author and Master of this war - the USA/Great Britain.
        After that, and in the same way, she framed 2000 residents of the Kursk region, tortured and killed by the thugs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and NATO.
        And he still sets up the whole country in the same way.
    2. +3
      19 November 2024 06: 07
      I don’t know what needs to be done to our people so that their conscience awakens and they become outraged by what the government is doing to them.
      - in fact, the people elected this government so that it would act in their interests. And when year after year it does not fulfill this duty - who should have a conscience, and does it even exist? Have you mixed something up?
      1. +3
        19 November 2024 06: 28
        Quote: Reklastik
        so that she would act in his interests.
        This was stated. How did it all begin?
        Our hearts require change
        Our eyes require change
        In our laughter, and in our tears, and in the pulsation of veins
        Change, we are waiting for change

        Acceleration, perestroika, glasnost... Then, democracy, renewal of the USSR (CIS). The people believed in it, but, in essence, we got a Moscow "Maidan". Both the Constitution and the results of the All-Union referendum for the preservation of the Soviet Union were trampled upon, a pro-Western state anti-constitutional coup took place.
        At first, no one said that we had capitalism, "democracy", the authorities were still afraid, "embarrassed" in front of the veterans who had gone through the war. Now, all this riffraff that had legalized itself, renegades, thieves and bandits, have become the de facto masters of the country, with their stolen treasures that are stored in the West. Our fat cats, the main agents of foreign influence, are bad boys, according to Arkady Gaidar, who got into the coveted bourgeoisie for a "jar of jam" and a "pack of cookies". They would have long ago surrendered the country to their overseas masters, but the great Soviet legacy, for which they are still afraid to end up on the pitchforks, interferes. This is the Soviet missile-nuclear shield. That is why capitalist Russia, which is still the only country in the world that can destroy the USA, is an enemy of the West. They are not traitors or lackeys, they are doing everything to bring things to a head, bleeding Russia dry, under fireworks and holidays.
        There is only one way out - the return of people's power and socialism, otherwise we will not win.
        1. 0
          19 November 2024 06: 31
          I didn't ask you about a way out of the situation. I asked - what does the conscience of the people have to do with it, when they only decide whether to vote for someone based on the promises of that someone? Political decisions inside and outside the country are not made by the people. So what conscience of the people are you writing about?
          1. +1
            19 November 2024 06: 41
            Quote: Reklastik
            So what kind of people's conscience are you writing about?
            Roman, about the "conscience of the people", this is not my comment, ask Alexey Davydov. I would not call it "conscience", a different concept, an understanding of what happened is needed. How can the people understand this? Many were born without the USSR, for some, the abundance of diluted beer and the availability of foreign cars are important, others were given a good military pension of a retired general or colonel. Finally, propaganda, in the USSR they only made "galoshes", and so on, the "damned communists" did not have the Internet and smartphones, LCD panels on the entire wall, and so on. The people will not change anything, unfortunately, only war will change everything. Oddly enough, the West does more good to Russia with its sanctions than the oligarchs, otherwise, they would have sold out only raw materials, now they need to somehow restore their production. Only the military can solve everything, if they still can.
            1. 0
              19 November 2024 11: 25
              I wouldn’t call it “conscience”, it’s a different concept, you need an understanding of what happened.

              Conscience is not about what you chose for it, what it should be worried about. It is about everything.
              For example - the fate of our children will inevitably fall into her field of vision, and with it the fate of the country. A people who are indifferent to the impending death of children together with the country - ALREADY have no conscience.
              Only war will change everything

              She will change. That's for sure. This war is designed to destroy us and if Russia doesn't force her Master to abandon her - she will fulfill her function.
              Only the military can decide everything, if they still can.

              The army is a reflection of society. You are trying to shift the blame so that someone else will solve the country's problems for you. So does everyone else.
              This is the absence of conscience. The problem is not solved for your children.
              1. +1
                19 November 2024 12: 38
                Quote: Alexey Davydov
                The army is a reflection of society.

                Maybe so, but do not forget about Caesar and Napoleon, they were also a mold of society, but also individuals who were able to cross their Rubicon. It is not about changing the clock, there is reality, and elections do not solve anything in it. Everyone should solve their own problems, yes, but the army's problem is solved by a general, not a soldier, the country's problem is solved by a president, not a law-abiding citizen. This is how a general organizes soldiers to solve the problem of the army, battle, war - and victory or defeat depends. If we have Kibalchish, we will all solve the problem with the bourgeoisie together, without this, banging pots in the kitchen, or a new "Maidan" for other people's interests.
                1. -1
                  19 November 2024 13: 02
                  So what will happen to the country and the people who do nothing to change the situation, but only wait for "Kibalichish"?
                  Why does he need this "Kibalichish" then?
                  If he himself is not ready to lift a finger to save himself, his children and his homeland.
                  1. +1
                    19 November 2024 14: 24
                    Are you suggesting that we take the Bastille and take everyone to the streets? What is your "conscience", literally - "Conscience is an internal moral feeling that makes a person evaluate his actions and thoughts from the point of view of good and evil. It is a kind of internal judge that tells him what is right and what is not." So, let's evaluate good and evil for a start, or should we suffer from pangs of conscience? I thought and compared, good and evil for a start.
                    Do you want to become "Kibalchish", our conscience, or do you also expect that everything will settle down on its own, with others knocking their fingers, at the very least?
                    The point is that you, as it turns out, have less constructiveness than even in anticipation of the appearance of Kibalchish and the mighty Red Army.
                    1. -1
                      19 November 2024 16: 04
                      The constructive thing is that conscience should make every person in the country worry and think about this, take on part of the common guilt and look for opportunities to correct the situation, and not fence yourself off from these problems with your: "What can I do?" This is all the constructive thing that can be done.
                      It has always been like this in Rus' - when the government led it into a dead end, the people came onto the scene and saved it from destruction.
                      Don't brush this off - it's true.
                      It is inconvenient for those who have already settled into the "hospice", but it is what it is.
                    2. -1
                      19 November 2024 16: 23
                      I alone cannot save Russia, it is beyond my powers, but if there are many of us, we will save it. That is absolutely certain.
            2. 0
              19 November 2024 11: 32
              Roman, about the "conscience of the people", is not my comment, ask Alexey Davydov about that.
              - Sorry for my inattention.
        2. -1
          20 November 2024 09: 03
          As for Tsoi's song

          Our hearts require change
          Our eyes require change
          In our laughter, and in our tears, and in the pulsation of veins
          Change, we are waiting for change


          then a few days before his death he wrote a completely different song, “Ataman”:

          Oh, be careful not to miss, chieftain,
          So that your hand doesn’t tremble accidentally,
          Yes, be careful not to load blanks,
          Don't think about the hangman's noose.

          Otherwise night will come, night
          And the fields and forests will leave us
          The heavens will stop singing for us
          And let us listen to the voices of the earth

          And then the day will come, the day,
          Everyone will say what happened, I don't remember
          And let's go under the shepherd's flute,
          A friendly herd to the slaughter.

          God endured and told us to endure...

          So be careful not to miss, chieftain,
          So that your hand doesn’t tremble accidentally,
          Yes, be careful not to load blanks,
          Don't think about the hangman's noose.


          Changes were really needed in the USSR, but instead they destroyed it, along with its best people.
      2. -1
        19 November 2024 11: 46
        In fact, the people elected this government to act in their interests. And when year after year it fails to fulfill this duty - who should have a conscience, and does it even exist? Have you mixed something up?

        I didn't mix anything up.
        If the government is leading the country, you and your children to destruction and its conscience does not awaken - this is your problem and you must solve it. If no one solves it.
        Not to solve it, and to meekly agree to the death of your children, this is your decision. It means the absence of conscience. In you and in everyone who does the same.
        1. 0
          19 November 2024 11: 49
          In my opinion, the conscience should awaken in the one who promised and did not do it, and not in the one who believed. The one who believed should have mistrust and indignation. And this is what many have. The demand for social justice, at a minimum, has not gone away. As well as for many other things.
          1. -1
            19 November 2024 11: 55
            When his beloved wife was being strangled in front of him, he stood next to her and persuaded her: be patient, maybe everything will be okay!

            The King from the movie "An Ordinary Miracle"
          2. 0
            19 November 2024 13: 52
            "...The demand for social justice, at the very least, has not gone away..." Let's see what this "request" will result in at the elections in 2030. If we live that long.
  13. +8
    18 November 2024 14: 55
    I'm already sick of the Kremlin's whining.
  14. +2
    18 November 2024 15: 19
    A very interesting target is the Channel Tunnel.
    Seriously, we just need to shoot down these missiles as efficiently as possible and destroy their launch sites.
  15. 0
    18 November 2024 15: 47
    Wait and see...
    ___________________________
  16. +3
    18 November 2024 16: 04
    90% and I think that nothing will happen. If there is still no political will, then where will it come from? They are already bombing Moscow, wishing it good morning, and Putin is still playing "Leopold the Cat".
  17. BAI
    0
    18 November 2024 16: 13
    Russia will use nuclear weapons or destroy American military satellites (which would mean declaring war on the US). However, Russia will most likely do nothing of the sort.

    Most likely, the Russian Armed Forces will intensify strikes on Ukrainian energy facilities, and it is even possible that strikes will be carried out on some

    Russia (or rather those who spoke about the consequences of such a decision on screen) will be afraid to strike the West, despite all its warnings. This is obvious.
    And the West doesn't care about objects on the territory of Ukraine. Even if the grass doesn't grow there.
    Therefore, we will wait until sooner or later the hohols destroy the nuclear power plant on Russian territory and the top brass of Russia will be faced with a choice: either respond to the West, or resign under the threat of a popular uprising.
    Well, we'll see then.
    1. -4
      18 November 2024 16: 28
      What West? The West is different. Russia doesn't give a damn about the European West. And it can strike either directly or through a proxy. As for the Americans, their sore spot is the Middle East. And the Onyxes and Iskanders will be more serious than the Atacamas. As for the elite, they realized that the West will judge them. Or simply finish them off. So they have no choice. Well, the Americans, by raising the stakes, are driving themselves into a corner, not Russia. After all, the number of trump cards is limited, and the consequences of them are not calculated. And ultimately, war will come to the American continent when uncontrolled weapons flow to Mexican drug lords. That's when the Americans will have to start their own mess. And Panama will go up in flames in the noise.
  18. -2
    18 November 2024 17: 08
    Trump needs to form an alliance with Russia and China, then Gayropa will go to hell))
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  20. +1
    18 November 2024 18: 52
    Absolutely nothing will change, we will continue to whine and fight for peace throughout the world. Who in the world cares about that, really?
  21. +2
    18 November 2024 19: 41
    One more "step" beyond the red line.
    Evaluation of reaction.
    Then more and more.
    How long will we watch and push back the red lines!!!
  22. +2
    18 November 2024 20: 09
    Nothing will change. Many of these missiles will be shot down, some will reach and destroy some of our planes. They won't reach the Kremlin, Rublyovka and Moscow City, and our government doesn't give a damn about the rest.
    And there will be no answer - at most they will destroy Ukraine's energy sector, that is, they will simply do what needed to be done in the first month of the war and thereby save the lives of hundreds or thousands of our soldiers.
  23. 0
    18 November 2024 20: 32
    How permission to fire Western long-range missiles deep into Russian territory could affect a military conflict and what consequences it could lead to, and let's discuss it
    Well, as has already been stated in many posts, you can do nothing. Or you can, for example, arrange Afghanistan in reverse. Fortunately, there is a place.
  24. +1
    18 November 2024 20: 38
    Hmmm... A classic good cop-bad cop play is being played out... Biden doesn't care, he can do anything in Trump's interests, and Trump will shrug his shoulders, saying "it wasn't me...", and his hangers-on will slam Biden's tough moves, hiding their grins under a mask of peacefulness.
  25. 0
    18 November 2024 21: 31
    And if the attacks fly to our territory, but only to our military facilities, will we respond adequately? Or only to certain special facilities? Or will a game of chess begin?
    You are our knight with the queen, so we are your bishop with the rook.
    As if all people are pawns, both ours and theirs, it’s like collateral damage.
  26. +4
    18 November 2024 23: 52
    The use of long-range ammunition will make life even more difficult for our regions near the borders of Ukraine. This will be the most terrible thing. The bad thing is that we are very correct in our behavior with Western countries, we do not violate international law, although these same countries hire terrorists, ISIS members, to fight us. Why don't we treat them so meanly?
  27. +1
    19 November 2024 10: 54
    The West has allowed long-range missiles to strike deep into Russian territory. What will this lead to?
    To the mass purchase of red felt-tip pens in our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and other government agencies... winked
  28. +1
    19 November 2024 14: 02
    Well, in conclusion, remembering that "...we are all going to Heaven, and they will simply die..." lol
  29. 0
    19 November 2024 14: 25
    Senator Paul Calls Biden's ATACMS Decision Unconstitutional
    https://news-front.su/2024/11/19/senator-pol-nazval-reshenie-bajdena-po-atacms-antikonstituczionnym/
  30. 0
    19 November 2024 14: 35
    Biden and NATO have brought the world to a nuclear conflict with Russia
    https://news-front.su/2024/11/19/bajden-i-nato-podveli-mir-k-yadernomu-konfliktu-s-rossiej-zhurnalist-fazi/
  31. 0
    19 November 2024 14: 42
    Macron Supports US Decision to Allow Kyiv to Strike Russia
    https://news-front.su/2024/11/19/makron-podderzhal-reshenie-ssha-razreshit-kievu-nanosit-udary-po-rf-afp/
  32. -1
    19 November 2024 17: 26
    Isn't it clear that Russia will not respond in any way, as has happened before...
    1. 0
      19 November 2024 20: 14
      For 80 years, there has not been a single case where the entire range of conventional weapons produced by another country with nuclear weapons has flown through the territory of one of the nuclear powers. And even through proxies, which were even more common during the Cold War, because only through proxy wars did nuclear powers sort out their relations.
  33. 0
    19 November 2024 20: 04
    The missile strike on the Bryansk region does not count, that is ANOTHER THING. And in general, the Kremlin does not believe that the Bryansk region is part of the Russian Federation. Listen! What is that ringing? Is Putin's Decree really ringing bells to mark the missile strike? Oh well! It will make some noise and then stop, maybe it does not realize that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief did not have the courage, and his knees are weak. Probably because of the weather. As long as there is no nuclear war.
  34. 0
    21 November 2024 13: 21
    This will certainly not lead to anything good for the West, they want to play "Russian roulette", let them play, with their stupid, donkey-like stubbornness they are adding problems to themselves, and if the West were smarter, they might not exist.